Races of Middle Earth - Character - Remi

[Remi]

Character development....

Mostly it's like a dog....it behaves like dog but comes from more of a cow'ish type of existance...used to graze in grass fields and roam freely...gentle species....they come in different colors and different sizes.....there are still some roaming wild kind of like wild horses(mustanges or whatever) they have the tolerance to roam without water or food kind of like a camel for several days and maybe even weeks if needed......more to come just have to sit back and think some more...hope you like it so far...i'm pretty happy with the idea and as far as I know its original so i'm going to stick with it...hopefully will begin modeling next week...Let me know what you think..:thumbsup:

[Remi]

Also I need a name for the creature...I was toying around and came up with puppapillar, cataphant, but I haven't found one that i'm happy with....help please:shrug:

[Dirk_P_Ho]

Kittypillar! :P

[KingMob]

Definetly the cutest entry so far....it's adorable!

[Per-Anders]

that is so cute! i just wanna huggle it right away :) great start keep going :thumbsup:

[Gandalf]

Good concept, so cute :)

[Remi]

added some legs...not to happy with it...but like I said...i'm no good at 2d....hopefully it comes out better in 3d:shrug: if you have any ideas for the legs that are better than what I have please please please let me know...unless you can't because this is a competition after all isn't it....hehe well here you go:thumbsup:


if you have any name ideas please let me know too...my brain is fried right now...

thanks for the compliments so far...I tried to get into every post until I realized how many there were...this is excellent...can't wait to see what comes of this...LOTR kicks ass...:thumbsup: :D

[Mangled Poly]

Remi just keep it your stylized way of doing things.. and we all know it will look good!

[cerreto]

fits perfect into the hobbits world !

[Remi]

My brain hurts....i'll start modeling tomorrow....ughhhhh...I hate headaches...to much stuff to think about...:sad:

[Edit]: I even forgot to thank you for you comments...thanks I really appreciate it....:thumbsup:

[Remi]

started to color the little guy...no name yet...throw some in here if youhave any ideas....this is my first digicolor btw and I would like to know if i'm doing it all wrong or what...looked at some of the tuts and i'm going to be doing some tomorrow to get my feet wet...well that's about it...thanks again in advance...:thumbsup: :D

Here's the link Color (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36781)

[Virtuoso]

Very cute,the cutest so far. I think you should go for the biggest fullest dream like eyes for this cute little beast. Glassy,watery type eyes full of feeling and pleasantness.

Deep texturing of some type dino skin as well would be a nice extra,just some thoughts for now.

Also perhaps a meaner side...............Like a sudden outburst of anger would cause the cute little fellow to swell up almost twice his size and show hidden teeth not seen before..................you get the idea Remi.

:)

See you after your next update.:beer: :beer:

[Remi]

Thanx Virtuoso I will keep the texturing idea in mind....the multiple personality thing might conflict with character idea but it definitly something I could keep in mind incase I decide to make this another creature other than a hobbits pet...thanks for all of the input...helped greatly on the texturing side of things...well back to work...hehe:thumbsup:

[leigh]

Not exactly the kind of creature I would expect from a Cradle Of Filth fan :D
But it's veeerrrrry cuuuuuute! :love:
It would be cool to animate such a creature and make his little mini-trunk nose thing wobble about!!
Looking forward to seeing the model!!! Good luck for the challenge, Remi :thumbsup:

[Faraguay]

Hehe:) I think cute is the word... I very much like your idea, Remi. It's very original and I think it's a lot of potential surely you'll bring out.

Have fun and I'll keep an eye on you, even if you're in "underworld"...;)

[Remi]

Yeah...not exactly a dark creature....but...I figured alot of people here would be leaning towards the dark side of things....so I wanted to avoid that....they're all great ideas that i've seen...I just didn't want to run into 'that's what i'm doing too' type a situation...thanks for the compliments everyone...hope to have something for you later....

Leigh...does this make me less of a Filth fan...*sob* hehe..thanks Leigh..hopefully I can get done with this one and maybe start something a little darker...:thumbsup:

[coCoKNIght]

Good luck Remi, it's certainly a cute thing you're going to model :)

[pit]

Don´t forget a box of them delicious Orc bones as a treat for this cute little bogger!! Very refreshing and original idea - love it!

