Races of Middle Earth - Character - fetus

[mv]

Go Fetus go! you know I love your style! :beer:

[leigh]

Hey, that's AWESOME!! :thumbsup:
That is just such a cool creature! I love it!

[Fetus23]

Alright!!...Thanks M@ and Leigh!! Glad you like the start of him.
Here a little update!!

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth7.jpg

:beer:

[eirenicon]

Now that's one insane character design :beer:

Looks awesome, now get us some background info on this guy!

[dur23]

:D:D
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

go fetus!

Love em as always....You gots to texture this one tho!!!!

[fellah]

ahahahahaha!!! so funny it made me laugh out loud! :D
but I liked your sketch more! maybe try to push the eyes closer together, making the eyes a tiny bit bigger or something.
also the ears are to close to his eyes, maybe you wan't it that way, but I think you should balance it a bit more and pull them a bit back so there's not so much "backhead" without anything. but I'm not sure about my last suggestion, might look cool with the 'hat'! just throwing ideas your way :)

take care

[Totitch]

Same critics than the Bastard...(Fellah i mean!)

Eyes are better on the sketch! Work more on the mesh to find the Goofy look you did on the draw!
Funny character! But what about the body? You didn't draw it!

For the ears, just push them back a little!

Really funny! I will take a look at it!

[Alice]

omg, plz let me yank thos dingelidangeli things!
gj!
:beer:
/Alice

[CHRiTTeR]

LOL, Lord of the rings meets starwars in a comic kinda way...


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[Odrakir]

Oh! it's Gollum's dumb cousin.

I love it, great work :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[dakmoden]

Wow Fetus :applause: That's a great character design. Really original and unique style. Can't wait to see more!

[fleedawg]

I have to agree with fellah on the eyes. They need to be bigger! They're the best part and make the character more comical. Also can't wait for the back story since it sounds like a pretty silly guy.

[Fetus23]

Thank you all very much for the ideas!!!...I'm really happy all you artists like him so far....I will put all the crits to work soon, but for now a small update and some history on the fellow...

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth8.jpg

-Gizzards-

-The Gizzards are thieves. articles of fabric are their main ambition, but pieces of gold are often sought, which is then used to fashion ear-rings and other jewlery. The gizzards are the evolved ancestors of a breed of lizards called Gillatronons. The Gillatronons once flourished in middle earth, but as the reign of terror passed by, as it does every 3600 years, the Gillatronons, under a canopy of flames were forced into the process of evolution. The comet that causes the shift of earth every 3600 years will return, causing yet another change.....
c.l.n.t.

fetus
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[Fetus23]

WiRE ::

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/wire1.jpg

:beer:

[dur23]

Im liking them wires G.
That story is good too. hehe. Planet X. hehe. We're gonna diiiiieeeeee.

Keep rockin it sucker.



:buttrock:

[Fetus23]

Dur23: lets call it Planet Y, after all, this is middle earth ;)

alright... another little update...

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth12.jpg

gotta work faster!!! :wip: :wip:

:beer:

[Wiz]

lol
this guy is so funny :)
i just look at him i laugh..wow thoese some crazy nippeles :eek:

great job bro

[Fetus23]

Thanks wiz!! Smiles are fun!!! :D

finally got the body blocked in....

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/wire2.jpg

I think i'll give him a tail soon....clothing is on the way aswell!!


fetus
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[ChrRambow]

Cool and funny style! I love it very much.
He need some rings and a chain for his nipples ;)

[dur23]

haha planet y.....fetus is a crazy bitch

[Mentat7]

That is look great Fetus. I like the look on his face and those eyes are just precious! ;)

[levin]

err... o_O

jarjaromir?

[mv]

Just great, Fetus! Keep it up :beer:

[Fetus23]

Thanks for the good response everyone!!...Lets just all hope i can texture this thing when the time comes...I'm gonna try hard :)

an update!!

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth17.jpg

and another...

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth18.jpg

:beer:
fetus

[eddy-3ddy]

It already looking great, without the textures. Nice, I wanna see what textures could do here

[Fetus23]

Alright, one more update before the weekends over....not sure what to do with his feet...think i might give him sandles to show off his toes....what do you think??

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth22.jpg

:beer:
fetus

[eddy-3ddy]

Ow yes, very nice:applause:

[leigh]

Fetus, that is looking fantastic :)

The only major crit I really have is that certain areas still look a wee bit boxy - like the fingers, and the abs. However, that won't take much tweaking to fix :)

You could possibly benefit from roughing things up a bit too - don't make everything so perfect! Those cool stitches down the front of his pants - they were obviously done by hand, so make them a bit higgeldy-piggeldy. Perhaps even have one of the threads missing?

His waistcoat is also a bit too straight-cut. Have a look at the waistcoat that Shrek wore - it's all nice and round :)

Give your stuff a more rustic look by adding more curves to the overall shapes of things.

Since he looks like he travels a lot, make sure that when you continue with the texturing, that you add mended tears and rips in his clothing, and add little patches here and there were he has had to patch his clothing. IF you look closely at Aragorns clothing in the LOTR films, you'll notice that his costume if full of little mended areas. It just gives the viewer a nice sense of where the character has been and gone :)

I can't help but think that this guy is Middle Earths version of Crocodile Dundee!! :D

[dies-irae]

fantastic, it's got a lot of character!

only almost crits: the forehead was a bit shorter on the first images, i liked it a bit more, with the hat though, it rocks anyway!


keep posting!!

[mv]

Weeee! Fetus! you know I love your hats!:beer:

[dur23]

You crazy sucker! You should be a fashion designer! You could call yourself fetusini! Crazy sucker....:D Love the hat BTW. I agree with leigh tho. Mess that mofo up.

[Lukashi]

Good stuff! :applause:

[Fetus23]

Alright!!!

