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mynewcat
05-23-2006, 11:15 PM
Sorry if this aint news, but it's news to me.

Come see the Casino Royale Trailer (http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/casinoroyale.html)


It's good to see Bond kicking the crap out of everyone it makes me proud to be English.

Also, people who were slating Daniel Craig as the new Bond - eat your words.

TumikSmacker
05-24-2006, 05:34 AM
I love Bond movies. Whenever I see the trailer though I keep thinking it'll be the next 'On her Majestys Secret Service'...

itsallgoode9
05-24-2006, 07:38 AM
wow, I thought that was GREAT trailer for a bond movie. I really hope they don't go so far out there as to be cheesy, as they seemed to have done progressively with each Brosnan Bond flick. I love Bond films, but the past couple have tried to be TOO much in my opinion. This trailer really looks great! More realistic-ish while sitll having that Bond persona. I'm really hoping for somthing that is more fantasy than the Bourne Identity and less fantasy than the past few bonds movies....for me that'd be a perfect mix!

I'm honestly suprised they didn't wait longer to make this one since there is a new Bond in it. It'll be interesting to see how the current movie-going public accepts the abrupt change of the main character. I'll be seeing it regardless of how the end result is, but I hope it has the same feel as this trailer does. Wow.

ClayCox
05-24-2006, 07:45 AM
wow, I thought that was GREAT trailer for a bond movie. I really hope they don't go so far out there as to be cheesy, as they seemed to have done progressively with each Brosnan Bond flick. I love Bond films, but the past couple have tried to be TOO much in my opinion. This trailer really looks great! More realistic-ish while sitll having that Bond persona. I'm really hoping for somthing that is more fantasy than the Bourne Identity and less fantasy than the past few bonds movies....for me that'd be a perfect mix!

You've read my mind, I completely agree. I've made the same arguement in the last week to whoever will listen.

beaker
05-24-2006, 07:56 AM
wow, I thought that was GREAT trailer for a bond movie. I really hope they don't go so far out there as to be cheesy, as they seemed to have done progressively with each Brosnan Bond flick.Did you watch any of the Roger Moore or Sean Connery Bond movies? They are all cheesy. Thats what made Austin Powers so funny because James Bond bad guys actually wore suits like that and had bond girls named like "Pussy Galore" and "Kissy Suzuki" and bad guys named "Jaws".

dalmanna
05-24-2006, 08:05 AM
Did you watch any of the Roger Moore or Sean Connery Bond movies? They are all cheesy. Thats what made Austin Powers so funny because James Bond bad guys actually wore suits like that and had bond girls named like "Pussy Galore" and "Kissy Suzuki" and bad guys named "Jaws".

blasphemer!!!........ yes this is true but nothing was more cheesy than the last one not even cheese

leigh
05-24-2006, 08:06 AM
I also thought it was a good trailer when I saw it the other day at the cinema. It actually looks quite stylish. I'll definitely be going to see it.

Having said that though, I agree with Beaker. What I love about the old Bond films is that they're so incredibly cheesy - especially the ones with Roger Moore. I mean, remember the scene in Live and Let Die where he ran across the alligators heads? Priceless! And the Jaws guy.... what modern film has dared to have such an over-the-top villain? And let's not forget all the tacky one-liners and love scenes... Sadly that kind of cheese isn't really all that appreciated anymore though.

leigh
05-24-2006, 08:32 AM
blasphemer!!!........ yes this is true but nothing was more cheesy than the last one not even cheese

The last film wasn't cheesy, it was just crap. At least cheese is entertaining.

mynewcat
05-24-2006, 09:10 AM
I also thought it was a good trailer when I saw it the other day at the cinema. It actually looks quite stylish. I'll definitely be going to see it.

Having said that though, I agree with Beaker. What I love about the old Bond films is that they're so incredibly cheesy - especially the ones with Roger Moore. I mean, remember the scene in Live and Let Die where he ran across the alligators heads? Priceless! And the Jaws guy.... what modern film has dared to have such an over-the-top villain? And let's not forget all the tacky one-liners and love scenes... Sadly that kind of cheese isn't really all that appreciated anymore though.


