Races of Middle Earth - character - lildragon

[cerreto]

go lil d go !

[chadlychoo]

Good luck lildragon! :thumbsup:

[Virtuoso]

That's funny Lil'...............I too am putting my Reel together and getting deeper and deeper into Maya unlimited at this time. And now I see you with the courage to join this challenge as well,talk about putting pressure and constraints on your time......:buttrock:

I think I'll follow your lead,and join in too, It's just too great a topic to pass on. Good luck with the challenge,I'll see you at your next up-date.:thumbsup: :beer:

[mrmark]

yay your in!
and yay so is virtuoso!! :D

[Apt Pupil]

Reels :argh: I should make one of those one day.

Nice to see you entering this time around, I am routing for you (crush those other mods heheh, especially that big, bad and scary bentllama)

Go go go!!:beer:

Virtuoso --> I hope you are going to enter too, I would love to see some more of your visions.

[leigh]

Woooohoooo!! I'm so happy to see you are in on this one, Tito :D:D:D
Good luck to you, especially since you're going to be using Maya - that's quite a challenge, to make a model in software that you do not yet know! Hope you have fun learning! :thumbsup:

[Tommy Lee]

Yeah Tito!

Show us what ya get....:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Thanks again for checking me webspace.... The page is now online.. a rough version of it, but...anyway...

Waiting till ya next update..or first sketch.:wip:

Cheerz Buddy

Tommy Lee

[dark_lotus]

Wow, new software, new challenge,

I must admit this is the second challenge I've entered (the first one being Jan last year!!!)

All the best Tito!!!

(maybe you can pop a cameo in Kar?)

[lildragon]

Hehe thx all, this is going to be a great challenge, all the old gang is here for this one, should be a blast!!!

I'll do my best to get this one finished, would be good to add to the reel :D

salud

[Erik]

Happy to see u in the challenge Lildragon, hope you will have the time to finish, i will keep an eye on your thread... good luck :beer:

[lildragon]

weeeeeeeee finally updated, check the top :p

back to Maya :D

salud

[SheepFactory]

WOW! :buttrock:

Rock on man , i am drawing mine at the moment

[leigh]

Wooohoooo!!! Looking forward to this one, Tito, it's gonna rock!!! :xtreme:

[BlueCougar]

Cool, be glad to see it grow within Maya....I'm a LW fan, the interface in Maya was frustrating for me. When I have a surplus of patience I need to do the same and get into Maya as well.

[Virtuoso]

Holy thick muscled massive heavy armored beast ....................Exxxxcellent concept. From it's hooves to it's wide grimace of a smirk it looks stellar.............Bring this bad arse into the 3D World and look out for flying flesh...................How much does that weapon weigh??? ;)

Very nice idea, that's a real full fledged beastie........Nice .:thumbsup: :beer:

Yes Maya Lil'..............We go forth together. But still don't forget Max to go along with it.The best of both Worlds.:beer:

[Taoizm]

I dunno...seems a little iffy. :p

Can't wait to see the model for this guy take shape lil'd.

[fellah]

pff, nothing good ;)

but, it could have been good though, if you hadn't posted it in the challenge area ;)

glad to see so many old faces joining in, showing of their talents once again, it's almost impossible to get a good look at everything.

work work work, no time to lose if you should be able to beat me ;)

:wip:

[Tommy Lee]

Damn great character....:thumbsup: :buttrock:
Can´t wait to see the first polygons:D

Cheerz buddy

[NelsonInomvan]

Great concept liliput :)

[RockinAkin]

Very cool concept.
Cant wait to see the 3D version.

-DivideByZero-

[pigwater]

great creature...it'll be fun to see this come alive...:thumbsup:

[OZ]

GOSH!!! :eek: .....sweeeeet...your concept rox!....hey please....this time u have to model it!!! GO! GO! GO! GO! GO! GO!
:buttrock:

[flamedevil]

Very good concept sketch, good to see ya trying Maya :)
Good Luck.

[lildragon]

BIG helleva thx all, I'm going do my damn best to model this beast, I just gotta, and I have the time me thinks :D

weeeeeeee what a kicka$$ challenge thus far!!!

:buttrock:

[Equinoxx]

hehe tito . . . less talk more modeling

get your arse in gear buddy, this challenge is roaring . . .

