Races of Middle Earth - character - dur23

[azazel]

Very nice sketches, you captured their friendliness and wisdom :thumbsup:

[Remi]

Nice concept...I can hear his whispering deep voice...great work:thumbsup:

[dur23]

http://www.20threed.com/images/pimpin/lotr/Lor'akani_armour.jpg

This here is a rough idea of what his armour will look like. He needs to have some basic armour on him cause when those dragons are teething hes gotta have something for them to bite into. Thus the leather armour on his left arm. His right arm will have a glove on it but not the full arm armour, because he needs more mobility for using the whip and spear that he is equipped with. (which are rarely used, but are sometimes required).

Anyhoo off to draw the spear.

[Fetus23]

Awsome concept dur!!!...can't wait to see this one unfold into 3d!!:buttrock:

fetus

[cerreto]

hey nice armor looking good man !

[Gandalf]

Hey great concept and awesome idea :thumbsup:

[leigh]

Yeah that's looking awesome, Dur23!! :applause:
I love the armour that protects him from the teething :D
Be sure to add loads of scars from old working accidents!

[dur23]

azazel: hey thanks man...It took a lil while to try and make em look friendly. The wise part came with hair...:)

remi: hehe. Very very deep. Yet soothing...and soft...;)

Fetus: You better enter you bitch!!!

cerreto, Gandalf: thanks!

Leigh: Of course there going to be tones of lil and big scars from all the babies and teenage dragons. The arm armour is gonna be all cut up aswell cause of the damn teething. Thanks!!!


Started in on the modeling. Just roughing out the edgeloops for now. Will get into the finiky detail (moles, scratches etc etc...) later...:D

[Remi]

Looking good so far dur...keep it up man...dragon whiperer, what a cool concept...geat job:thumbsup:

[Clanger]

Excellent start, reminds me of Morn from DS9.

[BlueCougar]

Awesome, I like the look of him.

[RockinAkin]

Wow, great concept and very cool story.

The "Cold-Drakes" in your story sound a whole hell of a lot like the creature I've been working on. (see sig)
Maybe after this is all over, a collaboration project is in store? :D

Cant wait to see more!
-DivideByZero-

[Fetus23]

Nice start on the 3d man. Have a look...I entered last night, couldn't pass this one up... :)

fetus

[dur23]

Remi: hehe thanks! He doesn't want to whip to much tho. They only whip when they really really have to:)

Clanger: Is that the dood with the gold logo on his forehead?

BlueCougar: Thanks!

DivideByZero: Thanks. I never actually saw any pics of the "cold-drakes" but ya maybe we'll work something out;)

Fetusize: I noticed that. And then i added 5 of the bouncey guys to your thread. I also stole your socks! SUCKA!




UPDATE

[dur23]

spent about 30mins playing :eek:

[dur23]

just started in on the body...arms are almost done. The back, chest and stomach still need lots o lovin. Oh and hands to come.....there gonna be HUGE!!! :buttrock:

http://www.20threed.com/images/pimpin/lotr/wip3.jpg

[RockinAkin]

Looking great so far!
Cant wait to see the rest.

-DivideByZero-

[leigh]

Your model is coming along well :thumbsup:

Unfortunately I am the bearer of bad tidings though - for some reason, we made a rule that nobody can use hair plugins :cry:

[dur23]

DBZ: thanks!

Leigh: thanks. But no hair. Why mods why? But in XSI its not a plugin. Its built in :P Oh hell this just makes life a lil rougher:(

[foenix]

good modeling

[somlor]

Impressive as usual dur. You have quite a distinct style. I'm looking forward to updates.

:bounce:

(s)

[Fetus23]

Hey dur...awsome start on the body!!...and i know the texture work will be equally as good!!...I agree with you about the hair/fur...is middle earth full of hairless lizard beasts?.....i think not....hair plugins should definatly be allowed, especially in a texture and modeling challenge!!
Keep with the good work!!
:beer:
fetus

[Balur]

I think hair plugins are allowed but only if the hairs are very short. Not sure though.

[dur23]

hey challenge freaks!

foenix, somlor: Thanks!

freakus23: Thats what i said in my head. No hair is no fun! It's not like its really easy to make it look good. It takes a lot of tweakin to get right. DAMNIT. When you gonna update bitch!

