Races of Middle Earth - character - Leigh

[Iguiniz.X.]

:buttrock: Good, really good damage...it also gives the feeeling it was inflicted long ago and has been ruting for a while.:wip:

[BlueCougar]

Will you marry me and do all my texturing for me? Hehe...I'll even do the dishes..hehe...

This is awesome Leigh! I know what you mean about IRC, it can suck you in pretty quickly! Especially when the alternative is pushing around points on a UV map!:thumbsup: I can't wait to see how the drapery looks.

[leigh]

Wow :surprised
Thanks for all the replies :blush:

Expect an update at some point in the next few hours!! :D:D

Thanks so much again for all the amazing support and wonderful comments - it's all so encouraging!!

[Tommy Lee]

Oh my f*****g god... Thats incredible.:eek:

Ya have really fantstic texture skillz.
Oh man...:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Cheerz dudette

Tommy lee

[Az0r]

Nothing inspires me more than 3D work of this level

[knifejuggler]

just to add to the rest... WOW!!!!! I came here from another forum so I could have a go at some competitions & having read this thread from start to finish I feel so far out of my depth that i need scuba gear! Leigh, you are my idol, I worship the ground you hover above! :love:

One small point (hope you don't mind) but wouldn't the areas around the damage (I'm looking mainly at the part of the armour that has 'snapped') be more rusty than the rest?

Just a thought, maybe wrong, after all I am but a novice.

[show]

thats a good point knifejuggler, leigh listen to the man :P

[mohh]

WOW!!!! *jaw hits the desk*:eek: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :eek:

[smfjersey]

Hey Leigh, Have you seen this?

http://www.alleycatscratch.com/lotr/Exhibit/ROM/ArmorNMore.htm

[leigh]

Thanks again for all the overwhelming support :D

Tommy Lee - thanks! Your entry is absolutely bloody amazing too!! So it's a big compliment coming from you!!

Az0r - thanks a lot. Knowing that my work has inspired someone is a great feeling - makes me all warm and fuzzy inside :D

Knifejuggler & show - you're right about that part being more rusty! I'll add some more rust to it right away ;)

mohh - get your jaw off you desk, and start an entry as well, man!!

smfjersey - those pics are amazing :drool: Thanks for the link!!

Okies, lil update!

http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/elf_torso_06.jpg

and....

http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/elf_helmet_01.jpg

More details (inlays, I mean) still to come on the helmet!

[KingMob]

nice rusted heml..I think it needs some trim or something to liven it up.

THo with a wraith you might not want to liven it up..

:bounce: great work!

[BlueCougar]

I like the look of the helm, are the enlays like the breastplate?

[leigh]

Thanks guys :)

King - get back to your rock ent before I whip you! And yeah, I will be adding more trim once I've had a nice sleep :)

Cougar - thanks! The trim on the helmet is similar to that on the torso armour, but it's a different pattern. I'm still going to be adding more trim to the bottom edges, and also the nosepiece later :)

[KingMob]

sleep is for the weak...WORK WORK WORK :wip:

;)

[Mangled Poly]

is there some thing i can say that would mean more then breathtaking id so thats what this is :)

[Rye]

Hey Leigh, the torso of this armor is so awesome, good job : ). I think the trim of the <insert name of armor piece here> on the torso looks funny for some reason though. The part that has the gold inlay on it has such a different look. Granted it may be a different material that borders it, but it looks a bit like...orange plastic with black spots painted on it.

The gold inlay is a nice touch, but in some pics you cant even see it. Maybe thats intentional, but I think it would be nice if it were just a little more apparent.

Keep going, it looks good : )

[Per-Anders]

what the helmet needs is some way for the crown to fasten to it... unless it's been made all one peice. just needs to be made out of a few peices as these things most often are. once it's got that it should look the part, maybe teh edges could be sharper too. but htis is finnickety really, great job, keep going :)

[blankslatejoe]

come on liegh, these are wonderful of course, but we REALLLLLLLLY want to see some flat maps. I really am eager to see how everything looks at the "painting" stage. :):):)

Otherwise, you're AMAZING, as always!

[Jhonus]

i cant see the gold.... did you remove it, or is it just hard to see from far away?

either way it shoudl be strengthened so you can see it from far away.... a littel splash of colour amongst all that rust would go a long way!

goooOOOOoooo LEIGH! (cheerleader chant)

[Virtuoso]

I like the fact that you have the inlays not sooooo very apparant.It looks more realistic this way.If they were made more intense or visible they would scream look at me look at me I am sooo un-natural,they would look like contrived pieces of fake articles. Just put there for that added detailed look for modeling purposes and not as they would look in the Real World or Middle Earth. :)

What do you think of a colorful plume of feathers.....Well actually the remnants of what was once a color plume of feathers. Just a thought for something more......:)

Keep going,it's all very well done and fun to see develope.:thumbsup: :beer:

[mohh]

mohh - get your jaw off you desk, and start an entry as well, man!!
I wish I had the time to even attempt a project like this. Right now, my wife is due to have my third child any day now and that would just put everything in the back burner for a while. I'm content with cheering you on from the sidelines. You are doing an awesome job; you truly are amazing and have some mad skills! :xtreme:

[Az0r]

Hehe, your welcome leigh :)

[azazel]

Yeah, what happened to the gold? It added even more complexity to it. And helmet could use some gold or color anyway. Great :drool: :love:

[urgaffel]

I have a crit on the modeling of the helmet. It looks too soft. The corners are rounded. I know, a helmet wouldn't have sharpedges all over (ouch when wearing it) but still. And you can't blame on wear and tear, since the rest of the armor has a few sharp corners :)

Btw, I'm writing a looong mail for you. I'll send it tonight! If I can finish it in time ;)

[blankslatejoe]

no update today? so sad. Thats ok, I know you work hard leigh! I'll be patient!

