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ParamountCell
06-17-2006, 01:28 AM
http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6152862.html

PS3 bundle-palooza opens with $1,000-plus pack

European retailer Play.com lists 60GB PlayStation 3 with three games for 549 pounds ($1,016).

By Tim Surette (http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/profile/index.php?user=timspot), GameSpot (http://www.gamespot.com/) Posted Jun 16, 2006 11:11 pm GMT

In the completely unsurprising department, the first PlayStation 3 bundle from an online retailer has hit the Net, and it's expensive. Gamers who thought the initial Xbox 360 bundles (http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6131781.html) were pricey at a minimum of $600 should sit down before reading the next sentence. Play.com (http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/4-/1032615/-/Product.html?searchstring=PS3) is selling the PlayStation 3 with the 60GB hard drive and three games for 549 pounds, roughly $1,016. The three games included are Warhawk, Formula One 06, and SingStar--perfect for gamers who like air combat, driving, and karaoke games.

Of course the PlayStation 3, like most gaming products, will be more expensive across the pond relative to the US market. The 60GB PS3 was announced (http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6149470.html) to launch in Europe for 599 euros or 425 pounds, which is the American equivalent of $758 and $799, respectively.

Assuming the previously reported (http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6151565.html) 425-pound price point is to remain true in the UK, it would mean that Play.com would be selling the three games for 124 pounds ($230), or just over 41 pounds per game (just over $76). The early bird also won't necessarily get the worm--Play.com does not guarantee delivery of the bundles before Christmas.

Sticker shock isn't likely to be done yet. Gamers may remember the ridiculous $4,499 Xbox 360 bundles (http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6134770.html) that were released, which included a 42-inch plasma screen television. Bundles are the perfect way for retailers to make some extra cash with high-demand items, and it's likely that online retailers will have similar ideas for both the PS3 and Nintendo's Wii.

And remember, this is all before tax and shipping charges.

DevilHacker
06-17-2006, 01:44 AM
WOW!
who in their right mind woulf pay that much for a system!
You could get an processor upgrade along with an SLI setup for that cash.
:shrug:

innermindseye
06-17-2006, 03:59 AM
that is just too much. on the levels of 'crazy' expensive. and what a lame selection of titles. hoenstly. and people complained about the 360 line up BIGtime. mostly all the ps fanboys. i am seeing the end of sony. 1st flop psp/umd, 2nd flop ps3/bluray.

noisewar
06-17-2006, 07:59 AM
Hmm... same amount of money could probably pay bail if I chose to rob someone else's PS3 at launch instead...

Geta-Ve
06-17-2006, 08:33 AM
that is just too much. on the levels of 'crazy' expensive. and what a lame selection of titles. hoenstly. and people complained about the 360 line up BIGtime. mostly all the ps fanboys. i am seeing the end of sony. 1st flop psp/umd, 2nd flop ps3/bluray.


you wish it was the end of sony. psp is doing well, and ps3 has so many ip's it's not even funny. people will buy the ps3 no matter what the price.

Hawke
06-17-2006, 10:08 AM
To be totally fair to play.com that does include tax and shipping (in the UK tax is normally included in the listed price as it is the same rate throughout the whole of the country and there is no 'out of state' exepmtion as in the US). However, I wouldn't (and won't) pay that and if I won't you can bet other people won't either. For that amount of money there are considerably less frivalous things I would rather buy and the simple fact of the matter is it will be substantially cheaper in a years time.

Lone Deranger
06-17-2006, 11:41 AM
hahahahah.... Sony's taking the pi$$

Instead, when Sony's starting to get real desperate I might pick up one of the old gen. JPN PS2's when they hit below £50... until then.. no thanks :p

victor throe
06-17-2006, 12:19 PM
wow!!!

i cant wait not to buy this.

innermindseye
06-17-2006, 12:56 PM
you wish it was the end of sony. psp is doing well, and ps3 has so many ip's it's not even funny. people will buy the ps3 no matter what the price.

sounds like a bunch of misguided fools to me. when most of the titles are cross platform and many companies have gone on record saying they will not make different versions for each console why would i bother spending twice as much money? cos im iv been brain washed by this 'playstation' phenomenon and im all part of the hype engine?

this company cant even think and make thier own decisiions on how a game console should funtion that they have to wait and steal the ideas from the best, and throw everything in this all in one media device toaster oven

The psp is doing so well that their killing off the movie section, and actually releasing a new psp without the umd drive. I know so many people with a psp, and none of them bring it out anymore. And none of them bother to complain how it takes too long to load and how their are no more games coming out.

