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Rebeccak
05-28-2006, 10:23 PM
plaf,

No problem! Acrylics can be tough to work with, but can be made easier with a few tips.

Acrylic Painting Tips:

The first thing is that you might try using colored gesso, instead of normal acrylics, to coat your board or canvas before painting. They sell colored gesso in small or large bottles (it's a bit expensive, but a small bottle should last for several canvases, depending on size). Try getting a burnt umber / whatever type of medium to dark brown that they sell. Gesso is best applied with a porous black sponge brush such as they sell at art or hardware stores.

Secondly when starting out with acrylics it's best to try a limited palette. The colors for a limited palette are listed below.

Limited Palette Colors:

Recommended Acrylic Brand: Liquitex (http://www.dickblick.com/zz006/17/)

Recommended type of Acrylics: Acrylics that come in jars, not tubes ~ they have better viscocity (smoothness):

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Acrylic%20Painting%20Tips/acrylic-jar.jpg

For those of you working with Acrylic Paint, here are a few tips which I hope you will find useful:

Acrylic Painting Tips:


The first thing is that you might try using colored gesso, instead of normal acrylics, to coat your board or canvas before painting. They sell colored gesso in small or large bottles (it's a bit expensive, but a small bottle should last for several canvases, depending on size). Try getting a burnt umber / whatever type of medium to dark brown that they sell. Gesso is best applied with a porous black sponge brush such as they sell at art or hardware stores.

Secondly when starting out with acrylics it's best to try a limited palette. The colors for a limited palette are listed below.

Limited Palette Colors:

Recommended Acrylic Brand: Liquitex (http://www.dickblick.com/zz006/17/)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Acrylic%20Painting%20Tips/01_white.jpg Titanium White
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Acrylic%20Painting%20Tips/02_yellow-ochre.jpg Yellow Ochre (or Lemon Yellow)
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Acrylic%20Painting%20Tips/02B_cadmium-red-medium.jpg Cadmium Red Medium
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Acrylic%20Painting%20Tips/03_alizarin-crimson.jpg Alizarin Crimson
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Acrylic%20Painting%20Tips/04_viridian-green.jpg Viridian Green (or Pthalo Green)
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Acrylic%20Painting%20Tips/05_ultramarine-blue.jpg Ultramarine Blue
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Acrylic%20Painting%20Tips/06_burnt-sienna.jpg Burnt Sienna
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Acrylic%20Painting%20Tips/07_burnt-umber.jpg Burnt Umber (or Raw Umber)
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Acrylic%20Painting%20Tips/08_black.jpg Black (Note: It's best to mix your black, see below)

Really it is most advisable to mix your black from: Alizarin Crimson, Ultramarine Blue, Viridian Green, and Burnt Umber. Experiment a bit to see what gives you the best result, but generally speaking you want roughly equal quantities of each in the mix.

Use white VERY sparingly ~ as I mentioned earlier, use yellow ochre for highlight areas at first.

Materials (Click for links to images):

>>Paints<<: See above list for limited palette colors.

>>White Gesso<<: (http://www.dickblick.com/zz006/23a/) For priming your painting surface, unless you purchase a preprimed surface, such as treated canvas.

>>Colored Gesso (Burnt Sienna, Burnt Umber)<<: (http://www.liquitex.com/Products/images/surfaceprep/color_gesso_info.jpg) For priming your canvas, or even for painting.

>>Brushes<<: (http://www.dickblick.com/zz053/96a/) A variety of flat bristled synthetic brushes is best. As a student I used long red handled "University" brushes, though they may not make them anymore nor sell them in your area.

>>Sponge Brush<<: (http://gvdesigns.co.uk/images/sp%20brush.jpg) A wide black sponge brush to coat your canvas with either colored brown gesso or brown acrylic paint.

>>Small Bucket for Water<<: (http://www.craftamerica.com/images/products/6545_pail_galvanized.jpg) Of course you need a bucket for water. Get something solid that won't tip over easily and is small enough for your work area.

>>Palette<<: (http://www.dickblick.com/zz030/00/) A great palette is a ceramic butcher's tray which they should sell in art stores. A butcher's tray is great because paint scrapes off of it easily with a flat razor blade with a handle for safety. It is also great because the raised sides keep water on the palette.

>>A razor blade with a safety handle<< (http://www.dickblick.com/zz574/28/) is great for scraping your palette clean periodically to make room for more paint.

>>A spray water bottle<< (http://www.gssdist.com/SB910.gif) to spray / keep your acrylics moist.

Paper towels: Fold a sheet of paper towel in thirds or quarters and spritz it liberally with water. This keeps your acrylics moist as well as adheres the paper towel to the butcher tray / palette. After you have liberally moistened (but not soaked) your paper towel at one of the narrow ends of the butcher tray, lay your dabs of paint on top, starting with White and progressing to Black (see colors list above).

>>Saran Wrap / plastic wrap<< (http://shopuncleharrys.dukestores.duke.edu/images/Missing%20One%2010%2006%2005%20001.jpg): If you have globs of acrylic paint left over on the paper towel at the end of your painting session, spritz your paints and then cover the whole tray with plastic wrap and store in the fridge til your next session. To easily remove mixed paint from the exposed butcher tray, just spritz the tray and scrape it down with your razor blade, wiping the excess on a paper towel.

General rules of painting of any kind are to work from dark to light, and 'fat on lean'.

1. Working Dark to Light:

Coat your canvas with a burnt umber or other brown acrylic gesso with a lightly wet sponge brush, allow that to dry. You may want to give your canvas 2 coats, but don't build the surface too thick. Allow each coat to dry thoroughly (this will dry faster if canvas is placed in the sun). Alternately you can coat your canvas with burnt sienna or burnt umber acrylic paint. Giving your canvas this brown coat gives you an automatic midtone, and you don't have to work so hard to achieve them.

Gradually build your values using yellow ochre for your lights, and a mixed black for darks.

2. Working 'Fat on Lean':

Working 'Fat on Lean' just means not to build your paint too thickly. Work 'Lean' at first, using water to thin your paint (though of course not too much, use your best judgement for this). As you build your surface and your painting progresses, gradually use thicker paint, but don't slather it on ~ again, use your best judgement and build your painting organically.

I know that this is a lot of information, but it should help!

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

paperclip
05-29-2006, 01:06 AM
Excellent post, becca! Very informative and I read it through a couple of times to make sure I noted everything down in this tiny brain of mine. Thanks for writing that for us!

I have a question! If colored gesso isn't easily available, what's the next best option?

Rebeccak
05-29-2006, 01:23 AM
I have a question! If colored gesso isn't easily available, what's the next best option?
Clippy, if you can't find colored gesso, regular acrylic paint in burnt sienna or burnt umber is fine. Burnt Sienna is a preferable color because it is a bit luminous and you are able to see a bit of white through the paint, when the canvas is coated in thinned down, transparent layers. It tends to give a nice glow to the painting when some is left peeking through the color laid on top, and nicely complements the tints and shades of most hues.

I've edited the above post to include links to pictures of the various materials I've mentioned.

I've created a thread with the above Acrylic Painting Tips should anyone wish to refer to them in the future:

Acrylic Painting Tips (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3589608#post3589608)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3589608#post3589608


Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Zephyri
05-29-2006, 03:32 AM
Been keeping half an eye on this thread since it started, and I cannot believe how much has been done already! Dan Silverman, that you got such a quality piece out so fast is amazing! And zhu's work, as ever, is gorgeous.
Paperclip - that piece is really coming on gorgeously, you've got all the subtle colours well, and they all read well, a great piece!
Mazalo - lovely textural feel to that piece, would be good to see some more work from you!

Rebecca - I've painted minatures in acrylic for the past 6 years and managed to get my pallette down to a basic 7 colours that do me for pretty much everything, excepting certain colours that pop up from time to time: titanium white, raw umber, ultramarine blue, sap green, crimson red, yellow ochre, lemon yellow. I might change the red to alizarin crimson, or the green to veridian or pthalo green if i need to, but it is amazing how little you need colour wise, to get a full painting.

It's also really great to see some traditional painting in a variety of media this time round. And as we already have pastels and acrylic, I'm going to add to the fray by using oils. Here's my first step, a gessoed piece of wood board (that actually had a half finished painting on it already - hooray for recycling), that I sanded, gessoed again, then washed with a pale mix of ultramarine (mixed with a little more gesso). I'll more than likely start with a acrylic base and work the smoother texture in with oils, for time's sake. The board is approx. 19" x 12". (please excuse shoddy photograph!)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/peltmerchant1.jpg

Rebeccak
05-29-2006, 03:37 AM
Zeph,

Fantastic to see you doing an oil painting! I quite agree, I personally love the mix of digital and traditional, and would love to see more Traditional work here. :)

Please add any and all useful tips to this thread if you have the time! :)

Acrylic Painting Tips (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3589608#post3589608)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3589608#post3589608

Also I would love if you would document your process for this piece and ultimately create your own independent Tutorial for working in oil on this OFDW. If this is too much, please don't worry, it's entirely a request! :) It's fantastic to have you aboard, and I greatly look forward to seeing this piece develop! :thumbsup:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Ego
05-29-2006, 04:35 AM
Wow! looks like I slept and woke up in heaven! Look at all these traditional tutorials in here.
Awesome!

zhuzhu
05-29-2006, 04:40 AM
nice work everyone~!


try watercolor on paper, have fun but a little bit lost cortrol.


http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/686/7849an.jpg

daWinky
05-29-2006, 05:33 AM
Morning everyone!

Great to see the traditional approaches here, I'm looking forward to watch the developing...
Queensoul: Your finished Bashi is amazing, nice new avatar btw...
Paperclip: This Mona is very convincing, sooo near to the original...
Becca: The queen of values, just stunning...
mazalo: Your finished Sorolla looks great, I would also like to see a bigger version...

I'm slowly losing patience now with head and face, little update here

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/daWinky/Black_Bashi-Bazouk_wip08.jpg

-sabrina

Skjoldbroder
05-29-2006, 07:20 AM
Rebecca: I can't thank you enough for the effort you're putting into this, those acrylic tips are really really great stuff! Big thanks and a hug on top! ^_^
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http://www.skjoldbroder.dk/fisse/monkeee.jpg

botched
05-29-2006, 09:16 AM
botched,

Welcome aboard! This is a beautiful drawing...what is your art training / background? :)

Thanks Rebeccak! My "formal" training consisted of the illustration program at San Jose State... and I've been illustrating off and on for the last ten years...

Here's today's progress.
http://www.botched.com/sketches/20060529_sketch2.jpg
2.5 hours... rendering in progress.

zhay13
05-29-2006, 09:16 AM
WOW, so many artist trying to become better is a really dificult thing to see, this is GREAT, and you Rebeccak and this forum made it, congratulations :applause:

Now to my nesxt step, i keep correcting the drawing, the proportions of everithing,etc...



Step 6: Almost finished the foots and drapery, the left part of the background is going nice, but is dificult to recreate the texture of the oil,brush and impasto with photoshop, the next time i going to make it with real oil`s on canvas (that is the medium that i feel better to work :)), now i have to concentrate in the foreground, c-you soon.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/zhay13/paso6.jpg

krispee
05-29-2006, 09:25 AM
zhuzhu: have fun but a little bit lost cortrol well, maybe, but it still works really well, i think you did a great job considering that watercolour is hard to handle, you can clearly see the original in there and the colours are lovely.....

botched: great start, will look out for this.....

dawinky: love the head gear and the head, smooth but a little painterly as well, love the little lines you`ve put in....

kris

paperclip
05-29-2006, 09:49 AM
Man, there's so much beautiful stuff, here, I become overwhelmed with passion. :cry: :love: Why do people not have this passion in the art schools? Are they all hidden away in corners or something?

zephyri: great sketch! Good proportions, now just lay down some colors already!

Dawinky: coming along well! The colors seem a bit too muddy in the face though, try zooming in closer to the original and seeing exactly what colors there are in the original.

botched: :eek: :love: I love your crisp sketching/shading style! Is there any way you could do a tutorial just on that for us? How come illustrators seem to produce such beautiful line art? Show us!

Zhay: This is really getting there- something bugs me about the top left though, maybe it's a values thing? Check it against the original?

Eh, I forgot the very question I posted to ask! Ok, when working with acrylics, is it best to put down the colored gesso first, then the pencil/charcoal sketch, fix the charcoal, then paint over that? Or..?

Rebeccak
05-29-2006, 09:59 AM
Wow, some beautiful work being produced! :bounce:

Too tired to post individual replies atm, but will certainly do so tomorrow. :)

For now, he's a really slight update (mostly worked on the cloth and fixed the ear a bit):

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20017/OFDW-017_comp-14.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20017/OFDW-017_comp-14B.jpg

Keep up the amazing work, guys! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Ego
05-29-2006, 10:03 AM
Superb update Becca; The ear fixing makes a big difference too. Now get some sleep!

YMS
05-29-2006, 10:38 AM
Here's my update on Zorn's Mona - hope it's not too much of a travesty :)

I will admit to being out of my depth with reproducing it, but it's a learning experience so I will persevere. (It's at this late stage that I see my "head" is too big compared to the original-still working to get a resemblance with the face.)


http://spacific.net.nz/yms/Mona_7.jpg

paperclip
05-29-2006, 11:20 AM
YMS, I think you need to make your darks a bit darker in the background...

Mu
05-29-2006, 11:34 AM
botched,

that is exactly the kind of shading style in a drawing that I am after at the moment. It looks brilliant and sensual...

My main problem is, how can you transfer this intricate hatches into digital media? I dont have a scanner at home, so working digitally helps me to easier contribute to workshops like these... That's why I am asking.

I feel that with Painter's 2b simulation apart from the actual line quality, which I think is fine, I find myself struggling to achieve a similar control over low-pressure strokes. Brush tracking does not get me the results I am after.

Anyone any thoughts on this?

EDIT: oh, and while I am at it,
botched: do you go to and fro with your hatched lines or only in one direction?
thanks for reading....:)

http://www.botched.com/sketches/20060529_sketch2.jpg

DiM
05-29-2006, 11:59 AM
Hi all! After a two-day break one more hour of painting :)
http://dimm3d.mail333.com/baron_test/mk7.jpg

maxetormer
05-29-2006, 04:27 PM
Ill try to do more of this, funny enought I did this copy from one of the
photos yu have as reference here before reading about this place :P
so I guess is ok to post my study, ill do some color stuff as well!! this looks
both like a challenge and fun!