[Remi]

Thanks coCo...hopefully I can live up to its cutness in the model:thumbsup:

Pit> Great idea...never though about anything I could accesorize(?) him with...thanks for the compliments...glad you liked the little guy..:thumbsup:

have a couple of names for the creature..maybe you could vote on which one you like best.....

A: Moglet

B: Grötel

C: Notlemut

D: Wädlfoot

If you have any better be nice and share hehe....well that's basically all my simple mind could come up with in 2 days...pretty lame huh..oh well...there you have it...:shrug:

[OZ]

Oh well....i like it a lot!:bounce: do It! :wavey:

[Remi]

Update...well, this what I have so far...didn't have to much time to work on it so far...starting to get into it now...untextured...not the best lighting...here you go

@OZ...thanks for the comments...:thumbsup:

[Mangled Poly]

awesome start.. you keeping you same style of modeling isee.. thats good!!

[leigh]

Awesome! :thumbsup: Dare I say it's even cuter than the original sketch!! :love:

[ahrens]

This is really cute cool! :thumbsup:
Keep this style, pleeeze - I bet there won't be too many cuties in this challenge...

[Remi]

@Mangled Poly....thanks.....trying to keep the sad/happy look..if that makes sense...:shrug: :D

@Leigh....I was hoping it would come out better than the sketch..my 2d isn't the greatest...just gives me a base to start from...thanks for the comments..:D

@ahrens.....thanks for the comments...:D

Just testing eyes and to see what way I should go with them...don't know if it's the look I want...

[leigh]

How adooooooraaable :love: :love:

Have you modelled the eyes with seperate lenses, by the way? It helps to give the eyes so much more depth and character ;)

[MaDSheeP]

very cool modeling job! :)

[Remi]

another angel.......:thumbsup:

[KingMob]

that thing could kick saurons @$$!

he should have been the ring bearer.


Anyways very cute, and well modeled!

more more more!

[nadeemmar]

oooooooooh:eek:

sooo cute

keep going Remi:bounce: :bounce:

[pigwater]

this thing kicks...i vote for nottlemut:applause:

[mv]

Cute!!!
I agree with Leigh about the eyes. Looks like they're just spheres with a texture on them.
Depth is the key for living-looking eyes. (the pupil must bulge a bit forward,be transparent and slightly refractive, but I don't know the exact IOR though, and the iris must be a bit concave)

+ try to do a version where we don't see the "white" of the eyes... Usually animals are like that.

[BlueCougar]

Looks great. As far as the feet go you said it was a grazer, why not hooves? Its about the size of those minature horses people keep as pets. I'd have alot of deep colors in the eyes and keep out the white as much as possible, makes it more "animal cuter" the other way you take a chance of it looking a little crazed.....rabid even...hehe

[Clanger]

Great!
Nice to know there's not only scary creatures around.

Don't know why but I see him as blue.

[mv]

Originally posted by BlueCougar
and keep out the white as much as possible, makes it more "animal cuter"
makes it look more "human".. I suggest he could try two versions.

[Remi]

@King Mob....thanks buddy....yeah sauron better watch it...this guy has one mean lick..hehe

@nadeemmar...thanks alot...I appreciate the comments:thumbsup:

@pigwater....nottlemut it is then...thanks for the input....:thumbsup:

@m@....the eyes have a transparent cornea but i'm not sure about my refraction setting...what should it be set to...thanks for the comments:thumbsup:

@BlueCougar....going to try some different styles for the eyes...first I need to focus on the model though....thanks for the comments...:thumbsup:

@Clanger....I was thinking green but maybe I will try a couple of different color scemes for this little guy....thanks for the comments...trying to avoid the 'same thing' situations by not doing something dark...if I have time i'll try and get something else a little darker in here too...maybe a rabid form of the nuttlemut...hmmmm:thumbsup: :D

Update later tonight....:thumbsup:

[dark_lotus]

Hey I want one!!

I was going to suggest that you do paws for the feet, the concpet you had looked a bit to evil for this thing.

Also with naming just pick a couple of words that relate to what your making

so lets take cute+hobbit+pet

Cuobbet. ( pron kwobbit)

cute eh!

