Races of Middle Earth - Character - Silmarillion

[Silmarillion]

I`m no good with traditional art , but here is something i sketched :rolleyes:

[WarpedMinds]

looking good :)

[Silmarillion]

The Daselmons

A race was on middle earth before man. They were able to fly and live in deep forests.Ancient writings do not have any word on them but they were beleived to be elven hybrids.They were fearless hunters and were unvulnerable in their forests. No living thing could try to attack them in their forests. Soron wanted to eliminate them before the war, he was aware of that they were going to be a big threat for him. And finally Soron poisoned their rivers and many of that race died
The survivors faced a fate thats worst than death.
Their rivers had something that was a must to live for them. And later the survivors noticed that the same thing that makes them live was within "blood". And this misterious race became blood thursty creatures that roams when everybody sleeps.


Emauher : Thank you so much for the Translation.

[cerreto]

Silm nice to hear im not the only one hurting for time ;) looking forward to your model

[Silmarillion]

It` going to be a tough month :beer:

[chadlychoo]

Oh man, I can't wait to see your 3d model!
:applause: :applause:

[Remi]

what's the idea behind this character...looks interesting..but if it's an elf remember that's a species we can't do...just giving you a heads up...:thumbsup:

[marioucci]

heyas Can!!!!


Please go on with this challenge mate. ur work is terrific and i cant wait to grap ur wireframes LOL
I know how time can be tricky thou...

cheers mate

loggie

[mv]

Eagerly waiting for your model... can't say much from your sketch:shrug:

[Silmarillion]

Heyas logan :) , Here s some progress shot :bounce: , He is not going to be elf or human , I am going to write his story soon , stay tuned :D
http://www.cgbug.com/can/daselmon_wip_4.jpg

[azazel]

Piece of really great modelling, lots of character...but looks very 'human-like', so I'm curious about the story.


PS Maybe You could show some wires;) ?

[Silmarillion]

Thanks Azazel :wavey: , Here`s a more recent progress shot .
http://www.cgbug.com/can/d_wip_6.jpg

[mv]

wow... that's a great head...as usual! It has a lot of character, nothing to crit. Keep posting man, that's going to rock! :buttrock:

[hkbasravi]

What method did you use to model this???

I can never get a head to look that perfect. Did you use splines? Is it a plolygon Model? patches?

[SheepFactory]

:buttrock:

I knew you wouldnt disappoint me can :) , kick ass as always.

[Memodin]

Yes the head is very beatuful. I hope the body will be too.

Go on my friend. Seni kim tutar Can. :applause:

[Silmarillion]

Sheep Factory , Memodin: Aldim beyler gazi kimse tutamaz beni artik :) :bounce: :)
m@. : Thanks man I loved your character, amazing stuff.
hkbasravi: yes I use plolygon modelling . There was some nice tutorial on www.evil-plan.com website that`s the method I use to model ;)

http://www.cgbug.com/can/d_wip_6b.jpg
http://www.cgbug.com/can/d_wip_6b_yan.jpg

[rolhionjs]

very cool head ! It's really looking real ! Ears give all the special design of your character ! Great work :) :)

[Silmarillion]

Heyas .::STRIKE::. , I loved your character the textures look awesome man , great work :beer:

[azazel]

Show us some wires, I'd love to see how it's done.... isn't that strange? everytime i like something, i wan't to see wireframes... now even in real world ;) :thumbsup:

[l_farley13_l]

Great! Looking looking forward to your freetime! ;)

Farley13

[AJ]

That's a sweet head! The form around the cheeks/mouth is really nice...

Only 'crit' (ha!) would be that to me it looks as though there should be more of an overhang at the ridge of his forehead (where the eyebrows are furrowing) - but since this species has never been seen before, it doesn't matter! :D

[BoromirNo1]

cannt wait to see this textured mate. looking good. the head model is SPOT ON. :applause:

[Silmarillion]

Attached a wire shot , he might probapply look different in the final stage though there he is so far :bounce:

http://www.cgbug.com/can/d_wip_wire.jpg

[Fetus23]

You have a beautiful model going here man....I'm ready for more of this one!!! :thumbsup:


fetus

[Silmarillion]

Heyas Fetus23 , some render of the progress model :wavey:

http://www.cgbug.com/can/d_render_a02.jpg

[CGSisdead]

absolutely awsome model so far :buttrock:
btw thanks for the link to evil-plan. I like the style the people over there are doing.

[cakeypigdog]

he's lookiing great: i cant wait to see more: he has a very expressive face: looks like he is full of disdain for somebody!
excellent model mate.

