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CyborgJA
05-05-2006, 08:48 PM
Well, I'm a "few words girl".
I've spent all my evening having practice with horses' anatomy so... why not share my exercises? I don't pretend to post 'helpful' sketches but I think I'll do my little piece of work for this forum in such a way.

So...let's start !


http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/HorseStudy.jpg

pap87
05-06-2006, 05:26 AM
Just wanted to be the first to reply.:)
The couloured horse on the bottom right looks very good and realistic too.
Well done.

jmBoekestein
05-06-2006, 01:33 PM
Looking good! Glad to see you make a thread of your own too. Subscribed... :)

I've got some pictures of Frisians, really beautiful black horses. Want me to post them?

Gord-MacDonald
05-07-2006, 12:15 AM
I hope to see this become a regular thing!

Gord

CyborgJA
05-15-2006, 07:57 PM
Thanks guys !
I apologize for the delay in my posts. I've got 2 exams next month and I must study all the day :sad:
Although I spend a lot of time on a 'secret project' so...be patient !

@pap : :love:thank you for the first post
@jm : I'll use your frisian-pics soon !
@gord : I hope that too !


I've got also 2 updates

Again horse-study with correction on red horse
http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/HorseStudy_1.jpg


Plus a work that I've started this evening for a friend's website. I post here head with planes, hope you will find it interesting

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/B2B_001res.jpg

jmBoekestein
05-15-2006, 09:50 PM
Lovely vibrant colour on the orange Horse Serena! Can't wait to see the result of the portrait :D .

:love:

CyborgJA
05-15-2006, 11:39 PM
Lovely vibrant colour on the orange Horse Serena! Can't wait to see the result of the portrait :D .

:love:
better....tomorrow morning :)

CyborgJA
05-17-2006, 02:41 PM
better....tomorrow morning :)

Mm. I've had troubles with eye alignment.

Image's steps and a crop out of the head


http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/B2B_002res.jpg

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/B2B_003res.jpg



here cropout (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/B2B_005rescropout.jpg)


More news soon :love:

Runecaster
05-17-2006, 02:49 PM
^^ That's looking great so far :)

jmBoekestein
05-17-2006, 02:59 PM
Yeah that's good work Serena, great anatomy. :thumbsup:

Iridyse
05-17-2006, 03:14 PM
The portrait is looking really nice!Looks like dry pastel actually.
The horse sketches are very nice too :)

CyborgJA
05-17-2006, 10:40 PM
Thank you !

@hiiri : pure charcoal :)

See you soon !

CyborgJA
05-19-2006, 10:11 AM
Update : Horses' sketches, plate 01, finished !


http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/show/HorseSketches01.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/HorseSketches01.jpg)

pap87
05-19-2006, 10:24 AM
Wow, that new horse in the top left is awesome! And the shading style is perfect as well really gives the horses a three dimensional feel.
Well done, and keep those pics coming!

CyborgJA
05-19-2006, 10:36 AM
Thank you pap87 !

I've used a lot of photo-references on andalusian, I really love them !

Salubri3i
05-20-2006, 12:27 AM
these are very good. i love your horses.

hope you update regularly. :thumbsup:

jmBoekestein
05-20-2006, 12:44 PM
Love the horses too! The one in the middle has very interesting lighting! And love the one in the left! Really dynamic and beautiful!!! :D

:love:

CyborgJA
06-23-2006, 03:30 PM
I'm working and studying a lot so I've not free time to create images and post them on cgforums.
But some nights ago I came back to my horses' anatomy sketches and I've started a new pic composed by 5 horses' heads.

click image to enlarge it.

Hope to see you soon,
Serena.

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/show/HorseSketches02.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/HorseSketches02.jpg)

jmBoekestein
06-23-2006, 04:12 PM
Great colour usage, starting to dawn on my why horses always look so nice in bright sunlight. :D their hairs. :cool:

Imirie
06-23-2006, 04:26 PM
Aww, so pretty! The one with the tongue looks great. :D! I love the brushstrokes and the colors.

Nice horses, I hope you get to post more. :)

CyborgJA
07-10-2006, 12:43 PM
thanks to all !


News here :

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/show/HorseSketches02.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/HorseSketches02.jpg)

CyborgJA
07-11-2006, 12:13 PM
Updated with 3rd horse.
Same link of yesterday :)

eilidh
07-11-2006, 12:19 PM
Nice work you've got here, Serena. Some pretty strong anatomy in the planes version of the head, and good rendering on the painted, too. Your horse studies look great; I love how you've paid attention to lines and their dynamics, it really makes a difference.

Hope to see more from you. :)

jmBoekestein
07-11-2006, 01:03 PM
I love how handled the lighting in these newest ones. It looks very lively, beautiful colour work.

:D

arnocob
07-11-2006, 01:11 PM
:)
Hi!
Really really good!
I am jealous, cause I couldn't do this...
It's a mark of quality and perseverance to start exercises...
I am waiting for an update.
bye

notpill
07-12-2006, 06:13 AM
Great! I will follow (subscribed).

CyborgJA
07-12-2006, 03:01 PM
@eilidh : I usually spend all my evenings on face planes but I need more practice or I will never paint a great face !

@jm : and you? When will you paint using colors? You know that I'm waiting ;)

@arnocob : I have a lot of exercises cause I've not your great talent and hand!

@notpill. Thankyou! Già sai di essere nella mia lista nera, vero? :wise::thumbsup:



Updates at the same link


http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/show/HorseSketches02.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/HorseSketches02.jpg)

jmBoekestein
07-12-2006, 06:17 PM
Going reallly well with these! The one up top right seems to havea somewhat large mouth, but I don't know if that's supposed to be or not.

Lovely colours again! :D

Soon, I'll put some in too... soooooon.

Zephyri
07-12-2006, 08:09 PM
Wow, lovely horse sketches, you obviously have a real love for the animals, it shows in the way you paint them. Really like your use of colour too, especially in the way you gradient your colours.

CyborgJA
07-14-2006, 01:44 PM
@jm : I changed few volumes in order to describe different kinds of horses. I think that animals are like humans and you know how many types of faces there are in our world :)
But I'm a beginner with horses so if you see something wrong, please tell me !

@Zephyri : yes I absolutely love them all. I adore how they are able to express they feelings and moods using body's expression. I think that if you really observe animals you'll be able to better understand humans too.


I also know that I'm painting 'academic' sketches but I really need to have something like a 3D-model in my mind. It's hard to see a real horse moving and running and scratching itself here in Milan so I must work with tons and tons of photos.

It's a slow and quite frustrating work for me, but I know that one dayI'll obtain it and I'll start to make more dynamic and powerful pics.

I can only tell you "be patient please, I'm still learning" :)

Finished plate 2 (800KB)

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/show/HorseSketches02.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/HorseSketches02.jpg)


here some image details (586KB) (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/steps/HorseSketches02.jpg)

eilidh
07-14-2006, 04:12 PM
These look very very good. I love both your forms (indeed academic style, but still loose enough) and expressions of the horses; they show particularly in their eyes an muzzles. An exception is perhaps the top right horse. I don't quite 'get' his forms. But it might as well have been a matter of the reference picture you used.

pap87
07-16-2006, 05:08 AM
Damn, those are awesome! I especially like the colours of the bottom left horse. It's excellent how you make the brush strokes follow the muscle structure.

Keeping a close eye for some updates!

CyborgJA
07-16-2006, 07:44 PM
@eilidh : thank you very much. Yes, I was loosing myself on the top-right horse. You know, sometimes you want to describe so many details that you only obtain a mess. This is the reason why I've created few colors' areas.
Well, I'll do better in next plate :)

@pap87: thank you very much ! I'm not so colors-addicted but I 've found a trick : resat variations on your brush. Choose you light and then set it in the right %. You'll obtain a good mix with colors and scene light. I also use color dodge to define light's spots.



As you know I'm working on a personal project that is adsorbing all my time but yesterday evening I was having a chat on msn with JMboekestein about bodies and perspective and I've done this quick sketch :

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/show/Trapezio.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/Trapezio.jpg)
I really hope to have the time to paint it. I'm already loving her.

I also have to paint a old man portrait...you will see it soon on that 3D ;)
See you soon,
Serena.

CyborgJA
07-18-2006, 12:12 PM
News.
Started as a speedpaint of the day (theme : nostalgia) I've decided to complete it in about 80 minutes.
I wanted to render the same eye-expression and teeth of Adriana Lima so I've used these photo-references :

http://www.popstarsplus.com/images/AdrianaLimaPicture.jpg
http://www.vnn.vn/dataimages/original/images458778_AM_AdrianaLima3.jpg
http://neuromancerwp.free.fr/Adriana%20Lima%2005.png
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/f/f0/180px-Adriana_Lima.jpg

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/show/Nostalgia.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/Nostalgia.jpg)

As usual feel free to write me tons of critics.

See you soon,
Serena.:love:

arnocob
07-18-2006, 12:38 PM
:)
Hi!
Looks good!
Maybe the nose's shadow is a bit hard? But i am not a specialist of face's painting..
She also looks like Ornella Muti, no?
keep posting, it's great.
bye

jmBoekestein
07-18-2006, 12:56 PM
SHe reminds me a lot more of Audrey hepburn. :) Nice work!

pap87
07-19-2006, 03:28 PM
It's good to see a human here for a change!

