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BASSit
03-10-2002, 08:06 PM
Hi everyone !

Iīve decided to create the god Apophis, based on the legends but from
my own point of view...

He was often drawn as a giant snake or a human with a snake head. He
stands for the darkness, the bad and the chaos...
The legend says the Apophis was defeated by Re every night, but he never
died ! His blood has painted the sky in a redish/orange tone (sundown).
The same battle happened in the morning again (sunset).

Based on that iīve made some sketches (sorry, i donīt have a scanner)
and will start blocking out Apophis immediatly...

Apophis_00.jpg (http://www.image-identity.com/source/apophis_00.jpg)

It gives a rough idea of what to come . . .

I hope to have some fun with this challenge and to get better
results than before :D

toma
03-10-2002, 10:33 PM
Well,

It looks much less original than your RustBot model, i wonder why...

I'm impatient to see how this model will be. Keep going Bassit !

BASSit
03-11-2002, 02:08 AM
Yep toma, i hope to finish this god :D and it will look much more original if iīve added all the details iīve planned :wip:

Here is a small update...
Apophis_01c.jpg (http://www.image-identity.com/source/apophis_01c.jpg)

BASSit
03-11-2002, 04:25 AM
Another small update - the last for today :p

http://www.image-identity.com/source/apophis_02.jpg

MichaelHebel
03-11-2002, 08:23 PM
Well, it is getting its form from day to day - looking forward

BASSit
03-11-2002, 08:23 PM
Thanks Michael, itīs very far from finish and i just make small steps ;)

I have started to model the muscles on the leg and placed a biped to show how tall this god is.

Apophis_03.jpg (http://www.image-identity.com/source/apophis_03.jpg)

Any comments so far ?

diazgl
03-12-2002, 12:36 AM
man, you started out weird, but this looks great!!! I love the idea, something as huge as that, cos almost everyone i've seen is going for human sized!! Anyways, really great, though it reminds me of a 3D render i've once saw in a gallery somewhere (3dcafe i think). Is it gonna be a statue, or an organic living entity?

BASSit
03-12-2002, 03:56 AM
Thanks diazgl for the kind comment... This will be a living thing - if i have some time after finishing that model i will do some enviroment and (hopefully) a pose.
Iīve checked 3dcafe but coulndīt find what you was talking about - you donīt have a pic or link, dont you ?

I am not sure about the spikes...they looked great in the sketch, but turned out a little annoying - maybe i cancel them or try something else.

BASSit
03-12-2002, 11:10 AM
I think the spikes looking better now...
Apophis_04.jpg (http://www.image-identity.com/source/apophis_04.jpg)
...tell me your opinion !

BASSit
03-12-2002, 04:03 PM
Some progress on the head...

http://www.image-identity.com/source/apophis_05.jpg

Any comments would be great, because i am no snake-lover and not sure about that beast ;)

Sangotten
03-12-2002, 04:07 PM
cool dude!:buttrock:

I think the model looks cool so far, but you may want to make his stumach a bit larger, now he is to skinny! The spikes may look better when they are straight, not hanging down....

Keep up the cool work...

henry
03-12-2002, 04:50 PM
at first i didn't think this would turn out to be a good idea but then I saw that you are really turning it into something good, keep up the good work will ya :P


p.s. what's with the biped?? :wavey:

diazgl
03-12-2002, 05:31 PM
hmm, not exactly your model, but it reminds me of it....
Oh, and i've sent you to the wrong place!
http://www.3dlinks.com/gallery_fullview.cfm?id=1950

BASSit
03-12-2002, 09:30 PM
Thanks for the comments :beer: !

Sangotten : I will work on the stomach soon - thanks for pointing this out ! The spikes should be bend down... otherwise they would hurt him during walking :hmm: Maybe i bend them just a little bit (more straight than curved) and make them some shorter !?

henry: The biped was just placed for reference to get a feel for Apophis height :D

diazgl: That image would fit in this challenge very well ! Havenīt seen it before.

I hope to have the head finished by tomorrow...

Have a nice day everyone !

BASSit
03-13-2002, 12:41 PM
Some changes made... the head is still not finished - i hope to find some time today and work on it some more.

http://www.image-identity.com/source/apophis_06.jpg

here is a higher resolution: 1280 x 1024 (http://www.image-identity.com/source/apophis_06_wall.jpg)

C&C are always welcome !
BTW: i just bought "C&C Renegade" - that was a big mistake :D . . . it cost some of my sparetime :p

schmu_20mol
03-13-2002, 05:42 PM
nice work Bassit! ...waiting for updates....mmmhh about the head...think the plate (or whatever) shortly behind the head needs some volume....keep on;)

Hellbring
03-13-2002, 05:51 PM
looking good dude...can i suggest maybe some more arch in the back and/or maybe some stomach hanging down....seems a little table like at the moment

BASSit
03-13-2002, 09:14 PM
Thanks people - getting feedback is always a great thing :D keep it coming !!

schmu_20mol: That plate is ... how is it called in english (eine Art Kragen - wie bei īner Kragenechse). But i need to define it some more - it really looks like a plate now ;)

Hellbring: Ofcourse you can suggest - thatīs why i post updates regulary :beer: Yes, i need to work on the belly again... there will also be lots of spikes starting from behind the head and going along the back till the tail !