[panta]

really awesom work :beer: :buttrock:

but i agree with urgaffel about the helmet... to soft... and just another minor critique... maybe too much dirty and rusted...

how many battles had he to fight? and if he's still alive... he should have enough money to buy new armour and helmet ;)

great anyway! :thumbsup:

[OZ]

The armor is amazing.....the level of detail is amazing!! The sword slash is the kind of touch that makes it alive!......ur best work ever about challenges!:applause: :applause: :applause:

[HBlaauw]

Whoo-hoo! Nice one Leigh!
I don't know how you do it, but
keep doing it! Looks great!

:bounce:

Shot

Hennie

[SirManfred]

Yaargh! Its absolutley beautiful!
Please! Teach me how to paint textures like that?

Anyways, that stuff sure does buttrock! :buttrock:

[knifejuggler]

Leigh, we're all drooling in anticipation of the next update!! :bounce:

Sir_Manfred: have you read Leigh's GREAT Texturing Workshop over in the Texturing & Surfacing forum??

[eirenicon]

Your textures are amazing, although I'd add a bit more gilt. I love the helmet, very Greek :)

[BlueCougar]

yeah...mumble mumble...great work....mumble mumble.....huh, what? AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! CRASH!! OOF!!! NOOOOOOO!! CRASH!! AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!


MONKEYS!!!

[blankslatejoe]

huh?


Hey you're from roanoke! A lot of people here at VCU are from thereabouts.

[blankslatejoe]

naturally, the fact that youre from roanoake explains the monkeys too. Of course.

[Willem]

And ofcourse the textures are great!

Willem

[El Tonio]

Hi Leigh,

Let me be the "bollock in the soup" (french expression), by criticizing when everybody's congratulate...

I think your helmet has a problem . Imo, you should build it the same way you did with the rest of the armor : with several pieces attached together .

With "medieval" building constraints, the only way of making a one-piece helmet like yours would be to hammer a metal sheet until it get rounded :wip: , but it would then imply that the thickness of it remains almost the same all along .
I think right now it looks really too "modern", like coming out from a factory/plastic mold .

I really (really really) believe it would look ten times better with a several pieces approch .

Your textures look gorgeous so far !! :applause:

Waiting as everybody for the next wip .
Keep it the good work ! :buttrock:

[AgentX]

Yeah Leigh, the armor is amazing! I love the detail in it, and the textures are awesome. But i have to agree with El Tonio, that the helmet looks kinda out of place. I agree it prolly would look better in multiple pieces. But other than that it looks great! I can't wait to see more.

[Fitharn]

:bounce: OMG Leigh you made me register on this forum just to reply on this thread.

It's absolutely amazing what you made here, both model- and texture wise. I was working on such a helmet from the LotR prologue as well, but I don't think I'll ever dare to work on it again after seeiing this.

Is there any chance you're going to document how you made this piece of art step by step? :drool:

[KingMob]

Hey fit, welcome to the forums, have you checked out leighs tutorials on trexturing and such?

if not they are definetly worth a look (texturing for dummies in the texturing and surfacing area of cgtalk.com)

DOn't let the name fool you, some really wonderfull tips on texture creation in there.


and welcome!

[SirManfred]

knifejuggler: I have NOW :D

[asela]

amazing texturing.

asela

[sad]

the texturing goddess. yes it is so true!
the metal-plates are absolutely photoreal. very inspiring, thank you!

[SirManfred]

:bounce: :bounce: Update, update, update! :bounce: :bounce:

[BiTMAP]

why not have a hood like human wraiths ?

[unexit]

Hmm..... girl..... better than...... me? Im sorry, ALOT better! HEHEHE
Let me just say, i never get tired of looking at your work.

I would tell you to keep it up, but I'm sure you willl anyway.

ROCK!

[Slot]

In the middle of so much posts it is useless to say how beatyfull is your work, specially your texturing work, but I just can't help myself. It is amazing to see how you develop your character.

Keep up.

[leigh]

Thanks so much for all the support, comments and, most importantly crits and suggestions everyone! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I am sorry that there has not been an update in a while, but I've been running around like a mad thing doing lots of other stuff :sad:

I will hopefully have an update in the next day or so....

[KingMob]

*cough* chatting *cough*

[Jhonus]

<krugar>cgbot: who is leigh?
<cgbot>leigh is a girl

[blankslatejoe]

what girl?

girl with the power.

what power?

power of the voodoo.

Who do?

You do.

I what?

Remind me of the babe.





