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aLoneCuzzo
06-19-2006, 01:05 PM
Here's my anatomy thread.

Hogarth Ref. Ball-point pen.

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/thumb01.jpg

BNN
06-19-2006, 06:15 PM
Hi aLoneCuzzo!

How did you do those fine shadings using ball point pen? Looks nice!

Great study, hope to see more =D

Rebeccak
06-20-2006, 01:55 AM
aLoneCuzzo,

Welcome aboard! Lovely study from Hogarth, definitely looking forward to seeing more. What is your art training and background? :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

aLoneCuzzo
06-20-2006, 02:23 PM
-BNN

Hey, thanks for the comment!

A few years ago when I started, my cousin (who is like a super artist or something) told me that my lines were like weak. He said that I was afraid to make a mark on the page. He was right, so I eventually started sketching with a pen because it really made me live with the choices that I made on the page.

A lot of my sketches were quick like yours. But then one day I was clicking through here and I stumbled upon Rebbeca's sick ass thread. I saw her studies in ball point pen and I thought "hey! i want to do it like that!" If you look at her stuff like real close, it looks like its speaking, like she can catch the essence of the thing that she's drawing. I definitely don't think my stuff is close to that, but I sat down and tried to catch what the piece was saying to me.

So yeah, at first I thought it really sucked because I showed a friend of mine and she thought it was a violin at first, and then another something else. I'm taking my first figure drawing class and the people said they loved it, but they all had similar reactions. Some thought it was a woman and an instrument.

Then I got it! They were having a similar reaction as I was to Rebbeca's stuff (not comparing my stuff to her's... 2 different leagues). But I think what I saw in her's was a piece of her spirit or something at the time. It's so subtle and its really not about like visual accuracy at all.

Anyways to your question about the shading (sorry I'm longwinded). I just sat there and sorta felt it out. Rebbeca can probably give you more of the technical advice... But the ballpoint pen is definitely a tricky tool...

Rebecca-
Hands down, you're stuff is amazing. You're an inspiration to a lot of people and thx for the comment.

My education is similar to BNN's I guess. Most of it has been self-taught. I went to school for programming. My cousin helped me out a lot a few years back but I've been in a figure drawing class for 2 weeks now at SVA in Manhattan.

Like BNN, I'm also in an animation course (but not like animation major or anything) and we're currently working on modelling a character.

I want to go into 3d animation/ modelling. I'm not sure which I like more. But I really have grown to have a passion for the human form, so I want to get it right.

Thx! I'll post again tonight!

SpiritDreamer
06-21-2006, 11:26 AM
Hi....CUZZ.....:)

That's a great ink rendering....nice job on that, the fingernail could be a little bigger. maybe..:thumbsup:
Was wondering if you are able to post any of your life drawings from your class on here.
A great way to learn in these forums, is to show off your weak areas amongst all this great talent. It really benifits everyone...pros and begginers alike ....forces the pros to think about what is wrong with the piece,which keeps them on their toes,.. and the begginers reap the
benifits of experianced and hopefully sound advice.....By one person showing their weak areas,
a whole chain reaction takes place, which benifits everyone, from the bottom step of the ladder, all the way up to the top step of the ladder.
If weak areas are not shown,....nobody benifits,...and a situation arises where everyone just sits around saying how great each others work is, which is great for the ego, but not for learning ...:)
Looking forward to seeing more of your work...:thumbsup:

PUT YOUR WORST FOOT FORWARD, ALONG WITH YOUR BEST....ONLY WAY TO PROGRESS.:scream:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

aLoneCuzzo
06-21-2006, 01:02 PM
Hey spirit!

Thanks a lot for the advice. Funny that you should say that about putting your best and worst feet forward. I was battling about posting this next sketch because I really thought it sucked. Looks like that ego was popping its head, but you post was just what I needed to hear.

I'll post my class stuff too; I draw on one of those big pads and I don't have like one of those protective cases so I don't want it to get wet and we have like this storage closet where I leave it. Maybe next week I'll bring my camera and take pictures.

I don't have too many sketches on anatomy other than these new ones that I'm doing around daily and my class ones, so I'll try to post every day or so. Thanks for the words!

