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wickedsamara
08-18-2008, 06:45 AM
where do u exactly go on weekends??? :p Can maybe borrow ur ship for some of world tour speed trips... looks very interesting to mee :love:

htodi
08-22-2008, 07:20 PM
so beautiful concept...peacefully color. love this.:scream:

NR43
08-23-2008, 06:07 PM
Bart Thanks for the crit I added a lil more shadow to the wing.
retardedmonkey Working on more vehicles... hopefully I can post up soon...
staticpen Thanks! Glad you like it!
Magda heh perhaps it would be wiser to trust your car instead
Anand I need more time to draw ARGH!
namnocilis it's huge inside and it's even got an energy generator so no need to get fuel or anything
wickedsamara heh ok
htodi thank you!

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Well I have been sick again this week, still not well actually. I wonder why I'm having so many health problems this year. The healthier I live, the sicker I get... bah

I haven't done a lot this week so here are some doodles and sketches I did at the office...
I've a lot less work to do lately so instead of browsing the internet I decided to do more sketching whenever I can (I hope my bosses don't read this)

Here's a selection
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0193_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0194_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0195_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0196_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0197_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0198_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0199_resize.JPG

staticpen
08-23-2008, 07:01 PM
Wow dude, nice work with those perspective sketches! I'd love to see you work those skills into a painting :D

NR43
08-24-2008, 07:26 PM
Thanks Jason.
Yep, that's the plan...eventually... trying to get used to it and hoping to develop a good feel for perspective...

Worked a bit more on this SP
[image removed - apologies]

And another vehicle... I was sketching thumbs all week on the topic "vehicle with one wheel and one chair" but wasn't very successful coming up with a good design.
Picked the one I liked the most and will hopefully try to develop it in a painting

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0200_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0201_resize.JPG

daWinky
08-25-2008, 09:55 AM
Hey Johan!

Definitely I have to check your sketchbook more regularly, I always get lost here when I try to catch up with your progress:scream: . Inspiring to see your experiments with all the different medias and subjects, some results are really amazing and I especially love your ballpen studies:thumbsup: . And now you even make exiting concept vehicles, I'm impressed.

Soon back to see more stuff!

Have a nice week!

-sabrina

staticpen
08-25-2008, 06:48 PM
Really great post, dude. That Joker piece is really turning out wonderfully. The values look spot on - when you squint you can barely tell it's a painting. :D

Frejasphere
08-30-2008, 02:49 AM
Hi Johan :)

Great to see all your updates - I have to agree with Sabrina; getting lost here :D
especially as I've been absent for a while, soooo much has happened here!

I really like your weekend blip vehicle! :) what a cool way to get around + it has a
really friendly 'creaturesque' feel about it!

Joker is looking awesome :)

cheers and take care!
a. :)

SpiritDreamer
08-30-2008, 11:49 AM
HEY ..Johan..FANTASTIC job so far on that JOKER...:applause: :thumbsup: :arteest:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

ceruleanvii
08-31-2008, 03:03 PM
great job on the Joker, Johan, I am really loving this one... I might play down the detail on the gums above the upper teeth because I think they're distracting a bit from the teeth themselves, which are wonderfully done...

The eyes and values are fantastic!

NR43
08-31-2008, 07:45 PM
Hey Sabrina, really great to see you at the forum and in my humble thread again :)
Thanks for the words of praise! Too much learning to do still though...

staticpen Thanks man, not half as awesome as the stuff in your sb!

Hi Annette! Summertime always allows me to spend more time trying other things than the usual academic work... will try to keep the experimenting up even now that school is starting again tomorrow (can't wait for that though)

Hey Glenn. Thank you. I'm learning heaps with this one and I've decided to take my time with it... experiment and try things out... delete if the outcome is crappy and start all over again... the beauty about working digitally, that is! Thanks for dropping a note here!

Hi Del, thanks for the crit on the gums... I've lowered the value of the gums for now... not very sure what to do with them actually but will see soon when I start coloring...

Here's an update... worked a lot on the hair... much trial and error stuff... I wanted it messy but not too distracting, not sure about it at all really... think I might end up adding more highlights as I progress on the piece... I'm expecting a lot of corrections to be made to the values when at the coloring phase... oh well, will see...


My pc almost cracked up on me yesterday when I tried to update my WinXP to SP3. Fortunately I was able to fix it (took me less time than expected actually).
It has to hold until next summer though... can't afford a new machine now.

School again tomorrow... can't wait!!

staticpen
09-01-2008, 04:16 PM
Hair looks really great, man. You've done a sweet job of making it look like it's curling over itself. Looks really legit. :)

Got any good art classes this semester?

NR43
09-02-2008, 10:07 AM
Thanks Jason.

Got any good art classes this semester?

Well, from now on it will be life drawing from 18h30 until 22hr every Monday and Tuesday until June next year :)
And I can tell ya it is bloody well needed! Last night was a disaster :eek:

I will see if I can arrange to go on Wednesday and/or Thursday if I can squeeze it in...but I won't be able to do this too often or my girlfriend will put the frying pan on my head in a rather unpleasant way ^^

no images, sorry (at work)

Thanks for the visit and the support!

Memorist
09-05-2008, 10:59 AM
Hi there Johan

Wow your stuff is really good. Been paging through some of your work.
I agree with what was said about the hair great job. :thumbsup: (http://forums.cgsociety.org/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#)

I think the way you have worked on the lighting on the face ( the light and dark )
very nicely done. You using reference for that?

:lightbulb (http://forums.cgsociety.org/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#)
I was wondering aswell, would you not see alittle of the neck?

NR43
09-06-2008, 12:57 PM
So it looks like I have lost all sense for proportion, form and light... well perhaps that's a bit exaggerated, but after week 1 I had this fealing I haven't made improvement for the last 6 months or so and I have to be careful not to even go backwards...

Note to self: hang in there buddy! Loads of life drawing sessions ahead so something is bound to happen *scratches hair with a ridiculous smile*

All my A3 sized drawings are not actually A3. I always have the employee at the art store cut off 3cm off the bottom to have a less horrible ratio.

black conté on A3 (quick)
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3704_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3705_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3706_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3707_resize.JPG

pencil on A3 (quick)
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3708_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3709_resize.JPG

Blue Ballpen on A3 (quick)
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3710_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3711_resize.JPG

NR43
09-06-2008, 01:00 PM
Blue Ballpen on A3 (quick)
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3712_resize.JPG

Conté, "bistre" on A1 (40min)
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3713_resize.JPG

Conté, "bistre" and "sanguine" on A2 (40min)
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3714_resize.JPG

NR43
09-06-2008, 01:08 PM
I have been searching to find all the info about Leonardo Da Vinci and his work as an engineer. I am particularly interested in his vehicles and machines. However, I have not been very successful in my search so far. So if anyone know a book that describes his flying machines, war machines etc in detail, preferrably a large sized book, please post.

Most books about da Vinci focus on his paintings and anatomy studies.
PLEASE? A title of a book or an author could get me going.
This is extremely important to me and any help is highly appreciated!

On a side note, it seems one of my DSF entries from a few weeks back was selected as sketch of the day. Pretty cool! but it's probably because there weren't too many entries heh.
It's this one:

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/DSF/DSF_20_resize.jpg

It was done for
CgTalk Daily Sketch 60mn "The Client" (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=130&t=658570)

NR43
09-06-2008, 02:20 PM
Here's another land/seascape study from a while back.
I started of with the intention of working impressionistic.. LMAO... huge failure!! so I'm abandoning this one
Will work on impressionistic painting though...

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketches_digital/landscape_02_012_resize.jpg

Memorist Thanks! The Self Portrait as Joker is not finished yet ;)
I use a mirror and this one picture from the Dark Knight (http://mattthomas.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/ledger.jpg)as a reference.

razz
09-06-2008, 02:31 PM
And I was just going to ask you when will we be able to see your life drawings and here they are. Some more Hogarth'ish approach might help you with those. By that I mean giving some crisper edges where the form turns. Sort of like in Hogarth's sketches where he goes with drawings all those boxy shapes. Just a suggestion.
Congrats on the sketch of the day!

staticpen
09-06-2008, 05:18 PM
Man, Johan, what a big batch of new material. :D
I noticed your DSF award recently as I was browsing some recent category winners. Grats. :)
I can't say I know of anything specifically dedicated to Da Vinci's engineering, but there's a huge book called Leonardo's Notebooks that covers most everything Leonardo ever wrote, including some of his ideas for machines.

Great life drawings, mate! It'll be interesting to see what your pages look like at the end of the class when compared to these first poses. Who is your instructor, and do they have a website or anything we could look at?

SpiritDreamer
09-06-2008, 05:38 PM
HEY ...Johan..:wavey: :)

LEONARDO'S NOTEBOOKS
Leonardo da Vinci
Edited by H. Anna Suh

Biggest book in my personal home library, and one of the best...no paintings...just tons of his drawings... lots of machines, and inventions..architecture perspective drawings.....ect. ect. ect...all enlarged, so you can really see all the details clearly....:)

I think it's the book that you are looking for, and is the one that you will benifit the most from in your current studies..:)

I like your latest studies...and also agree with RAZZ....Use the side of the conte crayon for your strokes...gives you that crisp edge with a soft blend extending away from it..which creates the tonal planes and values...Burne Hogarth never used the tip/point of the crayon, until the very end, and then only to create an accent line to clarify an edge.

Keep up the great work, and great progress Johan,..ALWAYS a pleasure seeing both..:thumbsup::)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

NR43
09-07-2008, 02:20 PM
razz
Thanks for the tip, I actually know this (Glenn has mentioned it numerous times already :blush: ) but it's hard to achieve... technically... well only one thing to do... practice hard.

Jason
Since you and Glenn advise me the same book, it's the one I will get. Not just yet, because I just paid the bill for 3 Jason Chan videos (http://dvd.massiveblack.com/downloads.html#chan3), Bold Visions from Gary Tonge and Mechanika from Douh Chiang. I'm getting aweful looks in my direction from my gf each time the VISA bill arrives WOOPS! I tell ya, if I were rich, I would buy hundreds of books... wouldn't know which one to read first heh.

Glenn
Thanks for the info on that book. will buy it, hopefully next month.
I will work on my conté technique... as you know this is only learned through sheer practice... please bear with me :)

In the mean time I'm trying not to neglect my digital painting practice now that school has started again.

Here are some quick studies from bird images found at this awesome stock website (http://www.imageafter.com/index.php) with copyright free images.

Birds are one of my favourite kind of animals... not only can they fly, but the way they are constructed by mother nature in order to achieve this.... it's just amazing!!

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketches_digital/eyes-birds-01_001_resize.jpg

NR43
09-07-2008, 08:06 PM
Well, just uploaded my Joker Self Portrait in my portfolio.
It's not perfect (far from) but it's time to move on...

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This started as a quick sketch for the Daily Sketch Forum, but things got outta hand :p
Used a mirror and this one picture I found on internet of the Joker sitting in jail. Practicing facial expressions, hair and light with this one. It took me quite some time to finish it so my cheeck muscles are a bit stiff by now lol

Painted in Painter IX.5, added some noise in GIMP.
I may color it at some point... we'll see...

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/paintings/portraits/DSF_09_thejoker_values_final_resize.jpg

staticpen
09-07-2008, 11:32 PM
Great job, man. Seeing it nice and big like this is really letting the detail shine, and I have to say, it looks like the best thing you've posted yet. Way to tackle new things and come out with a winner! :thumbsup:

Mu
09-08-2008, 02:29 PM
Hey Johan

this last piece made me browse your portfolio again and I needed to tell you that your edge control and understanding of values is really awesome and the works of art in there are quite an impressive collection.

Keep that drive of yours

greetings
Mu

sycen
09-09-2008, 05:31 AM
Awesome! :applause:
Great rendering and brillian idea too.

daWinky
09-09-2008, 06:47 AM
Ah, an evil self portrait! The idea is funny and I like the result, very evil indeed:applause: !

I would love to see a colored version...very nice hairstyle by the way!:D

Have a great day!


-sabrina

-voraz-
09-10-2008, 08:36 AM
Hi Johan, hadn't been here in a while.
You have here some interesting new stuff.
The seagull study is very nice. And so are the life study, I especially like the ones in blue pen.
The Joker self-portrait is very weel done too, I'm not sure about this but I think a little more light in the neck could improve it a litle because right now it somewhat seems that the face is floating...
keep it up.
cheers

alenah
09-12-2008, 11:22 AM
hi Johan,
finally I got here again - still did not have time to read all those posts here (I am kind of in a hurry all the time, lately) - but I keep browsing for all your new images at least :)
nice work - I like following the progress;
and - as I understand from random posts I read - you attend life drawing sessions regularly - that must be great! (I envy a bit, I would love attending life drawing sessions again so much :) )
.. you have a lot of interesting work/progress here, always enjoy your thread -
looking forward to seing more (and to finding some time to finally read all the posts here:) )
a.

NR43
09-17-2008, 04:52 PM
Jason
Glad you like it. I keep getting remarks that the neck isn't visible... although it's perfectly visible on my hardware calibrated screen *scratches chin*

Hey Murat
Really nice of you to pop in here and share your thoughts... especially when they are so praising! I'll be keeping an eye on your environmental studies..

sycen
Thank you!

Sabrina
So you like my "right out of the shower hairstyle" huh?
I have really thick hair in fact so when it dries up it goes al directions. It would cost me too much on hairgel to get this hairstyle all day long lol

-voraz-
Thanks for dropping by man! really appreciated!
Perhaps I will revisit that joker sp at some point... thanks for your input!

alena
yes, a lot of life drawing sessions ahead, but believe me I need them so hard!
I've had 5 sessions since the beginning of the month and to be honest I have been really struggling hard... last night was the first session I was sort of satisfied with, so hopefully the spirit goes up soon!

Thanks all for the support, it's very well appreciated. And please dó post your critique without fear of being to harsh. I can take quite a bit and I very well realize I still have loads and loads to learn.

More life drawing:
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3734_resize_rotation.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3733_resize_rotation.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3732_resize_rotation.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3731_resize_rotation.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3730_resize_rotation.JPG

NR43
09-17-2008, 04:55 PM
more sketches from life:

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3729_resize_rotation.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3728_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3727_resize_rotation.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3726_resize_rotation.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3725_resize_rotation.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3724_resize_rotation.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3723_resize_rotation.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3722_resize_rotation.JPG

NR43
09-17-2008, 04:56 PM
more life drawings
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3721_resize_rotation.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3720_resize_rotation.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3719_resize_rotation.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3718_resize_rotation.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3717_resize_rotation.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3716_resize_rotation.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3715_resize.JPG

Mu
09-17-2008, 06:53 PM
the fifth of today's last batch stands out as quite beuatiful to me.