Too bad that a snake would need at least a bump-map to look like a snake :( Is it cheating if i add a bump to the finished model ?!? I donīt think itīs possible to build all the cells for the skin... any suggestions ?

BASSit
03-15-2002, 09:34 PM
I hadnīt much time lately, because of harddisc crash :( I hav just finished installing all apps and plugins for Max - so just a few changes. Have a look !

http://www.image-identity.com/source/apophis_07.jpg

BASSit
03-17-2002, 01:55 AM
here comes another update . . .

http://www.image-identity.com/source/apophis_08.jpg

and here a screengrab for the wire . . .

http://www.image-identity.com/source/apophis_08_750.jpg

You can find a higher resolution here !!! (http://www.image-identity.com/source/apophis_08_1280.jpg)

I hope you pros out there can give me some comments on the mesh. e.g.: What to change ?

Pancreas
03-17-2002, 02:10 AM
Wosh! i really like how the creatureīs getting on, step by step. Nice one!
Iīd add fangs to the snake head, and deep more the eyes.

Fetus23
03-17-2002, 04:20 AM
cool concept...its getting there....more more more....
maybe a grimacing sharp toothed smile?
or a harness to rope this mamoth beast!!

keep em coming!

fetus

Wraith
03-17-2002, 04:44 AM
Everytime I see this one you have added more detail :) Keep it up :D

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BASSit
03-17-2002, 08:11 PM
Thanks for taking da time...

Pancreas: The fangs are only visible if the mouth is open - so i have to model all that stuff that comes with the fangs (e.g. gumbs and poison-bag (is that a word ?) ! Will do, but could take a while. What do you mean by "deep more the eyes" ? (Sorry, my bad english :( )

Fetus23: That harness would be agreat idea for a demon. I donīt think that the god Apophis would be happy if he is roped :D
The tooth are on their way and maybe a smile - will see how it looks.

Wraith: There are still a lot of details to add and i just make very small steps - but at least i make steps ;)

diazgl
03-17-2002, 11:29 PM
uhm, just a little q, was apophis a vicious god? And if so, how are you gonna show this on the head (cos my imagination just don't work right!!)

Threedeemer
03-18-2002, 02:26 AM
Great job BASSit! I like the progress, I have a couple of suggestion you can consider; how about defining underneath the jaw, more of a bone structure like a crocodile's, also where the pelvis and back legs connect could use more bone and muscle definition. I understand if your going for more of a sleek look though.

BASSit
03-18-2002, 08:24 PM
diazgl: I think he was a vicious god - really evil ! But i am no expert if it comes to gods... so may be someone out there knows more about Apophis.

Threedeemer: Thanks ! I agree with you to define the back legs some more. I havenīt started these yet. I am actually working on the head...
http://www.image-identity.com/source/snakehead.jpg

Is coloring within the rules (guidelines) ?!? Or do i have to submit a completly grey model ?

BASSit
03-20-2002, 12:56 AM
Some kind of update :(

I think i am not able to finish that model... just got a job.
Maybe i have some time but i donīt know how far i will get.

diazgl
03-21-2002, 04:59 PM
they should have you arrested.......


could "I" have the model? (ihihhihih)

BASSit
03-21-2002, 06:48 PM
Diazgl: Uhm...WHO should arrest me ? And WHY ? Have you forgot to take your pills ??? :D
You can try to model it by yourself (hihihi) ! Should not be that hard.

I will finish this snake once iīve more time :wip:

diazgl
03-21-2002, 10:51 PM
i mean, just leaving this model like that, but if you are too busy, i guess we just have to go along with that, right? And no, i am NOT a good modeller, to model that by myself...damn, i have hard time modelling a sphere....!?

BASSit
04-05-2002, 04:12 PM
I havenīt had much time lately ... and i am also working on another project. Iīve also learned that i actually need much more time than one month to create a character :(
But leaving a started project (in this case this challenge) unfinished makes me feel bad ! So thatīs why iīve put some time into fast rigging and fixing some parts on the body...

So here are my final images:

http://www.image-identity.com/source/final_apophis_low.jpg
High-Resolution-Vesion (652 KB) here ! (http://www.image-identity.com/source/final_apophis.jpg)

I know i wont get a single vote for this god, but now i feel much better :D

Have a nice weekend !

Dennis (aka BASSit)

diazgl
04-06-2002, 03:53 AM
RIGHT!!! Man, you sure got MY vote!! OK, so you haven't finished your character yet, but the idea is nice and your model is going really well.

Koma
04-07-2002, 04:45 AM
dont be sad you make a good job ,the most important its not to win or to have vote ,i will probably not have alot of vote but iam proud of what i do and i had fun to model my character .

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