Charcoal + Water
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/maxetormer/nudeonechalK.jpg

DiM
05-29-2006, 04:59 PM
Next hour of detalization,

http://dimm3d.mail333.com/baron_test/mk_8.jpg

Rebeccak
05-29-2006, 06:07 PM
Gah! Bashi is killing me! :D

Update, so I can comment: ;)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20017/OFDW-017_comp-15.jpg

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

MechaHateChimp
05-29-2006, 06:25 PM
http://joelcarlo.net/temp/images/illustrations/ofdw/ofdw-017_sketch-05.jpg

Update: Painting tiger fur has got to be the absolute most mind numbing thing anyone could ever want to paint... ever.

I'm going to try to finish this thing today before I lose my freakin mind and decide to throw it into my ever growing folder of projects that will never see the light of day.

Rebecca: looks like its coming along nicely!

Rebeccak
05-29-2006, 06:31 PM
zhuzhu,

Always great to see you here! Will you be working on another version?

Sabie,

Thanks so much! You're progressing nicely, the softness of the face is becoming wonderfully convincing. I think a few more highlights and areas of dark will really help to give the face a wonderful rich glow and velvetty texture. :)

Originally posted by plaf: Rebecca: I can't thank you enough for the effort you're putting into this, those acrylic tips are really really great stuff! Big thanks and a hug on top! ^_^
plaf, you're very welcome! I enjoyed doing it, so it's no problem! :)

Originally posted by botched: Thanks Rebeccak! My "formal" training consisted of the illustration program at San Jose State... and I've been illustrating off and on for the last ten years...
botched, your piece is looking fantastic! I took a look at your blog, it's a great site ~ and huge thanks for the link! :) I really enjoyed seeing your Illustration work, I can tell you're a fan of Dave McKean, one of my favorite artists. A graduate of my school was Matt Mahurin, I'm wondering if you've ever heard of his work? He does work that is a bit influenced by McKean, very surreal and dreamy ~ he did some of the interesting Metallica videos back in the 90's, there's a very cool look to his work, worth checking out!

Originally posted by zhay13: WOW, so many artist trying to become better is a really dificult thing to see, this is GREAT, and you Rebeccak and this forum made it, congratulations
zhay13, thanks so much! The forum has certainly been growing, and it's exciting to see the OFDW's getting the attention they deserve ~ some really fantastic work has been produced in these, if you have not already seen the SPOTLIGHTED work from previous OFDWs, definitely take a look if you get the chance! :)

Links to all Open Figure Drawing Workshop SPOTLIGHT threads: (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=347012)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=347012

Your piece is looking fantastic! I love the texture and the overall cohesion of your work so far. Keep up the good work! ^_^

Originally posted by paperclip: Man, there's so much beautiful stuff, here, I become overwhelmed with passion. Why do people not have this passion in the art schools? Are they all hidden away in corners or something?
Heh, it just depends on the school, but I think we're all fortunate to have an alternate resource these days. :)

Ok, when working with acrylics, is it best to put down the colored gesso first, then the pencil/charcoal sketch, fix the charcoal, then paint over that? Or..?
Yep, you always want to Gesso your board / canvas / painting surface first. Gesso is just a base coat, like a primer. (You can use colored (brown) gesso to save yourself the step of gessoing with white then coating the dried surface with a brown acrylic painting layer). Once your gesso dries, then it's best to create a pencil or charcoal sketch overtop. No need to fix the charcoal. Then, once your drawing is established, start to establish your darks, and work dark to light. :)

Queensoul,

Thanks!

Originally posted by YMS: I will admit to being out of my depth with reproducing it, but it's a learning experience so I will persevere. (It's at this late stage that I see my "head" is too big compared to the original-still working to get a resemblance with the face.)
It doesn't seem you are out of your depth, in fact, I think you are doing beautifully! Her right arm seems just a bit straight at the moment, but I really like how you are bringing everything up / developing everything at the same time. I look forward to your next update!

Originally posted by Mu: I feel that with Painter's 2b simulation apart from the actual line quality, which I think is fine, I find myself struggling to achieve a similar control over low-pressure strokes. Brush tracking does not get me the results I am after.
Anyone any thoughts on this?
Mu, I really think you need to get a more sensitive Wacom tablet. Tools make all the difference when working digitally, and you will spare yourself a lot of frustration if you upgrade to a better tablet.

DiM,

This is looking fantastic, your speed is remarkable!

maxetormer,

Great to see more traditional work here! I would caution you when working with heavy charcoal to really establish the linework / outline to a great degree before going in and laying in heavy marks, unless that is part of the style of the piece. I personally really like markmaking and the works of artists like Jim Dine, whose work you should definitely check out! :)

Mecha,

This is looking great! It's great to see your update!

I'm going to try to finish this thing today before I lose my freakin mind and decide to throw it into my ever growing folder of projects that will never see the light of day.
LOL, just read your comment ~ don't worry, I feel the same way! :D The areas where you've really rendered the fur are looking great!

Keep up the incredible work everybody!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

DigitalSol
05-29-2006, 06:37 PM
Hello all, everyone is doing an amazing job on this OFDW, i have been short of time for paint my entry, because I have lots of work, but here is a little update for mine, sorry for no coment this time but I lost 4 pages, and that would take time, but from now, I will do it, thanks.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Leon%20Master%20Copy1/ofdWi.jpg

Amerasu
05-29-2006, 06:44 PM
Hi Rebecca,

Do I still have time to do something for 017 or is it about to end this week?

I've caught up with work and don't have anything too deadline-ish on my plate right now and thought I'd get some painting done before I have this baby. I don't think I'll have too much free time once she arrives :D

Lots of fabulous work going on here and many new participants too. That's great!

Rebeccak
05-29-2006, 06:46 PM
Enrique,

Great to see your update! :)

Amerasu,

No problem! The Workshop dates are: OFDW 017: May 21 - June 18th, 2006 ~ so you've plenty of time, especially given how fast you work! :D

Can't wait to have you on board this one as well! :thumbsup:

EDIT: I just read the 'baby' bit and did a double~take ~ Wow, that's fantastic, Congratulations!!! :bounce:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Amerasu
05-29-2006, 06:59 PM
Thanks for congrats! And cool, that's plenty of time then. I guess the master copy threads have a longer lifespan; that's great.

I'm going to tackle the 3 head study I think since it's a totally different style for me. I am the worst person for trying paint loose and "painterly" so this will be a big challenge. Let's see how 'loose' I can keep it :)

Beautiful choice of master paintings.

botched
05-29-2006, 07:23 PM
botched,

that is exactly the kind of shading style in a drawing that I am after at the moment. It looks brilliant and sensual...

My main problem is, how can you transfer this intricate hatches into digital media? I dont have a scanner at home, so working digitally helps me to easier contribute to workshops like these... That's why I am asking.

Mu,

Thanks very much!

At this point I'm very much experimenting and just playing around. More than likely, once I have the whole thing rendered in pencil, I'll scan it in and start painting on top (and underneath!) in photoshop. As for the delicate hatches... yeah, I'd like to keep a sense of those through the finished piece... but we'll see how it goes!

As for getting that effect with digital media... I suppose I would take the same sort of approach... layering up slowly with fine lines. I've never really messed with trying to duplicate analog characteristics in the digital realm... but there are plenty out there who do quite well at it!

As far as the direction of my strokes... I try not to be too hap-hazard... I have one primary direction (depending on the image, usually diagonally up) and perphas a few degrees of in either direction to soften things out a bit.

My work is digitally for the most part... but I like starting out with an actual drawing on paper. In the old days I'd xerox my finished drawing on to canson paper, stick it down on illustration paper and try to work up the painting in layers of guache and acrylic... (usually to only slightly satisfactory results). I've never actually completed a fully digital painting in this fashion... so I'm just fumbling my way through here!

Thanks again!

botched, your piece is looking fantastic! I took a look at your blog, it's a great site ~ and huge thanks for the link! I really enjoyed seeing your Illustration work, I can tell you're a fan of Dave McKean, one of my favorite artists. A graduate of my school was Matt Mahurin, I'm wondering if you've ever heard of his work? He does work that is a bit influenced by McKean, very surreal and dreamy ~ he did some of the interesting Metallica videos back in the 90's, there's a very cool look to his work, worth checking out!

Yep! McKean was a big influence on me earlier on... And Yes... I love Mahurin's work.

Most of my illustration work I would consider "old"... and I've been rethinking how I want to approach making images (hence the workshop!)... but thanks!

paperclip
05-29-2006, 07:37 PM
Botched, what kind of pencil/paper are you using to get such fine shading lines??

BillyBrusher
05-29-2006, 08:00 PM
Hello again folks, I haven't read through all the updates yet as I have been trying to find how to upload pictures to my own web space, that way I can post updates and have them appear like you guys do.
I am still have great fun learning the digital painting with my tablet. I know there is still a lot to do yet but I am trying to figure out which brushes suit me best. I will read through the updates next and post some comments.
So here goes I just hope the image appears ok.

Cheers n Beers

Billy

http://www.aqvn76.dsl.pipex.com/images/mypic001.jpg

Matellis
05-29-2006, 09:49 PM
hey everyone looking good!

I was bored today so i thought i would take a stab at a master copy .
Here she so far , still lots to do :)

http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/1290/masterc41tq.jpg

LoTekK
05-29-2006, 09:54 PM
Nice stuff! Mecha, DiM, awesome speed. Botched, digitalsol, rebecca, very cool. Maxtormer, cool stuff; don't think I've ever tried charcoal+water before.

Mine so far. Haven't managed to work on it much.

http://www.lotekk.com/files/ofdw17-8.jpg

MechaHateChimp
05-29-2006, 11:45 PM
http://joelcarlo.net/temp/images/illustrations/ofdw/ofdw-017_sketch-06.jpg

Final image.

I got lazy and decided to just finish this up as a study rather than a completed copy. I think its safe to say I will never paint tiger fur again.

Click here for high res image (http://joelcarlo.net/temp/images/illustrations/ofdw/ofdw-017_sketch-res.jpg)

Rebeccak
05-29-2006, 11:52 PM
Update on the small items:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20017/OFDW-017_comp-16.jpg

Rebeccak
05-30-2006, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by Amerasu: Thanks for congrats! And cool, that's plenty of time then. I guess the master copy threads have a longer lifespan; that's great.
Yep, the Master Copy Workshops run 4 weeks as opposed to the 2 we were doing for the photographic reference Workshops. :)

I'm going to tackle the 3 head study I think since it's a totally different style for me. I am the worst person for trying paint loose and "painterly" so this will be a big challenge. Let's see how 'loose' I can keep it :) Beautiful choice of master paintings.
Sounds great!

Originally posted by botched: At this point I'm very much experimenting and just playing around. More than likely, once I have the whole thing rendered in pencil, I'll scan it in and start painting on top (and underneath!) in photoshop. As for the delicate hatches... yeah, I'd like to keep a sense of those through the finished piece... but we'll see how it goes!
botched, if ever you have the time or inclination to put together a Traditional Shading Tutorial, that would be wonderful! If you can, feel free to create your own Tutorial Thread, and call it Tutorial - What It's About - by botched here: Tutorials and Workshops. (http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=199)

Just a request, if you have the time. :)

Billy,

This is looking great! :) The more saturated colors you're using are really bringing this to life. It would be great to see more details / wrinkles on the shirt...looking forward to your update! :)

Matt,

Nice start! :) As I mentioned earlier, I think there is something a bit strange about her right arm (it seems short, or missing the upper arm or something) but I know you're at an early stage, so I'll harrass you about it later. :)

Teck,

Looking good so far, keep pushing that form! ;)

Mecha,

This is looking great, are you sure we can't convince you to render a little further? :D The upper part of the fur and the chain mail are looking awesome!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

MechaHateChimp
05-30-2006, 12:44 AM
Mecha,

This is looking great, are you sure we can't convince you to render a little further? :D The upper part of the fur and the chain mail are looking awesome!

~Rebeccak

Ah, bless your heart my young neenja assasin :D As much fun as I had making it, Im pretty much spent on that bad boy so unless you want to see a grown man cry, Im gonna pass :D

It was fun though. Im still thinking about putting a video tutorial together for the next one. For now I'm gonna chill and eat some pizza.

Rebeccak
05-30-2006, 04:34 AM
Originally Posted by Mecha: Ah, bless your heart my young neenja assasin :D As much fun as I had making it, Im pretty much spent on that bad boy so unless you want to see a grown man cry, Im gonna pass :D

It was fun though. Im still thinking about putting a video tutorial together for the next one. For now I'm gonna chill and eat some pizza.
ROFL ~ always enjoy your nutty comments, Mecha! :D I think your piece looks great, congrats! I don't want to see you cry, either. ;)

Update: :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20017/OFDW-017_comp-17.jpg

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Matellis
05-30-2006, 04:39 AM
great updates teck , rebecca! everything coming along very nicely , heres mine so far!
crit it up peeps

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1000/masterc58jr.jpg

botched
05-30-2006, 05:49 AM
Botched, what kind of pencil/paper are you using to get such fine shading lines??

paperclip,

Nothing fancy here... just regular old %100 rag markerpaper and Dixon Ticonderoga 3H pencils. I usually use vellum and lead-holders (mechanical drafting pencils)... and I'm finding the DT 3H to be a bit soft for the first layer. (I'll probably switch to a heavier paper next time, too).

botched, if ever you have the time or inclination to put together a Traditional Shading Tutorial, that would be wonderful!

Wow! I'm flattered! I just may have to take you up on that.... I'll see what I can slap together...

Anyway... here's today's progress... just a bit more rendering on the mid-section... another 1.5 hours, I think.

http://www.botched.com/sketches/20060529_sketch3.jpg

daWinky
05-30-2006, 05:53 AM
Morning everyone!:wavey: (http://forums.cgsociety.org/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#)

And again so many updates! I'm back with some comments later, atm just my little update, just began to render the clothes...

