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RCAS
05-18-2006, 05:23 PM
MOD EDIT: CGS Article >>LINK<< (http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=3583&page=)


Elephants Dream official website (http://www.elephantsdream.org/).
Blendernation news article (http://www.blendernation.com/2006/05/18/the-worlds-first-open-movie-released/).
Blender official website (http://www.blender.org/).
Blender Artists resources and forum (http://www.blenderartists.org/).
Digg item (http://digg.com/movies/Elephants_Dream,_the_Open_3D_Animated_Movie_Released_On-line).

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May 18, 2006
For Immediate Release

Elephants Dream, internet release of the first 3D ‘Open Movie’

(Blender Foundation, Amsterdam, the Netherlands) - The 3D animated short ‘Elephants Dream’ will today be released as a free and public download. This is the final stage of a successfully completed Open Movie project; which has been community-financed, using Open Source tools only, and opening up the movie itself as well as the entire studio database for everyone to re-use and learn from. The movie and production files are licensed as “Creative Commons Attribution 2.5″, which only requires a proper crediting for public screening, re-using and distribution.

In the past weeks, the donating sponsors have received the dual DVD set of this project in their mailbox. This DVD set remains for sale via the blender.org e-shop as support product for future Open Movie projects. The Blender Foundation is committed to start working on similar projects soon.

The movie files and download mirrors can be accessed here:
http://www.elephantsdream.org/download

Elephants Dream is the culmination of Project Orange, produced by the Blender Foundation and the Netherlands Media Art Institute. The project was conceived to help develop and establish the capabilities of the Blender 3D open source tool for the creation of cinema quality animation.

The film tells the story of Emo and Proog, two people with different visions on the surreal world in which they live. Viewers are taken on a journey through that world, full of strange mechanical birds, stunning technological vistas and machinery that seems to have a life of its own.

‘Elephants Dream’ features the voice talents of renowned Dutch movie actors Tygo Gernandt and Cas Jansen, as well as an original score by German composer Jan Morgenstern. The short brought together the talents of a team of artists from countries as diverse as Syria, Germany, Australia, Finland, and the Netherlands. In addition to the performances of the cast and creative efforts of the lead artists, Elephants Dream has had the assistance of hundreds of individuals across the world who contributed a variety of work such as programming additional functionality for Blender, creating textures used in some of the scenes, and providing international translations for the DVD release.

The files have been released on two DVDs with the movie in PAL, NTSC and HD formats, a making-of documentary, and all of the studio files. The DVDs have been shipped early May 2006. As promised, shortly after, the movie and database of source material will be made available for public download as well.

Studio Orange team:
Director: Bassam Kurdali (Syria /USA),
Art Director: Andreas Goralczyk (Germany)
Lead Artists: Matt Ebb (Australia), Bastian Salmela (Finland), Lee Salvemini (Australia)
Technical Director: Toni Alatalo (Finland)

For more information:

http://www.elephantsdream.org (http://www.elephantsdream.org/)
http://www.blender.org (http://www.blender.org/)

Contact:
Ton Roosendaal
Chairman, Blender Foundation
Email: ton(at)blender.org

Ls3D
05-18-2006, 05:57 PM
WOW! Congratulations to all who worked on this revolutionary project.

I'm a bit of a surrealist and so the concepts and environment were most enjoyable. I will have to watch it a few more time, but so far the point of the story is subtle, and without much release. The lip sync was a bit loose for my taste, but overall an amazing and excellent production.

-Shea

EDIT: Ok I've watched it two more times now and I have bonded with emmo enough to get more release and irony from the ending. Upon further review it seems to be a metaphor of religious oppression. Don't miss this!

Duhast
05-18-2006, 06:14 PM
Downloading now

gabio
05-18-2006, 06:14 PM
Got my copy of the DVD and I must say I've never seen a blender project so big. Copied both DVDs on my Hd to get the complet production tree and I'm good for a good week of exploration in all the project files. Of course such a big project wasn't possible before and the relative path linking sure helped to organise and colabor.

*edit* I think this project is worth a frontpage?