[Tommy Lee]

go,go,go Tito! WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

[lildragon]

Okie, I think it was about time I got SOMETHING done if I intend on finishing this challenge heheh

I decided not to use use simply because I won't have the time necessary to challenge and work on my reel. But I did start him out in wings tho as seen below. But right now speed is important ;)


http://www.cgchallenge.com/tmp/wings.jpg

Here's his humble beginnings, 2 hrs with wings, bobbling with the new tools and such, fun app no time right now to re-learn my methods :)

http://www.cgchallenge.com/tmp/rana1.jpg

http://www.cgchallenge.com/tmp/rana2.jpg

http://www.cgchallenge.com/tmp/rana3.jpg

And this is officially my first model in Maya, the poly tools aren't the greatest but they get the job done! Furthermore I'm in love with the rigging tools, my word :surprised I did my first rig in like a day, eaaaaasy :D

Anyhoo comments/crits appreciated of course

back to it weeeee

salud

[rolhionjs]

Well i hope you will finish him, coz it's really a great start, and character as well ! i like alot your background concept ! Keep going please !! :) :buttrock:

[eddy-3ddy]

He Lil,

Cool head, I didn't know you used maya:hmm:

Maybe you can make the width of the eyes smaller, so there will be space in his head for 2 eyeballs, or maybe you have already an option for that. Just let you know what I think:)

[lildragon]

Originally posted by 3ddy

Maybe you can make the width of the eyes smaller, so there will be space in his head for 2 eyeballs,

Yeah good point! I erased my concept sketch here by accident, gotta repost that, but anyhoo yeah the eyes will be smaller in the end, this is the first blast, I'll probably spend alot of time tweaking here and there tonight :thumbsup:

Now to block out the bod heh

P.S. yup I recently made the switch from Max :)

salud

[Virtuoso]

It's nice to see your creature come to life in the 3D World. Nice beefed up head,looks quite tough. With a body to match that girth and overall size and thickness it will be quite formidible. Start blocking it out Lil'dragon,it looks like it will be real fun to view.:thumbsup: :beer:

[Fede]

Go Tito,

Looking fantastic like all your other models dude.

Hope to see more in the morning.

[lildragon]

The eye socket was majorily bothering me, thx to 3ddy :p so I took some time over lunch to push a few verts :)

http://www.cgchallenge.com/tmp/rana4.jpg


body to come

salud

[Tommy Lee]

Hey...comes along great...:thumbsup:

Wait to see more befor I crit(or not;) )

Cheerz Buddy

Tom

[OZ]

OOOOH...at last the dragon is in with some of his 3d! Is from the time of kar modeling that i dont see u on a fantasy character........:beer: keep it up...give us more!:applause:

[Equinoxx]

going going . . . how ya like ya new soft ya traitor :p

anyhoo, digging it, but the nose needs definition, the eyebags are a little overdone too imo . . . perfection lies in details ;)

but i dig the way it's heading buddy

[SheepFactory]

wOOt! , you started the model and didnt tell me! :wip:


Looking good man , looking forward to the update.

Ali

[derelict]

Bully bully bully bully! nice one lil! more please more... :)

[bentllama]

a little too smooth for my liking...I feel like I should be seeing the bone and underlying tructure of his head...stron chin bone, cheeklines, etc...bottom lip needs refining...it doesnt look fatty and pliable enough...

nice overall form though... :thumbsup:

:beer:

cannot wait to see his body roughed out! :)

[dies-irae]

wow!
i love the nose + eyes + forehead zone and the ears are coming along really good!

i guess you're still working on the mouth so no crits on that!!!

and fantastic concept + background!

[lildragon]

blocking out!!! :wip::wip:
http://www.cgchallenge.com/tmp/rana5.jpg

More definition to come! Now it starts to get interesting :wip: :wip:

salud

[shoey]

looking good lil, the eyes look a lot better now. looks like he has a good stature too. now lets see those details!:bounce:

[fellah]

I know it's a wip, but I'm gonna through in some suggestions anyways! :wip:

I think you should pull down the head a little, to give him more of a hunchback(like the one in your concept) so that the head comes almost in height with his shoulders. you'll also need to pull the head out from his body to acheive that effect.

also try making his stomach a bit shorter. I think it can be cool.

only ideas/suggestions, I know it's very early :)
take care

[Fetus23]

Looking good lildragon...I really liked your sketch/concept so I'll be back for more comments when it gets more developed.
waiting for more updates....Model onward!! :wip: :wip: :wip:

:beer:
fetus

[Mandrake]

The edge flow looks ok so far.. is that Maya? You can get rid
of black polys by Edit polygons-normals-set to face

[lildragon]

Originally posted by Mandrake
The edge flow looks ok so far.. is that Maya? You can get rid
of black polys by Edit polygons-normals-set to face

Ah much thx, that was beginning to bug me :thumbsup:

working on it now

thx everyone

salud

[lildragon]

Going going :wip: got some details in there and lowered the head fellah :p

working :wip: :wip: more possibly tonight, have to add ribs and start the leg detail, then another coat of finer detailing, and it's all gravy from there weeeeeeeee.