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/daWinky/Black_Bashi-Bazouk_wip10.jpg

-sabrina

Rebeccak
05-30-2006, 06:37 AM
Originally posted by botched: Wow! I'm flattered! I just may have to take you up on that.... I'll see what I can slap together...
Sweet! :thumbsup: Please do what you can when you get the chance, there's no hurry. :)

Sabie,

Great to see your start on the clothes, this is really starting to come together! :)

My update:


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20017/OFDW-017_comp-18.jpg

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

DiM
05-30-2006, 07:39 AM
Nice stuff! Mecha!:thumbsup: "I will never paint tiger fur again". :)
Good texture wall! Respect!

Mu
05-30-2006, 08:11 AM
botched - thanks for all the explanations. I am looking forward to how you transfer your technique into the digital realm

Rebecca - argh! I feared that someone would be recommending wacom. The point is: there's a chance of 1:100000 that I can afford this this year so I will have to work around somehow.


Billy Brusher - great work, wanted to say so earlier on, but there's so many updates in here it just slipped through somehow. I esp. like the reflections on the folds. Makes the actual feel of the cloth he is wearing very present.

DiM
05-30-2006, 08:54 AM
<<<Rebecca - argh! I feared that someone would be recommending wacom. The point is: there's a chance of 1:100000 that I can afford this this year so I will have to work around somehow>>>
2_Mu
Wacom is cool. Goood intuos or cintiq verry cool, but graphire not bad. If you have good hands and eyes..... & USD150 only.:)

Mu
05-30-2006, 09:16 AM
USD150 only.:)

erm...
*empties his left pocket*
uh...
*empties his right pocket*
*fumbles with a dried used handkerchief*
*searches through his wallet*
*a moth flies up*

well, rather next year...:D

Jack Shannon
05-30-2006, 09:41 AM
mu get a cheap one off ebay for like $30, they are not bad, i had one untill cristmas when i got some money.

Matellis
05-30-2006, 09:57 AM
alright i was bored all night so i finished the painting! yeehaa! I think in totally it took me about 8 hours give or take. I hope everyone likes it and all crits are welcome.

Everyone else your doing a great job and i will keep fallowing along.

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/705/mastercfinish3qp.jpg

DiM
05-30-2006, 11:48 AM
Next step of detalization.

http://dimm3d.mail333.com/baron_test/mk_final1.jpg

LoTekK
05-30-2006, 02:11 PM
Matt! Soberness FTW! :D
DiM, sick stuff, looking awesome.
Rebecca, nice forms as always.
DaWinky, looking real sharp there :thumbsup:

Starting to get into some detail as well as color correction in various areas.

http://www.lotekk.com/files/ofdw17-12.jpg

RhysyngSun
05-30-2006, 02:52 PM
Wow! Some absolutely phenomenal work going on in here.

I'll be joining as soon as i have something to post, not sure if i'll be quite up to par with the level of work here though. :D

DiM
05-30-2006, 05:40 PM
Next step.

http://dimm3d.mail333.com/baron_test/mk_final2.jpg

DiM
05-30-2006, 05:41 PM
Two hours per day it is not enough for serious work. :)

LoTekK
05-30-2006, 06:07 PM
Dammit, why do keep having to post right after you, DiM? :p Nice work. :thumbsup:

Drapery. >_<
http://www.lotekk.com/files/ofdw17-13.jpg

BillyBrusher
05-30-2006, 07:11 PM
LoTekK .... Nice start I look forward to watching your updates.

DiM .... Great painting, I love the textures and colours.

Matillis .... Looking very good so far, might be advisable to soften the edges a little.

RebeccaK .... Some nice shapes developing with your tonal work, almost like painting with light. I look forward to the colour rendering.

daWinky .... Wow ! some very nice work here, I very much like the texturing of the clothes, your work does impress me.

botched .... very good sketching, it reminds me of a wood engraving. What a great way to learn about light and tonal variation.

DigitalSol .... The textures are really coming to life with your work, I look forward to seeing the colour rendering, I must try this type of workflow, maybe my next painting.

MechaHateChimp .... Nice work, I love those textures and your colours.

Sorry if I have left anyone out, but there is so much going on in this thread, everyone is doing so well and it's hard to keep up with everyones updates. I haven't done this sort of thing before so forgive me if my comments seem short.

I am slowly coming to the end of this work, I am going to leave it for two days then take a fresh look at it to see where it needs more work. I have learned a lot from this, especially getting into Painter and using the new Wacom.

http://www.aqvn76.dsl.pipex.com/images/mypic003.jpg

Skjoldbroder
05-30-2006, 08:35 PM
I managed to find an hour and a half for this today, was great fun. So far I've mostly just put down some base stuff. I know there's a LOT wrong with this, I'm expecting to have to go over it all again and put in the right colours and details :) Still, it's a start, right?

http://www.skjoldbroder.dk/arab_paint4.jpg

Ed777uk
05-30-2006, 09:02 PM
Well I gave it a break for a few days. But ive come back and done a few more hours on this tonight. It was mainly tidying up (no small job) & trying to introduce a bit of texture to make it look a bit more like a painting. Is it finished?? - prehaps it could do with a bit more, but how can you tell?

I guess from a presonal point of view though its prob the most hours ive spent on a single piece in years, so in that respect im pleased!

Some great stuff coming along by the way - I wasl almost tempted to dig out the oils! - but still trying to develop my wacom skills at the mo!

Ed777uk
05-30-2006, 09:09 PM
if this doesnt work im giving up

BillyBrusher
05-30-2006, 09:19 PM
Ed777uk ... hey it looks very nice indeed, I love the brushwork and I also am just getting used to my new 2 days old wacom tablet. I painted in oils all my life so finding the digital workflow strange but I am enjoying learning.
keep up the good work and hell, go ahead and get the oils out maybe it will be just the insentive you need.
Cheers n Beers

Billy

LoTekK
05-30-2006, 10:08 PM
Billy, looking real solid, lovely detail. :thumbsup:
plaf, real nice start. :)
Ed, looks fantastic.

And I'm calling this one done. If I never have to stare at another tiger pelt again in my life it'll be too soon. :argh:

http://www.lotekk.com/files/ofdw17-final.jpg

Ed777uk
05-30-2006, 10:31 PM
Cheers!

Thanks Billy - Yeah I must admit I got my self all kitted out with oils earlier this year. I had read Seargents painting notes on Craig Mullins site and was feeling pretty inspired. I had also just discovered the Art Renewal Center website so was full of desire to get painting some traditional canvas's.

I dont really have studio space though and so was finding it tricky to set up still life's etc!

Anyway to cut a long story short, I think it was discovery of Illustration Friday prompted me to get a tablet & so at the moment it almost all digital stuff (but with an eye on traditional approaches). I feel like I have struck gold finding this site and am still looking round and getting my bearings! (theres a lot here!)

However I would admit I do fancy having a go at the oils, so maybe this weekend!!

Cheers Lotekk - I take my hat of to you taking on the tiger pelt (and everyone else having a go)

Anyway incase you interested here one of the oil paintings I did earlier in the year! (I hope thats OK rebbeca?) - as you can see it could prob have done with a bit more finishing!

SpiritDreamer
05-30-2006, 11:29 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone

Small update from me.
Working my way from the top down.
Made it as far as the straw hat on the guy in the foreground
Just taking my time and enjoying it.

Really like watching everone's paintings develop!

Take Care Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/SOROLLA_BEACH_6.jpg

maxetormer
05-30-2006, 11:36 PM
Rebeccak (http://member.php?u=148587): Thanks for the link!! I really liked the work of Jim Dine
and for the recomendations as well, I was going for an expresionist
kinda of style, thats way I decided to do all those extra markings,
it was more of a study on value than on detail :P thanks for the
critics non the less, I love them, they help me to improve and
given the limited amount of contac that I have with a realistic
based artistic comuniuty here (theres practicly only abstract
painters on my city) I wellcome any tips and tricks that could
help me grow!!! :D
Oh bw I really like your anatomy studies, and your digital copy
is looking real sharp!

Ok so ill be doing some some how speed studies from this paintings,
my main goal will be to capture the expresion and main value work
from the images, as well as the best sence of bulk I can without
using more than one day per study, ill do a copy of each one
an then decide wich one I will do using more time.

In that spirit heres the first study, I was a lot of fun

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/maxetormer/Black_Bashi-BazoukSTUDYy.jpg

Rebeccak
05-31-2006, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by Mu: Rebecca - argh! I feared that someone would be recommending wacom. The point is: there's a chance of 1:100000 that I can afford this this year so I will have to work around somehow.
Sorry to torture you Mu! Indeed, I can understand, and won't pressure (snicker) you about it. :D

Matt,

I've now commented twice on your piece, lol, but I still say you can push this piece further. ;)

DiM,

Your piece is looking great, and I hope that at the end of this Workshop you will consider putting together a Tutorial! :thumbsup:

Originally posted by Teck: And I'm calling this one done. If I never have to stare at another tiger pelt again in my life it'll be too soon.
Done? *snickers* This is looking good, and you've gotten a nice base coat down. *grins evilly*. Now, for the hard part! Render away, kid. :D ;)

Billy,

Looking great, one thing I might mention is that the horizontal axis of the lips is tilted a bit upward to the viewer's right, which is a bit different from the tilt of the rest of the face. Also you might try adding a bit of a greenish tint to the background, as the overall effect of the painting is brownish, and a greenish tint would give a nice complementary color combination. Fantastic progress, and looking forward to your next upate!

plaf,

This is coming along really well! The door especially looks quite confident and painterly, it seems you are using the acrylics in thin transparent layers, which is great to see. Watch the proportion of the head to the upper torso, as I think currently that area borders on being a bit compressed. Otherwise, things are looking good, keep up the good work! :)

Ed777uk,

This is looking great, and I think you are using a variety of brushes to great effect! Indeed it can be hard to tell if a piece is done, but try going away from it for a day or two, coming back, and looking at it with fresh eyes.

Also, I'm happy to see your other work here! You are most welcome to create your own Personal Anatomy Thread however here:

Personal Anatomy & Sketchbook Threads (http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=200)

See this thread for information about creating a personal Anatomy Thread first:
FAQ: Can I Create My Own Anatomy Thread? (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=341167)

I encourage you to look at other peoples' threads and to see what they're up to.
Links to all Personal Anatomy Threads can be found here:
Anatomy Threads of Individual Users (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=2817397&postcount=12)

Glenn,

Great to see your update, I see from your Anatomy Thread that you are quite busy in other areas as well! :)

Originally posted by maxetormer: Thanks for the link!! I really liked the work of Jim Dine and for the recomendations as well, I was going for an expresionist kinda of style, thats way I decided to do all those extra markings, it was more of a study on value than on detail :P thanks for the critics non the less, I love them, they help me to improve and given the limited amount of contac that I have with a realistic based artistic comuniuty here (theres practicly only abstract painters on my city) I wellcome any tips and tricks that could help me grow!!! Oh bw I really like your anatomy studies, and your digital copy is looking real sharp!

Ok so ill be doing some some how speed studies from this paintings, my main goal will be to capture the expresion and main value work from the images, as well as the best sence of bulk I can without using more than one day per study, ill do a copy of each one an then decide wich one I will do using more time.
maxetormer, thanks for the comments! :) I'm thrilled you like Jim Dine, I'm a big fan of his. I'm glad you've found this community as well and hope to see you post work here often! :)

Your piece is looking really good, I like the looseness with which you are approaching it. Other artists you might look at are Manuel Neri (http://www.cowlesgallery.com/Neri.html) and Nicolai Fechin (http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/fechin.htm). Both work in a beautiful language of markmaking with which I think you will really identify.

RhysyngSun,

Hope to see your work here soon! :)

Keep up the amazing work everyone!

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
05-31-2006, 04:37 AM
THANKS ...Rebecca....more detail in that beach painting than I thought....like a jigsaw puzzle...
SO FAR ALL THE PIECES SEEM TO BE FITTING TOGETHER...LOL ...not to bad for just eyeballing
it....might have to get some new glasses before I am through with it though..this getting old
is the pitts....:scream:
I like that Z BRUSH alot...will like it even better, if I can ever figure it out...LOL
Think it will make a nice combination with painter...interesting if nothing else..might come out with something totally new in the end....a beautiful hybred....you never know...:)

THANKS for everything as always...your doing a FANTASTIC job by the way..:thumbsup: .You really CREATED something VERY SPECIAL, when you CREATED these forums....PURE MAGIC....:bounce:
Just my personal opinion though...:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

RadicalCypher
05-31-2006, 05:28 AM
Hey All!
Great to see all the amazing talent here! Anywho here is my WIP worked about 3 hours on this so far. I will only be working in greyscale for this workshop just to let you know ;) As for the painting still workin' with lighting and a minor details I suspect I have another few hours to go!....

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/4108/ofdw17paint6rw.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

YMS
05-31-2006, 06:17 AM
You really CREATED something VERY SPECIAL, when you CREATED these forums....PURE MAGIC....:bounce:
Just my personal opinion though...:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn


You truly did, Rebecca! I'm very grateful to have found them... :)

Rebeccak
05-31-2006, 07:38 AM
Glenn,

Thank you, your words definitely made me smile. :)

Radical_Seifer,

This is looking great so far! Watch the proportion and position of the head relative to the body ~ it's deceptive due to the angle, but I think at the moment the head is a bit too low ~ you might try increasing the size of the head slightly, moving it slightly up. Otherwise, great start! :thumbsup:

YMS,

Thanks so much! It's the participation of everyone here that makes the forum so successful. It's great to have you and everyone aboard! :)

Update, not a big one, but some work on lightening the background, adjusting the face and the texture:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20017/OFDW-017_comp-19B.jpg

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

DiM
05-31-2006, 07:58 AM
THANKS all for comment.2_SpiritDreamer I like your painting stile.

2_Lotekk Great work. I worked above a tiger skin summary about 4 hours. Your speed is fantastik....

PureGhostGR
05-31-2006, 09:20 AM
It is great to be able to see how everyone slowly works and improves their study through the weeks (and in some cases increadibly fast). So after some time of viewing, I have decided to join as well this time.

Here are the previous steps. I admit I am doing this with a trial and error approach so far.

Steps 00 to 05 (http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/8184/steps00to051xn.jpg)

And this is where I am now:

Step 06 (http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/5773/step069od.jpg)

I am not sure where I should go from here. I decided to pick that particular artwork because it is by far nothing like anything I tried before and it has been great fun.
My question is: Should I try to recreate the original as best as my abilities allow or should I make a more freestyle approach to it?

It had been great watching everyone with their own studies.
Keep up the good work!