I don't know why I thought of that right now. they're probably not even the right lyrics... but something about that last post made me think of that song thing....

[TheWraith]

labrynth or however u spell it RULES!

[erilaz]

This is what I love about Leigh's thread. It has her amazing artwork, but it also rambles on with odd conversation just like #cgtalk. Brilliant.:D

[CGmonkey]

dudeguy - Someone who dares challenge Leigh with constructive critism.. *step backs* You are brave. :p Hehe anyway, some things you question answers themself. She works professionally with textures dude! :> The way she wants it is the way it will be :p

I love it though.. ;)

[Snakeman]

well i kindof have to agree with dudeguy....looking at the overall texture of the top and the bottom part of the armor the rust looks more like dirty camo than rust.....its hard to put my finger on it..........there's no rhyme or reason as to where the rust is occurring


still awesome tho :beer:

[Remi]

The only thing I find disturbing is the helm...if you look at the body armor...the rust is in where rust would be...seems,edges,ect...i'm also assuming that this is just a base color....if you've seen any of leighs prior work, you should know that it will look wonderful...great job leigh...now get your ass working...haven't seen an update for a while now...:thumbsup: :wip: :surprised

[Nath]

Those textures are amazing.

[BiTMAP]

I actualy dislike the shape of the helm and think it needs to be multi parts, and I can't wait to see how she does the tatterd garments... But i still vote for hood!

[Carina]

Okay, first of all, since I just viewed this thread for the first time, I have to admit I haven't read all the posts in it (*ducks*)

It's looking great, and I'm seriously looking forward to see how the cloth is goign to turn out textured!

Oh, and I like the lanky look of him as well, although I kind of agree that the helmet is probably the week part of the model, it doesn't really flow with the style of his breast plates and stuff..

[leigh]

I fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinaly have time for an update! :bounce:

Sorry it's been ages, but I have been writing :)

Thanks for all the comments, support, crits, and suggestions! :thumbsup: There are waaaayyy too many to respond to individually (again), so I can't reply to everyone, but I do want to address some points made by people :) :

- the helmet is being altered. It's not finshed yet, but will be soon. I'm busy seperating all the pieces and as soon as I have something looking good, I'll post it.

- There is still a cloack and hood to come.

- I have started on the clothes, but I hate the way they look at the moment, so I am not posting a render yet.

- dudeguy - thanks for the crits and suggestions :thumbsup: I mentioned somewhere earlier that the spec maps are still a bit rough, which is why there isn't too much differentiation between the rusted and non-rusted bits. I'll be dealing with that now.
As for the placement of the rust, I'm a big believer of placing details correctly, and with this, I gave long, hard thought to the placement of the rust, and in the end, decided that an all-over kind of almost-random placement suited it.
As for the designs, nope, I didn't make them from scratch. They came from fonts which I altered ;)
Dirt still to come!

Back to business :wip:

Here is a new render. I've done the gauntlets now, and as you can see I've been playing with the colours in the armour a bit - particularly in the rust areas.

http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/elf_torso_07.jpg

[Fede]

Go GIRRRRRRRRRLLLLLLLLLL:applause: :bounce: :beer:

Looking fantastic, absolutely love it.

but not such a long delay this time Leigh, ok?

lata

[lildragon]

AH DAMNIT LEIGH! you had to go and break the armor :annoyed: damn damn damn, now it looks to authetic :cry: grrrrrr.

This is pratically the best texturing job I've seen you do to date, it makes all your other work whimper, I mean you went all out here. Its frickin STELLAR GIRL! sheesh :argh:

salud

[ChickenPixel]

:bowdown: I M P R E S S I V E ! :bowdown:

Texturing was perfect, but your playing with the colours made it perfect x 10 !

Cant wait to see this finished...

-chickenpixel

[Virtuoso]

Once again I will say you are doing a wonderful job Leigh,corrosion is beautiful is'nt it.:thumbsup: Also the modeling I would like to add is smooth and spot on.Keep going,you are creating a beautiful piece of art.:beer:

[mv]

Excellent work Leigh:thumbsup: I like how the metal is more clean in the broken zones. I think you could do it even more, on the edges of the plates.

[Chrobry]

:eek: :buttrock:
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT IS THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I went through this thread and read most of the posts, and I'm shocked. Who dares to point some troubles with this texturing? I saw works of people that have any doubts about god-like texturing from Leigh and they match 0,00001% of Leigh's skills.

Leigh: I think the good advise from members is welcomed, but critics - how come?????. I haven't seen anything like this from a very long time, mayby besides Markus' Mercedes. Where can I buy you books and video tuts??

I would say it in Polish : KUUUUURRRRWAAAAAAA !!!!! Zajebiste

[rolhionjs]

Well, i would maybe repeat what the others say... but your texturing work is really impressive ! :surprised :eek:

No doubt your Elf is ready to enter the real Middle Earth world with such realism ! :) Keep going Texturing goddess !

[CGmonkey]

Oh my god Leigh! That is the most awesome texture(s) I've seen in months!!

[dmonk]

I must say that that armor is kick ass. Something about the arm bothers me but I dont think it matters because its a wraith.

Great stuff leigh cant wait to see more.