The second and the third one of the first life drawing post are quite out of proportion, aren't they? Must be hard to get these things right in a limited timeframe.

P.S.: sixth and seventh of the last batch also rock... mind numbering these? Easier to refer to them then.

razz
09-17-2008, 08:29 PM
Yes, YES!! Life drawing! I like your control of the line. You don't do any scribbly, unnecessary lines, but go with a confident line describing the form, great to see. I want to point to the website of Scott Burdick (http://www.scottburdick.com/2004scott9.htm) (once again) to look at those amazing quick life drawings. I think you should try different approaches. It's a good thing to know several ways to approach a drawing, this way you're able to adjust to the situation and use what fits it (lighting, pose, you name it) the best.
Well I think you knew that already :)
What is it that you're mainly trying to improve with these life drawings? Any one particular area? Linework, shading,..?

Heozart
09-18-2008, 12:22 AM
Hey Johan,

I think your drawings are progressively looking more confident. I say not worry about too much, relax and have fun! Great shading on the legs on the last ones. They remind me of your ballpoint pen drawings from a while ago which I also liked very much. Keep it up,

Wes

Memorist
09-18-2008, 08:10 AM
Hi Johan

Nice work, i must say i also like that fact the your lines are very clean.
Very focused and smooth.
Your shading is pretty impressive i like how you are able to show the everything
on the upper chest area "in the red one". Nice!

anandpg
09-18-2008, 09:53 AM
Wow! I like the last few... you're definitely getting a nice sense of depth in your shading! :thumbsup:

ceruleanvii
09-19-2008, 05:59 PM
Your joker turned out awesome! :)

Nice life drawings, I see lots of progression from last year! I think you may be making the heads a bit small in some of them... which can be an issue if you're using the head as a measurment to set your proportions... I love the shading and you've got a good grasp of the forms!

staticpen
09-20-2008, 12:07 AM
Yyyeeeeaaah, dude! Those are some great life drawings! Much improved, dude. Great control of line and accuracy of form. There's almost no sketch guessing going on. You pick the curve and execute. :D Very well done, sir. Can't wait to see more.

selphoo
09-21-2008, 10:25 AM
hey there;]

nice sketches in last spam- the higher parts of the body you have a master(when it comes to anatomy)..I think that you need to spend a little more time to draw LEGS (with the rest of the same goes for me :] ).
keep pushing dude! it's all good;)

cheers

NR43
09-21-2008, 05:30 PM
Mu
Thanks! Glad you like my crappy studies... Lots of proportion issues indeed... mind ya that the unshaded ones and some of the shaded ones are done in only a couple of mins max to get warmed up. I'm really looking forward to your reaction on the day I create something really good :)

razz
Thanks for the advise and the link.
For now, I am mainly thinking about form as I draw... just trying to think 3D when sketching and shading... and trying to get as much on paper as possible without losing too much accuracy/proportion.

Experimenting along indeed in approach but it takes a lot of time with this turtle to improve so bear with me...

Wes
Thanks. Yes, I shouldn't sit down in front of a model with any kind of expectations... lesson learned (I hope)

Memorist
Thank you... still sooo much to learn though!

Anand
Thanks man... I will try to make it even better :)

Hi Del
yeah I totally screw up proportions the first 20mins of each session... I'll try to block in a bit more accurate.

Jason
heh thanks... it doesn't go as well as you describe it, but yes I am trying to find a good rythm

selphoo
well spotted, anatomically, legs are defenitely my weakest point... and funny that you mention it now because... well just look at the bottom of this post...
Anyway, will work on it!

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Well I was physically so exhausted this week that I haven't drawn much at all. I tried finishing this book I was reading on Dali, but I gave up on it. Will pick it up again from the library later. So yesterday, in an attempt to get back on track, I bought 2 books: One on Van Gogh and -more importantly for me at this stage- a dutch translation of the book Glenn has advised me. It has instantly become one of the favourite books I have.
Everything I have learned about drawing in the last 3 years is in it and loads and loads more. I think EVERY artist should have this book.

It's called Leonardo Da Vinci - Notities. The english version can be found on Amazon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Leonardos-Notebooks-Leonardo-da-Vinci/dp/1579124577/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1222017460&sr=8-6). Mind ya though that it is 18GBP on Amazon but I bought it for 8Euro's (that's about 5 USD) in a store in town. So it might be wise to check your local bookstore first.

Anyway, had to get back into it after not having drawn for 4 days (argh I am such a slacker!), so here is a warmup quicky search for cloth wrinkles and some crappy leg anatomy refreshing (I know about the foot)...

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0202_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0203_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0204_resize.JPG

I can't go to school tomorrow evening because my gf has driving lessons and I have to babysit the kids...

staticpen
09-22-2008, 12:13 AM
Man, fabric is tough, no? It looks pretty good, though. Looks kind of like some old French fashion art. But I just don't really understand the folds she's got in her hand. I can't tell if she's holding a satchel or if it's part of the skirt. Was this from your head or reference?
The legs look great, though, Johan. :) Especially the second sheet.
And I can't believe you found Leo's Notebooks for 8 Euros. It costs like 30+ dollars in stores here in the states. =/

NR43
09-22-2008, 04:28 AM
She's holding a [distorted] shoe lol... guess I didn't draw it all that well...
It was a really quick sketch after a fashion image in one of my girlfriends magz (5 min maybe)
I've been wanting to do wrinkle pattern studies for a long time now (ever since I read Burne Hogarth's book on it) but just not getting to it... my "things to study" list is sooo immensely long OMG and I'm stuck here at the office again... the calculator is on the desk, waiting to have it's ugly buttons pressed by me... I feel this pain in my arm... it doesn't want to but my brain is forcing it towards the darn machine.... ARGH... a quick look at the clock tells me it's 06:26hr. Only 7 hours and 40 minutes to go. Then I can go home, do the normal things a family man like me loves to do... pick up the kids from school, help them with their homework, feed them and relax watching them play... :)

*snaps out of it* back to work, talk to ya later ;)

yarabe
09-22-2008, 07:31 AM
Hi there Johan, finally got the time to check your thread out. It's a great thread, like the sketches of the poses and love the bird! Keep it up! :thumbsup: .

alenah
09-22-2008, 12:55 PM
Hi Johan! I enjoy your life drawings so much! especially i like the soft charcoal ones ..
well - I noticed that some of your latest life drawing figures are pretty slim - are the models also like that? or - perhaps a little bit more volume on their arms and legs might be a good idea .. (?)

and your joker - wow! what a nicely detailed piece! the only crit I might have in this case is that I would suggest perhaps a bit "exposure" correction (the image seems a bit too dark to me, all those great details are kind of lost there, arent they? .. )

anyway, great job - and really nice work with a volume/shading in some of your life drawings!
I really enjoy following your school schedule/progress :)
a.

Heozart
09-24-2008, 05:32 AM
Hey Johan,

What do you mean crappy leg anatomy, they are great!

Congrats on getting the da Vinci book. I have a different one published by Taschen, but I think it is similar to yours. It has pictures of various drawings he did, figure/anatomy, landscape, perspective, mechanical design, etc., all very inspiring stuff.

Looking forward to seeing what you absorb from your new books. Keep it up!

NR43
09-24-2008, 01:34 PM
yarabe
Thanks, would like to bring more variation to it but drawing time is a bit limited

alena
I was waiting for someone to ask about the model being slim... She is what we call "vel over been" in dutch, which means "skin over bones"... in other words very skinny. She does have a bit of a tubby though.
The last post has some sketches of a "not so skinny" model (the one with the ponytail), but the first few weeks we only had this one, skinny model.

Wes
heh when I see some sketches from other people I always feel so small... I've been searching for a certain degree of sketching routine for quite a few months but I just don't draw enough. I guess that would only be possible when drawing 5, 6 hours a day, every day. (Damn I hate my office job, it's such a waste of time :banghead: )

So, last night, even though I am sick again (I lost count, this year has been an absolute hell for me, healthwise and the worst thing is the doctors can't find what's wrong with me)
I decided to go to school anyway.

Warmed up with charcoal quickies but they really aren't worth posting so here are some 40min studies in ballpen

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3740_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3741_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3742_resize.JPG

Would have needed a lot more time to be able to bring enough volume in there!
Oh well, twas fun...

staticpen
09-24-2008, 03:51 PM
Ouch, man. I hope your good days are great, and your bad days are always less painful than the one before.

The ballpoint pen studies are RAD, dude. Those legs really look incredible. I really enjoy the torso drawing, too. Especially the curve of her belly accentuating the slouch. You captured that ribcage curve so nicely. :) Only thing that gets me is the neck. There is a curved line above her left collar bone (right side of the page) that separates a shaded area from the white of her neck that makes me look at her neck like it's super thick.
But that's one little nitpick, man. Again, I really love what you've done with these drawings. Great lighting and form and everything, dude. :D :D

Mu
09-24-2008, 04:15 PM
I'm really looking forward to your reaction on the day I create something really good

I am actually looking forward to the day I will be doing anything half as good as your stuff (and you know it!)

The ballpen studies are beautiful. I love the shading on the thigh/leg and the gesture/energy in the last nude study is stunning! Stun-ning! Complete this! Or take it as the starting point for an elaborate painting!

Zephyri
09-24-2008, 07:38 PM
Hey Johan, thanks for the welcome back.. come for a browse round this thread after so long is a treat! Loving the ballpoint studies.. you're much braver than I am, still not got the guts to use ink yet. The knees on the leg studies look great and I love all the lumps and bumps on the feet, really gives them character. The longer sides of the body such as the arms and legs look a little too one strokish.. and I only pick up on that as I tend to do it myself, something I'm going to try and adjust with more life drawing. The cross hatching is lovely where it follows the form of the body (such as the thighs) but it's kind of inconsistent in whether it follows the forms or not, I think that would realy bring the figure to life for you.

TedNindo
09-24-2008, 11:36 PM
hey,

you have quite a long thread here. It's to bad that the older images are not visible anymore though.
I think you have nice life drawings. What I like especially are the legs you draw them niceley shaped. Looking very good.
Do you go to life drawing regularly. I'm looking for lifedrawing classes near me for month now.
No after all I've found one. Should be on friday and guess what: too few students so it will get cancelled.

Anyway, keep on your good work.

daWinky
09-26-2008, 08:59 AM
Hi Johan,

I agree with Wes, there's nothing crappy about your leg anatomy, looks fine for me:thumbsup: ...
You have again some nice results with your life drawings, especially where you took some time for shading!

Nice day for you!:)

-sabrina

sanpaiya
10-03-2008, 09:12 AM
hey johan ,. . real cool work . . esp liked the joker. . creepy :)

Aviva
10-05-2008, 08:57 AM
Heya Johan,


Your Joker Self Portrait is indeed very creepy! :) You have come a long way in the last year. Great work on the ballpoint pen studies – nice confident lines and cross hatch shading!

Sorry to hear you've been getting sick a lot this year. I know it's such a pain. My immune system's also been pathetic this year and I'm quite sure it was due to stress and lack of sleep while I was studying. I hope you feel better and work out the cause so you can avoid it! I'm a vitamin junky at the moment - I'll let you know if that works. ;)

jesu
10-10-2008, 03:28 PM
lot of studies here . i couldnt go through all ur sketchs till 50 pages all are impressive. i luv to see rest of works......

NR43
10-11-2008, 09:01 AM
Well... several weeks when I last updated... had a bit of a rough time, like every fall, but that's all passed now so getting back into it.

I was drawing way below my level lately so there is a lot of struggling and searching going on when I draw these days... it's on the better hand now though.

So here is a selection of school work from the past weeks:

artist pitt brush pens on 27cmx36cm
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3751_resize.JPG

ballpen on 27cmx36cm, ran out of time
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3752_resize.JPG

charcoal on 100cmx70cm
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3754_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3755_resize.jpg
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3757_resize.JPG

Not made a single drawing of which I am really happy about yet this year :shrug:

staticpen
thanks for the support!
feeling much better now that I am taking pills :-?

Mu
good idea... will do so whenever I stop being a failure chicken

Hi Sam
really great to see you here!!
You're right about the inconsistent shading... it's means I need to learn my anatomy a lot better. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

TedNindo
Sorry for having to delete the older images, my bandwidth is limited :/
I go to life drawing twice a week from 18h30 until 22hr, all schoolyear long.
I hope eventually you'll be able to attend some life sessions as well, they are really fun!

Sabrina
hi and thank you! The max limit for a pose is 40 minutes so we are forced to work fast. I am actually a slow drawer so these sessions are really pushing me. Let's hope in a year or 2 there will at least be a good deal of progress visible

sanpaiya
Thanks! I'm honored, your work is truly amazing

Aviva
Yeah being sick sucks. I've also started on vitamins a while ago and I think it is working.
Thanks for the support!

jesu
Thanks for dropping by!
if I had more time it would have been 500 pages by now lol

Anyway, also did some imaginational stuff lately, coming up...

alenah
10-11-2008, 09:13 AM
just want to tell you that I very much like your charcoals,
looks like this technique is pretty natural for you,
nice!
sorry about hearing you being sick,
hope you´ll be fine soon!
a.

NR43
10-11-2008, 09:32 AM
alena
Thank you!
Don't worry I am fine... ;)

Here's a selection of quick sketches made at work:

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0205_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0206_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0207_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0208_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0209_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0210_resize.JPG

This is a quick sketch made to capture the idea and perhaps work out as a painting. It's about kids being killed in a hit and run. This happens so often here it is really shocking. I cannot believe how someone could just drive off after hitting someone with their car...
I'm really worried about these things so I'd like to paint it, display it and hope it makes people aware of the danger that traffic is to all of us. Imagine it happened to one of your loved ones :(
I know this sketch has many issues. The woman in particular. I want to lower the viewing point to increase the drama to start with. any other ideas are welcome!
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0211_resize.JPG

We were talking about a fly that was bothering us at the office. The day before, there had also been a fly, but we had let that one out of the window, so we ended up laughing about taking today's fly as a pet... I was gesturing like I was walking it out on a leach, which triggered this idea. Come to think of it, I think I saw a painting of a girl walking out a dragon a long time ago, but I cannot remember the artist or anything...
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0212_resize.JPG

TedNindo
10-11-2008, 10:54 AM
you second last nude study looks really nice! It has a lot of expression! And I like the dragon pet, it looks very cool.

razz
10-11-2008, 12:36 PM
Great update, Johan! The different mediums you draw with and the different subjects you draw is exciting to see. You seem to be doing it all, refed, life, imaginational drawings. Cool.
About the piece you're doing for the danger of traffic, I would paint it somehow different. I mean, this kind of drawing reminds me of movies where a hero (or whatever) holds someone dead in his/her hands and shouts "noooo!!" while the camere goes up in the air showing the scene from the top. Just saying that if you wouldn't have tolds what the drawing is about, I wouldn't have known/understood. But that's just me!
Then again, painting a really grotesque scene might not be good also, but it should be something that would really get stuck in your head for some time. Try thumbnailing different ideas. You know, the first one is usually not the best one ;]
Oh, I've ordered Mechanika, so I'll join you with drawing mechanical stuff when it arrives, hehe.
Looking forward to another update.
Godspeed.