Balur: Your correct. Damnit. I want hair!

Virtuoso: Thanks man. The face is the focus of my character i would say. Its really unfortunate that i can't use hair plugins to the long bits of hair. But ill make it work with planes anyway i guess. We'll see what happens.


Update.

http://www.20threed.com/images/pimpin/lotr/wip4.jpg

[OZ]

:eek: J A W D R O P P I N G!:eek:

[leigh]

That model is coming along really nicely :thumbsup:
The legs are looking very nice :)

And we have changed the hair/fur rule - you can use it, but only for short hair. This is to avoid peole from covering up dodgy modelling with loads of hair.

[Remi]

great job dur....keep going...and I had no idea we couldn't use hair...but I guess now we can so I have nothing to worry about either...:thumbsup:

[seantree]

great stuff Dur. Been missing ya over at PC, I guess I know where you've been hagning out :)

[dur23]

-OZ-: your waaaay to nice!! thanks!

Leigh: Schanks! So ya think that the amount of hair that my guy has is ok for this challenge?

Remi:Ima going!!!! WE can now use hair....sigh of relief it tell ya!

seantree: Thanks! I still check PC first everyday. Sometimes i post too:)


UPDATE
http://www.20threed.com/images/pimpin/lotr/wip5.jpg

[dur23]

hes gots dem feets

http://www.20threed.com/images/pimpin/lotr/wip6.jpg

Time to start kickin some really refined details ;)

[Fetus23]

OH YA!!...Thats looking SWEET.. mr. dur.
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

really nice hands...I can feel his weight....

who you call'n sucker!?!? ;)

[nibo]

This is coming along nicely,
But I think you should check the blending between his legmuscles and his butt. I think it should blend more.
But the rest looks very promesing!
:airguitar

[nadeemmar]

How in the hell i missed this thread :surprised


Great job dur23...

impressive work :buttrock: :buttrock:

keep posting:bounce: :bounce:

[dur23]

fetus: you can feel his weight eh? Wait till he pummels your ass!! hehe foo..;)

nibo:Thanks! Modified the butt to leg muscles, i know i gots lots of tweeking to do till the end. Unfortuanetly his butt will be mostly covered so.....hmmm....oi!

Nadeemmar: Its hard to see us amateurs, with all these pros pumpin out kickass work ;) THANKS



http://www.20threed.com/images/pimpin/lotr/wip7.jpg

[OZ]

o HOOo...:surprised ...very very good!...hah.....the body is perfect!:applause:

[Iguiniz.X.]

Great character, Really like it................:thumbsup:
No crit.. keep on going:wip:

[Equinoxx]

man o man, that's looking great

keep goin keep goin :D

[dur23]

hehe

most of the basic armour is now in place:D

http://www.20threed.com/images/pimpin/lotr/wip8.jpg
http://www.20threed.com/images/pimpin/lotr/wip_wire.jpg

[Rye]

This is looking so awesome Dur! I love the arm muscles the most, you did a great job modeling those. The leg muscles on the other hand look a little bit unfinished in comparison. The thighs dont seem to have much deifinition (which i guess isnt necessary if they'll be covered like that, but the calves could use a bit more. Right now it looks like its just one bigg bubble muscle on the back of his calf, but it should be split into two. Also the calves are about the same size as his thighs. Granted he's not human, so he can have whatever proportions you want, it just looks a little odd to me. Usually if the calves were that big, the thighs would be monstrously big.

You might waiting until you put your morph targets in, but his face doesn't look very gentle. He has almost a startled look on his face right now, it just doesnt match the gentle qualities of the concept painting.

Anyway keep up the good work :thumbsup:

All these great entries make me want to enter this challenge. :)

[Fetus23]

The cloths are coming along very nicely dur. I love how you present your wireframes...very classy :D...Amazing work man...keep going like this!!