K, here's the sketch. I really have trouble getting the hand proportions right when they're all together. It was a crappy scan, I couldn't even really fix the levels too much in photoshop, I'll stick to the black ink.

http://www.alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/hand01.jpg

Rebeccak
06-21-2006, 04:11 PM
aLoneCuzzo,

I have to tell you that I really enjoyed reading what you wrote about my work, and find it really moving that you took the time to appreciate my drawings this way. Really I think you're one of the only people ever to have come so close in describing in words the way I feel about drawing, which is that it's so much less about the subject and so much more about what the lines actually say. I've always found myself able to think most clearly when drawing, because it engenders an internal dialogue that is pretty calming, as you have to really focus, concentrate, and only think about the task before you ~ I suppose it's to do with the way our brains work, but whatever it is, it's quite enjoyable once you find that comfortable groove, and visual things logically interconnect. Thank you for taking the time to write out your understanding of my work. :)

In all truth and honesty, I still find myself surprised when other artists appreciate my work. I think most artists' average experiences of showing their work to non~artists is to get a pretty bland or uncomprehending response, so it's still a shock to me that there are people who 'get' it. And so many on this site, which makes it that much cooler to come here. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
06-21-2006, 05:39 PM
Hi ...CUZZ...:)

Hands were always a nightmare for me, tell I bought..
DRAWING DYNAMIC HANDS.by BURNE HOGARTH, and sat down and spent a week just reading
what he wrote in that book....didn't do any drawing of hands tell I absorbed all that he wrote
in that book. When I finally got done reading about all the basic princaples he talks about in
there, having to do with hands,..it just clicked in my brain how simple they really are.
He had a way of doing that with all the forms and structures of the human body, includeing
the hands.
I think that if you get that book, your dealings with hands will become much more enjoyable.
The idea with his teachings, is not to imatate his style, but to absorb the basic principles
that he decribes and demonstrates,....so that you can apply them in your work, whether
it be from your own imagination, or from life drawings, master copies, or whatever.

Another thing I did, and you might try,.. was to buy a pound of that clay that they sell in the art stores, the kind that does not dry....I kept making a hand, over and over again and applying the principles that are in that book.
Sticks in your brain and memory better when you can feel the process and results, and
have the memory of TOUCH


Looking forward to seeing more or your work and thoughts...:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

aLoneCuzzo
06-22-2006, 01:20 PM
-Rebecca

Thanks so much for reading all my ramblings. I was getting VERY VERY frustrated last night trying to work some ideas out because I'm so rusty. It was really the first time that I've been pissed like that since I was younger in terms of drawing. I would always get pissed and quit. I felt like I could "see" the stuff, but handicap at communicating it on the page felt frustrating.

I'll get over it, I just need to keep posting/drawing/listening to ya'll to get my momentum back up. I really believe that drawing is capturing the spirit of something first by observation, and then recreating it physically using paper/etc. Thanks for guiding us in this act.

-Spirit

Yo thanks SO much. I really feel like I should be paying you for your advice. I'm gonna try that; I get so ahead of myself by just trying to copy, it never dawned on me to really read those books thoroughly and grasp the principles.

I never even thought of the clay idea either!

Best and worst feet forward eh? Here they are:

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/char01small.jpg
small char sketch, dunno if this should be here...

quick sketches on the train...

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/train01small.jpg

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/train02small.jpg

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/train03small.jpg

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/train04small.jpg

That's about it. Any comments on quick sketching would be helpful please! I'm stayin in the fight! Thx!!

Rebeccak
06-22-2006, 06:28 PM
aLoneCuzzo,

No problem! Hey, it takes so many drawings to really start to feel comfortable with the process, and even when you've been drawing forever, there is no guarantee that every drawing will turn out 'right'. It's just a matter of continuing to practice, and to enjoy the good drawings when they happen. I think that for every good drawing I create, it takes around 5-6 bad ones to precede it. :D

Figurative work of any kind (not just Anatomy Studies) is welcome here! Looking forward to more of your updates! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

aLoneCuzzo
06-23-2006, 08:10 PM
OMG Rebecca! YOU TAUGHT CG WORKSHOPS!?!?! How could you keep that from me? I'm so hurt! Haha!