DiM
05-31-2006, 10:07 AM
Final step. I finished becouse i started the hard work design project for a week or two.
Thanks All & personally Rebecca.
I shall try to write tutorial after a while, but unfortunately my English is terrible.:)
Full version: http://dimm3d.mail333.com/baron_test/mk_final_big_copy.jpg
http://dimm3d.mail333.com/baron_test/mk_final_copy.jpg

SpiritDreamer
05-31-2006, 11:55 AM
Hi....DiM.....THANKS....:)
I think your painting came out ....FANTASTIC ....been watching it's progress from the start,
really enjoyed it ...GREAT JOB....:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

mazalo
05-31-2006, 12:01 PM
Hi...
...here i is finished Sorolla copy,

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g93/mazalo/sorollaCGT800w.jpg


and link to full version,


http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g93/mazalo/sorollaCGTfull.jpg

DiM
05-31-2006, 12:22 PM
2Mazalo
Good work!

SaraD
05-31-2006, 12:22 PM
Wow, some great paintings here. I love the different approaches and techiques shown here. Great inspiration, as usual :applause:

Here´s my progress on the hat. I´m tired of it now, and leave the last touch-ups for later. Going for folds and rifles now :)

http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/OFDW17/BashiBazouk_007.jpg

LoTekK
05-31-2006, 12:46 PM
Thanks DiM! :) Yours looks fantastic. Love the feel of your copy.
PureGhostGR, yours is coming along really really nicely. Can't wait to see where you take it.
mazalo, great work on that, and nice brushwork.
SaraD, holy crap, that's looking gorgeous. :thumbsup:
maxtormer, I absolutely love the tones you've got going in your copy. Can't wait to see yours develop.

And, since becca evidently wasn't gonna let me off the hook for this one, I put some more work into mine. This is probably close to two hours, I think. More coming along, but I plan on finishing this tonight, even if it's just because I can't bring myself to stare at that pelt for much longer. :argh:

http://www.lotekk.com/files/ofdw17-18.jpg

Mu
05-31-2006, 04:00 PM
LoTekk!

Thou shalt be known as Lord Fur-guson from now on...:wise:


:D

Rebeccak
05-31-2006, 04:29 PM
Hi guys, :)

I'll be out for a bit so can't comment on everyone's just yet (want to give the finished pieces their due attention) :) so will come back later for that.

Teck,

That's a great second coat, can't wait to see your next update! :p

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

LoTekK
05-31-2006, 06:32 PM
Second coat... I'm going to keel you, becca. :argh:

Done! No more tiger pelt! I can't stare at this thing any longer.

http://www.lotekk.com/files/ofdw17-final2.jpg

Steps from start to finish (475kb gif) (http://s72.photobucket.com/albums/i196/LoTekK/?action=view&current=ofdw17-steps.gif)

paperclip
05-31-2006, 07:24 PM
I think I'm done! :beer:

http://img274.imageshack.us/img274/3531/zorncopy1vq.jpg

Will comment on everyone else's later! Some really fantastic stuff coming out of the woodwork here...

CoyoteGuy
05-31-2006, 07:36 PM
Okay gang, be kind. :)

This is an initial b&W tonal study for the Sorella piece I've decided to do. I'll get this one done and then maybe head for the other two of the trio. Done in Painter with a greasy pencil. Will start putting color down tonight or tomorrow.

Everyone else, fantastic work. Way to make me feel intimidated! (Not that it appears to be stopping me...)

http://pics.livejournal.com/coyotewatches/pic/000265bw

aggie93
05-31-2006, 08:59 PM
Hey, y'all started this a week too early. Now I am behind.

Devil-inside
05-31-2006, 10:00 PM
Wow! I was just looking the entries that everyone did and all works are awesome! I dunno if I'll be able to do something too, but seeing everyone working on these pieces was really exciting. Congratulations, everyone!

Zephyri
05-31-2006, 10:11 PM
wow... lots of fantastic work still going on in here, and people finishing up so fast! O.o you're all mad...

SaraD, thats looking better everytime you post! You've got the smoothness down to a t!

LoTekk... come ooon, you know you wanna doo more fur detail.. its fuuuun, if you happen to be of sadistic persuasion!

Paperclip: I adore that painting, the violets are just perfect, as is her face! Definitely my fave of yours to date.

DiM, nice work there too! The colours in the tiger pelt are lovely, especially the touch of green on the right.

Rebecca, yours is coming on a treat too, i love watching the way you build up a piece from organic shapes

And from me another stage... this takes much longer than i remember! Here's my tools thus far the colours used were Naples yellow, yellow Ochre, White, raw Umber, Ultra Marine and Burnt Sienna. The naples yellow and the lemon yellow were actually defunct by the time i'd finished the stage below as yellow ochre and white seemed to suffice
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/setup.jpg

and the painting, now with a good layer of acrylic on it. I added some alizarin crimson to the purpley bits in the background and to some of the floor at the front. The first layer of paint was fairly saturated, so mixing in some white and dirtying the sienna with both the blue and brown helped, so far its about two and a half hours work, and it looks like a shut my eyes and splodged paint everywhere.. :D:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/peltmerchantstep1.jpg

PureGhostGR
06-01-2006, 07:50 AM
Very impressive work by everyone so far.

DiM: Very well done! The attention to color is stunning! I have been watching this from the start.
mazalo: I really like the brushwork and the colors. Impressive work!
SaraD: The attention to detail is stunning. I look forward to seeing the finished study. Well done!
LoTekK: Gorgeous pelt! I love the attention to the details in it. Well done!
paperclip: Seriously, that is increadible work, especially the detailed face. Well done!
CoyoteGuy: I love the feeling of movement in it. Great study!
Zephyri: Alot of respect to you for taking this into acrylics. I cannot wait to see more.

Here is my next step. Every time I check the original, I see more and more differences. I have a feeling that my angle might be mixed up.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7343/step071jl.jpg

daWinky
06-01-2006, 07:51 AM
Morning everyone!

Unfortunatly I'm too busy for an update, but just have to leave some comments here, before I totally lose the track...

Glenn - love the way how the things slowly come out in your painting...we can see, you enjoy it!
Billy - yours is coming along nice, only thing that I see for crit, is the uniform noised and colored background...more variation will do a lot for the scene!
maxetormer - this is a very nice study, you've catched the piece with a few strokes!
radical_Seifer - really good start!
Becca - just:thumbsup:
DiM - you've already finished:scream: ! Fast work and it looks really good, the work on the pelt is great
SaraD - looks absolutely fantastic so far, and I know what you mean with "tired of the hat"...:)
LoTekK - congrats for the finished piece, great work and I can imagine that the pelt painting is a pain...
paperclip - just wow! Congrats, this is an amazing piece of work!:thumbsup:
Bryan - nice start, I'm looking forward to see more...
Zephyri - great to see another traditional piece started...!

Have all a nice day!

-sabrina

DiM
06-01-2006, 08:45 AM
Hi all!
As well as promised has composed a small lesson. Please correct if it is possible mistakes and correct stylistics before the publication for all.
All steps about this paint
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=360025&page=1&pp=15
I dont' remember about time!
About week. About 2 hour per day after work and break of lunch
I have started to draw a pencil on a paper as has forgotten a tablet of the house.
After hour drowing i scanned my work and worked smudge tools with mouse.
http://dimm3d.mail333.com/baron_test/mk11.jpg
Next day's i worked with graphire.
The technics was extremely simple. On the screen the original and my copy have been opened. I looked at the original and tried to draw a brush that that
saw in is black to white scale. Roughly enough.
http://dimm3d.mail333.com/baron_test/m_copy.jpg
After that I took smuge tool and studied details. Color in the beginning added color on the channel. After a while when I was defined with base colors,

I began to do easier.
http://dimm3d.mail333.com/baron_test/mk_3.jpg
I threw color spots over a surface, and then smeared them achieving volume, well and helped myself dodge? burn and sponge tools. After in general all

has been drawn I began to study details not forgetting to use the blur tool.
http://dimm3d.mail333.com/baron_test/mk_4.jpg
http://dimm3d.mail333.com/baron_test/mk_5.jpg
http://dimm3d.mail333.com/baron_test/mk_6.jpg
http://dimm3d.mail333.com/baron_test/mk7.jpg
http://dimm3d.mail333.com/baron_test/mk_8.jpg
The structure of a wall was drawn in some receptions. First color spots have been drawn, then by means of the burn tool they have been strengthened at

some places. Then very large brush the same tool had been added roughnesses and are washed slightly away. Further I have made of the turned out textural

site pattern a brush and on a new layer have drawn places where there should be cracks. In installations of mixing I have blending parameters of

rejection of a shadow and mixing on the channel of color and transparensy 3-5%. It has added chaos.
after that layers have been flattened. Again smudge both degradation and alignment of shadows. Well and on smooth places for drawing a successful

structure it was used healing brush tool.
http://dimm3d.mail333.com/baron_test/mk_final1.jpg
http://dimm3d.mail333.com/baron_test/mk_final2.jpg
http://dimm3d.mail333.com/baron_test/mk_final_copy.jpg
Nearly has not forgotten. For a chain armour I drew a special brush.
And all.
Sorry but my english is bad.

Matellis
06-01-2006, 11:59 AM
here is my new master copy that i have started :)

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/2063/tiger109oh.jpg

paperclip
06-01-2006, 01:48 PM
Matt, looking good! The tigerpelt seems a bit too bright though, check against the orig?

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7786/zorncopy7ie.jpg

Mu
06-01-2006, 03:46 PM
slowly going through all the problem areas adding details and correcting proportions after upres-ing the whole pic...


http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/5420/unarabe0120wi.jpg

SaraD
06-01-2006, 03:50 PM
Good start there matellis. I understand that it´s a wip, but don´t get stuck in the "monochromatic" colorscheme - remember the greens and yellows etc in the skin :) Looking forward to see your progress! I realized the tigerskin would kill me, so I´m not even gonna try this one ;)

Did some work on the clothes.
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/OFDW17/BashiBazouk_009.jpg

Matellis
06-01-2006, 04:20 PM
hey thanks for the comments guys , clippy yeah i know its still a bit light , i always tend to work from the lighter colors to darker , and sara yeah im like a printer i usually stick to one color and then move to the next so those other colors will be coming soon ,

the lastest updates are looking good , no crits here

another little update for you guys

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/3489/tiger112xm.jpg

Rebeccak
06-02-2006, 05:41 AM
Update on the head thingies:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20017/OFDW-017_comp-20B.jpg

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Ego
06-02-2006, 06:21 AM
DaWinky: Awesome work you have done :D
Teck: you missed a spot. Just kidding. Beautiful finish!
Dim: You did a great job on the merchant too.
Clippy: Wow! you must do more master copies.
SaraD: That bashi is looking gorgeous. His skin is glowing and so alive.
Sam: I am liking the begining of the oil painting. I am watching it intently since I intend to do more oil studies.
Matt: That is one lovely artistic digression from the original.
Now paint me a naughty chick sitting on the balcony :p
MrMu: The pieces are coming together.
Becca: That black and white gives bashi such a tranquil look. I wonder if you could keep it black and white. Certainly that
will be different.

SaraD
06-02-2006, 06:56 AM
Closing in... almost finished.
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/OFDW17/BashiBazouk_011.jpg

Rebeccak
06-02-2006, 07:04 AM
Okay, time for some belated replies. :)

Teck,

You've done a great job with this for an IRC addict and I think you could push it further, but I'm not sure I can push you further ~ so it's cool to /think/ you're done. :D Good job with this, would (seriously) love to see you do more OFDWs. :)

Clippy,

I think this is looking great ~ the clock in the back left looks a bit contrasty. I still think her right arm needs more 'flow'. Take a step back from things and see the image as a whole ~ how the colors meld and how the eye flows about the room and the figure ~ then ask yourself if you are done.

CoyoteGuy,

Welcome aboard! Great to see you here. One suggestion I might have for your piece is to start on a mid gray background. This automatically gives you a middle ground, after which you need only go up in value for your lights, and down in value for your darks. I look forward to seeing your progress on this! :)

aggie,

Looking forward to seeing your work here. :)

raintears,

Thanks for your comments, and I hope that you will be able to join in this or a future OFDW!

Zeph,

Great pic, thanks for posting that! I really look forward to seeing your piece develop, it will make a great Step by Step!

PureGhostGR,

Welcome aboard! It looks as though you have a fantastic start, and I look forward to seeing your piece develop. :)

Sabie,

Thanks!

DiM,

Thanks a lot for the Tutorial! What I would love to see you do is to actually create a new thread here:

Tutorials and Workshops (http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=199)

And call it: TUTORIAL - OFDW 017 Step by Step - by DiM

With your images and text from your Tutorial there. :) Also, please post the URL links as images so that we can see them.

Thanks a lot for doing this! :)

Matt,

You are off to a great start, and I'd just like to see you push this as far as you can. :)

Mu,

Keep going, you have a great start here!

SaraD,

That looks great! You are getting faster.

Great stuff everyone! Keep up the hard work!

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

guagua
06-02-2006, 08:39 AM
hello,everyone,here's my update today
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9360/june2nd8ih.jpg

paperclip
06-02-2006, 09:42 AM
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/808/zorncopy0qh.jpg

Still need to do more work on the sleeve and the hood...but I think I'm nearing the finishing line. So near, yet so far!

Sara...looking really good!

DiM
06-02-2006, 10:08 AM
Waw, paperclip!

Good work!