Time for some much need replies :

Leigh: Wow!! Thank you for the really good crits!! I do have to mess him up. I see that being a running theme in most of my models , I need more randomness in my 3D work to match my traditional stuff. Definatly something to do here, and in future works. I hope this update is a little better, I've tried to ruffle his cloths up a bit....Once again thank you for the very good advice!

dies-irae : Thank You!! :).

M@ : mmmmm magical hats.....:surprised

dur23: Thanks dir23!! Fashion..hmmm...is that done in 3d now??...messing him up now.....

Lukashi : Thanks mate!!

And heres a little update...trying to "mess him up".....Still have to work on his forearms, hands, feet, weapons, backpack, more trinkets and ropes....and perhapes a companion beast...

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth25.jpg

keep em coming!!!

:beer:

[Fetus23]

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth26.jpg

finger and toe nails coming soon...

fetus..

[Fetus23]

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/wire3.jpg

changed his pants to a tunic/skirt...I think it fits him better...

C&C always welcome!!!

:beer:

fetus

[nadeemmar]

:eek: awesome ...

really love the clothes:bounce: :bounce:

keep going:thumbsup:

[Mentat7]

For some reason the theme song from "Deliverance" keeps coming to mind when I look at this guy. This shaping up wonderfuly Fetus!! But...are those bullets on his belt?:eek: :)

[Fetus23]

nadeemmar: Thanks man, I will!! :)

Mentat7: Thank you!! Don't worry there're not bullets. :) No bullets in middle earth. Lets call them magic capsules for regaining health, energy, or magic....oh yes, he can use magic...

Heres another wire view :

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/wire4.jpg

c/c always welcome!!!

:beer:

[OZ]

WOW GANDALF THE UGLY!!!! he he he he...hem..sorry ;)
splendid! I like a lot the clothing.ur character is cool,and so detailed!!! well done :applause:

[Joel Hooks]

I really liked the pants. The skirt is OK, but I was waiting for the wrinkles in the pants!

Gandalf the ugly. haha ;)

I want to see this guy eating live chickens!

[fleedawg]

Looks great. And keeps getting better and better. I love the clothes too. :thumbsup:

[Fetus23]

thanks guys!....

Oz: He'll melt you with his uglyness!!!..look out!! :)

lowdown : sorry, no pants...but riinkles are coming to the skirt...eating live chickens eh??...you just gave me an idea for the final pic...thanks!! :beer:

fleedawg: Thank you!!..more coming!!

an update ..

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth29.jpg

:wavey:

[Lukashi]

Great update fetus ;) but keep the renders colorfull, they add soo much character and style to it that it just makes my heart fluther :applause:

[Per-Anders]

hey looking really cool, but maybe he should have more detail to eth hads and feet, to match the level of detail in the head. great work, keep it coming:thumbsup:

[Fetus23]

Lukashi: Thanks man!..Heres a color one... :)

mdme_sadie Thanks! Yes, I just did the hands last night and the feet will be done next...rings and braclets are also coming...

Update..

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth31.jpg

Thanks to everyone for there kind and helpfull words so far this challenge!! Keep the c & c coming!!

:wavey:
fetus

[Wiz]

Fetus u know what i think! its awesome

but 2 things :

back of hands are full flat.. really makes the model less organic! model all the stuff there :)

2nd abs a bit boxy! make them more soft

but his persoantlity is Awesome!
and this suit much better then that old pants!

:wip: :eek: :bounce: :scream: :cool: :wavey: :thumbsup: :

[fellah]

you are working hard fetus, great modeling far!
but I agree with Wiz about the hands and abs, maybe you could make his pectorals a bit "runder" to, not bigger. I know he is supposed to look like a skinny freak ;) but a little smoother, more organic would do fine, I think.

I think it will look awsome later on when make his expression/pose , the stiffness is killling him a little right now, but that's how it is with 3d wips :)

"model onward" :wip: ;)

take care

[Fetus23]

Much thanks guys!!! :D

Pushing on those abs now. I've gotta get to those feet!! Also Much work to do on the backside....got to get to it!!:wip: :wip: :wip:

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[leigh]

Wow, that's looking great Fetus :D:D

I really like the changes you have been making - they are helping to make him look more rustic and traveller-like.

I also like the skirt, as opposed to the skirt - it really suits him :)

[Joel Hooks]

Nice update!

I think he needs some pouches on his belt for easy hiding of illgotten gains. Personally I liked the left nipple when it was pointing to the side, but the right looks great pierced.

I'd consider turning the hem of the skirt so it has a nice thick feel too.

[BlueCougar]

Looking great man!:thumbsup:

[lildragon]

LOL!! just caught this on the challenge site, didn't even know it existed :p

Very very nice character design man, hehe love the neutral expression :) I hope you plan on detailing the palms?

excellent thus far :thumbsup:

salud

[Fetus23]

Leigh: Big Thanks!! :)

lowdown : Great idea with the pouches!! Added them aswell as some bottles. Also, I'm changing the skirt to make it look thicker. Great ideas man.. Tall Thanks!! :D

Blue Couger : Wide Thanks!! :cool:

lildragon : High Thanks!! ;) Great idea for hand wrinkles. I'll see what i can do with that. I'm not sure how much i want to leave to texturing at this point.

An update :

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth32.jpg

I've worked on the feet a bit, any suggestions there would be great....sandles?...bandages?...or just hairy bare feet? Trying to get a pleasing shape to them. The hat is gone for now, it might appear later...