Joblh
05-18-2006, 07:38 PM
awesome movie, and especially considering it's made with blender, 5 stars!

the animation and story were lacking a bit, but visually nothing to complain!

mech7
05-18-2006, 07:41 PM
:bounce:awesome im going to watch it

vlad74
05-18-2006, 07:50 PM
Congratulations guys. Amazing job. Thank you for present. :bowdown:

LetterRip
05-18-2006, 08:07 PM
Joblh,

awesome movie, and especially considering it's made with blender, 5 stars!

Actually they were a driving force behind Blender maturing in various directions, including character animation, rigging and weighting improvements, particle based hair, materials (node based materials system), compositing (node based compositing system), and rendering (good quality vector blur, bucket rendering architecture, and the groundwork layed for multipass rendering output), format output and adjustment (OpenEXR support, cineon/dpx output) as well as benefiting from a number of improvements in modeling tools, uv mapping, texturing, non linear editing, etc.

LetterRip

Vladius
05-18-2006, 08:13 PM
Congratulations to all who made this possible, and to those who waited for it for so long.

There are some issues with animation and voice acting, but the image and special effects are amazing!

vrotvrot
05-18-2006, 08:17 PM
Hi all,

if you're interested, I wrote an article about the background of this project:

http://www.blendernation.com/2006/05/18/the-worlds-first-open-movie-released/

Cheers,

Bart

damg
05-18-2006, 08:33 PM
Wow, great job to all involved with this project!

Amazing how much Blender has matured over the last couple of years. I see more and more impressive works being created with it.

Samo
05-18-2006, 11:30 PM
http://www.blendernation.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/emo_proog_s6_sm.jpg

Visually stunning, character animation no so good.

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/976/proogs1s22mv.jpg

artificial3D
05-19-2006, 12:30 AM
woooooo! we're online! :bounce:

LetterRip
05-19-2006, 02:53 AM
Congratulations Andy, Matt and the rest of the Orange team :)

LetterRip

brkn
05-19-2006, 03:18 AM
Thanks!, and that would be Bassam, Basse, Lee, and also Jan. :)

Hopefully the load on the web server will ease soon, so we can open up the rest of the site again.

monovich
05-19-2006, 03:25 AM
I agree with the above. It's visually stunning and very rich to look at. It's very imaginative also. I felt it was weaker in the character animation and also the general coherence of the story. I wasn't sure what was going on for a while. At times I also found myself wishing that there wasn't so much glow everywhere.

nice going overall. it's a very impressive demonstration of the software.

JA-forreal
05-19-2006, 03:28 AM
Congratulations and much love to the Orange Project Team for this one. Really, you folks have outdone yourselves! Amazing! This a superb contribution artistically and educationally to the world of hopeful CG artist. Artist around the world will benefit from this film release for years to come. Thanks Ton and everybody else involved! You have worked wonders with Blender yet again with this short film Elephants Dream. And I see that theres talk of maybe yet another film project?




Blender 2.42 will be an epic release.

Blend on!

de_tomato
05-19-2006, 05:28 AM
Congratulation to all that involved in this beautiful production! Its a really nice achievement.

Rebeccak
05-19-2006, 06:38 AM
-plugged. :thumbsup:

Thanks to Anton for the heads up. :)

Womball
05-19-2006, 06:47 AM
Woohoo first blender front page plug I have seen here! Not sure if my payment went through or not. Hopefully I will get a copy. My internet is flukely not sure if I want to download 2 dvd's worth of files. :-)

hippie
05-19-2006, 07:47 AM
Finally the downloadable version is out... Can't wait till I get home to download it.

Aids
05-19-2006, 07:48 AM
Awesome work thanks guys


Blend on brothers

Darktwin
05-19-2006, 08:28 AM
downloading now, can't wait to view it, congrats on a fine project well done, thanks again :)

IestynRoberts
05-19-2006, 10:42 AM
:sad: I cant get it to play - what do you gous use to view it? I cant find antyhing that plays avi.torrent - any suggestions?

Samo
05-19-2006, 10:51 AM
cant get it to play - what do you gous use to view it? I cant find antyhing that plays avi.torrent - any suggestions?

avi.torrent means to be opened with a bittorrent client, usually embedded in a P2P software. I use www.shareaza.org

If you are not keen on that, use the other downloading options.