ForzaInter
10-11-2008, 12:57 PM
Hey Johan,

This girl in a uniform is...wow!:thumbsup: Did you use ref or drawn from imagination? The cloth folds are great!
The dark-light quality from the previous sketch is also very nice!

Suggestion about the woman with the kid: From what I can understand, you tried to capture the scene from above. You could make reference perspective lines and place the figures with boxes and basic shapes, inside. Then you could add details.

anandpg
10-11-2008, 01:00 PM
Hey Johan!! Welcome back! Love those life-studies and vehicle drawings!:thumbsup:

jesu
10-12-2008, 07:47 PM
nice life studies Johan.. Charcoal sketches are really good :)

xsiyou
10-13-2008, 12:02 PM
wow,Great update, I like your quick sketches.:thumbsup:

NR43
10-16-2008, 12:40 PM
TedNindo
Thank you!

razz
perfectly right about the hit and run piece. Will have to dig a lil deeper into it to get that right starting sketch. My initial thought was to have a low viewing angle because it would emphasize the child. I intend to make it quite shocking, really, but anywayz... it's like a good stew that needs to be cooked long enough te get a good result :)
Mechanika is a nice book, but as with most books, those workflow descriptions only really help if you are already skilled enough.
You should be doing great with it.

ForzaInter
Hey good to see you here!
The uniformed babe is just a quick sketch after the ImagineFX 36 cover by Aly Fell
About the hit and run piece: I actually started with the child and drew the woman around it, obviously not the ideal way to go, but it still needs a lot of thought...
Thanks for your help!

Anand
Thanks. I'm never away my friend, even when I'm not posting often (;

jesu
Thanks. Still needs a lot of improvent imho

xsiyou
Thanks. Actually, compared to the charcoals on big paper, these quick warmup sketches are a lot more lively I think. I like them too, dispite the usual weaknesses like proportions etc.

So a bit more sketches from life classes:

Warmups in ballpen
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3795_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3796_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3797_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3798_resize.JPG

NR43
10-16-2008, 12:42 PM
Charcoals on big textureless paper (which is aweful I think, but I had it layin around so I might as well use it) I seriously screwed up here LOL
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3793_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3794_resize.JPG

And another PITT brush pen sketch
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3799_resize.JPG

anandpg
10-16-2008, 02:23 PM
Hey Johan! The ball pen studies are beautiful!:thumbsup: Charcoal on smooth paper is difficult isn't it! :sad: I love how you drew the shoulder on the second one in the last post!

Kanga
10-17-2008, 11:41 AM
Man all the posts in 1065 look terrific! What is it with you and ball point pens? Works very well indeed.

Cheerio Chris

kasana
10-19-2008, 12:31 PM
Female studies looking super cool ... esp. the last one.
me also doing female now days but from images ....:sad:... I feel doing live will always be a dream.

staticpen
10-21-2008, 01:13 AM
I agree, those ballpoint pen sketches are really solid. :D Really enjoying the stuff you're posting, mate. Good times watching you improve. Very inspirational.

ForzaInter
10-21-2008, 07:50 AM
My favorite one is the last! Very interesting white-gray-dark combination!

One comment for the first two: try not avoid drawing hands and feet. It might be the most difficult part, but it's a good practice for sure. If you don't have enough space to draw them on the figure, try and draw them larger on a paper corner, and then when you have understood their gesture, draw them more abstract.

SpiritDreamer
10-21-2008, 01:01 PM
Hi ..Johan

GREAT FLOW and LINE with that pen work..Maybe try red ink pen and really sharpened to a fine point pastel pencils..maybe even combine them in the same figure study..you might get a really nice result...Just a passing thought.. Burne Hogarth showed me some of his note books when I was taking his class years ago...Most of his drawings were in red pen if I remember right, or pastel pencil..it was one of the two anyway.
The red linework gave the drawings a really nice feel..had alot to do with the color red....I think it has a way of evoking energy, in the veiwers eye, and also in the artist that is drawing with it...just a thought.
Anyway Johan..Keep up the GREAT work and progress..ALWAYS a real pleasure seeing both.
TAKE CARE
Glenn

NR43
10-22-2008, 04:54 PM
Hi Anand, thank you sir!
Need to practice A LOT with charcoal, luckily I will live for a 1000 years LOL

Chris
Heh ballpen is my favourite medium. I have some bad habbits with pen though like screwing up the eyes in portraits (just take a look at the portrait below and you'll see)

kasana
I love the female body hehe, but to be honest I wouldn't mind a male model in class every now and then either.

staticpen
Thanks mate. Been going through a somewhat rough period lately... wasn't even enjoying my drawing much. I am really glad I got out of it and I'm actually having loads of fun drawing again now! Up's and down's... that's life...

ForzaInter
Yeah I want to buy some real markers to sketch... they are very expensive though at 25€ for a set... so just waiting a bit more before I buy those... perhaps for Xmas :)

Hi Glenn
Thanks for the tip! Will see if I can find a red pen that isn't too greasy.
Should be fun to combine with other media...
Thanks also for your support!

more life drawing from Monday and Tuesday
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3800_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3801_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3802_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3803_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3804_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3805_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3806_resize.JPG

NR43
10-22-2008, 04:56 PM
and some more from the last 2 days
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3807_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3808_resize.JPG

this one is obviously unfinished and actually not that good now that I look at the scanned version
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3809_resize.JPG

Got a lot of wow's and aah's in class for this one (red aquarel pencil)
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3810_resize.JPG

killermachine
10-22-2008, 05:17 PM
you are doing greaat with the mediums.. i like the last one too
suggestion-hav you tried bridgeman?since its whole concept is about solidity and form i think it'l really help you

SpiritDreamer
10-23-2008, 09:17 AM
HEY Johan :)

GREAT updates...I really like those feet studies..especally the second one.
On your faces..it's a good idea to really get the eye socket bone structure in place and refined as much as possible first..shadows ect.,..Then concentrate on the eye lids, tops, and then especally the bottom ones...Then put the eyeballs in there last..consentrating on the shadows.
That red one is GREAT..nice MOOD/FEELING..:)

If you are able to, get the book...THE ARCAHE EYE OF BURNE HOGARTH...It's full of his red drawings..might give you alot of ideas and inspiration..GREAT BOOK...FULL OF HIS SKETCHES AND PERSONAL THOUGHTS ON LIFE AND ART:)
I bought it awhile back and got it out to see some of those red drawings that I mentioned to you earlier...Some of the ones I saw years ago in his small sketchbooks are in there..was nice to see them again..:)
That book is not expensive ether, only a few bucks if I remember right.
I bought my online..ALIBRIS. com..I think..or Amazon. com..can't remember at the moment..but it's deffenitly a good one to have in your personal library..:)
Anyway, keep up the GREAT work and progress Johan..Always a pleasure visiting your thread..:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

anandpg
10-23-2008, 12:28 PM
Hey Johan! Wonderful drawings again!:thumbsup: Love the feet!

Kanga
10-23-2008, 12:36 PM
Hi Johan
I would pretty much have to agree that the last sketch is right on. I really like big hands on a model and these are very expressive. Also the shape of the legs are great and the whole figure seems in balance. The only thing I can see is the upper arm muscle looks a bit symetrical, even though it is only a sketch the concave shape on the under part would be slid lower down on the arm I think.

Very nice stuff indeed :)

Cheerio Chris

teo-disturbed
10-23-2008, 02:24 PM
Hi man,
thanks for comments, and yeah I like to make and watch those kind of life sketches. It's showing how artist is thinking and observing, so we are exploring his mind and learning something new about him.

But I really hate when there is no free sit places in the bus...

ceruleanvii
10-23-2008, 09:35 PM
Some really nice recent life drawings here!

Nice feet too, those are tough from certain angles and you've done a good job with them.

alshakno
10-24-2008, 08:19 AM
Strong Brsuh!

really felt in love with this thread!

this what a really gesture should be!

i think there are lots of things i'm missing, should look more around!

GL

alicelefay
10-25-2008, 12:12 AM
I see lot of improvement in your works, and this is really good!
I like the last sketches you posted, I'm envy of the shadowing of that feets! :)

jesu
10-26-2008, 03:13 PM
hi johan,.. great sketches... Leg sketches with ball pen is really cool.. luv it

NR43
10-26-2008, 04:29 PM
killermachine
Heh it's ok... need a lotta practice with all of them still ;)
I've been meaning to read this Bridgeman book I downloaded a while ago but haven't got to it yet... damn pile of books to read is so high ARGH

Hi Glenn
You're right about drawing the surroundings of a feature. Actually this is what my teacher at school wanted to get in my head last 2 years... obviously he failed (or should I say I did ;) )
Thanks for reminding me this!

I hadn't heard of that Hogarth book yet... might try to find it after I read Dynamic Wrinkles and Drapery, which has been waiting for me on my shelf for an aweful long time...

Anand
Thank you! You know how it goes here... a pile of bad sketches and once every while a couple of nice ones arrive LOL

Chris
Sigrid, the model, is very skinny. I've noticed that skinny people like her seem to have a big head and big hands and feet... You're probably right about that arm.
Thanks for the support!

teo-disturbed
I couldn't draw on a bus whoa... too many bumpy roads here in Belgium heh

Hi Del
Thank you! Not even half as good as your stuff... *must practice more*

alshakno
Thank you!

alicelefay
Thanks a lot! Still a long long way to go ;)

jesu
Thanks mate!

This started as a study of the cover of IFX 35 (an army babe), but I quickly started experimenting with her appearance... so I decided to make her a princess (of persia?)

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0213b_resize.jpg

And a doodle, which I tried to make more interesting in Painter yesterday, but failed miserably, so just posting this thingie:
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0214b_resize.jpg

Working on a digital painting... stay tuned!

NR43
10-26-2008, 05:45 PM
So I took my copy of "Bold Visions" by Gary Tonge today for inspiration and stumbled upon this future city scape piece he describes in it.

No school this week so let's see if I can come up with my own attempt, just for the sake of fun...

About 2.5hrs so far... been messin around a lot with composition
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/paintings/scifi/landing_dock_resize.jpg

Intervain
10-26-2008, 06:31 PM
o cool :D I like the ship, looking forward to more on this one :)

NR43
10-26-2008, 08:45 PM
Thank you miss :)

I've already altered that tail though as I didn't like it at all... still very early so things might change a lot still. Will post more of it tomorrow.

In the mean time, here's a quicky with a simple round brush in Painter.
About 40 min, reffed.

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketches_digital/sketch_011_resize.jpg

EDIT:

Original Image (http://www.pbase.com/mitchellk81/image/65138034) by Mitchell Kanashkevich (http://www.mitchellkphotos.com/index.html)

NR43
10-27-2008, 08:51 PM
Today's speedie, about 1hr
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketches_digital/sketch_012_resize.jpg

Driving lessons with my gf took a bit longer than expected so I couldn't work on my scifi painting today... Hopefully tomorow then :shrug:

EDIT: Took me more than 2 hours to find the photographer who made this picture again (I had put these in my reference folder but forgot to bookmark the url)
So you can find the original image here (http://www.pbase.com/mitchellk81/image/65138036). It's made by the fantastic Mitchell Kanashkevich (http://www.mitchellkphotos.com/index.html)
His pictures are just too nice not to credit him :)

jesu
10-28-2008, 01:34 AM
digital portraits are looking good... and waiting to see final .

anandpg
10-28-2008, 02:59 AM
WOW! The quickies are cool, Johan! :thumbsup:

daWinky
10-28-2008, 06:49 AM
Hey Johan,

I agree with Anand, very nice these quickies - I like especially the last one, it seems to be full of light!
And I have a big smile on my face because I've discovered the sketch with the unusual pet - a dragon out for a walk, so cute!

-sabrina

sanpaiya
10-28-2008, 08:54 AM
hey johan ,, real cool quickies. . the colors choice is real nice. .

razz
10-28-2008, 11:32 AM
Hi, Johan!

Thanks for the helpful words at my thread, mate.
Now, you'll have to finish that sci-fi piece, you know that? Do look closely how Doug Chiang's finished paintings look in his book. See how you don't need to nitpick every little detail with great precision. Just saying this so you wouldn't spend twenty hours on that piece, instead of that do five more :) Also I suggest you look at other sci-fi pieces as well. Feng Zhu, Ryan Church, Syd Mead, Scott Robertson - take a look at their work.
For speedpaints like that, try blending the tones you've put on. It's a great way to paint with color dabs like that. Playing with the edges will help push those pieces forward.
Great to see more digital stuff from you. Please continue like that!

AztcFireFlower
10-28-2008, 09:27 PM
Hi Johan,

Good studies. Love that you keep it going, learning all the time.
Makes me want to jump into simple quick studies, too. Too much going outside and inside my head, tho. Waiting to clear space.

All your figure work is getting stronger. Try to always incorporate the longest line to your figures wherever that is, whether model is sitting or standing. Build the forms off this line. It will help maintain cohesiveness to your entire figure. It is a gesture line in initial stage, also could be the plumb of the weight from head to feet.
I'm applying this very thing into my own work. My stuff looks awful, as I get used to another concept, but, I know it will ultimately make my work that much more solid.

Please don't stop your explorations. They are inspiring.

NR43
11-01-2008, 11:18 AM
jesu
Thanks. They are just quick color exercises so I'll just leave them as they are ;)
I'd really like to be able to do one of these a day... if only I had more time *sigh*

Hi Anand,
Thanks for the encouragement!
I'm always proud when you take the time to visit here *makes a deep bow*

Sabrina
Hi! Always nice to see you drop by here.
Glad you like 'em... it's all just practice though, purpose is to keep me going and going.

sanpaiya
I really need a lot of practice on hue, value and saturation and how to combine these things, so expect more of those soon!

hey Razz!
You know my weaknesses :D
I'll try not to get into detail too much
I do try to use the big guys' work as an inspiration. Perhaps I should look a bit closer and pay more attention to their techniques.
Thanks for the help mate! Always appreciated!

Hey Esmeralda
Thank you for your visit and your kind words.
The tip about searching the longest line sounds excellent. Wasn't doing this at all I think, or at least not deliberately. I've written it on my sketchblock cover so I won't forget to do so tomorrow, when classes resume

I have so much to learn still and you guys keep me well aware of that.
This is exactly why I love this forum and it's frequenters
Thank you!