SpiritDreamer
06-02-2006, 10:25 AM
June 1, 2006
Small update....Started working on forground figures

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/SOROLLA_BEACH_7.jpg

paperclip
06-02-2006, 10:27 AM
It's coming, Glenn, it's coming! I can see it! :thumbsup:

Mu
06-02-2006, 10:36 AM
wow, Glenn, beautiful...


still wonder how earth you did that. Maybe you could enlarge upon this "from Blobs to Beauty" technique, becasue really that was so strange and exciting to follow...:eek:

LoTekK
06-02-2006, 10:36 AM
Zeph, Rebecca, you're a couple of sadists. ;) I'll revisit the blasted merchant once I've given my eyes and brain a couple days to recover; look at it with fresh eyes, so to speak. :)

Everyone, fantastic stuff. Everything just looks so awesome. :)

SaraD
06-02-2006, 11:08 AM
Cool Glen - from out of some blobs of color a beautiful painting emerges! You have an eye for form and color that I really envy :bowdown:
And I think I´m finished. Or? C&C please :)
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/OFDW17/BashiBazouk_finished.jpg

DiM
06-02-2006, 11:20 AM
Glenn: it is fantastic. I like it
SaraD Good finish, but i want view full size work.

paperclip
06-02-2006, 11:20 AM
How should I reply to this fellamelad? :
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=881848&postcount=6

SpiritDreamer
06-02-2006, 11:40 AM
Hi....Theresa.....THANKS...still a long ways to go...:scream: ....been meaning to tell you..I think your
painting is coming out great...:thumbsup:

YAY...MR MU ...Glad to see you found your way OUT of the OUTBACK, and now are BACK..:scream:
BLOBS...what BLOBS ..:scream: Just some AIR blowing around like COLORED SMOKE, and gradually solidifying into a painting...:)
Glad to see you upped the resolution on your piece...MUCH BETTER...:thumbsup:

SaraD...THANK YOU ....Always love your paintings...outdid yourself this time.FANTASTIC:applause:

DiM...THANK YOU...:)


Think everbody is doing a FANTASTIC JOB.. A real pleasure and learning experiance watching
all the different techniques being developed...:bounce:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Mu
06-02-2006, 12:57 PM
SaraD!

Esp. the face came out wonderfully detailed and just right from the colours to the blending...

Also the Ivory parts on them weapons are just real...

:bowdown:

Matellis
06-02-2006, 01:19 PM
hey everyone , heres another update :)

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1308/tiger156ti.jpg

Mu
06-02-2006, 03:17 PM
had to cut and sever and amputate away at several places to make everything fit together better.
I had initially started to grid the painting, but I just felt to stiff following the boxes, and now I am caught in all those proportion inadequacies...

Well, we shall see...

http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/490/unarabe0193vh.jpg

SpiritDreamer
06-02-2006, 05:58 PM
Hi...MR MU ....LIKE THIS ...YOUR DRAWING ....ALOT ...very strong mood created with that high contrast
between light and shadow.
You could get that same power going with just one broad brush...and a limited color range, say....deep redish purple....yellow...and white...you could get a really strong painting, by exploreing all the combinations that just those three colors can creat, when mixed...Might not
look exactly like the original colorwise....might look better.
You could just put a clear layer on top of your drawing, and just paint it in a bold fashion, mixing those three colors as you go along....be fast...cover big areas first,.. work small areas second, and whatever details that you feel it may need...save tell last.
KEEP THE BRUSH BIG, for the first stage, and gradually reduce it's size as you get towards details.
You have already gotten the hardest part done,...now it is time to have some fun with color.
You could creat ten different paintings in one day using that method that I just decribed, all
of the same subject, and still keep your drawing the way it is....great way to explore color,
brushwork,ect.....and you will find yourself really loosening up in the process...plus you will
end up with a bunch of different color variations of the same painting...all having different
brush strokes...ect
Just an exercise, and another technique for learning....:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

SpiritDreamer
06-02-2006, 10:26 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone

Small update. Bringing the foreground into focus

Take Care Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/SOROLLA_BEACH_8.jpg

Mu
06-02-2006, 10:35 PM
Glenn - the development of your mastercopy is really wonderful!

About your suggestions:

That definitely sounds very interesting. I think I will try that at a later time, though. I want to take this drawing as far as I can within the timeframe and will start some colour experiments when the workshop's over, because then I will be able to follow my prepared schedule for some time, anyway.

So thanks and look out for me getting all wild with colour...:scream:

krispee
06-03-2006, 12:32 AM
too many incredible works here now that there isn`t enough room (or enough time) to mention them, keep up the great works guys.....
a head study so far, from sorolla....couple of hours i guess, give or take....

http://www.fluidimage.co.uk/images/sorollaheadstudy_wip1.jpg

kris

-voraz-
06-03-2006, 10:18 AM
Hi, I saw this 3-4 days ago and decided to participate, I started to do the first one from Sororolla. I don't like to copy stuff but i though it would be a good painting exercise.

I started this using acrylic on paper. I didn't use grid, actually I hardly sketched it before, that is probably noticeable. i'm hopping to correct stuff with pant later. i know it may not be a good idea but it will make me work a little extra (more pratice :)).

Been working on it for about one hour now:

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2880/cgtofdw017sorollaarabe0018ig.jpg

Matellis
06-03-2006, 02:59 PM
hey glen , chris and luis good work so far! looking forward to seeing the updates.

And here is my last update and then the next will be the finished render

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/87/tiger193xl.jpg

Rebeccak
06-03-2006, 05:50 PM
SaraD,

This came out beautifully! I was happy to see you had posted it to the Gallery, here:

Bashi-Bazouk, Sara Dehman (2D) (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3605352#post3605352)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3605352#post3605352

I really think this is one of your best pieces, and it's so cool to see all the great OFDW pieces in your Portfolio. I'd really love it if you were to create a Tutorial! Keep up the great work! :thumbsup:

Originally posted by Clippy: How should I reply to this fellamelad?
It looks like others have replied quite well. :) What is a fellamelad?

Mu,

I really recommend laying in bigger areas of tone and then picking out the lights gradually. Try giving this an all over tonal gray layer then moving up the value scale from there. I think that this method will really help. :)

Glenn,
Looking great, keep pushing this, I would love to see it finished! :bounce:

krispee,

Looking great, nice to see you back here! I think your hues are so much richer in this piece and I look forward to your update. :)

-voraz-,

Hi there, I think it's great you are doing this in acrylics! :) One thing I would really recommend is not to use white very much if at all in the initial stages of a painting. Try using yellow ochre instead for lights, and mix your black from alizarin crimson, ultramarine blue, viridian green, and burnt umber.

Check out this little materials list / tips thread if you get the chance: :)

TUTORIAL - Acrylic Painting Tips (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=363285)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=363285

Also I would suggest taking a large brush and giving the entire painting a wash of burnt sienna, to knock down your values, which have gone too light / white. I wouldn't recommend painting on paper unless it is extremely heavy paper since you have to use so much water and paper will simply buckle. Try using illustration board, canvas, or even gesso coated cardboard if you can. :)

I look forward to seeing your update!

Matt,

This is looking great! I think the head is a bit orange and you might want to check the angle of the head relative to the body. The fur is beginning to come along really nicely, and I really hope you keep at the rendering of this to complete a nice portfolio piece! :)

Great stuff everyone!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SaraD
06-03-2006, 10:06 PM
SaraD,
I'd really love it if you were to create a Tutorial! Keep up the great work! :thumbsup:
~Rebeccak

I´d love to do a tutorial - the only problem is that I hardly myself know how I do it:( And I mean it! I don´t follow any artistic paths, like underpaint then shadows then highlights etc. I don´t have that skill... I paint what I see in different order each time, and one small piece of the painting at the time. So I don´t think I can tute that much, I´m afraid. All I can do is to show you the different stages in the WIP´s.
I can share my brushes, colorsets etc.
I´m gonna start on the next master copy (I´m going for the tiger, actually) and I´ll see if I find any order in the chaos, and try to explain.

Mal-1
06-04-2006, 01:31 AM
This is my first post here, Krispee led me to this forum from another, and as I am currently looking into the works of old masters this thread is perfect for me.
Can I just say that all the works here blow me away, and some of the photorealistic reproductions are amazing.....I am an artist who cannot produce such works, and tend to be more expressionistic in my approach, so I really appauld SaraD and Rebeccak as well as some others who are producing amazing work here.
Anyway enough of my waffle, this is what I came up with after a few hours playing in Painter IX. Thanks for looking.:thumbsup:


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/SorollacgtCustom.jpg

botched
06-04-2006, 01:43 AM
Wow...there is so much great work here!

Today's feeble progress... worked a bit on the legs... about 2 hours this stage (maybe 8 total??)

http://www.botched.com/sketches/20060603_sketch4.jpg

zhay13
06-04-2006, 06:05 AM
GREAT WORK EVERYONE :thumbsup:

Hi to all, sorry that i don`t post before, but i been was working in a big horse oil painting (that`s my job :scream:) so that work consume all my energi, today i don`t paint (traditional) so i decide to finish tis great workshop, i hope you like it, this is it , the final piece.


Photoshop,10 hours, to many diferent brush and hard work.


Step 7:FINAL

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/zhay13/paso7final.jpg

Rebeccak
06-04-2006, 06:18 AM
Originally posted by SaraD: I´d love to do a tutorial - the only problem is that I hardly myself know how I do it:( And I mean it! I don´t follow any artistic paths, like underpaint then shadows then highlights etc. I don´t have that skill... I paint what I see in different order each time, and one small piece of the painting at the time. So I don´t think I can tute that much, I´m afraid. All I can do is to show you the different stages in the WIP´s. I can share my brushes, colorsets etc.
I´m gonna start on the next master copy (I´m going for the tiger, actually) and I´ll see if I find any order in the chaos, and try to explain.
SaraD, feel free to do whatever kind of Tutorial you like! If it's stages with just explanations of your thought processes, that's more than enough! I'm sure not all of us work methodically (I certainly don't). :)

Mal-1,

Welcome aboard! :) It's great that kris brought you here ~ look forward to seeing more of your work on the Anatomy Forum! :) I think you have a great start here. I quite like the 'looser' approach and have a lot to learn from it. You should definitely check out the work of zhuzhu, whose work is SPOTLIGHTED here:

SPOTLIGHT ARTIST: Best of zhuzhu (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=347429)

I think you will quite like his painterly digital brushstrokes, he is quite an inspiration around here! :)

botched,

Gorgeous progress! I admire your patient, systemmatic approach to your piece. It's looking gorgeous! :)

zhay13,

This turned out beautifully! :thumbsup: It's been great to have you as a part of this OFDW, and I hope that you will participate in more ~ or continue to work on another piece here! :) If you can, please post both a version here that is 800 pixels in width, as well as a high resolution version as a link. :) Also, I would love to see you do a Tutorial as well for your piece, only if you have the time! :)

If you can do one, please create a new thread here:

Tutorials and Workshops (http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=199)

and call it: TUTORIAL - OFDW 017 Step by Step - by zhay13

I also hope you will submit your piece to the Gallery.

Great work here!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

zhay13
06-04-2006, 06:26 AM
Hi Rebeccak, i glad you like it, if i got some time i gonna put a step by step short tutorial with some techniques, i soon i gonna summit to the gallery, c-you

zhay

krispee
06-04-2006, 09:25 AM
well, some great work going on here.....

matellis: thanks dude, love your work, the detail in the tiger skin is wonderful, beautifully done.....is this done now or more to come?

Mark: great work, fabulous painterly feel to it, really captured the flowing strokes that Sorolla seemed to do....

zhay: excellent work dude, almost an impressionist look to your work, love the colour palette, can`t really crit it much, apart from the left hand looking a tiny bit small, but that may be just me, and it doesn`t really alter the look of the painting.....

botched: well, this is amazing already, love the way you`re building up the hatch lines, gives it depth.....just wondering if you could work even more darks into the shadows, or is this something you`re going to do later on?

rebecca: thanks, will update soon, and it looks like i have a lot of catching up to do already lol, everyone works so fast!

kris

Mal-1
06-04-2006, 10:17 AM
Mal-1,

Welcome aboard! :) It's great that kris brought you here ~ look forward to seeing more of your work on the Anatomy Forum! :) I think you have a great start here. I quite like the 'looser' approach and have a lot to learn from it. You should definitely check out the work of zhuzhu, whose work is SPOTLIGHTED here:

SPOTLIGHT ARTIST: Best of zhuzhu (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=347429)

I think you will quite like his painterly digital brushstrokes, he is quite an inspiration around here! :)



I have already been lurking around zhuzhu's work and think it is incredible, so much so I posted a link to it at another forum (Art&Artistry), under the heading of "A Digital Master".
Thanks for the welcome, I hope to be around for more of these, it's great to be a part of and a great learning experience.

Thanks Kris for encouraging me to come over and try this out, as well as your comments.

Rebeccak
06-04-2006, 10:51 AM
zhay13,

Sounds great! :thumbsup:

kris,

Thanks for bringing Mal-1 on board! :)

Mal-1,

Ah, that's great to hear that you've discovered zhuzhu! :) It's great to have someone already involved in another online community participate here! :)

Here is my update for today ~ some work on the gun, mainly, and the headpiece thingies ~ 2 flavors, bw, and with a color layer on top:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20017/OFDW-017_comp-21A.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20017/OFDW-017_comp-21B.jpg

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Mu
06-04-2006, 10:58 AM
Hi Rebecca,

the subsurface glow of the ivory on the weapon thingies is just great!

:bowdown:

Mu
06-04-2006, 11:29 AM
spotlight on the decision making process:

two versions with gray layers to bring back unity to the drawing after I had to "lasso tool" many areas of it...

first: charcoal layer set to multiply and then duplicated, mirrored

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1640/unarabe02018lb.jpg


second, 50% grey layer, half transparent and given a paper structure treatment to match the drawing appearance on the canvas underneath

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/697/unarabe02026ub.jpg

figuring it out right now, til later! :)

Mal-1
06-04-2006, 11:58 AM
Ok, going to try another head study. I also thought I should post the WIP's seeing as that is the norm here.

I start off by putting in a ground colour on my canvas then sketch out very loosley the subject. Then I start blocking in areas of colour......I come from a traditional background and so I tend to do everything on one layer, (don't know if that is a good or a bad thing yet??) and allow the ground colour to mix with the subsequent added colours.
Here is were I am at the moment.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/Sorolla1Custom.jpg

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I like to work Pretty fast and try and drag myself away from a piece as not to overwork it, sometimes it works and comes together other times it goes down the pan.
So still blocking in and begin adding some interesting marks to ge the eyes working.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/Sorolla1_001Custom.jpg[url="http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/Sorolla1_001Custom.jpg"] (http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/Sorolla1Custom.jpg)

Mal-1
06-04-2006, 12:41 PM
Finished....well dragged myself away from my Wacom as not to ruin it.....here are the last couple of wip shots...Just a big thanks to all in this thread, whose work I have enjoyed looking at and learning from.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/Sorolla1_002Custom.jpg[/url]

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/Sorolla1_003Custom.jpg[url="http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/Sorolla1_003Custom.jpg"] (http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/Sorolla1_002Custom.jpg)


Can I also ask a quick question.......