[SEL]

Hey Leigh,

Been watching your thread for awile now to see where you were going with it. Just like to say great job texturing Goddess, the textures are wonderful on the armor, so I wont critique that. I think your at a stage that you should really go all out on the modeling of the body of this character. Get those human anatomy books out and use em for reference for this piece, the way its coming out, beautiful btw! I just want to see the body proportionate and the muscularature right on with the armor, you have a great thing going here, keep up the good work...

SEL

[swag]

very nice texture - i think the contrast is too low -

[swag]

look
http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/elf_torso.jpg

[mohh]

Wow,

That would make a very nice old leather preset!!!

[leigh]

:cry:
It's supposed to be metal! :cry:

Hehehe...

The funny thing is, I originally textured it to be leather (never posted a render though) and even though I decided to change it to metal, I never quite got rid of the leather look :surprised

There is something about the idea of the leather that has evidently lingered, and snuck into these textures... it's really quite bizarre.

Thanks for all the comments everyone!!

SEL - yeah the arms are actually quite crap. That's because they don't have any elbows LOL I still need to finish them off properly...

Swag - that looks fantastic :thumbsup: I'm pumping up the contrast now...

Update coming soon! :bounce:

[mtmckinley]

super! :D I hope I texture mine half as well. Very nice!

[ivo D]

oke some comment for you.. lol:)

dudeguy was right..about the detail..

there could be some more tones of rust collor

but for the leather part..now that you say it ,it looks reallyleatherish hehe..
but dont worry..

give it some more shiny spots..and at some places the armor is a little to dark (grey tone) to be a good metal i think..

maybe some crack lines in the rust.. and than make the crack linesa little shiny..

[l_farley13_l]

Lookin' great can we get a veiw of the whole model in WIP ? That rust is spankin though!!

Farley13

[Joril]

About the leather look.
Why not add some more metal to the rust? And maybe some bright highlights. The grey alone is not enough.

[leigh]

Righto, update time! :bounce:

Thanks for the comments :thumbsup:

And here is the armour, with more colours added, and stronger contrast, also slightly different lighting.

Crits most welcome!! In fact, they are MANDATORY.

http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/elf_torso_08.jpg

[mrmark]

very nice :)

i feel guilty telling u what to do but:
on the shoulder pad where it is sliced perhaps add more silvery spec and more flaky gold like u said :)

[ZeroNeuro]

Looks great so far leigh :) Perhaps a bit too rough, possibly make the leather have a slightly more shiny specular. Great use of the diffuse channel btw. Also, the rip in the shoulder cairass might be a little too open. Other than that, and a better choice of lighting, I think you have this thing nailed down. I love that belt system! However, I am not sure I agree with the rivets/buttons. This design looks very old. Ancient... perhaps you could use stitching instead? Looks excellent! :applause:

[leigh]

:wip:

And another quick update before I go to bed :)

I've been trying to make this look more like metal... As I mentioned previously, the original leather texture is haunting it to much, so I've gone a little extreme in trying to get it to look metallic.

I do think that there are too many colours here, but I will fix that.

I am concerned that this may be a little too saturated as well...

Looking for some good crits :D

http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/elf_torso_09.jpg

[killahsin]

Ok I think the base gold./metal with rust over it is the right direction. Cracks and chips etc, your definatly heading in the right direction. The shoulderpad area, rust where the rain etc would hit it, and the parts that are covered by the above shoulder plate cleaner works good. Keep it comming, and remember certain rustic areas tend to get very rusty(darker) in the middle where the rust has eaten away at the metal the most. So in certain rusted spots i would go for the real depth and have it eat or almost eat right through.

I'm loving what i am seeign though. Keep on posting them =)

Aragorn =P :eek: :D :scream:

[wgreenlee1]

I dont know....
I thought it looked more like metal before you did this Leigh.
This looks like somebody smugged on it with gray crayon.
You probrably think it looks like leather because you meant it to look like leather but to me it looks metal-like without the gray stuff.

Looking good though!

[Carina]

I think this is a definite improvement!

:thumbsup:

[chadlychoo]

Wow! Great textures. Maybe you could give the rust a kind of glittery specualr highlight. :shrug: Great work so far Texturing Goddess! :thumbsup:

[coCoKNIght]

I must say, I'm amazed!

[killahsin]

ive been analyzing it for a bit leigh and i dont actually think there are to many colors. Except for the red in the upper left area of the x and the red on the right side as well. Everything else looks superb with the metal and gold as base golors.


Try to stop and look at it from the viewer seeing it without trying to crit it. And not the artist. I think you will agree you are on the right track definatly. Soem areas are a bit worn down yes but remember that happens on metal armor.

the metal along the crack of the right shoulder blade(pad)(viewers left) is an awesome touch at depth, adds to the realism. Definatly keep at it.

[rolhionjs]

Well Leigh, that's always an awesome work !

In my own opinion, i think the last render is too saturate in colors, and we also see too much the procedural bump comparede to the render you did just before the last. I prefered this one, but that's a question of taste i think. Anyway, what do you think about desaturate these colors a little bit like this :

http://www.designpicture.com/images3Dversion/leigh01.jpg

Here you still have the main color idea, and in the same time you keep the grey tones. what do you think ?