Here are some random thingies I drew from imagination at work this week.
Trying to experiment with shape and form, negative space and ofcourse training my imagination muscle (thx Glenn :) ). There is time for even more sketching during my working day, I think, so I'm gonna try to push this as far as I can... the more time I spend drawing, the better I'll become... working in a huge company like DHL does have it's advantages... for me anywayz LOL

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0215_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0216_resize.JPG

Thanks for watching!

batte812
11-01-2008, 01:55 PM
Hi Johan, nice to see you working from imagination; an essential exercice to devellop ideas! The digital paintings seem to lack a bit of depth imo; you should try to get the form to read befor you add the details. But it isn't easy for that last reference pic, becaus the contrasts are very subtle. Anyway: good studies for the rest. I hope you devellop that scifi-drawing some more: it looks promissing!

NR43
11-02-2008, 07:39 PM
Hi Bart
Yes I really ought to keep things as varied as possible
Best way to build up mileage I think
Thanks for visiting!

Worked all day on and off on this (in between giving E, my girlfriend, driving lessons, playing with the kids, etc)

Accuracy wasn't my biggest concern here (although it always is to a certain degree). I was more trying to experiment with brushes and strokes. Not yet coming to layer modes but perhaps soon I will. Anyway, learning heaps with each one...

After Mitchell Kanashkevich (http://www.pbase.com/mitchellk81/image/65138043)
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketches_digital/sketch_014_009_resize.jpg

alshakno
11-02-2008, 08:13 PM
Nice again
you may try rembrandt, there are some lighting problem in your works(in my opinion)
the contrast is what your work need so much, in those portraits and in this new one

also you can ignore all my posts :-D
cuz i'm a 3d guy that enjoy 2d a lot

GL

Intervain
11-02-2008, 08:37 PM
really nice one Johan - didn't know that artist to be honest :) We learn every day :D:cool:

razz
11-02-2008, 09:01 PM
First of all, huge thanks for the link to that photographer. Lots of good refs for me. I want to take oils out for studies like this last one of yours or the other two posted before.
I think the problem with the lighting is more in the reference than in the study. But despite that, those are some damn great looking photos that are asking to be painted even though It's a big challenge. I'd choose something more like THIS (http://www.pbase.com/mitchellk81/image/58838352) or THIS (http://www.pbase.com/mitchellk81/image/60333593) or maybe THIS (http://www.pbase.com/mitchellk81/image/92385693) if I wanted something more than one figure.
Looking good, Johan. For the second or third time, I think, when I came here I had this thought for a second if it's really your sketchbook that I came to. Guess I'm more used to seeing your drawings instead of paintings. Change that, please!

teo-disturbed
11-03-2008, 09:18 AM
Hello!

Thanks for the answer for some of my questions about artistic existence :D.

I have to say that some people [even a professionals from poland and abroad] told me that "Man I wish to had just a bit of your skill, when I was in your age." At all, they are great and awesome artists right now, so this was just making me frustrated, like - "What are you talking about!? It's just a little crap..." :D

Heh, BTW I've heard that the moments of frustrate and being not so sure about your possibilities and skill was a good symptoms, signs.
Even Leonardo said that artist isn't reaching anything, when he never felt resignated and unsure.


So thanks, and nice last painting, I think that only the guy is too lower than the, um, 'chair' you told that accuracy wasn't the thing that you was looking for at this piece, but it's just my few words about the work.
Whole sketchbook looks cool! :)

NR43
11-06-2008, 07:25 PM
alshakno - Mohammed,
Thank you! Great idea! Rembrandt is defenitely on my "masters-to-study" list. It's an awefully long list though heh...

Hi Magda,
yeah I accidently crossed his gallery when looking for portraits of old people. I love old people... I think you do too : )

razz
Heh yeah he's amazing isn't he.
I do have many issues with painting still... color, I've only started studying it since 6 months ago or so... and not even all that much... I should do hundreds, if not thousands of studies if I really want to understand light and how it affects color. I plan to do that, but I also plan to live for 200 years so I'll get there, eventually LOL
You're right, a sb with only life drawings or pencil sketches is impressive when each drawing is impressive... which can't be said in this case...you'd have to go to something like Esmeralda's sb. I'm not setting any standards here, nor do I intend to... this is just sort of a diary of my learning process throughout the years. I'm glad you and others are still interested in it's content. I'll try to keep it more varied.

teo-disturbed - Matthew,
We all question the quality of our work every now and then, and that's really not a bad thing ya know. You're doing great and I'm eager to follow your progress.
Thanks for visiting and taking the time to write your critique. I will try to pay more attention to accuracy, even when I have other priorities...

A selection of this week's life drawings:

Warmups... I think I'll always have proportion issues during warmups... but I guess that's why we do them... to get our eyes adjusted by the time we start the longer studies.
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3823_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3824_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3825_resize.JPG

And a pencil study from monday, 40min on A3 -3cm
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3826_resize.JPG

NR43
11-06-2008, 07:28 PM
And a couple of red ones, A3-3cm
Still haven't found a good red ballpen that's not too greasy
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3827_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3828_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3829_resize.JPG

Problem with this medium is that it is very soft, yet very greasy and sticky, almost like an oil pastel, but a lot softer. So when ya sharpen it in a point, it loses it's sharpness very quickly. This makes it hard to set some accents at the end

killermachine
11-07-2008, 03:29 AM
its been long time since i used ball pen,but i do remember the effort that used to go with it.the 2nd one has come out best of the 3,1st one has perpective issues with the leg.keep practising :beer:

Aviva
11-07-2008, 06:31 AM
Lovely life drawings Johan and nice to see some paintings! I just checked out the photographer you linked (thanks for sharing!), there's some great stuff there. Looking at this (http://www.pbase.com/mitchellk81/image/59661717) photo is gonna make me cry. Your talk of light and colour rememinded me of this tutorial (http://www.itchstudios.com/psg/art_tut.htm) which I'm sure has some useful tips that I've totally forgotten about. I must re-read it. :)

anandpg
11-07-2008, 08:42 AM
WOW! I love that leg study from post #1102 (bottom pic) :thumbsup:

Intervain
11-07-2008, 12:28 PM
yeah ballpen - damn I cannot draw a stick figure properly with it :D good stuff Johan!

SpiritDreamer
11-07-2008, 01:13 PM
HEY..Johan

Nice studies there...I really like that second red one.
You might try using just a regular red ink BIC pen, or a red ink fine line ball point pen of your choise,..to get your outter linework done first, then go into it with the softer red pencil to get your shading.
The oily pencil shouldn't affect the ink linework that you start with.
You can always wet the tip of your thumb with some spit, and rub in, blend and soften some of the edges, and interior forms ...I've gotten some really nice atmospheric effects doing that..A little spit can go a long ways in adding depth, air, and unity to your drawing..It will also join the ink and pencil mediums, making them appear as one medium.
Sometimes, there is nothing more sensitive and accurate at/in acheiving the result that your after, than the tip of your own thumb and fingers.
Keep up the great work and progress Johan, ALWAYS a pleasure seeing both in your thread.
TAKE CARE
Glenn

NR43
11-09-2008, 09:22 PM
killermachine
Use ballpen man! We all have them laying around everywhere (just not the red ones LOL)
It's my favourite medium :)

Aviva
Hey thanks for that tutorial link... lots of info in there, great to read as a reminder... bookmarked!

anandpg
Thanks yeah I'm pretty happy with how that one came out

Intervain
These last red ones aren't ballpen Magda. I was using this aquarel pencil because I still didn't find a decent red ballpen. Most pens I try are too greasy and for a lefty like me are a real pain because I wipe over my drawing and woosh... stained. I should have mentioned which medium I used.

Glenn
I'm too scared to wipe them with spit & thumb (or water and a brush)! I know I should but I like the result when using this aquarel pencil dry so much that I chicken out when I get to the phase to wash it... one day I'll do it! :blush:

Thanks all of you! Really appreciated!

So Razz, I ought to thank you as well coz I sat down this weekend with my old buddies Tom Waits, Lyle Lovett and Norah Jones and did the Indian man. I started with the entention to spend 2, 3 hours on it but I ended up taking it all the way... about 8 or 9hrs on and off during the weekend. Had an AWESOME time with this one!!

After Mitchell Kanashkevich: Portrait of a Reang Tribal Man (http://www.pbase.com/mitchellk81/image/58838352)

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketches_digital/sketch_015_020_resize.jpg[image removed to prevent copyright issues]

EDIT: I was laying in my bed this morning, thinking about this painting, and I realized I had forgotten to add part of the golden neckless (omg) because I did the necklesses last and kind of rushed the piece to the finish... so I got up and fixed it... lesson learned.

Hope y'all like how this study came out
Cya Soon!

alshakno
11-10-2008, 06:54 AM
I love this one,
very nice lighting, your hard work is reaching the goal, go on and on

i was going to make a sketch book but i think just should wait some more :D

GL

daWinky
11-10-2008, 09:25 AM
Hey Johan,

as always amazing to see all the new stuff since I last dropped in, but wow:surprised , this tribal man is really something:applause: ...Great work, I love the coloring and lighting. Putting some more time in it obviously makes the difference, hope to see more like this soon!

-sabrina

batte812
11-10-2008, 11:06 AM
Hi Johan, great work on the tribal man! Keep going!

ratheesh300
11-10-2008, 03:55 PM
wow! johan, the tribal man has turned out awesome! nice lighting! keep going mate!:D

Intervain
11-10-2008, 11:41 PM
:love::drool: - a stunning effort sir :applause:

anandpg
11-11-2008, 04:43 AM
awesome!:thumbsup: very expressive face!

razz
11-11-2008, 11:35 AM
Well now, just when I finished writing the reply, my computer decided to crash...
Was just saying that you did an amazing job on the last painting, but you should know that already. Don't know how it looked after 2-3 hours but I like the way it looks now. It's a tricky thing to know when to stop. I've Richard Schmid's paintings in his book, where he stopped at the very beginning, just after the block in with oils. And as he doesn't start every painting in the same way, those were very interesting to look at and really more work might've even taken away the beauty.
Looking forward to more, Johan!

staticpen
11-11-2008, 10:18 PM
Wow, dude! I've been away too long. Those studies are amaaazing! :D The figure drawings are coming out wonderfully as well. Great leg drawing!

SpiritDreamer
11-12-2008, 11:42 AM
HEY ..Johan..Just stopping by to say...FANTASIC JOB on that last painting of yours..:bounce: :applause:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

NR43
11-13-2008, 04:18 PM
Thanks all for the encouraging words!
I've put a series of WIP shots in a flash animation here (http://nr43.deviantart.com/art/Tribal-Man-study-WIP-shots-103296804) if anyone is interested
The final version in my DA gallery is different to this one here because I fixed the chin a bit there (thank you sanpaiya!)

Here's half of the life sketches from this week. The other half is just too crappy to post.
I will be focussing a bit on soft media like charcoal, pastel and conté a bit in class now, apart from the occasional comfort zone ballpen sketches, that is :blush: (they keep my confidence to a certain level after screwing up with the soft media ^^)

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3832_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3833_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3834_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3835_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3836_resize.JPG

Take care y'all and thanks for watching

sanpaiya
11-14-2008, 08:43 AM
hey johan . . again . .great work on the tribal man . . and the studies are really great. . esp liked the 2nd and 3rd ones. .

alenah
11-15-2008, 04:57 PM
great updates, johan! (that tribal man - ah, just amazing!) - but I also like some of your latest life drawings too!
btw - how did you decide - are you entering the CGchallenge??
(not sure - you mentioned somewhere in someone other´s thread, if I am not mistaken, that you considered joining the challenge, did you?)
a.

NR43
11-15-2008, 07:44 PM
sanpaiya Thanks man :cool:

alenah Thanks. Yeah I entered... not got any concrete ideas though... just letting it sink in at the moment... I've put a link in my sig if you're interested :)

Started a dragon painting today. All the sudden I realized it looked like that joker portrait I did and I immediately disliked it. So dumping it here and abandoning it.

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketches_digital/dragon_008_resize.jpg

Lexalotacus
11-17-2008, 01:33 AM
Your figure sketches are really good, It really looks like you're comfortable with form and your contour lines look clean and well placed. I'd like to see more faces though, I always struggle putting together all the features in correct proportion...

Anyhow, awesome stuff keep rockin' dude!
-L

NR43
11-18-2008, 02:38 PM
Hi Lex
Thanks. The problem is that at the moment we are sitting quite far from the model, which makes it hard to see the details when drawing faces or hands.
If I'm correct, we will be focussing on portraiture after new year...

Sketchdump from last nights life drawing session. Went home with a great feeling (tired but satisfied). No masterpieces (far from) but still... great feeling : )

warmups (some of my fellow students as the model was late. The man with the stick is our teacher)
http://www.nr43.be/sketchbook/HPIM3837_resize.JPG
http://www.nr43.be/sketchbook/HPIM3838_resize.JPG
http://www.nr43.be/sketchbook/HPIM3839_resize.JPG

Charcoals
30min
http://www.nr43.be/sketchbook/HPIM3840_resize.JPG

10min
http://www.nr43.be/sketchbook/HPIM3842_resize.JPG

30min
http://www.nr43.be/sketchbook/HPIM3844_resize.JPG

40min
http://www.nr43.be/sketchbook/HPIM3845_resize.JPG

15min
http://www.nr43.be/sketchbook/HPIM3846_resize.JPG

killermachine
11-18-2008, 02:44 PM
hey
cant see your latest post pics...dont know why but in older post i really liked your blue ball pen sketches.i think they were really gr8 by all aspects.keep up the good stuff:beer:

sirielle
11-18-2008, 02:50 PM
Fantastic charcoals, love them :) I rarely comment, but follow your sketch book, keep up the great job!

SpiritDreamer
11-19-2008, 01:05 PM
HEY...Johan..:)

GREAT JOB on those charcoals, ..Looks like you are getting more relaxed using them..:thumbsup:
You might think about getting some really loose broad and powerful strokes around the figures, to give the page more depth and atmosphere..That will really make your figures pop out, and stand out on the page..will also enhance the composition..:) Think of the entire page as a whole piece of well designed and defined composition.:)
ALWAYS a pleasure seeing your work Johan..Keep up the GREAT progress..:thumbsup:

sanpaiya
11-19-2008, 03:09 PM
whoa .. johan. . the charcoal works real great. . love the strokes. . they are gettin bolder and looser . . like glenn mentioned. . keep up your great progress. .