[idilek]

Harikasin yaa.. :) burada sen varken challange bizim neyimize abi :)

[Neox]

wow, great work
but i guess his ears are to high, even if you compare it to your skatch its just a little bit too high, but the modelling is great!

[Silmarillion]

H13: sure noproblem man , they have some great stuff going on in there.
Neox ,you are right about the ears , i did not noticed them before , I will fix that one when im done with the whole body , and think of adding more detail to the fore head. :thumbsup:

Triton , abi turk dayanismasi oldu bole cok iyi ya , icelim buna :) :beer: :)

and , here is some more progress opengl shot ,


http://www.cgbug.com/can/d_opengl_2.jpg
http://www.cgbug.com/can/d_opengl_2b.jpg

[ki oku]

wow, its getting better and better :rolleyes:

[darkkk]

:beer: devam.... :)
çok iyi gidiyor...

[AshodT]

ana ne badje ne ...!!:cool:

i love your work man!!just keep going please :beer:

[Silmarillion]

oo super populasyon artiyor buna icilir :beer: :drool::beer:
Heyas AshodT which langunage is this?

and some more progress :bounce:


http://www.cgbug.com/can/d_opengl_5.jpg

[dur23]

You truly are an inspiring artist. Amazing details, beutiful anatomy, heck i'd say you barely need to texture at all with the wonderful detail that goes into these models:)

Truly inspiring...:love:

[hiko_]

Awesome modeling :thumbsup:

[Silmarillion]

Thank you all , I took a render of the progress model.. :wavey:
There he is;


http://www.cgbug.com/can/d_render_a03c.jpg

[mv]

Great work! excellent modelling... keep it up!:buttrock:

[lildragon]

bah! :annoyed: is that the best you got? :p

man you kick some serious bootay!! keep it coming man, bring on the wings!

salud

[samartin]

Has this guy been interviewed b4 ??? I would luv' 2 know where u get u're ideas from and how u come by creating all these stunning models... anatomy is always spot on :applause:

[Erik]

i really like it silmarillion...

i will be back for your futur update.
certainly one of the best modeling of this challenge... but the caracthere seem to be a little too elfic for me ;)

good job!
:beer:

[DarkSun]

Can it is going really cool... I am unpatient to see the finished version :D :thumbsup:

[Anubis-Halil]

:buttrock:

bravo çok iyi gidiyosun.
diðer çalýþmalarýnda güzel.

Bende yarýþmadayým.
seninle tanýþmak isterim.

varsa icq : 91579002

Anubis

Halil Evren

[Wiz]

well..just amazing
may i ask what langauge that is?

[Silmarillion]

I could not much work on him ,but here is some little update.
Hey Lil, now wings are going to be next to model :bounce:
samartin: I`m not interviewed yet but hope to get one soon :beer:
Wiz : that was Turkish :wavey:
Anubis-Halil: Babacim auth. istedim icq`undan
Erik : with the wings added you will see the difference ;)
m@.: Thank you man :beer:

http://www.cgbug.com/can/d_render_a06.jpg

[nadeemmar]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

awesome....

i always love ur style Silmarillion

:thumbsup: :bounce:

[Dipesh (India)]

that is really a great model man...

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:


how much hours u took to model uptil this stage

[Silmarillion]

Hey thank you guys :wavey: , well i started the model on Jan 14, but i could fully concentrate on it after Jan 22 since i`was all available for the contest ;) and Let`s say 14*8 hrs and you make the math :)

[Neox]

this is getting so damn great! very well modelled, but please check his biceps and triceps, something is looking very strange to me, i guess its the triceps, its looking like some sort of tumor or bump, but not really like a triceps, my english ain't good enough to describe it, so i'm very sorry, hope you understand me :)

[Wiz]

ahh amazing
cool..i was in turkey twice ,nice country :)

[Annuostivix]

I think he means the triceps are very thin from the front. For how buly of a fellow he is, maybe his arms should be as well. Incredible model so far, i really like it. I'll be checking for updates tomorrow =) nites. :D

[Virtuoso]

Just wanted to come in and say it's looking very nice. A very intense and looking creation. The modeling too looks clean.I am looking forward to more,it's got my interest already.Keep up the very nice work.:thumbsup: :beer:

[Silmarillion]

Thanks all :wip:
I dont want to make him so overmuscled arms , but thin and muscled ones , but agree he needs more specified muscles on the arms :thumbsup:
Heyas Virtuoso , Nice to see you here :beer:
Wiz: This is a beatiful place to live :wavey:
and I started to model the hand attached a shot of the fingers :bounce:

http://www.cgbug.com/can/parmaklar.jpg

[dmonk]

great work! Are you gonna rig or model it posed?:thumbsup:

[leigh]

Superb modelling :applause:

Those fingers look fantastic so far, except for the fact that they are clones of one another, but I assume you will be changing that.