Personally thats what I dont like about Bond - I like that he brings a bit of class to the art and craft of assasination.

I dont understand why people have to get hold of franchises and then make it over the top - take Batman for example - a brooding dark knight - so why did the 60s series and the latter (excepting Batman begins) movies have to go out of their way to ridicule it or turn it Kitsch?

If you need to make that kind of show or movie, dont choose a licence that is not suited at all.


It's like turning Superman into some crappy Dawson's Creek-esque teen romance show... ooopps..... :)

itsallgoode9
05-24-2006, 09:51 AM
Did you watch any of the Roger Moore or Sean Connery Bond movies? They are all cheesy. Thats what made Austin Powers so funny because James Bond bad guys actually wore suits like that and had bond girls named like "Pussy Galore" and "Kissy Suzuki" and bad guys named "Jaws".

oh yeah, i have seen pretty much all of the bond movies.....although not all. Yeah, I agree that stuff was cheesy, in a good way though (in my opinion) I think Goldeneye had the EXACT spirit of those, but each one after that got more and more into trying to go over the top of the previous one (in a bad way)....I don't really know how to explain what I'm thinking..here's a generic example about how I feel the direction of the recent bond movies went.....we'll name the fictitional movie....."Justin's Big Day" (had to throw my name in there :-P )

1st movie: Justin's Big Day
2nd movie: Justin's Super Big Day
3rd movie: Justin's Mega Super Ultra Big Day
4th movie: Megalord Justin's Ultra Funky Fresh Super Ultra Big Day
5th movie: Justin Goode and the P Funk All-stars!

(Sorry, had to put some random dry humor in the end....George Clintion Rocks!! )

I'm not sure if that even makes sense cause i'm trying to figure out how to explain my thoughts......Just one of those things. If i'm missing on making a coherent thought, tell me and i'll try to explain better lol........and if i'm out in left field, tell me to shut up :thumbsup:


The last film wasn't cheesy, it was just crap. At least cheese is entertaining. yeah

DDS
05-24-2006, 09:54 AM
hey that villain that jumps over the construction/warehouse/whatever zone is pretty cool! It reminds me of older James Bond movies, maybe they are returning to the classics, which is always good...

I agree that Goldeneye was the only Pierce Brosnan James Bond movie that was worth the cinema ticket...pretty dark movie it was :twisted:

MasterZap
05-24-2006, 11:40 AM
The one "true" Bond: George Lazenby

/Z

leigh
05-24-2006, 12:18 PM
The one "true" Bond: George Lazenby

/Z

Dude. Don't go there.

lukx
05-24-2006, 12:48 PM
The one "true" Bond: George Lazenby

/Z
NO! it was Sir Sean Connery :)

Papa Lazarou
05-24-2006, 01:00 PM
Still not sold on it. I thought Bond movies were supposed to have exotic locations, and here we have him hopping around a construction site and practicing his 007 spin around in the men's room mirror.

On the upside, uglyboy Craig makes Dame Judi seem kinda hot.

grrinc
05-24-2006, 01:11 PM
Daniel Craig took a load of crap before anyone even saw a frame of the movie - shameful I say. Anyway, I reckon Pierce looked a bit dated to me. Too 80's with a bit of medallion man thrown in for good measure. He had to go, and so did the writers; the invisible car was the second to last nail in the coffin for me.

I have been hoping this would a turning point for Bond Movies - the clip looks impressive - but only time will tell.

John-S
05-24-2006, 06:37 PM
My final blow was when they

1. put holly berry in it (although I like her in xmen)
2. I can't quite remember but I thought he was surfing on a piece of something with a parachoot on??? What ever part that was....AWEFUL!

New bond looks cool. Having a bit of a hard time with the actor seeming so different then all the other bonds but then again...

Remington Steele anyone??? LOL

JeroenDStout
05-24-2006, 06:59 PM
Me and a friend keep calling the new Bond "Alfred", "Hans" or other German names and make him say his catchphrases with horrible German-English accents - I think he looks horribly un-British and quite horrible even if you overlook the horrible un-Britishness.