I MUST FINISH :twisted:

http://www.cgchallenge.com/tmp/rana6.jpg

salud

[Fede]

Nice Lil, the character is really coming along nicely.

Your lowpoly meshes and the ones from Namoui have helped me greatly to understand how edges react to eachother and how to model overall.

Thanx and keep up, pitty you went over to maya though ;)

later

[Vong]

Looking good Tito, looking good... Keep it up! :thumbsup:

YOU WILL FINISH THIS CHALLENGE! C'mon, say it with me... YOU WILL FINISH THIS CHALLENGE! :)

[Edouard]

This looks f*cking good.. I can't wait to see more...keep on going:arteest:

[Willem]

Oke that looks really nice
keep up the good work!

[lildragon]

Originally posted by Fede
Your lowpoly meshes and the ones from Namoui have helped me greatly to understand how edges react to eachother and how to model overall.

Thanx and keep up, pitty you went over to maya though ;)

later

Its a pleasure, and I'm happy to do it, and will do so again :) and Maya heheh well maya :thumbsup: are you on the newsletter?

Thx much guys here I've chiseled in a few more grooves b4 I head off to work, I might have some extensive free cycles this weekend!!! Still blocking him out but he's coming together now :)

salud!

http://www.cgchallenge.com/tmp/rana7.jpg

[Faeroon]

Absolutely stunning...:eek:
Teach me master...teach me... :beer:

The anatomy is wonderfull - I hope I can get my model somewhere near that ...wow... geez... :surprised

[Fede]

Wow lil, fantastic.

Nope i'm on no newsletter as far as i know, not sure which one you are talking about either. But if it will befefit me i'll subscribe.

Question: are there any tri's in the quad region? and if so how bad is that?

Hectic modeling dude :applause:

Later

[YoGoLo]

good work but I think tant ths skin which make the connection between the feet and the toes is too big.
try to make it smaller :)

[lildragon]

Originally posted by Fede


Nope i'm on no newsletter as far as i know, not sure which one you are talking about either. But if it will befefit me i'll subscribe.

Question: are there any tri's in the quad region? and if so how bad is that?


Later

Hehe thx bud, and the mailing list I'm speaking of is on my kar site http://www.kar.eyecandystudios.net/

As for the tris, yes they are mixed in, I do that to get control of the forms, then I go in and clean up... thing is not to overuse them, but they can be useful in the building stage :wip:

salud

[lildragon]

Originally posted by YoGoLo
good work but I think tant ths skin which make the connection between the feet and the toes is too big.
try to make it smaller :)

Hehe yeah the look big don't they? well it's because the top of the feet are flat (no pretruding veins/muscle) Also he doesn't have that armor there yet. :D

no fiancee over tonight = working more on him tonight :D

salud

[nick]

Looking very nice lildragon :) i like the nice stong style your characters have the cool definition in the muscle shape. Good stuff!!!!! :thumbsup:

[Fetus23]

Nice update lildragon, those muscles are really starting to take shape.
Smooth work thus far man!! :thumbsup:
keep tweaking those polys...

fetus

[Joril]

The head, chest and upper legs, look quite good.
The rest needs some more work obviously.

I was wondering, what is it with maya and 4+ point polygons? The mesh looks really irregular.
Sharp groin too :surprised

Anyways, I'm looking forward to more updates!

[lildragon]

Originally posted by Joril
[B]

I was wondering, what is it with maya and 4+ point polygons? The mesh looks really irregular.
Sharp groin too :surprised B]

Yeah didn't really have time to "smooth" out the mesh yet, *still blocking in details* but I know what you mean ;) as for the groin, I'm not to worried about it, since its never going to be seen :)

salud

[Michael]

Nice and clean..
Coming along nicely according to your concept.
Looking forward to when u add the armor etc details
Great work!

Michael

[lildragon]

Thx Michael :) okie here's some work I done today, his hands, and I also corrected his posture, so he's not falling backwards anymore. Also fiddled with the details some... so as it stands final detailing coming up and then it's unto armor plates :wip:

http://www.cgchallenge.com/tmp/rana8.jpg
salud

[dur23]

This is starting to rock! i love the those qauds man. very slick and sexy. I love the size og shi neck in comparison to his head, and the whole flow of that particular area. Very slick.