:beer:
fetus

[Lukashi]

Noooo now he doesnt look like a final fantasy wizard, either way good model, i know your still modelling but some more color would be nice :bounce:

Id go with the bare hairy feet, like a hobbit :p

[eirenicon]

Awesome work! This has really progressed, you sir kick much ass :thumbsup:

[Nurb'd]

Very nice but I wanted to make a specific comment

I love the feet! They fit exactly how I would imagine if I saw the top half only. Superb work on the feet (as well as the rest). Since his neck sticks out a tad he would need bigger feet. Nice vision

:thumbsup:

[Hmura]

whoa man!!!
This is looking really good. :beer:
I really like the facial expression

[pigwater]

Fetus...this thing is so cool...i must of missed for a while, but it's come so far since the first few posts

beautiful:applause:

[mv]

Great job Fetus; He looks really cool. I dig his gear :buttrock:

[Fetus23]

Thank you all for the very kind words!!!

Heres a small update. I've got 2 different styles for him here. The one on the left is more rustic and dirty looking. The right one is more on the cartoony end. I preffer the one on the left so i think thats where the textures will lead.....what do you all think?? Getting some creatures in those cages this weekend... :)

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth35.jpg

I really do like the left one better but raytracing shadows in maya is soooo slow...any suggestions here would be really good! :)


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fetus

[Mentat7]

I don't know much about Maya so I can't help you there, sorry. But I like the color of the one on the right and I like the look of the one on the left. Maybe a cross between the two...and dirty up the clothing a bit? Just a humble suggestion. I love those cages.

[Remi]

Lets see some textures on this guy...very cool concept fetus....like it alot....:thumbsup:

[Lukashi]

Great stuff :bounce:, nice job coloring it and i like the basket things,

i prefer the one on the right

[Fetus23]

Thanks guys!!

an update!!!

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth39.jpg

c&c always welcome!!!
:beer:
fetus
:wavey:

[mv]

:beer: those creatures.. nice! maybe you could think of some kind of counterbalance for those cages. Don't really know how they stay on his back. I could also balance the image . Keep it up my friend!:buttrock:

[Lukashi]

Cute little creatures, i think it would balance out if you put the right creature in the left cage and vice versa, itd be really cramped for the left creature, but thats life ;), might be funny too :)

[dur23]

oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi

I stole your socks sucker...:thumbsdow

I still think the creature in the right hand cage isn't as cool as the one in the left hand cage...:shame:


When you gonna start texturing....TEXTURING....texturing....texturing

[asela]

i had my doubts in the beginning but it is amazing.
i realy love the concept


asela

[Joel Hooks]

I think a dead animal (chicken) bones would be cool in one of the cages, with some straw or something as a liner. This gets back to the earliear animation idea of him eating live chickens.

That skirt still needs a hem at the bottom, or it needs to get ragged (maybe a bit of both?)

This guy is killer, you've done some great work here.

[Fetus23]

Thanks everyone!!
Here are some updates on texturing..

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth48.jpg

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/head3.jpg


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[mv]

:bounce: Excellent! I love the patterns on his clothes...nice skin too. But you should add volume to the eyes (cornea and iris) they look like painted balls; you know eyes are what gives life to your character.. Keep it up! :beer:

[Fetus23]

thank you m@!!...I'll try and give more life to the eyes...i believe the textures are calling for less cartoony eyes...

more texture work..

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth50.jpg

:beer:

[mv]

good texturing update.. but for the eyes,I mean you have to re-model them with a transparent convex cornea .

[Steveyola]

Nice looking model, I think you need a sidekick to go with him.;) You got some extra time.;)
Lot's of work for him,but worth it.:beer:

[dur23]

damn sexy as i already told you wuss...:) Especially for your first ;)

[swag]

looks crasy damn good :)

[SEL]

You have a great model here in this challenge also! The texture looks really nice also and you still have a month to go! My only crit with this guy is your eye texture, I think its dropping the quality of the character a little. If you can find a realistic eye texture, I would suggest using that instead, everything else though is just great. Keep the detail and updates coming!

SEL

[lildragon]

wow fetus, I'm really loving the texture update, very authentic :thumbsup: love the saturated colors :D more more

salud

[leigh]

That's looking fantastic so far, Fetus :thumbsup:
This one is one of my absolute favourites in this challenge! :applause:

The only crits I have, are that the bump map on the body looks a little too big - the details are too deep, looking too much like gouges, instead of wrinkles :)

The nipple ring is also sticking through the waistcoat.

And lastly, I think you really need to add some kind of edge to the bottom of the waistcoat.

But otherwise, it's AWESOME!

[pregnant embryo]

This is your best model yet!!! :bowdown:
Thee textures rock! :thumbsup:
Bring back the cages and critters! (pleeezzzze) :rolleyes:

GO MAN GO! :xtreme:

:beer:

[chadlychoo]

Great creature Fetus! I've always loved your style and this guy stays very true to it. I agree with Leigh on all of her points. The bump map looks really "drawn on" and not so natural. Great work man! :beer:

[Fetus23]

Thank you all so much for the kind replies!!! It Gives me motivation to texture more of my models...:thumbsup:

M@: Thanks! Yes, I've worked on the eyes a bit here...more to come on that..

Steveyola: Thank you!!Yes a side kick will come if i have the time...

dur23: :airguitar

swag : :scream:

SEL: Much Thanks! Agreed on the eyes....working on that..

lildragon: Glad you like the texture work so far...I'm really looking foward to seeing your creature painted up!!

Leigh:Once again thank you very much!! Really great crits!!! I'm working on all those things plus a few others...

Virtuoso: Thanks mate!! I agree about the eyelids. I am planning on using morph targets for blinking, eyebrow movements, lip and nostril movements, all coming in future updates. When are you going to get in on the fun??

pregnant embryo: :beer: We'll se about the creatures...time will tell. I want more microfiche!!!!

Chad-D : Big Thank you!!! Working on the bump maps...

And now for a small update, Your critic and comments are always very appreciated!!!

