Girl - Ramashka

[Greatto]

As I said this is the photo post.
this photo i will use like a base for my 3d model and I'll post a lot of photo with face analysis and face modeling.

[soccerdude3465]

Good luck to you, sir.

[Greatto]

Good luck to you, sir.
Thank you! and Good Luck you too!

[cbernardo]

Great idea, man! I'll folow your progress.

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carlos

[Greatto]

Great idea, man! I'll folow your progress.

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carlos

It will be great! thanks :)

[Greatto]

http://greatto.narod.ru/plan2.jpgThis is the 1st floor plan, for more correction with the scale, light and shadow correction.

p.s.Special thx to Lemog

[cbernardo]

Hi, Greatto,

Can't see your image, the link is broke.

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carlos

[Greatto]

Sorry. I dunno why :(

[Greatto]

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g195/Timlank/Imageinteriorshot.jpg
interior modeling.

[cbernardo]

Preety good!

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carlos

[Greatto]

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g195/Timlank/Imageinteriorshot2.jpg
New one I just looking for more realistic.
dogmatico: Thx :)

[thebest]

oh man cool idea keep going waiting for updates :thumbsup:

[Greatto]

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g195/Timlank/Imageinteriorshot3.jpg

this new update with girl pose. I think lightning in this one is better then others, how do you think?

thebest: thx!

[cbernardo]

I like it!

Maybe put the head a little bit for the right.

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carlos

[Greatto]

dogmatico: you are totaly right! thx for fix it!

[Greatto]

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g195/Timlank/Imageinteriorshot4.jpg

I turned her head little right and little up:)
any comments?

[cbernardo]

Now is just like the picture!

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carlos

[Greatto]

Today 01:56 AMdogmatico


Thx! :)

I'm working now on her body and clothes maybe soon i'll post some new images :)

[hoodedpython]

Nice work are you gonna model the female or are you just gonna leave it with the biped.

[Greatto]

Nice work are you gonna model the female or are you just gonna leave it with the biped.

haha! nope I' working on model now :) i have a lot of work for to do...
thnx :)

[Greatto]

hello to everyone, I have to stop my WIP, for 2 weeks. bucause I have trip, and will back on June 30th.
sorry.
good luck friends.

[thebest]

oh I`am very sad cuz u won`t show updates but have a nice trip :scream:

[Greatto]

oh I`am very sad cuz u won`t show updates but have a nice trip :scream:
thank you a lot :)

[Greatto]

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g195/Timlank/headanimation.gif
Greetings to every one, sorry for this long pause, I've been working hard :)
this is my last progress , soon i'll post full body.
good luck.

[Greatto]

As I said before, full body picture. but i'm still working on this body its a lot detail, that I must fix

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g195/Timlank/001.jpg
Front View
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g195/Timlank/002.jpg
Back View

[ivanGQ]

I think your eye is good for anatomy, nut your proportions and form just are not. I would recoment that you get a book out from the library or even buy one(not such a bad idea as you will need it almost always if your gona get propa serious with this stuff).

On this model that hands really CG, ie fake.

If I was you, i would try to get my head round the topology stuff first, that get my self in zbrush, while your doing that, study some sculpture, here are some links, best of look mate

sculpt links ref: http://www.thais.it/scultura/default_uk.htm

[Greatto]

I think your eye is good for anatomy, nut your proportions and form just are not. I would recoment that you get a book out from the library or even buy one(not such a bad idea as you will need it almost always if your gona get propa serious with this stuff).

On this model that hands really CG, ie fake.

If I was you, i would try to get my head round the topology stuff first, that get my self in zbrush, while your doing that, study some sculpture, here are some links, best of look mate

sculpt links ref: http://www.thais.it/scultura/default_uk.htm


Hello! I use the photography to model this body. I got alot of pictures real body , I mean picture of this girl,
I got a lot of anatomy books, as i said before I use the photo.
Zbrush, yes I will use it in render time.
Thank you and good luck!

[Munin]

Hello!
I like your model!waiting for updates!
Good luck!

[Greatto]

http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/large/33808152.jpg

this is my last update. UVW map :)
Thank you Munin.
I think soon we will see your images :)

[thebest]

I thought u left the thread but very happy to see that u are back
keep going doing great job :thumbsup:

[Greatto]

Greeting.
Thank you, I'm glad that you follow my thread.
Good Luck.

[Giom]

Very interesting approach! Will comment further as you progress.

[cbernardo]

Hey, Really good job!!

I thinks the proportions are very realistics! Its difficult see a body with real proportions, and you make one!
The only thing I see is the palm hand looks a little flat near of the fingers. But this is just a minimal detail.

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carlos

[Greatto]

Giom

thank you. Glad hear it.

dogmatico

Thanks a lot, yes I think you right, i will try to edit it, thank you for fix it.


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Good Luck....

[Greatto]

http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/34040278.jpg

Sample. face skin test. render: mental ray

[eternal01]

Wow, I love the texture! Really nice with the lightning! I love the lips!
For the whole body, you said that you used a reference picture, can you post it? Because I agree that the proportions are quite strange... o.o... at some points... and are the black rectangles wanted? Because... well I find it odd to want to censor your model o.o..
Keep on the good work!