:wavey:

[dur23]

Rye: thanks man for the great tips....i put a fair bit more definition in the calf region. Split the two muscles up and made them a bit smaller than the quads. I think ill more definition to the quads whilst im at it.
With face you should see him now that he has textures. He looks like hes shitting himself ;)...i believe its cause in the drawing his were a lil more closed and his mouth was closed. But the #1 reason is the hair. The hair makes him look soft and friendly. :)
We'll see. It's great to see you in this challenge. :) Thanks again!

Fetus: hehe classy:) The clothes are not yet done. But soon :)


Update on monday...

[dur23]

theres some subtle yet helpful sss thanks to andymans--transvol2 (http://www.andymator.co.uk/shaders/tranvol2/index.html). Which just got released yesterday...Its a beuty...anyone using XSI3 go give it a try....Its simple and fun:) Couple bugs with FG....but still damn fun..

On to the update....so his head is pretty much all textured up with all the maps in place....theres even one for the sss so that the ears and nose are more transy...the nose still needs tweaking, but that'll come in time.....and the ears even have viens where less light passes through....WEEEE! :)

pic:
http://www.20threed.com/images/pimpin/lotr/wip9.jpg

[nadeemmar]

:eek: :eek: :buttrock:

good work dur23

keep the good work:thumbsup:

[mv]

Great work! stylish and all... keep it up!:buttrock:

[Remi]

Great job....nice textures...like the eyes too...boss:buttrock:

[dur23]

thanks guys!

heres the concept for the staff...

http://www.20threed.com/images/pimpin/lotr/staff.jpg

[dur23]

http://www.20threed.com/images/pimpin/lotr/wip10.jpg

[swag]

superb modeling here - nice style :applause:

[Fetus23]

ruby ruby bo booby bannana nana fo foby ruuuby!! :) ;)
REALLY nice staff durby23...will it generate magical powers to calm the dragons? speaking of dragons...have you plans for one?!

:beer:
fetus

[Virtuoso]

In overall aspects I think all you have done thus far is really well done.I like the overall stlye and look.The modeling is very clean as well.Nice details already,with more to come it really is one to look forward to.

The staff is stylish in it's own rustic way,very nice as well.Keep up the very nice work Dur23.:thumbsup: :beer:

[dur23]

small update


http://www.20threed.com/images/pimpin/lotr/wip11.jpg
http://www.20threed.com/images/pimpin/lotr/wip12.jpg

[Kogepan]

I like this guy. He already has character. :wip: Although he looks clumsy with those big, flat feet. And I assume texturing is still in progress. (It could stand to be more subtle!) Also his facial hair looks stuck on... I can't say why, exactly. Maybe some stubble might help. But all in all its coming along very nicely. :thumbsup:

[Fetus23]

Looking amazing dur!!..nice hands and feet...
maybe a brown toe nail or two ? :)



:beer:
fetus

[mtmckinley]

Excellent job, dur23! Do my eyes decieve me, or are you using NURBS?

[pabbloz]

Bravo!

The stick really really rocks! :thumbsup:

[dur23]

HEy thanks for the support guys! I took the hair off cause ima redo it completly;) (kogepan's fault:P)

http://www.20threed.com/images/pimpin/lotr/wip14.jpg


ma stick is textured!


http://www.20threed.com/images/pimpin/lotr/wip13.jpg

[Fetus23]

OH YA!..That staff looks beautiful!!...I can't wait till you get him rigged and posed!!..and maybe even animated!?!... :love:



:beer:
fetus

[pabbloz]

Hum.... I think quite people is missing something important on this challenge, the MAGIC! :) Maybe this stick could have some of magic! maybe with each strike converts the target in one stone and then he breaks it with the fist! :eek: ;)

Great work! just break a little the symetric on the legs! :wip:

[dur23]

fetus: animate....HA! ya i wanna but hes a causing a lotta headaches already:P He'll be posed for certain!!

Pabbloz:The feather comes from the great dragon spirit or something, All the baby dragons can smell it and thats how they know they have to listen to the bearer of the stick. Just for you i also added some magical crystals to the staff rock...ill symmetry the legs soon enough.....gotta rework a whole bunch of stuff still;)

[Dreamwave]

very cool, but take of those red things from the top, the model and the rest of the staff look supah btw :applause:

[pabbloz]

Yeah! I like very much the magical crystals idea! :thumbsup:
Maybe you can add some kind of glow... not sure... maybe not neccesary, we will see in the final retouches! I think you already have work so we just wait the progress!

btw... Could you post in the next update the stick and the creature together to see the proportions? :)

[Fetus23]

YES!!..Little rubies!!...I love it!!
Would really like to see him waving some magic around with that thing!!!.. :wip: go hard!!!!