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth61.jpg

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth60.jpg

:wavey:

[Fetus23]

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/wire5.jpg

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/wire6.jpg

:beer:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce: Really very good work....:thumbsup:

[muckywetnoodle]

Lots of nice little details there. I like how he's carrying the other creatures in the cages as well. Are you going to model another state for his mouth? It looks like it'd be tough to hold that wide grin.

[Fetus23]

Thanks guys!!...update on next page...

[Fetus23]

dimitrisliatsos: Big :bounce: thanks!!!

Muckywetnoodle: Thank you!! Heres the first pic with a couple blendshapes to play with. Just blinking and small lip movments for now but much more is coming....combined with a jaw bone later on and he'll be alot of fun to play with!!! :)

Heres the update..now i have some control over that cheezy grin :D

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth65.jpg

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[fellah]

hey fetus, your going at it strong! but is it some cheated DOF I see in there :shame: ;)

it's really much better without the grin on his face, it made him look stiff before.

well, I'm not going to crit alot, but I hope you're going to texture those small accessories he's wearing :wip:

take care

[leigh]

That's absolutely awesome, Fetus :applause: I love it! :D No crits here, just wanted to show some support!!

[rolhionjs]

:buttrock: This render rules !!! GREAT JOB !! :beer:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce:

His looks cute with lips closed...better!

Loose the dof and do what fellah says about texturing some stuff...and we have a possible winner!!!....:bounce:

[dur23]

you and your crazy ass renders! hehe

i still think the eyes could be better:)

[Kogepan]

alright! He looked too freaky for me to look at before... what with those crazy wide-open eyes, and that obnoxious grin, and those... disgusting! nipples... but that last render was really cool. I could actually look at it without shuddering. :thumbsup:

[Fetus23]

fellah: Thanks for the words!! Yes im getting to more details soon...and dof is much faster and more fun for me in post ... :wavey:

Leigh : :D

.::STRIKE::. : Thanks man....much appreciated :beer:

DimitrisLiatsos:Great big huge thank you!!!! :) I will lose the dof for some renders but i do like it for certain shots..

dur23: :cool:

Kogepan: lol.. I'm glad your able to look at his face now.. ...that grin was getting to me too...kinda creepy :)

Little update here. Another blendshape to play with. Tonight i'm working on textures for hands and feet...also detailing jewlery and small things...

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth66.jpg

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[mv]

excellent! good work fetus, it's getting better and better, keep it up!!
the eye texture update is cool but it still looks like a globe with a texture on it. The nostrils look strange too.
Yet it's still great, that's all nitpicking; but you know, for the eyes, I really think it should enhance your model and make it more alive ...
:beer:

[Slot]

Amazing modeling and texturing techniques. You do have a very detailed work there, with a lot of stile.

It gets better every update.

Keep up the excelent job.:beer:

[Omniscient]

Thats pretty awesome. But he seems kinda like the Jar Jar Binks of middle earth. ;)

[chadlychoo]

He he I love it! keep up the good work. :thumbsup:

[mtmckinley]

Excellent textures! :D I hope mine turn out half as well! :)

[Fetus23]

Thanks everyone!!!
M@ : Thank you for pushing me with the eyes, i think its finally starting to pay off..... :thumbsup:

Omniscient: thank you!!...nooo not jarjar!! ;) his personality is MUCH different i asure you :)

Chad-D : Good to here your words!!!!

Mtmckinley: Thanks but i still think they need tweaking....I've got some stretching going on with some of the blendshapes that i need to sort out...also might repaint the bump map with a higher rez...gotta get to it..:wip:

Alright heres the update...
The BOTTOM MIDDLE, BOTTOM LEFT and TOP RIGHT have modeled eyes...I really think it looks alot better what do you think?

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth67.jpg

[fellah]

hey, you can really tell which eyes are modeled and which ones are not, this is a really good example to show everyone that modeled eyes add alot.
I don't know if you have made this, but it looks so on the bottom left eyes, but not on the top right one. darkened the top 50% of the iris a little, it will give alot of depth to the eyes. try and take away that dark part on the bottom left eyes, and you'll see how much "worse" it will look.

and I agree about the bumpMap res to, it would look better if it where a bit more highRes.

for some reason I like the bottom left one(even without the great looking eyes) it might be because of the strong/powerful colors compared to the others, maybe you should go in that direction(not to much though)

oh, and maybe you could add some bloodVessels to his eyeBalls to. it would fit this character well imo,

just ideas :)

model/texture onward!! :wip: ;)

[mv]

:applause: I'm glad I helped, see how eyes give life! it's great! keep it up! he really looks sympathic with the great irises..

[leigh]

That last bunch of renders is incredible, Fetus :applause: :applause: I particularly love the render on the bottom right corner - his expression is awesome!

Superb work :thumbsup: If we had star ratings in this forum, I'd be sure to give you a 5!

[elloco]

... dude the gizzard is Awesome! ... you kickin it ... do something 'bout those nipplez tho ... they look like plugs for blow-up toys ... or beachballs ...

[pregnant embryo]

HEY FEATS! YOUR GIZZARD IS LOOKING GREAT! :applause:

My favorite two expressions are the ones in the middle (looking overly pleased and unimpressed). :xtreme:

I do, however, think in my professional body modifer opinion that the nipple ring is the weakest part...

A 'good' nipple piercing should be through the AREOLE directly behind the 'bump' of the nipple.


MOREMOREMOREMOREMOREMOREMOREMORE!!!! :beer:

[dur23]

HAHA that rocks!!! Nice update Fetus!

Those eyes look 1,000,000,000 times beddar!!!

[Fetus23]

Thank you ALL very much....big motivation!!!!! :beer:

Remmember, never make a gizzard angry.......

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth85.jpg

:wavey:

[leigh]

Wow, that's awesome! Those eyes are particularly good - it just goes to show what a difference it makes to actually model the eyes correctly ;)

Although this might be a little gross, it might be kinda cool to add some dried crusties around the nostril area... Just a thought.