Interesting colour choice, works quite well.

CyborgJA
07-24-2006, 12:15 PM
Hi there!
I've studied tons of formulas for an university course and now I'm back here with my pics.

@arnocob :you are right but the nose-shadow adds depth to the whole face.. so...I've closed my eyes and used it :D

@jm : O_O where do you see Audrey lines?

@pap87: thank you. You know how much I'm working on my palette.


I've started the old man portrait right yesterday evening and I've decided to show you all the steps (suggested by JMBoekestein)

Here the first 2 steps.
1. Starting from the usual ball sliced at sides, I've created the main line that follows the eye-brow and creates a cross with ball midline. The distance from hair to eyebrows (1) is equal to distance from eyebrows and nose (2) and nose-jaw(3)
Then I've connected the jaw, starting from the sliced sides to the 3rd sign made in previuos step. Ok, that are, in my opinion, the basic set of rules that you must know to start in a right way a face.

2. I have to describe an old man so I've added basic planes with some "age-distorsions" as example more wide flesh areas right under jaw or bigger dome. I've also modified collar-bones and shoulders.

Click image to see steps ;)

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/show/AntonioPortrait.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/steps/AntonioPortrait.jpg)


Soon more news on basic color-areas.

eilidh
07-24-2006, 05:05 PM
Very nice and structured approach. What is it exactly you're indicating with the small arrows on the collarbone and shoulders, by the way?

CyborgJA
07-25-2006, 11:45 AM
Very nice and structured approach. What is it exactly you're indicating with the small arrows on the collarbone and shoulders, by the way?

Thank you !
Well, as you know our skeleton follows our age and a common deformation is what we call 'hump'. If you are painting a front-side portrait you can describe an hump with a simple shift of collarbones and shoulders.
I've prepaired a side-skeleton-scheme for you : first one of an adult and second one of an 'old' man. Hope that will help.
Click here to see it (added to steps) (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/steps/AntonioPortrait.jpg)


Today I've got another sketch.

You have to know that I absolutely need what I call 'colours-therapy' as much as possible in my daily life. This is the reason why I've painted this murales (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/MuralesSt.jpg) (I've to update the pic with the finished one :D, I'm sorry)- (steps- 1227 KB) (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/steps/MuralesSt.jpg) right on the wall in front of my bedroom.
I open the door and I find it every morning. I feel happy.
BUT tumbling down the stair that connects my bedroom to the rest of my home, I see a big and totally empty wall and every morning I repeat to myself : "no no, that doesn't run, I must do something".

Well, yesterday I've made a starting-sketch. Its name is "black dream" and I promise that I'll finish it at my maximum capability.

mm... maybe I'll add a nude woman riding it.
http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/show/BlackDream.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/BlackDream.jpg)


See you soon,
Serena.

frostblade
07-25-2006, 12:02 PM
That's so cool being able to paint your wall. I'll get killed if I even put a mark on mine.

Looks very nice.

CyborgJA
08-14-2006, 07:31 PM
That's so cool being able to paint your wall. I'll get killed if I even put a mark on mine.

Looks very nice.

MMmm..better that I won't show you my new 2 areas (6x3 mt - 4x1,5 mt) http://forum.html.it/forum/images/smilies/stordita.gif

Hi there!
I'm back again. What can I tell..yesterday I was quite frustrated. I received 2 bad critics on my works, like 'no style', 'too flat'.. and you know.. I was so sad. I spent 1 long hour talking to myself and asking WHY I paint, why I work 10 hs at day to obtain no money and thousands of critics.
Well...I know the answer. I paint cause I can't do anything else. It's in my DNA.
So I've decided to fight and start to work seriously on Antonio's Portrait.
I think I'll finish it at the top of my possibilities so, please, give me a lot of suggestions :)

The basic idea is : "Antonio. Sicily, blood and volcano".

I've changed all the background to show something like a lava-eruption and I've spent 7 hours no stop modelling his skin. I'm used to describe only pretty looking and young girls and this old man was a real challenge.

You can find here images steps with photo reference made with my cellphone. (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/steps/AntonioPortrait.jpg)

and here the image :

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/show/AntonioPortrait.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/AntonioPortrait.jpg)


As usual, feel free to write anything you want, I'm not touchy and I appreciate genuine critics.

Serena :love:

CyborgJA
08-20-2006, 12:28 PM
Updated.
I think I'll add a redstrong light on the bottom-left side and now I'll start to work on background but in the meantime...please, tell me if you see any trouble on his skin, lights and bone structure please :)
I'll add details like hair, eyes and eyebrows as final step.

Here image (518KB) (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/AntonioPortrait.jpg)
Here steps (757KB) (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/steps/AntonioPortrait.jpg)

Thank you,
Serena.

pap87
08-20-2006, 04:41 PM
Nice fiery colours. And very nice detailing of the wrinkles.
All I could suggest is to put some shadow on his neck from the collars just to tie the two together.
Looking forward to seeing what else you can do with it.:buttrock:

slickgreekgeo
08-20-2006, 06:25 PM
You're very good with portraits and you have a good eye for colors from what I can see. Keep it going.

jmBoekestein
08-21-2006, 02:04 PM
Reallly good stuff! I'm enjoying the colour works too. Go go go! :scream:

:thumbsup:

danielh68
08-21-2006, 02:23 PM
Serena, great work. I really enjoy the horse studies, especially the head shots. They are very nicely rendered. The application and brushwork really looks like oil paint. I'm guessing it's digital, but perhaps it really is a traditional oil painting? In any case, awesome body of work :)

Runecaster
08-22-2006, 12:35 PM
Gah that Lima girl is gorgeous, where'd you find her? I've never heard of her, she's stunningly beautiful! I love that image you did, too.

CyborgJA
08-22-2006, 01:19 PM
Hi there!
News on Antonio's portrait : I've started to describe the background adding smog and now working on lava. I've decided to use a lot of dark colors to enhance the idea of hot and fluid stones coming from hearth's core. Still in work.

@pap87: you are absolutely right. I've added your note in my 'todo' list. I'll refine his neck in the next step. Thank you !

@slickgreekgeo : you are very gentle. I don't know if I'm so good with portraits but I can tell you that I'm working on human anatomy since I was a young girl and maybe, this helps me a lot. Well, I'm very instictive with colors and it isn't a good thing. I need to really know HOW colors work. As example, I'm reading a book right now ( can I write its title?) and I hope to obtain a real improvement in my palette management.

@JanMark: Gogogo? Are you a Valentino Rossi fan? Me too :D
Remember of Jase ;)

@danielh68 : thank you very much! If you like my horses I suggest you to check this 3D during my next pic's progress. I'll describe a great black horse and I'll spend all my blood on it ;)
Yes, all my pics are made using painter. I'm using standard brushes with these settings:
- horses : italian watercolor paper, scale 150%. Background made with charcoal (20% opacity and 60% resat) horses with palette knife (95% resat, full opacity)
- antonio : linen canvas, scale 400%. First step with palette knife (same settings). Now Working with oils, round camelhair (80% opacity 100% resat) for details and Bristle oils (various size and opacity) on background.
I've left all other settings to my wacom intuos3 hardware.




So... here the usual link to antonio's portrait (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/AntonioPortrait.jpg). Critics are welcome !

Serena

CyborgJA
08-22-2006, 01:40 PM
Gah that Lima girl is gorgeous, where'd you find her? I've never heard of her, she's stunningly beautiful! I love that image you did, too.

She was the testimonial of the main phoneservices-provider here in Italy :)

You know...Italy is the heart of fashion (Gucci, Armani, Prada, D&G,Versace, Valentino, Ferrè, Pierre Cardin -born near venice- and so many others...) and here we have got the best models from all around the world.

CyborgJA
08-24-2006, 04:43 PM
Work updated with a smog-wall in perspective view to add depth and yes...lava.
I've had a lot of experiments on it to cut working hours but no one effect / pattern /anything else works as I would. So...I'm here...making each drop with my brush and bluring it a little to obtain 'hotair' effect. :scream:
Still in first steps, here the link (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/AntonioPortrait.jpg)

and here a little sample of high res detail (WARNING : 2.7 MB !!!) (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/AP.bmp)

CyborgJA
09-02-2006, 02:14 PM
News news news.
First, I've added a well defined background. It represent a lava-eruption . I know that a volcano can be an unusual background for a to all appearance peacefull-quiet looking old man but everytime I meet him I have the sensation of an unlimited energy and a deep contrast between his soul and his body. So I've choosen an eruption with its pure reds and oranges on a dark ground to fight against his face. I'm sure you will totally feel this contrast when I'll upload it with finished eyes and refined skin.
I've also made a correction on face's value in order to obtain a better description on dark areas.
As you know, I'm a references-lover so I've used this photo (http://mahi.ucsd.edu/Gabi/erth10.dir/lava-fountain.jpeg)as main guide for lava. I've also discovered a good trick to obtain a good lava-effect (I Hope :scream:) so, if you are interested, ask me and I'll explain the process.