Ps3 has so many problems its not even funny, and yes your right, i DO wish for the end of sony. Theyve been holding back the evolution of gaming for too long now and theyve just got the dodgiest, sheistiest tactics as a company. Xbox pushed the capabilities forward years ago, while ps2 stagnated and kept its vice like grip on the brainwashed masses. Even now, yet agaun, theur holding back the evolution of gaming. cos they cant decide how much, and what exactly they are going to steal.

poly-phobic
06-17-2006, 02:39 PM
Hmm... same amount of money could probably pay bail if I chose to rob someone else's PS3 at launch instead...

lmao
:D

and if u live in jersey, u can probaly still have 430$ left to get you a Wii or 360

archerx
06-17-2006, 03:04 PM
for $1000 I can buy a Wii and way more than 3 games.... hell you could buy a xbox 360 and way more than 3 games...


Sony what the hell are you smoking? you make such nice cameras... why must you mess up here?

innermindseye
06-17-2006, 03:06 PM
you wish it was the end of sony. psp is doing well, and ps3 has so many ip's it's not even funny. people will buy the ps3 no matter what the price.

you sound very optimistic. ps3 has so little good IPs that it is funny they are selling their console for so much. the world is in a recession now. if we werent, theni would say the ps3 would sell no problem. That however is not the case. people are working hard for thier moeny these days and saving. $1000 on a GAMES console is pretty rediculous with 50$ plus for each game.

People cant afford this unless they are very well off. i know i couldnt afford it. i love games more than the next guy, and obviously id love a ps3, but no way no how am i paying out the nose to fatten sonys pockets again. Other companies are offering me the same thing at a much more affordable bracket. No way in hell am i gonna support the blu ray format and any other propriety crap that sony wanna force down my throat.

PyRoT
06-17-2006, 03:13 PM
Yeah, I mean, if you JUST wanted to game and watch blu-ray than this might be better than a PC but even still I am not convincned. The fact is it a PC would do much much MUCH more than game. I also doubt blu-ray will be that big. I seriously dont' see the market for it. Too much investment for too little benefit.

Couple it with the fact that it will probably not last anywhere near the amount of a time a PC wil last you. This is especially a big deal when individual components fail. Imagine you had to replace your PC everytime your power supply, DVD Drive or any component busted up!

I really like that bail comment :D Classic!

tozz
06-17-2006, 03:15 PM
It will sell... oh yes it will sell. Doesn't matter what the same people on cgtalk keeps screaming.

"You get a new CPU and a SLI setup". Yeah, you could probably get a new dishwasher, an old used car or a fancy lawnmower, what's your point? Doesn't matter what you "can get", it's what you actually get, in this case a PS3. And neither the PC or the home appliances will let you play the games, weakest argument ever (and yet it keeps poping up). Same goes for Wii and 360, they don't play the PS3 games, and the PS3 games is what people will be buying the PS3 for, pretty simple no?

Not last as long as a PC? A PC is old after 2years, totally dead to be honest (if you want to play games that is), at least consoles have a life span of 5years or so.

HellBoy
06-17-2006, 03:24 PM
Holy Moly

naah thanks, I can wait

PyRoT
06-17-2006, 03:31 PM
It will sell... oh yes it will sell. Doesn't matter what the same people on cgtalk keeps screaming.

"You get a new CPU and a SLI setup". Yeah, you could probably get a new dishwasher, an old used car or a fancy lawnmower, what's your point? Doesn't matter what you "can get", it's what you actually get, in this case a PS3. And neither the PC or the home appliances will let you play the games, weakest argument ever (and yet it keeps popping up). Same goes for Wii and 360, they don't play the PS3 games, and the PS3 games is what people will be buying the PS3 for, pretty simple no?

Not last as long as a PC? A PC is old after 2years, totally dead to be honest (if you want to play games that is), at least consoles have a life span of 5years or so.