Can't wait to see him textured and walking around flexing his muscles. Maybe even gettin in an arm wrestle with kar. ;)

My one critique is that the model seems a lil taller and less stalky than the concept. I like the general size of the concept more. But thats just my crazy ass opinion... :surprised :scream:

keep us posted...

:buttrock: :buttrock:

[lildragon]

Originally posted by dur23

My one critique is that the model seems a lil taller and less stalky than the concept. I like the general size of the concept more. But thats just my crazy ass opinion... :surprised :scream:

keep us posted...

:buttrock: :buttrock:

Yeah he isn't as stalky, its because I had to model him in this upright position to make rigging easier :) but rest assure he'll be hunched once rigged ;)

Thx much man, and for those watching I'll be starting on the armor next, I'm finished here this was the easy part :argh: now it's time to accessorize and kick some bootay! :D

salud

[mtmckinley]

Looking good, lildragon! :)

I hope you're enjoying Maya. I've never had any complaints with it so far. :D

Excellent work!

[lildragon]

Originally posted by mtmckinley
Looking good, lildragon! :)

I hope you're enjoying Maya. I've never had any complaints with it so far. :D

Excellent work!

I am, I'm loving it, having some gripes with the modeling and axis, but its fine now :D

gotta learn Maya's renderer this weekend :P, anyhoo still plugging away, not detailing much yet, but he's coming along

http://www.cgchallenge.com/tmp/rana9.jpg

more this weekend :wip:

salud!

[dur23]

That is a beuty!!! The trim on that armor is well done.....i like the lil bolt thingamaroos on the upper "quad plate"......

I am sad that your not doing this in xsi thought :shame:

hehe JK

keep it coming:)

[SEL]

Its funny, but ive been browsing around reading some of the general discussion stuff, checking out the gallery, and watching the challenge, and half to say. CGTALK has kept you pretty busy, along with that you still have time to model and learn another apt! FANTASTIC! btw, MAYA is in my opinion the best all around 3d software on the market right now, besides XSI, give it a couple months and youll see what I mean. The renderer is not the best though, unless you purchase mental ray. Keep up the great work in the forums and know we all got your back, your model is really coming along, I will look forward to a next armor update!

SEL

[Virtuoso]

Really coming along very well Lildragon.The heavy armor leg plates look well defined,nice shape to them as well.Looks like the heavy muscle will get some good company with some detailed heavy armor.:thumbsup:

Perhaps a armor mohawk that curves along the top portion of the head tapering down to and just below the neck could be a extra nice detailed armor plate, it might go well with the unique shape of the head and neck regions.:cool:

It's looking rather bad arse I must say.Tough,rugged,strong.Are the first thoughts that spring to mind.

As you might recall Lildragon we sprang onto the Maya train at about the same time,so we shall grow together,Max is still working alonside Maya however,I'll always have a place for it.My Brothers love is XSI with Max and Maya,greedy bastard.

;)


I am using Mental ray with Maya,I still prefer V-Ray or Brazil and Final render for Max however.In case you missed this maybe this could be another option for you,it's Gi Joe for Maya. Here is a link,I like it,it's fake GI but does the job rather well.............http://www.3dluvr.com/pixho/

Well keep up the great work,I am looking forward to more from you,I don't know how or when you you get the time,but it's working for you.:thumbsup: :beer:

[dmonk]

I love the armor on the legs. My only suggestion would be to define the wrists more if they are not going to be covered up. Great so far though.:thumbsup:

[Fetus23]

Oh ya...this guys got power!!..Really nice modeling so far lildragon :thumbsup: ...and the armor is coming along very well!!
I'm waiting for your updates!! :wip: :wip: I second the arm wrestling with kar!! :)

:wavey:
fetus

[rickycox]

Wow that armour plating look good really adds some detail to his bulk

[skello]

The plate armour on his foot is not practical if you will be setting up a foot roll on the leg later on. You may want to segment it .
Thats assuming it is plate metal and not leather or somn' flexible.
Cool model though

[SheepFactory]

:eek:

someone was a busy bee :)

thanks for making me feel bad tito , i gotta update mine now. :)

the armor looks very nice :buttrock:

[nadeemmar]

more more more..........:bounce: :bounce:

great work lildragon :thumbsup:

[SPENEN]

OOO, veery nice =), hmmm make my model look veery simple =D.
How have you modeled it? Did you use poly smooth proxy?
GL in the competition, may the best beast win =D

[l_farley13_l]

Hey lil! Looking great - only comment would be to perhaps concetrate on the joints, in particualar the shoulder (the clavical just seems to get burried and stop short) and elbow/wrist, the musculature is great - but in these areas the majority of structure comes fomr the bone.