The AVI file is playable in
http://www.videolan.org/vlc
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Player_Classic

bluemagicuk
05-19-2006, 10:51 AM
It wont play . I downloaded the torrent (super fast btw)
divx player
win media 9
win dvd
It sure has been a while since i had trouble playing media. I am stumped.

Edit
It shouldnt be a torrent problem and more likely a codec issue. The torrent unpacks into filename Elephants_Dream_HD.avi so it should work.

bobtronic
05-19-2006, 10:53 AM
It wont play . I downloaded the torrent (super fast btw)
divx player
win media 9
win dvd
It sure has been a while since i had trouble playing media. I am stumped.

it plays fine with VLC player

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/


Bob

bluemagicuk
05-19-2006, 10:55 AM
Fixed it .. downloaded vlc player they recomended .. working now. Bloody open source hehe jk jk

Samo
05-19-2006, 10:58 AM
I suppose that only codecs will do in case you don't want to install extra software,

Can anyone post a link to codecs please?

dinodog-jr
05-19-2006, 11:20 AM
this movie is inspired my mind.
some of the scenes looks similarity from Blame!.

i will d/l the full-res version now. Unbeatable indie animation.

the sound effects is great piece of work too. Even my dad asked me what i was watching at...

mech7
05-19-2006, 11:27 AM
use uTorrent small and fast :p no install needed..

:sad: I cant get it to play - what do you gous use to view it? I cant find antyhing that plays avi.torrent - any suggestions?

wclaes
05-19-2006, 11:54 AM
Congratulations to the entire team who created the movie and ofcourse also the many coders of blender! Great work!

IestynRoberts
05-19-2006, 12:24 PM
Thanks for your help guys - i cant install anything over here at the mo, because im at work, and the browser prohibits any peer-to-peer stuff, so ill try and watch it when i get home.
Really loooking forward to seeing this - it looks and sounds awsome!

Thanks :thumbsup:

bazuka
05-19-2006, 12:51 PM
great stuff people, keep the good work

people can any1 make more mirrors for scenes (projects files) coz server is tooooo busy :)

10x

benytone
05-19-2006, 01:40 PM
Fantastic,fantastic,fantastic work http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/41.gifhttp://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/41.gifhttp://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/41.gifhttp://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/41.gifhttp://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/41.gif

.

fxgogo
05-19-2006, 01:50 PM
Well done to the Blender and Orange team. You have made a big statement. Technically I thought it was stunning. The story was maybe needed a bit of massaging.

This makes a big point as to the production readyness of Open Source software. I would love to hear comments from both teams on how it was working with OSS in a production environment.

AidanGibbons
05-19-2006, 02:39 PM
First of all well done guys :)

I love the concepts of the environments and characters within it, but i really think the story really dragged it down. I felt it was far too vague, i still am not sure what the film was actually about. Saying that, it sure is visually stunning (although i think there's a bit too much bloom in certain areas). Like others have said, character animation could have been a bit better, there's a few odd and confusing poses pulled here and there. But overall great job. Also, I think its great you've released all the shot scene files to the public :thumbsup:

DDS
05-19-2006, 02:43 PM
visually stunning, storyline pretty interesting. Good animation style but not flawless

Stefan-Morrell
05-19-2006, 03:26 PM
I was having a hard time figuring out the story line..I had the impression the older character was mad ..& trying get the younger one to see his madness,but I finally tracked down a brief piece on the story:

"The film tells the story of Emo and Proog, two people with different visions of the surreal world in which they live. Viewers are taken on a journey through that world, full of strange mechanical birds, stunning technological vistas and machinery that seems to have a life of its own."
http://orange.blender.org/press

which,from a creative point of view must offer a goldmine of ideas,the visuals & environments are very impressive.
well done to Belnder & all in involved

coolwizj
05-19-2006, 04:33 PM
The production files to Elephants dream can be downloaded here at the link labeled "entire production files in one set(USA)"

http://www.elephantsdream.org/download

But the server for the production files is extremely slow.. So could anyone please try to attempt making an alternate link to the files?

RCAS
05-19-2006, 04:47 PM
The production files to Elephants dream can be downloaded here at the link labeled "entire production files in one set(USA)"

http://www.elephantsdream.org/download

But the server for the production files is extremely slow.. So could anyone please try to attempt making an alternate link to the files?

