CGTalk - Races of Middle Earth - character

Koma

01-11-2003, 11:09 PM

lildragon -thanks dude ,i have only did a little siesta ,sleeping its my nightmare ,so much time that we loose

Sheep Factory less i sleep:thumbsdow more happy iam:thumbsup:

cerreto ,thanks but i was planning to put more than that

mdme_sadie -thanks ,and yes sir i love detail ,he he

Remi thanks you thanks alot man:buttrock:

kingmob ,nan nan not the devil but a close friend of him ..thanks for your comment and i use xsi

chi ,Gandalf, Chad-D thanks man

Virtuoso

01-11-2003, 11:14 PM

It's going to be quite interesting,this topic and the challenge ideas I already am seeing is quite impressive,your's included Koma. Looking good already.:beer:

Koma

01-12-2003, 01:43 AM

thanks virtuoso ,and your right about the topic of this challenge the best that i see since the cgchallenge exist .:buttrock:

Koma

01-12-2003, 03:41 AM

okay here for the name of the race and the start of the story

sorry if its cheap it was write in french and translate by a translator

Cernecis
that came from two latin words :

nex necis f. [death; usually violent death , murder].

cervus -i m. [stag , deer]; pl., milit., [stakes stuck in the ground as a palisade].

It is a race very solitary and extremly dangerous. It has the capacity to traverse long distance, this is why he has tendency to follow the others when he see them,a kind of spy,he learn alot of thing,know the intention of sauron, know all the passages of the mordor, the castles of the men and the refuges of the elves, but if they see him ,he becomes terribly violent and death without is. he never eats it is victim he plants and sometimes of fish.

Koma

01-12-2003, 08:01 AM

iam not 100 % sure for the story i have another idea ,but they mean one more character so im not sure i would have the time ,will see ,okay so now time for an update ,no more bla bla

tell me what you think any idea ,suggestion ,tip whatever ,all is welcome:bounce:

Per-Anders

01-12-2003, 08:06 AM

you really are a stickler for detail! that's looking great:thumbsup:

eli-XSI-ir

01-12-2003, 08:23 AM

Koma , it's really good modeling
I am looking on his lips, if you want, you can try create bigger lips, or bigger all jaws... i think...

and, if i can ... ehm... his body will be like human??? and what about his leg? 4 legs or 2??

KingMob

01-12-2003, 08:29 AM

anychance we can see a wireframe of this?

looks kick arse!:beer:

01-12-2003, 10:25 AM

Great modelling as usual gabe :thumbsup: very close to the concept... just wondering : the upper teeth we see will be covered by skin?

Koma

01-12-2003, 03:18 PM

mdme_sadie - yeeessssss detail is cool ,thanks dude

eli-XSI-ir yep human like body and probably 2 legs 2 arms ,thanks

KingMob -i will post a wire for you ,thanks alot man

m@. thanks alot dude ,for the teeth i will see ,i will model her and fix the problem if they covered:buttrock:

Koma

01-12-2003, 03:20 PM

oups i forgot the wire

Faraguay

01-12-2003, 03:34 PM

Incredible, man...

Now it's when I'm leaving the comp...

Ok, I'll wait until the end but just to see how this one developes... I love your modelling skills and all the detail you're adding. Me too I like making very detailed models... That's because I want to leave this challenge... I'll never finish my model.

Ok, now I better stop the bla bla and get to work...

Thanks for being so... ass kicker.:p

leigh

01-12-2003, 04:44 PM

Wow, Koma that sure was FAST :surprised
Looking awesome though! Very impressive!! :thumbsup: :applause:

fellah

01-12-2003, 05:43 PM

beautiful start koma. I've seen quite alot of heads from you lately and every time they just get better and better.

BUT! :shame:
I have never seen a body from you! I hope you'll make it a really big one for this character, with a small head.

work work work :wip:

PS: sorry for the "shame avatar". I love to put them in some posts, just to scare ppl a little! :D

Koma

01-12-2003, 09:25 PM

fellah -hello really happy that you love it ,i love your work man ,and dont be sorry for the shame avatar he always me smile ,and for the body well maybe i can sugest you to check my website ,i have some complete character ,and yes the character will be huge a really big muscle and veiny body .