Yeah, I stumbled upon your link on ca to your workshop only to find out that I had missed the party. :sad:

But hey I saw your first was in October and then one in Like Febuary... SOOOO... isn't about high time for one?! I'd so sign up!

Haha... I think I'll actually post something later on here. Gonna go see if I can find some of those master draftsman books @ the bookstore.

SpiritDreamer
06-25-2006, 08:18 PM
Hi....CUZZ...:) :thumbsup:

Really like those skeches you did on the train....the guy with the cell phone is great, you really nailed the gesture on that one....all of them are great really, and this method of captureing what is around you, will really pay off,...it will train your eye,... and your memory for subtle details.
I had a teacher many years ago, his name was BILL OAKES....
GREAT ILLUSTRATOR...He did the Watergate Hearings, TIME magizine covers etc.

http://www.mindleaps.com/ (http://www.mindleaps.com/)
http://www.mindleaps.com/about.html (http://www.mindleaps.com/about.html)

His method of learning and teaching, was to take the class out into public areas..subway, busy stores, parks, ect....and do JUST WHAT YOU ARE DOING...makeing hundreds of very quick studies of everything around you. It is a method that is proven and for sure works...just takes
practice and repetition....drawing and getting a likeness will become second nature, and as
simple and unthought of as walking and breathing after you do a few thousend of them, which
does not take too long, if you do it every day..:)
Keep posting,...you for sure are on the right path, and I am really looking forward to seeing
the progress that you will for sure make...:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

aLoneCuzzo
06-26-2006, 03:53 AM
Thanks so much for your words. I checked out that site, pretty hot stuff!

I didn't get a chance to do any sketches in plublic this weekend, but I did get a chance to go to the Metropolitan Museum of Art to see this presentation that they did on Raphael. I got one of his draft books and I got "Drawing Lessons from the Great Masters" by Hale I think.

Here's a sketch w/ ballpoint pen again from a study of Annicale Carraci's "Standing Figure of a Nude Woman"

It definitely has a lot of errors anatomically speaking, but I'm getting more comfortable witht the pen and after seeing a lot of Raphael's pen works, I think I'm going to do a study of his next.

But I'll get back on those environment/subway/pose... whatever you call them sketches tomorrow. Practice, practice, practice... thx again

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/carracistudysmall.jpg

Rebeccak
06-26-2006, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by aLoneCuzzo: OMG Rebecca! YOU TAUGHT CG WORKSHOPS!?!?! How could you keep that from me? I'm so hurt! Haha!

Yeah, I stumbled upon your link on ca to your workshop only to find out that I had missed the party. :sad:

But hey I saw your first was in October and then one in Like Febuary... SOOOO... isn't about high time for one?! I'd so sign up!
Awww, thank you for the compliment! :) I will in fact be teaching a new Workshop very soon, though I'm not permitted to say exactly when. It would be a pleasure to have you in the class! :thumbsup: You might enjoy checking out the work of former CGWorkshops participants, whose names are annotated with "CGWorkshop Participant" here (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=2817397&postcount=12).

Gorgeous sketch, though her lower torso as you know has gotten a bit stretched. Really enjoying your extended pieces especially! :thumbsup: You definitely have a strong understanding of the opposing curve concept, and I'd love to see more master copies. Imo, they're one of the best ways to learn. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

aLoneCuzzo
06-27-2006, 04:14 AM
WOw... it was a REALLy rough class tonight... I was having a decent sketch day until we were working on heads and hands tonight...

Sorry don't have any posts from class, I leave my pad at school. BUt we draw with charcol straight up... It's very uncomfortable as its my first time drawing that way... but owell I love the challenge...

I was pretty tired and irritated moreso about tthe lack of effort that I gave the heads in class... I was just way too tense... So my teacher let me hold this book "Heads and portraits: Drawings from Piero Di Cosimo to Jasper Johns"

I'm gonna try to knock out 20 or so studies before class again in I think 2 weeks. So look for posts from that book....

K, my sketches... Umm some from the train and one from online reference...

My scans really suck, a lot of marks got left out... ohwell...

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/train05small.jpg

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/torsosmall.jpg

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/lefthandsketchbooksmall.jpg
http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/trainlegssmall.jpg

SirRon
07-01-2006, 02:57 AM
Hey, you're doing a pretty good job with a pen there. Those torso drawings look great!