NR43
11-23-2008, 07:49 PM
killermachine
Yeah I have a whimsical webhost :(

sirielle
Hey good to hear from you! How's the painting going?

Glenn
Thanks I'll try that! Need to improve a lot more though
Glad you like them :)

Santhosh
I'm working on it. Need to practice these soft media more, they aren't my cup of tea... or at least that's how I feel at the moment. Perhaps it'll be better in a year or 2 :)

---
This week's been a really busy one... we've been redecorating the place, setting up new furniture, getting rid of the old stuff, re-arranging etc... bleh not too much time to paint.

Started something I wanted to do 2 years ago already though:
Plan is to create 3 paintings of my children (one of each) and print them on canvas at 25cm x 50 cm.

Here's a wip of the first painting:
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/paintings/portraits/sketch_017_014_resize.jpg

This is gonna hang on our bedroom wall one day so if you got any critique please don't hesitate ;)

Thanks for watching

alshakno
11-23-2008, 07:58 PM
Hey Johan
nice updates man
your new painting would be awesome, it has strong base
looking forward

GL

JohanGold
11-23-2008, 09:01 PM
m8 i liked ur playing with contrast

very nice

and how the contrast show the legs and the breasts...just amazing

i can't stop talking .. lol

so wonderful

cya m8

staticpen
11-23-2008, 11:25 PM
Wow man, this last image you're working on is looking quite lovely. :) Great job, and no crits. :D

anandpg
11-24-2008, 02:51 AM
Hey Johan!! Great charcoals, man!!:thumbsup: ...and the painting's going to be just beeeautiful, I can tell!:buttrock:

NR43
11-26-2008, 08:07 PM
alshakno Thanks!

MIX3XIM Thanks! my drawings used to lack a lot of contrast really, I'm working on that because it's a great way to create the forms, and it can be a very powerful compositional tool as well

Jason Thanks mate! Will continue it next weekend

Anand Thank you! From you, that means a lot!

Here's some of last week's screw-ups in pencil I hadn't posted yet - lots of proportional and other issues, but I thought I'd post them anyway, even if it's just to remind me of the errors I made :eek:

http://www.nr43.be/School/year_03/HPIM3847_resize.JPG
http://www.nr43.be/School/year_03/HPIM3848_resize.JPG
http://www.nr43.be/School/year_03/HPIM3849_resize.JPG
http://www.nr43.be/School/year_03/HPIM3850_resize.JPG
http://www.nr43.be/School/year_03/HPIM3851_resize.JPG

NR43
11-26-2008, 08:10 PM
This week I thought I'd experiment a bit...

Grey markers
http://www.nr43.be/School/year_03/HPIM3852_resize.JPG
http://www.nr43.be/School/year_03/HPIM3853_resize.JPG
http://www.nr43.be/School/year_03/HPIM3854_resize.JPG

Steadler 0.5mm blue marker (the tip of the red one broke off during the first gesture sketch! )
http://www.nr43.be/School/year_03/HPIM3855_resize.JPG
http://www.nr43.be/School/year_03/HPIM3856_resize.JPG
http://www.nr43.be/School/year_03/HPIM3857_resize.JPG

NR43
11-26-2008, 08:13 PM
And from life

Blue Aquamonolith Pencil from Cretacolor, with 0.5mm Staedtler pen where used dry.
The others are washed with water and my left thumb (thanks Glenn, your comment a few posts back pushed me to do this, and I'm really happy I did)

http://www.nr43.be/School/year_03/HPIM3859_resize.JPG
http://www.nr43.be/School/year_03/HPIM3860_resize.JPG
http://www.nr43.be/School/year_03/HPIM3861_resize.JPG

killermachine
11-27-2008, 02:58 AM
this can sound little harsh,but its constructive :wip:
experimentation is good,but watch out for the loss of strokes.
in your previous post the sketches didnt had a strong distinctive line..you can look at this way.if you were an animator and you had to clean up this drawing you wil not know which line to pick from those..(you can try tracing them after a gap of 4-5 days or week)
be fearless..let them screw up...it wont happen after 5-6 sheets in a row(at max.)

in the new sketches, i lik what you came up with but i would suggest concentrating on the primary purpose of those studies..you can render how you want it definatly but if the figure doesnt come out the way you want it to then even the best rendering wont help.

i hope it helped.looking forward to more stuff from your side :beer:
KM

NR43
11-27-2008, 05:43 AM
Hi Amrinder!
Really glad you are trying to help me :)

If you don't mind I'd like to dig a lil deeper.

in your previous post the sketches didnt had a strong distinctive line..you can look at this way.if you were an animator and you had to clean up this drawing you wil not know which line to pick from those..(you can try tracing them after a gap of 4-5 days or week)


I'm not sure if I understand exactly what you mean?
A while ago, Esmeralda (AztcFireFlower) advised me to always look for the longest line in the figure. Perhaps this is what you mean? If so, I understand what you mean, because I keep failing to find this longest line :)
If this is not what you meant, can you give me some visual examples please?

That being said, one of my main focusses lately is trying to be less dependant of line. My teacher told me a few weeks ago that I have to be careful not to make it an exercise in filling in (like a childrens coloring book).
Trying to let go and have no fear of screwing up is also one of the things I am working on. (Apparantly not having much success yet hehe)
I do feel I am making a tiny bit of progress on that matter though since the proportional issues are becoming less important to me (or is this just sloppiness??)


I consider the last ones (the watercolor pencil ones) as a personal success, simply because I have used this medium dry for quite a few times already but always had the fear of screwing up the drawing when washing them. Now I finally was able to dare doing this. A lot of the figure's "substance" got sort of lost while washing them with my thumb, so I tried to put some accent on forms with line afterwards.

Anyway, thanks a million for your critique, Amrinder!
It is the very reason why I post my stuff here (and not just the things I like).
Please DO continue to write your thoughts and NEVER EVER fear of being too harsh!
I've only been drawing for 3 years so I have a shitload to learn still ;)

killermachine
11-27-2008, 06:13 AM
hey
glad you got most of what i was saying ,rest i guess i wasnt clear enough.my bad. i'l explain it again.
in 2D animation,when the key animator draws he makes very rough shots which are usually lik gesture sketches, capturing the idea.after that, its the job of clean up artist,to give them the look you see on tv(talking about lineart only)

now if we take your statue study sketches as those key poses and tell a clean up artist to finalise it, he can hav problems because there are multiple strokes for everything and since they are of same strength(means darkness/lightness) he cant choose the right one.so it causes needless delay.So, at this level i will suggest that you start using pencil more and take advantage of its variation instead of pen.to remove your fear..do as much gesture sketching as possible(subway/cafe/bus etc) with blunt pencils. it'l reduce the number of lines and increase stroke confidence.when this is done using pen will as easy as pencil

see some studies of glen keane (http://theartofglenkeane.blogspot.com/2006/06/women.html) .notice the places where there are multiple strokes.there some strokes are darker then other and are very less in number(try seeing them in thumbnails too).i hope im able to make things clear this time.if not let me know i'l b back :surprised

tc

NR43
11-27-2008, 06:53 AM
It's indeed easier with a blunt pencil to add weight and movement. I'll keep working on my contrast, lineweight and flow. I'm kind of a slow learner so pls bear with me (it might take me a couple of years ;) )

It's hard to find a balance between stroke economy and feeling the form while drawing (on these quick statue gestures in blue 0.5mm pen for example, I estimate about 40 to 60% of the lines are drawn while looking at the statue, not the paper. It's me feeling the form, searching for that edge of the form, almost touching it in my mind)

But there's no need to deny that I should sketch a lot more... :cry:

Anyway, thanks a lot!
It's imperative that some of you guys keep reminding me about things.
Must try some stuff now (hope the boss doesn't mind :blush: )

SpiritDreamer
11-27-2008, 10:57 AM
HEY...Johan...Glad to see you found the courage to use your thumb..:thumbsup: :)

Those last ones where you did it, look GREAT..:applause:
That is the way you learn how to paint....using edge, light, and atmosphere, with a minimum amount of line, of which is an abstraction unto itself..When you see a figure in real life..where is the line,..there is no line,..there is only form/volume in space, defined by edge, light, shadow and atmosphere.
Line is an abstract form of art, which becomes very evident the minute you pick up a paint brush and start to paint the form..you don't paint line, you paint form..and you can't paint between the lines like a child does in a coloring book, if you don't use line to begin with.
There is a big difference between drawings/renderings, sketches/abstractions, and paintings...The age of photo's and what is perceived as reality have blurred that difference, but that difference is still a reality none the less..:)
Keep up the GREAT work and progress Johan...ALWAYS a pleasure seeing both..:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

sirielle
11-27-2008, 12:51 PM
Hi Johan, it's not going at all. I did maybe 3 sketches since August, so no good news on my part, but your updates always make me want to come back to drawing :)

aethalin
11-27-2008, 06:06 PM
Hiya,

Nice work sir, but I tend to like your pen gestures more than your charcoal. There are some anatomical discrepencies, but you are learning rather well and rather quickly. you sometimes seem to lose the dynamics of the pose, once you start to render it. I think that some tend to turn out a bit flat. I would continue trying to work on as many gestures as you can. I think that it will help in your final piece. I often will lose the gesture in my work, once I start to fall into the details, if I am not careful. I think that they are coming along well though. Keep up the good work. :)

As always take care, be safe, and farewell

aethalin

staticpen
11-28-2008, 06:39 PM
Man, you are getting so much better, page by page. I'm really proud. :)

Frejasphere
12-01-2008, 09:24 AM
Hi Johan :)

Had to stop by here and say hello after being away for so long :)
Looked through your last pages and it's great (as always) to see how busy you are.
I love the wip of your child! Didn't even have to read description to see it's one of
your babies (and that's without even having met them :) ). Sure the 3 paintings will turn out wonderful!

cheers buddy :)
a.

ceruleanvii
12-01-2008, 03:17 PM
Your pencil and pen sketches are really good! I like those a lot, the anatomical discrepancies don't bother me because the pose/line is so strong in those. I think some of the other stuff (charcoals, wet media) get a little indistinct...

And I love where you're going with your child's portrait! Very sweet, and colors are working well. I need to paint my kids one day, in all my free time :)

NR43
12-20-2008, 09:36 AM
Glenn
Thanks for the useful instructions as always!
Still many years of practice required to reach a level where I will be truly satisfied with what I do

sirielle
For me it's pure fun now! The result is almost never as pleasing as I would like it to be, but the process of creating has some kind of therapeutic effect on me!

aethalin
Thank you! You're absolutely right! I've been doing as you said... concentrating on gesture and working quickly and loose in general... still so much improvement to make, but getting there slowly :)

staticpen
Heh thanks mate... now if I could only apply my knowledge to some personal, imaginational pieces O_o (one day, I tell ya!)

Dear Annette!
How nice of you to drop by!
I guess my kids look a lot like me hehe

Dear Del
I'll work on my consistency... those particular wet media were a first timer so still a lot of experimenting to do with that
Hopefully I can get rid of the indistinctness in a while
Thanks for your help, as always!
Take good care of yourself now *hug*

Finally making some time to make a small update.
Did loads and loads of gesture sketches, of which most of them are total crap. I'm only posting the stuff from school I like, which is about 30-40% of what I made there. Will try to post some other stuff as well later today if I can.

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3867_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3869_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3871_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3872_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3873_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3874_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3875_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3876_resize.JPG
Thanks all for your support!

NR43
12-20-2008, 09:39 AM
One more from, from this week

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3877_resize.JPG

Sometimes when the model is late, we are presented a painting to study from:

30min, pencil on A3
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3868_resize.JPG

15min, pencil on A3
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/HPIM3870_resize.JPG

razz
12-20-2008, 11:33 AM
Wow, you got better! It seems this is happening with every update you make. I like the longer drawings more. You should update more often, mate. Don't wait until there's a pile of drawings. You must've loved Rebecca's post today, hehe. A lot can be learned from the pieces there.
I think you're doing great. It's exciting to watch you improve. Looking forward to more!

NR43
12-20-2008, 11:56 AM
Hey Razz
Thanks for watching and sharing your opinion :)
I'm quite busy lately... I try to be a dedicated father as well and I am teaching my gf to drive, which is taking a considered amount of my free time because she has a bad eye which makes it really hard for her to estimate distances, speed, etc.
She won't be getting her license before next summer, that's how hard it is for her... but she'll succeed if she keeps practicing every day.

Sometimes I have some time to sketch at the office, which makes it an ok job I guess (even though I'm totally not interested in finance BUEEK)

Here's a quick selection of office sketches

After Marek Okon, IFX39 p 77
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0222_resize.jpg

No ref (they are actually in red pen but I forgot that my scanner is in greyscale mode... ah well, too lazy to rescan them :p)
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0224_resize.jpg
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0225_resize.jpg

Intervain
12-20-2008, 04:10 PM
I especially like the last sketch in the bunch!

NR43
12-21-2008, 07:21 PM
Thanks Magda
I took it in Painter and played a bit with it
Thinking he could become some kind of steampunk-ish astronaut that came back from a failed mission (I want melancholy in his expression)... or is he just homesick?
Who knows

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketches_digital/sketch_019_009_resize.jpg

konrad11
12-22-2008, 12:06 AM
He looks melancholy but maby he needs some other, more expresive colours?

Djampa
12-24-2008, 01:07 PM
Very good to see your sketchbook ! You did cover a lot of ground ! :)

last painting is very steampunkish yeah, melencohly ? It feels so to me.

I will try hard to be more active around.

Merry Christmas !

Mu
12-25-2008, 03:12 PM
Hi Johan,

merry christmas, mate! I like your astronaut. Maybe you should lower the shoulder a bit to make it fit the melancholy head pose?

anyway,

cya
Mu

Intervain
12-25-2008, 03:39 PM
Happy Holidays Johan :)

NR43
12-25-2008, 05:49 PM
konrad11
Hey thanks you're right. I've added some more saturated skintones, still a lot to improve though...
Happy holidays!

Djampa
Thank you!
Merry Xmas to you and yours!

Mu
Hey man! Thanks for visiting! I'll try incorporating the astronaut's mood more in his whole pose. Thank you! And a very merry Xmas to you mate!

Magdalena
Hey thanks, same to you!


Here's a small update on that astronaut:

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketches_digital/sketch_019_011_resize.jpg

The greyscale version shows the values need a lot of work too :/
I really need to boost the contrast in the area's of interest!

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketches_digital/sketch_019_011bw_resize.JPG

I'm a bit busy right now so to all you wonderful peepz here at cgtalk:

My very best wishes for 2009!