Then again, that's <cynic stab here> for you.

rock
05-25-2006, 05:02 AM
Bond is becoming more and more Rambo-like with each film - he should be more stealth-like.

deadplant155
05-25-2006, 05:24 PM
The one "true" Bond: George Lazenby

/Z
oh my good lord. please be joking.

incidentally, 'on her majesty's secret service' was the only bond movie where the new bond made a self referential comment about the fact that he was a new bond. in the intro after the girl runs into the ocean george says "this never happened to that other chap" or something of that nature, presumably referring to sean connery as james bond.

WilburLoyd
06-17-2006, 07:52 AM
The Living Daylights is my favorite Bond film. The movie had the typical action sequences, gee whiz gadgets, and exotic locals, but the overall story was plausible. Dalton's Bond had class, professionalism, and enough heart to be human. The lone love interest was beautiful, but not overly sexualized. She even had a realistic career as a professional musician. I like how their relationship progresses through the film. She is more of the damsel in distress than the vamp or vixen from other Bond films. John Barry's score was epic. It's still the only James Bond soundtrack I have owned.

Hopefully the new Bond will be more like The Living Daylights and less like Die Another Day or Moonraker.

kmest
06-18-2006, 10:41 AM
incidentally, 'on her majesty's secret service' was the only bond movie where the new bond made a self referential comment about the fact that he was a new bond


and it was the only movie which Bond got married:surprised

Crimsonstring
06-18-2006, 09:11 PM
I think he looks horribly un-British and quite horrible even if you overlook the horrible un-Britishness.

Indeed!

And the guy doesn't look like a lady charmer. He's missing one of the essential parts that are under "Bond" in the dictionary of characters.

jewalker
06-19-2006, 08:42 PM
Me and a friend keep calling the new Bond "Alfred", "Hans" or other German names and make him say his catchphrases with horrible German-English accents - I think he looks horribly un-British and quite horrible even if you overlook the horrible un-Britishness.

Then again, that's <cynic stab here> for you.

Horribly un-British? From IMDB:

"Daniel Craig was born in 1968 in Chester, England. He grew up in Liverpool, England and moved to London, England when he was 16."

How do you get more British?

JeroenDStout
06-19-2006, 10:29 PM
In movies, it's not about the facts, but about the appearance :wise: and this man does not fit the gentleman adventurer Brit idiom.

shuggie
06-20-2006, 01:24 AM
Hmm I just watched the trailer, the action looks decent, will be interesting to see what they will do with the parkour theme, is anyone else getting shades of Derek Zoolander in that final shot?

zzacmann
06-20-2006, 06:46 AM
I noticed that much of the beginning of the trailer is in black and white and it kind of made me want it to be that way in the film as well. I wish they'd go in just a completely different direction with Craig. Make it really dark with some Sin City-like visuals. At least it was shot like a comic book, some of the over-the-top action might fit in a little better with the rest of the film.

Okay, not necessarily Sin City-like, but go in completely different direction kind of like Batman Returns. They should do a Bond that doesnt base itself on any of the novels but follows bond in his early years training and becoming a double 0 agent. It could still be cheesy and tongue-in-cheek, but at least it would be something completely different than the typical bad-guy-billionaire-tries-to-take-over-the-world-with-a-new-secret-dooms-day-device-and-bond-saves-the-day-and-the-girl-at-the-very-last-second plotline from every previous film.

Digit
06-20-2006, 07:01 AM
In movies, it's not about the facts, but about the appearance :wise: and this man does not fit the gentleman adventurer Brit idiom.

I see what you mean, but I disagree. I mean, I am British, and would not be able to tell you what a Brit adventurer looks like. He certainly wouldnt look like Pierce Brosnan anyway! I think Craig looks pretty cool as Bond. I would like to have high hopes for the film but really theyve been flogging this dead horse of a series for decades. Well, lets hope its a good film anyway...

newman
06-20-2006, 07:42 AM
The one "true" Bond: George Lazenby

/Z

Read the posting rules, mate:
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AlyFell
06-20-2006, 08:17 AM
I see what you mean, but I disagree. I mean, I am British, and would not be able to tell you what a Brit adventurer looks like.