I agree with the games thing. However, it is a high price to pay..especially when both systems will share many games and then you have the Wii which will offer lots of fun games for a fraction of the cost.

As for PC's, I disagree. Sure they may be dead after 2 years if you always want to set the latest games on maximum quality. However, if you buy a PC today, you can in 2 years simply start scaling the graphics down with newer games. This way the games will still all be available to you but simply not at the "next-gen" graphical level. This often can be equivalent to playing some PS3 games on a PS2. Additionally, mods and expansions constantly add to the replayability of older games. I must also mention games again. Due to the backwards compatibility of PC's, you can go back and play games from 20 years ago! Forget launch titles, the amount of PC games available is mindblowing. I also love to alt-tab out of games that I am playing to chat to friends outside of the game, surf the Internet, do homework etc. My universal hotkeys for winamp also add a lot to my PC's comfort.

Tomek

TimMehmet
06-17-2006, 03:45 PM
Yikes that is asking just a bit too much.. but will this be the end of sony? please no way. The ps3 will probably not do as well as the ps2 did, but thats not to say it wont do well, and Im quite sure itll still do better then the wii sadly. When the price goes down on this in 2 years or so and is alot more affordable to the average joe and their screaming kids, Im sure itll get bigtime sales.

SheepFactory
06-17-2006, 04:20 PM
I'll be getting one but definitely not a bundle.

tozz
06-17-2006, 04:49 PM
I agree with the games thing. However, it is a high price to pay..especially when both systems will share many games and then you have the Wii which will offer lots of fun games for a fraction of the cost.

As for PC's, I disagree. Sure they may be dead after 2 years if you always want to set the latest games on maximum quality. However, if you buy a PC today, you can in 2 years simply start scaling the graphics down with newer games. This way the games will still all be available to you but simply not at the "next-gen" graphical level. This often can be equivalent to playing some PS3 games on a PS2. Additionally, mods and expansions constantly add to the replayability of older games. I must also mention games again. Due to the backwards compatibility of PC's, you can go back and play games from 20 years ago! Forget launch titles, the amount of PC games available is mindblowing. I also love to alt-tab out of games that I am playing to chat to friends outside of the game, surf the Internet, do homework etc. My universal hotkeys for winamp also add a lot to my PC's comfort.

Tomek
Well the PS3 is fully backwards compatible (At least for PS2) so the same applies there. Sure you can scale down both details and effects, but then you're not playing the game as it's supposed to be. It's like buying a PS3 game in 2years and you have to lower the resolution and texture detail, it's not acceptable on the console platform so comparing the two should be done equaly. The PC and console world is totally different, I agree, therefor comparing the two makes no sense, you pay for different things.

archerx
06-17-2006, 05:51 PM
Not last as long as a PC? A PC is old after 2years, totally dead to be honest (if you want to play games that is), at least consoles have a life span of 5years or so.

Tell that to my 3 year old pc, I can run any game at decent quality and pretty fast... so yea :rolleyes:

I've haven't seen any games for the PS3 that would make me want to spend $800.

how about i get a PC and play PS1 & PS2 games? yea emulators rock and i can pick up used games for $10....

there is nothing to justify paying that much for a PS3, the games? right.... so metal gear looks cool but is it worth $800? No, no its not...

GoranNF
06-17-2006, 06:08 PM
Sony just spent too much money on expensive hardware and blue ray.The PS3 has 7 cores right?And about emulating playstation games on your pc,could you tell me an emulator that can emulate all the ps2 games?And if you want to emulate a ps3 game,then you really need an high-end PC.And about pcs getting tool old after 2 years,that's not true.Look at the guild wars system requirements:

Windows XP/2000/ME/98
800 MHz Pentium III or equivalent
256 MB RAM
ATI Radeon 8500 or GeForce 3 or 4 MX with 32MB of video memory
500 MB hard drive space
Internet connection
DirectX 8.0
Those requirements are really not high,even old pcs can handle it.

tozz
06-17-2006, 06:09 PM
"decent quality and pretty fast"... hello mr orange, I'm mr apple...
As I said, those arguments are wort 0 when talking about console games, so if you're gonna compare, do a serious comparison. What's decent? For me decent is 1920*1200, for someone else it's 800*600.

