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bvsingh 01-09-2003, 03:07 PM NEW SITE REQUESTS
Moved by the overwhelming response (and growth) of XSI community, I have decided to make a XSI specific site (of course it will be a masterpiece).
I want your support in a couple of areas.
1) First of all what should be its name (though I have rougly decided)
2) Name of good free as well as cheap web hosts .
3) Most importantly , what features / sections should it have?
(Forums, chat , tuts, updates,news,free models, videos etcc.)
4) Would you like to become a visiting editor?
Other suggestions.
Hail XSI.
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Atyss
01-09-2003, 04:25 PM
Why don't you take a look at www.xsibase.com?
Salutations - Cheers
Bernard Lebel
ThE_JacO
01-09-2003, 06:20 PM
i don't absolutely want to bash on a borning project but....
is there a need to have another XSI comunity already ?
one thing is generic 3D sites like this one or 3D buzz or highend, they appeal to a comunity of tenths of thousands of people, each one with its own style, so multiple sites are good, everybody chooses his own way to join a 3D comunity.
in something so specific like XSI (where the user base disposed to frequent a forum hardly totals 5k i think) it would just split the existing comunity (that finally found a good aggregation place in xsibase) if it succeeds or waste your time if it fails.
this is unless it's going to be a specific one, where XSIbase right now is basically doing everything one needs for XSI in general terms; there is little if nothing to add.
maybe a localized comunity (i know for sure french people in example like localized comunities a lot), or a very specific something like a script vault...
anyway whatever it becomes my best wishes for the project.
bvsingh
01-10-2003, 10:26 AM
Hey,
Did you ever venture out into the web searching for Maya resources?
What I am trying to tell is that another site would spell variety and competition never hurts the spectator.
Afterall XSI Base is not the end of the world.
Some little things I will do better and some XSI Base features would be better.
Eventually it will be the XSI community that will profit.
And yes, it would be a completely non-profit , free site to promote XSI.
HAIL XSI.
Atyss
01-10-2003, 11:55 AM
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and some XSI Base features would be better.
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Like what?
My personal view on this (I know I'm biased, since I'm a XSI Base moderator) is that all resources should be available in as few places as possible. The XSI Net, Ed Harriss' site, xsifles.com and XSI Base are good examples. Too much scattered resources is not profitable for the user that search for them, as he has too much sites to check.
Just my 2 cents
Bernard Lebel
plug3
01-10-2003, 03:49 PM
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>>and some XSI Base features would be better.
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>>Like what?
Like going to the first unread post in a thread :scream:
I love XSI base but of all the forums I visit these days, it is the only one who doesn't have such a feature.
Atyss
01-10-2003, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by _d1
Like going to the first unread post in a thread :scream:
I love XSI base but of all the forums I visit these days, it is the only one who doesn't have such a feature.
I guess you have sent your request to Raffael?
Salutations - Cheers
Bernard Lebel
ThE_JacO
01-10-2003, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by bvsingh
Hey,
Did you ever venture out into the web searching for Maya resources?
yes, and it took ages to find the right stuff :)
while for XSI you just need to check softimage.com if you want a script and edharriss.com if you want a tut :)
What I am trying to tell is that another site would spell variety and competition never hurts the spectator.
comunities are strong when they are united and solid, competition usually shatters them.
i absolutely DO NOT want to dissuade you from working on a site, actually i'd rather be between the first to help it if it's worth it.
but again the guys at the base are doing a good job, instead of competition on the same ground (generic site/forum and news centered) why don't you do something completely different in regards of contents rather then only style/approach ?
Afterall XSI Base is not the end of the world.
well unless raffael3D is the antichrist or something i guess it isn't
Some little things I will do better and some XSI Base features would be better.
that's the only problem i see, nothing needs to be better or worse, unless you do an overall better job under every aspect doing the same thing would shatter the comunity in 2, with people liking a certain forum feature in ur comunity and other people in the base' comunity.
what does this lead to ?
that if somebody asks an interesting question his chances to be answered are proportional to the number of users, that makes it halving the divulgative/educational efficiency
Eventually it will be the XSI community that will profit.
if you want to do this for the comunity (and not for a wish of fame and to get a reputation over the web) do something that will help the comunity, start a scripting comunity or a content sharing comunity.
making a site is only half (if not less) of the work, most of it is in getting the right people and attitude into it, if http+asp (or php or perl or whatever u prefer) was enough to make a comunity we'd have thousands of excellent comunities and not a few tenths of barely decent comunity and less then 10 decent places.