You could also make the areas around the eyes appear wet, using a spec map ;) That would give it a nicer sense of realism, I think :)

[KingMob]

loving it, tho i would like his lips to look a bit wetter than his face, might make it even better...and i love leighs idea for some crusties hehe... cool character man! :bounce:

[mv]

Originally posted by Leigh
it might be kinda cool to add some dried crusties around the nostril area...

That would be the killer detail!:beer: Keep it up Fetus!

[Fetus23]

leigh: WOW!..your full of awsome crits!!..I love it!..crustys may be on the way but the spec map is already here :)...couple renders below have spec maps. Makes him look nice and froggy. Think I'll tone it down a bit though, so it dosen't look to much like plastic...but i really think it added alot of realism to him. Thanks again leigh!!!

kingmob: Thanks mate!!...working on it!! :wip:

m@: if it makes for killer detail, then i'll try it out!! :)...thanks M@!!

ok heres a few renders...got some bones in there finally....no hand textures yet...just some test posing..

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth68.jpg

and heres a couple renders with the new spec map...

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth96.jpg

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth95.jpg

Your critic and comments are always very welcome!!!
:beer:
fetus

[fellah]

hey, wow! that specularity/wet look really added alot!! I love those last 2 renders on the face, so much better!
one thing though, the hmm.. "skin" under the eyes looks to "lose", for my liking will say. like the eye ain't attached, like it's floating around inside there. you get my point? just pull those lids closer to the eye. could be better if you made the same thing to the "top lids".
oh, and the nostrils look to sharp, I would have made them softer, more organic. just smooth that hard edge out a little.
but that is just small things. I really love the wet look you gave him, it really added alot!

stop texturing/modeling onward!! ;)


edit: saw your post in my thread, so I thought I would go ahead and thank you here, thanks! :)

[rolhionjs]

This one is really going great !!! Fantastic job man ! :beer:

[RockinAkin]

Those latest head renders are fantastic.
Take whatever you did there, and do it to the rest of the body!

Keep it up,
-DivideByZero-

[AJ]

He's the slimiest person that I've ever actually wanted to meet!

Absolutely love his face... :D

[leigh]

Fetus, that looks great :applause:

The spec map really makes him zzzzing!!! Totally cool!

The only other thing I can now suggest is for you to add some more finer details into your bump map - at the moment, most of your bump details are pretty bold - try adding in thinner, finer wrinkles here and there - especially under the eyes and around the mouth.

Having the spec map there now will also help to enhance the bump map, so fine details do show up nicely :)

[Rick-K]

Wow, nice and juicy! That guy just keeps gettin better and better. I think Fellah makes a good point about the eyelids, and the nostrils....keep up the good work!


:in noise we trust and sex we do:

[decoy]

mmmmmmm greeeasy! :drool:

AWSOME AWSOME AWSOME AWSOME! (Only your work could inspire a sentance with one repeated word!):buttrock::buttrock::buttrock:

Needless to say your gizzard rocks (rocks/gizzard get it? hahaha very punny) :xtreme:


QUACK QUACK

[mv]

Great update with the Spec map! that was missing... keep it up :beer:

[azazel]

He looks great...:thumbsup:
Your specular map rendering remind me I have to do something like that for my character...

[elnady]

I like it so much great work:thumbsup:

[Fetus23]

Reply time!!

fellah : I'm glad you like the new look. I think it really does suit him better. I've pulled the eyelids closer here and tweaked a few other things. I'll never stop onwarding!!! :)

Strike : Thank you!! Makes me very happy that you like him!!!

DivideByZero : Working on body slime now...thanks man!!

AJ_23 : I'd like to meet him to....maybe i will someday ;)

Leigh : zzzzzing!!! :)...I'll see what i can do with your new suggestions. Time is running short now, I've got alot to do on the body and other things. :wip:

Rick K. : Thank you!!! Fixed the eyelids and I've tried to smooth the nostrils but i think they are still a bit sharp (might be the lighting)...its hard to stop!!!

decoy : .........:love:.........

m@. : Thanks again!! It definatly was missing...waiting for your update.....

azazel : Thanks!! Yes! Your character should definatly have the wet look...I'm sure he uses that webbing from time to time.

AHMED-3D : Thank you man!! Welcome to cgtalk, i see that was your first post!!

and a little update....

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth106.jpg

At this point I'm constantly trying different lighting and rendering setups...its hard to settle on one look. Hopefully I'll have an update on the body soon....still have to find a pose and work up a support scene for the final pic. Thank you everyone for your critic and comments this challenge!!!

:wavey:
fetus

[gom3z]

This is looking very good.
Those two renderings are awesome.
I particularly like his eyes and the little cheeky smile on his face.

Looking forward to seeing the body updates :)
keep it up

[Magnusv]

Very nice,it's one of the best so far.Go for the body updtes now,it looks really promising.:thumbsup:

[draconix]

Coming along nicely.

[Lukashi]

Fetus just checked it out great stuff. Im loving all the emotions :), the one where he has him mouth open smiling is beyond adorable!

[Fetus23]

Thank you guys!!.. :beer:
heres a little update on the body..

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth108.jpg

:wip:
:wavey:

[dur23]

mmmmhmmmmmmm speculary nipples! my favorite:D

rock hard fenuts23! :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: :wip:

[KurtBoutilier]

Looking great bud..... Nice style=)

[elloco]

... even nicer now ... the clothes (west?, jacket? ... ) are still a bit rigid ... and lowpoly .. you can see the breaks at the edges ...

[mv]

:buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

[Fetus23]

Thanks guys!.. :D

elloco: yes, good eyes...have to smooth that out that for the close ups...thanks!!

Heres a shot of the whole body as it stands right now..

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth120.jpg

Your critic and comments are always welcome!!...almost ready to start his on his weapons...