[Jhonus]

Originally posted by .::STRIKE::.
In my own opinion, i think the last render is too saturate in colors,

/me agrees

[mv]

Great work, Leigh. But totally I agree with .:STRIKE:. . You know, the hardest thing is to choose the right time to stop.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Hi Leigh :bounce:

I have to say that i agree with .::STRIKE::. and m@. ...50%, the other 50% of my opinion is hold back from only one question bothering my mind....soldiers have cuts on their armor..but i don't think they leave them to rust..!!!

just a thought._

:wavey:

[mohh]

STRIKE is right on the money. Your gray drew too much attention to itself. I like what he did with it.

Awesome job!!

[killahsin]

er soldiers dont let their armor rust, but remember this is a wraith....

[swag]

Leigh go on! u can do that all in post so go on dont touch the texture anymore :)

[SirManfred]

Woooo!

[eh]

I'm not sure but the hindges(the loops) joining the armor together, to me, seems to look superimposed. should there not be some build up of dust and dirt where they connect. and the armor is made to allow the soldier to run, would there not be wear and tear on the hinges, and scratches where they pivoted?

[rsalonen]

Great job Leigh.
Every project you work on just keeps getting better and better.
And it's nice to see some lightning, because I always thought some of your a bit older pictures on your site was to dark to see the actuall nice textures, you didn't have fill lights etc.

Well, this is going to rock so darn good!

Question: would you mind posting some of the painted texture maps, some small examples. I really wanna see how you made such great textures fit everywhere so good!

[muckywetnoodle]

Looks like you need to start a texturing challenge! :) That rust is nutty.

Sorry I am not able to read through the many pages of comments but will you be working on the figure underneath any more? He's looking kinda unrefined.

[CGSisdead]

that is some really amazing texture work,leigh
awesome :buttrock:

[Viper]

Wow that's awsome!! Great work....

But, the grey parts should be in the middle. When something gets rusted, it's normally from the edges to the center ;)

[cakeypigdog]

i was feeling happy with my work ...but now i am in awe! this is just incredible stuff: the detail in your texture is exquisit! is it procedural or image based?
keep up the excellent work: its really comming along now.... i hadnt looked at it for a few days and i was wondering if it would change much. i am blown away by the development you have acheived since i last looked! amazing!
i think strike is bang on with the saturation... it makes a dramatic improvement.

[jadedchron]

a skelly in that armor would look awesome :cool:

[Tellerve]

It is pretty darn tootin' good, my only concern is what the grey sludge like smears on the armor are? Whatever they may be I don't think they fit, at least in my dream world of wraiths and rusty armor that fills my head.

Tellerve

[zzzrByte]

Strike! Strike! Strike! Strike!

I was going over you last updates and suddenly saw one of your new images and I swear to god I said wow out loud... It was Strike's update... You should really take his advice to heart! :shame:

And Strike, don't let it go to your head... You are standing on the shoulders of a giant. :p

Keep up the great work Leigh :drool:

[rolhionjs]

Excuse my english, but i didn't understand well what you mean. What do you mean ?

[KingMob]

Strike :

He meant you are good, and your suggestion was good, but that leighs model/textures were already good, so you were just making them better.

I think he meant it as a compliment to both you and leigh,

not as a stab at you (cause you do indeed rock!)

It's a figure of speech, and I think he meant it jokingly

:beer:

[rolhionjs]

wow :) then thx, coz i didn't have any idea of the talk :) (gosh i was too bad in english at school, and it's worse now :D )

so thx zzzrByte ! and KingMob : do you want to be my personnal translator ;p :p (thx for translation)

[zzzrByte]

Strike - Since English isn't my first language, or yours, I'll explain it like this.

Leigh = :buttrock:
Strike = :buttrock:
Leigh + Strike = :buttrock: :eek: :buttrock:

Leigh and Strike sitting in a tree... T-E-X-T-U-R-I-N-G.
</juvenile comments>

OK, ok... I'll try to act my age from now on... Kind of lost control there for a second.

[draconix]

Going well so far, how has it been progressing lately?

[dur23]

still ammmmmmazing:) beutiful attention to the finer details that life (age) provides:) :eek:

I really personally enjoyed the "oversaturated" look your going with.... but thats me...im a freak for lotsocolors! Don't listen to strike hes crazy.hehehee. Oh wait maybe thats me:P

[AgentX]

AWESEOME, just awesome! I love the textures. They are freaking amazing! Great job!

[Eman597]

As a fellow Lightwaver, let me just say: :bowdown:

[shoey]

Hey Leigh, where you gone girl:shrug: lets see some more of your magic:thumbsup:

[Mandrake]

absolutly great texturing Leigh :buttrock:

.. maybe the white areas should not be
that pronounced and at that amount imho..
but it's great.. also why bother with desaturating in LW..
yes the PS tweak looks better but just do it in
Photoshop - everyones doing that

.. you should put some more time in modeling but ok
i know how's when you rush into what you likes the most:)
I'm interested to see texturing the other parts..

[plaguelord]

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[leigh]

Thanks for all the comments/ crits/ suggestions everyone!!

