Please need help....

[narutorendan]

I forgot to put the drawing, here it is...

[DamonDuBois]

There's some nice detail work in this painting. It's also got a very nice style.

I'm not clear on what's happenning with the girl's arms though. Is the oni head(I'm assuming it's an oni) part of her armor? Are her arms inside of it?

edit: actually on closer inspection, I see her left arm. I'm still confused about what's happenning with her right arm.

[narutorendan]

well, the thing is, that the monster is so big, and she is putting the arm behind where the hair is, so if I show her right arm on the other side, it might be way too long for the woman(because the monster is big). So that's why it's cut off.

By the way, thank you for your positive feedback :D

[DamonDuBois]

Oh ok, I see.

Well, I'll see if I can give you some helpful input on this.

I think you've got a really good start on this image. I think there are a few things that could be done to take the image a little further, though. Her eye seems to be tilted a little too much the left and her mouth seems to be tilted a little too much to the right. Also her hair doesn't seem completely convincing too me.

Here's some really awesome tutorials on eyes, mouths and hair that I've found helpful:

http://www.furiae.com/index.php?view=gallery


I think if you could get the details of here face and hair more realistic it would help the image alot.

I love the design of the monster in your image, but there are a few things about the way it's rendered that don't seem quite right. The end of his nose seems skewed to the right a little. Maybe some good reference of a lions head would help with the nose. And the patterns on his skin are really cool, but the skin surface(or type) itself isn't really clear. Maybe it could have more rinkles in the skin. There are rinkles around the eyes, but it could also have rinkles around the nose and on his fore head(maybe a more furrowed brow). It might also help if the specular highlights followed the rinkles a little bit, especially if you add rinkles to his forehead.

And finally, the hand-guards on the sword that the monster is holding seem to be sitting at different angles, which looks like an error. Getting them both looking like they are at the same angle might help.

Anyway, hope some of this is helpful :)

[narutorendan]

Ok, I'll try my best to improve on those points! I might make changes on other stuff as well(the hair of the monster I want to try and work at)!

Really, thanks again! If anybody else wants to comment more, please do, it would really be appreciated.

[nafa]

The texture on the monster is very nicely rendered, but seemed artificial (ie, painted by human instead of created by nature). His nose also seemed crooked.

I had problem linking the woman's head to her body and had a feeling that it is dislocaated. Her breasts also look oddly shaped and placed. Did you use any anatomical reference?

[narutorendan]

no references at all. I did it all out of my head, and that's why it probably doesn't look right.....hmmm maibe I should just wholy redesign her in a different pose.....

[narutorendan]

as you notice, I changed the style of the girl. I put not very bright colors on the girl just to counter balance with the monster. If there is anyone that would critique this painting to make it better, it would be very much apreciated <:D


The size is big, so it looks kinda compressed and bad.

[narutorendan]

no one could please help me? It would be very much apreciated...

[Elliepower]

Hi narutorendan,

it is difficult to give any suggestions. How did you started this? Where do you wanna go?

Your picture is very nice, if you want it to look free without any aspect to make it look more realistic or perhaps you wish a manga look. I don't know what you want it to go to.

Give a bit more information to work with :).

Ciao,
Ellie

[narutorendan]

I'm really sorry about this, I guess I should explain more.

hmmm...I want a drawing that is a mix between a reality and cartoon. I am not good enough to do real people(although I'm starting to learn now), so for right now, somewhat realistic is fine for me.

I want the girl to have a sense of like a ghostly feeling(pale, delicate), yet have some strong feeling in her that shows a form of inner strength.


I don't know, I want a drawing that is mysterious and beautiful yet have a form of delicacy on it too.

There was this person that told me a couple of more pointers that I'm going to try to fix, and when I do that I'll update again.

I hope this somewhat helps :D

[nafa]

In the new drawing, the girl's hand is in a strange location. You should look for reference of people in your intended posture, or at least post yourself in front of a mirror, and check where things should be.

[Elliepower]

Hi narutorendan,

I am a beginner, too, and startet my own anatomy thread in this area: http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=200

And you can find a great resource and much stuff to learn.

With your picture, I think there are some probs with the perspective and also proportion of the girl and the dragon, but I am the wrong person to say correctly what it is. Reality also comes with realistic proportions and a correct setting of light and shadow.

You have got a great start, really. Take a look to the anatomy forum, it helps a lot.

Ciao,
Ellie :)

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