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petey
06-29-2006, 11:13 AM
Hi Guys,

I'm currently studying design at uni in Australia and I've always wanted to get into drawing, however have never done any formal training. I thought by taking part in this forum it would be a great opportunity to really improve my drawing skills.

At the moment I'm still very much an amature when it comes to drawing. I have a lot of trouble get proportions right and when I copy something it always tends to look different. I'm hoping lots of practice will help, and if you guys have any tips on how to improve please let me know!

Thanks
Pete

petey
06-29-2006, 11:20 AM
Ok guys here's my first head sketch.

The drawing is of the lady in Caravaggio's "Judith Beheading Holofernes".

I realise I've messed up the proportions and a few other things but comments would still be appreciated.

http://opax.swin.edu.au/~5409020/drawing/headsketch_01.jpg

http://opax.swin.edu.au/%7E5409020/drawing/headsketch01.jpg

Rebeccak
06-29-2006, 04:54 PM
petey,

Welcome aboard! :) Thanks for letting us know a bit about yourself, that's always useful, and interesting. :)

A big thing to watch in the drawing of the head is the relative size of the back of the head ~ this is something that people always forget, the main mass of the skull. :) Hair and shadow can be particularly deceptive (especially in paintings) and so it's necessary to know a bit about what to expect about the way a head looks in various degrees of rotation. There's only one way to know what to expect, and that's to practice ~ so you're in the right place! :)

I'll post a review of your piece in a bit. I would say that she needs more mass to the back of her head, and that the back of the neck would start from behind the ear. Shadow can be deceptive, but try drawing things first as just an outline, before shading. :)

Looking forward to following your progress! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
06-29-2006, 07:14 PM
petey,

I hope you don't mind, I've done a review of your first drawing, which I hope is useful: :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/00_Anatomy%20Lesson%20Series/petey_Rev-01.gif

I think you're doing a great job with the shading, but the main thing when analyzing a portrait is looking for the angle of the major features of the face ~ eyes, nose, lips, ears, chin. These axes will all be parallel to one another. The ear will align with the brow and the base of the nose.

Hope this helps! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

petey
06-30-2006, 04:44 AM
Thanks Rebeccak that does help a lot, it amazes me the amount of posts you go through. I really appreciate it.

I'm starting to get a little better at judging the proportions and planning out my drawing in a simple wireframe. Is there a list of all the major lines/sections? what i mean by this is like the line that runs down the center of the face, and the line that runs across the eye's.

Ok here's my next head sketch.

Are there any stratergies for drawing complex patterns like the the hair/sideburns?
Thanks

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http://opax.swin.edu.au/~5409020/drawing/headsketch_02.jpg

petey
07-01-2006, 08:23 AM
Here's another one.

I found this one really hard, this was my second attempt at it and it's still off proportion!

http://opax.swin.edu.au/~5409020/drawing/headsketch_03.jpg

Rebeccak
07-01-2006, 08:57 PM
petey,

These are looking good! :) One thing that I think can help to nail down proportions is to block features in before detailing. Here is an example I posted to the Anatomy Thread of Miezis:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/00_Anatomy%20Lesson%20Series/Miezis_Rev-02.gif

Try to see the biggest shapes you can, and lightly draw their outline first. Don't think of the object you are drawing, just look at major shapes and draw those first. What you want to do is to analyze a drawing, instead of render a drawing. The major axes you want to look for are the axes of the eyes, nose, lips, chin, and ears. These lines should all be parallel, no matter what the perspective.

Hope this helps! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

petey
07-03-2006, 03:52 AM
Thanks for the tips Rebecca. I try to create a blocky type plan to begin with however I find I still get shapes wrong, I guess I just need more practice. Maybe I should be doing some other exercises aswell to strengthen my ability to read and draw shapes?

Anyways here's my latest head sketch.

http://opax.swin.edu.au/~5409020/drawing/headsketch_04.jpg

Rebeccak
07-03-2006, 04:52 PM
petey,

Yep, it is mostly practice that will lead to improvement. The only way to get shapes perfectly right is to either use a grid or the Barque method, something I'm not trained in (and frankly, it's too anal for me, but I've seen lovely results). :)

But I frankly think it's better to eyeball, make mistakes, and gradually improve over time. Fortunately or unfortunately, there's no substitute for pure hard work and practice.

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

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