Keep up the fantastic work!

[coCoKNIght]

Sooooo sweeeet! :D

[Gandalf]

Ohhh what cutie eyes!
Good work m8 :thumbsup:

[Dirk_P_Ho]

this little guy gonna be slimy or something? What i'm thinking is pig like shin...iunno

[erilaz]

Tee hee hee! So cute!:D

Brilliant Remi.

[Poju]

Great. Soo cute!

Does it relax in mud like pigs?

[Agraba]

haha, damn that is a cute one :hmm:

But you can not name him moglet, that's to close to final fantasys Mog.

Cute though :love:

[Remi]

@Dark_Lotus...you can have one after it's done...hehe...and I like the way you figured out the naming...thanks for the comments...:thumbsup:

@Cocoknight....thanks:thumbsup:

@Dirk_P_Ho....yeah...I was leaning towards sort of a pigish type of texture...we'll have to see when I get finished what I go with...thanks for the comments:thumbsup:

@erilaz....Thanks:thumbsup:

@Poju....it's more of a grazing type of creature...cowish with the behavior of a dog...I guess it could role around in the mud if it wanted too....thanks for the comments:thumbsup:

@Agraba....yeah..not naming him moglet....i'll come up with one soon...hopefully...i'm liking the way Dark_lotus came up with the name Cuobbet...I'll have to work on it....thanks for the comments:thumbsup:

[tim THP]

really love the design so far - on the eye thing - depends which way you want to take it, if you're going for a realistic approach then probaly put a lot more solid colour in there, but if you want it to be anthropomorphic (giving it human characteristics) then go with the white/iris/pupil you've got going (but definitely follow the suggestion about putting depth into the eye geometry - keep it up:thumbsup:

[Remi]

Not much...just an ear....don't worry about the eyes...still working on those too...let me know what you think:thumbsup:

[Mangled Poly]

so, so ,so cute!

[KingMob]

cutest like guy ever...he should have snot or drool....

just like a wittle puppy dawg!

love it man!

[Dirk_P_Ho]

Ha ha, great, the tiny ear works!

[Facial Deluxe]

Supa supa cute ! Me love :)

[FraggleFart]

I cant tell you how much i love him......:applause:

[Gandalf]

Man you rock!
It is so cute. :thumbsup:

[dmonk]

Remind me of that little guy From The fifth element that zorg had in his office.

Great work so far Remi:thumbsup:

[Remi]

You know I don't even remember Zorg....hmmm..quite odd I think...you're not the first to say that....makes me want to change my entry all together almost...I don't know...we'll see...:shrug:

Thanks all for your comments...I really appreciate them..:thumbsup: you rock:buttrock:

[leigh]

OMG I can't believe I never thought of Zorgs pet - it DOES look a bit like him!!
But different enough to be your own, Remi ;)

Oh a related note, the other day I was sitting in a coffee shop with some friends, here in Cape Town, and the guy who acted as the president in The Fifth Element was sitting there having coffee!! :D
I'm a huuuuge fan of the film so I went up to him... and went all gaga :hmm:
Anyway, I cooed "I looooooooooooove The Fifth Element" and then he told me to salute him, so I did :p

My funny story for the week :p

[Facial Deluxe]

Nice story :)

[SirManfred]

Nice... is it only gonna have the role as a pet?
Or will it be a combo? 2 in one? Hobbits pet/vacuumcleaner? :D
Really nice, though :)

[Remi]

@Leigh....Yeah I got online last night and found a picture of the little thing and I thought it didn't look like my entry so I think i'll stick with what I have...it won't even look like it when i'm done....:thumbsup:

@Facial Deluxe....Thanks...:thumbsup:

@Sir_Manfred...Thanks I was thinking more of garbage disposal but that nose would work as a vacuum nozzle too now wouldn't it....hehe thanks for the comments..:thumbsup:

Well...a new render with some minor details added..let me know what you think...If you have any good places I could go to learn how to model a decent eye let me know....Not too happy with the one I got...thanks in advance....and now....

http://www.firedragon.com/~lwg3d/wip/2003/01/16-752622.jpg

[dmonk]

