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leigh 01-10-2003, 10:47 PM Just wanted to be the first one to post my challenge thread! :bounce:
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So u are inn this time........he he he heeeee....:D
leigh
01-11-2003, 04:41 AM
Yeah OZ :D
Only problem is, despite the fact that I have had ages to think about this challenge, I am COMPLETELY stumped for ideas! :cry: :cry:
I have ABSOLUTELY no idea what to make!!! :sad:
And the fact that my damn computer is giving me issues with my Wacom means that I cannot even doodle some concepts in Photoshop :annoyed:
nan nan ,this is not a good reason keep thinking ,be inspire maybe you can model one of the 657 concept that oz will make for this concept ,let go girl .........impress us ,like you do all time:thumbsup:
bentllama
01-11-2003, 05:32 AM
Originally posted by Leigh
And the fact that my damn computer is giving me issues with my Wacom means that I cannot even doodle some concepts in Photoshop :annoyed:
kill some trees. scan them in. :)
create a race called "the Leigh"...that hail from the south, sporting tribal locks and piercings...and are really LOUD... ;)
:beer:
gruvsyco
01-11-2003, 06:53 AM
How about some kind of water based creature. Maybe with some sediment from the bottom of the Stream/River from which he came. You could even make it a sediment skeletal structure. Just throwing some ideas out to ya.
BlueCougar
01-11-2003, 06:59 AM
Look around you down there in South Africa, get out a little bit out of the city. Doesn't Africa have all the exotic wildlife? That should be some inspiration. Unless that idea is so totally out of the question it'll inspire you to think of something staying in doors!:cool:
Mangled Poly
01-11-2003, 07:17 AM
Where do i sign up to be your number one fan in this challenge? huh leigh?
Michael
01-11-2003, 09:39 AM
I am sure I saw some scary creatures at night in Newlands Forest, could be my imagination...Or up in the Karoo land.
It has to be at night, that gets your imagination going....
M
dark_lotus
01-11-2003, 12:41 PM
HA Leigh, I have an idea.
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Good luck - although I won't be surprised if you win :P
coCoKNIght
01-11-2003, 02:09 PM
Hi Leigh
I'm looking forward to seeing your character develop!
Apt Pupil
01-11-2003, 06:17 PM
ya, go leigh GO!!:bounce: :bounce:
Maybe you could make that harry man of a beast they showed on the show your picture thread (quite a while back);)
chadlychoo
01-11-2003, 07:47 PM
The texturing goddess hath joined the challenge… :bowdown:
KingMob
01-11-2003, 08:03 PM
just making a comment so when the concepts and models start flowing I won't be the last to know....
good luck leigh (like you need it, haha)
Just jumping on the bandwagon...making an effort to post in everyones thread...gotta keep tabs on all of ya you know...:D
ilasolomon
01-11-2003, 09:42 PM
I'm just :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: to see what that would be!
never
01-11-2003, 10:36 PM
Hey me too !!
Wanna Join ILA ???? ;)
Reza
k, howbout this, and be sure to tell kate - as she is the inspiration.
deep in the shadowy areas of middle earth known to the human race as Woodstock, a breed of filthy, dodgy, porn graffitti spraying trolls lurk. there only reason for existance, pillaging the surrounding lands stealing bed linen and expensive electronic equipment.occasionally known to smash a window or two.
haha - just take your cam into the street after dark for reference.
leigh
01-11-2003, 11:01 PM
Wow, more than a page of comments, and I haven't even posted anything :surprised
Thanks for all the kind comments and ideas! :D
Okay, now since I am a mod and I can't win the challenge, I have decided to go for a heavy influence from the Elves, and I think what I am going to do is an Elven wraith.
Since I do not have a scanner here (it's at my folks place), and my Wacom is giving me grief on this computer, I'm going to start modelling now, and then post the concept when I can....
So, see you all soon with a taste of what is to come! :bounce:
Virtuoso
01-11-2003, 11:39 PM
Elven wraith......................Sounds real speacial. Knowing your love for all that is textures it will be great to see what you have in store as a skin color,plus possible extras upon the overall character. Being a Wraith will you be going for a transparent type wispy ethereal look?
This will be fun to follow Leigh. See you after your update.:thumbsup: :)
Dirk_P_Ho
01-11-2003, 11:44 PM
Definately eagerly awaiting the unveiling of this!
Projectkmo
01-12-2003, 12:19 AM
ya, an Elven Wraith, that sounds like it'll be great... I look forward to seeing the WIP on this one!!
leigh
01-12-2003, 12:37 AM
Thanks kindly for all the supportive words again :)
Okay, here is a description of what I am making...
The idea of this character is an Elven Wraith.
In Quenya, it would be called an ëala-anamo ( "spirit of doom"). These spirits, no doubt the manifestations of the tortured souls of elves slain in battle, haunt ancient battlegrounds and are said to appear to elves and wizards, and other "higher" races in times of peril or danger.
Their outward appearance is haggard and frightening, and they are still garbed in their battle armour. Their continued torment inbetween the realm of the living and the dead cause them to contort their faces, and writhe as if in pain.
Although the armour and cloaks that they wear appear to be solid, their actual bodies have a wraithlike appearance, that is they appear to have no solid subtsance to them, but rather a feathery, wisp-like quality that constantly quivers.
Originally posted by Leigh
...Their continued torment inbetween the realm of the living and the dead cause them to contort their faces, and writhe as if in pain. [/B]
Sounds like a hangover to me! :D
UrbanFuturistic
01-12-2003, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by AJ_23
Sounds like a hangover to me! :D ROFL, know the feeling :p
You betta come up with something kickass after all this kerfuffle Leigh ;)
regards, Paul
SheepFactory
01-12-2003, 01:51 AM
Come on Leigh where is the sketch!? :D
as if i have one
and :beer: to AJ for the good laugh
Virtuoso
01-12-2003, 02:00 AM
So do they quiver like jello? It sounds like this will be a very fine creation< I am looking forward to it. Ethereal beings can be the most beautiful of all. :thumbsup:
Joril
01-12-2003, 02:04 AM
Woohoo, this sounds promissing, I can imagine quite a few things already from the description.
I can't wait!
urgaffel
01-12-2003, 03:08 AM
You'd better not leave it half finished this time Leigh ;)
Where's that concept/sketch eh?
Per-Anders
01-12-2003, 03:15 AM
sounds a cool concept, now for the substance :)
leigh
01-12-2003, 03:30 AM
The concept sketches will only be up when I can go to my parents place and scan them ;)
Okay, here is the armour so far:
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_01.jpg
chadlychoo
01-12-2003, 03:32 AM
Brilliant! Great start Leigh. :buttrock: :buttrock:
Dirk_P_Ho
01-12-2003, 03:33 AM
Leave it to Leigh to raise the bar for all of us with her first WIP :P
Great stuff :thumbsup:
KurtBoutilier
01-12-2003, 03:36 AM
Great start
Faraguay
01-12-2003, 03:51 AM
Awesome start. Looking at your work I think I'd better start modelling my creature.
I love your concept too. You're going to have fun texturing her body... Don't you?
I don't understand why mods can't participate in the challenges...
skello
01-12-2003, 04:09 AM
Originally posted by Leigh
[B]The concept sketches will only be up when I can go to my parents place and scan them ;)
So you must be modeling without templates...awesome!!
leigh
01-12-2003, 04:18 AM
Chad-D, Dirk_P_Ho and Kurt B - thanks for the support :thumbsup:
Faraguay - yeah, this one is going to be awesome to texture! I've never done a ghostly creature before :D
And as for participating, well, of course we are free to participate as much as we want, but we just aren't elible to win prizes :)
skello - yup! It is a challenge, after all! ;) Actually, I usually always model without templates, I find templates distracting!