:beer:

[dur23]

Thats kickin some serious ass FEnuts!
This rockin especially seeing as how its your first skin.
Thats what people don't really know ya see. THIS IS HIS FIRST TEXTURED CHARACTER!!!

I wanna see what you can do ala low poly.



:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :scream: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce: i like him a lot Fetus23 . His has a unique appearence.:thumbsup:

Just on suggestion. ..pose him with his smile...at least this is how i remember him.!!!:beer:

[flamedevil]

Good concept :airguitar
I like the details you made, accesories, cloth.
I prefer the facial expression on that pic :http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth108.jpg , he's very cute :)

:thumbsup:

[Fetus23]

dur23: :love: ...i study hard before the test!!! :)

dimitrisLiatsos: thank you! yes i like the smile better too, much more pleasant that way...

flamedevil : thanks man! agreed....a smile is always better then a frown :) :D...

an updated pic...still working on alot of things at once...detailing here and there, testing poses, textures and backgrounds..slowly painting the weights.........having much fun!! :)

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth127.jpg

your comments are all very appreciated!!!

:wavey:

[rolhionjs]

WOOWWW !!!! :buttrock: FANTASTIC !! I really like the pose !! Really Great work Fetus ! :beer:

[r0bal]

You've already done a ton of great work!
The texture is what I like the most :applause:
Waiting for the finish...

[lildragon]

hot damn! I need to start texturing like this minute :argh: damn good job Fetus, you got my vote :thumbsup:

salud

[AshodT]

WOW really cool!!!

Exellent work there Fetus23,i wanna see an anim now:applause:

[Gelfling]

All that work Fetus... super character

You must put him in some kind of animation or short later. Great demo reel stuff

[dur23]

ooo that is one mighty large axe.....

I think he might be compensating for something that is lacking length....HAHEHOOOOooo!

You crazy:wip: :buttrock: :shame: :applause:

[fellah]

wow, fetus you have worked hard and it's paying of!

I have some suggestions though,

the weapon, or the blade of the weapon looks very "clay'ish", to soft to be able to chop something of. I think it's mainly because the corners are soft. I suppose it should be some kinda metal, so sharper corners are a must!
and the material, it could be cool to add a little dirt along the "tip" of the blade. and maybe a little reflection..

also, I think you should reduce the "glow" effect you have around your character.

oh, and I really liked the white skinlook you had in one of the previous closeups of his face. maybe try that one? it could be cool, you never know! :)

just suggestions, it's already fine as it is, but you can always polish a little :)
take care

[Dreamwave]

wow, this one is so cool...

but...is he going to attack with that axe? the looks very friendly and nice, but that axe is dangerous! or is he just a farmer?

[Hellwolve]

Well, first of all: great char! I really like the combination of an happy character and really big weapon...

Okay, on to the C & C:

-He looks too clean. Perhap you're gonna do this, but he needs dirt and grime. IMHO, Middle Earth isn't clean ;)

-The silver piece in the axe handel seemingly falls out any minute.

-Like is said before, the Axe seems to soft. In fact, in my eyes, it's melting!

That's all. Continue ;)

[Mandrake]

:thumbsup: wpw I'm suprised .. havent checked this for some
time.. real good work bravo

[swag]

wau thats looks so nice - what for light setup u used?

[Man]

well..loks like we got the winner......marvelous:buttrock:

[Gelfling]

Hot damn

modeling, texturing, pose all comes together so nice

my vote as well

[Mangled Poly]

looking awesome liek always fetus
:bounce:

[Grub]

Fetus, that's superb.:xtreme:

[mv]

Hehe, he's really coooool:cool: keep it up my friend!

[KingMob]

well..since you replied on mine.. I guess I should tell you something...

I think this thing rules...I am really getting sick of telling you that tho :thumbsup:

I do however think the axe needs more work... BUt I like how it almost looks like riverrock used to make the blade..

Maybe look at native american spears/arrows? Add soem leather wrapping to the hilt (i think thats the right word) of the axe.

freaking great stuff.

[muckywetnoodle]

Lookin good! I like how all his elements work well together. I suppose the axe doesn't really suit him too well. Seems he'd have some lighter weaponry. He looks a lot better with his face posed too!

[Fetus23]

Thanks for all the kind and helpful words!!!

STRIKE: Really big thank you!!!

r0bal : Yes the finish is coming soon!!...thanks mate!!

lildragon : GET to your texturing lildragon!!! I wanna see that thing painted up!! Thanks for the support man!

AshodT : Thanks a bundle!! Thats somthing i had in mind from the beggining...he will be animated....

Gelfling : Thanks for the boost!!

dirt23theedee : hehehehe...well he is compensating for something...his tail!!!....you'll see in a future update..

fellah : Thanks fellah!!.. I have not much time to change things but I'll definatly take your words into mind...you always have great advice to make a piece better... :thumbsup:

Dreamwave : Thank you! He has stolen the axe from something that can actualy handle it properly....he just thinks he looks cool with it....like a peacocks tail ;)...

Hellwolve : Thanks mate!! Good crits to take in mind for sure. I am planning on adding more details and textures to the axe for the final shot....I agree its a bit bare and strange looking at the moment..

Mandrake : Great big thank you!!

swag : 3 point lighting setup with dmaps...no raytracing... much too slooow, perhapes for the final pic. Thanks for the kind words!!!

knoxville : :love:

Mangled Poly : Very glad you like him, Thank you!!

Grub : :love:

m@ : :cool:

KingMob : Thank you for the kind words king!! hadn't thought of river rock for the blade, cool idea...

Virtuoso : Thank you so much!! I feel i have accomplished alot this challenge...My goal is to make something living and interesting to look at..I'm so glad you can feel him!!

muckywetnoodle : The axe must stay...He's very proud of stealing it :)!! Thanks noodle!!