MGS4 isn't $800 from what I've read, and please, are you judging a 5+year game library that you know nothing about today? Got a huge crystal ball I assume. It's like saying, "I don't want to play red steel and tennis, so Wii sucks ass." or "Halo3 is boring, why should I buy an XBOX360". All three statements are insane. Just look at how the PS2 library grew and matured, and how sales went accordingly. I find the PS3 launch library worthless, but I wouldn't go around and say that's all the games it will have, and I know for a fact there will better games in all areas down the road (as for all consoles).

The PS2 was $450-500 here in Sweden at launch, worth it then? Hell no, worth it 2years later, Hell yes. People that put out $800-1000 at launch do it as an investment, they know they will get good games down the road, there's really no question about it.

GoranNF (http://member.php?u=208103): Have you seen guild wars running at minimum sys req? Those stickers are there to make people with low end systems buy the games.

TumikSmacker
06-17-2006, 07:12 PM
Feels like buying it off ebay for a stupid amount of money. Personally I would wait until the price goes down, there's always those die hard fans out there though.

PyRoT
06-17-2006, 07:27 PM
"decent quality and pretty fast"... hello mr orange, I'm mr apple...
As I said, those arguments are wort 0 when talking about console games, so if you're gonna compare, do a serious comparison. What's decent? For me decent is 1920*1200, for someone else it's 800*600.

I guess that is another bonus with PC's, If I am happy with 1024*768 then I don't need to worry about having enough hardware to run HD resolution. They are different to an extent and hard to compare but I personally think its better to have a PC. Loading times are usually shorter too. Just more customizable and its all setup to be able to comfortbaly play FPS and RTS. Personally, I don't even see how you can properly play GTA with a gamepad. Mainly the aiming. But for some games, I do have a controller. A logitech controller much more comfrtable than any "industry standard" PS3 controller.

In summary I love my PC :)
However, for games, yes, some sets of games are great and that is why I got my PS1 when the PS2 came out.

Tomek

EpShot
06-17-2006, 07:45 PM
Tozz, if what you say is true, and in 2 years current pc tech blows todays PC tech out of the water, then i'm going ot be laughing my ass off because i havent' seen anything on the ps3 that looked better than FEAR or Crysis(which is running on an emulated version of dx10)

btw, my tech is 2 years old and i can play oblivian just fine.

personal yi don't care how expensive the consoles are, i'll just buy it when comes down and if its in 3 years, i'll jsut ahve a nice game selection to choose from. but it will defenitely come after i get the other two consoles.

kmest
06-17-2006, 07:48 PM
ican buy a powerfull PC with that money,make it rnder my scenes faster on network....deliver my projects faster and make more money...why should i spend my money for that???
and with 1000$ i can visit some countries........

P_T
06-17-2006, 08:13 PM
sounds like a bunch of misguided fools to me. when most of the titles are cross platform and many companies have gone on record saying they will not make different versions for each console why would i bother spending twice as much money? cos im iv been brain washed by this 'playstation' phenomenon and im all part of the hype engine?

Same reason why people bought Xbox and 360 when most of their games are available on PC, specially with that LIVE ANYWHERE being planned, PREFERENCE.

The same reason why a lot of people got 360 for the next Halo, there are also a lot of people who love MGS/FF/GT franchise and WILL get PS3 for these games.

Ps3 has so many problems its not even funny, and yes your right, i DO wish for the end of sony. Theyve been holding back the evolution of gaming for too long now and theyve just got the dodgiest, sheistiest tactics as a company. Xbox pushed the capabilities forward years ago, while ps2 stagnated and kept its vice like grip on the brainwashed masses. Even now, yet agaun, theur holding back the evolution of gaming. cos they cant decide how much, and what exactly they are going to steal.

Xbox pushed the capabilities forward? by pretty much putting an old PC Pentium3 and a modem in a box? It wasn't that much better than the PS2 apart from the fact that it had more games that suited western taste. Better graphic? God of War and Shadow of the Colossus beg to differ.

It's so easy to bag Sony coz of their past blunders but when they do something right, everyone's gonna flock back to them. It's like with Nintendo with their controller. Check their threads before E3, there were a few threads with a lot of negative comments. Fast forwarded to after E3 and you'll see a lot of the same people singing a different tune.