Though I'd recommend including more of the upper torso and legs to them. I used to draw only body parts for practice but then I couldn't make a figure look right because I wasn't used to drawing the parts all together. So I started to draw the whole figure together, even if it's just a quick couple of lines. That might help fight against the stretching like Rebecca mentioned. Well that's all I can really say. Keep up the drawings :thumbsup:

SpiritDreamer
07-01-2006, 01:46 PM
Hi....CUZZ....:) :thumbsup:

That standing figure of a nude you did is ...BEAUTIFUL...:bounce: :applause:

Also really like that hand holding the drawing pad....you might want to do a lot like that one,...
use a mirror , and have your hand holding different objects...can see different angles of your hand when using the mirror...also will allow you to draw the different obects that your hand is holding...great exercise...will really help train your eye, and your ability to do hands...:thumbsup:
KEEP GOING the way you are going....GREAT progress happening..a day at a time...:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
07-01-2006, 07:10 PM
Lovely drawing! :thumbsup:



http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/torsosmall.jpg

Would love to see more like this. Definitely has a nice rhythm and flow. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

aLoneCuzzo
07-01-2006, 11:50 PM
Hey everyone! Thx for the comments!

-Sirion
Yeah, I agree. I didn't get to jump on any full figures, but I'll do so on my next time out thx!

-Glenn
THANKS SO MUCH FOR THOSE KIND WORDS! I really needed to hear them, as I was getting down on myself. I'm still going to try that clay suggestion and start doing those hands either 2morrow or Monday. Thanks again!

-becca
Thanks. I'll try to whip more out like that. Oro

Okay, so today I went to the Metropolitan Museum of Art. I LOVE DEGAS!!! I'm really not an art affinicando (spelling), but his treatments of the figure are GREAT. So I stood in the museum drawing a few of his works.

I didn't realize how painful that can get after a while. I did a bunch more, and then sat down and just started drawing people. I'm beginning to feel more confident with my gestures and I'm liking my pen more. I think I'll head back to the museum tomorrow.

I got this really good anatomy book too...

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/degas01.jpg

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/degas02.jpg

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/cherub01.jpg

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/gesture01.jpg





http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/gesture02.jpg


http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/gesture03.jpg

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/gesture04.jpg

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/gesture05.jpg

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/gesture06.jpg

BNN
07-02-2006, 07:31 AM
Hoho Cuzz! Seeing some nice studies here!



Maybe you can vary the line weight in your drawings! I'm learning to do that too!



Let's improve! =D

aLoneCuzzo
07-02-2006, 05:42 PM
Cool will do.

Any tips on scanning cuz a lot of detail gets left out of some of these when I scan them in... thx

Rebeccak
07-02-2006, 05:43 PM
http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/cherub01.jpg


aLoneCuzzo, really like the delicacy of your lines here ~ I think that when you really focus and see the small and large relationships between shapes, you do great work! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

aLoneCuzzo
07-02-2006, 07:56 PM
You're so right becca. Thx for the response.

It's like a part of my brain shuts off sometimes when I'm drawing and then it cuts on sometimes. I just need to keep practicing I think to get more consistent or something like that. What do you think?

K, another secret ambition of mine is to be great using painter or like make nice paintings like a lot of the people i've seen here. So rather than sit on the side and gawk at other peoples' nice works and never do any of my own, I'm gonna start with some simple still life's so I can understand how to render light with the tool properly. NO MATTER HOW BAD IT LOOKS I'LL POST! Both feet forward like Glenn said.

So... here's my first... haha! It's the pen holder for my tablet. *shudders...

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/still01.jpg

aLoneCuzzo
07-02-2006, 09:38 PM
This is just a cross-hatching study. I forgot the method they called it, and the reference was from this picture by somebody in raphael's studio.