And now a little update....The axe and backpack will have much more details and textures for the final....still playing with backgrounds..

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth131.jpg

:wavey:

[mv]

what can I say? I'm glad I bothered you with the eyes cause he REALLY looks alive! A great character you have here Fetus:buttrock: ... that pose with the background is cool, the background too; If I may add a crit I'd say you should really (hehe I think I'm gonna bother you with that too;) ) work on his right hand pose. the thumb and the wrist-palm connection look wierd; hey, you know hands are things that really matter ... keep it up!:beer:

[Dreamwave]

very cool! :thumbsup:

can you repost the creaturebackground? I'm too lazy to look it up

[Fetus23]

M@ Thanks man! about the hands..grrr ;)...I'll work on that, could just be the bone weighting which im still sorting out...

Dreamwave - Thanks alot !! heres the requested background info..

-The Gizzards are thieves. articles of fabric are their main ambition, but pieces of gold and jewlery are often sought, which is then used to fashion ear-rings and other useless ornaments. The gizzards are the evolved ancestors of a breed of lizards called Gillatronons. The Gillatronons once flourished in middle earth, but as the reign of terror passed by, as it does every 3600 years, the Gillatronons, under a canopy of flames were forced into the process of evolution. The Gizzards are the result of this evolution. At first they thieved for necessity and survival but as they flourished thier needs turned into to greeds. The comet that causes the shift of earth every 3600 years will return again, causing yet another change.....
c.l.n.t.


:beer:

[Dreamwave]

cool...it's fitting the character very good!
I'm new here, this is the first challenge ending when I'm here...

how will it be judged? and is the background counting too?

[lildragon]

Fetus, check the frontpage buddy :) 3DFestival.com that is ;) http://www.3dfestival.com/

salud and I'm going, I'm going :p

[hiko_]

Fantastic work !!!
I really love your creature design and your render grrrrr .. :drool:
Wich software your use ?

But IMHO some materials needs more work (weapon ...)

[leigh]

OMG that montage totally rocks :xtreme: :xtreme:

What can I say, it's perfect. Brilliant. That black and white one totally kicks ass!!!

[KingMob]

axe still needs more work imo..some scratches or dried blood or soemthing...

that montage fills me with glee. I love that black and white one.

[Fetus23]

dreamwave : Thanks you!! I don't think the background is counted in this particular challenge.

lildragon : :love: Thank you soooo much for the plug on 3dfestival!! It made more then my day thats for sure!!! :)

hiko_ : Thank you for the support hiko_!! Yes the axe and backback are untextured at the moment but that will soon change. For all my works I use maya....

leigh : :buttrock: You rock!!...Thank you so much for your helpful support this challenge!!!

KingMob : Thanks Mob!! yes yes the axe :)...getting to that soon...bloods a good idea...

:beer: to every last one!!

:wavey:

[Konic]

Really cool character,totally deep and fun to look at.Great work,real detailed and well done altogether.:bounce: :beer:

[dmonk]

Excellent. I hope you animate this some day.:thumbsup:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce: Fetus23 ....You have done more than great job.

Just wanted to say that u are already one my three favourites challengers for LOTR :wavey:


Hope to see again on challenge ....GREAT STUFF !!!:bounce:

[Fetus23]

Konic : Thank you for the support!! :)

dmonk : Thanks man!!....I'll be getting to the animation soon...He's completely rigged and setup for animation so its a must :)...

DimitrisLiatsos : Big thank you man!! I'm really glad you like the gizzard :)...I hope I can find time for the next challenge too!!


Ok heres one of "these" renders :)....I promise I'll have a backview soon!!!...the colors are taking a break here...they've been busy... :)

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearthgi.jpg


:beer:
Your comments and suggestions are always very welcome!!!



:wavey:

[KingMob]

that is such a lovely model... I hate the word 'lovely' but it's fitting.

I love the textures, I love this render... yeah your in my top 3 for sure.

I hope you do the next challenge to man!

It has been a blast watching your model come to life...and many other models too.

Just wanted to give you a little MORE support... :beer:

[Virtuoso]

Full of character,that's what you have here,and that's what really is important in the end. Intricate details which to me is vital in most cases,but along with giving a character a true feeling of being alive is what is also very important,you have done this totally.

A true contender for one of the top spots in my opinion.Excellent work Fetus.:thumbsup: :beer:

[OverIguana]

yea i gotta say, your entry is quite amazing....my favourite part being the textures, they add a level of realism which is unsurpassed so far in this challenge (imo :p)

good work man!! i look forward to seeing more :applause:

[JoeConnolly]

Amazing work.My Favorite here i think.You get my vote anyway.

[Fetus23]

KingMob : Thanks a big bunch!!! I hope to see you in the next challenge aswell!! :D

Virtuoso : Thank you for the kind words!! Yes I love the little details and figuring out where to put them...one of my favorite parts of 3d is adding trinkets :)...Hope to see you in the next challenge virtuoso!!!

OverIquana : Hey! a fellow Calgarian!! Nice!...Thanks for the support man!!

JoeConnolly : :love: :D

OK finally i have a backview....:)...could always change things here and there but the deadline is moving up fast now so i think i'll just play with posing and lighting him until the end.....maybe some added trinkets on his backpack too...:)

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth133.jpg



:beer:

[mv]

:buttrock: :buttrock:

[fellah]

very nice fetus!! only thing that really disturbs is the right elbow area deformation.

it's nothing much, I say this because I "wanna help you to do it as good as it can be, so you can kick my butt in the finalvoting." (hehehehehe! ;) beat that one little m@ :) )

[dur23]

heya fetus ya crazy front page making bastard!!!

I do agree with fellah on the elbow deformations. Needs a lil tweeking.

More rust and blood and other such fun stuff is needed on that axe!!!