I don't want Sony's PS to end coz I don't want MS to dominate console market like they do with PC OS market, you know what Windows is like, you want the same thing for your console?

SoLiTuDe
06-17-2006, 08:38 PM
Now... I don't know exactly how this works... but doesn't the retailer to some extent actually control the pricing? I know with some things it's flat across the board, but isn't the idea that they buy it cheaper than they sell it? They could be bumping up the prices of these things to an extremely higher level than it even needs to be. I'm not on Sony's side, as I'm sure they're selling it at a pretty high price to the retailers... but still.

noisewar
06-17-2006, 11:10 PM
Well the PS3 is fully backwards compatible (At least for PS2) so the same applies there.

Assuming you have the $600 version, since the $500 version lacks the memory card slots to make backwards-compatibility worth a damn.

archerx
06-17-2006, 11:50 PM
so tozz are you on sony's pay roll or something :shrug:

you seem so aggressive! relax dude, its just a console to play games, don't take it so seriously!

chill out man, take a deep breath and go outside for a while and forget about the ps3, xbox360 and wii.

It's supposed to be fun ;)

but yea im not going to argue with you because you're obviously a fan boy :D

enjoy paying you $800 for your ps3

and my statment for metal gear costing $800 is that you obviously need the console to play it and thats the only game of interest so far for the ps3 so infact it would be $850 to play metal gear so far.....

HellBoy
06-18-2006, 12:03 AM
I'm waiting till MGS4 or Killzone2 comes out, I can just imagine GAME store selling it for £999 with few games, Daaayuumm

ParamountCell
06-18-2006, 12:13 AM
lets relax guys, the article is saying that play.com are doing a bundle with 3 games for a grand, it is still alot of money though. One thing I can say about sony is they know how to create hype, people will buy the ps3, even on launch day, sony could sell a turd in a plastic bag, and say that it is a new form of smell technology and fanboys will buy it, however, im not sure that that many people will want to buy it on the 1st few months, I could be wrong.

tozz
06-18-2006, 12:32 AM
so tozz are you on sony's pay roll or something :shrug:

you seem so aggressive! relax dude, its just a console to play games, don't take it so seriously!

chill out man, take a deep breath and go outside for a while and forget about the ps3, xbox360 and wii.

It's supposed to be fun ;)

but yea im not going to argue with you because you're obviously a fan boy :D

enjoy paying you $800 for your ps3

and my statment for metal gear costing $800 is that you obviously need the console to play it and thats the only game of interest so far for the ps3 so infact it would be $850 to play metal gear so far.....
I'm very relaxed, it's just so tiresome with all the non-related and unfounded posts relating to nothing. What does Wii and XBOX360 have to with PS3 price? Nothing. It would be interesting if a thread regarding one console would be about that console, and not the rest of the electronic world (goes for any thread).
Yeah, a typical fanboy is one who claims the E3 presentation was shit and that Sony has screwed up royaly, excellent argument there, degree? Still if it makes you feel good, by all means do call me a fanboy.
The PS3 is not $800, if you're going to specify prices, please use the correct ones, this thread is obviously created to flame (check who the author is).
I seem agressive? At least I'm talking about what the thread is about, why can't you?

Edit:
Come to think about it, how is this related to CG News at all? It's a store bundle, has nothing to with Sony really.

ParamountCell
06-18-2006, 01:09 AM
this thread is obviously created to flame (check who the author is).


I do wish people would stop making assumtions like that, its getting quite tiresome. If I post lots of nintendo news Im called a fanboy and I get banned, when I post about other big events within the gaming industry I am posting for the sake of flaming? Stop it....

ExKArt
06-18-2006, 06:18 AM
Wow enough with the constant PS3 cost news. Everyone knows already geez.
Well while I'm here mind as well pu tin my 2 cents. First off other than Japan and the US, Playstation consoles always sell for more everywhere else.

Common Sense: Premium Version of PS3 = 599.99 add 3 games at 59.99 each (which is the same price as 360 newly released games are) will equal 779.96 US dollars. excluding tax. Even add a controller and it's still below 1000. Which means this is just another flame post on PS3's price.