Of course it's hard to judge joints until they're Rigged!

see you,

Farley13

[rolhionjs]

I really like your modeling skills ! Very nice work ! Can't wait to see the whole character rigged and textured ! keep going ! :thumbsup:

[lildragon]

Wow, wow lotsa responses :D okie time for an update, I spent sometime reading up on the Maya renderer and taking it for a real run, and its not as bad as most make it out to be, I actually like it :) with some more time I'll be very contented with it...

Anyhoo here's the update I haven't added any detailing to the foot pads as of yet, and the goatie is just for placement as is the loin cloth, its stiff like that for animation reasons. The next thing for me is the arm armor plates and the remaining straps and tons of fine details! weeeeeeee almost done :)

http://www.cgchallenge.com/tmp/rana10.jpg

Now for replies :)

dur23 those lil bolt thingies are part of his garment, the pad they're embedded on is going to be velvet ;)

SEL Big thx man and you forgot one thing, a fiancee that needs attention and a fulltime job :D and I still find time for 5-6hrs sleep heheh

Virtuoso thx man I was actually thinking of something on his head but decided no, just a perfect place to start showing off some detailed texturing. Gawd I hope I can figure MAya's texture editor out heheh. I haven't used max in so long now, I'm beginning to forget the hotkeys o_O. And that GI renderer is kicka$$ tho I'm not such a big fan of GI, I love to light the traditional way heheh.

dmonk Yup they'll be covered

Fetus23 An arm wrestle huh? hmmm I think I'll make Kar kick his a$$ heh

skello Yup you're right, that's why I'm making them thick flexible leather. Nice one

Sheep Factory nah nah nah

SPENEN THis is what the first challenges were like, TONS of DETAILS, it was the only way. And nope no fancy features, just straight ahead poly pushing

l_farley13_l Yup Yup, will get to them in the last detailing stage for sure

Thx everyone, much more to come :)

salud

[cerreto]

looking good your giving himw character ! i like the face and especialy the leg armor ! ill keep an eye out for an update !

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce: Looking great

Now if i may......



I hope it's okay to give these suggestions here...:bounce:

[genesis max]

That looks great Lil, almost perfect , but for it to be perfect you gotta improve his forearms, actually the whole arms because muscle are not flowing properly, improve that and it will be great.
Great character btw. :thumbsup:

[RockinAkin]

Looks like someone really liked the title I made for my last update! :D :thumbsup:

Looking great LilDragon!
You got one of my favorite entries in this entire competition.

Keep it up!
When are you going to fix the seam running down the middle of his head!!?
-DivideByZero-

[eddy-3ddy]

Can I make just one comment on the mesh? I hope you did not textured it yet.

The arm and hand are like one. Maybe make it a bit smaller, oke it's a muscled arm, but this has no wrist.

It's just anatomy, If your model is just like this, keep it, I like it anyway:buttrock:


EDIT:
Never mind, I saw it too late...

[CGSisdead]

awesome creature,master :D

[lildragon]

cerreto Thx buddy :)

DimitrisLiatsos Thx much man that was totally bothering me, I'll try it out next time :)

genesis max Yup gave those a lil twist :)

DivideByZero AWESOME! and yeah I loved it heheh, then I remembered Dafont.com ;)

3ddy yup I mentioned that earlier, his wirst will be totally covered

Well guys this is what I got in, only like a 1/2 hr today sheesh anyhoo

http://www.cgchallenge.com/tmp/rana11.jpg

salud!

[Stephen Vyas]

Wow, I dig the style...
The grin just kills me :)

[Fede]

Hey Lil, that is looking fantastic dude. Will you have time to texture it?

Could you elaborate some on how you got those shapes on his shoulder armour please, you could even do it in the MAX forum under theoretical sub-d or something we would all appreciate it.

Thanx and keep up the good work.

lata

[Fetus23]

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: Really beautiful armor lildragon!!! no crits right now, just wanted to say its looking mighty nice.. :thumbsup:

:beer:
fetus

[lildragon]

Fede I will most definitely do that when I get some free cycles :)

Fetus23 thx man :D

working on him now :wip:

salud

[Solesurvivor]

like the work you've done so far, but i can't get the thought that he's the twin brother of Kar out of my head... Maybe you should put some more details in it, that makes him different from Kar, but still bears your own style...