Go boy only 1 day left!!!!

[flamedevil]

Really beautiful model... even if this glass has nothing to do here :)

[KingMob]

gah! thats sweet...make the axe have more shine to it..but not to shiny... And more blood :buttrock:

super nice work man!

[pabbloz]

This will be famous... :)

[l_farley13_l]

Absolutry astounding, trully somthing for the rest of us to aspire too ! I just love the spec!! And the knowledgeable eyes.

Farley13

[Fetus23]

final image...

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/MEfinal2.jpg

whew!

wires..

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/MEwirefinal.jpg


:beer:

[Fetus23]

..
beware of the white buffalo...

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/MEalbino.jpg

:beer:

[dur23]

beautiful work as expected ya crazy bitch!!!

amazing last compo.

Love that tail.

Now get texturing all your older stuff!!!!!!!!!

It was fun fetus.

;) I won't be around for the next couple ones tho...:(

[KingMob]

look who rules! it's fetus! ;) you got my vote! (one of them anyways...so much greatness right now)

[fellah]

great to see you had time to make a couple of finals fetus, it has been really fun to follow you this time. the result turned out very very nice!! :thumbsup:

[mv]

Excellent work, great style:buttrock: :beer:

[Mangled Poly]

I like him very much sir....

[Fetus23]

I just wanted to thank everyone for a really great challenge!! :thumbsup: All of your encouragment and helpful words have really made a positive impact on my work. I hope i can find time for the next one!! And watch out for this little gizzard :)...more to come with him.....

:beer: to all of you!!!!!!

:wavey:

[smfjersey]

I subscribed to your and Leighs threads from the very start, just to track your progress. Between the two of you my cgtalk mail doubled. It's a sign of your relationship with the community and the appreciation of your work. I noticed you personally commenting on all the entries. This is exactly what I mean about your relationship with the community.
Great work on the Gizzard, I'll keep an eye out for your future work.

John

[cakeypigdog]

well done mr fetus. easily one of the best. its been great to follow your progress. look forward to seeing more work by your good self:)
:beer:

[pabbloz]

The last one rocks! :thumbsup:

I will keep an eye on your future works! ;)

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce: Definitely THE LAST ONE ROCKS !!!!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Fetus23]

Thanks for the kind words!!... :D

Here is bonus image number one for those still lurking in this section...

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth149.jpg


:beer:

[Hellwolve]

Heh, cool :thumbsup:



(Question: who wouldn't lurk in this section when you show all this great stuff?)

[Lukashi]

Awesome work fetus :) He looks like he got shot of soemthing :(
in the latest one

I love the one with all the facial expressions, his eyes are so cute :)heheheeh

[giantrobot]

Fetus-

This thread really made me realize that i need to follow WIPS fully through. Your final result is SO cool.

I just noticed the page (way back there) where you went from textured eyes to modeled eyes. HOLY COW that looks better.

Is there any place where I could see a tutorial on modeled eye setup? I tried searching cgtalk...but the word EYE is not searchable :annoyed: ...too short. I would love to get into modeled eyes.

[Fetus23]

Hellwolve : Thanks you! (answer : :D )

Lukashi: Thanks mate!!..I really hope you join and FINISH ;):) the next challenge!!

giantrobot : Thank you for the kind words!! Here is a tutorial on how to model an eye. It should give you the general idea for the shape and parts. For a much nicer and realistic eye, textures should be used for color,specular, diffuse, and bumps instead of the ramp shader they use.

http://www-viz.tamu.edu/students/jinnah/617/anatomy/eye_tut.htm

Its also a very good idea to have a look at some medical diagrams of an eye to get a better feel for whats actually in there...here is a link for that..

http://www.coloradohealthsite.org/eyehealth/eyehealth_diag.html?printit

Once again, Thank you for the kind words and I hope this helps you begin your quest for realistic eyes!!!


:beer:

[giantrobot]

Here is a tutorial on how to model an eye. It should give you the general idea for the shape and parts. For a much nicer and realistic eye, textures should be used for color,specular, diffuse, and bumps instead of the ramp shader they use.

http://www-viz.tamu.edu/students/jinnah/617/anatomy/eye_tut.htm]


That second site is great, thanks!

BUT, the 1st link...the tutorial, is dead . Any other good ones out there?

[giantrobot]

AH HA! it is not dead...

the link that you had up there had an extra "]" in it. once i deleted it...IT WORKED!

THANKS A LOT!

[Fetus23]

giantrobot : Sorry about that broken link ...glad you figured it out :)..

The last image...

http://www3.telus.net/fetus/midearth152.jpg

:beer:

[Virtuoso]

For the bonus shot and the latest one.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

:beer:

[Hellwolve]

That last one is now my favorite!

"Look at me, I'm so friendly, with my blood stained axe"

:scream:


:beer:

[lildragon]

Hey Fetus, looking thru your thread again I must say you got some serious skill with texturing, care to show your UV layouts? would really love to see how you attacked it. I can't see to find any form of stretching, pinching or seams in your maps. Incredible work man...:thumbsup:

salud

[Fetus23]

Hey lildragon thanks again!! :) Well this is my first fully textured character so I'm still learning alot as I go. Here are some of the projections...They'll be cleaner on my next model...especially the face :)...

Gizzard projections (http://www3.telus.net/fetus/gizzardmaps1.jpg)

Also, this video tutorial REALLY helped me understand texturing and UV's in maya, handeling stretching and seams etc....(thanks a bunch to dur23 for this link)

http://www.trinity3d.com/M4F/M4F_tutorials.shtml

I hope this helps you out!!

:beer:

[Franky]

Very cool model,all from texture to madeling.:thumbsup:

[cgjie]

The very helpful post for me! thanks a lot!
very nice work!


:buttrock: :beer: :thumbsup: :drool:

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