Just buy the DVD and request for a faster delivery transportation and pay the excess, I'm sure you will get it sooner, hehehe.

Anyway, it is far huge for me to put it up on my server, the movie is already consuming my bandwidth extensively.


Perhaps someone can make a zip of it and load it as a torrent.



-- Rui --

thondal
05-19-2006, 05:39 PM
just started the downloading 6hours left:bounce:
I just want to say that (i am a blender user) and all the images i've seen and the major overhaul that blender has had since this movie was started is so amazing. I'ts really inspiering... 5hours and 42 minutes left:scream:

thoro
05-19-2006, 05:51 PM
Congratulations and thanks to the Orange team!

It's good to see how much the team enjoyed this project. Due to the production of Elephants Dream Blender has made a huge leap forward: the new Animation System, the improved Static Particles to create hair, the Material and Compositing Nodes and the wonderful Vector Blur to name only a few. Additional thanks to the coders behind the scenes.

The production files are perfect to learn more about Blender - the files are well-structured and there's much to discover :).

Cheers

Thorsten

mstram
05-19-2006, 05:52 PM
Just buy the DVD and request for a faster delivery transportation and pay the excess, I'm sure you will get it sooner, hehehe.



No kidding.

I considered the ~$50 Cad a bargain for two rigged characters and a bunch of DVD quality textures and scenes.

My main disapointment is the lack of any docs on the making of the scenes, especially given the comment in the commentaries that most/all of the scenes were composited and not at all derived from the "raw" render output.

There are rumours of an 'Elephants Dream' "workbook" in the works however.

Mike

coolwizj
05-19-2006, 06:05 PM
Just buy the DVD and request for a faster delivery transportation and pay the excess, I'm sure you will get it sooner, hehehe.

Yah... one of these days I should do that.. when I got money...:wise: :D

Zephyrpower
05-19-2006, 06:12 PM
avi.torrent means to be opened with a bittorrent client, usually embedded in a P2P software. I use www.shareaza.org (http://www.shareaza.org)

If you are not keen on that, use the other downloading options.

The AVI file is playable in
http://www.videolan.org/vlc
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Player_Classic

so you have to download this program to open it and then the Videolan player to play it?

bdx
05-19-2006, 06:18 PM
My main disapointment is the lack of any docs on the making of the scenes, especially given the comment in the commentaries that most/all of the scenes were composited and not at all derived from the "raw" render output.
All the compositing graphs are in the scene .blend files. Just load one, open the node editor window and set the Composite Node button. Also, pressing F12 should get you the final frames, since all that gets automatically evaluated.

fitchmicah
05-19-2006, 06:24 PM
My main disapointment is the lack of any docs on the making of the scenes, especially given the comment in the commentaries that most/all of the scenes were composited and not at all derived from the "raw" render output.

All of the compositing was done during the rendering with Blender's compositor! I don't think they did any post-render compositing, in fact, I have a feeling that they did not do much post-render editing either (camera switching and such were probably done inside of Blender and rendered/composited/editted all at once during the render process) !!!

mstram
05-19-2006, 06:29 PM
All the compositing graphs are in the scene .blend files. Just load one, open the node editor window and set the Composite Node button. Also, pressing F12 should get you the final frames, since all that gets automatically evaluated.

Ya I saw that, but I haven't found any docs/tutorials on how to use the compositing nodes either ;)

There are some brief/terse release notes on the wiki but that's about it.

Maybe "The Making of Elephants Dream" should be the next Orange project ? :)

Mike

coldfuse[ofX]
05-19-2006, 07:17 PM
This was a film i have very mixed feelings about...

I think it is a deffinate wake up call to all those out there, that feel open source cannot deliver or match the big companies. But this is amazing. The concepts and ideas were amazing, just great.

However as others have noticed the storyline was pretty much bare, and the dialouge was awful. I can't be bothered right now, but if someone has the time to count how many times emo's name was mentioned im sure were reaching about 20-30 times within a space of 10 mins, which is alot! That got really boring i have to say.

I was also dissapointed with the animation, though the other objects in the scene were well animated, i thought both characters were rather poor.