What I'm going to do :
- working on skin to refine it and make it more silky but without loosing canvas and brushes trace;
- define hair and eyebrows (:scream:)
- describe eyes.

As usual, the image (WARNING : 1.02 MB) http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/show/AntonioPortrait.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/AntonioPortrait.jpg)
and here steps with a focus on first layer of lava (WARNING : 1.07MB)

Hear you soon,
Serena.

jmBoekestein
09-02-2006, 06:33 PM
Like I said before great lava, it's turned outvery intense. :D

:thumbsup:

CyborgJA
09-04-2006, 10:13 AM
@JM : I'm glad you like it !

Well...a big news... after 23 no stop hours of work I've finished Antonio's portrait.


You can find high res image here (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/AntonioPortrait.jpg)
click here for 1:1 details (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/APdetails.jpg)
click here for steps (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/steps/AntonioPortrait.jpg)
Waiting for critics and comments...
Serena.

jmBoekestein
09-04-2006, 10:23 AM
AH that's the way Serena!!! Congrats and great to put such effort in!! :bounce:

notpill
09-04-2006, 07:26 PM
Greatttt job cyborg-serena:scream:!
let me say, you are the volcano here.:applause:

CyborgJA
09-05-2006, 06:43 PM
thank youuuuuu :thumbsup:


I'm having some troubles submitting it on 2D forumgallery. Hope to solve them soon.

Welll... I'll update this 3D with the basic scheme for "Bianca e Nero" a pic that in my mind should describe a white nacked woman riding a night balck stallion in a magic place.
Of coruse, it's the pic that I was developing far my stairs wall, you can find the first basic sketch in the previous page but...I think I'll remanage it to better show the woman.

So...see you soon,
Serena. :)

CyborgJA
09-06-2006, 04:04 PM
Next pic :

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BEN_002.jpg




Do not ask me what she is looking for. I've not decided yet. :scream:

Maybe I'll add some knights in the background....

See you soon,
Serena.

CyborgJA
09-08-2006, 07:55 PM
Updated.
I'll correct horse's shadow...but...tomorrow! Now I only need my bed :)


http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BEN_003.jpg

Salubri3i
09-09-2006, 01:14 AM
great dynamic piece here. hope to see more updates soon. :bounce:

danielh68
09-09-2006, 03:27 AM
Hi Serena, looks like a great start. Already a strong narrative. I was about to ask "what is she looking for?" and then I read your statment below :) I look forward to seeing updates.

CyborgJA
09-09-2006, 11:50 AM
Hi Serena, looks like a great start. Already a strong narrative. I was about to ask "what is she looking for?" and then I read your statment below :) I look forward to seeing updates.


@salubri : thank you very much !


@daniel68 : yes, this time I will put all my knowledges in this pic. From composition to colormanagement. And I've studied that a good image always tells a story. This one will talk about myself. I'll tell you more in next steps.

Time to work nooowww!
Hear you soon !

pap87
09-10-2006, 10:09 AM
I look forward to seeing this one unfold.

CyborgJA
09-10-2006, 03:30 PM
I've polished the background in order to fix perspective and then work in a better way on subjects.

Now I must decide which color variation fits my idea.

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BEN_003_ColorVariations.jpg

See you soon,
Serena.

Stefander
09-10-2006, 03:34 PM
I like the top iright one... It looks just right... Might not fit your idea, though...

pap87
09-11-2006, 11:05 AM
I like the last one, the blue one, because it reminds me of the germanic forest in "Gladiator", dunno if you seen it.

CyborgJA
09-12-2006, 03:38 PM
Good afternoon !

@stefander : I agree.
@Pap87 : the blue one was absolutely perfect for a fighting scene. I started to work on it but then...I was unable to place all the subjects cause it was too cold to represent what I had in my mind. But thank you very much for your opinion ! :love:

Finally I've discovered what I want to express in this pic.
It will be an allegoric view about one angle of my soul : the desire of childhood's happyness.
I've structured it in 3 main areas : past, present and future.

The knights in the background (past) are the enemies that I've won. They always follow me and they are still dangerous for my soul. I'm sure that you know how much pain memories can cause.

In the present I'm the nacked woman that rides a black stallion, my unique aid, my mum..black as the night cause she has got a strong "backbone" and it's not so simple to cooperate with her. I'm trying to reach the ghost of a little girl....the happyness of my childhood.

The future is shown in the piece of trunk in the bottom left corner : a lizard looking at a fly . No one knows if the fly will survive.


Techinical details : I can only tell you that I'll use dulled colors even if I know that I'll partially kill the dynamism of the pic.


C&C are welcome !
See you soon,
Serena.


http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BEN_004.jpg

LDiehl
09-12-2006, 07:32 PM
Very interesting start here :) I think trying to incorporate that much personal iconography into a single work would drive me nuts ;) Makes the image more intriguing though. I can't wait to see how things shape up. What will the visual focal point of the piece be?

CyborgJA
09-16-2006, 01:04 PM
@LDiehl : thank you very much !
Ah...well.. you are right but I love challenges... I must try :thumbsup:
The focus will be placed on the nacked woman. I'll improve contrast and play with complementary colors...you have only to wait :love:

Well. I've got news. I'm working on the background and I've found a lot of troubles. The first and the most important was the trees' perspective. I started to paint them freely and I obtained a pure mess. Pure perspective mess...yes.
So I've decided to use a trick. I know that a real artist should not use tricks and paint from the heart but...I'm still in training and I need this kind of aid to paint it as I've got in my mind.

For this reason I've decided to share with you this little trick hoping that it will help you in future.

1. First of all, choose your tree and sketch it or take its structure from a photo.
2. Create a background (or use your pic's one) with a fixed horizon line and start to duplicate the layer with your tree. Manage it, scale it, change its opacity always following main perspective rules and finally merge them all. You'll obtain something like a 'guide layer'. I've made this one for you in about 3 minutes. As you can see it's quite easy and you don't have to waste on it your time.
http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BENTrick0.jpg

3. Now I suggest you to place this layer UNDER your pic's background in order to be better "connected" with your starting idea and to better see lights and shadows and all objects interactions.
4. Play with opacity and follow your trees' perspective scheme painting your forest.
5. Have lots of coffee breaks cause it will take few hours :scream:


Here my pic. As you can see I've painted the left top area following my trees' scheme. On the right side you can see it under the main colors layer.
http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BEN_005.jpg


Here a cropout. I'm using charcoal on linen canvas. I love the roughtness of the sign that I'm obtaining.
http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BEN_005det.jpg


Do you like it?
Serena.

PremiereBoris
09-16-2006, 05:12 PM
I am loving it! You are right, it gives it an awesome look and feel!

Damselfly
09-16-2006, 05:33 PM
This is a really interesting piece, CyborgJA! Can't wait to see how it progresses!

jmBoekestein
09-16-2006, 05:56 PM
Yup! The trees are really good, it promises a very intense background! Can't wait to see it progress. :D

CyborgJA
09-17-2006, 12:37 AM
@PremiereBoris, Damselfly, JMBoekestein : thank you very much! :love:


@JmBoekestein : I've decided to post here what I've made this evening thank to our discussion on "how to create an human body".
Of course I use the classic, old, blocks-structured way to define main volumes and planes. I've made these 3 flash movies in about 25 minutes of work :

#1 Sketching Session (2111KB) (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/SpringTime0.swf)
# 2 applying colors A (5051KB) (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/SpringTime1.swf)
# 3 applying colors B (3661KB) (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/SpringTime2.swf)

In my mind this pic is composed by these concepts : "spring" "fresh" "water" "crystal sound" "vivid" "pure air".
Of course...I've to develop it.

Well...it's time to have a sleeping-session .
Tomorrow morning I'll go to a bonsai-show. I hope to come back with tons of inspiration.

See you soon,
Serena.

LDiehl
09-17-2006, 01:14 AM
Thanks for sharing those little videos. I always love to see another artist at work. :)

CyborgJA
09-17-2006, 07:26 AM
Goodmorning !
Well Laura.. viewing it with fresh-morning eyes I can tell that I should put her left arm totally under her breast's shadow and give it a little shift to the top of the pic to better show her breast's torsion.
Doesn't matter, I'll fix it :)

I've got here my espresso, I've done a great breakfast and now I'm ready to start my forest again.

Good morning :thumbsup:

slickgreekgeo
09-17-2006, 10:07 AM
Mornin' Serena. Put down the expresso and get back to work:D

Seriously though, this is looking great; Very good choice in colors, has a very dramatic feel to it. Still too early for any serious critique at this point, so keep it coming.

CyborgJA
09-20-2006, 10:53 PM
@slickgreekgeo : I promise. Tomorrow I won't drink more than 3 coffees :twisted:
Eheh. Soon news....soooonn news.

In the meantime, I've decided to subscribe rebeccak's anatomy workshop (thank to jmBoekestein) and I suggest you all to have fun with human body.