-voraz-
12-25-2008, 06:17 PM
Hi Johan, nice work you have been posting, those legs from the previous page look great.
We can see some improvement going on here.
Cheers

SpiritDreamer
12-26-2008, 02:54 PM
HEY Johan...ALWAYS a real pleasure visiting your thread..:)

Maybe some blending with a big brush to get rid of the choppy strokes in that astronaut piece..might enhance the mood and atmosphiric feeling of the piece I think..Just a passing thought that might be of some use to you.don't know, but thought it worth mentioning..:)
Anyway...Wishing you and yours the very best in the new year that is about to overcome us all..:thumbsup: :)
TAKE CARE Johan
Glenn

alicelefay
12-26-2008, 03:41 PM
nice work!
Yes, you need more contrast in this piece, but it's working good yet!
waiting to see more! :D

staticpen
12-30-2008, 12:29 AM
I like the colors, mate. :) Indeed, as everyone has discussed, value is the issue here... it might be an idea to throw the light that's currently on the background to the left, and put the darker value behind the face, in order to make the focal point pop. This way you'll have a light face over a dark bg, and a lighter bg behind the darker headgear. Charcoal artists do this a lot to great effect. Just a thought. :D

Looking good man!

selphoo
01-01-2009, 01:59 PM
hey there johan!

i think that u have a good idea for that illustration ;)

i wish u a creative new year 2009!

cheers!

NR43
01-01-2009, 03:48 PM
Thank you all for the good advise on the astronaut piece.

Not been very active with Painter lately.
Here's a study of a kingfisher I did after seeing this (http://zhuzhu.deviantart.com/art/Kingfisher-93570360):

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketches_digital/sketch_020_008_resize.jpg

And here's the ref (http://www.laagwater.com/afbeeldingen/achtergronden/ijsvogel-2.jpg)

Thanks for the continuous support in 2008 *bows deeply*
You peepz ROCK!
All the best for 2009 to YOU!!

Intervain
01-01-2009, 07:31 PM
wow beautiful :) I love the beak - looks so real :)

Happy 2009 :D

razz
01-01-2009, 08:52 PM
Wow, I like this last study of yours! Nicely done. What I'd like to see is some more visible brushwork, but that's just totally me. It's just good when one can simplify when looking at a pretty detailed subject, such as the bird with all it's feathers here. I find it very hard.
Good brushes that I've found to achieve a brush-like effect are Round Camelhair and Thick Wet Camel, both in Oils category. Those are great also because it's kind of hard to detail stuff with them because of how they behave small sized. Creates a very traditional look. Used them in my latest study after Sargent. You might just want to give them a try :)
A good way to start the new year, Johan! May 2009 be full of happiness and creativity!

staticpen
01-01-2009, 10:12 PM
Happy New Year Johan! :D

Dude, that bird painting is pretty intense. Great job on the feet and perch, especially. Those values and form shadows are very well placed. :) Really, you did a wonderful job here, and I can't believe how much you've improved in the last year... May 2009 see you improve just as much!

SpiritDreamer
01-02-2009, 10:39 AM
HEY.:wavey: ..HAPPY NEW YEAR Johan..:)

Fantastic JOB ON THAT King Fisher...:thumbsup:

I have a nesting pair of those in a huge old oak tree that overhangs the salt water marsh behind my house..I catch a glimpse of them once in awhile in the summer, as they dive into the water after the small fish that come in with the tide..Great sight and action to see happening...They are supper fast flying birds, and hit the water like a bullet..and come up with a fish in their beak without fail, just about every time..:)

Watch the composition on your piece...You have devided the image into halfs...Notice in the refference, how it's beak overshoots the halfway mark, putting something in the left half of the image, creating a ballance, so all of the weight and interest is not all on the right half of the image..Always think of the whole space...positive and negative space in your composition, and the way that it is devided...weight and ballance....flow and rhytum..:)
Would be interesting to see some water and reeds down below, on the left side, and merging into the right side in that image...Could create a circular flow in the composition..Just a passing thought..:)
Anyway,...ALWAYS a real pleasure seeing your work, and the GREAT progress that's going on in your thread Johan..:thumbsup: :)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

selphoo
01-02-2009, 01:36 PM
great job in last one- very nice color!

cheers

AztcFireFlower
01-02-2009, 09:48 PM
Hey Johan, Nice start to the astronaut.

anandpg
01-03-2009, 04:48 AM
Hey Johan!! A sweet birdie to kick-start the new year, huh? Great job, buddy!:thumbsup: Have a great and productive year ahead!:scream:

NR43
01-03-2009, 05:32 PM
Magdalena
Awesome birds, those kingfishers!

razz
Thanks for the tips. You're right... I need to loosen up a lot! What about this "Great Tit"? These birds are visiting us every day, and I must say that they are so adorable... Unfortunately the Oil Brushes you mention slow down my poor old system too much to be able to use them but I used Some other oil brushes for this one below. Hope you like it!

Jason
Aha! Thank you! Imrpovement is my main concern for the followin decade, apart from FUN :D

Glenn
Wow, I must say that's pretty well spotted... about the composition.
I was explaining to my daughter about the layer system in Painter, which is why I moved the bird to the right, but had forgotten to put it in place again afterwards. Thanks! Also for the explanation about balance... makes much sense!

Daniel
Thanks man!

Esmeralda!
Thank you! Always a real pleasure to see you in my humble thread :)

Anand
Thanks mate! Plan to practice a lot this year, let's hope I can!
What are you up to lately?

So here is 'The Great Tit" aka Parus Major... one of our neighbours.
These creatures are so vivid and they make really interesting sounds.
Just lovely!

Reference foto (http://www.panoramio.com/photo/5736265)

About 30 min in Painter IX.5 with Bristle Oils and Flat Oil Brushes + Palette knife
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketches_digital/sketch_021_resize.jpg

jesu
01-03-2009, 05:36 PM
Happy New year Johan,
Both are very nice paintings,.... beautiful:)
I guess subject wise framing can be improve, but good works.

NR43
01-03-2009, 06:16 PM
Hey Jesu
Thank you! Happy 2009 to you too!

Here's a quick sketch (a tree from our garden) I had made this afternoon while my son was drawing with the intuos in Painter :D

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0226b_resize.jpg

alicelefay
01-04-2009, 08:45 AM
That little bird is awesome! I SO love the movement of the wing, it's cool!
:applause:

sirielle
01-04-2009, 11:21 AM
Have a great 2009, too! With a lot of free time for art journeys :D

Beautiful birds, lovely details and colours on the first one and movement with the second :thumbsup:
Your astronaut brings to my mind an old astronaut left alone on a distant space station. Something like old SF stories, without hyper extra special effects but with a lot of space, stars, mystery and loneliness. I also keep thinking he is Russian man. I wonder what it will look like when you finish it :)

What did your son drew in Painter?

NR43
01-04-2009, 02:15 PM
Thanks Alice, yes it's what attracted me in the reference image and inspired me to paint it :)

sirielle
I did a lot of changes to the astronaut already, but not posting yet... I'm more in a bird-period now actually so the astronaut is just in between birds at the mo

Here's a totally failed attempt at watercolors in Painter... the way the colors loose their vibrance once put on the canvas has really scared the hell outta me.. I can't use any value higher than the paper I use it on :argh:

About 25 min, various watercolor brushes
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketches_digital/sketch_022_resize.jpg

anandpg
01-04-2009, 03:10 PM
Beautiful!*_*

sirielle
01-04-2009, 04:02 PM
The bird mood is a positive one :) I don't think it is failed attempt at all, very nice bird!

The only thing I see is your paper colour choice - I guess watercolours should be done on white paper. If one chooses another colour than dry brush or another brush type is a salvation for highlights - dry acrylics or oil pastels, something which covers the paper/background totally, just like you would do it on a real canvas. Watercolours never cover the paper in 100%, at least it's what I get from Painter, haven't used real ones in any real attempt since primary school and it's been a while since I've been there ;)
So I would use a light beige paper if I intended to paint only with browns and reds, adding highlights with pastels brush. I would use blue for night etc. But for painting with colours only white. Your choice made poor little birdie being exposed to bad, rainy weather. Again - I am not watercolours specialist, you've seen my Painter attempts, it's only what I would choose.

One more thing - paper texture - have you add it in the beginning or the end? I never worked it out in Painter, it always looks artificial to me and looks this way on your image. But in Art Rage paper texture chosen in the beginning works well, I've had it coming from under oils while painting, brush stroke after brush stroke, like it was real :)

NR43
01-04-2009, 06:04 PM
Hi Sirielle
I used the paper texture first in this case, but I think you can do it both ways in Painter. The advantage of doing it first is that you see the effect while you paint. If you do it afterwards it might be a bit of a "surprize" sometimes. I don't use it often though...

I realized it was the paper color/value that was causing my highlight values to be rather low, when I was writing my previous post :)

So here's a version with brightness/contrast boosted:
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketches_digital/sketch_022b_resize.jpg

I think I like this one better... can't really make up my mind about it... oh well, on to the next one I suppose :surprised

Intervain
01-04-2009, 06:27 PM
he's pretty :) I actually like the first version better... guess it's a personal preference thing...

NR43
01-04-2009, 06:41 PM
Yeah they don't show that often as they used to here (our cat even killed one last year omg) but when they do... I can totally forget about what I was doing and just watch em until they are out of sight...

So here's an update on that astronaut... I've been avoiding the face... will have to tackle it soon... I think the lighting is getting more consistent slowly... I dropped all layers at this stage btw... I can still add color later... wanna experiment with light and value first...

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketches_digital/sketch_019_016_resize.jpg

BTW, I ordered my new camera: a Nikon D60 + 18-55mm VR lens WOOHOO can't wait to get it:bounce:

razz
01-04-2009, 09:35 PM
Yeah, Johan, the birds are much looser and look nicer that way, for my taste anyway. Keep doing it and you'll have more and more stuff in those loose strokes. Reminds me I should do some studies from photos, need to see in a painterly way myself.
Mmm, Nikon D60, I was looking at an advertisement of that particular one just the other day. Though it would be nice to change my Nikon Coolpix L5, haha.
On this steampunk dude, I may suggest rotating the suit a bit towards the viewer, just a tad bit would help I think. Just so it wouldn't be in complete profile. By the way, watch your horizon line. It looks like we're looking at the face from the top, but it doesn't show in the suit.

Cheers!

NR43
01-05-2009, 07:29 PM
razz
Thanks. Might try that... or not... losing interest in the astronaut
You know how it goes with them suits... you move your head but the suit doesn't move an inch :shrug:

jesu
Birds birds birds! Gotta love 'em :D

Here's today's painting.

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketches_digital/sketch_024_012_resize.jpg

I saw one here a couple of years ago... hard to find them today

edit: some weird thing is making my post appear 2nd last instead of last :surprised
edit 2: upped a bigger version to my DA account (http://nr43.deviantart.com/)

jesu
01-05-2009, 07:52 PM
hi johan bird colors are really good. Waiting to see final update on astronaut.

staticpen
01-05-2009, 08:54 PM
Johan! I'm sorry I don't have time to properly talk about stuff this time, but that bird on the textured paper has some AWESOME brush technique. Well done, mate. :D

AztcFireFlower
01-06-2009, 02:24 AM
Johan, Aah, a being after my own heart, I only use Nikons, or did. I have a dusty F5 that I love, but haven't had the occasion to use anymore, as film and developing takes time. I sooo want a Nikon Digital SLR, so I can use all my old lenses with.
Let's the pics as soon as you take 'em.

Birds are the most amazing aviation experts. I am always enthralled when hummingbirds hang out in the yard. So, cute, so tiny! Sweet subject you have there.

I have a few questions for you:
What version Painter are you using? I now have a a grudge with Painter 9 as it completely corrupted a master copy I was so close to finishing. Still mad >:]
Love the brushes, hate the engine.

On the astronaut - Do you have one light source? You can strengthen the continuity in the face and body. If there is a reflected light as well, I think, one light should dominate, so it reads clearer. My thinking is to pick a strong light direction, and diffuse it as you need. I think it will help in defining the features and costume details.
An ex.: An overhead such as a skylight, can make your character's face dramatic without harsh shadows. Think Justin Sweet.

Am looking forward to seeing it turn out.

Aviva
01-06-2009, 01:27 PM
Great birds Johan! I really like the loose strokes of the robin.

Wow, I leave for a while, and people start having bird phases. I just bought this (http://media.unswpress.com.au/hiresimages/9780642276803.jpg), so I may be a little bird obsessed myself. ;)

A new camera is very exciting. I got my first SLR a little while back and have been having a great time learning how to use it. Today I was a little overenthusiastic about getting a shot of a wedgetail eagle (which resulted in me landing on my butt in the dirt) - I couldn't believe there was an eagle flying around a suburban park!

sirielle
01-06-2009, 01:47 PM
Cute bird :) With the other one - the version with higher contrast has got better colours, but lost the rainy mood. You could do a mix of them - put the new on a layer over the old one and erase some parts. Not necessary to do it, though.

I agree on the astronaut to both comments - the suit doesn't follow body movement, too stiff, but then I think the head would be hid more inside, like under a stiff hood of a winter jacket.

NR43
01-06-2009, 08:03 PM
staticpen Thanks! Glad you like it :D
Esmeralda Painter IX.5 ;) The astronaut ... hm think I'm gonna dump him and move on
Tessa Yeah I had my first SLR (Nikon F601 in the early 90s... aah those were the days!)
sirielle I need to be more consistent about everything, so it seems O_o

Today's sketch... can't believe I spent nearly 2hrs on it omg
I've forgotten everything!
No ref
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketches_digital/sketch_025_003_resize.jpg

Art History classes tomorrow so I doubt I'll be painting :(

alenah
01-08-2009, 02:00 PM
hi Johan,
after having spent about half an hour here in your thread right now (what a lovely and relaxing half an hour for me!) I got finally to the last post of your looooong thread -

nice to see you trying all those different techniques and your (very admirable, btw) neverending effort for new things and approaches!
its a pleasure to follow your work ..

while browsing your thread, so many questions came to my mind ... so - at least a few of them, if you do not mind:
- how about the wip portrait of your doughter? did you have time to work on it?
- do you study digital media in your school too - or it is it a "traditional" art school, which you attend?
.. and .. how did your daughter like your tablet, btw? (you mentioned in one of your posts that you had to go drawing with pencils instead, lol, if I can remember well ..)
:)
a.

NR43
01-10-2009, 06:02 PM
Hi Alena
you know how it goes... learning through trial and error :D
Thanks a lot for the kind words, works very stimulating for me :)

With their permission, I've just created a blog on which I will continue to add the digital drawings of my oldest daughter Amber and my son Lars (my youngest daughter Inèz does not use the pc yet)

You can follow their progress here:
http://theartofamberandlars.blogspot.com/

Enjoy!