:wavey:

[dur23]

pabbloz: heres the comparison in size roughly...i might still make its bigger, whaddaya think?

[pabbloz]

I see! It's a bit bigger than I thought in a first "attempt", but I think is a cool idea such height! Cool! :thumbsup:
I think you can find the right proportions placing the stick near of the hand and imaginating if he closes the hand he should catch it without problems! do you understand? :)

[p4b10]

Like very much the sitck concept, great model and textures...
i agree with pablozz, like the new height, but think that it's too thick...

Great work! :thumbsup:

[dur23]

Pabbloz: yah i get what yar saying. :) I rotated the stick and partially rigged his arm, and closed his hand around the leather grip. It seems to be ok as far grip goes. I might have to scale down that section of the staff slightly, to make more believable.

Polart: hmmm...ill try to thing out the stick to see how it works in overall, but im definetly keeping the height:D




Im trying to figure out what i could add to his flesh to make him a lil more interesting...anyone else got some ideas?

[dur23]

heya yokles!

Brought the hair back, this time theres a lot more stubble. He's got a full 5o'clock shadow on his face now. he's also got belly and chest hair...and nipple hair :surprised

here he be

http://www.20threed.com/images/pimpin/lotr/wip15.jpg

:wip: got his rig made now i gotta envelope em...pose em out..should be good....i have good idea a boiling;)

[Fetus23]

looking smooth dur....nice designs on the clothing!! I like the added chest hair too:)....only thing bugging me is the facial hair..needs too looks "softer"...not sure if thats the right word...also the color is a bit bright....Excellent job on the textures... :thumbsup:.....waiting for more...

[dur23]

fetus you rock buddy!
I fixed the hair up a fair bit upon your critique. Made it way softer;)

Also rigged the mofo...;D

http://www.20threed.com/images/pimpin/lotr/mad.jpg

[Dirk_P_Ho]

This entry is great, lovin the text's and the sss

[Virtuoso]

Hi Dur23.............I think overall it's a very well done creation. Lots of details and work I know has gone into him.

I quess along with pabbloz I love the staff/stick the most of anyone.It's very well done,great job.:thumbsup:

I think the skin could go more towards a human tone,a bit more of a pinkish/brown hue perhaps,but that's just a taste thing,what you do have is quite good.

As for the hair I would go even softer,a little at least.But also add some thickness to it,slightly,A little more clumpiness to it.

Well those are just taste things.What you do have is a very nice creation,one of the better ones in a very impressive field within this challenge.Keep going with as much as possible to the end,it's all worth it.Very good job.:thumbsup: :beer:

[pabbloz]

Yes! this character is progressing in the right way! :applause:

Just there is one thing wich bother me... those blue eyes... I think they could be for a Disney creature... but for tolkien... a dark brown ones would be enough, no? :beer:

And maybe a soft glossisnes on the skin and nails would be good too.
Aaaaand... ;) ... could you "insert" some darker hairs between the white ones? for a more real old hair, you know :shrug:

Come on! We hope see this posed soon! :wip:

[OverIguana]

Lookin damn good....

how long is that from start to now?

way to go man, good concept and great execution.:drool:

[dur23]

http://www.20threed.com/images/pimpin/lotr/compo1.jpg

The dof makes them look like toys:) hehe that will change...along with more vegetation in the area.


Thanks for the comments guys!

Dirk_P_Ho: Thanks G! Had to settle with no SSS tho. Just using a lil bit of translucency mixed with relflections....;)

Virtuoso:Aye the skin for me right now is being finiky. I have a translucency thing going on and its totally changing his skin color. That and the hair is aswell:(. I still gots a lil bit to fix. MAybe a more visible gloss i might be able to get away with

pabbloz: yea i wasn't sure which eyes would go best for him as i wanted a gentler looking creature. I think ill give brown a go. The hairs are tougher to manipulate than i ever thought they would be. :(. But added some more color variations. Unfortunatly ya can't really see that in this render as they are only about 60 pixels in total ;) The skin gloss is coming sooni just had it turned really low;)

overiguana: :love: :airguitar

[mv]

Excellent image! I agree that vegetation will set the scale. Keep it up!