Leigh - thanks alot ,happy that the texture godess love it:beer:

Faraguay thanks your comment is really apreciate ,im happy that this push you:buttrock: and will follow your thread for sure....you have some f....king nice detail work on your website:thumbsup: you rox dude:bounce:

okay here a little sketch ,i was thinking to make a kind of race that use Cernecis to rid here ,the latrocinor will be a kind of punk that stole secret an weapon at other ,they alos have some contact with elves ,human and sauron ,they use them has mercenary ,more to come ,and this race was suppose to be see in the movie but they stole the tape so they have been cut ... ah hah ha:buttrock:

here a rough skech ,was trying trying to find what type of armor they will have ,sure caracteristic : vampire teeth ,teflon spike on arm ,percing all over the body ,a big mohawk and a big dirty beard ,iam not sure for the face but they will not be 100 % human

Remi

01-12-2003, 09:29 PM

Liking the update Koma...can't wait to see some more from you...:thumbsup:

Slow down though man...you're making the rest of us look lazy:shame:

Had to put the shame in there because it makes you laugh...great work though...keep it up:thumbsup: :D

bentllama

01-12-2003, 10:23 PM

Nice work Koma. Looking forward to the rest.

:beer:

[looks like I am not the only one with a deer-flavoured concept...and I thought everyone would be doing Gollum like creatures...lol]

Odrakir

01-12-2003, 10:26 PM

Now I know why you recomended more detail in my creature... I don't think my computer can handle so much detail, even if I knew how to do that.

Way to go :applause:

Odrakir = Ricardo

S E D A H

01-12-2003, 10:40 PM

vraiment cool Gabe c du bo travail sa j ai hate de voir la suite...............rien a dire...........se challenge la m a lair cool domage que j ai pas de temps pour sa j aurais aimer le faire en tk je check pour t prochain update

Koma

01-13-2003, 01:36 AM

Remi thanks man ,i cant slow down because in the week i have school so less more time to work on that:thumbsup:

bentllama - yep i saw your deer beast ,your drawing was awesome man ,really cool ,i wait for the 3d model .....and me too i was thinking that alot of pepole was make a gollum kind creature

Odrakir - thanks man ,ye i love detail ,i think that detail are the secret to get realistic feeling model:thumbsup:

Virtuoso - thanks alot man ,i was try my best and woul put the more detail that i can

sedah ,he merci ,ouiais c est poche que taille pas de temps sa l aurais ete cool ,et puis la job qu est ce qui arrive ,est ce que tu t en viens a montreal ??

and here a little update with teeth ,and mouth wide open ,i have start the punk i will show you soon

Martyr

01-13-2003, 03:27 AM

Tu parles francais donc je te parlerai francais... Ton modele est vraiment bien vraiment inspirant j'ai tout particulierement tes dents... Ca fait tres terre du milleu, un mi homme mi-chevreuil j'ai hate de voir sons corps a cette dangereuse creature continu ton bon travail!!

Odrakir

01-13-2003, 11:57 AM

I agree with you about detail being the key to realism. What I couldn't say is if it's better to model all the detail or leave it for texturing... Why didn't you use bumpmaps for some of the little wrinkles?

Great work again, I wont get tyred of saying it. :thumbsup:

rolhionjs

01-13-2003, 12:12 PM

Wow !! seems to be a very interesting character ! or creature ;) Keep going friend ! ;)

01-13-2003, 01:14 PM

Great...but me thinks the teeth are a bit exagerated..(and maybe too similar) ..he'll have difficulty to close his mouth without hurting himself.
But the head is very nice. Keep it up :beer:

eLm0

01-13-2003, 02:42 PM

looks awesome leave the teeth tho i think it makes your character looks slightly retarded abit more comedic than lethal spy type unless your other story ventures that way i still love it tho keep posting updates :thumbsup:

Threedeemer

01-13-2003, 05:43 PM

Excellent creature! It really stands out, the horns/antlers look a bit frail, but nontheless it is a great model so far. :thumbsup:

Labuzz

01-13-2003, 07:09 PM

Very scary creature and very nice details! I can't wait to see the rest!:)

Koma

01-13-2003, 07:31 PM

Martyyr25 - merci beaucoup cool de voir du mon de du quebec ,je suis de montreal ,vive le quebec:thumbsup:

Odrakir ,well thanks ,for the detail ,i think that its depend on what kind of shot you wanna do ,for close close up its better to have alot of detail or maybe using displacement ,and for animtion its right that would put less detail and use bump but this a still image challenge and i dont plan to texture it ,so ill put the more i can in the model ,thanks alot

.::STRIKE::. thanks ,merci alors ca va toi ?tres cool ta creature :thumbsup:

m@. your right about the teeth ,but i was thinking to change the desgin my baest anyway ,thanks lot for your reply

eLm0 thanks alot man

Threedeemer thanks ,yep your right about the horn ,but like i said the design will be 100 % new ,dont really like her

