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sirpetr
06-01-2006, 06:32 PM
I was really not sure whether to start this beautiful modeling challenge or not. There are plenty of good photo references, but Iīm still missing details. I dont like to model things that I cannot well recognize.

This is my start :
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/6964/render14qc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

RobertoOrtiz
06-01-2006, 08:51 PM
Great work.

Looking forward to more updates!

-R

sirpetr
06-02-2006, 08:05 AM
Updates on the way :-)

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1363/render57oc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

sirpetr
06-02-2006, 03:28 PM
another update..
next I will focus on the top and the roof

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/1585/render25td.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

SweD
06-02-2006, 03:45 PM
mouarf..it's a very good modeling
Could it be possible to have a close up wire/shade of your lateral rhombus parts pliiiiz ? :)

Rod Seffen
06-03-2006, 07:09 AM
That looks great so far.

kirouac
06-04-2006, 04:50 AM
I have a question for u?

Did u model the clock just in one part or it is several parts ?

sirpetr
06-04-2006, 08:28 AM
another update

there are always some minor issues, that you actually find out only in the render. It is easy to correct that line at the bottom of the clocks and missing arches in the very middle.

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/9954/render69ht.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


dominikmk : yes, it consist of several parts, but they are pretty good aligned to one another so it looks like one solid object... and I am convinced, that it will be also better for texturing

SweD : Firstly , I cannot understand what does "lateral rhombus" means. :) :scream: I am going to do more close ups to see details, because on these renders many beautiful details are washed out.

kirouac
06-04-2006, 03:10 PM
with my question i forgot to say, nice work :thumbsup:

sirpetr
06-04-2006, 05:42 PM
added top wall
I donīt have already made clocks in the render because I have it in separate files. Also made minor changes and final touches to clocks - I will post clocks render next time.

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/6345/render79qh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

sirpetr
06-04-2006, 09:56 PM
Added upper side pillars

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4932/render84fe.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

There are some small details that are still missing :wip: - like old inscriptions. Its because i have only limited references and from that the letters are not completely clear. Also missing floral reliefs behind the front shields and similar reliefs behind the upper shield. I will have to decide whether to model these parts or use a texture, but its called hardcore modeling challenge, so I would prefer the first way.

Thats all for today. Time to go to bed. :wise:

TheThidMan
06-05-2006, 08:27 AM
Amazing details!

sirpetr
06-05-2006, 07:49 PM
added first roof

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1795/render113xe.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7848/render123wc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This was the hardest part so far. I wanted to model the whole roof, not use a texture. The first difficulty turned out right in the middle of modeling process. I suddenly realized that I have got not 8 horizontal rows as on the original roof of BigBen, but 9 :eek: :eek: I wasnt happy at all. I wasnt sure whether to do the whole roof again with 8 rows or let there 9 rows. I have found the third way - not an easy one - I removed all the edges and vertices on correct places and shortened the number of rows down to 8. :) So finally im satisfied with the result.

On the upper parts I have really no good refences, so it will be funny. :p

Polycount is as I expected not so low. Now 190.000 triangles.
Lot of details are not visible because of the same colour, but after texturing you will see them.

Still missing 2 statues and inscriptions and floral reliefs.

kirouac
06-06-2006, 02:25 AM
Well well well ! :eek: Really nice work dude :thumbsup:, man where do u get the time ? are u planning to do the parlement too ? :bounce: I keep following ur thread dude !

sirpetr
06-06-2006, 08:16 AM
TheThidMan : thanks

dominikmk : yeah, youīre right, the time is an issue; Iīm not the fastest modeler in this forum but I try to catch all the details. Iīm not planning to do Parliament, because of the time. I will be happy to complete BigBen on time and do final renders.

sirpetr
06-06-2006, 10:45 PM
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8575/render135mc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

added other top parts.

http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/9459/render143bj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

added inscription
details on inscription.. I know that other small details around this area arenīt 100% correct, because I found 2 close-up pictures on this part posted by zzzrByte, so I will correct that as soon as I complete roof parts.

maksy
06-07-2006, 12:21 AM
WoW... I really like this... how many polygons now? .... awesome!:eek:

sirpetr
06-07-2006, 03:05 PM
http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/9291/render150bo.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

added last roof.
polygons still around 200.000.

kubaweinert
06-07-2006, 05:29 PM
Really Hardcore! :D

lebada
06-07-2006, 07:42 PM
im gonna learn vodoo so i can steal your soul...then get ur skills and put ur soul back in your body again...

great work:thumbsup:

rasmusW
06-08-2006, 04:49 PM
haven't got any crits for you, only comments. it looks superb. great work.

-r

DDS
06-09-2006, 10:46 AM
looking great! don't kill it please :)

sirpetr
06-09-2006, 10:47 AM
abyss103,Buggy166,kubaweinert :
thanks. But I would like to say that its not really about skills, its more about amount of time spend and determination to complete that
I hope I will post soon another updates. All top parts are about to be completed.

sirpetr
06-09-2006, 03:39 PM
Here is announced update. Happy to tell that all upper parts are completed. Yes, still missing some minor details and I have discovered from some photos that one part is possibly a bit different, but thatīs not big issue.