Keep up the good work

[BoromirNo1]

er.....OMG. :applause: This rocks :airguitar

[Mentat7]

Dang that's looking good! May I ask where you got the font for the titling of the piece?? :buttrock:

[lildragon]

Solesurvivor yeah I guess I love goat feet type characters :), but other than that he's way beefier than kar, and alot prettier :D

BoromirNo1 :D

Mentat7 dafont.com baby!!! :xtreme: search for "Lord of the rings", its on the 2nd page

I've also updated it a bit, I'm completely finished with the armor now, so all that's left in the straps and minor details... Oh and the gums/teeth/mouth area, he has to be pretty when he snarls :)

Next update will be texture and I may just rig this bad boy!

http://www.cgchallenge.com/tmp/rana12.jpg
salud

[chadlychoo]

Looking awesome lil'd! My only gripe is that the fingers look a bit square. Great work pal! :thumbsup: :applause:

[fig]

really good stuff, i hadn't checked in this in a few days and i come back to see all the armor and everything...killer work, really nice job :thumbsup:

is everything one solid mesh or is the armor separate pieces. and i know you started in wings, was everything done there or was some of it done in maya?

chris

[Stephen Vyas]

Hey Lildragon,
He's looking good!!
I noticed that theres a seem that runs down his face.. Is his face still in developement?

He kinda looks like a fella that would kill foxes and wear their pelts, like some old warrior. Ever thought about having him wearing some?

[DarkSun]

lildragon very cool model :) I really would like to see him in action :thumbsup:

[lildragon]

fig yup its all separate right now, I plan on leaving the plates separate and maybe write an expression to have them bounce against each other when he's animated! Just for that extra realism ;). I switched from wings to Maya early because I wanted to become better in Maya right off the bat, wings still holds a future with me tho :) .

Stephen VyasOh and yes his face is the last thing I'll finish, he needs gums and more definition there for sure. And he's most def an old warrior, as for the fox pelts... lol we'll see, maybe that's the padding he'll wear :twisted:

DarkSun You too huh? heheh sooon

thx guys

salud

[leigh]

Holy crap that is looking awesome, Tito!! :applause:
The only things it still needs are some straps to hold all that armour on ;) ;)

But otherwise - :xtreme:

[Virtuoso]

Another nice update.I think he will go very well within the World of Kar.Big,fierce,intimidating,bulked up,is what I am seeing.A real Warrior.The armor is getting some love too.Nicely done.

It's looking real nice at this stage.I think you are at the extra detailing and finesse stage now from what I can see at least.It should be great to see the next added touches.Very nice work there Lildragon.Very nice indeed.:thumbsup: :beer:

[NelsonInomvan]

miau :eek:

[rsalonen]

Looking really great lildragon!
I'm looking forward to see him textured, and also animated if you got the time for it.

I really would like to know what kind of expression you going to use for the plates to bounce eachother.
You have to share us with that :scream:

[flamedevil]

This is coming really nice lildragon, i like the style.
Hope we could see some animation :)

Keep it up :thumbsup:

[AgentX]

HOLY FREAKING CRAP! :eek: That is awesome. I love it. Must see textures! TEXTURES! So nice.

[mv]

Great work man... supa stylish armor:thumbsup:

[somlor]

I generally avoid adding to a chorus of cheers, but I can't resist:

KICKASS JOB LILDRAGON! :applause:

And like virtuoso mentioned, it's got the added bonus that he really fits perfectly into your own world of Kar, which I'm sure you planned. Can't wait to see him textured.

(s)

[lildragon]

Wow big thx guys, don't worry I haven't left the challenge yet ;)

Leigh yup all part of the plan, its on there ;)

Virtuoso BIG thx buddy, and you're right I think I will add him in Kar's World, will be very fitting indeed :).

Atmos_Fear :)

Veqtue THx, and I'm really looking forward to making him move :D as for the expressions I'll let you know exactly what I did, and even post it up on the Kar site, as I believe he'll be included as well

flamedevil Thx and me too heheh

AgentX Coming right up :wip: I'm very very new to texturing in Maya, tho the principles are easy to understand, and I've had a chance to study the "Basshole" turtle in that respect, so I'll see what I can come up with, still have time!!!

m@. much thx m8 heh and you have a kicka$$ character yourself, hope to see him textured

somlormuchas gracias, and you're definitely right, I believe he's in for sure heheh.