I haven't worked on the portrait of Inèz yet, but I have a week off work now so I'll try to finish it this week
The drawing course I follow at school is a 5 year education. First 2 years were basics and anatomy from plaster casts, from 3rd year on it is life drawing. Only traditional media are allowed. (I sense a certain amount of suspicion towards digital drawing and painting from my colleagues, especially if the subject is fantasy or scifi... some even laugh thinking "yeah right"... it's just a matter of educating them properly... which I will try to do in time LOL

alenah
01-11-2009, 05:17 AM
With their permission, I've just created a blog on which I will continue to add the digital drawings of my oldest daughter Amber and my son Lars (my youngest daughter Inèz does not use the pc yet)

You can follow their progress here:
http://theartofamberandlars.blogspot.com/



ah, Johan, just lovely !!!
I wish I had such a daddy, too, indeed ..

and thanks for your answers,
now - after I read your reply, I can remember - you were already talking somewhere about your school, and the attitude towards the "digital x traditional" art ..
btw - yes, I know what you are talking about, too - ... "ah, so you work digitally, so the computer paints all those things instead of you, hmm .. but look at Mr XY, he is a "real" artist, he does not use computers and HAS TO draw/paint everything by himself ... :)

looking forward for your updates, a.

anandpg
01-11-2009, 05:58 AM
Hey Johan! Thanks for the link to your kid's painting blog! Really sweet!:thumbsup: It's so interesting to see the different subjects they paint and the beautiful colors they choose, even at such an early age!

NR43
01-12-2009, 12:47 PM
Alena
Heh you make me blush now
There's no guarantuee that my children will keep drawing and painting as they grow up (although I would find it awesome). You see they only get 30min pc time on wednesdays and again during the weekend. Until recently they were playing some webbased games (like tetris etc) so I just told them that if they want to, they can also play a bit in Painter instead of playing games, which they seem to like (for now). There's no pressure whatsoever, if they rather play a game, that's fine by me, so we'll have to wait and see :)

Anand
Yes! Covered topics are very different. While Amber likes drawing sweet pets and animals she likes, Lars (although younger) seems to want to tell a story with his drawings... dragons spitting fire, an eagle making a vulcano burst lava,... I really envy these kids for their unlimited imagination!

Here's another speed bird
started it last night and finished it up just now... perhaps an hour in total. Not really happy about this one but oh well... win some, loose some.
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketches_digital/sketch_027_004_resize.jpg

Reference (http://hellfirediva.deviantart.com/art/Slippery-When-Wet-49298550)by the very talented Kristina Kotarski (http://hellfirediva.deviantart.com/)

Intervain
01-12-2009, 12:52 PM
ooh how cute! nice birdy though it feels like there's no shadows on him :) you make me want to try a bird very much :)

NR43
01-14-2009, 01:25 PM
Thanks Magdalena... you're right!

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0138_resize.jpg
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0139_resize.jpg

I swear she has such short lower legs!
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0141_resize.jpg
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0142_resize.jpg

Tuesday evening session:
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0143_resize.jpg
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0144_resize.jpg

Suddenly, her head fell off!
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0145_resize.jpg
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0148_resize.jpg

yarabe
01-14-2009, 02:02 PM
Very nice sketches! I like your shading-technique i should try it sometime :D

sirielle
01-14-2009, 02:44 PM
A moment of horror during drawing classes, good that her head come back to it's place ;)

NR43
01-15-2009, 10:42 AM
yarabe
Thanks, it's basically starting with hatching and adding some flat shading here and there when there is time left.

sirielle
Heh or a funny way to cover up a basic error :blush:

Here's a color study in Painter, using the Loaded Palette Knife only
I'm beginning to realize the power of this versatile tool. You can do anything with it, if you got the skills (LOL) I will use this more often because it will force me to create the illusion of detail, rather than actual detail. LOVE IT!

Reference photo (http://hellfirediva.deviantart.com/art/Little-Miss-Sunshine-89947221) by the supertalented Kristina Kotarski (http://hellfirediva.deviantart.com/)
Please visit her lovely gallery.

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketches_digital/sketch_028_014_resize.jpg

And some detail shots at 100%
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketches_digital/sketch_28_detail1.jpg

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketches_digital/sketch_28_detail2.jpg

Hope you like it :)
Critique away, I would say LOL

SpiritDreamer
01-15-2009, 11:53 AM
HEY Johan .:) ...GREAT STUFF...:scream: :thumbsup:
Nice to see you exploring that palette knife..very powerful expressionistic tool..:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

alicelefay
01-15-2009, 12:01 PM
Hey nice work!!
The colour palette is really cool, and the tecnique is amazing!
Yeah, suggesting the details...one thing that it's really hard to me >.<

sirielle
01-15-2009, 01:58 PM
Lovely frog and drop of water. Illusion of detail, I like this idea. Got to try it, so far the only time I used this tool was making apple skin texture in ArtRage.

NR43
01-15-2009, 04:03 PM
Glenn
Thanks... this is only a start :D

Alice
Yeah I love the original photo for it's saturated colors

sirielle
It's a lot harder than it sounds... will practice this as well

Here's some real quickies while my son was watching Pokémon.
(About 7 min each I think)
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0227_resize.jpg

killermachine
01-15-2009, 05:12 PM
wow i didnt knew the palette knife could do that.i hav really been strugling to find the right kind of tool for me in painter.i guess this might be it.thanks for the demo

Rabid1
01-15-2009, 09:22 PM
NR43- nice updates man, those are some lovely birds, great technique on the feathers. The frog piece is also well done, i've never used Painter, but that palette knife style is very appealing! As a small crit i would say maybe add a few hyper-details to the frog, since its such an up-close perspective on the skin and head.

Keep it up!

staticpen
01-16-2009, 07:04 PM
Man, you're really tearing through these pages these days! Great batch of life drawings, sir. Your hatching is in all the right places these days. :D I did get a good laugh out of that "her head fell off" drawing, too. Haha.

You inspire me with your progress!

NR43
01-21-2009, 02:25 PM
killermachine
yeah I'm just starting to use it recently but I'm lovin' it!
definetely try it!

Rabid1
You're absolutely right that I should not stick to reference images too closely... as I am really still in the beginning of my "color study phase" I am still trying to figure out the actual forms on the reference, rather than making them my own and/or adding and leaving out stuff as I please. I'm sure I will grow into that as I make more progress though... remember I am still a color noob :)

staticpen
that's what it's all about mate... practice practice practice... I don't have to tell you that heh. It's really nice to hear I inspire people wow!

More life drawing... seeing many mistakes so hopefully in the future I can eliminate them...
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0001_01_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0002_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0003_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0004_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0005_resize.JPG

NR43
01-21-2009, 02:26 PM
And more studies from life
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0006_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0007_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0008_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0009_resize.JPGhttp://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0010_resize.JPG

staticpen
01-21-2009, 06:14 PM
Some of those drawings are intense, duude! >: D

Deepam
01-22-2009, 02:18 PM
Lots of life drawings you have here . . looks like pencil sketches, if I am correct?

keep posting..

NR43
01-23-2009, 06:11 PM
I would like to ask anyone who has experience with selling artwork in an art gallery to please leave a message here. I have been contacted by a French Art Gallery that wants to print my work on canvas, display it in their gallery and sell it. Since I like what I see on their website, I am in communication with them but I can use a bit of handy information from experienced people. I would like to ask some things to you by pm to keep things discreet. So if you have already sold artwork in an art gallery, and you have a minute to talk to me about your experiences, please let me know and I'll pm you.
Thank you in advance.

---

I just heard on the news that some sick @#&#§ has stabbed an adult and 12 children, aged between 0 and 3 years old, in a children's daycare centre in Dendermonde (a town in Belgium). The adult and 2 babies died, the other 10 babies are heavily injured but not critical. Authorities say he had his eyes made up all black and he may have been inspired by Heath Ledger's role as the Joker in the Dark Knight.

I am therefor deleting my "Self Portrait as the Joker" painting from all my online galleries (here and at DA) and I'm considering deleting it completely from my pc as well.
I am ashamed that I ever painted this and that I took such violent looking expression in a mirror so often as a reference.

Seriously, how sick can one be to kill innocent people, babies of all!!??

My thoughts go to the families of the victims.

sirielle
01-23-2009, 06:45 PM
Horrible news :( It's not the movie guilty, the stabber must be sick psychopath. He could as well paint his face red after some comic whatever. He just used decorations fitting his plan, but the evil idea was inside of him. I haven't seen the movie, only your artwork, but Batman movies are never serious ones. But I understand the way you feel, it's possible I would not want to wear such mask on my self-portrait, either.

While the news about gallery sound great, I hope you'll have exposure and sell prints. No experience to share, unfortunately.

alenah
01-24-2009, 09:03 AM
.. yes, horrible things are happening .. and - unlike for the rest of us from outside the Belgium - most probably for you if feels much more intense, much more "real" than just like the "news" from tv .. and - I think I can understand your feelings concerning your own art too ...

neither I have seen the movie - but - I would like to second Sirielle - though movies may have for sure some influence to our lifes/feelings etc (yes, this is not easy topic at all, we could sure discuss if yes or no, or to what extent, under what circumstances etc ..) - but - in general - in my opinion - in the end of the day its not the movies themselves guilty, - what is wrong is some people´s mind, that is sick .. but - such sick people would get inspired with/by whatever anyway ...books, news, playing games, perhaps even by simple look into the kitchen fully equipped with knifes ... nothing can prevent sick mind from thinking (and unfortunatelly behaving) sick ...
the problem with movies - among the other "inspiration" - is just perhaps it is the easiest, or most comfortable, most accessible, etc .. way to "get inspired", if thinking this way ..

on the other hand - many up-to-date artworks and/or traditional great masters paintings depict violent looking expressions, violence, sorrow .. and all those bad things .. yes, it IS also a part of art - - and sure - it is a matter of choice - not only for viewers, but also for artists, what to prefer in our "artistic journeys" ..

though I would/will miss your joker-portrait ... (because for me it is but a pure piece of art, an admirable piece of art of someones/yours, as a result of dedicated effort to improve ones skills, to be better artist - especially if we are allowed to see/follow the foregoing process - which the art forums are for .. and for which reason we/I love it so much and for which reason we are here) .. at the same time - I can understand pretty well if you no more want to see/show that portrait of yours any more ..

whatever way you´ll decide in the end .. I wish your art could make your real life feel better, not worse ..
a.

yarabe
01-24-2009, 11:55 AM
... i was at work when i heard that shocking news. Unbelievable! Like Alenah said i will miss your joker-portrait because it's just a wonderful piece and shows your dedication and great skills. Don't be ashamed that you ever painted it, it's not your fault that there are people out there who can't seem to see the difference between right/wrong real/unreal and do stuff that we just can't imagine.. But i can understand that you will remove it...

I wish you a lot of succes with selling your art to an art-gallery. Of course i have no experience with it at all :) But i think there's someone out here who has. So good luck!

NR43
01-24-2009, 12:37 PM
sirielle, Alena, yarabe

yes it's sad that there are people that do not understand what is real and what is fiction.
These things are very shocking but there isn't much we can do about it, apart from being aware of what is going.

Personally, I think both tv media and parents should be well aware of the effect of everyday violence in the living room. Children get used to seeing it and it becomes harder for them to realize what is real and what is not. Perfect example is the attitude towards violence and nudity for example... a naked woman or man is the worst thing to show (while every child is born out of a woman's body), but you can buy a gun on every corner of the street. Here in Belgium, they made it harder to buy a gun by tightnening up the law, but as you see it isn't helping much. And whne you think of it, even a spoon can become a dangerous weapon in the wrong hands...

So this recent incident stimulated me to finish up the portrait of my youngest daughter. Even more because it allowed me to enjoy the peacefullness of the scene.

I dedicate this to every child in need!
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/paintings/portraits/sketch_017_028_resize.jpg
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/paintings/portraits/sketch_017_029_resize.jpg

Last week, after finishing that frog study with the palette knife, I opened up the latest saved file of this painting and it looked horribly flat and lifeless to me. I'm not that happy with the skintones of Inèz, but I'm quite pleased about how the cat turned out.
Here's a closeup of the cat:
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/paintings/portraits/sketch_017_028_detail1_resize.jpg

I really enjoyed working on this. I fell in love with the palette knife tool... you MUST try it, if you haven't already!

Original resolution is 5906 x 2953 px
I chose a res this high because I wanted to print it on canvas. But I've decided not to.
Inèz has such beautiful eyes and they are closed on this painting.
So I'm just considering it another exercise and I plan to do many more portraits of my children. We (E and I) will then choose the best 3 and print those.

yarabe
01-24-2009, 12:51 PM
i like the mood of this painting. It gives me the feeling of don't worry, there's always someone looking out for you.

alenah
01-24-2009, 01:01 PM
.. lovely girl, and lovely painting :)
looking forward for more portraits of her /your other children, a.

razz
01-25-2009, 08:24 PM
Heard about that incident, sick shit. But you know, it's not the topic to be spoken here. Not around the beautiful art you do. This last piece, so adorable! I find children very hard to draw/paint, but you seemed to have handled it very well. Kudos!
Was glad to hear about your work being printed and sold. You'll have to show us how it looks printed when you'll have one in your hands! I have a photo hanging in front of me that was printed on canvas, not the photo-paper that everyone's used to, which makes it look much nicer, for my taste at least.
Looking forward to an update!

anandpg
01-26-2009, 03:09 AM
Hey Johan! Beautiful picture!:thumbsup:
Congrats for the offer from the gallery! ..Eager to see some of your prints! I've never seen how canvas-prints of digital art looks... I am sure yours will turn out awesome!:thumbsup:

staticpen
01-26-2009, 06:56 PM
Man, what a terrible story... I think your painting is gorgeous, and very nicely serves the point of dedication you mentioned.

Cheers for the opportunity to get your work printed and displayed. :) That's pretty rad, man.

Have a good one, mate.

Gord-MacDonald
01-27-2009, 03:50 AM
nice drawings - I lke the birds :thumbsup:

NR43
01-28-2009, 02:38 PM
yarabe
That's how it should be for every child ;)

Alena
Thanks, yeah me too heh

razz
I'm still communicating with the gallery director. It's too early to say much really.
Paintings dó look better on canvas then on paper, that's for sure.
Thanks!

Hey Anand
Thanks for the tap on the shoulder, sir!
Really appreciated!

Jason
Thanks!

---
I was really struggling during life drawing this week... just tired, that's all :shrug:
Some are not too bad actually...