Anyhoo, small update:
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_02.jpg
dark_lotus
01-12-2003, 04:50 AM
Hmmm, a creature with an elven influence. GEE THATS ORIGNAL lol.
Doesn't at all sound like anything i'm working on. :p
Nothing at all.
lol
Coming along nicely!!!
urgaffel
01-12-2003, 04:54 AM
Work... FASTER :D
Good stuff Leigh. I'm keeping out of this one, I'm sticking to my robot lady for now :)
leigh
01-12-2003, 06:45 AM
One more update before I go to bed (it's now 8:37am! Sleep is needed now...)
The leather straps holding the knife are temporary for now, I will come up with a more interesting scabbard design once I've had some sleep :)
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_03.jpg
Per-Anders
01-12-2003, 06:49 AM
looking good, a samurai elf perhaps? this is going to look great textured :)
leigh
01-12-2003, 06:58 AM
Hehehe not a samurai, no :p
What I have used for a lot of my ideas are the concept designs on the LOTR dvds - all the Elven designs are very organic, with shapes derived from nature. I still need to tweak the armour here a bit - especially the shoulder armour, to get the shapes more leaf-like ;)
When they are textured, I will be putting faint Celtic style designs into the armour, almost like etchings, to detract from the eastern look somewhat, although there will also still be a faint trace of eastern influence in it.
In the documentaries on the dvd, the designers at Weta workshop said that their designs were supposed to have an historical (as opposed to totally fantastical) look, but of an indiscernable origin. So that is the kind of thing that I am going for - something that looks like it could have been around at some point in our own history, but which has a culture that is difficult to pinpoint completely :)
urgaffel
01-12-2003, 08:04 AM
That's looking really nice Leigh.
Det blir nog riktigt snyggt om du bara lyckas göra färdigt alltihop... ;)
(btw, leigh, check my latest... robotgirl wip (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=332945#newpost) )
Virtuoso
01-12-2003, 08:58 AM
Boy oh boy,or should I say Girl oh girl,really very nice high quality work Leigh espeacially in such a short time. Very nice elven feel to the armor already. Possibly a little "Mithral" mixed in with the armor here or there? I am very big on intricate details,and you are showing them well already.
Very nice thus far ,it's got a very elegant look already,just as a elven Wraith's armor should have. :beer:
lildragon
01-12-2003, 09:21 AM
is that all you got huh huh? is that it!!! :argh: dangit girl you're making the rest of us looking bad :p, at any rate at this point he's and empty "shell" of a man hehehe
rock on :buttrock: I shudder to think what you'll do come texture time :surprised
salud
Mangled Poly
01-12-2003, 09:28 AM
lil do us all a favor and judt delete this thread nothing useful will come from it.. except scare people from joining the contest... lol
Very nice concept & progress! I like the connections between the armour plates...In fact I like all the design :)
Gandalf
01-12-2003, 01:05 PM
Incredible as we could attend, can't wait to see how u will create the ghostly body!! :thumbsup:
What a powerstart Leigh! Damn, when did the challenge start? Yesterday right? Come on, slow down girl! :D
Was wondering if you have the body roughed out allready...or how do you know the armor will fit/have the proper proportions?
Nice one!
Wiro
coCoKNIght
01-12-2003, 01:41 PM
:) Wiro: I was wondering the same thing, but thinking well of it, I'm sure she's gonna tweek that in no time ;)
dark_lotus
01-12-2003, 01:45 PM
Hey Leigh, did it surprise you how much stuff got crammed onto those dvds.
Crickey!
Your definitely on the right track.
Laa-Yosh
01-12-2003, 02:46 PM
I have to agree that you should use some template to fit the armor on, it looks a bit too thin right now.
Hey Wiro... can't find your challenge thread. Don't tell me you want to miss it :)
leigh
01-12-2003, 10:34 PM
Thanks so much for all the kind comments, everybody, it's really good to see all the support :love: Thank you, all of you :)
Wiro - I'm just kinda going with the flow. I'll kinda build the body out of what I have here. Remember, the body is going to be withered and wraithlike, so it will almost be something that kinda floats inside the armour.
Laa-Yosh - yeah, some areas (especially around the belt) need some tweaks, to give the structure a more believable look, however, the Elves are rather slender things - not all that much shape to them. I have thickened the armour out somewhat, in terms of it's width :)
And here is another hours worth of modelling!
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_04.jpg
More updates coming as soon as I have them - and I have all night ahead of me!!! :bounce:
Tommy Lee
01-12-2003, 10:37 PM
Wow...Amazing work so far....:thumbsup: :buttrock:
Cheerz:beer:
Tommy Lee
Gandalf
01-12-2003, 10:39 PM
Great model! :thumbsup:
I have only a crit, I agree with Laa-Yosh, it seem a bit too thin...
freddylierman
01-12-2003, 10:49 PM
that's some great progress leigh
Love the clothing !:thumbsup:
would be great seein a wire tho , keep it up !
uthuan
01-12-2003, 10:50 PM
Wonderful progress on the armor/clothing . . . the attention to detail on the buckles and fasteners is really great! :thumbsup:
As for the proportions . . . I kinda like the idea that the transformation to wraith has warped the shape and look of the armor and the character itself. The ringwraiths in the movie were very distorted in this way . . . at least when Frodo saw their true form while wearing the ring. It might be interesting to actually modify the elven armor a bit and maybe "evil" it up a tad . . .
Just my 2cents . . . :D
Keep up the wonderful work!
KingMob
01-12-2003, 10:54 PM
certainly not letting us down!
cant wait to see the critters, and...oh, Leigh, were you planning on texturing this critter? :rolleyes:
looking good!
leigh
01-12-2003, 11:28 PM
Thanks once again for all the overwhelming support :love:
uthuan - since this Elf would have been slain in battle, I will be messing the armour up a bit once it's done. I'm going to make some of the plates slightly unhinged and I'm going to add cuts and holes in the plates her and there.
I like your idea of contortion :thumbsup: I'm not going to for exactly the same look as in the film, but something similar ;)
However, I'm not going to make him look evil - for once, I'm going to make a nice character! :D
Here is another quick update. I've thickened the armour more, so that his torso appears more sturdy.
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_05.jpg
Oh, and OF COURSE I'm going to texture this!!
InnerVortex
01-12-2003, 11:32 PM
looks cool leigh, dunno if someone sayd that before of it is the look u want but it looks abit thin to me. but is looking really fine the design, i like the details on it
Faeroon
01-12-2003, 11:55 PM
Damn you Leigh! :eek: :D
The contest's just started and already the whole armour is nearly finished??
DO YOU EVEN THINK ABOUT SLEEPING? :surprised
I bet you don't!
Anyway - great idea (even appropriate elvish name :applause: ) with the elvish wraith. I wonder what he looks like when all is finished.
Good luck :thumbsup:
ChickenPixel
01-13-2003, 12:10 AM
wow.... I like it alot !
Cant wait to see the body...or can we see it? it is transparent, isn't it? :applause:
-chickenpixel
leigh
01-13-2003, 12:20 AM
Righto, time for another update! Thanks once again for the kindness, everybody :D:D
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_06.jpg
eli-XSI-ir
01-13-2003, 12:22 AM
w.o.w.
Leigh......... ouuuuu... I SEE IT WITH TEXTURE.... ou noooo...
somebody destroy .... .... it :)
Brilliant work Leigh...really like the armor....nicely done...keep it up:thumbsup:
Dirk_P_Ho
01-13-2003, 12:53 AM
My god, such progress, wonderful stuff
PhilOsirus
01-13-2003, 12:57 AM
Leigh, how did you model the armor? Did you use spline, the thickener plug-in or something else? It looks really good, I think you keep getting better quickly.