Originally posted by Remi
You know I don't even remember Zorg....hmmm..quite odd I think...you're not the first to say that....makes me want to change my entry all together almost...I don't know...we'll see...:shrug:

Thanks all for your comments...I really appreciate them..:thumbsup: you rock:buttrock:

I didn't mean you you should change it completely. It's just what it reminded me of. I think it's looking awesome.:thumbsup:

[relativity]

Remi,
Nice story, and your character is looking really good. :applause:

Regards,
Erwin

[TIO_MATT]

NICE LITTLE CREATURE:beer:

[Remi]

Update:

Added the front legs...decided to go with a rhino/elephant style...the original ones in my concept really didn't lend towards a grazing type of animal so...I changed em....the eyes again are still crapped but if anyone has any suggestions as to what to do with them they're greatly appreciated...thanks in advance...
http://www.firedragon.com/~lwg3d/wip/2003/01/17-851182.jpg

@dmonk...Hey man...I know...I was just a little disappointed that there was something out there that kinda related to mine...no worries...thanks for the compliments though...I really appreciate them:thumbsup:

@relativity......Thanks for the comments...much appreciated:scream: :thumbsup:

@JAIMEF@DODEMAST....Thanks:thumbsup:

Been looking through everyones posts....haven't commented on all of them but everyone is doing an extremely great job...just wanted to let you know....that and I didn't want to crowd your thread...great job everyone:applause: :scream: :thumbsup:

[levin]

cute character remi! and great you're consistent to your style

i would like one as a pet !

[leigh]

Looking ace, Remi :thumbsup:

Looks like you may have gotten the idea for your surface look from Policarpo's fake SSS thread :)

The only thing that bugs me a bit is that the legs look like they might be a tad too small for such a big head... :shrug:

[Remi]

Thanks Leigh...and actually I got the idea from you...you posted something in a thread to do with gradients...very good...I just used the settings in that.....very good work..I thank you for helping me...I saw what policarpo did too and I haven't tried that but maybe I should...it looked pretty cool....also, I was questioning the size of the head in relationship to the legs but i'm not going to be changing anything until the model is finished..I've some ideas for the back legs that might just make it work...:thumbsup:

@Levin....Thanks buddy...yours was looking pretty good yourself...keep it up:thumbsup:

Look for another update this weekend...hopefully it'll be done and then I can get to texturing...:thumbsup:

[OZ]

HEY REMI COOL!!!:cool: ....i like ur creature! GOOOO! give us more of ur cute char.

:applause:

[Remi]

Hey thanks OZ....well...got bored tried to make some hair and this is what I got...I wanna throw this on my char head but there's some problems with it I think...for some reason hair is exploding..any reason or ideas on how to fix this....I've messed with the clump settings and the lock width and density but it still does this...hmmm well..any help is appreciated...:thumbsup:

[stipen]

Hey Remi !!!
Great idea and very cute modelling !!! I'll be watching:rolleyes:

[Per-Anders]

hehe, that's looking so cute

as for the hair render problem are you using Shave? if it's sasquatch then it might still be the same problem that basically when you have multiple hair "clumping" if you use a low res subd cage then because of the way it works out the hairs positon by the guides on the verteces, it can't handle the guides being at beyond a certain angle ot each other :(... so maybe (you use lightwave right?) freeze the cage subdivided and then re-apply the hair, because you'll have a smoother surface it should with any luck work better.

it's worht a try anyway. :)

[mikefeil]

looks like one of the characters in ice age..oh well looks good :)

[pigwater]

it just keeps getting better and better...love it:applause:

[Remi]

@stipen....Thanks man...i've been watching your progress too...:thumbsup:

@mdme_sadie.....thanks for your help...i'm using saslite...still having some problems with the way it's turning out but I'll work on that more later...it's on to texturing...which i'm horrible at...so..wish me luck:thumbsup:

@isometrix.....you're not the first to tell me something like that...it's been compared to the creature in 5th element and ice age...I take those as compliments and i'm flattered to hear such things because i thought ice age kicked ass....thanks for your comments:thumbsup:

@Pigwater....thanks alot man....your project is coming along nicely as well...keep it up:thumbsup:

UPDATE: Finished modeling tonight...i've changed some things to the legs...just haven't rendered out anything to post from it yet....but....moving on to texturing now...pretty pleased with everything so far...thanks everyone in advance....trying to get to your threads...:thumbsup:
http://www.firedragon.com/~lwg3d/wip/2003/01/19-34797.jpg

[Dirk_P_Ho]

Ha ha, very nice, and very cute. The Legs look a bit rigid though, could use some relaxation, It might be just the angle...Either way, nice progress and keep it up! :thumbsup:

[dies-irae]

fantastic!

i love the sleepy expression (in the previous image) th full body looks great, love the puff of hair!

the nose is really cool!!