Here my first plate. Torso 4/50 :scream:

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/Torso01.jpg

See you tomorrow morning, of course, after my first coffee. :applause:

LDiehl
09-20-2006, 11:49 PM
Love the anatomy studies. I'm tempted to try it myself. ;)

Iridyse
09-21-2006, 06:15 AM
Serena, the anatomy studies look fantastic! I love what you have done and I'm rather inspired to do some myself now :D Great job!

4 already too, argh! :D

CyborgJA
09-21-2006, 10:35 AM
@laura : I'm waiting for you on rebeccak's thread !:bounce:
@Iridyse : I've seen all your studies and I can tell that are amazing without any dubt but I'm glad if I gave you an inspiration input. Yes, 4 of....50 ! I must work this night ! :scream:

See you soon,
Serena.

Shadowbrooke
09-21-2006, 05:36 PM
Hi Serena :)

wow those torso studies are great, twisting poses and all. Truly impressive work! :applause:
Will be back to gawk some more...:)

CyborgJA
09-25-2006, 10:32 AM
Thank you Kelandra !

Here another plate, click on it for a larger view :

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/Torso02.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/steps/Torso02.jpg)



I must run at my university now :scream:
See you :love:
Serena.

Iridyse
09-25-2006, 11:05 AM
Lovely work as always!:) I really like how one can see the patches of paint.

Gisaiagami
09-25-2006, 11:20 AM
another great exercise Congratulations a lot

I have that to start to make something similar to learn to paint :D

danielh68
09-25-2006, 04:12 PM
I really enjoy the anatomy studies, Serena. Excellent work. I look forward to seeing more. :)

Cris-Palomino
09-25-2006, 06:19 PM
Serena,

Just got a chance to go through your thread (I find myself saying that a lot now - so many great threads to look through). With Palomino as a last name, you can imagine I have an affinity for horses and yours are very beautiful. I love the development of the scene with the woman on the horse as well as your torso studies.

Great work!
Cris

Shadowbrooke
09-26-2006, 04:57 AM
Hi Serena!

Those are pretty awesome anatomy torso studies. My favs are #055 and #082...the twisting torso you did looks so dynamic! And I don't know why but the vines on the torso just caught my eyes and kept it there. The tonal values are really great too :thumbsup: Keep up the good work! :)

CyborgJA
09-26-2006, 11:09 AM
Wow, how many posts!
I'm really happy :love:
I promise you that I'll post updates soon but now I must focus all my energies on 2 exams that are killing me. I'm studying for 16hs each day. :sad:

Hear you soon,
Serena.

CyborgJA
09-29-2006, 10:03 PM
Hi there!

A 90 mins plate for torso's workshop (click on it to a larger pic 600KB)

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/Torso03.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/steps/Torso03.jpg)



And a little sketch made 1 week ago, after a chat with EvilMau about 3D modeling. This one has been created as 'lineguide' for a 3D monster but I don't know if EM will have the time so...this is its place. Ah..I really don't know anything about the 3D field so I apologize if it is uncomplete or bad-made. I love it cause it is quite ironic.
Click on for a larger pic (as usual 8) )


http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/show/Mostrilla.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/Mostrilla.jpg)



See you soon,
Serena :)

LDiehl
09-30-2006, 01:16 AM
Love the torso plate as usual.

I only took one semester of 3d. I do know that the front, back, and side views should be of the exact same pose (only rotated) to me of maximum help to the modeler, but that's about it :P I also know that 3d people are weird 0_o, rather pale and vampiric. ;)

Shadowbrooke
10-01-2006, 04:17 PM
Hi Serena,

Nice torso studies! I like these a lot, esp the ones with back muscles.

The 3D sketch looks interesting. I might be completely off (since I used to use 3D Max to model) but it's easier to model the character if figure was drawn with arms and legs spread out...like Leonardo's Vitruvian Man pose. Good character design :) and as always, looking forward to more updates! :bounce:

Brooke :)

pap87
10-02-2006, 06:38 AM
Very nice anatomy work, you're very good with it. What's happening with the girl on the horse pic?

About the 3D stuff,
It's not necessary to draw limbs spread out or anything but the pose like Laura said has to be the same in both pics and the features (eyes, mouth, shoulders ... everything) have to line up exactly to make the modeler's life easier. Oh and and it should be orthogonal view so absolutely no perspective in the front and side view. You could do a perspective drawing separately just to help the modeler get an even better understainding of the forms etc.

Hope that helps.:eek:

CyborgJA
10-02-2006, 08:20 AM
;writ; ;writ; ;writ;
WOW ! Thank you very much for your tips! I've copy-pasted them all on my tips' book :bounce::love:

Well, today I've got a 3 hs break from my study and my home-work ( I'm ristoring some areas of my home with my mum ) and I'm going to start the 4th plate for the anatomy workshop. I promise you that I'll increase my speed. I'm too slow in painting...maybe I should ask Helzer what he eats in his breakfast :wise:

See you soon,
Serena.

Cris-Palomino
10-02-2006, 09:52 AM
Serena, to give you an example. Draw your character, as Pap says, in orthoganal views. Once you set up one view, give yourself landmarks. On this drawing, I put as many landmarks as needed to line up the ears, nose, eyes, bottom of the shirt, belly, arms, etc. Most times, you can take the front view and flip it and draw out the back. This character is symmetrical, but if your character is asymmetrical, you need to watch for where you would see the differences when drawing out the side views.

http://www.elektralusion.com/painter/Turns.jpg

It gets you really thinking in 3D when you can visuallize all angles of your characters.

Cris

CyborgJA
10-05-2006, 01:55 PM
Thank you very much Chris.
You'll see soon the results of your tips soon!


@pap87 : it is here even if I really have NOTIME to take my pen and paint.
As you can see I've started to define the background, expecially the trees of the right-lighted area. I've decided to use smooth and soft brushes to better render all the details of the subjects and -in the same time- add a touch of blur to enhance the 'out of focus' of the background so I'll polish all the areas that have got strong and rough lines (see the difference between trees on the left and trees on the right).
The ground : I think I'll first start to define all the subjects and only after that I'll paint the grass. I really do not want to waste my time in the malicious spiral of modify subject then background then again subject.. etc etc :scream:

So....I think that now you can start to understand what I've got in my mind. How about the composition?
http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BEN_006.jpg

See you soon,
Serena.

pap87
10-05-2006, 02:45 PM
Sorry, I'm not trying to rush you.

But wow, the background looks fantastic!
I can't see any problems with anything yet. The knights look like the horse guys from Lord of the Rings 1. Already they seem to fit perfectly into the the background even though they're just blocked in. Composition looks quite pleasing.

I look forward to the next update. :)

LDiehl
10-05-2006, 02:54 PM
Likewise, I think the background is much improved. I await the updates! ;)

CyborgJA
10-09-2006, 02:46 PM
@pap87: the 'notime' wasn't referred to your post :thumbsup: I really worked all days and nights in last week. AAAAA... I would like an entire stock of caffeine !
Feel ALWAYS free to write anything runs in your mind. Remember, ALWAYS. It really helps me a lot and I love your comments all. :love:

Yes, the knights are LOTR's ones. Of course I'll modify them :buttrock:

@Laura : I'm still working on it. I think I'll update it this night.

During my 4PM coffee break I've received an old friend with her baby and I've done this 5 minutes sketch for her.
Hope you like it.

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/Beauty.jpg

See you soon,
Serena.

arnocob
10-09-2006, 04:52 PM
Hi Serena!
Your body studies are great, and I 'll go back later for an update of the "knights, girl, horse"cause it's very promising and ambitious (nothing to crit right now)
Bye:)

howlinghorse
10-09-2006, 07:31 PM
What great work :) can't wait to see more!

CyborgJA
10-10-2006, 07:43 AM
@arnocob : wow, thank you very much! I'm really honoured to be in your network list :eek:

@howlinghorse :soooonn you'll see more :thumbsup:

zng-Y
10-10-2006, 08:54 AM
Hey, can't wait to see more of that woman-on-horse-saves-kid piece :scream: .Great job on the horse sketches in the beginning of this thread. Also the anatomy sketches look realy good. Keep it up!

slickgreekgeo
10-10-2006, 10:54 AM
The 'horse' piece is looking great, can't wait to see the progress. Get crackin' :D

pap87
10-10-2006, 11:27 AM
I hope you aren't changing the knights because of my comment because I really like them as they are, don't want to give the wrong impression. But if you want to change them merely because you want to then that's cool.

Shadowbrooke
10-10-2006, 02:56 PM
Hi Serena,

First of all, thanks for the skin tones tutorials :) Saved it in my folder!

I think your painting of the knight is turning out really nice! I like the forest and the Death on his horse. Also noticed the gecko in front :) Cool!

CyborgJA
10-16-2006, 02:22 PM
@zng-Y, slickgreekgeo : thank you very much ! :)

@pap87: yes I want to change them but of course I've no ideas. AAAHhh damn.

@kelandra : I'm glad you found it interesting :)


News news news.

I've spent hours on polishing and smudging the forest cause its roughness had a fight with the smoothness and softness of the horses's touch. So, what I've done :
- polished all the trees and added more details
- blured them all with photoshop to add depth
- started to paint the 3 horses on background
- added 'smog' and clouds all around them


What I must do NOW : decide how I'll describe the knights.


