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Darkvision
05-27-2006, 09:45 PM
So I decided to start an anatomy thread, since I've always had a problem with it. I never works out the way I want it to XD

Okay to start it off I'll post a WIP I'm working on which I am in desperate need of some critique for.
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/3732/leggy0im.jpg
Comments and critique more than welcome ^^

Rebeccak
05-28-2006, 02:30 AM
Hi Darkvision,

Welcome to the Anatomy Forum! :)

I did a paintover of your piece, which I hope helps:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Darkvision/Darkvision_Rev-01.gif

Full size jpg:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Darkvision/Darkvision_Rev-01.jpg

The main thing you need to try to do is establish the body without clothes before adding clothes to the figure.

Ultimately the best way to get better at drawing figures is doing Life Drawings / Paintings, and Master Copies. Do you have access to Life Drawing classes in your area? If so, I would encourage you to attend.

Also I would encourage you to do Anatomy Studies, or copies of Anatomical Drawings, from online resources or preferably from books. We have a wide variety of resources here which I would encourage you to check out at your leisure:

Anatomy Resources : BOOKS (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=257424)

A book I recommend is:
"Artistic Anatomy", by Dr. Paul Richer - Watson Guptill, publisher (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0823002977/102-0177294-1220179?v=glance&n=283155&s=books&v=glance)

A great variety of Reference can be found here:
Reference for Anatomical and Figurative Art (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=257570)

See this useful thread with links to Master Copy Resources:

Master Copy Resources (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=354836)

Hope this helps! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Darkvision
05-28-2006, 11:19 AM
Ah, seems like I got it all wrong.. XD I'd better get started with doing some.. anatomy studies and such right away.
Big thanks Rebecca!

Rist
05-28-2006, 11:38 AM
I only just started properly at 18. While at school I didnt have the internet so I couldnt really know what I needed to develop properly. Ah well, only a little set-back.

Darkvision
05-28-2006, 11:41 AM
Well I'm only 15 so I guess I've got plenty of time for practice XD

Darkvision
05-28-2006, 12:20 PM
I trie to fix the legs, but I dont know if I did it any good... Looks rather strange. >.>
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9207/legfix2ag.jpg

Rist
05-28-2006, 12:49 PM
Mermaid perhaps? :)

Darkvision
05-28-2006, 01:10 PM
Oh noo.. It does look like a mermaid :|
That was.. certainly not what it was supposed to look like >.<

Rebeccak
05-28-2006, 02:20 PM
Darkvision,

Hey, so you are 15? We have two folks around your age with threads here:

Anatomy Thread of Jack Shannon (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=337302)

Anatomy Thread of Ceresz (formerly Skurai) (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=320704)

I really recommend working Traditionally as well as Digitally. Working Traditionally is essential, I think, in learning the fundamentals of art.

You might try sketching this out traditionally first, then scanning (if you have a scanner) and reworking the image digitally.

Do you have any Traditional work which you can show? It would be great to see examples of your other artwork. :)

I think your piece is looking better. The main thing, I think, is to try some Master Copies and to begin to do drawings from Life ~ draw friends, relatives, the family pet, etc. :) Observational drawing is essential to learning how to draw the figure.

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Darkvision
05-28-2006, 04:39 PM
Sure Rebecca, I have two pictures in pencil here.
I made this first one for my mom on Mothers Day ^^
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/406/ajumapencil7jw.jpg

And this one is just a quick one of some random model I drew about an hour ago.
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9350/malemodel8yp.jpg

Enjoy :D

Rist
05-28-2006, 05:04 PM
I think your real good for your age. But when being a good artist at early age it can lead to a bigger ego and then believing you cannot learn anything new due to 'knowing' everything. That for me is the biggest mistake for a young artist. I would hate to see you go down that route.

Thoughts ended. I think you should consider, at an ealy age as you are, to use traditional media first. Dont jump the gun by going straight to digital work.

[A: Digital work allows you to get rid of mistake WAY TOO easy! You can just revert to an earlier stage of you picture. You might think this is great, but its not! As a developing artist you need to know the punishment within art when you do mistakes so that you become more efficient in the long run.

[B: The colour mixer in computer programs doesnt learn you ANYTHING! Play around with colours with acrylic paints and oil paints and you will soon see and feel the colours being applied. If you just go straight to digital your images will look flat and lifeless due to you not experimenting with brush strokes and such with real paints.

[C: Colleges and University want to see Traditional pieces when they look for applicants. If its a CG course then they might pass it by. But showing traditional work shows that you have alot of potential and aren't scared to experiment.