[Rye]

dur that is SOOOo cool! Yeah they do look a bit like toys :) but thats the danger of depth of field. I would think you wouldnt have depth of field in an images like this, am i wrong? Seems like it only happens when things are REALLY close. Thats a great idea though, is that supposed to be Smaug? I think you should make yer guy doing some sort of spell, maybe he could be charming the dragon? Good job though : )

[Virtuoso]

Just wanted to come in and say it's always better this creation of your's.I really think it's one of the best in a very good field, that's saying quite a bit.

The mod's have shown some fine work this challenge,but as for qualified challengers for the top spots with this challenge I think you have a good chance at one of the top spots............it is that good from overall design,creativity,actual modeling,textures etc,etc...

I hope to see another shot and or pose.I like Rye's idea of a spell type pose being done.But we shall see what you have in mind soon enough I hope.Keep going,it's close to the finish line and you have done real well thus far.:thumbsup: :beer:

[Fetus23]

This looks absolutly fantastic dur the 23rd!!!
The dragon was so unexpected and amazing!! ...I also REALLY like the enviroment...its all good ;) :)....Now you've got me dreaming about the dragons face.. . . . . . .. .
:drool:
:beer:
:wavey:

[Grub]

Dur23- good stuff, man. I think Lor' Akani is well kitted out:thumbsup:. I also like the little touch of that pimple on his nose. Oh, and the dragon makes a nice addition.:airguitar

[dur23]

http://www.20threed.com/images/pimpin/lotr/compo2.jpg

Heres more of closer idea to what the final will look like. I just gotta think of a way to make it a smaller render so that i can upload it to the cgchallenge site. Right now its sitting at 1000x500 pixels and is over 100 kb. Thats with jpeg compression set to 9 in photoshop.
hmmmmmmm darn.

Ill think of something :shrug:

[KingMob]

hey tahts way cool! and a cool idea to!... dunno how I missed this one.

I lvoe the giant dragon foot just sorta in frame...its cool to show them in size relation!.

love the ground so far to...but I am in a dirt and rock mood lately ;)

so many awesome entries this time around!

[dur23]

thanks king!
I wanted to show a nice big dragon. To show people what is they have to deal with on a regular basis. This would be a "teenage dragon". So not fully grown, but loaded with all kinds of angst. ;)

wires for the scene

http://www.20threed.com/images/pimpin/lotr/wires.gif

[mv]

great render! :thumbsup:

[Rye]

yeahhh that looks so much better! Great job dur :D Try using Image Ready to compress rather than Photoshop. You'll get much better results.

[iMag]

Excellent work, can't really comment much. I'd expect to see more of a mountainous scenery than wide open plains. From reading the hobbit, lotr, the similarian the feeling that dragons like the mountains along with their gold.

No need to cange the scene mesh wise, possibly a more mountainous backdrop might give it a better feel overall.

[RockinAkin]

Looks great,

I think the background could use a tree or two, instead of having it just be a plain field.

How did you create the ground and grass?

-DivideByZero-

[dur23]

heya guys missed the chance to upload my last image by 10 minutes...:(
oh well
:shrug:

Here it is anyway...

http://www.20threed.com/images/pimpin/lotr/final.jpg

[BiTMAP]

seems like alot of you were pushing it and were a bit to late to do the final upload... btw a "teen dragon" is a Worm or somfin.

[Fetus23]

Awsome finish dur!!...I love the grass and plants...sooo nice...You can't take a break!! You've pulled off an amazing peice of art here....I want more!!! :D.. the whole thing really came together very well!! :bounce: :bounce: Hope we get to see him animated some day!!


rock onward man!! :) :buttrock:

:wavey:

[OverIguana]

shit dude, that sucks you missed the upload...whatever you still get a 5 from me hehe, your final image is definitely worth it

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