But yeah, it's so much harder than it looked, and seeing how far off I was really makes me appreciate the master's skill...

oro! well off to maya...


http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/crosshatch01.jpg

aLoneCuzzo
07-03-2006, 05:45 AM
gave painter another try... my first head... 004

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/004ab.jpg

SpiritDreamer
07-03-2006, 10:39 AM
Hi....CUZZ...:applause: :thumbsup:

You are for sure making big progress....like all three of your last studies....they have far more
things right with them, than wrong with them. When doing figures, always keep in mind the size relationships between feet and hands....that cross hatching, which is BEAUTIFUL by the way...the foot looks a little small compared to the hand.
The head.....almost looks like ...silver point technique.....:thumbsup:
KEEP GOING, YOUR DOING ....GREAT....:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
07-03-2006, 03:41 PM
http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/crosshatch01.jpg


aLoneCuzzo, I love the sweeping line in the leg of this one, and the really sensitively done hatchmarks. I think if you can translate this even more into your portraits, you will have a lovely series for your Portfolio. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

aLoneCuzzo
07-03-2006, 06:20 PM
thanks guys!

-Glenn... haha that hand was from another part of the picture... it doesn't belong to the foot... haha... what's silver point technique?

-becca thx... i'll try it but im not sure if i've quite got it down yet...

here are some quickies from today:

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/quicksketch01.jpg

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/quicksketch02.jpg

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/quicksketch03.jpg

Helen-Baq
07-04-2006, 08:24 AM
Wow, you're just getting better and better! I love your style. The head you made in Painter looks great, btw. Keep working with Painter it just gets more fun. :D And keep posting, I'm loving the progress. :)

aLoneCuzzo
07-04-2006, 08:20 PM
fooling around in painter again...

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/studya.jpg

aLoneCuzzo
07-05-2006, 01:42 AM
Oh well... I'm gonna stop crying and whining about 3d and just start posting my works in it...

K, Here's a start in maya of a shoulder... its gonna be for a woman...

Just like the beginning; it took me like 389347 days to get over the fear of just starting... haha! I'll post as it comes along.

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/shoulder01.jpg

aLoneCuzzo
07-05-2006, 02:44 AM
Hey, I've been doing some reading on anatomy, and almost every source that I've read suggests getting my hands on a human skeleton.

What do you guys think about that? Is it worth it?

BNN
07-05-2006, 11:15 AM
Er......
I have no idea about that =x

Anyway you might wanna get the overall shape of the body out 1st then start to carve out details like the limbs, might be faster and easier to spot for mistakes =]

aLoneCuzzo
07-05-2006, 12:52 PM
Will do thx.

I'm such an impulsive buyer! Groan. I bought a full-size skeleton, haha! I kept reading about how Davinci would give a new apprentice a bone and tell him to learn it, which meant drawing it in ever direction, and then once he did that, he would give him another. This would continue until he would go through the entire skeleton and then muscles etc. would be studied...

Another book I was reading said when drawing the head to try to get your hands on a real human skull, by legitimate means or other... hahaha! He was stressing the importance of drawing the bumps etc. right...

Dunno, the Gray's anatomy wasn't cutting it. Oh well.

Helen-Baq
07-06-2006, 06:18 AM
Wow, I wish I could buy a skeleton! That's awesome! Definately makes learning anatomy easier. :)

Keep going with the 3D - Starting general and working out the details is good advice. :)

Rebeccak
07-06-2006, 07:14 AM
aLoneCuzzo,

Oh my gosh, you really bought a full sized skeleton? Aren't they around $3,000? :eek:

Wow, I'm impressed! :) I didn't get here soon enough, but a good resource is Freedom of Teach:

http://www.freedomofteach.com/index.php?site=artist

They sell anatomical models and products. I'm curious to know where you bought your skeleton? :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

aLoneCuzzo
07-06-2006, 12:57 PM
Haha! Yeah I snagged one.

This is the link to where I bought it on ebay. (http://cm.ebay.com/cm/ck/1065-29392-2357-0?uid=369885405&site=0&ver=EOIBSA080805&lk=URL&Item=290001673990)

It was about 10% of $3,000.00. I know its not as good as a real one, but it'll be enough to get me on the road. But I saw a real one that was missing the skull and hands going for around $500 or something, can't remember.