I will stop the gibberish. Get someone to buy you some Gouach Paint, its the easiest to use and its a style between watercolour and Acrylic paint. Buy some decent small handled brushes of various ranges. This should get you started on painting. When you get confident with the brush, which takes time, try acrylics! Use oils and watercolours last as I believe these two are the hardest to master and they require seldom mistakes.

Darkvision
05-28-2006, 05:09 PM
I think I do just as much traditional as I do digital, just that I tend to work more on my digital.
I mostly use watercolor when I paint traditional though, I have acrylics but I find it harder.. I need to practice with that.

Here's a watercolor I made some time ago, I just cant remember where I got the reference though.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4328/halfface26bv.jpg

fredlovebot
05-28-2006, 06:58 PM
You definitly have some good stuff going on here! Never put down the pencil, keep going at it til' your hands hurt!

Always cool to see people from Sweden in here :)

Trunks
05-28-2006, 07:28 PM
You definately have great potential !
Try to paint every day and post some stuff every day this is th best way to improve :) I am looking forward to some new updates :)

umbrellasky
05-28-2006, 09:18 PM
This last watercolour is wonderful! Nice work! :)

Rebeccak
05-29-2006, 02:20 AM
Originally posted by Darkvision: I think I do just as much traditional as I do digital, just that I tend to work more on my digital.
I mostly use watercolor when I paint traditional though, I have acrylics but I find it harder.. I need to practice with that.
Darkvision, thank you for posting your Traditional work! Fl3wk is absolutely right about focusing on Traditional work ~ most colleges and universities with art programs demand to see that you have a strong Traditional Portfolio. :)

Regarding painting with acrylics, I think it is a much more flexible medium than gouache (a medium with which I have very little familiarity). I've just posted a thread containing some tips on painting with acrylics, feel free to check it out when you can ~ I hope it is helpful: :)

Acrylic Painting Tips (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3589608#post3589608)

Your watercolor study especially is lovely, and I hope to see more of your work! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Darkvision
05-29-2006, 09:12 PM
Thank you all for the support and advice! I really appreciate it. :D
Here's a quick one of some P.S Kroyer painting. I didnt really get into it that much.. I have a headache.
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1451/kroyer3xh.jpg

Darkvision
06-03-2006, 02:23 PM
Kind of old.. but just for fun ^^
http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/2453/marilynmanson3ml.jpg

Rebeccak
06-03-2006, 06:07 PM
Darkvision,

It would be great to see you do some portraits, either self portraits or of others, in the same style as you have done your last Manson piece, which has a nice, graphic style.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Darkvision
06-06-2006, 08:07 PM
Hi Rebecca!
Sure I'll try and do more portraits like that, dunno 'bout selfportraits though.. Never do good on those. Maybe I should practice on them then instead :D

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Here's kind of a colored sketch I did as a concept art of a painting I'm going to do for a friend.. I know, she doesnt have any face, he's gonna tell me how he want it later anyway.
I'm not too sure about the anatomy.. Rebecca, feel free to do one of your lovely paintovers ^^
http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/9754/smileyfacesketchruminaanthony2.jpg

Rebeccak
06-16-2006, 02:13 AM
Darkvision,

Keep working on this further ;) and when you truly can't get further without help, I'm happy to do a paintover.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Darkvision
06-24-2006, 07:08 PM
Okay, so I decided to changer her pose, so I redrew her, and now she's got a face! (based on the face of Peta Wilson actually)
Tell me what y'all think :D
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/610/fullbod0xd.jpg

Darkvision
06-25-2006, 01:35 AM
Another post, this time a nude study I did earlier. I used a black and white photoreference, and painted it in color for practice. Think it turned out just fine. :)
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1410/xcopy20iq.jpg

Rebeccak
06-26-2006, 09:41 PM
Darkvision,

Hmm, a bit risque, but nicely done. :) The lower torso seems a bit short ~ you might try lengthening that. Additionally, I would advise not working against a pure white bkgrd ~ fill it with a neutral tone so that you can more accurately judge your tones for the figure.

Looking forward to an update. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Digitalpaint
07-30-2006, 08:26 AM
Nice going Alexander, I especially like the lady (colors) in your first posts and the watercolor one:thumbsup:

Darkvision
08-01-2006, 12:44 AM
Thank you Emile!

Here's two mermaid/man studies I made, gonna make them into a painting I guess.
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8272/tehmermanyd4.jpg

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/2866/tehmermaidvt7.jpg

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