Labuzz - thanks dude

well if you know me a bit ,you know that i always change idea ,the first was never the best ,and my master and friend xtrm3d that i respect dont like my design ,so i will try a kind of mix with an alligator and a elephant ,that would ride my punk elf .

okay so here the start of the elf ,pretty human i know but i will just be the ridder

Koma

01-13-2003, 07:36 PM

and here his sword

pit

01-13-2003, 08:27 PM

My dear TAFKAG (the artist formerly known as Gabe) - as your pics popped up I thought: :eek: Sh•••t, that´s so freaking cool - I wanna be that good!!
Really love every poly of it! Is the hair the XSI Shave and a Haircut implemented thingy? Just bought S&aH, so I look forward to check out its potential. Keep ´em coming.

Koma

01-14-2003, 01:16 AM

ebur - here the new beast that i would make the story would came later -- ebur is a latin word that mean made with ivory or something like that ,this is just a start about 4 hours of modelling ,still some detail to had and have to think how the body will be ......... well tell me what you think i think the design of this one was better ,they more fit into the lotr world ....

and thanks alot pit ,yes this is xsi hair ...potential seam cool ,but limited like every other hair plug - in but they find well for render and they are really easy to use:bounce:

01-14-2003, 01:24 AM

Great work... you're so good at modelling heads... that beast reminds me a bit Pascal Blanché's BoB... :) very cool!

Koma

01-14-2003, 01:30 AM

Originally posted by m@.
Great work... you're so good at modelling heads... that beast reminds me a bit Pascal Blanché's BoB... :) very cool!

well its probably just because the horn ,i was wondering about that :rolleyes: ,if i remove the horn they have no resemblance ,but they also miss something:shame: ,horn add alot of power to the beast and to the design

thanks alot m@

S E D A H

01-14-2003, 01:58 AM

nice work gabe keep it up.............

Koma

01-14-2003, 07:04 AM

thanks sedah .......... and heee ,mmmmmm new head ,new beast in progress and no one reply exepct sedah and m@ you dont like the new design or what :rolleyes:

and i also have a little ??? for the mod ,why the attachement are like they are .. we have to click on it ...... ???:annoyed:

Grub

01-14-2003, 07:20 AM

Nice work here Koma, I'm especially looking forward to the progression of the rider model.:beer:

nadeemmar

01-14-2003, 09:37 AM

good work koma

love the last one a lot

keep going:bounce:

01-14-2003, 10:06 AM

why the attachement are like they are .. we have to click on it

I just read in another thread that it was to save bandwith but that it will come back normally after some time ...

Virtuoso

01-14-2003, 11:17 AM

Looks like a powerful beast Koma.......Keep going with it.It's got the potential to be a very good and interesting creation.:beer:

01-14-2003, 11:21 AM

OUCH!!!!:eek: better and better........:thumbsup: .....every challenge u make a better work than previous.......amazing....u ar an amazing guy.....

Wiz

01-14-2003, 12:52 PM

Man.. your modeling is AMAZING!
how u do it so fast and so amazing?
but i like the other beast better!

maybe do both ? :))

Stillwell

01-14-2003, 09:27 PM

Ton modèle est complètement hallucinant! J'adore!

J'aurais quelques questions à te poser à propos de Nad... Ça te dérangerais si je te filerais un email pour poser les questions?

dakmoden

01-14-2003, 11:54 PM

I have to say I actually really liked your first model except for the teeth, they just somehow didnt quite fit in with the rest of the model, but it was beautifully modeled. This last one is truly amazing as well, either one looks to be shaping up to be winning material! :beer:

Koma

01-15-2003, 02:40 AM

Grub ,thanks alot ,i will concentrate myself on the beast first and after on the rider

nadeemmar thanks happy to hear that someone like it:bounce:

m@. okay thanks it was what i thinking

Virtuoso ,thanks alot man ,your work are like flower in y hearth ... he he ,thanks alot:thumbsup:

-OZ- hey man ,thanks alot ,im really happy that you love it ,and hey i stil dont forget that we have to make a piece in team before i die ,i really wanna work with you :bounce: :thumbsup:

Wiz thanks man ,secret is in pratice ,and i think that the last beast have a better design but the first have more detail ,but the second one will have alot more detail ,maybe i will use the head of the first in the compo ,cut in the ground or at the and of a axe