Awesome work!

[Neox]

i guess those edges on the knuckles are to hard, they are looking like scars or cut and not like wrinkles, but the rest is really great!

[elloco]

seriously wicked modeling dude ... I've never seen anybody do such magic with lightwave's SubD's ... WeeeKed ...:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :scream:

[hesido]

Good modeling as always from Silmarillion (who happens to be my high-school classmate!..)

Just make sure you randomize the wrinkles on the fingers, both the count and the orientation. I hope you pass some of your merits to me mate! I hope you invent some muscles to flap the wings, I can barely wait to see them..


Also, you could have made the fingers a bit less human-like. I think you get the idea..

[Silmarillion]

:beer: Thank you everyone , Heyas Emrah nice to see you here bro :bounce:
dmonk , Yes I model it posed
Huh man , this hand became a poly monster, attached some open gl shots , Some one remind me not to model the wrinkles next time
:wip:

http://www.cgbug.com/can/el_ici_yakin.jpg
http://www.cgbug.com/can/el_ici_uzak.jpg
http://www.cgbug.com/can/el_disi_yakin.jpg

[Silmarillion]

Some render , and i will take a render from a diferent angle tommorrow morning ;)

http://www.cgbug.com/can/d_render_a07c.jpg

[CJ]

Wow! That is really comming along nicely!:thumbsup:

[Silmarillion]

http://www.cgbug.com/can/wire.jpg

[Martyr]

I really like all your work, you are very talented, im a fan of demons of all kind but they way you made them is the best...humanoid whit a considerable amount of muscles...your the best in the genre...continue and meke the legs!! :applause:

[pyschopath]

klasik olarak : ))

:surprised WooooWWW very nice and terrible !!! :surprised

off cok manyak olmuþ can abim ee 1.nin hediyesi neydi hayýrlý ossun :beer:

[Silmarillion]

Added some veins to the arms , and fixed some tiny problems on the hand and arm joint. Now look better to me ,

Pschopat , sagol guselim :)

http://www.cgbug.com/can/das_render_01_new.jpg
http://www.cgbug.com/can/hand_a01.jpg

[samartin]

WINGS !!! can't wait to see this piece with wings attached... Still, awesome as ever :buttrock:

[elloco]

... even better now ... :scream:

... try adding a few vertical wrinkles on the palms upper part (right next to the base of the middle and ring fingers) ... looks a bit flat like this ...

[mv]

Great work :buttrock: excellent anatomy and great style...keep it up!

[tubby]

wow great looking model! This is definetely one of my favorites in a contest full of talent. the only thing that I could think of to crit is the length of the fingers, they seem too short, or maybe not and im just jealous.:) :)

[InnerVortex]

beautifull!!!

[CJ]

I can't wait to see this guy fully completed! Awesome!
I do agree with Tubby though. The fingers look a little too... compressed (for lack of a better word) around the middle knuckles on each hand.

Keep it up though! :bounce:

[Gelfling]

great body definition and well done hands

very nice piece you got going here Silmarillion

:thumbsup:

[Magnusv]

Very nice,clean,plus the character looks sooo intense,tough.Bu I agree the fingers are too short,Streatch them alittle,but it's up to you.Nice details all over,very well done.:beer:

[Silmarillion]

Made some fixes on the chest arms and the hand :beer:
Kind of busy thisweek hope i can finish him till the deadline :rolleyes:

http://www.cgbug.com/can/das_render_01_new4b_low.jpg

[Makaveli]

wow this stuff is amazing! i'm lucky i didn't see this when you first posted the first few models.......i would have died in anticipation!!! excellent work! :applause:

[Satyricon]

FANTASTIC!!! You have some great skills there my friend! Will there be more???:beer:

[mercutio]

wow..great anatomy.

[HawVer]

No shit! Great modelling!

[Neox]

the triceps is still kinda strange :p

[Johnlittle]

Very nice model.I think th triceps are fine actually.It's sooo nice to have individual opinions,don't you think Neox.:p
The triceps that stick out have been worked out more.He has extra large outer heads,nice look,keep going.:beer:

[Emauher]

Hey Can, its f***in cool .. stunning, maan . :surprised

I wonder how the legs will be...