Sorry there hasn't been an update in a while, but I've been busy writing...
Now it's back to this for a few days! :D

To address some questions/comments:

- the grey bits are the unrusted metallic bits. They need work, I know :p Hehehe
- the maps are all handpainted
- it's been desaturated now - should I destaturate even more?
- I added some slight changes in the areas around the little rungs.

Here is a teeny weeny update, to show where I am:

http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/elf_torso_10.jpg

--> I have started on the belts and buckles and stuff. Need to finish those off. Also need to adjust the belt models slightly, as they aren't fitting him too well.

--> After that, I will get back to the cloth, and then the skin.

--> I still need to finish the helmet.

--> I am going to adjust the unrusted bits on the torso to be less silvery.

[blankslatejoe]

still looking good, good luck with the writing!

[Tommy Lee]

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Fetus23]

Nice update leigh!! The strapping is looking good and that armor was amazing the first time you posted it, tis very very good now. :thumbsup: It feels more like metal then leather to me....such beautiful details...keep it up!!! I'm curious to see how you'll pull off the ghostly figure inside that armor..... :wip: :wip:
thanks again for your amazing texture crits!! wish i could return the favor, maybe i'll study your image hard to try and find some problems :)...

:wavey:
fetus

[evildeli]

very nice. i would probably push for a more oxidized look(some more green), but the gash on the shoulder is a nice touch. I'd love to see more tears like that.
p.s. i don't think i own a high horse, but i can check....nope.

[BishopLynx]

Wow. Your Texturing skills are awesome.

[-=InQ=-]

actually, even an ordinary silver never becomes rusty, not even talking about the mythril ;)
but it looks cool

[LeConcorde]

ooh! great texturing, can't wait to see skin texture~:buttrock:

[fletchman]

OHHHHH MYYYYY GODDDDDD!!!!

ME goes on his knees and worships the temple of the Texture Goddess. When are we gonna see the rest?:buttrock:

[leigh]

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee update time!! :D

What a chaotic week it has been :surprised

Thanks for the comments, people :thumbsup:

And here is a teeny update. Will continue, and hopefully post another update tonight....

http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/elf_all_01.jpg

This is the sort of direction I'm going in for the cloth. Old, mouldy, a bit iffy. I think I actually need to shred it up more...

[plaguelord]

amazing as always!:drool:

[mv]

:buttrock: that fits excellently! I'm waiting for detailled shredding, that'll look great!keep it up!:beer:

[Pietjuh]

The robe is pretty cool done! :)

[chrisWhite]

wowowowowow! I'm a huge LOTR fan and this just fits perfect into Tolkien's world! I love it, I love it, I love it! So kewl!

[Fetus23]

leigh!! Nice update on the dress...fits well with the armor, color and all. It just needs to be more shredded but i know your getting to that!! :)...really great stuff liegh!!..give us more updates!!! :wip: :wip:

:beer:

[Satyricon]

AMAZING!!!!!!:buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

[tsuru]

Looking good.... I hope when you say you are getting to the shredding that you really mean shedding...not just tattering. Don't be afraid to show some of that leg.........armor. ;)

Surely huge chunks of a garment would have been ripped or cut off over the thousands (?) of years this dude has been undead.


:beer:

ps. update your cgchallenge.com entry

[draconix]

I like the direction you're going. Your textures are really coming together.

[mage111]

hey leigh, ive been watching your progress on this awesome model for sometime (page 15 n on) and i must say, its been quite an eye popping experiance.

your work is trully amazing, but im sure you know that already, considering this thread is filled with 10% constructive critisims, 5% of your work, 5% of people who express there jaw dropping reactions in seeing your work, and 80% in saying how awesome your work is ;-).

i thought i'd do the same.

but i was also curious, i love the cloth/texturing used on the dress of the btw, but you mentioned shredding it up some

is that going to be done around the base? or maybe im asking a stupid question lol.

otherwise ive been trying to look @ the model and find things to question, or give suggestions on improving, but i just cant lol.

well done, and with the way this models going i know it'll turn out to be another ORC of moria head(oh, thats a compliment :p)

TTYL

[leigh]

Thank you very much for all the comments everyone :thumbsup:

Not really much, just been shredding up the cloth some more...

More to come soon...

http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/elf_all_02.jpg

[coCoKNIght]

coming along nicely! What about making some holes also in the middle of the cloth, not only on the borders? I like the colors!
Keep it up! :thumbsup:

[BiTMAP]

use an alpha map to make some of the fiber shredding at the bottom...

[Mangled Poly]

awesome as always

[leigh]

More shredding.... more holes... more alpha maps.... more to come...

http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/elf_all_03.jpg

Oh, and just for fun (I was bored while waiting for a render) I did a "bigfoot sighting" style piccy! :D

Have you seen this elf?? hehehe

http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/elf_swamp.jpg

[eh]

Beautifully done, you're an inspiration to us all

[Hellwolve]

Leigh, all this work makes me wondering: when are you going to remove the surprised expresion on his face?

:p

Great work!
:thumbsup:

[Raul-Reznek]

Kick thir balls girl! :D

i think it's now time for u to go to modelling :D

[derelict]

Everything looks like it was made with love and commitment. Ok when will you be finishing the skin? I do hope it will be pretty soon. GREAT TEXTURE WORK!!