It is a wonderful movie, and i have been waiting for this for god knows how long, but i am kinda dissapointed with it and well kinda wished they were still working on it.

Good one guys.

paintbox
05-19-2006, 08:12 PM
I happened to be searching for blender docs today and they are actually looking for people who like to contribute to documenting substantially for a sum of 500 euros.

Womball
05-19-2006, 08:21 PM
I heard they were making a book about it. Perhaps that will cover the composite notes. I would love to know what they did there too. Also more Blender merchandise is a good thing!

mstram
05-19-2006, 08:49 PM
I happened to be searching for blender docs today and they are actually looking for people who like to contribute to documenting substantially for a sum of 500 euros.

They have to try something to get those programmers to document the new features :)

Mike

damg
05-19-2006, 08:58 PM
so you have to download this program to open it and then the Videolan player to play it?

BitTorrent ( http://bittorrent.com/download.myt ) is used as a tool to allow many people to download the movie without killing the server's bandwidth. It basically splits up the movie into a bunch of chunks and allows everyone currently trying to download it to share these chunks with each other, instead of getting them from the server directly. Once you've received all the pieces needed, the software rebuilds the movie as a single file. Of course, all of this is done transparently for you by the software.

The Videolan player ( http://www.videolan.org/vlc ) is just one of the recommended open source players that can play this movie directly without needing to bother with having the right codecs and such. Another similar one is MPlayer ( http://www.mplayerhq.hu/ ).

Hope that helps.

Critterslayer
05-19-2006, 09:46 PM
quite impressive!!

Rebeccak
05-19-2006, 09:54 PM
There's a CGSociety Article about the Film >>here<< (http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=3583&page=).

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Samo
05-19-2006, 09:56 PM
thanks Rebeccak and thanks CGsociety! :thumbsup:

scrimski
05-19-2006, 10:06 PM
Damn, still downloading, 6 hours on the clock to go.
Can't wait to see this.

westiemad
05-19-2006, 11:03 PM
great work guys :buttrock:

hesido
05-20-2006, 12:14 AM
Right now, dowloading from bittorrent using Opera9 :) (sharing it along the way.. Cool)... Bittorent with Opera is a no-brainer, for those who want to inflict less pain on servers but don't have the time to configure a full on bittorrent program, I strongly suggest trying it with Opera9beta

Xsub
05-20-2006, 12:28 AM
I agree with pretty much the rest, brilliant visuals, not so good animation, very happy to have a film purley made from free software, and it is great hope to flirt others to try out blender.

Opera 9.0b for windows
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/opera/win/900b1/en/Opera%209%20Beta%20Eng%20Setup.exe

francescaluce
05-20-2006, 12:55 AM
I must be dreaming. it is a great project and all open source.
never ever imaginated a think like this could happen a day.





ciao
francesca

brkn
05-20-2006, 03:50 AM
There's a CGSociety Article about the Film >>here<< (http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=3583&page=).

Thankyou very much, Rebecca and CGS, it's a fine article! :)

LetterRip
05-20-2006, 06:47 AM
It was a good article, although the paragraph about 'almost shelved but the money was there' is confusing (I think it was trying to convey about the bankruptcy of NaN and then the purchase of the software from the debtors by the community).

Also while Ton did the bulk of the coding work it should be pointed out there were a number of crucial contributions by open source community both coding (Peter and the sequencer, Joeedh and Cineon/DPX export, Harkymans NLA work, Brecht and UV unwrapping etc) and contribution of textures and translations; or things like Joeri and the DVD mastering.

LetterRip

Yfkar
05-20-2006, 11:18 PM
I can only agree with the crits and praise already in this thread.
Great work, Orange team.:thumbsup:

VirgilioVasconcelos
05-21-2006, 02:43 PM
We are witnesses of an historical moment. The Orange Project (I believe) is about showing to everyone who works in CG industry the high end capabilities of an open-sourced 3D application. There are a lot of people who don't take Blender seriously just because "it's free, so it can't be good".

Linux is around the professional CG market for years, is open-sourced, is free and Is taken seriously. Now is Blender time. =D

In terms of what is possible to make using this great app, the movie was extremely successful in its purpouse. Of course there are some points to improve, but they're mostly related to things other than Blender's feature set. Maybe things to improve in the next movie!