I do wish people would stop making assumtions like that, its getting quite tiresome. If I post lots of nintendo news Im called a fanboy and I get banned, when I post about other big events within the gaming industry I am posting for the sake of flaming? Stop it....

how is it a big event?
Everyone knows or can easily find out how much PS3 costs and games. Becuase some company has a $1000 bundle isn't not important. However if anything PS3 or Wii is posted, there will be fanboys and flamers that will come out of nowhere to sa that say things. Over and over again.



As regards to people who think Playstation fans as stupid and misguided, and people who think they know exactly all the games will be available at launch. I just have one thing to say.

They said the same thing about PS and PS2.

ExKArt
06-18-2006, 07:09 AM
double post

SheepFactory
06-18-2006, 07:30 AM
I really dont get the "you can build a PC for that money" arguments. Its like saying for the price of this speedboat I can buy a nice car instead.

Also dont understand why most people are acting like sony ran over their dog and took a shit in their frontyard. you get what you pay for with the 600$ system , its cheaper than any blu-ray player currently on the market , it comes with everything included from wi-fi to a nice big hd (compared to the competition) and it will have some kick ass games coming out for it in the near future. If its out of your price range wait till the price drops or get one of the alternative consoles which are cheaper instead of coming here and bragging about what a kickass PC you would be able to build for the price of a ps3.

archerx
06-18-2006, 07:32 AM
You see tozz, the other topics i talk about in the thread are related and serve some purpose, yes i know it may come as a shock to you but its true.Oh trust me, when the PS3 reaches here it will probably cost way more than $800.

"I'm very relaxed" you say that but do you mean it?

anyways im done with this thread.

DevilHacker
06-18-2006, 09:05 AM
It's so easy to bag Sony coz of their past blunders but when they do something right, everyone's gonna flock back to them. It's like with Nintendo with their controller. Check their threads before E3, there were a few threads with a lot of negative comments. Fast forwarded to after E3 and you'll see a lot of the same people singing a different tune.Ya, criticizing an company for their track record… we must be crazy!
What were we thinking?… we should just blindly look forward and hope that they do good. Forget their past failures and screw-up’s.

I don't want Sony's PS to end coz I don't want MS to dominate console market like they do with PC OS market, you know what Windows is like, you want the same thing for your console?That would actually be nice. I have not had one single problem with Windows XP. In fact I am using Office 2007 running on Windows Vista to type this reply up right now, and I can say that if this software/OS is any clue to the direction Microsoft is heading with their future projects… the future looks bright. I see what your saying about market dominance. But your reasons are flawed. We should want Sony to stay around because of their commitment to the gaming industry. Not for fear from another competitor.

I'm waiting till MGS4 or Killzone2 comes out, I can just imagine GAME store selling it for £999 with few games, DaaayuummYa, same here. Those look like they will be very fun games. As for £999... I will wait for it to come down in price... Maybe around $300 for the version with HDMI.


[EDIT]
PS: I can see Wii bundles coming out for $500+... so dont everyone count the chickins' before they hatch.

csutcliffe
06-18-2006, 09:19 AM
As I recall, some standalone DVD players cost about what a PS3 will cost when they first come out. I don't see what the problem is with the price of the PS3? It might mean that some people can't afford it - I can't afford a Porsche / Ferrari or a Bang & Olufsen T.V. so guess what - I'm not going to buy one and I'm certainly not going to be bitter about it.

For your cash you get what looks to be a great games machine and High Definition DVD player - I'm sold and I'll definately being buying one plus a HDTV when they come out. I just can't wait to play a next gen Gran Turismo in HD (not the GT4 respin BTW).

P_T
06-18-2006, 11:22 AM
we should just blindly look forward and hope that they do good. Forget their past failures and screw-up’s.
From what I read in your post about Vista, that's exactly what you're doing no? Forget about MS past blunders, the future looks bright indeed with MS dominating the home entertainment console market

I see what your saying about market dominance. But your reasons are flawed. We should want Sony to stay around because of their commitment to the gaming industry. Not for fear from another competitor.
How's Sony's commitment to the gaming industry any different to MS? They both try to make money and dominate the console market. The only thing that differentiate them is their marketing strategy in the way they sell their consoles.

Besides, it's not about fear from another competitor. If Sony's out of the picture, what makes you think MS is not going to increase their price? Basic economic law of supply and demand says they will.