[Greatto]

Wow, I love the texture! Really nice with the lightning! I love the lips!
For the whole body, you said that you used a reference picture, can you post it? Because I agree that the proportions are quite strange... o.o... at some points... and are the black rectangles wanted? Because... well I find it odd to want to censor your model o.o..
Keep on the good work!


Thank you, very much. I worked hard on her texture, especially on her lips.
"and are the black rectangles wanted?" I dont get it. can you explane it . thank you.
Photo that you ask :)
http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/large/34110241.jpg

[tastyUdon]

Hey nice progress, but is the black bar really necessary? I don't think you need to censor your model. As for the model, based on the photo reference you provided, I think you need to fix her eyes, they're kinda big. The lower part of the nose where it meets the upper lip looks too square and her ears too flat. can you post a wireframe?

[TheJinj]

Here are my crits:
A) Nose bridge too thin (especially visible at top of nose)
B) More mass in upper lips (especially the sides, where it is not red lip skin).
C) More mass in nostrils and better nostril hole deformation (hope this sounds right). Too big now for sure.
D) Eyes are too big as others said
E) Bottom jaw too skinny.
Good luck, you are going in the right direction!
Keep it up.
PS: Sorry if too harsh. In these days of ZBrush everyone's expectations of realism in CG has shot straight through the roof.

[Greatto]

tastyUdon
but is the black bar really necessary? what you mean?
eyes, yes thnk you

TheJinj
thank you for this mass crit, its very help full.
i'll fix it later, next update.

In these days of ZBrush everyone's expectations of realism in CG has shot straight through the roof.
What you mean? I understand meaning this word but I dont get it ? hahaha.

http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/34312488.jpg

[Greatto]

Hey nice progress, but is the black bar really necessary? I don't think you need to censor your model. As for the model, based on the photo reference you provided, I think you need to fix her eyes, they're kinda big. The lower part of the nose where it meets the upper lip looks too square and her ears too flat. can you post a wireframe?

I get what you mean :) I think they necessary.
thank you!

[karko]

Good job and the idea to create the environement is original.

But, it seems to me that you are victim of classical problem in 3d. The head of your character seems too narrow and it is probably the fact that the head of the girl photographed is less broad on the photograph because of the perspective…(The width of a head must make aproximativement 5 eyes.)

[Giom]

I found that if you first prepare a template of a face on a flat surface - like in PS, and then you take your frontal facial shot and place it over your template - adjust it to your template, then your 3d model will turn out more accurate.

Your proportions will be spot on and your facial features will also be spot on because you're still working off an photograph.

Thats my bit of advice for the day - the way I work in anycase.

[Greatto]

karko

Thank you!

To work with a head still it is necessary for a long time! I'll try to get better results.

Giom

MMM... I 'll try it thank you. Now i'm working on her eyes, and have some problens with material, do you know any advise "how to get realistik reflection on eye?"

[learner88]

In my opinion,Framing lighting,colours are perfect!Great job!
The proportion of the body look good ,Can you post a screenshot of the body without wireframe?just to show the continuity of the surface.

[Greatto]

In my opinion,Framing lighting,colours are perfect!Great job!
The proportion of the body look good ,Can you post a screenshot of the body without wireframe?just to show the continuity of the surface.

http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/35070955.jpg

[Greatto]

here is my last update,
I complete texturing ( it was my first texturing expierence ) :)
and my list to do
+1. post photo
+2. post concept sketch
+3. post composition
+4. post modeling
+5. post texturing
-6. post composition correction
-7. post render effects
-8. final image
http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/40128299.jpg

[Greatto]

hello to every one, thanks for visiting...
I have some problems with the skin mod.
When i rotating "upper leg bone" it gives deformation with Hip bone...
Can any body help me in this?
thanks...

[Womball]

Nice progress greatto. I think you could make the legs longer, and add more structure to both the hands and feet. The feet need a lot of attention, and are a tad too short. Find images of womens feet for that, since its hard to remember what they look like without reference. Well for me anyway.

[VanDerGoes]

I agree, legs must be a little longer. Also knees are odd, I think they are too sharp.

[Greatto]

hello Womball...
legs a modeled from photo reference, and they are the same with photo :) and hand and feet, yes your are right, but i got a Zbrush:)
thanks for comment

VanDerGoes thx, I'll try to fix it :)

[Greatto]

Just some close ups...
http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/large/40181784.jpg

http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/large/40182083.jpg

[Giom]

Glad to see you're still on this!

I think the problem with your reference pic is that your lens was too wide. When you take ref pics, you need to stand as far back as possible from your subject and zoom in as much as you can. This will help with perspective distortion.

Your texturing looks great - keep at it!

Giom

[Greatto]

hello Giom thank you :)
Yeah you right, But I do the same how you advised, on my reference photo.
human organism is not a perfect :) but 3dmax can change it :P
here is my new riging update:
http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/large/40548080.jpg

http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/large/40548047.jpg

and special thanks goes to Joey, for his help in riging and support :)

RATE PLEASE!:thumbsup:

[arizaga]

Your girl is amazing, you have done a good job, I thing that with the light of your setup she'll be more beautiful. Did you have think about the hair? How it will look?