Make sure the proportions are right before you keep going tho, looks a big long. If you notice an error proportion-wise later on it will be difficult to correct with all the detail.
:thumbsup:
Iguiniz.X.
01-13-2003, 01:03 AM
I c you have a keen eye or detail, :thumbsup:
This is looking great, can't wait to c you fill the aromor with this wisp like body.
Although I think the proportions are right and the armor wil substain a wisp like body. ANd don't know if it is your intention.
But I can't get the feeling away that tells me that the contour of the body is a bit to vertical/ thin.
I would say that it is arround the hips were a bit more volume might give it a less thin look..
Can't put it better into words..
The middel one of the three armors in you last picture gives me the impresion I try to explain..
Edit: seems likePhil "Osirus" posted the smame at the same time
leigh
01-13-2003, 01:43 AM
Thanks a lot for all the suggestions, most appreciated :thumbsup:
Phil "Osirus" - I just model from scratch, and then kinda wrap the polys over at the edges to form nice edges for the armour :)
I almost always tend to model poly by poly. I use mainly Extender and Bandsaw to model.
And yeah, there is a bit of an issue with the length. I've made the torso a little more squat now, but I want to try and maintain an Elf like statue to him - which is kinda tall.
Iguiniz.X. - thanks for the suggestions :) Yeah, I need to increase his hips, thanks for reminding me ;)
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_07.jpg
Per-Anders
01-13-2003, 01:48 AM
well that's looking good, you've already got the crits on the hieght to breadth thing so that's not a lot i can add axcept that it would look cool with an old torn generals cape or something billowing out behind.:thumbsup:
leigh
01-13-2003, 02:15 AM
Thanks mdme_sadie, I'm trying to fix this now :)
Oh, and he's going to have a nice big billowing cloak soon ;)
Okay, I've wteaked the plates around the hips so that they all angle out more, providing more movement for the Elf, as well as increasing his thickness a bit. I need to change the skirt part still though.
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_08.jpg
RockinAkin
01-13-2003, 02:15 AM
Wow, I cant believe I didn't see this earlier!
My god, the work you've done in such a short time is crazy! :eek:
Do you ever sleep?!?! :D
I agree with the crits about the proportions.
But other than that, a very promising start!
Keep it up,
-DivideByZero-
Tommy Lee
01-13-2003, 02:43 AM
Yeah...ya may sleep a bit!!!!
Amazing work, again!!!:thumbsup:
Cheerz:beer:
Joel Hooks
01-13-2003, 02:46 AM
I like the elongated torso personally, it gives it a decidedly non-human look that I really enjoy. I think the low rise skirt piece of the armor makes the proportions look further off than they actually are. Looks cool though, I really like the Eastern feel to the armour
continueing to be amazed....thought you were a texture gal not a modeler...:thumbsup:
leigh
01-13-2003, 03:55 AM
DivideByZero - thanks! :thumbsup: Hehehe, actually this is only about 8 hours of modelling :)
And yeah, of course I sleep - it's just not bedtime yet!
Tommy Lee - thanks! :D
lowdown - I actually also like the torso elongated. Also, since it's a wraith, it might be cool to have an elongated look, because ghosts always seem to be too long - the proportions do indeed make it look less human. And yeah, it is the low cut of the skirt which creates the illusion that the torso is even more elongated than it is - those are his shins sticking out the bottom!
Thanks for the compliment!
Remi - thanks a lot!
And here is another update!
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_09.jpg
Dirk_P_Ho
01-13-2003, 03:56 AM
JESUS Leigh! do you ever take a break!?
so so good
ahrens
01-13-2003, 04:08 AM
Well only 8 hours though? Now I'm sure I should quit with 3D, no chance to get THAT fast :shrug:
One word: wonderful!
Apt Pupil
01-13-2003, 05:23 AM
Hey there leigh,
Although I haven't entered yet (have to finish up some work), I am probably going to be doing a spirit creature to. I am a little bit worried about the ethereal aspect of a ghost. So what I am basically saying is, I'll probably be asking you how you did yours when you get there:p
Can't wait to see this one finished, it's shaping up really nicely (and only two days in:eek: )
keep:wip: :wip: :wip:
leigh
01-13-2003, 06:40 AM
Dirk_P_Ho - breaks are for people who are tired! I have some energy left!! Thanks :)
ahrens - nah, see it as encouragement ;)
Apt Pupil - Cool to hear that someone else is doing an ethereal character! And yeah, of course I'll be sure to help you out in any way that I can :thumbsup:
HellRender - it's a magical substance called coffee!! :D
And here is another update for tonight! (Well, actually it's morning now :p)
The great thing about modelling a head in a helmet is that you only have to model the face!!!
The actual body (arms, hands, legs and head) still need a lot of tweaking - at the moment, they are sort of generic limbs, which I will then tweak to suit my character :)
Oh, and in this render I've added some guides to show the limb sizes - as I mentioned earlier, that skirt kinda makes the body look an odd shape, so I added those guides to show where the actual body parts are ;)
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_10.jpg
Per-Anders
01-13-2003, 06:48 AM
looking great there leigh, but the body is still too thin (x and z), and the poor etherial creature needs a bum! (ok i know you're going to say "for what?" all i can say is for the look of the thing), anyhow keep it going, it's coming along really well (and really fast too):thumbsup:
leigh
01-13-2003, 06:53 AM
STILL too thin??? :sad:
Oh deary me.... :cry:
Hehehehe he actually does already have a bum under there... perhaps I should emphasize it a little more ;)
But right now, I think it's time for bed zzzzzzzzz.... See you all again in about 10 hours time :D
maitor
01-13-2003, 06:58 AM
Nice Concept, nice model fast and clean, love the armour style. keep updating i am refreshing the page everytime...:thumbsup: :beer:
though i agree with mdme_sadie he looks very thin..poor guy is hungry...unless you want him to be so...;)
slice56
01-13-2003, 07:50 AM
yeah, the character is a little skinny, and his arms a little scrawny as well. make him swoll! hehehehe. oh yeah leigh, LOL ;)
man leigh, i didnt hear a giggle from the LOL ;)
Dirk_P_Ho
01-13-2003, 08:07 AM
Give em a hairy back! ;) :p
BladeFX
01-13-2003, 08:27 AM
looks realy great in such short timespan.
About the skinny part, aren't elves supposed to be skinny?
Vladvrz
01-13-2003, 08:38 AM
Nice job. I think it's fine as size goes. Elves are a very lean,elegant race. Just rough it up a bit come texture time,I know you have tht planned already. Nice work.:thumbsup:
ChickenPixel
01-13-2003, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by BladeFX
About the skinny part, aren't elves supposed to be skinny?
Exactly! ...and aren't wraiths usually a bit "skeletal" too.. so that's why he looks skinny...well anyway I think it is not too skinny.
Materials will change the look anyway and if there is going to be some ethereal fog or something around him, he will be perfect.
-chickenpixel
Magnusv
01-13-2003, 09:18 AM
Sometimes it's good to go against the tide. But with this you don't want to stray too far,it does have boundaries. There are limitations to this challenge. I think right now the elf looks alot like a gladiator,which is a big compliment. But with textures coming up the wraith like look will take center stage. As of now a guard of Rome,but with time a wraith of tolkian Worlds it will be.Very nice model.:)
lildragon
01-13-2003, 10:21 AM
GAH!!! Leigh you're insane that's a beaut! the only thing I would comment on is his torso area, it's a bit long. But this is a beaut, keep pumping!!!
salud
pigwater
01-13-2003, 11:08 AM
holy smoke :eek: ...last time i was here you were stumped for an idea...now..geez
looking sweet ....an so friggin fast girl :applause:
rolhionjs
01-13-2003, 12:14 PM
:applause:
Wow ! Very fast modeling ! faster than i girl ! lol
Really cool concept of elves ! It reminds me the ones we can see in the fellowship of the ring, at the beginning of the movie in the great battle of Sauron.