[Silmarillion]

Thanks all :)
I`m back on the model , strarted the legs and the pants for him. I will leave the wings to last :bounce:


http://www.cgbug.com/can/das_render_01_new6.jpg

[Neox]

from this angle, his body looks kinda too boxy, don't know how to describe but in normal cases, the human (if you wanted him so, no problem :) ) is round and not like a chamfered box

[Emauher]

I dont think it has a problem with the torso but there's a so little space for his hips .. i think the legs should be lowered a bit and increase the space occupied by his hips ...

[Wiz]

i dont see any boxines ,and i love the new arm detail ,and the pants just start so all in all i love it!

[Koma]

awasome model ... one little thing that i think can be fix its the abdomen that looking wrong for me .... look at this picture http://www.fineart.sk/ga33.JPG

proportion and where the belly buttom is ...also think that you can tweak the arm a bit . but this is trully awesome dude ... keep it up

[Max4d]

Hey dude

I must say, your 3d art could use some hard work. It's to simple and to quickly done i suppose. But when i look at your 3d art, it rocks:buttrock:

So keep going and i would really like to see it finished.

Greetz Max4d

[Wiz]

I must say, your 3d art could use some hard work. It's to simple and to quickly done i suppose. But when i look at your 3d art, it rocks

is this a joke or what?

[Max4d]

Hey

I am truly sorry, i meant that the 2d art could use a lot of work, but the 3d art rocks. Please forgive me

Greetz Max4d

[Wiz]

oh then just edit your post ,so you wotn sound foolish :)

anyways you are right his 2d fast
3d IS AMAZING!

[Grub]

Fine work.:thumbsup:

[betooo]

Really awesome modeling... where are you modeling it? and whit what method?

[Johra]

Cool concept and modelling! me like!

[Silmarillion]

Heyas All , some progress on the pants :rolleyes:
Betooo , you can read information about my modelling technique in the begining of the thread...

http://www.cgbug.com/can/das_ogl_fullbody2.jpg

[Silmarillion]

http://www.cgbug.com/can/das_render_a02.jpg

[Gremlin]

gawd, its looking real good... plus, I like the design of his pants, and the classic GI / WIP shaded render! :thumbsup:

[mv]

Man, that rocks. You have the kind of accurate style I really like:beer: nothing to crit for my part. Good luck for the last run!:wip: :wip:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce:

Everything i wanted to say is already said by M@ .




:thumbsup:

[Silmarillion]

Thank you guys , :beer:
m@, I loved the textures on your character , don`t think i can texture nor rig him :(

http://www.cgbug.com/can/das_render_a03b.jpg

[RockinAkin]

Simply amazing job so far! :eek:

Please dont rush this just to meet the deadline! Keep up the quality you've already established so far. Take your time and work on him for another month or two if you have to. He's turned out so well so far - I'm sure you'll have a phenominal peice once you finish.

Keep up the great work,
-DivideByZero-

[Raenz]

Really nice piece of work there.

Your ability to model anatomy correctly is superb.

Kudos.

[Silmarillion]

Armored_Saint: Thank you :bounce:
DivideByZero: Thank you , I`ll leave rigging fro after the contest..
:beer:

I made some textures for the pants a mixture of procedurals and image maps.



http://www.cgbug.com/can/das_render_a04.jpg

[mv]

just WOW! excellent sword too.:beer:

[lildragon]

go, go , go :wip:

[cakeypigdog]

:eek: this one gets better and better. go on my son.

EXCELLENT WORK!!:buttrock:

very nice texturing on the pants :thumbsup:

[janhath]

Looks real nice,very well done.But where's the wings?:beer:

[samartin]

yeah shame about the wings but... what an image, I just wished you could of finished it in time cos' you would have got my vote...

I think this character could easily integrate into the current lord of the rings movies with ease, IMO the most believable character in this challenge... :beer:

[Emauher]

Man its awesome. I really begin to wonder the story .... :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Silmarillion]

I`ll try to make a simpler wing design than the one i have in my mind , there he is so far. Thank you all for the motivation :beer:

http://www.cgbug.com/can/das_render_a07.jpg

[Silmarillion]

The Daselmons

A race was on middle earth before man. They were able to fly and live in deep forests.Ancient writings do not have any word on them but they were beleived to be elven hybrids.They were fearless hunters and were unvulnerable in their forests. No living thing could try to attack them in their forests. Soron wanted to eliminate them before the war, he was aware of that they were going to be a big threat for him. And finally Soron poisoned their rivers and many of that race died
The survivors faced a fate thats worst than death.
Their rivers had something that was a must to live for them. And later the survivors noticed that the same thing that makes them live was within "blood". And this misterious race became blood thursty creatures that roams when everybody sleeps.


