Races of Middle Earth - Character - Sir_Manfred

[Izu]

oohoohoohoho..special special special :D :bounce: :wavey: :drool:


good thing it´s a wip...belly needs ALOT o work....i´m saying this as your friend damn it.....gimmi your 19" lcd allready...f00' or do i have to come over there n steal it ? :P

[Izu]

Is the stomach filled with gAS ?

[erilaz]

Very good features! What's up with his stomach? Too much soup?

I love the detail already put in to this!:D

[foenix]

Good model !

[leigh]

w00t that's an awesome more, Sir Manfred! :thumbsup: Oh, and a great concept too!! Looking forward to seeing the back story too :)

Are you using Lightwave? That looks a bit like a LW render. If so, you should check out that FIs_wrinkle plugin (http://www.infoseek.livedoor.com/~f_ichikawa/) to add cool details into the body ;) I love the ears! :D

What might be cool, and to add some extra detail to that very cool bent neck, would be to add the spinal bones sticking out - I'd imagine that the spine would be taking quite a lot of pressure from the weight of the head, and it might be cool to show that by having the skin pulled tight over the spinal column :)

[SirManfred]

Thanks people! :)

Leigh: Im not using LW... its Max all the way :) I have thought about the spinal thingy you mentioned and i thought that i would come to details like that when the general body proportions is done :) Thanks again for your reply.

[lildragon]

Heya very cool character like I said to ya earlier. THe only thing I would work on right now, is giving that gut some gravity :)

Looking forward to more

salud

[SirManfred]

Thanks lil D' :)

Here is an update for you people, not a big one, but a fair one... :D

http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip16x.jpg
http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip17x.jpg

Thanks for any replies and stuff like that. :)




The background story:
These are the Murdûk people :) They are a constant travelling people. Althou, they sit all the time. They sit on the backs of giant lizzard like creatures. (Wich i will also model) Its common for this race to have rather big bellys, thats because they dont move much and doesn't have many eating breaks. Since they sit almost all the time, they have developed these odd crooked backs. That is for getting them a nice and comfy sit.

[SimonReeves]

very nice fred :)

cant wait to see a nice texture on him + his equiptment

[etimpa]

Looking pretty good, the texture is gonna play a huge part in this. What ya got planned??

Nice work as usual manfred :)

[MDB101]

All is good for a start of a begining ;) good thing that your just putting the basics in first then deal with the realism later. as long as you get your basics down on that model then do what ever u can think of :)

Keep it comming don't give up man :)

[SirManfred]

Thanks mates.
Please! More crits. I would like to hear if you have any ideas for stuff to add to this charater :)

Anyways... here is a test animation i did :)
http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/flextest.avi (86KB)
Enjoy :)

And regards!

[Remi]

Looking good Sir....keep it up:thumbsup:

[SirManfred]

Thanks Remi :)

Last update for tonight... gotta get some nice, cozy sleep :)

http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip18.jpg
http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip19.jpg


Regards!

[Titan]

youre getting good bro...!!!!! it shows...you've come along way ....keep it up and I want to see this guy finished!!!:bounce:

[leigh]

That's looking good :thumbsup: I like the addition of the spine bumps - very cool ;) Although they do need some tweaking in terms of their shape - at the moment, they just look like warts or something. Spinal bones have a very specific shape, but I'm sure you are going to do that anyway :)

Cool stuff though, looking forward to the next update :D

[Remi]

Looking awesome...such detail from one post to the next...great job Sir...you're really kicking ass on this one..keep it up:thumbsup:

[SirManfred]

Allright... only one more last render. GI this time... but then i gotta go to sleep!
http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip23.jpg


Remi: Thanks alot, man :D

I must hurry, hurry, hurry! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[urgaffel]

So where's that background story eh? ;)

[SirManfred]

You missed it?
Its in my third post to this thread :D :D

[SirManfred]

Here is a spinning gif!
http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/spin02.gif

[ACFred]

Hey Manfred,

That is one sexy beast! The feet are my favorite so far, but the whole thing is really solid. I think the guy needs to eat something, though. Looks like his belly is suffering from malnourishment. Maybe he can eat a hobbit to start and work his way up the food chain.

For such a big belly, I think he may need a more severe crease underneath, but since it probably won't be seen under clothing, it's not a big deal. Just a detail thing.

Keep it up, man. Let's see those hands!

Alec

[SirManfred]

Aaaaand we have clothes! :D
http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip24.jpg

[anthony_rjs]

Looks awesome, manfred :thumbsup:
I especially like the feet and the head, and yeah, i agree with ACfred - that belly needs some gravity, he looks pregnant, rather than fat. but thats a minor issue. really good overall :)

[SirManfred]

Been fiddlin'
http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip26.jpg

[Virtuoso]

I think it's looking very very good Sir Manfred.................... I believe as you progress you should keep thinking.....Iregularity as much as possible. As Leigh mentioned with the spine and for other detailed subjects within your creatures furthur developement. Nice toe nails, well featured head,etc,etc...nice everything actually. It's already impressive,but I can see lots more in the potential department still to come.

