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saxell
01-09-2003, 10:38 AM
Lets say i got two nurbs surfaces , a plane to which i projected a circular curve and trimed a hole , the other one is a tube.
Now i want to do a blend surface in between, I can make it look god , almost perfect but the problem is that if I add for example a noise to the object I can clearly see that the surfaces are not realy connected, they go apart.
Anybody got a solution for this??

Is-boset
01-09-2003, 10:44 AM
if you send a pic could be help to understan better your problem:D

saxell
01-09-2003, 11:02 AM
The top one is fine and the bottom one is with noise added just to show the surfaces are not attached properly
http://home.online.no/~mik-saxe/blend1.jpg

megaflaizer
01-09-2003, 08:38 PM
youve stumbled across a major NURBS problem - trunking

in nurbs you cannot trunk effectively without using trims and blends.

did you know that in trimming a surface, its actually just a ender trick. thats why you can still see the isoparms of the underlying surface. the trimmed hole [that sounds pornographic] is actually justa curve on surface.

soulution: subd

saxell
01-09-2003, 08:58 PM
In other words this cant be done :(
I did increase the mergespinner in the toplevel and it helped but not good enough.
Do i have to give up now and go to subd again damit, i heard that nurbs should be such a powerfull tool but id like to know what its usefull for if anybody knows

megaflaizer
01-09-2003, 09:35 PM
nurbs is useful in designs that dont need to transfrom much or uniformly across their topologies. :applause:

i used to use it a lot in product design, cause you could cut holes for buttons and then use the trim curves to make the buttons themselves, trim fenders for cars, etc.

i found it a pain in the ass for organic ANIMATED models

theres a lot of old schoolers who wont let go of their indigos [sgi] who will curse me for saying this. evolve or die.

ps still good for product design

ps i dont know that what ur saying cant be done. im just saying, personally, i would use subd

saxell
01-09-2003, 09:54 PM
Thanks a lot
Ill continue learning nurbs modeling and use it for non animated stuff cause i actualy like it :)
What i meant by it cant be done was that i cant use a noise modifier like i tried on the pics above.

ToddD
01-10-2003, 12:30 AM
Saxell, you will soon come to find that max nurbs have a lot of shortcomings, if you plan on sticking with nurbs modeling, you may want to consider implementing other software. Just my 2 cents

:beer:

saxell
01-10-2003, 04:10 AM
Nah i wont go that far with nurbs , thing is that i want to give myself more choices when im gona model something, and i wanna be able to use as much of max as possible.

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