I can't wait to see more ! :)
BlueCougar
01-13-2003, 01:49 PM
Awesome start! I'm a Lightwave User too. For me it has the best interface for modeling, and a kick butt renderer as well! I'll be waiting to see what kind of engraving is on the armor and how it looks! You could do some kind of "ethereal energy" dimly radiating from them. OOOOoooooooOOOOOOooooo.....this ones gonna be good and creepy!
dark_lotus
01-13-2003, 01:59 PM
HOLY DARK LORD ON A STICK!!
*steals into leighs mind*
The body is still a little bit thin, the problem i think is that you've modelled the armour as if it were skin, thats why it looks thin.
Nice details!!
Clanger
01-13-2003, 02:30 PM
Sorry to add to the confusion but I really like the thin body, can't wait for the texturing.
coCoKNIght
01-13-2003, 05:49 PM
Do I have to mention that it's already looking so hot? :buttrock:
dur23
01-13-2003, 06:24 PM
We're all gonna be playing catch up to you leigh!!!
CAn't wait to see you texture this sucker up!!!:D
really nice ,happy to see other people attack modelling with furious ........ he he he .....pretty fast and pretty cool ,he look pretty thin but elfe are suppose to be tall and thin so maybe its okay:buttrock:
Hi Leight,
Do you know what will you do in February?
How I see, you will let your legs swing and just watch us working on our models.
You are extremly fast! (what is very good anyway, so congrat.:
:applause:
bye
Jenner
01-13-2003, 08:23 PM
WOw man leigh, thats just like it looks in the movie!! (im bit of a
lotr fanatic myself:hmm: ) I think all these beautiful things u make here just proves that cg really is not only a guy-thing!!!
Man... beautiful its so great keep it goin!!! :bounce: :bounce:
eirenicon
01-13-2003, 08:28 PM
I think one of the problems here is that the armor would not fit on your average elf. True, it is being worn by a wraith, but this wraith was once an elf, and the armor should not change size just because the wearer has less substance. I think the armor should be proportioned more towards the build of an elf and then let sag a little as if it's too large for the thin, ethereal body underneath.
Otherwise, that's some bloody nice modeling :thumbsup:
RobertoOrtiz
01-13-2003, 10:26 PM
Maybe if I post a "speed bump" she'll slow down.
:bowdown:
<Bump>
-Roberto
:arteest:
Mangled Poly
01-13-2003, 10:51 PM
Heres a little update just to make you all feel better.. leigh finally completed the head (hows this for a speed bump)
:beer: :beer:
eli-XSI-ir
01-14-2003, 01:09 AM
have you ever rest ????? gosh! :)
leigh
01-14-2003, 01:57 AM
Wow, that's a lot of comments! :surprised :D
Righty righto...
I must admit, I rather like the lankiness of it right now, I think that I will probably keep him thin like this :)
To address a few comments here regarding the design of the armour - I mostly based it on the designs from the film for Gil-Galads army, and then i just sorta chucked my own flavour into it :D
Remember, once the armour is done, I'm going to be mucking it up a bit - pulling plates lose and such, since he was in battle, after all ;)
LOL at Mangled Polys pic...
The reason I haven't updated yet today is because I've been doing the tedious task of my monthly site update :p
But now that's done, so expect an update in the next hour or so!! Just finishing off the feet....
Tommy Lee
01-14-2003, 02:02 AM
:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
3D Freak
01-14-2003, 02:04 AM
It's lookin' great Leigh :thumbsup: Can't wait to see it textured... with your mad texturing skills it should be awesome. The little buckles are a nice touch!!! :beer: 3DF.
leigh
01-14-2003, 02:25 AM
w00t!!! :D:D
And here it is - half an hour of modelling!
Behold, he has feet, and a tunic, and a hand which can grip it's weapon!
I'm not 100% happy with the feet yet though :shrug: They are supposed to be leather booties... perhaps I should add some armour plating to them...
Hehehe I also need to work on the face soon - at the moment, he is looking like some kind of Elven lovedoll!
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_11.jpg
Awesome style! I dig it :thumbsup:
But, the legs look way too short (especially for an elf!) and I'd like to see a close-up of the face :) . Keep it up, it's great !
Joel Hooks
01-14-2003, 02:30 AM
Is he pigeon-toed? Looks like they are point in to me.
"Elven lovedoll" :eek::D
Have you tried a long skirt?
http://raph.com/3dartists/artgallery/jonas_thornqvist1.jpg
Kinda the way Jonas used a long skirt, but more flowing and elvish.
Projectkmo
01-14-2003, 02:33 AM
mmmm Elven Love Doll...can I get that in a Female version??
seriously, that looks great Leigh.....do you plan to texture it?? I hope so.....
leigh
01-14-2003, 02:45 AM
m@ - here is another, larger pic, to show the proportions properly :)
Click the link because the image is a bit big (in size) to post in this thread (http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_12.jpg)
I think that they look right - remember, that skirt he is wearing creates the illusion that his legs are too short ;)
lowdown - yeah, you're right... I'd better fix that :p
Projectkmo - hehehehe... it's that gaping mouth... And yup, of course I'm going to texture it!!
blankslatejoe
01-14-2003, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by Leigh
Projectkmo - hehehehe... it's that gaping mouth... And yup, of course I'm going to texture it!! [/B]
That's horrible!! :eek: :p
blankslatejoe
01-14-2003, 03:31 AM
but the model itself looks kickbutt. :) good stuff, texture goddess!
Really good stuff so far Leigh, I can't wait to see more.
leigh
01-14-2003, 03:35 AM
:)
Actually, on a second look, I decided the legs were a little too short, so I brought them down a wee bit.
And I decided to jump onto the radiosity bandwagon! :D Here is a new render (toes fixed too)
This picture is perfect for a caption:
"And as the orc army rushed towards him, the archer realised he had forgotten his spear, bow and arrows at home"
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_13.jpg
And a close-up:
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_14.jpg
Mangled Poly
01-14-2003, 04:30 AM
Nice Looking Nice... blah blah blah youve heard it all so whats the point eh?
BlueCougar
01-14-2003, 04:35 AM
You could do a "quote contest" to that picture. "When he finally got home from the battle and opened the door to see his sweet wife, he finally realized why his commander sent him to the front lines in the first place!":scream: :scream: :scream:
:applause: :applause: :applause:
Thank you, thank you....
Dirk_P_Ho
01-14-2003, 04:49 AM
LOL, very nice BlueCougar :thumbsup:
nice work man...
scare alven heheh
i love that...
Projectkmo
01-14-2003, 05:25 AM
now I want to see a Spoof ..Spear Bow and Arrow.... Dont leave Home without them Commercial.....
leigh
01-14-2003, 08:02 AM
Hehehe yeah an ad would be brilliant! :D
Righto, before I head off to bed, here is another pic. It's basically my idea for a colour scheme - what do you guys think?? :)
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_15.jpg
erilaz
01-14-2003, 08:03 AM
Why is it you're just called a texturing goddess? Why not all-round-damn-good-cg goddess?:eek:
That's amazing. I can't wait to see what's in store for the texturing component!!