[leigh]

Thanks for the comments guys :D

That surprised expression will be going soon ;)

Okay, here is a VERY VERY VERY QUICK environment test, using a pic of the Dead Marshes from TTT as an environment. I will obviously match shadows and lighting properly once I decide on my final shot, but this is the sort of feel I think I be heading for.
This is just a quick Photoshop mockup.

I will be doing the ghostly skin soon - right now, that blaring whitish tone is really ruining things :surprised

Oh, and his right hand is like that because he is going to be holding a spear-like weapon ;)

http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/elf_all_04.jpg

[Bilbo_Baggins]

:drool: I think Im in love.

;)

[mage111]

im with bilbo on that, remind me not to go fishing there :O

thats wikkid leigh, really is!

[stefanoTabacco]

just wanted to be the 400th reply.

a little bit of loquacity in here
:)

Stefano

[Snakeman]

through all of this stuff....the one thing that kinda aggrivates me is all of the LOTR "fans" out there....who never heard of tolkien 'til the movie came out.....heheh just my 2 (cents symbol)

:wavey:

[leigh]

Snakeman, Lord Of The Rings is the most widely read book in the English speaking world after the Christian Bible.
I think most people had heard of it before :)

I personally have ALWAYS been a fan :D
Apart from having first read the books as a little kid, I have an LOTR poster by Cauty on my bedroom wall that I have had for years and years - merchandise that predates the films :) That poster still looks awesome!
Most of my friends read the book when they were kids too.

So I think that most people did know the story from before :)

I think a lot of the appeal for the films was that people wanted to see if the films would portray Middle Earth in the way that we had always imagined it to look.

I will never forget the day, in early '99, when I first read in the local paper that a film was going to be made of the series. From that day forth, I waited with growing excitement to see them, and I even had my really high expectations totally surpassed!

[BiTMAP]

I know, it bugs me as well :) I read the hobbit way back many a year ago, and i enjoyed it then i read the LOTR series... but Then there is Leigh who just rawks the moodeling and skinnin... one of the few who's entry fits.

[smfjersey]

It was mandatory reading in my school. Looking great Leigh.

[mage111]

your upset so many picked up on a great story?

what, is the story only for the few and the proud?'

edit:

i dont mean to start an argument by this either, i just feel that because i began reading the novels after the fellowship was was released in theatres, that im somehow not a true fan or something in which older fans, fans that predate the movies

(including the animated one, which how many can say they have and or watched [ i only say this because from what the people ive talked to they havent watched it so ive lent it to them]) stand apoun from the rest of the fans, that only started falling in love with this story after it was brought to film.

I love leighs work, i love the books, and the movies, and my friend has some other books ive only had the fortune of catching glimpses of. i dont see why you have to be angry.

is it because people may not have been fortunate enough to have heard of these books growing up like myself?
had i known about these i would have no dout read them.

PS. if this causes an argument, that was not my intention.

[BiTMAP]

Originally posted by mage111
your upset so many picked up on a great story?

what, is the story only for the few and the proud?'

edit:

i dont mean to start an argument by this either, i just feel that because i began reading the novels after the fellowship was was released in theatres, that im somehow not a true fan or something in which older fans, fans that predate the movies

(including the animated one, which how many can say they have and or watched [ i only say this because from what the people ive talked to they havent watched it so ive lent it to them]) stand apoun from the rest of the fans, that only started falling in love with this story after it was brought to film.

I love leighs work, i love the books, and the movies, and my friend has some other books ive only had the fortune of catching glimpses of. i dont see why you have to be angry.

is it because people may not have been fortunate enough to have heard of these books growing up like myself?
had i known about these i would have no dout read them.

PS. if this causes an argument, that was not my intention.

You've forced me (in a great way) to realise its not that you became a fan after seeing the movies that would bug me, but that someone who's interest came from the movies and never went very deap to trying to understand the story and the depth it has.

[Mangled Poly]

Looking awesome as always, as far as the people out therei have loved the LOTR series for many years, however i think its dumb to get mad over new fans... i mean it rallys more support for things liek this so encourage it.. dont get pissed over ti thats just dumb.:beer:

[Grub]

LotR has a great many fans, old and new. There's room for all of them.:)

:wavey:Leigh-
Elfy looks darker and better, since you dirtied him up a bit. I thought you were gonna wraithify him? Perhaps this wraith lost his magic ring. (Or did bigfoot steal it?:p)

Edit:
By the way - the spear sounds like the right weapon for him.:D

[Snakeman]

hehe i love startin trouble:twisted:muhhahahahaha

anyways.....me and biTmap are exactly on the same wavelength, i couldnt have put it any better.....and just to clear somethin up...hehe i never said i was MAD i just said it bugged me...yano kinda....makes my eye twitch or something...just one of those things.:beer:


we wanna update----WHOO HOO HOO we wanna up date--HOO HOO:eek:

[mage111]

hehe i love startin troublemuhhahahahaha

well in that case, that makes everything alright :thumbsup:

hehe

care for a :beer: ? :-)

[Monkeyfarm]

Really nice work on the armor textures... But I gather from the blurb under your name that texturing is your forte! :)

Are you going to texture the skin as well?