When I am not logged on to this site I can view pics imbedded in the posts, but when I am logged on all I see is the image address....is this right, or is there a magic button I can press so that I can see the image imbedded. Thanks in advanced.

paperclip
06-04-2006, 01:04 PM
:eek: Looking darn good, becca! I'm feeling the love here today...lots of really good stuff is coming out of the woodwork!

Mu
06-04-2006, 01:15 PM
Mal-1 - really interesting way of putting things down and very sensual result. Wish you would keep going for a few more hours. (being selfish again...:D )

as concerns pics: in your user control panel you can specify wether or not you want to see images when browsing CGTalk as a logged in user...:)

Mal-1
06-04-2006, 01:44 PM
Thanks Mu, sorted that problem out, and I have read how to post as well...typical male never read the instructions.:rolleyes:

I would also like to spend more time on my paintings but feel I would loose some of that spontanaity and expressiveness if I do, and of course I would be scared to death that I may wreck what I am working on. Thanks for the comments and the help, really appreciate it.:thumbsup:

SpiritDreamer
06-04-2006, 02:54 PM
Rebecca and Everyone

Small update - working on foreground - searching for color values -

Fantastic job everyone! Can't comment on everybody's work but everybody has done a great job in my opinion.

Take Care
Glenn


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/SOROLLA_BEACH_9.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/SOROLLA_BEACH_9_close.jpg

mazalo
06-04-2006, 03:20 PM
Hi all,
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g93/mazalo/SecondHeadsorolla01.jpgjust started second Sorolla head...

mazalo
06-04-2006, 04:13 PM
...and a one hour later...

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g93/mazalo/SecondHeadsorolla02.jpg

Matellis
06-04-2006, 04:43 PM
Hey every , just finished the maste copy , i hope you all like it :)

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/337/tiger234yk.jpg

And here is the other one that i finished a few days ago , i hope you guys like them and crits are most welcome :)

http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/2412/mastercfinish25po.jpg

CHEERS!

BillyBrusher
06-04-2006, 06:16 PM
There's been a lot of great work in this thread, the diversity of approaches to the same subject is so inspirational. This has been my induction to digital painting and the use of Painter 9.5. I have taken Rebecka's advice and altered the lip angle slightly and introduced some green and more random strokes to the background. I am tired of it now though, but I am pleased as it is my first painting using digital media. It has given me enough inspiration to get on with some more painting but I think I will give this one a break and move on to maybe one of the other subjects.

Thanks to all who kindly offered advice and help and of course thanks to Rebecka for her encouragement and advice and a nudge in the right direction

http://www.aqvn76.dsl.pipex.com/images/mypic004.jpg

Rebeccak
06-04-2006, 07:08 PM
Mu,

Thanks! I look forward to seeing your updated version, where I know you have pushed the values further. :)

Clippy,

Thanks!

Mal-1,

I think this is looking really good! One suggestion ~ it would be great if you could save this state, and push it just a bit further. :) I really like the way you started out and all of the gestural strokes. It would be great to see this carried out a bit further into the finished painting with the smaller strokes tied in to the larger just a bit more. :)

Glenn,

Looking really good, coming along nicely!

mazalo,

That's looking great so far!

Matt,

I think you are doing a beautiful job here, but there are several areas that I think need more attention before you might consider your piece finished: :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20017/Matt_Go-To-Bed.jpg

Also this piece is lovely, but there are some areas and edges that could be tweaked a bit ~ the main thing is the wedge between her fingers.


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20017/Matt_Go-To-Bed-2.jpg

BillyBrusher,

This came out quite nicely, and you could frankly tweak the colors should you decide to do so in Photoshop or Painter. The hues seem a bit desaturated, but color is one of the easiest things to correct digitally. This is fantastic work especially for your first piece in Painter, and I really hope that you can participate in future OFDWs! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Corvax
06-04-2006, 07:46 PM
I had a few hours to myself, so I thought I would get cracking on the ofdw :wip: . Its nothing fancy, just a color block in. enjoy :)

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/corvax123/leon-06.jpg
-David rené.

Rebeccak
06-04-2006, 08:13 PM
Ah, David René is in the mix!

Looking forward to seeing your progress on this. Currently he looks a tad short, an easy fix. The helmet also seems a tad oversized, also an easy adjustment to make. Too early to critique, though, really. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

paperclip
06-04-2006, 08:58 PM
David, looking good so far. I'd pay special attention to the face first though, particularly the nose. :)

Update from me:

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4702/zorn9bl.jpg

Rebeccak
06-04-2006, 09:11 PM
Clippy,

I think this is looking great so far! :)

Here is a comparison (thanks for supplying the original):

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20017/Clippy_comparison.jpg


One thing you'll really notice with Sorolla is that he is just a master of color combinations (as well as other things). Throughout his piece he is using the tints of complementary pale yellows and purples which really allow him to express form exquisitely with very little information.

For example on the coat, (bearing in mind the poorness of the reproduction) you can see this illustrated best. He offsets the very light, pale yellow used as a highlight with a bit of yellow ochre and the light bluish purple for the shadows. I think if you play this up in your own piece, that area in particular will have more punch. In your rendering of the sleeve, it looks as though there is more of a white / blue combination, which is working well, but adding more flecks of pale yellow for the highlight and pale purples for the shadows will do wonders, I think.

You see darker, more rich patches / marks really of desaturated purples and yellows in the sleeve. It's subtle, because all of the hues lie roughly within the same value range. Try spiking / offsetting things with the occasional pale yellow mark.

You see the same on the headscarf ~ try using a bit more tinted yellow to really make the scarf apprear as though it is catching the filtered sunlight.

Finally, consider every mark in this piece as a part of a puzzle. For example, the two orange marks / stripes near Zorn's signature very much hold that edge of the painting together. Note their relationship to the pale green and desaturated purple stripes on her dress. Really try to get the widths of these marks, their energy, and their richness into your own painting, which I think will anchor that corner much better.

Looking forward to your progress, you're doing a tremendous job! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

SaraD
06-04-2006, 10:13 PM
Hi again :)
Started on a second one, the Pelt Merchant is on the canvas now. I try to save as many Wip´s as possible.
I don´t want to bombard you with them, so I´ll put all of them over at my own anatomy thread and put selected phases here. Is that alright?

First one out - the basic colors and some structure of the background:
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/OFDW17_2/PeltMerchant_002.jpg

And with some details added (no people yet):
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/OFDW17_2/PeltMerchant_003c.jpg

C´ya!

Mal-1
06-05-2006, 12:02 AM
Against my better judgement, and under Rebecca's helpful guidance I spent about another hour on this image....and you know what I think it paid off, but I'll let you be the judge.:)

Please don't make me do anymore.:sad: :)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/Sorolla1_003aCustom.jpg

paperclip
06-05-2006, 12:42 AM
Please don't make me do anymore.:sad: :)




This won't be the last time you'll be saying this. :) I'm not saying becca's a harsh taskmistress, but she looks at everyone with puppy dog eyes until they give in and work for another 2 squillion hours....

....but here's the thing......

.......it's for your own benefit. You can decide to take it or leave it. Personally I'm taking it, as she knows more than I do and she's also nice about it, so I'm taking advantage of the (FREE!) fantastic art tutor that we have 'lurking' around here.

You could do a lot worse than listen to her when she says 'That's a great 3rd layer out of 9'.

YMS
06-05-2006, 12:51 AM
so I'm taking advantage of the (FREE!) fantastic art tutor that we have 'lurking' around here.
Me, too, paperclip! She's an incredible resource. :)

DigitalSol
06-05-2006, 01:19 AM
Hello everyone, have pass long time since my last update, but I kept wayching the thread, and wow, great work for all, really, this is a very competitive ofdw, here is a little update for mine, it seems that this will be my only piece for this, because my work and other things, see ya soon.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Leon%20Master%20Copy1/ofdw17fa.jpg

default-rol
06-05-2006, 01:56 AM
Finally time I got back to digital painting...

Over and hour in Painter 9, I left his pipe off for health reasons.... :)

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6431/mastercopyportrait7yh.jpg

MIKE

Mal-1
06-05-2006, 01:57 AM
Paperclip, I'm definately sure it won't be the last time....I think the OFDW is a great thread and can't wait for the next one.
Oh and thanks Rebecca, once again.
By the way thought I'd post a close up:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/closeupCustom.jpg

botched
06-05-2006, 04:12 AM
botched: well, this is amazing already, love the way you`re building up the hatch lines, gives it depth.....just wondering if you could work even more darks into the shadows, or is this something you`re going to do later on?

Thanks! Yes... I'll be working in much more darks as I continue. So far I'm still on the first pass at the underdrawing (using only a 3h pencil so far). I plan on doing successive passes with progressively softer pencils to build up the dark areas.

paperclip
06-05-2006, 02:47 PM
Thanks for the great tips, becca, I'll implement them as soon as I can. I never really 'noticed' the color counterpoints you pointed out- I'll think about it much more in my work from now on.


A big CONGRATULATIONS is in order for SaraD who got her work plugged today! Go, sara! You're doing us all proud!

Rebeccak
06-05-2006, 03:00 PM
Thanks for the great tips, becca, I'll implement them as soon as I can. I never really 'noticed' the color counterpoints you pointed out- I'll think about it much more in my work from now on.
Clippy, no problem. You're working hard, keep up the great work! :)

A big CONGRATULATIONS is in order for SaraD who got her work plugged today! Go, sara! You're doing us all proud!
Hey, and it wasn't even plugged by me! :) The best images from this thread (including SaraD's) will still be SPOTLIGHTED at the conclusion of this Workshop.

I'll be out most of today but it's great to see everyone's work! Mike, it's great to see you here and I look forward to your progress! :)

Just so everyone knows, I will be out most of this week and into next week, starting tomorrow with limited to no internet access. Please continue to post your work and to offer comment and critique on others' pieces as you guys have been doing beautifully! Thanks for everyone's participation here, I will definitely be checking in if I can this week, and if not, after Friday.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SaraD
06-05-2006, 03:08 PM
Thanks for the congrats!
How did I get a plug? Is that a recommendation from someone or? I was very surprised when I recognized my painting in the top :)

Rebeccak
06-05-2006, 03:18 PM
SaraD,

Any forum leader or admin can plug great artwork. :) Someone else saw your work in the Gallery and plugged it. Congrats! :applause:

I think it's great that someone outside of the Workshop is recognizing the great work that is coming out of the OFDWs! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Mu
06-05-2006, 06:25 PM
darkened everything down like announced and am having a much easier job now with bringing the high values out...

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5259/unarabe0229nx.jpg

Matellis
06-05-2006, 06:40 PM
Hey mu and everyone else! they are all coming along really well , no crits just thumbs up and im really ennjoying watching everyone progress :)

paperclip
06-05-2006, 09:13 PM
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/9091/zorn4mn.jpg


Updatey!

I know I'll never be done, so I've given up asking if I am. :D I did implement your suggestions though, becca, so I hope it looks a bit better now.

Mu: I wish I could crit that but I'm not sure what to say exactly. I'm always better at critting colored pieces, no idea why.

Rebeccak
06-05-2006, 10:34 PM
Mu,

Darkening definitely helped! Looking forward to seeing your progress. :)

Clippy,

That's looking great! I think the changes you made are really working, and made the image stronger. :)

The subtle yellows are working great I think, and have really brightened the picture quite a bit:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20017/Paperclip_Review-02.gif

I think you can say you're finished. ;)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Mu
06-05-2006, 10:54 PM
I illegally went to high in the high values, but I am not finished after all, hehehe

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/717/unarabe0234lt.jpg

Rebeccak
06-05-2006, 10:55 PM
Clippy,

When you are totally sure you are finished (use the force and decide) ;) then please post here an 800 pixel wide version as well as a linked hi~res image. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

krispee
06-05-2006, 11:30 PM
ok, worked on this a bit more.......mostly around the facial area, trying to get the anatomy right.....

http://www.fluidimage.co.uk/images/sorollaheadstudy_wip2.jpg

mu: i like the start on this, everything looks in place, be great to see some colour....

paperclip: nice update, looks finished to me too....

rebecca: you mentioned the colours, maybe it`s because i`ve started this with a dark background, seems easier to get more depth to the colours, greater saturation, coming from that than it is from a light background.....

kris

paperclip
06-05-2006, 11:43 PM
I have consulted the Oracle at Delphi and it tells me I'm finished.

Here's that 800px wide image you asked for:
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/8983/800pxzorn9sm.jpg



high res:http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/9595/highreszorn4mb.jpg

DigitalSol
06-06-2006, 12:06 AM
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Leon%20Master%20Copy1/ofdwl.jpg

Matellis
06-06-2006, 12:28 AM
Hey everyone I finished the Master Copy.
Thansk rebecca for keeping me going with this , and i may finish the wall someday ;)

FRONT PAGE! WOOT!

CHEERS :)

http://features.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/144529/144529_1149507479_large.jpg

daWinky
06-06-2006, 05:53 AM
Morning everyone!

Congrats for the finished pieces of Matt and SaraD, seen them on the frontpage:thumbsup: !
Paperclip: Now we need yours in the gallery, very well done!:applause:
I'm still struggling here with my Bashi-Bazouk...Enrique: Glad to see that you are still working on it too:) ...

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/daWinky/Black_Bashi-Bazouk_wip11.jpg

-sabrina

Rebeccak
06-06-2006, 06:45 AM
krispee,

That's looking great, keep up the good work! :)

Clippy,

You have chosen wisely, ;) thanks for the larger images! :)

Enrique,

Wow, that fabric is looking simply fantastic, I hope you will get the chance to finish this! :)

Matt,

Congrats! :applause: We're all really happy for you! :)

Sabie,

The fabric is also looking amazing, I think my only suggestion would be to start to give the face the same amount of dimensionality. Fantastic update! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

paperclip
06-06-2006, 08:06 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/92679/92679_1149545202_small.jpg (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=366545)<<--click for the gallery thread.


Thanks, becca.:)

Sure is nice being done...i might have gone insane otherwise, rofl.

DaWinky....darken some of these darks a little?