Mangled Poly
01-14-2003, 11:10 AM
Hmm for color sceme i think those 2 are over done... plus elfs in my opinion are more "magical colors" i think a really nice stainless silver for the armour... ansd a nice blue for the cloth would look beter!
maitor
01-14-2003, 11:13 AM
nice texuter...he looks really cool especially with his mouth open... keep updating..:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
BladeFX
01-14-2003, 11:17 AM
Look realy great!
I agree with Mangled Poly, a more silverish armour would be better. I'd even go for a blueish silver that glows just a little bit.
SPLENDID WORK......elegant..........powerfull.......this time u have done an amazing character....i only hope u will animate it.....in a fighting scene,with ur ork......amazing.:buttrock: :applause: :cool:
BlueCougar
01-14-2003, 02:55 PM
I agree with the others about the color scheme, only because its a wraith and the armor is "ancient". I would go with more shades of grey where the time has washed out the color and faded it. Plus its a ghost, even though the armor is real I think shades of greys including the metal. Then some faint blood stains on the armor from his own death as well as his latest victims would be cool too.:thumbsup:
3D Freak
01-14-2003, 03:12 PM
I have to agree with Mangled Poly & BladeFX on this one- I think a more "magical" dark silver color would look better than the gold- but that's just my opinion- either way I'm sure it'll be great!!!:beer: 3DF.
Big DaddyWayles
01-14-2003, 03:20 PM
Can you remove the lower leg armour, it really throws the dimensions out for me, and upsets the balance of the character or maybe shape it some more to better describe the underlying leg...
of course thats just MHO... :D
Chris
Clanger
01-14-2003, 03:23 PM
Unless he's a brand new Wraith, he'll need to look like he hasn't changed his clothes for a thousand years or two, I don't think any colour would survive.
coCoKNIght
01-14-2003, 04:06 PM
I would go for bright colours: white with a touch of green...
OR keep your colours and sourround him with fog in the final render. Jaqu'un son goût, thou :)
Tiburon3D
01-14-2003, 04:51 PM
Amazing work Leigh, as everyone else has stated.
I just have a few questions.
What kind of Elf was he? IE -- from Lothlorien or Rivendell?
I noticed in the movies that the warrior elves had more royal colors -- like deep blues/purples. Remember the Archers that fought at Helms Deep and in the Prologue? However since this is a new race of Middle Earth, I'm sure a Green clad Elf would be great!
Keep up the great work!
Jon
leigh
01-14-2003, 09:29 PM
Thanks a lot for all the suggestions :D
Here is another colour scheme - kinda like the Elves that rock up with Haldir at Helms Deep, as Tiburon3D and Mangled Poly suggested.
Remember, these are just REFERENCES - this is the way that the armour supposedly looked when it was new. Obviously, when I texture it, it will be old, damaged, rusted and covered in old stains and marks!
I just wanted to make a "perfect" Elf before wraithifying it ;)
Oh, and as you can see, I've made some slight structure changes (again) - widened the torso armour out a bit, and also lengthened his skirt, because it was even becoming confusing for me to look at :surprised
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_16.jpg
Carlocki
01-14-2003, 09:34 PM
Leigh (sorry haven't read lla thread ehmmm still improving my english i'm too slow)
do u think to make a scene with a single character or a sort of army ?
levin
01-14-2003, 09:37 PM
cool!but a nazgul wouldn't have as bright colours would it?
Haldir's ARMoR rocks!! (although he is kinda PRICK-ly)
don't they have capes or cloaks?
:buttrock:
Cedaie
01-14-2003, 09:44 PM
Very impressive work Leigh!
The top chest around his neck should also sort of Cave in to give the loose feel to the insides.
Awesome work anyway :thumbsup:
Cedaie
Joel Hooks
01-14-2003, 10:07 PM
It's just so bright for a spirit creature. I like the longer skirt, I think it would look cool longer and more flowing too, with decaying cloth and whatnot.
Here's my suggestion for the colours:
leigh
01-14-2003, 10:21 PM
Thanks people :)
Lowdown, how long do you think I should make the skirt? I'm considering making in full length...
Oh and as for the colours - they aren't going to be staying this way! This is how he looked before he went into battle :)
I wanted to make a perfect elf first, and then turn it into a wraith :)
I'm going to mess up the armour and clothing a lot - the armour plates are going to be damaged, and the cloth will be old and worn and stuff.
Those changes are coming soon!!! :bounce:
Mangled Poly
01-14-2003, 10:26 PM
leigh i agrre with lowdown i dont liek the purplish cloth as i originally said silver and like a blu navy blue color
Joel Hooks
01-14-2003, 10:26 PM
I think a full length skirt, with maybe even the slight hint of a train following behind would be pretty neat. I like the split, which of cours is functional for riding horses and such.
I didn't know you were going before and after. That's cool. I know you are gonna bust out with the kickass grunge maps, I just think the base colour would be more pleasant if it was nice and deep, without so much saturation.
You'll have to create his demon steed too!;)
Long skirt rocks!(your entire model too:buttrock: ) but I'm still not satisfied with the proportions... if you're sure about the body, I'd say the head is too big. I'm not saying that just to crit, but because it bugs me and I don't appreciate your model as much as I should.
Clanger
01-14-2003, 11:03 PM
Yep, Skirt to the floor like Matrix, all ripped up so you can still see the Boots.
BlueCougar
01-14-2003, 11:14 PM
Skirt long and tattered.
The head may look big cause the mouth is open, either that or reduce it by 5%.. Looks awesome, later!
leigh
01-14-2003, 11:14 PM
Okies, here is the skirt long! :D
m@. - you seriously think the heads too big?
:surprised Are you sure it's not the size of the helmet that's putting you off?
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_17.jpg
Joel Hooks
01-14-2003, 11:22 PM
I'd bring the saturation back a bit on the clothes, and match the leather of the shoes to that of the belt (that is some sort of fashion rule, no?). Will that armour around the waist facilitate riding?
leigh
01-14-2003, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by lowdown
Will that armour around the waist facilitate riding?
Probably not! LOL!
I'm going to leave saturation issues to when I actually start painting textures ;)
Okay, here is another pic. This time, I've made the waist armour sit higher. Comments? I think this one actually looks better...
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_18.jpg
anthony_rjs
01-15-2003, 12:25 AM
really nice so far, leigh :)
about the skirt, though. elves in the movies had that really nice, antique look, with the embroidered layered skirts. even the warriors did.
a good reference is the FOTR extended edition, one of the cd's has loads of the concept art. If you have it, have a look at the concepts for gil-galads army.
i've also attached a really quick, rough sketch-over of your elf skirts in photoshop to show you what i mean.
http://anthonyrjs.artshost.com/miscPics/elf.jpg
(edit: doesn't always seem to display, but its there if you copy/paste the link)
leigh
01-15-2003, 12:28 AM
That's a great idea, Anthony :thumbsup:
I actually originally got the idea for the armour from Gil-galads army anyway, just didn't really look at the bottom halves of their bodies :p
Going to do that now ;)
Mangled Poly
01-15-2003, 01:46 AM
less purple go for a navy blue on the cloth.. it will look beter
Great job leigh....I keep repeating myself...hmm...hehe
I do think the armor around the waist would restrict movement though wouldn't it....maybe not...very good job...keep it up:thumbsup:
leigh
01-15-2003, 03:08 AM
:D:D
Righto, played around with the blues a bit.. and added some more layers of skirt... more to come...