As usual, this is a little preview. You can download the bigger file (1250 pxl) simple clicking on it.

Warning : I really don't know how to paint the knights so I've 'attached' them to horses using another layer. So don't worry about nexks' lines and colors discrepancy

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BEN_007r.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BEN_007.jpg)

See you soon,
Serena.

danielh68
10-16-2006, 02:30 PM
Serena, your work is really coming along. I know it's in its early stages, but you definitely have a great composition to build from. The particular way the light leads into the focal point is very appealing and dramatic. I think you have a perfect balance of lights and darks. Awesome work, I look forward to further updates :)

Iridyse
10-16-2006, 02:37 PM
You have a really dynamic piece here Serena! I think the composition is looking fabulous. Looking forward to updates!

Gisaiagami
10-16-2006, 02:48 PM
dynamic and the background atmosphere is very nice
congratsand keep up

CyborgJA
10-18-2006, 04:49 PM
Thank you very much !
I'm working on the black stallion right now but in my tea-break I've made this quick sketch to have what I call "paint-candy", a pure enjoying picture.

So...this is a 30 minutes work....I really want to adopt a cat...yes....mmm maybe 2...

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/TeaCup.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/steps/TeaCup.jpg)


see you soon,
Serena.

Cris-Palomino
10-18-2006, 04:58 PM
I've been watching you develop your stallion image and can't wait to see where you go with it. I love your latest "fun" sketch....love the little cat. My cat, Nicolas, who is adopted, says, yes...adopt!

Cris

Gisaiagami
10-18-2006, 04:59 PM
the cat is cutie
great work

jmBoekestein
10-18-2006, 05:02 PM
haha yeah it's really funny. :) I want one too.I'm watching a documentary about streetcats in ROme right now coincidentaly, they're very cute, maybe you should kidnap one :scream: .

Your piece is developing very well. Like was said very dynamic and I love the mood set with the trees you've made. :D

zng-Y
10-18-2006, 05:13 PM
Aawww so cute :scream: . We already got a cat and she just rocks! She's more like an outside-cat but i like it :D

Iridyse
10-18-2006, 05:17 PM
Awwww that's so cute! I want a cat too , but my spoilt little brat of a dog will never allow that.

Gisaiagami
10-18-2006, 05:23 PM
wow i love dog too Irydse
My dream ys drawing the girl, the dog and a beach sunset
wow

Shadowbrooke
10-19-2006, 04:26 AM
Hi Serena :)

Aw..those sketches are adorable. I love how your cat says he wants a cup too (or she?). I want a cat too...sadly I have to wait because the place I'm staying at right now has a "no pets" policy. Pooh!

Keep working on that stallion :) The background is already looking great. Be careful about updates...Shreya might poke you! ha ha...

Brooke.

CyborgJA
10-20-2006, 12:04 PM
Herrrrrr... I adore cats but there's a little problem : I live with my mother and she hates them. SO...uhm..it will be a "mission impossible" 8)
But you know....I'm a methodic woman...I'll obtain this adoption one day :)

Winter is coming here in Italy, so yesterday I've decided to spend all my day in what we call "autumn cleanings". It's incredible how many things we buy and we store in thousands of wardrobes and drawers. Doing that I've discovered an old brochure that guided me to an incredible farm where there are 38 horses, 400 cows, a lot of goats and all the "poltry" (I don't know the right word, please correct me if it's wrong). Luckily I met the owner and he promised to give me full access to his horses. I'm SO happy! I'll finally see horses from live, I'll touch them freely and I'll be able to see how they run! :bounce:

I've worked on the black stallion and I've finished its planes at 95%. I really want to fix its volumes as I see in my mind without external tips or -I know myself- I'll loose the starting idea. It's not so simple cause of the 3/4 view and the lighting. I'm going crazy for this kind of lighting. It's the main subject and I've to obtain maximum contrast on it without cutting it from the scene. I know that you can clearly undestand my words. I think I'll be able to post it this night even if this evening I've to set up 2 pcs for a workshop that will take place tomorrow morning.


Good work to all,
Serena.

jmBoekestein
10-20-2006, 03:58 PM
Evil mum you have :surprised ... how can she hate cats?


And good you found that folder after all. SOunds like your kind of place :). Good luck on the horses, I'm eager to see the results.

arnocob
10-21-2006, 07:13 PM
Hi Serena!
Cute cat!
Abut the "horse, death, knight"...I like what you've done with the death character, but...and excuse me:), I prefered the precedent background forest version...
I agree with some blur to add depth, on the other hand
Just my opinion, but there is maybe too much blur (like "clouds")
These "clouds" seems to be placed "under" the forest and not enough in good shadows places..it disturbs a bit the overall forest.
Well, I hope that this comment doesn't sound too hard.
Don't worry, it's just my opinion and nobody said that. I don't want to disturbs you in the wip process.:)
I'll look for an update, by then you can hate me if you want:)

CyborgJA
10-21-2006, 07:34 PM
First of all feel ALWAYS free to write what you really think. I'm not "touchy" and I prefer to learn and improve my technique than close myself in my ego-castle.

I agree with you that these smog-clouds cut the perspective and the depth on the pic. I was unsure about their opacity and 'shape' and volume and this is the reason why I've painted them on a different layer so the forest is yet "untouched".

Now I need to finish in a quite-good way all the subjects in order to obtain a better idea of how the pic will look on paper and only later I'll fix all these interactions between elements.

I've added your tip in my post-it note and don't worry that I'll stress you asking for composition and balance. Dehehe I'm ready to adsorb all your knowledge mann :drool:


To all : I've spent all the day as IT assistan for a workshop on pneumonia and I promise you that I'll post Nero this night.

See you later,
Serena.

CyborgJA
10-21-2006, 09:53 PM
As promised, Nero...



http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BEN_009.jpg



I don't know how I'll paint the mane or tail or other details. As you can see I've left few "guidelines" on its legs...I'll fix them later. Now I absolutely have to describe Bianca and fix the purplish spot that I've left in the background cause of a profile mismatch ;damn;



@JM : well I don't know why she hates cats but if you want, I can send her to you home for a mind-washing 8))))


My bed is calling mw with a sexy voice... see you soon,
Serena.

Iridyse
10-22-2006, 06:43 AM
The horses are looking fantastic Serena. I can't wait for you to get started on the human figures!

Eagerly waiting for updates.

slickgreekgeo
10-22-2006, 06:49 AM
I agree, the horses are already very impressive looking. Some suggestions: the contrast of the background is a bit too high, I'm you're you'll fix that soon though.

Keep it up!

zng-Y
10-22-2006, 11:02 AM
woah those horses look incredible. Can't wait to see those characters finished to.

howlinghorse
10-22-2006, 11:31 AM
Woah! Those horses look awesome. That front one's gotta be a friesian. I also love the lighting - it's giving the painting a lot of depth. Can't wait to see more!

jmBoekestein
10-22-2006, 12:17 PM
Awesome work on the horses!! :thumbsup: They look so fast too. :D

CyborgJA
10-22-2006, 11:42 PM
@slickgreekgeo : hem...I'm a dummy...can you explain me what you mean? I'm very interested :)

@all : thank you very much. Your words really help me :)


I've worked since the 6 of this morning and I've 'finished' Bianca 30 minutes ago.
I'm without energy. Believe me. I've spent 4 hs at the mirror looking at my face and how the fat rolls on my face's muscles to repaint it in the right way....with the right feeling...the right "touch" (of course, this is my face) Then I've fighted against this strange pose. I think I've repainted it 10 times. I'm quiet satisfied for the work made with her breast but, I've to work a lot on right leg's lighting. And...of course, I'll paint hair and other details...later.

Ah...I think I'll add a hawk but...I'll see tomorrow :)

Please, tell me what you think...in the meantime I'll have a loooooong sleep till tomorrow.
Kisses, hugs and tons of blankets,
Serena.

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BEN_010.jpg

jmBoekestein
10-22-2006, 11:43 PM
Like I said, that's just awesome work Serena!!! SHe is beautiful and she looks extremely real, the values and colours ar beautiful!!:love:

howlinghorse
10-22-2006, 11:59 PM
ohmy god!
This is getting more beautiful by the day. I'm sorry to be such a useless commentor, I'd try and be more helpful if I thought you needed it, but you are doing so amazingly that I will just sit back and enjoy the show!

bbob
10-23-2006, 12:40 AM
Oh my, thats absolutely incredible work!

Subscribed btw..

Cris-Palomino
10-23-2006, 07:00 AM
Wow, talk about things coming together! Gorgeous, Serena, simply gorgeous.

Cris

Iridyse
10-23-2006, 07:17 AM
You've left me speechless, Serena. She is looking fantastic!!
I can't wait to see more, I'm completely in love with this piece.

Rest well, you have completely earned it:)

CyborgJA
10-24-2006, 08:36 AM
wel...what can I say....thank you :love:
I'm studying for another exam so I think I won't have a lot for this pic of time but I'll do my best :)

Serena

Pegahoul
10-24-2006, 09:33 AM
Beautiful! I love the lighting and the horse is gorgeous!