Thx everyone, here's the last modeling update, I may tweak him while I'm in the texturing phase, but this is him, I can go forever but I have to stop somewhere :)

http://www.cgchallenge.com/tmp/rana13.jpg

salud textures coming up, now just to figure it out and what style heh

[azazel]

With that armour he needs badass weapon, kinda very big big ax...;)

[Erik]

yeaah good job lildragon, i waiting for the textures like the others...and agree with azazel, he should have a big big big sword ;)

[lildragon]

Heh thx much gents, but he's going to have a hammer ;) remember the concept? :p heheh yeah I'm here tackling texturing right now, quite different, but seems extremely robust! Especially hypershade!... Hopefully I will have his head finished mid week :wip:

only 2 more weeks left :argh:

salud

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce: Go ! go !...and don't worry for hypeshade...u will love it after 2-3 hours playing with it , especially ramp shader and ramp textures .


:wavey:

[lildragon]

Heya guys, I need some ideas for his skin. I have a few but I'm not *quite* sure if it'll bring out his character if you know what I mean. I was thinking textures like the Troll in F.O.T.R kinda rough, bumpy, but I dunno :shrug: He needs to be rugged, grimy dirty, which I'll do but the actual texture.... any suggestions?

salud!

[leif]

Hey Tito,
cool model, looks very promising...
can`t wait for the textured version...

cheers
cu leif

[rolhionjs]

I think a skin like the troll of LOTR could fit to him, but maybe a different color ? With on his back some pustuls or something... About the armor, i would do something rust like the one Leigh did for her elf, but question of taste... What do you think ?

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce: :bounce: Here u go some skins possible!

[lildragon]

Wow really dig the top right and bottom left, where did you find them? Looks excellent!

thx!!

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce:
Up right is African Male Elephant Skin.

Bottom left is Rhino Skin from Max Texture lib...u have it also in your 3DSMax cd of textures (2nd cd) ...from there i am sure u can do your stuff in photoshop ;)

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce: elephant....;)

[lildragon]

Hmm very nice, the textures on the CD or a touch small tho :hmm: and I have a thing for textures being already compressed, and I don't have the time to create most of them from scratch! Hmmm but the idea for the Rhino/Elephant skin is brilliant! Very nice indeed, and I just remembered I have my Dosch texture CDs I could use :D.

Thx much bud :thumbsup:

[Clanger]

This may help, a side on view of an elephant I photographed at London Zoo some years ago, testing out my new at the time camera.


Elephant side (http://www.rgore.plus.com/CGTalk/Share/Elephant05.jpg)

[flamedevil]

i've put some skins creature in this folder :

http://www.powerofvisual.com/skintex/

hope it helps u
Good Luck for the next you're on the right way !

[Mentat7]

wow! lildragon!! That is just fab!! As far as a texture....a wrinkly/leathery/warty looking skin would be awesome....with some big gray/pinkish hairy warts....

And thank you for the link to the Middle Earth font!!:bowdown:

[Hellwolve]

Lildragon, great model. I like your weapon choice; a hammer is quite unique :thumbsup:

As for comments (mandatory over here): please don't listen to the people who suggest mold/warts/pus.

Just keep him much like an elephant. Perhaps a bit of dirt, but don't over do the "uglyness" That will look better.


(above is IMHO ofcourse)

[dur23]

:bounce: :bounce:

Looking absolutely sexy lildragon! I really enjoy the finder details of the armoring.

I still the think the area where the bicep/upper arm connects to the forearm is to skinny. Looks a lil off IMO.

Can't wait to see you bust out some nice textures.....And that arm wrestle of course... ;)

[SheepFactory]

this is turning out great Tito , cant wait to see you start to texture it!.

:beer:

[Virtuoso]

Well it's nice to see you have arrived at the texture stage. A very fierce creature fully armored,truely belongs to the World of LOTR.
I like the Rhino and Elephant skins DimitrisLiatsos suggested as well,they just seem to belong on your creature.Perhaps some wispy type fur to go along with it and some extra fun with Photoshop too would be nice additions.

I think a rust of almost a Black nature belongs on him.This creature looks to be very battle hardened,Not much time for polishing and care of his armor.Chips,scrapes,maybe a broken piece or two in the geometry of the armor.

Well I hope to see him in living color soon.Very nice thus far indeed.:beer: :thumbsup:

[lildragon]

flamedevil major kudos for those textures bud :thumbsup: I'll try them out. Thx everyone for your input thus far it definitely got me thinking :)

here's where I'm at with the uv texturing right now. Now to rid all those stretch marks :p


http://www.cgchallenge.com/tmp/rana_map.jpg

salud

[Fetus23]

elephant skin sounds like a great idea!! whats it gonna be??
:buttrock: :wip: :wip:
go go go!!!! go!! :)

:beer:

[Dreamwave]

It's looking very cool, which program is that with all those numbers on the UV's?