[coCoKNIght]

It looks so cute :love:
Wanna see it textured! :wip: :D

[leigh]

LOL That little guy is just getting better and better, Remi! :D
I love the little tuft of hair! There is something about that last render that looks a bit like a human baby, something about its facial expression - quite creepy!

[Remi]

@Dirk_P_Ho....Hey thanks....worked on the legs but didn't render out a test....but they don't look as rigid anymore...textures will help too...thanks for the the comments...:thumbsup:

@dies-irae.....Thanks alot:thumbsup:

@coCoKNIght....there should be an update with textures later tonight or tomorrow....really busy right now...thanks for the comments...:thumbsup:

@Leigh.....Thanks...I wasn't quite sure about the hair...it's still giving me some problems...think i'm going to buy the full version of Sas here in a couple of days....thanks for the comments....:thumbsup:

Everyone is doing a great job....been roaming through alot of your threads....keep it up:thumbsup:

[OZ]

ROKIN'KOOL!!! :cool: :applause: ...he he he cute ....tropo cute (tropo = a lot);)
Ok..u fixed ur hair problems uh?....when i model hairs,i never use plugins! Gosh...too slow,and too buggy!!!

[coCoKNIght]

:wip: :wip: ;)

[eddy-3ddy]

Nice and sweet animal. Like OZ, I don't use it for the same reason. I wanna try some for my model for this challenge, it should be grass.

But great stuff. I like it:thumbsup: :bounce:

[Remi]

Hey everyone...thanks for the comments so far....i'm on to texturing now and just got started on the nose...just wanted to know what you thought of the colors or anything for that matter....haven't painted anything besides a color map so far...badabing:thumbsup:
http://www.firedragon.com/~lwg3d/wip/2003/01/23-386314.jpg
Kinda figured out a name too......how about Rinopillar(Ryn-Ah-Pillar)

[KingMob]

love the colors so far!

[pigwater]

Remi...yah the colors work for me...it gives it a light feeling to it..like a real happy, friendly pet:thumbsup:

[zued]

works for me too..:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Willem]

Ghehe thats a nice little creature.
the start on the textures looks promising..

Greetz

[Remi]

Thanks guys.....using some catapillar and lizard and elephant photos for refs....just to get some ideas flowing....i'm liking the colors too...i'm glad you did now I don't need to change them...no time to update right now but come sunday I should have some pretty good progress on this little guy.....well...until sunday then:thumbsup:

[Fetus23]

What a funny little character remi!! :thumbsup:
I'll be watching for your update this weekend....:wip:

fetus

[Remi]

Nothing to do with my entry...just wanted to give the guys/gals at cgtalk an award for being so kick ass

[coCoKNIght]

:) :thumbsup: CGTALK RULES :buttrock: :buttrock:

[smfjersey]

Colors are great man. Texture looks good!

[fellah]

great remi! maybe you could reduce the "wrinkles" on his nose a little. I would also prefer a blue/lightblue texture, but green/lightgreen looks fine to, just a personal preference :)

btw, this is the only cartoon entry I've seen in this challenge :surprised
nevermind, work work work :wip:

[nervous_twitch]

Haha, nice award man.

[Remi]

thanks guys....didn't get to work on the little guy this weekend...superbowl stuff.....and yeah fellah...I think i will give the blue colors a try and see how it turns out....just a simple hue change in photoshop should work...Thanks again...:thumbsup:


*wishing uv's were viewable in opengl....whine*

[Virtuoso]

Hi remi........:wavey:

I have a thought or two on this cute little fellow. As for textures or skin finish are you thinking caterpillar,or lizard tough thick type skin?