EDIT: We need another round of applause for Matellis who reached the front page today! :applause:

EDIT 2: Just a little note to say a big 'thank you' to becca who knows how to keep pushing to get the best out of people. :huge:

daWinky
06-06-2006, 08:13 AM
Sabie,The fabric is also looking amazing, I think my only suggestion would be to start to give the face the same amount of dimensionality. Fantastic update!

Becca, thanks for the crit! I really hesitate to smooth the face more...perhaps I'm on the wrong way for a mastercopy, but my intention is to work out a certain difference between the absurd clothing and the face...fact is, that I don't like the guy...Bashi-Bazouks have been irregular soldiers of the former Osmanian army, not paid, so they got what they want from depredation and they've been infamous for their brutality among the civil population...So I've just tried to catch his arrogant look, more than working out the face...
Just some thoughts, but perhaps I'll give the face another chance befor finishing!

Paperclip, thank's for the good suggestion:) , somehow I'm far from finishing...

Have a nice day!

-sabrina

Rebeccak
06-06-2006, 08:37 AM
Clippy,

Thanks for that link, that's a great idea! :)

Sabie,

Wow, that's so interesting that you chose to do this portrait, despite your aversion to the character. And what insight you've provided, of course I've been looking at this at face value alone. It's interesting how psychologically one is affected by subject matter ~ I'm kind of fascinated by the fact that you chose to render a painting of a character which you have unpleasant knowledge of.

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Mal-1
06-06-2006, 10:15 AM
I didn't know where to post this, still getting used to this vast site, anyway please feel free to remove this post if not suitable for this thread.:)

I have, mostly thanks to this thread, become addicted to learning from the great masters, so much so I took it upon myself to do a John Singer Sargeant copy.
I really took my time with this an tried to capture each stroke I could see. Apart from the cheek on our right, which looks a little too long, I think I cracked it, but I would like some expert advise from you talented bunch on how I could still improve things.
Thanks for looking.

Original:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/Sargent_John_Singer_Eugene_Juillera.jpg


My Effort:


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/SargentEugeneJuilleratCopyCustom.jpg

Close Up:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/SargentEugeneJuilleratCopycloseupCu.jpg

DiM
06-06-2006, 10:21 AM
Wow! Great work! I like yor technik!

SpiritDreamer
06-06-2006, 10:37 AM
Hi....Mark....:thumbsup: ......maybe just a little more shadow around chin area and under lower lip..
the chin is a hair to long also///just minor stuff....also needs that dark background finished ...
helps to creat the mood....really got the likeness down.....GREAT JOB...:applause:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

DiM
06-06-2006, 11:26 AM
Hi all!

I started new copy:)
http://dimm3d.mail333.com/baron_test/bb1.jpg

mazalo
06-06-2006, 02:23 PM
...just finished second Sorolla head study...hope you like it...:)


http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g93/mazalo/SecondHeadsorolla800with.jpg

..and here is link to full size:

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g93/mazalo/SecondHeadsorollafull.jpg

Rebeccak
06-06-2006, 02:56 PM
Mal-1 / Mark,

Fantastic job with the Sargent piece! I think this one is turning out really beautifully, I love the warm sense of light that you have captured. :) I don't mind this here at all, keep up the good work! :)

DiM,

Fantastic to see you starting a new copy! :thumbsup:

mazalo,

I think this is looking great, :thumbsup: but are you sure it's finished? What does everyone think? :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

DiM
06-06-2006, 03:02 PM
Thanks Rebecca.
Good work mazalo.
Next hour and next detail.
http://dimm3d.mail333.com/baron_test/bb2.jpg

DigitalSol
06-06-2006, 03:54 PM
Matellis, amazing job well deserved the fron page, congratulations.

daWinky. Thanks, for a moment I tought that I couldn't but, here I'm, yours is going great keep it up :)

Rebecca. Thank you so much, I hope so too.

Paperclip. amazing copy, really, it owns a traditional media feel. For me when you get that in a digital media, you can say you did a great job.

Hey Mal-1, fantastic job on that copy.

Dim. on the way to do another amazing copy.

Mazalo. Good job at the head study, I like a lot the palette you choose.

A little update for mine.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Leon%20Master%20Copy1/ofdw17m.jpg

Critics and comments are very welcome

aggie93
06-06-2006, 04:35 PM
Hey guys, I'm back! I am doing "black". He will be completely charcoal. Here is my OFDW WIP:

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/5862/blackbashibazouk0606050ep.jpg

Sol - you like photobucket now. They completely axed me. I went to imageshack. I am liking it. It is easy to upload because it has a tool bar to download that goes into your explorer.

DigitalSol
06-06-2006, 05:21 PM
It seems that PB is getting some errors, I haven't realized that my image was incomplete till now, thanks for the advise Aggie, think I will move to imageshack too


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Leon%20Master%20Copy1/ofdw17ma.jpg

Mu
06-06-2006, 05:33 PM
En! - Ri! - Que!

the values and the reflection edges on the dress look just otherworldy real...:eek:

:cry:

DigitalSol
06-06-2006, 06:17 PM
Thanks a lot Mr Mu, glad it likes you :D thanks for the comment, I always apreciate them :)

DigitalSol
06-06-2006, 06:59 PM
Here is a colorized test version
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Leon%20Master%20Copy1/ofdw17n.jpg

aggie93
06-06-2006, 08:52 PM
Sol - PB said I had nudes depicted on it. Go figure.... art! It is a violation of their terms.

BillyBrusher
06-06-2006, 10:19 PM
DigitalSol : Wow that is such a realistic colour render, I love the mono colour version as well its so real. You got the colour spot on and I predict your final image will be so very good, a true artist and great colourist too. Well done, I will soon attempt your workflow to see how it feels, I am very new to digital painting so I must try as many ways to produce the colour as I can.
Well done and I will follow your updates

Billy

agou
06-06-2006, 10:29 PM
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4612/378/1600/%3F%3Ftude-sorolla.jpg

Now I'm joining this workshop, I think it will help me. Here is my first step of my WIP, I began with a quick B&W sketch for lights and shadows.

krispee
06-06-2006, 10:36 PM
right i think i might be finished with this now.....

http://www.fluidimage.co.uk/images/sorollaheadstudy_finish.jpg

let me know if you spot anything amiss, not sure i can do anything about it as my poor computer is only just able to cope with the size of the painting......

kris

DigitalSol
06-06-2006, 10:58 PM
They dont have the right for do that, do they?, I mean one thing is forbid the nude photos but other is take down your account, that is silly, since is not pornography they are artistic nudes, (moving now to imageshack).

Billy, thanks a lot for your kind words, hope the progress and the final result likes you.:D

Mal-1
06-07-2006, 01:11 AM
Thanks for all the hints, I really apppreciate it. Thanks Rebecca.

Kris great study of a study....your colours are great.

mazalo...great movement in your piece, the background on our right looks a little unfinished and detracts away from the portrait for me, but you have captured the feel of the original brilliantly.

Agou...great start will look forward to the development of this.

Digisol.....looks amazing so far, especially the shirt.

DiM
06-07-2006, 08:11 AM
Hi all! Next day and next hour.
http://dimm3d.mail333.com/baron_test/bb3.jpg

aggie93
06-07-2006, 01:31 PM
They dont have the right for do that, do they?, I mean one thing is forbid the nude photos but other is take down your account, that is silly, since is not pornography they are artistic nudes, (moving now to imageshack).

Billy, thanks a lot for your kind words, hope the progress and the final result likes you.:D

Sol - It does mention no nudity in the terms. I thought that meant porn or actual photos of naked people. I did not know it meant traditional or digital art. I am taking it as a complement. They actually thought my renderings of naked people were detailed enough.

aggie93
06-07-2006, 01:36 PM
I am finished with "Black". I got to get on with other things. It is charcoal on heavy stock 19 x 24.

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9681/blackbashibazoukfinal8lu.jpg

Skjoldbroder
06-07-2006, 08:57 PM
He =) I guess lots of peeps finished theirs already. Unfortunately I'm in the middle of my exams so I can't find much time for it.

here's another couple of hour's progress, though :D I've made some basic proportion mistakes but I'm enjoying myself too much to go back and correct it, since I'd have to do a LOT of work :)


http://www.skjoldbroder.dk/arab_paint5.jpg

DigitalSol
06-07-2006, 09:59 PM
Agou, good work overall, maybe you should add some transparency dynamics to the brush.

Kris, Fantastic job, I already like it.

Dim, You have a strong start there, keep it up.

Aggie, good work on the values.

Plaf, amazing job, traditional media is something wornderful.

Here is a little update for mine, critics and comments are welcome as always, thanks to all.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Leon%20Master%20Copy1/ofdw17ocopy.jpg

Mu
06-08-2006, 08:15 AM
Hi Enrique,


I think the values on the sleeve are just a little bit to high.
That is all I can think of right now...

plaf - hope you keep on working on this one as it's turning out to be real good. The wall on the left I like especially!

Rist
06-08-2006, 11:22 AM
I've known the functions of pgotoshop for years now, but never really painted with the software. I have also recently been studying the advanced features to improve images. So now I think I am ready to try and learn to paint in the medium. For those who know my work should know I have some experience with traditional Oils, but for this I will be working in photoshop.

I think this will force me to create some new custom brushes to try and to try and adopt a personal style.

One question, does it have to be exactly like the master piece? Or can i adopt my own brush work, but keep to the colour scheme and positioning of the master copy. I will also do my initial sketch traditionally as I am most used to sketching this way. Maybe in the future when I create a custom brush that closely resembles realsketching, then i might convert to that way, but for now I will stick to pencil/pen/ink.

I don't have an image just yet. Just wanting to say that I will be starting one and a little introduction. I seem to like doing this as its better than bashing through the workshop door and throwing you my canvas with the painting on it, without an invite!

Almost forgot, this (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20017/06_Leon_Pelt-Merchant.jpg) is what I have chosen to work with.

Ego
06-08-2006, 01:09 PM
Hi Enrique, your painting is turning out really gorgeous. I am with Mu on the issue of the sleeve hues. Maybe tone it down a bit so its softer on the eye. :thumbsup: And I see you are about to start working on the head gear. I'll say a little prayer for you :p

Hey Mark and Kris, its so good to see you guys here. Keep up the good work.

@Fl3wk: Welcome to the OFDW! Everyone is welcome. The more the merrier.

botched
06-08-2006, 04:01 PM
Here's last night's progress. I've finished the first render pass and have begun to go back in with softer pencils to take care of the darker areas (so far just the face).

http://www.botched.com/sketches/060706_sketch5.jpg

paperclip
06-08-2006, 04:29 PM
I got an email from someone at www.cgbrainchild.com (http://www.cgbrainchild.com) asking if they could put up a couple of my works on their site and they picked the Mona for one of them! It's on the front page. :D


Yay for ODFW17!

Lute
06-08-2006, 04:41 PM
Congratulations :)
and its a beautiful indeed....

BurntBob
06-08-2006, 05:40 PM
Hi all, finally got a Wacom tablet a week ago and this is my first effort with it. It's been fantastic to get to use all those Photoshop brushes at last. I really enjoyed the task as it's not something I would usually do but now I'm hooked! I need to get used to the tablet and playing about with the brush settings a bit more but any comments will be gratefully received. Always a bit daunting putting your work up to scrutiny but what the heck?!
Cheers!

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i56/BurntBob/OFDW/OFDW_017.jpg (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i56/BurntBob/OFDW/OFDW_017.jpg)

DigitalSol
06-08-2006, 06:28 PM
Mu. thanks for the obsercation, will inmediatly work on it right now,:wip: and thanks for the comments.

Fl3wk, it good to have you on board, hope to see your work soon, I think that a reinterpretation of the piece is very welcome.

Hi Queenie, thanks for the coments and the crits, I really take note of everything, hahaha, thanks the hat of the bashi is something that I have been avoiding, but at last Im closing to it, maybe the OFDW18 should be the bashi's hat, please pray for me. :wavey:

Botched, fantastic work with the pencils :thumbsup:

paperclip, congratulations, well deserved. :)

DigitalSol
06-08-2006, 07:20 PM
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Leon%20Master%20Copy1/ofdw17p.jpg

Ego
06-08-2006, 07:54 PM
Hi Enrique thats very much better.

botched
06-09-2006, 08:21 AM
Okay, here's the last pencil stage. I went over some of the darker areas... but I got anxious to get going with the painting...

http://www.botched.com/sketches/060806_sketch6.jpg

In Photoshop I extended the hatch lines out to the edge of the image, then duplicated the layer and set the top layer to multiply... a quick way to build up the pencil work.

http://www.botched.com/sketches/060806_sketch7.jpg


Next, I darked the overall image, focusing more on the background...

http://www.botched.com/sketches/060806_sketch8.jpg

I knew I wasn't going to be focusing on the actual background, so I decided just to put some random textures in with various photoshop brushes...

http://www.botched.com/sketches/060806_sketch9.jpg

I started in here with color... aaargh. Always my downfall. Well... here we go, both feet first...

http://www.botched.com/sketches/060806_sketch10.jpg

Started in with painting the face... I've never really painted like this before... so I'm sure to make lots of mistakes... feel free to point me in different directions!

http://www.botched.com/sketches/060806_sketch11.jpg

Okay... that's it for tonight's progress. about 3 hours this time.

Botched, fantastic work with the pencils :thumbsup:
Thanks! Your painting tutorial completely rocks! Thanks for that!

DigitalSol
06-09-2006, 03:14 PM
Botched, thanks for the compliment, glad the tut, was interesting for you, your pianting is turning out great, hope to see it finished, are you using only PS for the color or another traditional media?, the background totally rocks, see ya.

DigitalSol
06-09-2006, 03:25 PM
My update, hope u like it, critics and coments are welcome
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Leon%20Master%20Copy1/ofdw17op.jpg

aggie93
06-09-2006, 03:32 PM
Blotch - liked the step by step. So you do a drawing outside the computer first, then scan it in to paint with the computer? I am a CG illiterate. Crit... the left ankle looks a little wide, maybe it is just the angle of the leg. Other than that great construction with the pencil.

mazalo
06-09-2006, 04:23 PM
Hi all ..here is my latest Sorrola copy...

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g93/mazalo/LastHeadsorollaw800CGT.jpg

here is a link to hi res...:

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g93/mazalo/LastHeadsorollaFinish.jpg

DigitalSol
06-09-2006, 04:28 PM
Love the traditional look in your paint, amazing :applause:

botched
06-09-2006, 04:47 PM
Botched, thanks for the compliment, glad the tut, was interesting for you, your pianting is turning out great, hope to see it finished, are you using only PS for the color or another traditional media?, the background totally rocks, see ya.