[Grub]

Good modelling Lil D - your guy's a bruiser.:airguitar
I'm interested in seeing the texturing...:arteest:

[Edge3343]

Hey Tito, what about the RANSOMACTIVE (http://www.ransomactive.com/start.php) texture CDs I sent you?!

;)

Looks great! I wish I had more time to work on my 3D skillz! One day I will. Keep it up, bud.

-Ashley

[KingMob]

really super man! I havent replied to this thread yet, but IM glad to see im not the only one who uses the colored checkerboard thing for uv's...hoorah for circus colors :)

cant wait to see the textures man. :buttrock:

[lildragon]

Fetus23 Actually I found the perfect texture ;)

Dreamwave not the program just a uv sheet you can grab here ;) http://www.aliaswavefront.com/en/Tmpl/Maya/html/index.jhtml;$sessionid$VUX0FEIAAR1NDQCLCVBRT4Q?page=/en/Community/Download/source_images/utility_markers/utility_markers_m.html

Edge3343 LOL!! :p you're right though, I took an in-depth look through the cd's today, and low and behold I didn't know you had skins, well leather, so I took the binder leather texture and it was just what I was looking for seriously. I found everything I needed from the CD's except for the skin, now I found it :p you gotta make a directory for creature skins next time heheh. But yeah its all there now
KingMob lol yeah.... do.. doo...do. doo... doo. doo

Back to it :wip:

[Equinoxx]

number UV images all the way WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

you go tito, you GO . . .

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce: lildragon ...Just wanted to say that i like your character very much . He has gravity and strength that shows on the model...i hope u finish him by Friday, if not surely finish him for the gallery section and definitely pose him.:beer:

[Raenz]

Nice model

[lildragon]

THe bump for the face completed. Moving on :wip:

http://www.cgchallenge.com/tmp/face_bump.jpg

salud

[Hellwolve]

Looks good.

When you finnish this one, I'll vote for it. This is my favorite race from this challenge.

[Willem]

You've got to hurry up to get this finished in time Lil'
The bump looks nice keep on working on the rest!!

greetz Willem

[lildragon]

Thx gents, once I get the bumps down painting will be easy :)

going :wip: Don't worry about the shoulder seam, it'll be covered with armor ;)

http://www.cgchallenge.com/tmp/body_bump.jpg

Too bad the fulltime job gets in the way :p

salud

[KingMob]

bah what good are full time jobs anyways..they just get in the way ;)

lookin good man! only thng is the bump on the lips seems a little thick..but with color it might make more sense.

nice updates! I like his wrinkles and bumps a lot, can't wait to see it finished... :wip:

[cakeypigdog]

hey lil d
i tried to post after you put the image of the bumped face up but i used so many smilies that my post got rejected and i couldnt bring myself to write it all again...
i just said that it was looking very nice: ive been watching yours from before i even entered. he has excellent presence: you have great contrast going on with the organic vs goemetric shapes. cool.
only one little crit was the lips (as king has now said)
i think you might improve it if you invert the bump map at the lips: i think the issue is that you have large concave shapes and little convex ones: it should be the other way around: so that the lips have form rather than looking so 'cut into'. shouldnt be a big fix and i think it will improve him greatly
your texture on his back is spendid. it looks very professional.
keep going mate. looking very nice!!:beer: :wip: :wip:

[dur23]

DAG! that is hot lil dragon! I do think however that he could whup krals butt! You should get yourself that program they used on lord of the rings to do the croud simulation and make an army of both your characters. See what happens;)

HEhe looking great, but i think your gonna be pullin an all nighter here:D

WWeeeeeee!

:wip: :buttrock: :bounce:

[lildragon]

Bah! There's no possible way I can finish :shrug: ah well my model on the challenge site will be my voting model, (I can't win anyhoo :)) but I will continue to texture this beast afterwards.

Great challenge everyone, and here's some quickly applied maps

http://www.cgchallenge.com/tmp/quick_maps.jpg

till next challenge salud!

[Bezerker75]

hey looking good...kinda reminds me of the mangalores from the movie "the 5th element", but only in a slight way...anyway can't wait to see him fully textured...:beer:

[Hellwolve]

Looks great.

To bad you can't finnish. Are you going to continue on him in this thread, or in the WIP forum?

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