Stillwell - merci beaucoup ,et oui pour le nad ,voila mon e-mail gab.t.b@sympatico.ca et s ta msn ben gab008@msn.com

dakmoden thanks man ,like a said at wiz ,i was not quite satisfied with the first one design ,the second one fit better into the tolkien world i think and the detail will come for sure .

okay here a little update ,really busy with other work , just the shape of the body .to give an idea on where i go

01-15-2003, 03:26 AM

All of it is comming along wonderfully! Can't wait to see more, any chance of seeing some wires of the rider? Keep up the awesome work!!! :beer: :thumbsup:

Koma

01-15-2003, 07:18 AM

The Residual thanks man ,and yep you ask you have it ,but first here an update

Koma

01-15-2003, 07:19 AM

and here the wireframe

Dirk_P_Ho

01-15-2003, 07:42 AM

Looks very nice, but i think the centre of gravity is too far forward for it to be able to balance, i think his tail is gonna have to be longer and meatier.

nadeemmar

01-15-2003, 09:43 AM

what Dirk_P_Ho said is right ...but fixing that will be easy if i make him with four legs

BTW .......Great creature you got there:thumbsup:

01-15-2003, 11:14 AM

Great :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: I think two legs is just right, for the style, and for something else you are certainly thinking of too;)
keep it up, I'm waiting to see the punk riding it :beer:

Johnlittle

01-15-2003, 11:19 AM

Yes Dirk are correct,but still a fine work.:bounce:

Faraguay

01-15-2003, 11:38 AM

Ok Koma... now I hate you. really. Sans blague!
Every image I see in this thread is good enough to win the challenge...

I like your last beast. But I'm not sure about the punky rider... It's a funny idea, but I wonder if it'd fit in your model... anyway, like you said, it's only the rider...

Thanks for your comments about the work in my web...

I'll be around waiting for updates (disons...une heure ou deux... tu n'as pas d'école???? Tu dors pas? Tu manges pas? :p ).

leigh

01-15-2003, 06:44 PM

That's a lovely beast you have there! :applause: I particularly love the udders!
Awesome work, to say the least - keep it up!!

01-15-2003, 08:45 PM

Heheh yeah I couldn't help but chuckle a lil when I saw the udders. It looks kinda menacing with the horns and tusks... then I looked down an... you can milk the meany too haha :P

The models lookin good man. Only tiny crit I see has already been mentioned a few times bout the ability to balance well.

Either way I still :applause: you! :D

stereo

01-15-2003, 09:58 PM

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

01-15-2003, 11:58 PM

NO WAY!...u are a mester....ur models are so detailed and well proportioned! Everytime u surprise me....where u are going man!??:beer:

FraggleFart

01-16-2003, 12:26 AM

Udders are awesome!! :thumbsup:
But looks like he (she?) would topple over. Perhaps some great big claw toes would sort out the center of gravity.
Looking good tho, and again AWESOME UDDERS!:applause:

dakmoden

01-16-2003, 04:18 AM

WOW :eek: your models, as always, are absolutely amazing! :applause: the subtle folds of skin are superb and the muscle structure is truely superior! I am in udder ;) awe. :bowdown:

the only thing i might consider if i was you is modifying that bottom lip. through all the skin folds you, suggest that its outer body is mostly loose flesh and that large bottom lip would actually sag if that was the case. Just a suggestion though.

Great WORK! :buttrock:

Koma

01-16-2003, 08:22 AM

Dirk_P_Ho - thanks man and yes your right ,i make the tail longer and bigger

nadeemar - thanks dude ,nan i dont wanna give him 4 legs i love the look with two legs ,tell me what you think about this update ,maybe i will add two little arm just like the t-rex

m@. thanks man ,your monkey start looking pretty cool:thumbsup:

Johnlittle thanks

Faraguay he he he ,hey man i love you ... he he ,and sorry to not update after 2 hours ,j avais de l ecole aujourdh ui et je suis aller au cinema ,mais bon pour le dodo non j ame pas trop dormir ,mais bon c est impossible ........thank alot

Leigh thanks dudess .... hi hi ,your entry looking completly awesome ,but i have already told you ,keep it up to and thanks

The Residual thanks man ,but they not give regular milk they give chocolate milk ..yah .i love this

stereo thanks:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

-OZ- he he .iam a mester what is a mester ....mmm dont know .ha ha ha .iam kidding .......thanks alot ..well goig in this direction a noooooooo this one .oh no no no the other ......let me suprise you:thumbsup: another time:airguitar :beer:

FraggleFart thanks ,but i will go with the big tail ,i wanna keep feet like there is to fit with the mamel just like a cow

dakmoden thank alot man ,really happy that you love ,im not 100 % undestand what you mean because my english is bad ,but i think that the lower lip are okay

okay so here the update ,fix the gravity problem ,and add some props ,anyfeedback are truly welcome , do you love the evolution ,some idea for other props ,im really open for anything ?

mod ---- why the size attachment are at 30 k ,nice pict with 30 k ouch .........pretty hard

Koma

01-16-2003, 08:23 AM

and other view

rolhionjs

01-16-2003, 08:27 AM

yea ! Wow that's a great creature !! :) :bounce: :beer:

Tu vas faire le cavalier aussi ?

Keep going !!

xtrm3d

01-16-2003, 08:47 AM

:beer: :buttrock: :eek: :eek: :beer: :beer:
i really love the cow felling...
as alway grea modelling job..
but now my friend it's time to dod cool rendering like these you did before :-)

SheepFactory

01-16-2003, 08:49 AM

:bowdown:

InnerVortex

01-16-2003, 01:12 PM

:bowdown:

Joel Hooks

01-16-2003, 01:43 PM

:bowdown:

01-16-2003, 01:57 PM

Allah Akhbar.. euh... great!

Joel Hooks

01-16-2003, 04:07 PM

This is the feel I wanted with my challenge piece (I lack what they call artistic vision).

Great work. I can't wait to see him with the rider.

levin

01-16-2003, 04:31 PM

great work!!!
i luv it!

but still looks unbalanced somehow...
longer tail?

:bounce: :buttrock: :thumbsup:

nadeemmar

01-16-2003, 09:17 PM

:eek: :eek: :eek:

what can i say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

great work Koma.........i will suggest now keeping him with two legs and without hands:buttrock: :buttrock: :thumbsup:

Virtuoso

01-16-2003, 09:23 PM

It's the beast of burden challenge all over again.:p

But a wonderful Beast it is. Nice creature Koma,it's coming along well,I like the look and feel already,and am anticipating even more fine details. keep up the fine modeling.:beer:

funnydoodle

01-17-2003, 02:05 AM

nice.... but balance is not there still... altho theres a long big tail..... i've a suggestion....... try giving him feet of larger base, and make the base longer...... something like a crow's feet, or a T rex's feet....... it'll help a lot to balance i think,.,.

cuse

01-27-2003, 11:52 AM

nice work indeed! cant wait for more...

cuse

nadeemmar

02-07-2003, 04:08 PM

heay ...koma ......where are you man!!!!!

i really missed your work:wavey:

rolhionjs

02-07-2003, 04:10 PM

same here !!! come back please !! :buttrock:

Koma

02-16-2003, 02:12 AM

really sorry i overload of work here .......... i did some supplement but im really not happy with this .... but like i said to much work here ...........see ya in another one challenge all .........and thanks for your reply

http://www.cgchallenge.com/entries/1049/20_large.jpg

Fetus23

02-16-2003, 02:22 AM

Nice work there!!..I'm loving all those details...really great stuff :thumbsup:...but you have to texture it!!. Please!!

:beer:

02-16-2003, 09:44 AM

Too bad you haven't much time :hmm: that's really a great model! see you!

nadeemmar

02-16-2003, 02:49 PM

really great work.................it is really bad you don't have time to texture it

02-16-2003, 10:19 PM

Dont try to say that u are not a MASTER!!! u are!:buttrock: :beer: :applause:

leigh

02-19-2003, 08:54 PM

Cool model! :applause:

The bottoms of the hooves look a little odd though - like they are just a little too smooth. Otherwise, fantastic piece! I hope you texture it too!!

Koma

02-19-2003, 10:01 PM

leigh your right ... but i have like i already said im to busy right now .. i cant but more work on it ..... this make me sad ... but its the life ..... he he .. thanks

-OZ- bla bla bla ... who has been interview by cgchallenge not me YOU who have a thread with over 200 reply not me YOU ... you are the master .........he he thanks oz you are fantastic

thanks nadeemmar ...m@ and fetus 23 i also find that bad that i cant continu it .... but i have to work need money to eat ... he he

and here some wireframe and a shot of the big rider alone

http://members.lycos.co.uk/gabe3dart/headwire.jpg
http://members.lycos.co.uk/gabe3dart/wire.jpg
http://members.lycos.co.uk/gabe3dart/rider.jpg