Yeah I checked the freedomofteach site out. My teacher showed their modelling dvd in our class. It was really good, amazing actually. I planned on getting the dvd and that resin model, but every one of those old anatomy books kept saying "get a skeleton", "draw bones", it was like I could hear it in my sleep. "CcuUuUuUZzZzOOooo BuuuUUYYY AaAaAAA SkkkeeLLeetTOOooOn"

I thought they went for a few thousand too. But this one looks pretty decent, so I figured I'd start there and then attach the muscles on etc. w/ the resin model and w/ books for reference & learn their names etc.

What do you guys think? thx

SpiritDreamer
07-06-2006, 02:17 PM
Hi....CUZZ...:)

If you can find a school where you live, that has an ANATOMICAL DRAWING class...GO FOR IT.
I took a class in anatomy drawing years ago at Otis Parsons Art Institute in L.A..one day a week, for 12 or 16 weeks ,I think...It was well worth it...had a good teacher,..great models, and of
course a skeleton....found out not just the muscles names and placements, but more importantly,...how they funtion, in relation to each other...with the model demonstrating the
actions of the muscles, with each movement the body is capeable of.
I had to drive 70 miles each way,...to get to class, but knew I would have a much better chance of achiveing my goal if I took that class.
Glad to hear you bought a skeleton...will make understanding that much more easier...always helps, when you can touch what you are working with, or from...:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Helen-Baq
07-06-2006, 05:46 PM
I agree with Spiritdreamer, find yourself an anatomy class. It helps so much to have an instructor who can show you and to whom you can ask questions. If you can build muscles on your skeleton - do it! I'm so jealous... Learn the muscles - their shape, origin, insertion, and fiber direction, and voila! you have their actions. I TA'd for one of the best Kinesiology instructors and she had one really simple, really good rule of thumb for determining muscle actions - muscles get shorter. That's all they do. That's all they can do. They bring the origin and insertion closer together. If you know where they attach and their fiber direction you can determine what they do. :)

And... touch your skeleton a lot. Move it around. Look at everything closely. It helps so much to have one around. The skeletons in my anatomy classes were my best friend. Oh... and another thing - if you can find a willing participant - draw the muscles on them (with washable markers, of course). Don't try to learn more than a small group of muscles at a time. Pick, say, the shoulder and learn the muscles there. Make sure you feel familiar with them before you move on. :)

aLoneCuzzo
07-06-2006, 06:33 PM
Thanks for the words everyone! You're making me more excited that its coming in the mail!!

I'm in an anatomy class now, but we don't have a skeleton. Well maybe its moreso a figure drawing class, because we basically just draw from nude models. It's cool, but I wanted a more rigorous treatment of the body. There's no skeleton in our class either, I can't remember the last time I've seen one in real life so...

Those were really some great suggestions, I'll get on them once it comes in the mail, thanks again.

FateBringer
07-07-2006, 12:50 AM
Hi, AloneCuzzo

enjoyed looking through your thread. Great work here:thumbsup:

try scanning at a higher dpi range, I scan mine in at 400dpi, might help

Hmmm... there is a grave yard across the street from me.... can I borrow a shovel,
LOL, just kidding... about the shovel, I have a couple!

Keep up the good work

Mark

aLoneCuzzo
07-09-2006, 11:58 PM
Hey long time no post!

I took my time with this one... Pen again, but I tried scanning it w/ a higher resolution and still a lot of the subtler shadings didn't come in!! :rolleyes:

Oh well.. just gonna post.

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/child01.jpg

aLoneCuzzo
07-10-2006, 03:22 AM
2 gestures

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/gesture07.jpghttp://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/gesture08.jpg

Rebeccak
07-10-2006, 05:19 AM
aLoneCuzzo,

Lovely drawing of the child, that's a pleasure to look at. :) As well I think the gesture of the leg looks on the right is gorgeous, keep that up!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

daWinky
07-10-2006, 06:09 AM
Hey Jabari,

it's a pleasure to walk through your thread and see your experiments! Good starts with your painter pics and I especially like your strong pen studies:thumbsup: , even if you lose some details while scanning and I'm definitely curious to see more of them!:)

-sabrina

Helen-Baq
07-10-2006, 08:53 AM
Ok, send some of that magic my way, because you're definately improving at an amazing pace! That portrait is beautiful! I love the expressiveness of it. :love: You're lines are getting soooo expressive. :D And, did I mention expressive?