P.D. Sorry about my english...

Go on you had a good idea. I will be waiting for updates!!

[Greatto]

arizagathanks you for this kind words:) Let me think about her hair... I think I'll draw it on photoshop or will use plugin from max8.
and here is my new update, just testing my tors and arm bones (pose inspiration"Astronaut girl" :P )

http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/large/40564143.jpg

http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/large/40564057.jpg

http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/large/40564106.jpg

[learner88]

please put her near the door with that nice lighting..just for a test,i'd like very much to see a preview of her posed near the door.

[Greatto]

hello learner88...
he he I'm trieng to find this file with the door :P I think i lost it in this huge archive :P Soon i'll post it if I'll foind it :) Thx and good luck

[Giom]

Stunning progress! She looks real good - your deforms works nicely!

:)Giom

[TheFirstAngel]

great riging work, seems Joey assisted you well ^^. looking good, looking forward to your next update. agree with learner 88 on a testshot in the set, also, that could help to tweak the skin shaders refractionamont, actually, the shader's specularity could be more broken and when a little less blinnish and a little more sss, it prolly will look softer and more organic.
try to put a tad bit of red to the filtercolor maybe if sss takes too much time to render and put the diffuse map on a slight amopunt on the refraction slot, thats usually a fast way to fake sss :)

[Greatto]

Giom:
Thanks a lot :) I hope you like my new light setup ;)

Sasha:
Hey. Yeah Joes support was really helpfull and again Gaint Thanks goes to Joey:)
Thanks for hint Sasha :) I'll try , but i already rendered it with first light setup :D.


special update :
http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/40690236.jpg
sorry for this small resolution :)

[cbernardo]

Hi, Greatto,

You really get there with this model!! Very nice shading and the modelling and deformers are fantastic!! 5 stars!

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carlos

[Greatto]

hey carlos...
thank you, it was really hard to me to get this results, its my first complete organic model that i ever done before (excluding girl from Journey, I cannot say that it was good) riging was my disadvantage until now :) and thx for rate :P
Good Luck mate

[learner88]

woooo!!great!It's better than how i figured it!!

I can't wait to see bigger images!5stars!*****

[Greatto]

learner88
Hello! thank, yeah it surprise me too :) as I said before it was special update... and I have some work to do with skin modifier and then i'll post it in full size :) hehe
Thank you a lot for your Rate :)
Good Luck Mate :) hope to read you soon :)

[Greatto]

hello to every one, here is my new update, just new rigging updates:)
http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/large/40980181.jpg

http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/large/40980268.jpg

[VanDerGoes]

Hi, good work, but in my opinion there's something wrong in your shader. There is no subdermal scattering, only a big back scatter that gives that red halo in places that should not have it (this is very noticeable in the back, above the hips).
Check your model's size and scatter radius.
Keep it up!

[learner88]

The shader doesn't seem very good with that lighting,the skin seems like plastic..the eyes look strange too but i guess they are still wip!anyway with the door scene lighting ,the skin material looks fantastic!

I can't remember what render engine are you using..vray?mental ray?what shader are you using?

[Greatto]

VanDerGoes

Thank you! I should agree with you but I'm not using the shader like fast skin :)

learner88

hello:) as i said I havent use any shader for the skin , girl render is mentalray, door render is Vray :) Yeah I totaly agree with you door render is kewl :)
eye is wip too yeah, in original they aren't there yet hehe..


Good Luck mates

-Tima.

[AnOldFriend]

Shortening the torso might be a good idea. I think that is what is making the legs apear to short. Also the neck needs some work. The sternocleido mastoid starts at the bottom of the head behind the jaw a bit and goes down to the center of the clavicle. And a second on the hands and knees as mentioned.

And you dont have to blur or censor your art. If you look around here you will notice alot of people post nude figures.

[Greatto]

Hello OldFriend :)
Thank you!
I'll fix it but a bit later :)
and what you mean about the
about censered places: It was desire of a model that I modeling
GooD Luck...

[learner88]

so thar renders are just to show the rigging:thumbsup:
sorry for the same question twice ( tried to search it in the thread but i could find it!:p )

[Greatto]

http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/large/41115816.jpg
Again new update in rigging and some new progress

learner88
Thank you :) its ok :)

[Greatto]

http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/large/41217921.jpg

http://photofile.ru/photo/timlank/2079331/large/41217834.jpg

eyes is not finished, just add them to fill empties...Still have a lot of rigging work.

[xric7]

yeah this is really stunning progress!amazing architect guy u are.can't wait for the finish work.cheers:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
ps:later please teach me how to make a human in 3d.:D

[frix]

Good work so far. I especially like the belly button.
I think her fingers are too short and the tips too thin. Keep going :)

[Greatto]

xric7 thank you for such great words))))

Frix Thank you alot! yeah i think the same i'll try to fix it :P

Good Luck Mates!

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