And yes, it would be a completely non-profit , free site to promote XSI.
i hope it didn't seem like i'm trying and discouraging you (since that IS NOT my intention at all), what i'm actually trying to do is orienting you in a direction that I think would be better for the comunity (yes, all of the above is obviously enough a very personal opinion).
again my best wishes for whatever this project will become.
wmendez
01-10-2003, 05:55 PM
bvsingh,
I think it's good that you want to create your own forum, We at XSI Base support all other forums as you can see from this link.
http://www.xsibase.com/xsilinks/forums.php
We also have a feedback section for those that wish to voice their opinions or request features.
http://www.xsibase.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=site
Jaco pretty much sums it all up.
Best Wishes.
bvsingh
01-11-2003, 02:36 AM
Hey guys,
You are all very active and ready to help.
And yes, I was never very focussed on forums from the very beginning, it was only a drop in the ocean.
Your points are valid, so now I have a new completely radical Idea for a XSI site. It would be completely different from what have you seen on web.
Thanks,
Hail XSI
Vic3k
01-11-2003, 08:30 AM
i would agree too that the less sites the more efficent it is to learn and find stuff. look at the 3dmax. thousands on thousands of sites. 80% totally useless and not updated for ages. is there need for them? nah. and if everything is concentrated in few places, one doesn't have to search hours of what he needs.
my 2 cents.
ThE_JacO
01-11-2003, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by bvsingh
Hey guys,
You are all very active and ready to help.
And yes, I was never very focussed on forums from the very beginning, it was only a drop in the ocean.
Your points are valid, so now I have a new completely radical Idea for a XSI site. It would be completely different from what have you seen on web.
Thanks,
Hail XSI
i'm glad you accepted the posts for what they were (unbiased suggestions and opinions) and didn't take it personal.
showing to be mature enogugh to elaborate on people's opinions sure goes to your credit man; let us all know when the project gets defined and contact the XSIbase guys, i'm sure they are at least as willing to cooperate as i am.
good luck.
beatoperator
01-12-2003, 03:43 PM
well, Vic3k u must know that seems like max is the most popular 3d app... and why? it just because heaps of sites with different kinda tutorials, models, etc, etc... you can find almost everything and learn 3dsmax very fast... and, yes there is tons of stupid thing, but hey - that's how whole internet is isn't it? :cool:
I agree in 'quality, not quantity' attitude, but expanding XSI community smartly is not anything bad. different people will bring different stuff, thinkings and refreshs community...
...after all, as most people said, it does not have to be just 'yet another forum' thing.
:beer:
piajartist
01-13-2003, 05:51 AM
Originally posted by Atyss
[B Too much scattered resources is not profitable for the user that search for them, as he has too much sites to check.
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As long as those sites cover ALL of the rescources online.
bvsingh
01-18-2003, 01:42 AM
Hello guys,
Actually I wanted some advice on the choice of features that you would like to have in a high quality one-stop XSI only site.
Mention some of the features you like on the web (might be an idea from any site on the web , not necessarily CG).
Afterall, it would be a community that will enrich the site.
So , dont't shy away write about any or all feature you would like to have.
Bye.
HAIL XSI.
-knowledgeable members, if you don't get them on there it won't last
-no filler threads posted by the host (some unsuccessful sites demonstrate this)
-thread title saves with short cut dragndrop of webpage like on highend and here so you can drag topic you'd like to go back to into a folder or save them in favourites, xsibase doesn't do this yet :P but Raffael is working on it :)
ThE_JacO
01-19-2003, 03:01 AM
1 quality of the comunity.
i could love a shabby site with top notch ideas contributed by knowledgable members, i couldn't stand even the best designed site exclusively hosted on an OC45 if it had annoying members.
2 take care of it
forsaken sites are soooo freaken annoying
3 gallery and eventually user subdomains as main feature
there still seem to be no XSIonly gallery sites, not gallery centric at least for sure.
Would also be great for some members to be able to get a subdomain hosted site, something like 3dluvr.
be warned that means MASSIVE bandwidth and storage usage
bvsingh
01-19-2003, 08:00 AM
Holla guys,
Now the features have started rolling.
Now, keep them coming.
Hail XSI.
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