WIP: Mortal Kombat Scorpion

[ts-falcon]

man i love scorpion, looking pretty good so far. the arms and upper body seem a little thing, i think thats what is throwing it off. only other crit is the pointy hood, right now it almost looks like hes off to a KKK meeting ( well maybe not that extreme) but if i remember correctly the ninjas in MK all their hoods were form fitting. looks a little wierd but its only minor, the textures seem kinda flat and lifeless but thats hopefully cause they are a WIP, nice work so far :D

[ssjchrono]

Hello,

The legs are incorrect. Take a look at it from the side and then look at it from the front. The anatomy of the legs are incorrect from the front view, the side however looks good. The biggest anatomy problem is the edge loop just below the knee. I don't know how well the mesh flow will work when you animate, but you should revise the anatomy of the legs in regards to the front view (XY plane? or ZY?) Other than that its good, I agree with the textures being flat, but like the previous poster said, that could be cause of WIP.

[ShadyD]

Thnx for the comments

@ts_falcon: hahaha KKK huh? he has the pointy thing though.. maybe ill move its vertices to be less pointy but still have a disturbance , here is a pic proving my point his overmask had a pointy part http://art-of-hobby.de/ueber_mich/Mortal%20Kombat/Bilder%20Mortal/The%20new%20Scorpion%20in%20Mortal%20Kombat.JPG

@ssjchrono: Hm yes i get what you mean with that leg looking off, ill play around with it.
Oh dont worry about the legs deforming awfully =) I made the base first than added in some folds.. Minimum PC was 2000 triangles, its barely 2100 now with swords..


Oh and if anyone is wondering the swords say:
Wrath Spectre and Fiery Hell

[Psyk0]

Whatup D?

Besides the above comments, you should take a closer look at his foot, get some references from the web, always do research!

Get some pics of ninja boots or whatever, the foot should be wider than the ankle, it's wider at the toes and gets thinner as it reaches the ankle.

The proportions of the face needs to be revised, the eyes are too wide for the current head width, and the nose looks way too big. His lower body seems a bit small compared to the chest.

[ShadyD]

Fixed the legs (I hope)
textured the pants, chest, sides, arms
made a little beauty scene
added a quick rig
is it finished? Depending on the crits i get.. =/
2100 triangles including swords.
Oh btw the swords say: Wrath Spectre and Fiery Hell
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/439/scorpionfreakinawesome6bl.jpg
The scene

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/3064/scorpionfire4gi.jpg
cameraview?

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/3420/scorpionmaybe1jl.jpg
a little pose

C&C Plz =)

[edit]: Gah didnt see your post Psyko, will work on that, thnx!

[jfalconer]

Crits: I think part of whats throwing off the proportions is the size and position of his eyes. They are too big and should be slightly lower. His legs look a little strange, check out this wikipedia entry on quads (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quads). Textures have some issues, mainly the black of his costume is too dark. If you look at screens from the more recent MKs, you'll see they have some slightly brighter values to indicate folds in the cloth. Another little tidbit, the Japanese text on his sword doesn't look engraved, but pasted on - this should be a quick fix in the 'shop. Here is a quick paint over to show you what I mean about the head:

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c113/jfalconer/scorpionfrontside4ik.jpg

As with the character, you would also need to spend more time on the background, right now it is looking a little cheap. Spend some time getting acquainted with dirt, dust, cracks, and other details to beautify that metallic arena.

[ShadyD]

okay, i've changed the skin texture, face, arm and mask.. i have no idea what to do with the yellow flaps.
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8578/scorpionhead1fp.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2742/scorpionupper6aj.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5868/scorpionlower7bs.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4338/texturecopy3ha.jpg

Next up are the mesh changes

[Ramza24]

Like the earlier poster said, problems with the visible part of the face. His mask isnt big enough, eyes are too big. One other thing (might just be me) is that his eyes seem too turned to the side, like a horse.

Here's Scorpie's face proportions from Shaolin Monks:

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i114/Ramza24/scorphead.jpg


You also might want to work some more detail into that texture (seams in cloth, wear and tear, etc). Keep it up!

[ShadyD]

Okay i made allot of the changes mentioned.
*eyes less horse-like from the side
*smaller eyes
*bigger mask
*bigger toes
*scaled from hipsdownwards with 105%

more mesh changes needed?

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/5360/scorpiontweaked9bw.jpg

[edit]
*moved his eyes a bit towards eachother hopefully fixing the proportional mistake everyone has been mentioning.. its hard to model a face with no refs =/

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/127/scorpionface7vx.jpg

[GLandolina]

Yep its especially visible in that last pic the eyes look very strange from the front,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/ghlpics/paintover2.jpg
there's a quick paintover but even that isnt really any good, but it shows how people are saying to move the eyes. i think the head and mask are simply out of proprtion and a remodel is wanted because you seemed to have moved the eyes correctly from the side but not the front, also unless your going for a super cartoony look then use some overlays and dirty him up like i said on the other forum :)


EDIT:
right you edited while i edited :P
face seems better now, but about no reference? use some! he's still only a human guy, model a human head, generic one and then put the mask over it cause he's no different to you or me, get an asian person reference image from 3d.sk or whatever the sites are and do it :)

[ShadyD]

Haha, nice timing.
yknow i was just asking myself as well why i didnt use any refs for the face XD
for the head i used this
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8051/male3it.jpg

[ShadyD]

Man, this is sooo half-assed...doesnt do justice to scorpion either =(
I hate it when i have to rush things...
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3092/24dp1.jpg
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2990/14gt4.jpg
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8438/polycount4qx.jpg
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7194/texturecopy3qk.jpg
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4383/swordcopy0vo.jpg

.. well that was it.. half-assed..yes..ah well..
I made a video again =) just like with naruto :P this time much cooler though..
check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6aqvVEw-iw

[Ramza24]

Hehe saw your video.. I thought Scorpion was a killer.. 'twas pretty sweet how he beats up the viewer like that, but you should definitely make it longer. I was expecting him to do an uppercut or something.

As for the mesh, his arms (especially the tricep part) seem to be sticking out too far from his torso kind of like a toy action figure. Maybe add some loops to define his lower leg, and his feet look a lil' flat like they were smashed. Oh, and his swords just float there, how are they connected to his back?

It's looking a hell of a lot better though. I think the bigger issue now is the detail in his clothing. The yellow vest part and his belt could use some elaborating...
Actually, I know it would mean changing everything up, but if you had more of the texture be asymmetrical that would look great. The model's looking very same-y on both sides.
You could use two smaller textures for that.

You're wrong tho', I think it does justice to Scorpion. Shouldn't be too hard on yourself - just keep plugging away at it.

[ShadyD]

I am definetly going to keep working on him untill im satisfied, i just had to finish him before today for a contest. But i'll keep working on him , thnx for the motivation! =)

[HHH316]

Looks good, more of a cartoony scorpion but I do like it a lot, well done.

[requiem2d]

Good stuff, maybe give the eyes a small black inner-glow. Keep it up :)

[ShadyD]

Wow, this one is old.. 7 months or so..
Inspires me to do a new scorpion.. hopefully a much better one =).
Dominance war first though!

Never the less, thanks for the reply's and C&C!

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