I can see the modeling is going very well,I'll just be around to remind you all about the extra details as they become needed,or the keeping things off balanced a bit or more irregular and non manufactured.

Well see you soon,very nice thus far.:thumbsup: :beer:

[SirManfred]

Virtuoso: Thanks for your reply, mate. I looked at your "iregularity"-advice a bit. I took away the 2nd arm protection woody thingy and added a shoulder shield instead. Same style though. I have plans to add somekind of a leather bag later on. He will get his walking stick and he will probably get his creature to sit on.

http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip27.jpg



Oh... and here is another spin just for the fun of it :)

http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/spin03.gif

[Virtuoso]

Excellent. I think we can talk intricate details on this wonderful creature in a while,right now just keep getting the main parts done. It's really an impressive model Sir Manfred. See you after your next update. Keep :wip: :wip:

:beer: :thumbsup:

[SirManfred]

Some more details... bolts to the wooden armor pieces...
A pair of nipples...
A bag..
Added some extra wrinkles to the feet...
som small tweakin...

http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip29.jpg
http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip30.jpg
http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip31.jpg

Cheers!
:bounce:

[Fetus23]

:bounce: :bounce:
I'm really liking this Sir_Manfred! Waiting to see what else you have in store for us..

:beer:

[Black Mariah]

A couple of things are calling for extra detail. The sides and back of the neck seem too smooth and need some wrinkles or warts or some kinf of foldy bumpy things. The line on his face that runs right above his jaw to up under his cheekbones is a bit harsh, maybe smoothing that out would look better. And he needs some kind of helmet. Looks badass so far. Everything else from here out is extra. :D

[MDB101]

basterd! I have to catch up with my character :) anyways yes its awesome as usual :) think the belly can use more attention though..i dont know..but somethin missing there? its too bloated and perfeclty round :) other then that keep it up man ;)


*drinks my coke*

[OZ]

U ROX A LOT AND MORE MAN!!:applause:

[Gandalf]

Great modelling skill you have there!
I like the model!:thumbsup:

[Joril]

It's starting to look very good Sir_Manfred!
Just keep adding more details.
Like straps for the armour, wrinkels and warts like was suggested.
Keep it up!:thumbsup:

[SirManfred]

Well well well... time for another update :)

I want to thank you all for such kind replies and also for your help in crits and stuff... dont hessitate to post if you have something to say about this that could make it even better :)

http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip37.jpg
http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip38.jpg
http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip39.jpg

Cheers! :bounce:

[Mentat7]

That is looking really great...don't know if I would change anyting. I will have to wait and see how the final texture turns out first. I love those toenails!

[SirManfred]

http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/vesttexex.jpg

[Virtuoso]

Well it's coming along very well Sir..........:thumbsup:

My only thoughts for the time being would be the toe nails.............It's just a minor tweak for extra realism purposes,and not a knock on what you have so far,because they are really well done to this point.

But to give them that out of this World level of high level details I would go the Crooked or curved route just a bit with them. A slight bend,a slight curve,a slight chip to each toe nail,all different,all scaled a slight touch in size.Try and avoid the cookie cut look,the instance it all look,make it look more like real World toe nails from a creature,irregular all the way. Well that's it for now,I think you have a very fine creature thus far,and am looking forward to more.Fine job Sir Manfred.:thumbsup: :beer:

[SirManfred]

Here is an update

http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip41.jpg

[leigh]

Looking cool so far! :)

Crits I have though would be that some parts of the skin (particularly the arms) are looking a little too blotchy. Skin can be blotchy but not so randomly so. Also, the skin seriously needs a bump map now - especially on the legs, they really need some more detail!
His clothes also need more detail - not so much the waistcoat, because that looks cool, but the shorts need a lot more detail. Add some seams along the bottom, with stitches or something.

The only other thing that bugs me is that some of your shadows are very black - try and elimate those, because such dark shadows don't really suit this character :)

[SirManfred]

Phanks Leigh :D

http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip55.jpg

http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip56.jpg

[AgentX]

That looks great! I liked his whiter toenails better though. The leather is great, and his skin texture looks awesome.

The eyes are freakin me out...

[SirManfred]

Woooo!
http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip57.jpg

[Fetus23]

Your texture work is looking very nice sir_manfred...I especially like the vest...:thumbsup: ..Do you have anymore modeling plans?
I think a few more details could make him look even cooler!!

:beer:
fetus

[SirManfred]

Fetus: Thanks, mate. Yeah, more stuff is coming :) Im gonna add some more details as soon as i can think of what kind of details there will be. And if i have time i will model his creature!

[SirManfred]

Another update.. a few things made.

http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip61.jpg

Here is a highres version of this pic:
1280x1024 (http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip61H.jpg)

Cheers!

[Neox]

nice texture work! really good, me likes :thumbsup:

[SirManfred]

Thanks :)

Here is another image/update:
http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip62.jpg

[SirManfred]

Oh... and a back render:
http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip63.jpg

[SirManfred]

http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/cgcwip66.jpg

[leigh]

Now that I see the face full on and quite big, I think that it definitely needs more details in the texturing - especially in the colour and bump maps - the key word is VARIATIONS! ;)

Also, the wrappings on his arms legs need some more textures too :)

I think the model looks great though :D

[Slot]

Hey, beatifull work. Very original.