Remi, yeah I know, but ssshhhhhh don't tell anyone ;)
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_19.jpg
eirenicon
01-15-2003, 03:18 AM
Model's looking great! I don't care much for the color scheme, though, I'd prefer something more like this (hope you don't mind :D):
Mangled Poly
01-15-2003, 03:21 AM
the blue is to light i was thinking a more black-blue.. its dead isnt it?
leigh
01-15-2003, 03:24 AM
Hmmm... I rather like that, TimothyD :D:D
I also prefer those sort of colours, in a way they suit the elves a little more since they are a little more "arty" - particularly that aqua blue... :thumbsup:
Mangled Poly - yeah, it is dead, and when I do the actual textures, there will be many tones in it, but I want to avoid using very dark colours because it isn't an evil character.
leigh
01-15-2003, 04:12 AM
Okay, which one? :shrug:
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_20.jpg
anthony_rjs
01-15-2003, 04:42 AM
Maybe this is a stupid question, but after you start 'wraithifying' it and making everything look ancient and tattered. . . . wont the first one start to look like the second one anyway?
leigh
01-15-2003, 05:05 AM
Yeah, probably LOL
Perhaps I just wraithify the entire thing! :D:D
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/wraith_01.jpg
bentllama
01-15-2003, 05:33 AM
Originally posted by Leigh
Okay, which one? :shrug:
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_20.jpg
the one in the middle
Projectkmo
01-15-2003, 05:51 AM
well, you know me... I gotta go with the one n the left just cause of the Blow Up Doll mouth....but I like the right one color wise. = )
very awesome work!! Gonna be realy cool to see those magic leigh textures on it!
Joel Hooks
01-15-2003, 06:16 AM
the desaturated side! ;)
That Xray is sweet. That a LW thing?
Dirk_P_Ho
01-15-2003, 06:29 AM
I like the right one better, colour-wise at least. The blue-grey one.
BlueCougar
01-15-2003, 06:31 AM
Either is fine...I like the additional layer.:applause:
coCoKNIght
01-15-2003, 10:55 AM
Yeah it looks better, but it was already very good.... ;)
Oh, wait, there is even another page full of posts... you're gonna break all records :)
Personally I like the one on the right better but both are fine.
I like the ghosty render you did very much! :thumbsup: :wip:
Faraguay
01-15-2003, 11:11 AM
Wow! You're fast!!!! If you decide to do it ghosty (very cool looking) you've almost finished! Incredible.
But I know you're going to enjoy texturing it so... I preffer the right color scheme, but I would suggest you to make the armor less dark. I don't know, more white it will give her a friendly aspect... I'm not sure. just wondering.
Anyway, you're a machine... keep it up.
Wow Leigh!! :eek: You are amazingly fast! I love the ghostly render and out the colored ones, I like the one on the left.
dark_lotus
01-15-2003, 02:14 PM
:eek: Leigh!! How can I compete with you now!!!
I'm going to my post and cry.:cry::cry::cry:
Grugi
01-15-2003, 04:57 PM
looks very nice :-)
but I don´t like the proportions .. the legs seems to be a bit too long and the upper-body is still too thin .. especially the back of the torso have to be much wider!!
I love that armour. You rock Leigh :bounce:
Tommy Lee
01-15-2003, 05:02 PM
The right one!!!!!For sure.. :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Tiburon3D
01-15-2003, 06:27 PM
I like the left one better, but maybe have one of the fabric layers a darker navy blue to make the image richer.
Looking forward to seeing the war-torn/wraith elf!
fellah
01-15-2003, 07:44 PM
I agree with what m@ said about the head, it would look better if it where a bit smaller. it would make him look stronger and more powerful. the hand looks a bit to thin to, more flesh there would be cool, warriors have strong hands, no? maybe not elven wraiths, I'm not an expert :)
small things.. nonetheless, what I'm really looking forward is the texturing stage. there I'm sure I'll learn a few things from you! :)
oh and sorry if I repeated someone/something. the thread is just to huge to read through! :)
nice to see you in leigh, sorry for not saying it earlier. to many entries to keep track on.
looking forward to more goodies :)
take care
fleedawg
01-15-2003, 07:48 PM
Leigh, your Wraith is amazing, even before you've textured it. Since you're a goddess, can I worship you now? :bowdown:
Getting better and better:buttrock: ... I'll vote for the desaturated one..
I'm glad that fellah sees the same thing that me about the head (but I don't agree with him for the hands, slender hands are just right for an elf, even more if he's a wraith :) )...I'm not the only one.. . try and post a render with a slightly smaller head, 95% or something like that.
Also, I like the new belt position.:thumbsup:
That Adrian Guy
01-15-2003, 08:24 PM
dang it! I'll be the bad guy... which sucks because I think this model rrrrules.
The hands look really boxy still, they could use some refining. The way the fingers bend is still a bit sharp as well (eek, Leigh's gonna hate me)
The cloth/dress looks good, but the way it puffs out at the knee area is kind of akward. It makes his upper torso look weak. *personally* (gulp) so I think you should widen the shoulders to give a more masculine look.
I'm really gonna stop talkin now!:D
(hides back under a rock)
leigh
01-15-2003, 11:31 PM
Thanks so much for all the comments, everybody - you all rock! :xtreme:
Not sure if I will have an update today, because I am working on my book :sad:
Just to reply to comments...
Faraguay - by the time the textures are done, the armour will be pretty old and discoloured anyway ;)
Grugi - I intentionally distorted some of the proportions to make him appear less human. Especially with the leg length - because he's an elf, I though it might be cool to emphasise his height be lengthening his legs. He is 1.8 metres tall.
fellah - I'll try making the head a wee bit smaller, and see how it looks ;) Thanks!
m@. - smaller head coming soon ;) And yeah, I also prefer the new belt position :)
That Adrian Guy - THANKS!! Thank you VERY much for that - I was just waiting for someone to mention the crappy hands! :D I hate the way they look! I've been meaning to tweak them, but just haven't gotten around to it! They are so damn boxy that I've just being doing my best to ignore them up until now hehehehehe...
As for the skirt - I kinda made it a bit puffy to imply some kind of movement... perhaps I should tweak it though.... I'll also bring the shoulders out a bit - thanks again for your suggestions :thumbsup: Very appreciated!
To everyone else - thanks so much for all the kind comments, there are too many to reply to individually! I'll be going with the colour scheme on the right then!
mlabrams
01-16-2003, 12:44 AM
wow look grgeat leigh!!
one thing ive allways noticed about you, you take people suggestions and listen to there ideas, thats a great thing to posses,
cant wait to see this things final!
arjun
01-16-2003, 01:12 AM
Hm. Which thread to read? 1 page, 2 page, 1 page, 12 pages. :D
You make me so jealous. From you're first armor post, I felt like inflicting self-harm. Please don't call the cops this was a joke> I repeat, this was a joke. (you have to be careful if you live in the US)
Anyways, lookin smooth. I wish I could model like that. Wait a second. I wish I could model at all...
leigh
01-16-2003, 01:41 AM
mlabrams - Thanks! And yes, any person who does not heed the useful advice of others is a stubborn fool ;) I always need suggestions, or else I wouldn't be posting!
arjun - you are too kind :blush: And what's this "I wish I could model" crap??!! - go get in there and get some polys into place dammnit!!!
Anyhoo, here's another render... Bigger shoulders, smaller head... I actually also lowered the helmet so that it fits more snugly onto the head.
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/LOTR_WIP_armour_21.jpg
Mangled Poly
01-16-2003, 02:03 AM
Lookin Awesome!
Joel Hooks
01-16-2003, 02:13 AM
I'd unify all the leather pieces - if you hadn't planned to already anyway.
I think all the subtle changes have really shaped this guy.
dmonk
01-16-2003, 02:17 AM
Love the armor! Is it going to stay ultra shiny like that though?