CyborgJA
10-24-2006, 09:48 AM
Mm viewing it now...it's too quiet compared to the woman. I'll modify a little its muzzle.

Well...I start to work on the little ghost-girl, good work to all !

Serena.

Zethriel
10-24-2006, 10:08 AM
Ciao Serena,anke se di 2d mi occupo poco devo ammetere ke mi piace perecchio questo wip sopratutto l'uso ke stai facendo della luce.
Di tanto in tanto verrò a vedere i progressi,per il momento ti faccio i complimenti e ti saluto.

slickgreekgeo
10-24-2006, 12:35 PM
Wow, your latest update is impressive as hell. The lightning effects are some of the best I've seen in a very long time. Keep it up, you'll have another masterpiece in your hands.

LDiehl
10-24-2006, 02:20 PM
Wow, the time you spent on the woman was worth it. I almost wish she were a larger in the composition. :) I also admire your skill painting horses.

The thing that is bugging me most at the moment is the fog and forest in the background. It feels too flat, like most of the fog has just been painted on top of it not within it -if that makes any sense. I'm just not getting a clear read of depth from it. Maybe make the front trees a big more concrete and make the depth more gradual. I would eliminate some of the "swirlidge" in the upper mist.

Here are a couple reference images I found:

http://www.emailsacrosstheocean.com/cthippo/241-23.jpg (http://www.emailsacrosstheocean.com/cthippo/241-23.jpg)

http://loxosceles.org/log_pix/img_0862s.jpg (http://loxosceles.org/log_pix/img_0862s.jpg)

Shadowbrooke
10-24-2006, 03:42 PM
Hi Serena,

Wow wow what lovely updates! The woman turns out beautifully and the horse looks awesome too. Just...wow! Can we some close-ups when you're done please?! :) Can't wait to see how you'll paint the ghost girl. Exquisite work! Keep it up :thumbsup:

Hope your exam went well.

Brooke.

CyborgJA
10-25-2006, 02:02 PM
Hi to everyone !
I really want to thank you all for your words.

Brooke, I'll surely do a crop-out 'collection' but if you need a specific area, you only have to ask for it :thumbsup: Herr....the exam-day is friday. I MUST exit painter and start to study !

Laura, I've read your post yesterday while I was having a study-break and it produced in me a lot of thoughts. You are absolutely right. The kind of smog-clouds produced by knights cuts all the perspective in this pic. Having some experiments based on your reference I've noticed what really hurts me: value's harmony is totally off.

Why? Simply cause I've got a chara-designer DNA and I focus myself only on 1 subject at time and I loose the general perception of the pic.

A possible solution : I'll order to myself to have a 5 minutes-break each hours in which I'll desaturate the whole pic and think about harmony.

This is a little experiment that I've made to prove my theory : I've desaturated the latest pic posted in this forum and I've compared it to the 'state of art' on my pc. I've duplicated the background layer, and put it on multiply, without clouds.
Of course the background is darker but it helps A LOT to focus the attention on Bianca. Surely I've to work for hours on black horse's lighting but....for me...it runs better.

Yes...I've painted at 90% the ghost girl. As you can see I'm used to start with the white skull so I prefer to paint her hair first and them show her :)


http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BEN11.jpg


Changing argument, this morning I had an incredible gift by my mum. Sometimes she really is a genius. You have to know that my studio is right on her bedroom (yes our home is 'narrow' and organized on more floors) and I always hurts her when I 'run' from my workstation to the bedroom to see myself at the mirror and study my body as reference for my pics. So....she decided to buy a "desk-mirror" for me ! It's a slim and light mirror 50x30 cm easy to lock on the working table right near my monitor and my desk-lamp. I can use myself as reference without leaving my pc ^____________^
I painted these 3 hands for Shreya's work using it

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/25-10-2006.jpg

See you soon,
(hated exam :scream:) Serena.

danielh68
10-25-2006, 02:24 PM
Serena, this is so impressive. This piece will be a milestone for you. When you finish, you will be on a whole new artistic level. The lighting, the anatomy, the narrative...there's just so much promise to this piece. I'm really eager to see each new update. Fantastic work :)

zng-Y
10-25-2006, 02:28 PM
You are stupid! You can't come to my children's party! :cry: ...it just looks too real , great work :cry:

Iridyse
10-25-2006, 02:33 PM
:love:

Serena, you dazzle us with every update. The atmosphere is looking fantastic now. I'm glad you took the fog out, it looks much better this way, also with the increased darks. The little girl is looking very nice too, can't wait to see a bigger version!

And thank you SO much for the wonderful sketches, the third one is exactly what I was looking for. I guess there goes my grand plan of not using refs, hahah. All threesketches are brilliant. After studying those I also noticed that I needed to add more shadows to that hand. Silly me for not having thought of it earlier :D.

Many many thanks! *hugs*

edit: Best of luck for your exam!

frostblade
10-25-2006, 02:55 PM
nice updates :)

I can finally see all the pics now coz zonealarm use to always block them.

zng-Y
10-25-2006, 06:34 PM
Hey Serena, do you work in greyscale and give the piece later on colors or do you work in color?

Shadowbrooke
10-25-2006, 11:31 PM
Hi Serena :) Oh sometimes when I save paintings onto my desktop I also like to collect the close up he he...I would really like the close-up of the horse, the woman's face, and the ghost girl. Hope it's not too much to ask...only when you're done, no rush at all! I really enjoy the progress.

Btw those are awesome hands! :bounce:

Brooke.

CyborgJA
10-26-2006, 12:12 AM
@daniel: man I'm honoured to read such words!

@zng-y : ahhahaa, have you enjoyed yourself too? Well... B&W is my history cause I've spent all my childhood and most of my adolescence with pure B pencil and white paper so, when I've to paint quick sketches I always make them in greyscale. Of course, I'm not painting in greyscale this time, even if - to be honest- I'm not trained with colors. This is the reason why I always create a mess with values :scream:

@Shreya : I'm glad you like it. Well, this night I've erased all the girl's head cause I've few photo of mine as child and I was not satisfied by my work. Herr.. I'll restart it friday :)
About references... I can only share my experience and it tells me that of course I can work without refs if I'm painting a quite 'fast' sketch where I can render the 3D idea with a quick touch of light and shadows but when I have to paint tiny details, or define a body with a strange light...there's no way...I must put myself in front of a mirror. Of course....I hope I'll improve my technique and touch Loomis' feet :arteest::buttrock:


@frostblade : baaaaddd firewall! I'm not scanning your udp-ports :applause:

@Brooke : there's NO problem. I've got a new post-it note on my desktop with your requests. I hope I'll send them...soon!


Golden dreams to you,
Serena.

Cris-Palomino
10-26-2006, 12:23 AM
Serena, you go, girl! Great work. Love your thought process.

When I started working at Disney, one of the things I learned to have at my desk was a little table top mirror. When we were drawing Pooh or Piglet or one of the princesses, we would "make faces" in the mirror to get the look right.

Loving your new piece.
Cris

pap87
10-26-2006, 03:06 PM
Lol, I just noticed the bird sketched just above the girl and the little quote.

Love the atmosphere you've created, kinda like a bad dream where you try to move but you're frozen.

You're making enormous progress. It's great to see a materpiece in the making! :thumbsup:

CyborgJA
10-29-2006, 12:53 AM
@cris : it's an useful 'trick'. Have you got any other suggestion for the 'expression-painting' process? :love:

@pap: eheheh do you like it? I'll develop the idea...be sure !


NEWS ! This night I've painted the girl's face. I must be honest. It has been a challenge cause I really don't know anything about babies' anatomy. I've used TONS of references (thanks to saint google) and I still have troubles with her neck. But of course...I'll fix it :)

Click here to see the whole image (158 KB x 1000 px) (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BEN_012.jpg)

and this is a cropout of the girl's face :

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BENdetail0.jpg


See you soon,
Serena.

howlinghorse
10-29-2006, 01:25 AM
Serena, this is just a wonderful painting. :D The lighting and values are really delicious. I have nothing to critique, I can't wait to see what you do with it next. I've just GOT to ask what's going on - why is the little girl smiling? Why is she being chased?

slickgreekgeo
10-29-2006, 11:47 AM
This is coming along very nicely, you seem to have fixed the contrast problem in the background as well. No critiques at this point, you're working very nicely so far. Just keep it coming, and no doubt you'll end up with a masterpiece.

Salubri3i
10-30-2006, 12:18 AM
wonderful painting serena. it's nice to see this evolve. :love:

will you be putting hints of shapes and form in the dark parts? coz right now they just seem like dark pools and i think it hurts the painting a bit. ;)

LDiehl
10-30-2006, 12:22 AM
Ahhh yes, Saint Google is invaluable ;) I love the ephemeral, misty quality that the girls face has right now. It really lends a dreamlike feel.

CyborgJA
10-30-2006, 09:06 AM
@ceinwen : well, the ghost girl symbolizes my lost childhood's happiness, this is the reason why she is smiling and this is the reason why the young nacked woman (me) is trying to reach her)

@george : thank you very much and be sure that I'll use your great tutorial on textures !