I can see he likes beer a lot. :beer:

The modeling seem to be very good and clean.

I don't think that in this level of the work you would come back to change something, but if you could put some ribs signs or marks it would break the smooth profile of his stomach.

But the work is really amazing, this is just a thought.

Wating for more posts of yours.

[SirManfred]

This time there is no new render...
although. i have been playing around with this lil animation.
I thought i had to test this movement.
Keep in mind that its the first time i animate a character.
http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/move.avi

[killahsin]

haha nice little animation for a first time doing it =)

[Neox]

could we take a look on youre texturemaps?

[Titan]

hey manfred, my old friend!

youre model looks really sweet, but I think it could use a little help to push it over the edge and give it that little extra bit of detail that really sells it.

I dont claim to be any expert but I'm just gonna mention the things that stick out to me.

first thing I would do would be to look at it objectively and try to imagine youre model in an ACTUAL scene of LOTR. Ask yourself what is it missing? Are the textures as good as the ones seen in the movie, look at the layers of detail they have on orcs and other critters. also look at the level of modelling detail in the movie and compare it to yours.

The orcs, for instance, have tons of miscellaneous attachements and primitive looking jewelry or weapons, random dirt or paint;
I also think that the insides of the elbow joint and the knees could use a little more detailing to sell it. Maybe some veins in the arms, his arms look very strong despite his belly, so maybe detail out the arms just a bit more. maybe increase the hand size just a bit.

But this is by far one of the best models I've seen you do, great job!!!! good luck in the competition!

[Neox]

Oh come on, how fancieless is that? Why does he need to use the movie for reference? His own interpretation is what is relevant, not the Weta interpretation don't you think? Whats with some sort of comic interpretation, is that totally wrong just because it doesn't look like the Weta version? :rolleyes:

Hope you know what i mean...

[Titan]

wow, blasted for my opinion...imagine that.....

my apologies manfred

...disregard everything I said......
granted I have not read your entire post, but if you are truly going for a comic or stylized version, then you got it down bro...

I do believe my crit clearly defined that it was MY own PERSONAL opinion...

[Neox]

nonono i didn't want to annoy you, there where just my thoughts about it, you made yours, and these where mine :p
maybe he thinks like you, but i guess if he wanted that style maybe its good like it is, and it has not to loke like the Wetastyle, its just a matter of personnel taste i guess

this was no attack against YOUR own PERSONAL oppinion, just my thoughts about your post, maybe you are right and i am wrong, and maybe me english is just too bad and you don't even understand what i was trying to say ;)

hope you don't mind...

[ki oku]

kindergarten :rolleyes:

neox, nothing to work? :scream:

[Titan]

manfred is an old friend, since I am not participating in this challenge his is the ONLY thread I have commented on because he is a friend.

I meant no offense...and none taken......all is well in the CG world:)

[CGSisdead]

cool work :thumbsup:

that wooden armor is a great idea.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

looks cool all the way:bounce:

The only thing i would like different is the texture on his shorts...but that is just me....

He will be fun to animate!!!!

[SirManfred]

Thanks for your comments! :)

Titan: I know what you are saying. I myself think that he does lack some more details and and "stuff". But i have no idea what to add.

DimitrisLiatsos: I share your oppinion about the shorts :) I'll see what i can do.

Took a break from the Murdûk. Meanwhile i have been working on the environment that i will place him in.
C&C welcome. :)
http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/env11.jpg

[SirManfred]

Another test :)

http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/env12.jpg

[Fetus23]

looking really smooth mr. manfred but like i said bfore...more rubble would be cool :)...can't wait to see your character grace the scene your making....

model upwards!!
:beer:
fetus

[SirManfred]

Fetus: Things'll come

http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/scene02.jpg

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Hi ...great grass ....just make it more dark and less luminant....i think!!!!:wavey: :thumbsup:

[Dreamwave]

looks cool! maybe you can place him closer to the edge so it looks more like he's looking out over the see

[SirManfred]

DimitrisLiatsos: Thanks, i made it more yellowish. I'll probably add different kinds of grass and some flowers.

Dreamwave: Nah, i dont think i want to make him look out over the sea... he dont like water ;)

http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/scene03.jpg

I have made the grass more dense so the edge of the rock in this pic wont be there when i have rendered the latest render.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce: :thumbsup:

flowers and some plants would be great!

I will try to find some ref pics for u of seaside cliffs with plants!:wip:

[AgentX]

Looks good. I like that grass.

[SirManfred]

I cant really post any new images since i cant even render them.
The scene got to complex and now max crashes on me each time i try to render.
So this is probably over now... at least for me.

[iC4]

try to render the grass extra and composite it?

[JoeConnolly]

Beutiful Work

[SirManfred]

And the final image.
http://gngd.jaggedpath.com/wip/murdukfinal02.jpg

[Fetus23]

Hey Manfred!!...Your character has turn out really nice...I would have really liked to see him amongst those ruins but this will do I guess :D...Good stuff mate, I love his feet :).

model onward!!!!

:wavey:

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