Good work Leigh:thumbsup:
eirenicon
01-16-2003, 03:34 AM
So tell us, Leigh, just how exactly that helmet comes on and off. Is it hinged at the back, or do they forge it already on his head? :p
This is getting better every post, but that helmet is really bothering me. It just doesn't look like it's possible to put it on/take it off.
Hey, Leigh - being 'wraithified' is guaranteed to put any elf off his silly prancing lark... ;)
You've done a fancy job on the armour and skirt. Are you going to give your elfy-wraith a magic sword to swing?
:)
Facial Deluxe
01-16-2003, 08:00 AM
Great job Leigh :)
-=InQ=-
01-16-2003, 09:18 AM
wow! modelling is absolutely awsome! I can't imaging myself what textures shall look like :thumbsup:
Unfortunately, the armour is practically useless, cause it's kinda short and leaves a lot of vitally important organs open (stomach, neck etc.) I'm not surprised he became a wraith :)
But, it's a fantasy after all, it must look great foremost.
Good luck!
levin
01-16-2003, 09:59 AM
great job! it's nice to see the mods come and join.
i'll bet you're itching to texture it.
is that your rigging pose? maybe the arms are too short.. or its just the foreshortening,prolly
dont you want to give it a bow? a nazgul with a bow... and ethereal arrows...that'd be cool. and the gil-galad's daggers are somewhat a bit longer i believe...
dmonk: don't you know leigh that much? she hates clean shiny things... those plates are gonna get grimy and greasy, just wait ;)
Mentat7
01-16-2003, 05:31 PM
That is one mighty fine looking set of armor! Can't wait to see it in all its eerieness!! :bounce:
That Adrian Guy
01-17-2003, 03:07 AM
isn't it eerie going this long with out an update?
leigh
01-17-2003, 10:37 PM
Hey everyone, thanks so much again for all the suggestions and kind comments :)
Sorry there hasn't been an update for a few days, but I have been really busy with my book. Hopefully I will have time for another update before the end of the weekend :D
In the meantime, I hope that everyone is having fun with their own entries - looking through all the threads here, it certainly looks like everyone is! Keep up the great work everyone, this is turning out to be an awesome challenge!
No updates? ........:hmm: ..............ok ok...u have done a very cool work.U are so quick!! I must to sey that ur character is one of the most " LOTR like" here!...is cool to see something that u can imagine in the movie! COOL AGAIN!:cool:
Quit making the rest of us look bad...hehe guess that's sort of the point though...great job Leigh...you're not done yet are you...you better not be...or...or...ah nevermind...great work:thumbsup:
leigh
01-18-2003, 04:22 AM
Thanks OZ and Remi :)
Just a bit too busy with my book, and with chatting on CG Talk on IRC to work on this at the moment :P
Anyhoo, thought I'd jump on the GI bandwagon and show a render of the model as it stands:
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/site_images/gallery/elf_wip/elf_GI_01.jpg
Joril
01-18-2003, 04:49 AM
hey, that render turned out quite alright :)
SirManfred
01-18-2003, 05:21 AM
Looking good, Leigh... as usual ;)
Men han är lite för smal tror jag.
Anyways, keep it up! Its gonna be awsome when you texture it! :D:D
Hurry, hurry, hurry! :bounce: :bounce:
Fantastic job so far Leigh. I would love to see a small video tut on how you model poly by poly. I know that you are really busy at the moment, but once you have some time, could you make a small tut on modeling something that won't take too long to make, yet complex enough to require your method of modeling?
I can't wait to see how your wraith will turn out.
Dirk_P_Ho
01-18-2003, 05:49 AM
Hey Leigh, would it be alright if I use your helmet as a reference and incorporate it as a bit of armor on my characters contraption??? like the Gobutecs (My race) stole it from an elven wraith?
leigh
01-18-2003, 06:02 AM
Joril - yup! :D
Sir_Manfred - still too thin?? :surprised But he's an elf!! :cry:
mohh - yeah, I'd love to do a video tutorial some time... I'll see when I can fit it into my schedule ;) Thanks for the compliment :)
Dirk_P_Ho - yeah go ahead! :D I don't mind at all! If you want, I can send you the reference pics I used to model it.
Dirk_P_Ho
01-18-2003, 06:07 AM
That would be great Leigh!, actually i've modelled it a bit but the mesh is a little wonky. but it sure wouldnt hurt to have more refrence, especially since its just a 3/4 view of yours that ive gone off of..
Cikala
01-18-2003, 06:08 AM
WOW!
leigh
01-18-2003, 06:18 AM
Dirk - check your email ;)
Cikala - thanks :D
BlueCougar
01-18-2003, 08:18 AM
Looks awesome, can't wait til you Wraithify it. What server and channel is the IRC CGTalk on?
dark_lotus
01-18-2003, 04:14 PM
Leigh, its just... breathtaking. :bowdown:
Great Job! Hope he makes an appearance in your book :D
One thing, the helmet looks like its squashing the head. Like its been crushed in around the head.
Oh and can I steal some reference too? :bowdown:
Mentat7
01-18-2003, 04:35 PM
Looking really great Leigh!! Can't wait to see what you do to it when you "age" it and give it that eerie ghostly look.:bounce:
whooo bandwagons rule:)
and just to think too...you once told me you should start texturing befor you finish the model:shame:
anyways its looking awsome both model and texture:)
and a plug:)
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36555
leigh
01-20-2003, 07:15 AM
Righto, after about 8 hours of UV editing, I have an update!
Tadaaaaa!!
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/elf_torso_01.jpg
BlueCougar - Thanks! The CG Talk IRC channel is #cgtalk on irc.freenode.net - beware though, it's VERY addictive!! :)
dark_lotus - thanks, as always :D Actually, the helmet fits perfectly on the head, even though it doesn't look like it ;)
Mentat7 - thanks!! :D
Chi - I hadn't even started texturing it there :surprised hehehe... Thanks hehehehe :p
urgaffel
01-20-2003, 07:18 AM
Now we're talking. Give me more... MOOOORE!!!! :buttrock:
Great job :D
Cikala
01-20-2003, 07:19 AM
WOW!
:drool: :drool: :drool:
That is so good looking.
derelict
01-20-2003, 07:23 AM
what can i say....
you are not human!! :)
that is humanly impossible that u did it all just by texturing alone!!!
goddess it is!! :)
Fetus23
01-20-2003, 07:30 AM
Nice start on the texturing Leigh!! :bounce:
Waiting for more!! :wip: :wip:
Have you plans for a final scene with a background?
:beer:
fetus
smfjersey
01-20-2003, 07:36 AM
I'm completely blown away.
pigwater
01-20-2003, 07:45 AM
OMG ..leigh, i've been hangin back watchin this...but i gotta speak up now...wow:eek:
you should write a book in between:) (i know)
love how the texture matches up on the seperate folds:applause:
dies-irae
01-20-2003, 07:51 AM
LEIGH, you just love to see us with our jaws hangin there with a really dumb expression on our faces...
I am awestruck, as always, by your texturing skills!
you truly are the texturing goddess!!
leigh
01-20-2003, 08:06 AM
Thanks for the kind comments! :D
urgaffel, Cikala, Derelict, smfjersey, pigwater, dies-irae - thank you very much for your very kind comments :)
Fetus - no plans yet for a background... I'd better start thinking of one though!! Hehehe
Okay, I had this idea - what if, when the armour had originally been made, the Elven smith had put a thin layer of gold into the patterned inlays - since Elves are very artistic, it seems like the kind of thing they would do.
Because gold doesn't rust, it would just kinda flake off over the years, and I thought that it might be kinda nice to have some flecks of gold still remaining here and there in the inlays... what do you guys think? Gold or no gold? Or perhaps not gold, but mother-of-pearl, or something like that?