@ryan : yes I think I'll add something like a purple-violet light coming from the left knight to define trees' shapes

@Laura : yes it's right, I'll be lost without it. It's sad to write but it seems that I've no more time to go out and SEE by myself how things are. I only hope that after this lauream I'll have more spare time to see the world. Thank you for the critic on her face. It's what I was searching for :)


Well, I'm painting the lizard right now. I'll post updates soon !

Serena

CyborgJA
10-30-2006, 11:41 AM
A polished lizard :

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BENDetail1.jpg



Serena :)/

Iridyse
10-30-2006, 01:11 PM
The chiaroscuro on the face is lovely! I think some more light should creep into the chin though (from the lower lip to the chin, a reverse S shape). The gecko looks really nice too, rather ominous.
I love your progress through this piece! :buttrock:

slickgreekgeo
10-30-2006, 08:24 PM
Indeed it does, it's very subtle which is what I like about it. You gotta appreciate those little details...

Cris-Palomino
10-30-2006, 08:41 PM
This gets lovelier and lovelier. I do agree with Shreya on the light on her face. You have a little bit of light on the shoulder and yet the face is closer to us with more light. Hitting a few spots lightly, I think. Just the tiniest bit of light on edges and some key planes.

Cris

zng-Y
10-31-2006, 11:48 AM
Woah, Serena, this is just astonishing work! congrats in advance :D haha

CyborgJA
10-31-2006, 11:50 AM
@cris, shreya : ohh yes, I've understood what you mean. This happens when I create different areas of a subject in more days. Maybe I've got a variable eye :scream:

I'll fix it as soon as possible :)

pap87
10-31-2006, 01:34 PM
I'm glad you didn't make the lizard red like it was in it's sketchy state, but this lizard you've made now looks perfect. Very nice attention to details. :thumbsup:

Shadowbrooke
10-31-2006, 03:18 PM
wow nice lizard! (Sorry I thought it was a gecko, eek!) The whole image is really coming together incredibly!

CyborgJA
10-31-2006, 08:58 PM
I had a busy day, I'm quite tired BUT I've to do one more thing this evening.
As I wrote 2 weeks ago, I've found a farm where the owners gave me full access. Yesterday afternoon I went to one of the horses' area and I really enjoyed with these superb animals.

As you know horses are not an 'easy-to-manage' kind of animals (especially when you love skittish-jumpers). First of all you have to obtain their confidence to stay freely into their paddock, so I spent 1h in a corner, leaving them to touch my skin and my hair with their muzzles. Then I understood the secret key http://forum.html.it/forum/images/smilies/cool.gif : scratch them. When I started to scratch their neck and belly I had 2 "sticked-horses" and of course I've spent one more hour in relax.
During the first hour I made a sketch of the adjacent area that contains 3 quartehorses. I've polished it and made a stronger perspective using ps (I really want to thank George for the "treshold" trick that saved a lot of time).

This is the result (click on it for a 1600pxl W image):
http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/show/30-10-2006.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/30-10-2006.jpg)

Of course I'll return soon to this green oasis and I'll post there all my sketches hoping that you'll find them useful for your works.

Serena :)

zng-Y
11-01-2006, 10:09 AM
I hate you for sketching/drawing horses this good ! :banghead: but for all the rest: you are a nice girl ;) Maybe you CAN come to my childsparty. :scream:

CyborgJA
11-04-2006, 01:14 PM
Thank you zng-Y


Another one :

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/show/03-11-2006.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/03-11-2006.jpg)

Like the other, I've sketched it from live and the cleaned all the lines via pc.

Serena (working on girl's chin ^_^)

pap87
11-05-2006, 03:55 AM
I like how you've defined the forms in the last two pics. They actually look better in the thumbnails that at higher res.

Cris-Palomino
11-05-2006, 07:57 AM
I like how easily you break up the forms with areas of shadow and light, Serena. It shows how well you understand your subject.

Cris

slickgreekgeo
11-05-2006, 12:42 PM
Great sketches, always good to see an artist practicing from life. I gotta do that more often...

jmBoekestein
11-05-2006, 08:30 PM
It just gets better and better Serena! I really love the one with nero and Bianca!! Truelly put the subjects there as if tangible!!! :thumbsup: ANd you're an inspiration of mine for working so hard! See yah soon I hope :bowdown:

:wavey:

CyborgJA
11-08-2006, 11:12 PM
@pap87 : yes I agree. I think that without a basic shading they are more readable as thumbnails :)

@cris : to be honest, I'm used to sketch from live only in full sun. This helps me A LOT. :buttrock:

@george : I think there's a whole world of inspiration right out my home-door. In my case, my dg-art passion closes a little my eyes. I must fix it.

@JanMark : man...you know that I'll ask for you help when I'll define her breast, isn't it? :love:


News about Bianca & Nero:
-started to define grass and Nero
- added some tiny details on the little girl as a white lilium and fixed her chin as Shreya and Cris told me ( I'll show you her face in the next step ^_^)


http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BEN_016.jpg

- changed the bigger knight on the left. Now I'm in trouble with the 'chainmail' but I'll fix it tomorrow. Of course ...I've to finish it.. EHHHH


http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BENDetail3.jpg


Sometimes I think WHY I've started this pic. Luckily it has got a lot of elements so I never get bored but....I've to admit that it's mostly a self-control exercise.


As usual, "c&c" are welcome !

Kisses, Serena.

Cris-Palomino
11-08-2006, 11:28 PM
Great expression on that last one...really a remarkable piece, Serena.

Cris

Shadowbrooke
11-08-2006, 11:35 PM
wow great update! The horses look spectacular and the details on Death's armor is great too. Very very nice work :applause:

danielh68
11-09-2006, 01:33 AM
This is really coming along nicely, Serena :) That guy's face is perfect: haunting and evil. Superb work!

CyborgJA
11-09-2006, 10:33 AM
Thank you very much ^_^

Viewing it this morning I've noticed a lot of troubles with lighting. I'm going to fix it !

See you soon,
Serena.

Gisaiagami
11-09-2006, 11:18 AM
wow, very exprtessive
the girl in horse is realistic a lot
love this piece :D

arnocob
11-09-2006, 02:39 PM
A superb work on various parts, I am impatient to see the whole thing!
Good luck.
bye

Blessing
11-14-2006, 06:56 PM
I can't believe I missed this thread. Awesome stuff, Serena! The painting you're working on is really impressive. Those horses in motion are amazing, and I also love the mood of the piece.
Keep going! I'll be watching you, if you don't mind. :)

Regards

Bless

CyborgJA
11-14-2006, 09:48 PM
I really want to thank you all for your words. They are as sweet as honey :)

I'm here with few updates. I apologize for my absence of speed but I'm prepairing a exam and I study a lot of hs each day.

You can find here a low res of the whole pic (900KB). (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BEN_016_2.jpg)
As you can see I've painted some dust near horses fingers, started to paint the second knight and totally polished (I hope that) the trees. In the next step I want to define with some purples all the trees' "silouettes" in the top-left area that now is only a black spot. If you have got any suggestion...please write it cause I've NO ideas :scream:


Ah, I started to paint also Nero's fur. This is a tiny detail of a leg. Of course I'm leaving Bianca and Nero as last step cause I know that it will be very very pleasing for me to paint these 2 subjects.
http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BENDetail4.jpg



The ghost-girl with a quite defined dress and hair plus a white lilium that in my tradition symbolizes heart's purity. Cris, Shreya, have I solved the chin trouble?

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BENDetail5.jpg



The new knight. I've to decide how to paint his helmet. Well...we'll see. As the bigger one he has got visible bones but you know how I'm made : I can't paint without understanding an object volume and shape so yesterday I asked for help to a friend that is a doctor and he gave me a human anatomy's atlas. I'll post in this 3D all my sketches cause skeletons are very "quoted" and I think you'll find them useful.

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/BENDetail6.jpg


Finally, a quick sketch of a cute girl. She's Kimba and her owner is an old friend coming from Modena ( Ferrari's birth-place)


http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/Kimba.jpg



Kisses and tons of quilted-blankets,
Serena. :love:

slickgreekgeo
11-15-2006, 11:43 PM
That's a great great image, the lightning is really impressive. Thanks for posting the close ups.

Blessing
11-17-2006, 02:26 PM
Serena, I'm love with your piece. With Bianca, with those wonderful horses, with that awesome naked woman... And, most of all, with the concept of your painting. I think you're doing it great. You've got all my respect. :applause:

I'll be waiting for updates! :bounce:

Cheers, and congrats a lot! :thumbsup:

Bless :)

Shadowbrooke
11-17-2006, 10:47 PM
Hi Serena,

Just dropping in to say hi :) Nero's fur looks great! I really like the visible brush strokes. Really like the cute eyes on Kimba's sketch too. Keep on rocking! :bounce:

CyborgJA
11-18-2006, 07:19 PM
Good evening !

@George : well if YOU write that, I can be 'in peace' cause you are a GOD with lighting !