Emauher : Thank you so much for the Translation.

[Virtuoso]

Very well done in all aspects.From design/concept to modeling and now textures.A very complete and very well done model. I sure hope you can get the wings in, even without it still is one of the best within this challenge. Congrats on a great effort and a top notch model.:applause: :beer:

[Silmarillion]

Thank You Virtuoso , I wish i had more time to make him some wings ,made fake ones till i model the real ones :) ..

http://www.cgbug.com/can/das_render_a08.jpg

[Virtuoso]

Well as Pixar say............You can't rush art.;)

But in time I know you will get to those wings,I'll check your site for up-dates.You have done very well none the less.Excellent work throughout. One of the true contenders in my mind without doubt. See you soon.:applause: :beer:

[CJ]

Virtuoso is right... can't rush it always... so why not continue this piece in the WIP section? ;) Looking fantastic!!! :beer:

[Fetus23]

What can i say?..its freaking beautiful!!!...i agree with the others don't rush this but from the looks of your other works you don't rush anything :D...simply amazing stuff you've done....I can't wait to see the conclusion of this one.... :applause:

:beer:

[samartin]

Well since I last posted you have basically finished the model by adding the feet, wicked !!!

Just one thing tho' and I think that the creases in the fingers are too strong so I supplied a smoothed version so you can see what I mean... It may be the look you are going for or maybe you have overlooked them ???

Anyway since I last saw your awesome entry he now has feet and actually looks complete so on that note you got my vote... :applause:

[Silmarillion]

Samartin: Yes looks better smoothed , I guess mine looks abit of too stretressed i should relax that abit :thumbsup: btw Thank you for the vote :beer:

Fetus23: thank you so much i will keep posted the progress , but i`ll take it slow from now on , and since the contest is over don`t wanna rush it. :)

The Residual: Thank you :)

Virtuoso: Thank you man , Huh i feel very tired. This month was very challenging for me. But it was real fun and i feel great now :thumbsup:

[Martyr]

Man your really good i wanna see your wings hurry please! : )
how you post such a really big pictures...And im curious how many polys you have!! Bye!

[Silmarillion]

Martyyr25, i upload them to web and post it as an image in the forum , It`s 30k+ polygons so far :).

http://www.cgbug.com/can/das_wire.jpg

[Dreamwave]

nice wings...
fly Ikarus fly :beer:

[Silmarillion]

A close up render of the head , I should have put that in the final entry :(

http://www.cgbug.com/can/das_head.jpg

[kpalazov]

Marhaba Silmarillion,
I think you have produced , with out saying one of the best works that have been posted in the history of the forums. This is the type of work that keeps every younge 3d enthusiast to strive for perfection in there own work and for that I am and I'm sure alot of others, are very greatful.
I wish you the best of luck in the challenge.

Hoskaba :beer:

ps.would it be possible to see a side shot of the nose area:)(wire) ......would be much appricated:bounce:

[Silmarillion]

Merhaba Kpalazov ,
Thank you for your kind words , Enjoy the wireframe ;)
And Serefe (means cheers in Turkish:) ) :beer:


http://www.cgbug.com/can/das_side_wire.jpg

[SEL]

I havent replyed to this thread until now, but just wanted to say how impressed I am with your model. You know you are a good 3d modeler when you can post your work and without a name, know who the artist is based on their style, for ive seen your stuff on other sites. Great piece, want to see it finished! Good luck with the challenge, and see you around maybe for the next one.

SEL

[kpalazov]

hi again Silmarillion ,
Thanks so much for your efforts I really appraicte you doing this :applause:

I guess you picked up on my bad turkish, have a very good friend in uni from turkey so I try to pick up what I can:)lol

take care mate

thanks once again

Kiril

[Silmarillion]

Sel: Thank you
kpalazov : Sure np :)
:beer:

[Raul-Reznek]

Way to go bud! i still thikn u should have won heh :D

[hiko_]

Beautifull organic modeling !
You have great skillz with anatomy !

You destroy my slip !

[Xaint]

Great work and style. You have a true eye for form. Though it seems to me that you're stuck to the similar body and face type (basically) for every male character.
...But You are great!:beer:

[Freestyler]

what about some horns coming out of his back/shoulder, It would make him a bit more 'evil'

[Kulu_Kulu]

:drool: :thumbsup:

kulu

[REZI-st]

amazing work :drool: I have not words, simply very successful work :applause: :thumbsup: :buttrock:

[Aose]

Very perfect work!!!!:beer: :thumbsup:

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