[Dreamwave]

I'm looking forward to see the skin textures...
it's already looking very awsome :buttrock:

[OZ]

I love the integration tests.......make clear how muche the model is "lotr" like!.U rox a lot this time....but reeeally a lot!;)
Hei...a friend of mine fall in love 4 u!! And ask me how to find more photos of the texturing goddes!!!! U are a star baby!:love:

[leigh]

Righto, thanks for all the comments, and that rather odd, yet interesting discussion about LOTR :p

OZ - LOL!!!

Okay, I have started making a "ghostly" skin...
Also added a spear :)

Comments, crits, suggestions and debates welcome! :D

http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/images/elf_all_05.jpg

[Hellwolve]

Don't want to be an pain in the a**, but the ghostly skin you've got now doesn't look much different than before. An close up would be really apriciated :p

[leigh]

The skin is now transparent and cloudy, whereas before it was just a flat colour :)
It takes ages to render, so I won't post a new one just yet.

HOWEVER,

I am considering possibly texturing the skin to look like that of a dead body that has been in water - like the skin of the girl in The Ring.

Umm... this might sound a bit gross, but does anyone know where I could find pictures of drowning victims, or dead skin that has been bloated from water? (and DON'T say rotten.com)

Any help is appreciated! :D

[rolhionjs]

Not sure you'll find the exact thing you're searching for in this one, but it can help finding something approaching.

Very disgusting pictures of real diseases, that could help your budy skin texturing :

To look carefuly....

http://tray.dermatology.uiowa.edu/DermImag.htm

[mage111]

leigh i can take some screen captions of The Ring if that would help, just PM me if you do and i'll get right on it :-)

i know it wont be the best reference, but you did mention it and thought it may help somewhat :-)

[Grub]

Leigh, I spotted this link the other day.:)
Ick! It has pictures of stars posing as dead bodies in films - maybe you'll find what you're looking for...www.cinemorgue.com (http://www.cinemorgue.com)

[Kirt]

Leigh, nice work as usual. Model and textures are super! However, the pose looks very unnatural. Kind of like a mannequin pose. And I think it's making your hard work on the details suffer. I mean, all that texturing to make it look real, but the pose just screams, "look at me I'm a 3D model" (or an action figure). I hope you can do something with that pose in the next couple of days.

[coCoKNIght]

Right!
and I'd like to see the ghost render you made pages and pages before combined with the normal render of the wraith :drool:

[tomb]

Wow. Textures are looking really nice Leigh :buttrock:

[ytrabbit]

Wow Leigh! You ARE the TG! I know that YOU need encouragement like the Pope needs faith, but...wow!

If you aren't married, I'm buying the ring now!:D
(Only kidding, I truly mean no offense...I ain't worthy anyway...)

You have a major fan of your amazing skills in me!(yes, THAT and $2US WILL get you on the bus.)

I look forward to ALL of your works.

[somlor]

Great composition Leigh. And excellent texturing of course.

I like your idea about the skin being like the girl from The Ring. That's exactly how I pictured it.

[s]

[dark_lotus]

Looking good leigh!

Nice to see that you post hasn't ahem died. So to Speak.

[leigh]

Thank you to everyone for all the suggestions, crits and of course all the support :thumbsup:

You people all rule :xtreme:

I would have loved to have textured the skin to more detail, and posed him better (I really suck at that) but I am currently moving house, and am too busy with packing and sorting out bills and ten billion other things that I have not had time to get this done :sad:

So sadly I have to instead go through the chaotic hell that is moving residence, and just leave this last render as my final.
I'll finish it off properly next week or so, and put it on my site :)

To add to that, some bastard sent me a NASTY virus which has resulted in me having to remove loads of files from my computer which means I need to do a massive reinstallation of a whole lot of software :annoyed:

Assholes.

But anyway...

...Good luck to everyone! :beer:

[Fede]

Bummer Leigh, i feel for you as i know i have a fresh install coming too.

Did you know that moving residence has been categorised as stressful as say, a divorce or a loved one passing away.

Otherwise looking forward to you finished product.

later

[ZeroNeuro]

Or as bad as say, a girlfriend moving back home to her parents' house because she is co-dependant. That's what kept me from finishing mine.

Cheers,
Zero

[leigh]

Aaaah the dust settles, and the challenge is over :)

I wrote a bit about how I made the armour - you can read it here (http://leigh.cgcommunity.com/making_of.htm) :D

Thanks for all the support, encouragement, crits, suggestions and comments to EVERYONE!

[rolhionjs]

hey cool Leigh ! One hour ago i was on your site and i didn't see that !!! arrgggg... need glasses... Very cool link ! thanks ! :)

[leigh]

LOL
I only put it onto my site in the last hour :p

[rolhionjs]

so my eyes are ok ! :) and i can see this great work ! :)

[leigh]

Yeah your eyes are fine :thumbsup:

Keep up the great work, yourself, by the way! I think I might consult you at some point soon for my book! I love your techniques :D

[rolhionjs]

no problem :) i'm always here :)

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