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0018_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0019_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0020_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0021_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0022_resize.JPG

NR43
01-28-2009, 02:40 PM
More from this week (some problematic)
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0023_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0024_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0025_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0026_resize.JPG

yarabe
01-28-2009, 02:45 PM
Hi there Johan, these are all really nice life drawings, keeps me inspired to keep practising myself. I like this one very much, nice shading it looks natural:

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0020_resize.JPG

ForzaInter
01-28-2009, 03:43 PM
Hey Johan, nice to see that you keep drawing from life, continuously!;) I wish i had the opportunity to take life drawing lessons!

How much time do you spend on each model?

razz
01-28-2009, 04:19 PM
Wow, I see improvement in this bunch of life drawings already! The longer one, which is shaded, is looking particularly good. There's this technique when drawing with the side of the pencil, which I think you might want to try out. If I remember correctly there were drawings by Erik Gist posted here, but couldn't find them (not that I looked very hard, googling it was easier), so here's a link (http://www.figurativedrawing.com/figurative_artists_gist.htm). Sort of a step away from hatching and making the drawing process more similar to painting.
Just a thought. I'm actually looking forward to your paintings :)

NR43
01-29-2009, 10:12 AM
yarabe
Thanks! I think you like the last batch of sketches more than I do :)
But I agree the one you pointed was the best sheet (least amount of mistakes)

ForzaInter
Hey man! Long time no see!
How have you been? All good I hope!
The quickies are just a couple of minutes. The longer ones are maximum 45 minutes.
Great to see you here again!

razz
Erik Gist is a real master, I adore his drawings!
I am still in the process of trying to get the figure down with flow and with the least amount of proportional errors. Only recently I am starting to move on to technique. I've been using 0.9mm and 0.5mm mechanical pencil the last couple of weeks. I'm gonna be changing media again soon, although I donnow if it will be next session ;)
Thanks for the help!


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A NEW OFDW WOOHOO! Thanks Rebecca!!! It's just what I need to spice up my portfolio!

So I am at the office now and just found out about it.
Told my colleagues and asked them to be honest and open and tell me all the characteristics they think I have.

Here's a list, just to remind myself (I also added a bunch of myself)


Animals I like:
Birds (they fly! and their aerodynamics are mindblowing),
Cats (Elegant Creatures, yet fast and good sense of balance)
Elephants (good memory, which I haven't got)
Fish (They swim so well!)
I'm a bit shy/not comfortable outside my own cocoon
big nose
not too much body hair
lot's of toothaches
very dry skin
smelly feet (idea: dead bugs laying at creature feet)
critical ( => might determine facial expression)
loves to laugh ( =>might determine facial expression)
tends to nag (= called sawing [zagen] in dutch (perhaps a saw in hand?)
always tired (lots of bags under eyes)
is a dad (props! tattoo of kids? ornamentation?...)
is punctual/perfectionist (perhaps a clock?)
is a horny b**** from time to time :p
loves to eat (anatomy!)
loves to count
loves technology
loves nature, clouds, sun,...
...
On to the thumb sketching! can't wait to get home!!

Intervain
01-29-2009, 02:24 PM
great sketches Johan :) And yay I'm so hyped about the workshop :D - looking forward to your stuff :D

Mu
01-29-2009, 03:15 PM
Oh JOhan,

you're always like a rocket, so sky-high with your progress. The life drawings are really looking promising and already accomplished at the same time.

krispee
01-29-2009, 03:23 PM
hi Johan, just been looking through your book again, great work, really coming along well.....

kris

SpiritDreamer
02-02-2009, 11:39 AM
LOTS of nice things happening in those life drawings of yours Johan..:thumbsup:

Proportions,rhythums,lighting,shadeing, shadow, and expression of feeling..:applause:

Keep up the great work and progress Johan..ALWAYS a pleasure seeing both whenever I visit your sketchbook...:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

staticpen
02-02-2009, 07:11 PM
Great sketches, man! Workin' hard...

JohanGold
02-04-2009, 12:59 PM
hi Johan it's been while :)

how are u mate ?

did u know that ur first name .. in th middle of my last name :)

ur name "Johan" ... my last name is "aljohani" hehe ..

nice poses ..


cya soon

NR43
02-06-2009, 04:14 PM
Thanks Magda, only 2 images left for me to post so I'm only posting when grayscale is finished (or as good as)

Mu
Heh too much praise for me buddy
The road ahead is so long...

Kris Thanks mate!

Glenn Thanks for visiting! ups and downs... you know how it goes... as with life I guess :)

Jason, not as hard as I'd like to (damn job LOL)

TigerJaws Thanks buddy I'm all good... busy busy ... and yes, I am everywhere LOL

Here is a selection from what I do at work when time allows...
no ref:
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0232_resize.jpg
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0233_resize.jpg
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0235_resize.jpg

ref'd
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0234_resize.jpg
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0236_resize.jpg

alenah
02-07-2009, 08:33 AM
nice doodles :)
btw - how´s your creature-self-portrait going on?
a.

vikramvr
02-07-2009, 09:18 AM
Awesome thread, love your paintings and your sketches. Nice strokes

batte812
02-07-2009, 01:46 PM
Hi Johan, keep doing these things from imagination! And keep having fun while drawing!

NR43
02-08-2009, 11:51 AM
alenah
Actually my IFW is going great... working on it as we speak.
I'm not gonna make it by thursday though. I have no time before wednesday to work on it after today :cry:

vikramvr
Thanks buddy

batte812
You bet ya!

Life drawing last week were a disaster... but hey, ya can't win 'em all, they say :D
Here's the best ones
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0058_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0059_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0060_resize.JPG

NR43
02-09-2009, 03:04 PM
I was very productive again at the office today :rolleyes:

So here's a concept that just came out of nowhere.
It is now on my ENDLESS to do list for conceptual paintings, but I'm posting this sketch here now for the record...

This is a tree of life
This tree you cannot climb, it takes us to the relevant branch without our input as our emotions are often the consequenses of events in your live.
Every soul grows his/her own tree.
However, there are some similarities for each of us:

The trunk of the tree is usually rather thin, because life is something transitory and fragile.
On the higher area's of the tree, the more positive feelings tend to be found.
On the lower area's of the tree, the more negative feelings tend to be found.
The more parts of the tree one has seen, the more experienced one shall be considered.
It is interesting to see that each individual we know is often seen in certain area of his or her tree...

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/sketchbook/Image0237_resize.jpg

I plan for the faces to be rather universal, without much hairstyles or makeup or difference in proportions. After all, in our minds we are all the same, and this is more about expressions and how universal they are. I would like to keep away from too much detail with this piece... not have any idea for a particular style yet... will have to see where it takes me :)

NR43
02-09-2009, 03:07 PM
IFW update:

got the crit that the pose is too stiff (which is definitely so) so I started searching for a more dynamic pose.

This will probably be the pose I'll give myself... It will take a lot of work to change everything and I'm a bit worried I'll loose the dynamics of the fins but I can only try :)

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/workshops/IFW_001/Image0239_resize.jpg

I gotta run off to school now... ciao

alenah
02-09-2009, 04:45 PM
wow Johan, you never stop - not even at work in between other work of yours or your school, lol, a real artist you are :)

the tree of life looks like amazing idea to depict, and nice start on that already;
thinking about this topic for a while brings up new and new ideas ... nice concept;
I am curious about where this may bring you ..

btw - another "wow" for your IFW project,
I liked the first pose, I have to say, the "body-language" was "communicating" with the viewer pretty nicely, to my eyes, looked to me as if you (the creature) were kind of "thinking/checking the situation" just before whatever may happen in the very next moment ... I liked it, indeed, incl. the face expression ..
(I only could see some proportion issues with the forehead/top of the head);
and - I also like your basic light-scheme, it needs one more (weaker) light source, your are right, but the overal feeling is fine, imo ..

well - whatever you´ll decide for in the end, I am looking forward to anyway ..

p.s. you were asking about the difference between "color" and "colorize" composite methods in Painter - (in fact - these are not the only way how to colorize the image, btw)
I´ll try to explain the main difference between those two at least:

"colorize" alters/influences/changes only the "color" information;
it is adding or removing it (visually) from the underneath layer(s) (depending on what you are painting with, painting with non-color information has an opposite, = decolorizing/desaturation effect);

"color" (not very logic terminology to me) alters/influences/changes not only the "color" information, but ALSO the luminance information -

so - in other words -
while working in "colorize" layer, you are able to keep all your "whites" of the underneath image (and you only are adding/removing the color information, basically)
but - with "color" you are not, since you are not only adding/removing only the color, but ALSO altering the luminance information at the same time - which may result in overall darkening/"dirtening" effect (together with the "coloring" effect); somewhat similar to Multiply, but weaker effect here, not very good for post-colorizing the image ...

and - note - the "color" composite method in Painter is NOT the same as "color" blending mode in Photoshop;
hope my English makes sense,
a.

staticpen
02-09-2009, 04:50 PM
Great pen work, Johan. :D And those life drawings are getting visibly better every single page... Hard work pays off!

Interesting idea with the tree. Is that the whole concept drawn out, or are you fleshing it out with different ideas for composition and whatnot?

As far as the pose, you've got a nice angle with the shoulder and neck, but the pelvis is parallel to the floor. You might get a lot more rhythm and movement in the pose if you counterbalance the hips with the shoulders, as you see models do a lot when they pose.

Looking forward to more, as always! Have a good one.

NR43
02-10-2009, 04:18 AM
Thanks Alena and Jason for the helpful comments!

Alena
yes I think I confused the color layer usage in Painter with the coloring method in photoshop, which one finds described in most online tutorials. Thanks for clarifying things. I will try the difference between colorize and color in Painter as soon as I get the chance!

Jason
This is my first visualization of the Tree of Life.
Just putting the idea down on paper so I don't forget.
I want more heads on it eventually (to show a wider pallet of emotions/expressions) and a more tree-like appearance, also will play a lot with color in this one for sure.
I've got many more ideas waiting to be drawn but I just don't seem to have the time to do so yet. Thanks for the great crit concerning the pelvis area... it's weird that someone as pelvis-orientated (LOL whatever that means), I seem to have many problems with drawing the pelvis. It's important though as that's where the flow of the gesture is determined in all directions (imho).

ARGH I so want to PAINT and I'll be stuck here making invoices and credit notes all day again! Money is the worst thing to need bleh. So I apologize for not posting an image with my reply (I hate that).

Heozart
02-10-2009, 10:38 AM
Hey Johan,

It just became clear to me that you need to teach me how to stay motivated. Seriously, your consistency amazes me. Even finding time to draw at work, that is dedication. :thumbsup:

Awesome job on the painting of your daughter and the cat! It is beautiful. When you paint with the palette knife, do you manually change the angle of the brush when you see the need, or do you assign it to the pen? I just played around, and looks like assigning it to "bearing" works best for me. I have tried out the directional brushes in photoshop in the past, and I never could get quite comfortable with those.

I love the frog and the bird studies. Looking forward to seeing more of those. ;)

I like the tree concept. It will be interesting to see how it develops.

Hope you get off work soon so you can go home and paint. :)

NR43
02-10-2009, 02:31 PM
Hey Wes
Thanks man!
The palette knife, I don't seem to be able to turn it manually? How can that be done?
I played with bearing/tilt etc as parameter for the angle but I mostly use it in it's standard position o_O

I'm off work now but I have to help the kids with their homework now, feed them, do the dishes, and then off to school

Here's last night's drawings from school
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0061_resize.JPG
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0062_resize.JPG

ballpen (yay... been a while)
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/school/year_03/DSC_0063_resize.JPG

vincent1
02-10-2009, 02:55 PM
Hey Johan, been looking through your thread. Your progress over the last year have been very evident.

Some of your life drawings are very well observed while sometimes you seem to revert back to symbolism; even in the same life session.

Something that has helped me is to be ruthless in being accurate in observed proportions and measured angles and maintaining this discipline in imaginary drawings too.

Without fail, whenever I try to slack off, my drawings will will revert back to symbolism and thus look amateurish.

You mentioned that you are sometimes mentally tired during the life sessions; and it is reflected in your drawings. I suppose you will have to discipline your mind and eyes in this area.

Mu
02-10-2009, 04:28 PM
ARGH I so want to PAINT and I'll be stuck here making invoices and credit notes all day again!

Man. You are working and visiting art school?

How crazily dedicated is that?

I never really inquired what your plan is. What kind of art school is that? Are you going for a degree? What do you want to achieve? And is your day job a full-time job?
Sorry for being so nosey, but I feel I didn't really grasp the depth of your commitment...o.0

Heozart
02-11-2009, 01:38 AM
Johan, you are right, I can't change the angle manually either. I was thinking of the photoshop brushes. I wonder why the slider for changing the angle is greyed out? :shrug:

NR43
02-11-2009, 04:44 AM
vincent1
Hi there! Great to see you here in my humble cave :)
Yes it's true, there is a lot that can be improved in my drawings, a lot. Life drawings have boosted my skills already, but I've only been doing this for a short while.
You're right that the best drawings are the ones that are made without fear of failure.
The good thing is I will live forever and I will have plenty of time to become a better draftsman!
So keep checking here every now and then... it should be better each time (at least that's the intention LOL)
Thanks for the help!

Mu
Heh yeah, 3rd year now. (total drawing program is 5years + 2 optional years of specialization)
It's only a local academy, but they have great teachers and I've learned heaps already.
You don't get a diploma or anything when graduating, but it's cheap (183EUR and I get 50% reduction because I have a daytime job). It allows me to do life drawing every monday and tuesday evening between 18h30 and 22h. If I were 20 now and didn't have gf and kids, I would most definitely go to a "real" school though.
My job is fulltime, yes. I can start my day between 06:00h and 10:00h
I usually get up at 05h and start at 06h, this way I'm able to pick up the kids from school myself. I usually work towards 2 deadlines at the end of the month, so I am able to choose my own workflow. Monthly deadlines also mean very quiet times at the office sometimes (just after those deadlines have passed). So I have time to browse cgtalk and sketch now and then...
Anyway, so I finish work at 14h, then it's straight to the store to buy food n stuff. Picking up the kids afterwards, helping them with homework, cooking, dishes, and off to the academy until 22hr.
When no school, I take E out on the streets to teach her how to drive the car.
I also ride my bycicle whenever I can, a matter of staying healthy...
Anything else you wanted to know? Just ask :scream:

NR43
02-11-2009, 12:30 PM
Reworking the pose for my IFW entry.
Trying to add a more dynamic pose while maintaining a flow in the fins

Now that I've scanned it, I see more things to correct... my butt looks all weird now -while it looked quite good without the fins actually :p

The left forearm and hand need work as well.

Considering that I drew this sketch without reference, apart from checking some muscles in Barcsay's anatomy for the artist, I'm doing well I think...
I'll put this image in painter on a new layer and see what gives...

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/workshops/IFW_001/Image0241_resize.jpg