ParamountCell
06-18-2006, 11:56 AM
Wow enough with the constant PS3 cost news. Everyone knows already geez.
Well while I'm here mind as well pu tin my 2 cents. First off other than Japan and the US, Playstation consoles always sell for more everywhere else.

Common Sense: Premium Version of PS3 = 599.99 add 3 games at 59.99 each (which is the same price as 360 newly released games are) will equal 779.96 US dollars. excluding tax. Even add a controller and it's still below 1000. Which means this is just another flame post on PS3's price.

how is it a big event?
Everyone knows or can easily find out how much PS3 costs and games. Becuase some company has a $1000 bundle isn't not important. However if anything PS3 or Wii is posted, there will be fanboys and flamers that will come out of nowhere to sa that say things. Over and over again.


Its big news to some of us because one of the major players in the gaming industry, are releasing a new powerful console, and a company is selling a bundle for a price that may well be out of many gamers price range for a few years, try telling them that it isnt big news. Regardless of wether or not some of you view this as big news or not, it doesnt mean that some one should come to the wrong conclusion, that I have created this thread for the sake of flaming. If there is anything going on within the industry that I consider to be news, I will post it, especially If it is to do with the major players, and If it involves innovation. If some people are to be believed I guess I created the thread on sonys eye of judgment for the sake of flaming, and on sonys new patent on shape changing technology, for the sake of flaming, and not because I considered these to be innovative.

innermindseye
06-18-2006, 12:28 PM
Same reason why people bought Xbox and 360 when most of their games are available on PC, specially with that LIVE ANYWHERE being planned, PREFERENCE.

The same reason why a lot of people got 360 for the next Halo, there are also a lot of people who love MGS/FF/GT franchise and WILL get PS3 for these games.

Ive got 11 games on my 360. The only ones you can get on PC is farcry instincts, tomb raider and bf2 (which is very difrent on pc). But i prefer fight night round 3, pgr 3, burnout revenge, tiger woods, geometry wars etc.... I bought a 360 cos it was 280 pounds and works as good as a 1500 pound computer. My pc was starting to suck and a 360 was cheaper than my last geforce 6800 upgrade (£350) and is actually faaar more powerful. It was a no brainer.


Xbox pushed the capabilities forward? by pretty much putting an old PC Pentium3 and a modem in a box? It wasn't that much better than the PS2 apart from the fact that it had more games that suited western taste. Better graphic? God of War and Shadow of the Colossus beg to differ.

That 733mhz p3 processor is over 3 times more powerful than the 200mhz processor in the ps2. The modem was built in meaning every game could have live on it. Better graphics? Yes kick ass and all the way. Compare splinter cell games without real time shadows. Let alone self shadowing. I worked at EA doing testing for a very long time and by far the worst thing on ps2 was the loading times. It would take no time on pc, 5 seconds on xbox, 7-10 on GC, and a whole minute on ps2. no joke. Doing explorative playthroughs would take twice as long on ps2 than any other platform.

tozz
06-18-2006, 12:36 PM
What previous track record of the "games division" of Sony are people talking about? All I can think of is making the worlds' most successful console ever, and having a couple of the best rated games at that, is that a bad thing?
(This is the part where some kid screams "rootkits", well check out what division of Sony that came from...).

ParamountCell:
The price hasn't changed, it's still the same. I can put up a bundle for $50000 with alot of extras, is this also news? If this were an official package coming from Sony as the Microsoft Premium XBOX kit this would be news.

Totally offtopic:
DevilHacker, just recently MS admitted windows phone home every day with their WGA, is this the "bright future" you were talking about?

ParamountCell
06-18-2006, 01:09 PM
ParamountCell:
The price hasn't changed, it's still the same. I can put up a bundle for $50000 with alot of extras, is this also news? If this were an official package coming from Sony as the Microsoft Premium XBOX kit this would be news.


I never said the price has changed. If this wasnt news it wouldnt be in the news section of more than one gaming site, and I would not have been able to link the article. What I dont like is the assumption that I am posting this for the sake of flaming.

PyRoT
06-18-2006, 01:28 PM
Why can't wii all just get along? :D

SheepFactory
06-18-2006, 06:10 PM
This thread outlived its usefullness.