Congrats to Ton, all the Orange artists, and the each day growing community of developers and users.

lowkey
05-22-2006, 07:46 AM
OK, I think the movie is absolutely fantastic. Aesthetically as well as technically. Brilliant work! :thumbsup:

But, what did they use to render the whole thing? Was it all done using Blender's internal renderer (if there is one)? And how about compositing and texturing?

I can't believe it was all created in Blender alone and - IMHO - tools like Jahshaka or Gimp are not a real option.

LetterRip
05-22-2006, 07:59 AM
lowkey,

But, what did they use to render the whole thing? Was it all done using Blender's internal renderer (if there is one)? And how about compositing and texturing?

Textures were done with Gimp/Seashore (although there were some textures donated by outside artists who may have used other tools) or procedurally using Blender new node based materials (CVS). All rendering was done with Blender internal (CVS version - will be out soon) and same with compositing and sequencing (again CVS version).

LetterRip

lowkey
05-22-2006, 08:01 AM
All rendering was done with Blender internal (CVS version - will be out soon) and same with compositing and sequencing (again CVS version). WOW! :eek:

JoshBowman
05-22-2006, 08:39 AM
While I'm absolutely flawed that this was done using blender, the overall story, character dialogue and animation were rather below average.

mstram
05-22-2006, 02:01 PM
lowkey,
All rendering was done with Blender internal (CVS version - will be out soon) and same with compositing and sequencing (again CVS version).
LetterRip

Tom,

Do you know how Blender was setup on the render farm?

I.e. were the ~240 computers all rendering the same frame at once? .... or each computer rendering a different frame?

Mike

LetterRip
05-22-2006, 02:32 PM
I'm fairly sure, but not 100% positive that it was each computer rendered its own frame. I think there is support (fairly recently? - I vaguely recall a post on this) for splitting a single frame accross computers but I don't think that was used by Orange.

LetterRip

Dennik
05-22-2006, 02:52 PM
It sure is an eye candy, quite aesthetically pleasing. However the voice acting, and the animation, suffer a LOT which ruins the experience for me.

Deranged_Seagull
05-22-2006, 03:02 PM
Awesome work orange team!!

Robertt
05-23-2006, 01:53 AM
Congratulations to the Project Orange team on this awesome achievement.

The sights and sounds were absolutely stunning.

The timeframe and circumstances in which this creation came together make the final result all the more impressive.

That your combined work and beta-testing (while trying to make a movie) resulted in a quantum leap in Blender's abilities makes the next version of Blender an incredible gift to aspiring animators in the CG community and another huge win for open-source.

I wish you all continued success.

RobertT

Papa Lazarou
05-24-2006, 01:00 AM
While it has been noted that some of the animation is weak, I found that most of it was more than adequate, and in some places it was really good. I think the problem is that the bad animation is particularly prominent. The dialogue sequence at the start was very awkward, and all the more obvious as a daylight scene, but I was impressed with the animation in other scenes, like the way Proog walks across the mechanical stepping stones.

On the whole I was very impressed. It was a lot better than I had been expecting. This isn't a film put out by a studio, it's just a few people without a huge amount of experience who have never worked together, with just a few months to put everything together. I was expecting somewhere between a student film and a commercial film. And I've seen enough student films to know how hard it is to get a good story , or even a coherrent one, and sloppy animation is the norm. But this was much better than that, much longer and much more complex.

I think they could have done a better job if they'd gone with a simpler idea. What took me by surprise was the imagination and complexity of the surreal visions, and the many elaborate throw-away bits. I think this time they were really out to show off Blender and show what it can do, and in that respect they have surpassed expectations and been incredibly successful. That more than made up for the storytelling and acting problems.

I hope they get a chance to do it again. For their next film, if there's a next time round, hopefully they will be able to focus more in these areas.

flawedprefect
05-25-2006, 08:06 AM
Yes! Will download tonight when I get home from work. Can't wait to see it. One step closer to an Open Source production studio. Can you guys just imagine?

RCAS
05-26-2006, 12:53 PM
Yes! Will download tonight when I get home from work. Can't wait to see it. One step closer to an Open Source production studio. Can you guys just imagine?

And this will be even closer with the new Summer Of Code projects...

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