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8264/render1620un.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Close-up on the roof
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/8643/render1725uo.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

jdtiX
06-09-2006, 05:01 PM
Man, these entries are so good! I'm getting a little nervous about the area around the actual clock, myself. Splines? Booleans? Extrude?

Yours looks so good, man. Keep it up.

RobertoOrtiz
06-11-2006, 03:44 PM
Just an FYI:
ROBERTO's BULLHORN: BIG BEN (The voting thread goes LIVE on the 13th) (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=368846)

Looking forward to your final entry.
-R

sirpetr
06-12-2006, 12:04 PM
uups... for some reason I thought deadline is 16th :-) :hmm: :hmm: :hmm:

RobertoOrtiz
06-12-2006, 04:08 PM
Here is an update .....


ROBERTO's BULLHORN: BIG BEN Voting Thread Will Go Live On Friday June 12 @ MIDNIGHT (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=369174)
Until then...
I am NOT looking.

-R

sirpetr
06-12-2006, 11:35 PM
FINAL ENTRY

Hi all. Its high time to say my last words to 2nd Modeling challenge.

Today it was really exhausting. The last day in the morning I found in the thread that we are finishing today. For some reason I thought that the dateline is 16th. It was my big fault and I wasnt really happy. But now I can say I have completed most of that I wanted.

The tower, as you can see, isnt fully completed. There is no bottom part, the easist I can say.

STATISTICS

RENDERER - MAXWELL 1.2.2a
MESHES - 2.999
TRIS - 1.156.830
VERTICES - 624.305


TIME SPEND (not exactly but estimated)

5 hours - looking for references, preparation, correction of photos - levels, sharpening, estimating measures from photos
110 hours - modeling
6 hours - texturing, painting textures
6 hours - final touches, rendering



http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3805/final19sa.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5090/final25ng.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I wasnt able to deliver to this midnight more renders. Tommorow (exactly today) I wont be at home, I will spend all the day at the cottage because of some important issues, but later will post wires and more renders. Good night.

RobertoOrtiz
06-13-2006, 12:40 AM
Great work.
You have until Friday to do any tweaks you want for the voting thread
(Things like adding the base :) ).

IT WILL BE NOTED That YOU FINISHED ON TIME.

-R

sirpetr
06-13-2006, 01:29 AM
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7035/final326ts.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

MrPositive
06-15-2006, 06:17 AM
Wow that's nice! Did you use HDRI in Maxwell for the render?

sirpetr
06-15-2006, 05:23 PM
Mr. Positive :
thanks
yes, I used HDRI as MXI Emitter mapped on half sphere, but similar result you can obtain with classic enviroment.
I will use alpha channel and remove this HDRI sky with some sky pictures I have, which will give far better and realistic results. Its good to have HDRI sky reflected in glass but in the sky it looks like really flat so I will do that fast tweaks.

I have prepared some pictures but I will show then on Friday because the lowest parts arent yet completed - but on the other side I have modeled two big statues, made all the floral motifs and ornaments as a mesh (before I used texture and for some reason bump maps wasnt able to appear), modeled another details in the clocks area and corrected some mistakes and errors I have found.

MrPositive
06-16-2006, 12:43 AM
It seems like you are going for a very overcast day. But you could probably add a directional light for some hard shadows and more light and then use a brighter image in the background. This would also allow people to see your detail on the building better. Just a thought...

sirpetr
06-17-2006, 12:54 AM
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/865/konecnyrender19so.th.jpg (http://img240.imageshack.us/my.php?image=konecnyrender19so.jpg)

sirpetr
06-17-2006, 01:25 AM
STATISTICS

RENDERER - MAXWELL 1.2.2a
MESHES - 3.967
TRIS - 1.508.500
VERTICES - 829733


http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8840/konecnyrender32wp.th.jpg (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=konecnyrender32wp.jpg)

or maybe this (http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7594/konecnyrender20ov.jpg) one is better

kirouac
06-17-2006, 04:53 AM
Man u got my vote! :thumbsup: really nice works of art

francescom
06-18-2006, 09:44 AM
very powerful image, you made a great work:thumbsup:

sirpetr
06-19-2006, 10:12 AM
francescom, dominikmk : thanks

here is another render... I am convinced, that it is the best so far... I have found great sky picture that works very well

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1776/superfinal16xl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

NLGFX
06-19-2006, 10:23 AM
man, this is just insane!! keep up the good work! speechless here... :eek:

fx81
06-19-2006, 12:53 PM
hey, very good modeling.

for crits, i think most of your renders are from too much of a low angle which makes it very difficult to judge the details in the clock.

sirpetr
06-19-2006, 05:38 PM
fx81:

that was because I have had no spare time to do other than final, pre-final renders...

here are some pictures which can show you details - there is not rgb channel, but coscamera channel because it takes only a while to render, not an hour


http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/8008/coscameradetails17ru.th.jpg (http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=coscameradetails17ru.jpg)


http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/8602/coscameradetails28mi.th.jpg (http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=coscameradetails28mi.jpg)

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/5880/coscameradetails38sg.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=coscameradetails38sg.jpg)

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8972/coscameradetails41bu.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=coscameradetails41bu.jpg)

RobertoOrtiz
06-23-2006, 05:37 AM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/17.gif

Congtraz!

-R

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