SpiritDreamer
07-10-2006, 12:20 PM
Hi....CUZZ .....:bounce: :applause: ........:thumbsup: ... :)

FANTASTIC little ink drawing of that child....REALLY BEAUTIFUL.....:applause:
On the leg gesture....make the bottom of the ...S....shape or curve...wrap around the outside
or back of the calif muscle....runs from the front upper thigh...hip,.....thru the knee,..and over the backside of the calif muscle.

On the subject of classes....ANATOMICAL DRAWING, is the class you are looking for, if you want to really study bone and muscle strcture... their relationship to each other, and their
funtion in creating motion ect.......TOTALLY different from a life drawing class, and will make your life drawing classes a real pleasure, because you will have a deeper understanding of what is happening under the surface of the figure, to creat the forms on the surface, for each pose and gesture.
KEEP UP THE ...GREAT WORK and PROGRESS....A REAL PLEASURE SEEING BOTH..:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Zephyri
07-10-2006, 06:05 PM
Really lovely work throughout, and definite signs of improvement all round. I really admire people who have the guts to work in ink, something I've not picked up the courage to try. And if you're still wanting to get to grips with painter, I can only suggest giving yourself an hour or two and trying out all the brushes on a blank canvas. It makes such a big difference when you find the right brushes to suit your workflow. Working with ones that don't suit you can be hellish and somewhat demoralising when it comes to digital painting. Once you've mastered those you like you can experiment and branch out.

aLoneCuzzo
07-16-2006, 01:40 PM
OMG! I know it's like 10 days later, but thank you everyone for your comments / insights!!

I was really happy and felt very encouraged!

@Zephyri- Thanks for the insights on painter. I'm going out of town this week for work, so a lot of my off time will be spent in the hotel drawing or probably outside, but I'm definitely going to try your suggestion with the painter brushes.

@SpiritDreamer- Thanks for the comments about the kid's face!! Yeah, I figured there was something I was missing in terms of the differences of the classes. I had no idea. Haha! *Still waiting on my skeleton to come in the mail. I just got an easel the other day and I've been practicing with sanguine.

@Helen-Baq- THAAAANK YOU SO MUCH!! It's like everytime I compare my work to real life or a master's work, it feels like you know its lacking so much. But I guess that's the point, and then when I read your words and look at my old stuff, I can definitely see an improvement. So thank you again!

@daWinky- Thanks! I'm gonna post some pen stuff now even though I was frustrated that day... Haha your words definitely helped because I was thinking about throwing in the towel on scanning pen stuff. Haha! Thanks!

@Rebeccak- Thanks... I'm really trying to get this gesture stuff down before moving onto details and stuff. I really have read and feel like that a good gesture really is the foundation of a well done figure drawing. I saw the email about your class! *excited! Oh yeah, I'm going to be in DC most of the week for work, are there any good drawing spots that you know of? Haha @ 'any good drawing spots...' I'm doing a job at the Smithsonian Postal Museum and I think I'm staying at a hotel near there. I'm not sure of the area too well. Thanks again!

http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/gesture09.jpg
http://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/gesture10.jpghttp://alonecuzzo.com/comps/anatomy/gesture11.jpg

Rebeccak
07-17-2006, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by aLoneCuzzo: @Rebeccak- Thanks... I'm really trying to get this gesture stuff down before moving onto details and stuff. I really have read and feel like that a good gesture really is the foundation of a well done figure drawing. I saw the email about your class! *excited! Oh yeah, I'm going to be in DC most of the week for work, are there any good drawing spots that you know of? Haha @ 'any good drawing spots...' I'm doing a job at the Smithsonian Postal Museum and I think I'm staying at a hotel near there. I'm not sure of the area too well. Thanks again!
Where are you staying? :) Of course, any place is good to sketch. Unfortunately my family is in town this week, so I won't be able to show you around...but the mall area (the gynormous lawn that stretches between the Washington Monument and the Capitol Building) is a great place to sketch ~ always tons of people there, especially since it's summer! :) Glad to hear that you're excited about the Workshop! That's really cool! :)

There's a lovely sinewyness (is that a word? :)) to your latest drawings ~ really enjoy the natural sensibility that you have with these. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

aLoneCuzzo
07-18-2006, 02:16 AM
aww! I'm flattered that you'd actually show me around!