A typical Brit Adventurer, Sir Richard F Burton...

http://www.isidore-of-seville.com/burton/burton2.gif

Or maybe you'd prefer Richard Branson.... :rolleyes:

I think Daniel Craig actually looks far more like Flemings Bond than any of the others, but it's the blonde hair that is a problem for me. Fleming decribes Bond as having black hair with a strand that always flops down over his forehead. Personally, Lazenby wasn't a bad Bond at all; the film is probably one of the best Bond movies, it's just Lazenbys obviously dubbed voice that seems silly.

ManuelM
06-20-2006, 08:53 AM
i was sceptical about daniel craig, until i saw him in "layer cake".
he really shows acting talent in that role and although he plays a drug dealer, many scenes with him actually made me think they could be from a bond movie.
i'm looking forward to it. let's give him a chance.

and i agree - whoever came up with the idea of that invisible car should never be allowed to contribute to the script of any movie again.

mustique
06-20-2006, 09:06 AM
007 films are getting worse than "Police Academy"

Bond always used to say: "If you kill me they'll send 008"

Who's the underdog called 008 that never gets the spot!?

Why not start a "008" series?

Nobody ever could match Sean Connery anyway in the role of Bond.

Kill the 007 legend and start a new one from scratch.

Let the successor take over the save-the-world show.

That would make me much more curious.

That would make much more money too :twisted:

Mojo Rizen
06-20-2006, 04:23 PM
Iíve watched Bond movies for years. It started when I was a kid in the 70s (you do the math). They are on heavy rotation on one of the cable channels in the States. What I enjoy most about the 60s movies that got lost in the 80s was the look and feel.

All the Bond movies have gadgets, but in the 60s they were more believable. You have to suspend believe a bit, but there still has to be that plausible idea out there that these things could exists.

If you look into the art of being a spy from say 1950-1970 and the tools used, then look at some of the Bond gadgets (not all of them) it can make the leap. Itís that gadget that canít save the world by itís self, but needs to be used by an intelligent spy that makes things work.

As for the black and white start, do a Bond flick set back in the 60s, in black and white, and use the true spy technology at that time, with a good story, now that would be worth seeing.

No cheese, drive an Aston Martin, toss that hat to the hat rack as a nod to the past, but otherwise give it a good look and feel.

I can see it in my head, now can a good producer and production company take the chance and go there? That is the question.

WilburLoyd
06-20-2006, 04:58 PM
How about a PREQUEL with 001 taking place during the early 1940's? 001's mission could be stopping the Nazis from establishing a foot hold in Latin America. Their diabolical plan could include setting up V2 launch bases in striking distance of US oil production facilities along the gulf and west coasts. The Nazis would also use the locals as slave labor while intimidating the corrupt local governments.


Of course, 001 would save the day while romancing a beautiful local girl and rallying her oppressed comrades to overthrow the intruders. He could have gadgets like explosive Zippo lighters and a blow gun that looks like a cigarette.


For the climax, 001 could head off a hastily launched V2 by ramming it with a biplane and his trusty Zippo. He would parachute to safety landing in his lovers arms as the parachute falls around them. It could be filmed in Noir style.

Mojo Rizen
06-20-2006, 05:07 PM
I could work with that. If you start with 001 it can give some background into the 00 formation, uses, etc.

To me a good spy movie is a thinking man (used as a term, my sister would make a great spy, I refuse to change the term to obey the PC Police) type of movie. You may not find out itís a Nazi movement until 3/4 of the way into the movie. Then other things happening early in the movie would click into place.

Iím getting a gritty feeling. 00 born out of necessity and underground before things are refined and itís made public.

heavyness
06-20-2006, 05:10 PM
well 006 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113189/) was in Goldeneye, so the possibilities are there for other double O's. personally, i like the new Bond. i think it would be very hard to make a bad 007 movie.

smart ass, butt kicking 007, stick-up the ass boss, crazy old guy making gadgets, and beautiful lady. throw in some bombs, chases, and explosions and film an opening title screen with naked women and you got yourself a 007 movie.

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