DigitalSol,

For this one all coloring/painting will be in photoshop... as far as I know right now, at least. By the way, at what resolution is your piece? Thanks!

botched
06-09-2006, 04:50 PM
Blotch - liked the step by step. So you do a drawing outside the computer first, then scan it in to paint with the computer? I am a CG illiterate. Crit... the left ankle looks a little wide, maybe it is just the angle of the leg. Other than that great construction with the pencil.
aggie93,

Yes... I haven't done many digital paintings like this - so it's not like I have a set system... But yes, I did the actual drawing in pencil on paper, scanned that into the computer, and now I'm doing all the painting in photoshop.

As for the ankle... now that you mention it, it does look a little thick... I'll have to keep a closer eye on the reference! Thanks!

DigitalSol
06-09-2006, 04:53 PM
Botched, is at 2500px * 3300px at 300dpi's, thanks for the quick answer.

DigitalSol
06-09-2006, 05:04 PM
Hey BurntBob, don't know why your post appears just recently, oh well:shrug:, for your first efford and for any affort, is just fantastic, congrats, you must to have a solid artistis base.

Rist
06-09-2006, 07:13 PM
Ok this post might take 24hrs to post :banghead:

Here is my first draft. I've been having A LOT of difficulty with this one, I suppose I seemt o always pick the most complicated pieces :shrug:

I know the proportions are alittle wrong, but I've scanned it in photoshop and will correct the on there as well as marking out the dark areas.

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/8871/peltguy5ux.jpg

I think I started on one too advanced. I will choose a less detailed one, maybe one of the nude ones.

BTW, if this new validation feature i got on my account, that limits my post doesnt go, it will force me not to bother in participating in these activities. Mainly due to time differences with how fast the admin can validat my posts!

Elliepower
06-09-2006, 08:46 PM
Hi,

I didn't forget this, a bit rough but finished, hehe.

Great work, whereever I take a look in this thread!

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/ofdw17_final.jpg

DigitalSol
06-09-2006, 10:45 PM
Ellie just amazing work love the feeling that your paint owns.

Here is mine, right now Im in the hat.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Leon%20Master%20Copy1/ofdw17q.jpg

YMS
06-10-2006, 09:12 AM
Hi again.

Looks like I am going to need the whole four weeks to finish just this one... :)

My previous updates are pages back, now, but here's my latest. Been working on it, just not enough obvious changes to post.
Still lots of tidying up to do with respect to values and colours, but it looks doable, now.
(I'll just have to live with her squashed torso and big head.)

Burntbob excellent work on getting Mona in proportion! Can't believe this is your first go with your tablet.

Fantastic work in this thread, everyone! :thumbsup:

http://spacific.net.nz/yms/Mona_9.jpg

SwissGirl
06-10-2006, 05:36 PM
Hi all,

I am really happy to found this page and this forum its great to see all this pictures, but I am a little bit affraid to post some of my "tryouts" in copying this references because I am a reall beginner also in reall drawing on the paper (Anatomy, face, and all other stuff;o)...) So my question is if its okay to post my work here or if you have a special thread for "absolutly beginners" ;o)

Sorry for my bad english I am a swiss and totaly not used to writte or speak english


Cheers,

SwissGirl

YMS
06-11-2006, 12:10 AM
Hi, SwissGirl, welcome! :)

Anyone (beginners and up) can take part in this workshop. (Which copy will you be working on?)

(I'm also a beginner in painting, drawing, and anatomy, but still took part here.)

There is also a Beginners' Lounge in this forum so feel free to post in both. (Sorry for the clunky code below; not sure how to give you a straight forward link...)

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3624393#post3624393 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3624393#post3624393)

botched
06-11-2006, 04:26 AM
Today's progress... a couple more hours in photoshop... Not extremely excited about how the skin tones are comeing out... but I'll stick with my base colors and do so tweaking farther down the road.

http://www.botched.com/sketches/061006_sketch12.jpg

A couple detail shots at %100

http://www.botched.com/sketches/060106_detail1.jpg

http://www.botched.com/sketches/060106_detail2.jpg

botched
06-11-2006, 07:47 AM
Okay... one more for today. Mid section and part of the leg... another 1.5 hours...

http://www.botched.com/sketches/061006_sketch13.jpg

Mal-1
06-11-2006, 01:44 PM
Botched....superb work on this from start to finish.
Digitalsol....I envy the patience you have to do such fantastic work, fantastic!!

Here is a little study sketch, working really fast, just trying to get a feel for the piece:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/PeltMerchantCustom.jpg

pushav
06-11-2006, 08:16 PM
Nice job everyone!

It has been a loooooong time. I have been super busy and I still am. this is what I have so far on the zorn painting...........

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/pusha-v/wip/mixtapezornmonasofar.jpg

I will update this thing when I have the time.

Mal-1
06-12-2006, 12:07 AM
From my little practice sketch above I decide to do another more in depth copy of the Pelt Merchant. So far 1.5 hrs in Painter, doing a lot of blending, which is not my usual style, but wanted to get the right look for the painting.


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/PeltMerchant2Custom.jpg

Mal-1
06-12-2006, 12:45 AM
Can those people who have painted this piece in this thread please tell me....

Out of 1 to 10, how hard is it to paint tiger skin!!:scream:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/PeltMerchant2_001Custom.jpg

botched
06-12-2006, 06:57 AM
Okay... I think I'm fairly happy with the basic rendering, though I probably need to give it a rest and come back to it fresh... Another 2 hours in photoshop...

http://www.botched.com/sketches/061106_sketch14.jpg

daWinky
06-12-2006, 07:50 AM
Morning!

Ellie - I really like your version, congrats for finishing! Die einzige Kritik betrifft die Schreibweise von "Merchant"...:D

Enrique - just amazing work:thumbsup: , can't wait to see this finished, good luck with the hat, it almost killed all my patience...

YMS - Nice progress with your Mona!

botched - looove how your work comes along, the detail shots are great!:thumbsup:

everyone else - keep up the good work here!

Still work needed for my piece, but I hope I'm closer now to finish...

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/daWinky/Black_Bashi-Bazouk_wip12.jpg

Have all a nice day!

-sabrina

Mu
06-12-2006, 09:09 AM
botched - this is turning out wonderful in digital.


One question: when you added the background, did you take care not to paint over the figure or did you create a mask to get wild within, or did you use some other technique to separate the bg from the figure?

mazalo - totally in love with the look of your strokes on that

enrique - just wow -stop- Sleeve values fine -stop- totally in awe -stop-

SwissGirl
06-12-2006, 09:31 AM
Hi YMS

Thanks for the reply;O) I just saw your picture and compare to me you are deffinitly not a beginner,o))) but anyway I will try to do one of the nude Ref. pic`s in order to learn more in anatomy! I try to start this evening!!


SwissGirl

SaraD
06-12-2006, 10:54 AM
Worked some more on this wonderfully arrogant man :)

http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/OFDW17_2/PeltMerchant_006.jpg

botched
06-12-2006, 05:46 PM
botched - this is turning out wonderful in digital.

One question: when you added the background, did you take care not to paint over the figure or did you create a mask to get wild within, or did you use some other technique to separate the bg from the figure?

Thanks Mu,

The background was done first, then I painted up the figure on seperate layers... somewhat "wild"... then went back and erased what went "outside the lines".

Mal-1
06-12-2006, 05:52 PM
Getting there slowly but surely.....


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/PeltMerchant2_003Custom.jpg

Mal-1
06-12-2006, 07:51 PM
Needed to correct that eye which I think I have done, please tell me if you think otherwise.:)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/PeltMerchant2_005Custom.jpg

SwissGirl
06-12-2006, 08:54 PM
Hi YMS

Thanks for the info, I just had a look on your pictures and compare to me you are definitly not a beginner ;o)) but anyway, I will try to draw one of the nude refs, to learn more in anatomy
hopefully I can post soon something to get some good help.

SwissGirl

Rebeccak
06-12-2006, 08:56 PM
It is great to see all the new work and the new people who have joined! To all the new folks, welcome! :)

It will probably take me a bit to catch up on everything (just got back into town), but just wanted to say that everyone is doing a great job, and to remind folks that you still have til June 18th to finish work on your pieces.

Keep up the great work! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

SaraD
06-13-2006, 10:13 AM
Some update on face, fullsize and closeup
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/OFDW17_2/PeltMerchant_007.jpg

http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/OFDW17_2/PeltMerchant_006_face3.jpg

SpiritDreamer
06-13-2006, 11:37 PM
Hi Rebecca and Everyone:

Been awhile while since I updated. I finally had a chance to get back to this painting. Worked on faces of the main figures mostly. And the guy's hat, which has a zillion colors in it!
That's it for today

Great Job Everyone!

Take Care
Glenn


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/SOROLLA_BEACH_14.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/SOROLLA_BEACH_close_14.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/SOROLLA_BEACH_hat_14.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/SOROLLA_BEACH_woman_14.jpg

DigitalSol
06-14-2006, 04:16 PM
Wow Glenn, amazing job, the color scheme is just wondefull, I only hope to see this finished soon. :D

agou
06-14-2006, 10:44 PM
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4612/378/1600/%3F%3Ftude2.jpg

Here is my (little) second step. I am not in the habit of making 2-hours drawings, but I go on... There, I'm testing artrage, really nice software for oil-painting-style drawings.

Mu
06-15-2006, 12:58 PM
EDIT: ok, can see it now, dont worry


agou, I cant see your picture...

try to link again?

Mal-1
06-15-2006, 01:44 PM
I think this is finished.....this is the longest I have ever worked on a digital piece...about 4.5hrs in total.Thanks for looking.


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/Mal-1/PeltMerchant2_006Custom.jpg

SaraD
06-15-2006, 02:00 PM
Leaving the face and expression for now, and turning my interest to the clothes.... I dread the tiger-skin:scream: Let´s see how long I can avoid it :thumbsup:
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/OFDW17_2/PeltMerchant_009.jpg

Mu
06-15-2006, 02:13 PM
worked on the face and hood mainly.

None of the values is higher than a 50% grey at the moment...HEAR ME REBECCA!??!

:D

damn, another vive minutes and I am off... Ecuador-Costa Rica wants my attention...


http://muratkayi.de/cpg/albums/userpics/10002/unArabe_024.jpg

DigitalSol
06-15-2006, 02:45 PM
Back in a few for ctritics and coments. :)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Leon%20Master%20Copy1/ofdw17r.jpg

DigitalSol
06-15-2006, 04:44 PM
Hey Sara, great wrok on the face, already looks pretty good, that pelt is the hard thing on the merchant piece, good luck on that, overall excellent work :thumbs up:

Mal, yours look pretty good too, the texture on all the paint looks awesome, good job.

Mu, that look really great, cant wait to see when you push up the values, can I know what brush are u using? it owns a very interesting texture. Ecuador will win that game, tomorrow plays Mexico!! :buttrock: I really love soccer :bounce:

Mu
06-15-2006, 10:56 PM
enrique, Mexiko played great at Confederations Cup last year and I hope they can qualify for the round of sixteen.

The brush is PainterIX.5's charcoal brush (I think it's soft charcoal, but I am not too sure ,atm) For accentuated lines I use another of the charcoal variants, namely the charcoal pen (direct translation from the german version which sometimes differs from english names)

The texture is created by the paper structure I chose in Painter and then you can specify how much the variant makes use of that paper structure by using a "structure"-slider. Absolutely ingenious system, imo. You can also specify the lightness and contrast of the paper for newly applied strokes.

In addition to that I also applied some surface texture (independant Painter dialog under "effects") which applies a combination of paper structure and directional lighting to the surface.


And I did all of that before the thing is finished...:scream: I should get my priorities straight...

However, the WC in Germany is top priority at the moment for me, so that I will have to work on this for longer than the 18th to get it finished...

DigitalSol
06-15-2006, 11:16 PM
I where about to go to Germany for the firs game, but I couldn't bacause my work :cry:, but every day I watch the games and I will be there in 3 days :D , I think that Germany have all to get the cup, you are who played better from the strong teams, I think that we surely will be at final quarters, from there I dont know.

And thanks for the explanation.

SpiritDreamer
06-16-2006, 12:08 AM
THANKS....Enrique...more work on this one than I imagined...but getting there slowly but surely.....been admirering everyones work and progress for the last month....to many to comment on...I am not that great or fast at typing...but I think that every one has done a FANTASTIC JOB....REALLY INSPIREING...:thumbsup: :applause: :bounce:



OFDW 17
June 15, 2006

Hi Rebecca and Everyone

Worked on this a good part of the day. Fine tuning, colors, middle ground and foreground. Worked on baskets, faces, arms and hands etc.
Still alot of fine tuning to do.
But finally coming down the home stretch.

Take Care Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/SOROLLA_BEACH_16.jpg

eilidh
06-16-2006, 12:52 AM
After 34 pages all I can say is -- amazing work, people. It's been inspiring (by seeing how wonderful some of the finished results are!) and informative (to watch how people work in between stages).

I suppose I'm very late, but I thought I'd join in for something quick. I went for the first of the Sorolla head studies.

Painter, about 2,5-3 hours in total.

first three stages:
http://users.tellas.gr/%7Eeilidh/misc/sorolla-headstudysteps.jpg
The first one isn't very early on, because I forgot to save. :) At any rate, I started by blocking in the main colours, trying to find the forms as I worked on them. This was done hastily, and I spent a lot of time in the next two steps correcting it, up to the point where I had to cut and paste his whole lower jaw, beard and all.


http://users.tellas.gr/%7Eeilidh/misc/sorolla-palette.png
My palette -- though I didn't use all the colours. I mainly settled for ochres and umbers, and used the brighter colours as glazes so that it wouldn't get too muddy. The blue wasn't used at all -- a simple grey worked where I thought I'd initially seen blue.
I found myself a lot of the time alternating between venetian red and raw umber (fifth on top row) a lot while working on the skin. I was quite at home with this, because I often use greens as shadows in my own skintones.

final image:
http://users.tellas.gr/%7Eeilidh/misc/sorolla-headstudy.jpg
I liked the small red dot on the inner corner of his eye in the original -- really makes a difference -- so I copied it too. :)