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/elf_torso_02.jpg
ChickenPixel
01-20-2003, 08:09 AM
yes yes!
Superior work!
-Chickenpixel
Facial Deluxe
01-20-2003, 08:15 AM
Cool Leigh:) Do you mean you edited it afterward ? Aaagh (if so)
Yeah Leigh yeah:buttrock:
Gold, i think gold will really do it. Had it been more of an asian topic i would have said mother of pearl but elfs would be gold.
Can the rings be gold too? maybe a bit eroded or with moss?
Sweet.
rolhionjs
01-20-2003, 09:12 AM
wow !! :surprised Looks so real !! So cool Texturing !!! Sculptures are awesome !!! Keep going !
pigwater
01-20-2003, 09:21 AM
go for the gold!!:xtreme:
Jhonus
01-20-2003, 09:26 AM
gosh Leigh poo, thats rather good :eek:
i really dig the gold... (ooh, pun)... 1 star for you!
maitor
01-20-2003, 09:32 AM
VERY VERY VERY very very very 1000 * VERY nice....:surprised
XCELLENT Leigh...Keep going :buttrock: :buttrock:
SheepFactory
01-20-2003, 09:32 AM
Leigh you are insane! :bowdown:
Thats one of the best textured armors ever.
levin
01-20-2003, 09:35 AM
holy Jesus.
:bounce:
show us the maps... this arcane knowledge is what i seek!!!!!
:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
Truely a texturing goddess =)
Virtuoso
01-20-2003, 09:56 AM
Beautifully done Leigh..........:love:
I cannot say how much intricate details mean to me personally. Modeling,texturing,ideas with original concepts are all very important respectively but...............Going that extra mile as you have with the armor is quite impressive. I am a big fan of the scroll type patterns on objects. It's that kind of depth that take anything into the next level as you have with your armor.
It's fun to see you progress,and it will continue to be so.......Fine,fine job.:thumbsup: :applause:
nadeemmar
01-20-2003, 10:11 AM
greaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat:eek: :eek:
love the textures :buttrock: :buttrock:
I know you were good, but here you've surpassed you! that's fantastic... Can't wait to see the whole model textured... You deserve your nickname!
iNFERNiS
01-20-2003, 12:33 PM
Texturing Goddess?!
Texturing AND modeling Godess!!!
Damn those textures are great, looking at it makes me wanne reach out and feel it!! :applause:
10/10
You got my vote!! :beer:
Iguiniz.X.
01-20-2003, 12:53 PM
This is truely an suprior texture.....8 hours you say.....:buttrock:
I never had thought the armor would fit this well to the character.
Since the character has an wisp body and is realy acient, the worn out armor with rust and also some places were gold still remains.
Trully excelent.
When I take a look back at the background it is said that he/ she is killed by the enemy long ago.
I sudgest you inflict some damage to the armor like a missing ring,
rings that ain't complety round or a hole were the killing strike -of an arrow, for example- had struck.
And some part of th armor that have been broken of.
:applause:
I knew you van texture, know I know it betterbut I'm really anctious to see how you will bring the wisp like body in exprecion
:wavey:
dur23
01-20-2003, 03:12 PM
Shiet! No wonder your the texturing godess and you have nearly 13000 views to your thread. Absolutely wonderful job Leigh. Can't wait to see the finished work.
Again.....DAAAAAAAAAMN!
:airguitar
Joril
01-20-2003, 03:20 PM
Yea to the gold.
Amazing job! :D:thumbsup:
KingMob
01-20-2003, 04:43 PM
did you even go to sleep last night?!
great great work...reminds me of some old horse saddles we have, really worn in and bad ass.
great work, as usual!
:eek:
coCoKNIght
01-20-2003, 05:38 PM
Gold or not gold?!?! :insane:
Even if it would be "only" the rust it would look so awesomely cool!!.... :love:
Dreamwave
01-20-2003, 06:10 PM
This is the first time I'm glad Haldir died in The Two Towers, otherwise it wouldn't be possible to have an elvenWRAITH ;) :D
hehe awsome job, Tolkien would be proud of you :thumbsup:
blankslatejoe
01-20-2003, 07:41 PM
wow. leigh, you are seriously one of my heroes. Is there a thread somewhere where you discuss your book? I'd like to get a scoop on what you'll be covering? Just texturing, or modeling too? It'd be nice to have a texturing book out there to rival that new riders one.
azazel
01-20-2003, 09:23 PM
That's great.... too match something that good... no easy way ;)
:thumbsup:
BlueCougar
01-20-2003, 11:26 PM
:thumbsup: :bowdown:
...say no more....
freerider
01-21-2003, 03:36 AM
Hi !
I've been mostly lurking for a while, but had to post when I noticed this excellent thread.
That is truly great work, Leigh! I'm blown away! I thought I'd just have a quick look through, but ended up reading every single post in this thread during the last few hours. It's been great fun following your progress ! I'm eagerly looking forward to seeing it receive the final deadly touches by the texturing goodess :)
leigh
01-21-2003, 05:46 AM
Wow, I am so very touched by all the amazing kind comments posted by everyone! There are just too many too respond to everyone individually, but I want you all to know that I appreciate everything that every one of you has said :)
I am overwhelmed by all the support! :wavey:
Well, after FAR too much socialising in the last 24 hours (especially on that very addictive CG Talk IRC channel - you guys ROCK!!), I finally got some more work done! Here are some pics:
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/elf_torso_03.jpg
And another view...
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/elf_torso_04.jpg
As you can see, I've started adding actual damage to the armour too.
And many people have asked to see what my UV map for the torso armour plates looks like - well, here below is the result of many hours of carefully pushing points! :D
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/elf_armour_UV.jpg
As for the actual image maps, I'll start posting them up onto my site within the next few days so that people can have a look at them. I'll let you know when they are up! :)
One more render, a closeup:
http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/elf_torso_05.jpg
Mangled Poly
01-21-2003, 05:54 AM
incredable!
blankslatejoe
01-21-2003, 06:05 AM
leigh you seriously are becoming one of my heroes. Thank you so much for sharing your talent and knowledge with us.
killahsin
01-21-2003, 06:16 AM
ouch that texture is dangerous
vertex
01-21-2003, 09:20 AM
I passed out after seeing your texturing over the weekend, had to post a response before I do it again. unf$*!king believable. You have knocked one clear out of the park.
Did I say amazing, super, wonderful. come on get you maps out show us mortals a glimpse of your worldly goods, up close and personal like, we won't tell anyone, honest . :thumbsup:
Vertex
Hexodam
01-21-2003, 09:32 AM
fscking amazing texture:eek:
you truly live up to your name
.overflowed
01-21-2003, 10:13 AM
At first when I saw model I thought it's goog but nothing special. But with such textures it rocks :)
Very good job.
Equinoxx
01-21-2003, 10:17 AM
poppy, that's looking seriously wicked girl :buttrock:
i was thinking, perhaps make the 'not-so-rusted' parts of metal more like brushed metal . . . might perhaps fix the 'leatherproblem we talked about'
rolhionjs
01-21-2003, 12:34 PM
pfiouu.... wow... eek... heu.... the greatest armor i've seen... You're THE texturing Godess... :eek:
earthworm
01-21-2003, 01:04 PM
*worships*:drool:
rockrat
01-21-2003, 01:15 PM
As usual, amazing texturing, but isn't the word 'Character' in the title of this challenge? ;)
Shall I duck?
3D Freak
01-21-2003, 02:53 PM
:surprised ........WOW!!!.......:drool: ..........:bowdown:
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