IT IS SO HOT HERE! It hit like 100 today!! I'm staying right near the Capitol building near Union Station. We're doing some engineering work for the Smithsonian Postal Museum.

Thx for the compliment on the sketches... still tryin to bang it out.

Rebeccak
07-19-2006, 06:46 AM
aLoneCuzzo,

Np, I hope you really enjoy DC! Definitely take time to explore the museums if you get the chance ~ in particular, the West Wing of the National Gallery of Art and the Natural History Museum (though the latter is really mostly for kids). The last time I was at the Natl. Gallery, they had an excellent drawing show up ~ definitely try to see if it's still there! It was on the lower floor of the West Wing:

National Gallery of Art (http://www.nga.gov/exhibitions/index.shtm#woodner)

Master Drawings from the Woodner Collections (http://www.nga.gov/exhibitions/index.shtm#woodner)April 30ľNovember 26, 2006West Building, Central GalleryAlso there is the Hirschorn Sculpture Museum and several other smaller art museums, like the Corcoran Gallery of Art, but the National Gallery is really the best. The West Wing houses Classical Art while the East Wing is devoted to Modern Art. (I hang out in the West Wing when I go). ;)

I definitely hope you enjoy your stay in DC! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

NR43
07-19-2006, 09:19 PM
Hey aLoneCuzzo,

just to say fanx for inspiring and encouraging meh.
your work is great and I'll definetely follow your progress

aLoneCuzzo
08-02-2006, 03:38 PM
I'M BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!

From the dead that is!

Got my skeleton in the mail FINALLY!

I've been doing some stuff with sanguine etc. on this big pad I have... Maybe I'll take soem pictures or something of it... But back to pen stuff...


Wow hadn't realized how long it had been...

SpiritDreamer
08-03-2006, 11:41 AM
Hi....CUZZ....:)

So you finally got your skeleton....:thumbsup:
You might try a little sculpting with it.....buy a couple of pounds of that NON DRYING clay, sold in art stores...great stuff..and form the muscles onto the bone of the skull....hand ...arm ...ect.....wrap the bone first with
that clear thin plastc wrap,...the kind you use for wrapping food ect.,...so you don't stain the bone....SCULPTING MUSCLE onto bone, is a great way to practice anatomy. Muscles will stick in your mind and memory better, when you can feel them, and shape them with your hands..
and those memories from sculpting will show up in your drawings and paintings also.:)
Lookiing forward to seeing more of your work... :thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rist
08-03-2006, 01:32 PM
I will edit this or repost with more, but I got a aching head, so just a quick comment for now :D

It seems your confidence is growing with all round drawing, try dabbling into colour, you will learn more that way. Check out my theory (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=388297), hopefully some of it may make some sense.

aLoneCuzzo
08-03-2006, 01:44 PM
Hey thanks for the love!

-Glen... Thanks for the advice. How do I know where to put the muscles on? Haha! might be a dumb question. But I'll get the clay tomorrow.

-Fl3wk... Thanks for the push. I'll go for it. Funny thing is I LOVE color, which is why I avoid it. Haha! I'm checking your link out now.

THAAAAAAAAAAAANK YOOOOOOOOOOU! I'll post some stuff when I get home...

Rist
08-03-2006, 01:55 PM
-Glen... Thanks for the advice. How do I know where to put the muscles on?

Well, I recommend this book for that (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0316875236/sr=8-25/qid=1154613262/ref=sr_1_25/026-8180941-0294020?ie=UTF8&s=gateway), unlike Burne Hogarths series, this actually goes into detail about muscles and bones and where they are located. The text can be complicate, very complicated, but the images are fine, and useful.

NR43
10-12-2006, 12:49 PM
Hey,

did you get to draw any bits and parts from the skeleton you bought?
Or are you still puzzling to fit them all together :D

Would love to see you gettin' some stuff up here again!

aLoneCuzzo
11-22-2006, 05:44 PM
Hey everyone! I'm back from the dead... I'll post something soon enough... Just moved... Hope everyone is okay!

aLoneCuzzo
07-22-2007, 04:22 AM
its been a while...

http://alonecuzzo.com/images/fukamerica.jpg

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