Also I think as a Hobbits pet he is very nice,but.......................................How about a surprise,another demension or darker side to this otherwise Cute lil' guy. How about some hidden killer type teeth. Something more fierce and a added demension to the overall character bios could be just what the Doctor ordered.Keep the nice cute guy as he is,but it would be interesting to have another side to him as well.

Anyways just a thought,I like him,keep up the texturing and finishing touchs.:thumbsup: :beer:

[KingMob]

I think a laser guided missle turret and cyborg arms would fit perfectly...

tho I never read the books :rolleyes:

just kidding, I like that he's nce...not enough nice in the world

[Remi]

Virtuoso.....HI:wavey:

I was thinking maybe a pig'ish quality of skin with some caterpillar type markings and some wrinkles like an elephant...:shrug:

As for a mean side...i thought about that...making a whole different one...kind of a magui - gremlin type a thing...great idear...:thumbsup: If I have time I will make it so


King....yeah...a mech pet:thumbsup: :scream: :surprised

[Slot]

Ohhh it is so cute... does he glow in the dark tooo?

Just kidding. Very nice concept, it is good to see you keep your style in mind. The texturing is very good too, tho this liitle hair seem to be a little trouble.

Saslite is a little hard to use, there is a lot of options, tho thei are quite limited, and the render takes too long, and then you see that the problem persists. Did you already try to make this hair with polys like menithings tutorial?

keep up the great work.

[leigh]

Cool award there Remi! :applause: :thumbsup:

[Ckerr812]

Very cute man .. Lookin good, definately could see a hobbit running around with one of these :thumbsup:

[Remi]

@Slot....that'd be cool I think...tid bit of a glow.....hehe. Thanks
Saslite...uhhhggg....gives me headaches...think i'll give that poly style a try for him....:shrug:

@Leigh...if you need a different backround PM me with the RGB values....hehe...just wanted to sound like lild for a sec...:surprised

@Ckerr812...Thanks:thumbsup:

Problems: I'm not to good at texturing yet...and i'm having some problems....I tried to do the head uv as a spherical map on the z axis...used UVImaginator to save it and painted in photoshop...applied it in modeler...loaded in layout and there was all sorts of stretching...so now I made the top of the head a different map and that worked...now i'm running into problems with the 'face'.....the attached image is of the face mapped spherically on the z axis...any help is appreciated.........did that make sense....:wtf:
http://www.firedragon.com/~lwg3d/wip/2003/01/28-815325.jpg

[leigh]

Remi! Edit your UVs man! :)

[BlueCougar]

Have you tried the technique where you use a morph to manipulate the mesh so its lying flat to the z plane and then do a planer UV map creation?

Its really easy you just grab the area you want to map cut & paste back in place to seperate it then create a morph target like "face_UV" (just like a facial expression) and then you can manipulate the mesh so that the face is laid out flat like you would want it for your UV. Then you stay in the morph and "shoot a picture" of you UV from that and voila! you have a really workable UV map. You then go back to base mode and merge points back together.

Sometimes you have to go back in and weld a few points but its not that bad That's how I unwrapped the snakes that were intwined around my weapon for texturing. Otherwise I'd be bald from frustration right now. Message me if you have an questions about it.

Good Luck!:thumbsup:

[Mangled Poly]

i want one of those to hop around my desk well i work... hes so cute.. and cuddly!

[Remi]

*starting to get headache*

@Leigh....i've tried...that's the unedited version that I posted....hmmmm....I will render out what it looks like after i've applied the textures and things and maybe that'll help me figure some things out too.....i'm still working....not done yet:thumbsup:

@BlueCougar....i've seen that but it looks to be like a little more work than needed....if nothing else works i'll try it out....thanks man:thumbsup:

@Mangled Poly.....you can purchase one from your local pet shop for around 1 beeeeeelllllion dollars...muahahahahaa...thanks for your compliments...:thumbsup:

[Remi]

I'm getting some pretty visable seems between my uv's...you can see it in the red circle in the picture....i'm using photoshop to do the textures and I made a color swatch so the maps use the same colors....can anyone tell me why this is happening...If needed I will post my uv maps that I have...thanks
http://www.firedragon.com/~lwg3d/wip/2003/02/09-827415.jpg

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