@Blessing : thank you very much! Ehy...I can't see any wip thread...come on, create it and post all your works !

@kelandra : thank you dear ! I've obtained this fur using oils - 'variable round' :thumbsup: Yes she has got really human-like eyes ! It's incredible!




Well... I had very busy days, from my university exam, through EICMA (an international exposition of motorbikes from all over the world) to IT assistance in hospital, but today I've got breaking news : this afternoon I had the opportunity to sketch from live with a male model ! The agreement is simple : he wants a quick nude portrait of himself for his office-wall (yes, yes office...do not ask me what he got in his mind, he is a quite crazy architect) and I asked for payment a whole afternoon as my model.
I produced tons of sketches but I really like only 7 of them. These are the horizontal ones:

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/PreviewHorizontals0.jpg

Unfortunately he do not wants to show his face and he didn't permit me to take any photo so I really don't know which level of quality I'll reach :scream:

I hope you like them. I'll post more updates soon,

Serena.

Blessing
11-19-2006, 12:12 AM
Live model! That's so cool! I really like the three sketches, but my favorite is the second one. I love it.

WIP thread? What's that? :rolleyes:

Congrats! Really great sketches!

Cheers! ;)


Bless

PS: I understand now why he wants that painting for his office. He's not showing his face. Coward! :p

slickgreekgeo
11-19-2006, 07:14 AM
Very impressive, you capture values and depth very easily; Great sketches.

Cris-Palomino
11-19-2006, 07:41 AM
These are great, Serena! I especially love the first one. Great to have a captive male for an afternoon. ;) I've heard some can be very docile and are easily reintroduced into the wild when released. :)

Cris

NR43
11-19-2006, 08:57 AM
Hey CyborgJA / Serena

you've some wonderful work at display in this thread and I will be following it from now on with great interest.

Good day

CyborgJA
11-19-2006, 01:15 PM
@Maria Rita : I love the second one too cause I know that I can do good things with lighting, especially on blanket. Ehehe, he told me : "my body is common while my face is not".

@George : well maybe my past of pure B&W helps me a lot with values in a simple pic. With Bianca & Nero I had TONS of troubles.

@Cris : ahahahaha !! http://forum.html.it/forum/images/smilies/rotf.gif The first one is the favourite of my best friend's Lisa too. She already told me that I must paint a tribal tattoo on his shoulder.

@Johan : thank you very much. Critics are welcome !


So...this is the vertical serie. I love first and second one cause I'll be able to paint some "add-on" as example a book and some sheets in the ground for the first one, and an affresco on the wall with an angel that extends his arm from the wall to the man's head for the second one. Of course the third one can be great for a detailed view of his back.

What do you think? I must wait tuesday for his OK.


http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/PreviewVerticals0.jpg



Well today I start my 6-months-marathon-training : I want to be ready for a half-marathon that will take place in may here in my city. Enjoy yourself in this sunday afternoon! :thumbsup:

Kisses,
Serena.

Iridyse
11-19-2006, 02:34 PM
Oh my, these sketches are excellent! I love the second in both the sets, the lighting is lovely! The strokes are wonderfully vibrant and spontaneous too. Very very well done! :D
:applause:

Blessing
11-20-2006, 12:23 AM
The second one, again, is my favorite. And all sketches are brilliant. Here's hoping to know what he says on tuesday!
As Shreya said, I love the brush strokes. Some lessons here, please! :p
Best of luck with your marathon training. We'll be waiting for updates, so don't get too tired. ;)

Cheers!


Bless

slickgreekgeo
11-20-2006, 02:42 AM
Great sketches, I particularly like the green palette ones. Lightning is spot on as well :) Keep them coming!

Shadowbrooke
11-20-2006, 03:54 AM
holy cow!! These life model sketches really show your skills. The lighting is excellent and the rawness of the brushstrokes are great. Hm...do I really have to pick a favorite?!

pap87
11-20-2006, 12:48 PM
Although I'm not a fan of naked guys I gotta admire the technique and the lighting especially.:)

Runecaster
11-20-2006, 01:33 PM
Cris, I totally laughed lout loud at your post! :D


Serena, these are just awesome - the lighting you captured /so/ well and these almost look like charcoal strokes, I really dig the texture. My favorite is the first in the vertical series.

I almost think it would look fantastic printed out /as/ a series in each frame.

CyborgJA
11-24-2006, 09:27 PM
Well, excuse me for being late but I had a busy week.

@all : I noticed that you like the 'stroke' effect. I obtain it with a simple trick under painter : start to define volumes and colors with charcoal or airbrush then use palette knife (20% opacity 100% resat 100% bleed) and paint first edges then fill in a quick way the main color-areas. You'll obtain quite fluid "strokes" plus a good color mix. I find it "time-saving".

@Maria : I've finished my first week of training ! http://forum.html.it/forum/images/smilies/tupitupi.gif

@Brooke: maybe not cause thanks to Renee (woman, you are a genious! http://forum.html.it/forum/images/smilies/030.gif) I've decided to make a whole serie of quick pics.

@Shreya, George : eagle-eyes, I'm ready for your critics ;PencilAnPaperPickedup;

@John : well, I can understand your reasons but don't forget that I'm a woman...sometimes I must paint a man ! http://forum.html.it/forum/images/smilies/stordita.gif

@Renee: as I wrote, you are a genious. I really really reaaaaally want to thank you cause you gave me a great idea. Now I know that I'll do 6 quick pics and I'll print them all http://forum.html.it/forum/images/smilies/cool.gif

Well, back to the piece :he chose for himself the horizontal-number 2 and this is the result after 12 hs of work:

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/show/Nude-Man0.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/Nude-Man0.jpg)

To be honest I've not described him cause he has got a really athletic body while, for this pic, I was searching for an elegant body, an "Ephebic" man that leaves the doubt on his sex. I especially love the quilted blanket. Of course this is MY piumone (italian word that literally means " big feather"): I used it as strong reference for folds' description.

What do you think?


Kisses,
Serena.

LDiehl
11-24-2006, 09:50 PM
I love the feel of the light on the feather blanket. It just seems to have so much volume and depth to it, it adds a lot to the image. Such a beautiful study of light and shadow! :)

Runecaster
11-25-2006, 12:55 AM
That looks amazing! Looks like a photo in shrunken form. Really nice lighting there Serena, beautiful and warm. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Iridyse
11-25-2006, 04:27 AM
Ah, no crits, just love, love and some more :D
Fantastic colours and brilliant drapery there Serena. I stared at the bottom right for a good 10 mins is pure awe.It just couldn't get any better, bravo! :applause:

I have 2 small disregardable suggestions though. The shadow on the left side of the image that seems to be cast by the blanket seems a bit too sharp.It also doesn't seem to be cast by the mass of blanket that is right next to it because of the obvious edge difference (not sure if I am making sense here, hehe). I just think it could be softened a wee bit. Also, how about some reflected light from the blanket onto the guy's back, it would define his form a little bit more.

pap87
11-25-2006, 04:49 AM
well, I can understand your reasons but don't forget that I'm a woman...sometimes I must paint a man ! http://forum.html.it/forum/images/smilies/stordita.gif

I don't object at all, I was just being silly. :D

I agree the update does look like a photo in the thumbnail. The blanket is amazing.

Digitalpaint
11-25-2006, 05:37 AM
Serena, I’m really impressed by your work: especially “Bianca & Nero” :thumbsup:

CyborgJA
11-25-2006, 10:38 AM
Ehi thank you very much for your critics!

Well I agree too : in thumbnails it seems a photo. As I wrote you -I'm not used to hide steps or anything else- I had strong references for this area of the pic. I simply placed my blanket and made tons of photos. Then I started to do something like a selection : "ehi, this piece of blanket can be useful for this area of the pic ---> paint it using mirroring" and again and again till the result you see. I only want to specify that this is not an overpainting cause my DNA imposes to have training and put myself into challenges, but, of course, I need references to see HOW things are made and then try to paint them as I desire. Of course, if you want a 100% bmp cropout, simply ask it, there are no problems by my side ! :thumbsup:

Ehhh...I really hope for myself, to have one day the capability to paint things directly from my mind, in the meantime I'll continue to have practice looking at things like a beginner should do :love:

(Maybe next time I'll require the model for a whole day and not only for an afternoon :twisted: )

@Shreya : you are right! It has got so many strong shadows that I made this error! Good point with light's reflection too! Excuse me if I won't correct this pic. I really want to respect my hours-budget and see what I'm be able to do in 3 pics. It's an experiment that I must have, but be sure that I'll take care of these point in my next 2 pics! Thank you !

@Cre8iv :you are welcome! I planned to finish this 3-pieces serie then I'll restart with Bianca and Nero. You know how much difficoult is to paint heart-connected pics. :scream:

See you soon with the 2nd pic of this serie!

Serena :love:

arnocob
11-25-2006, 11:21 AM
I'm without words...:love:
I'll look for updates. Your work is strong
bye

Blessing
11-25-2006, 04:09 PM
Serena, that work is lovely. I'm speechless. Keep going, I'll be waiting for updates! :bounce:

Congrats for your first week of training! ;)

Cheers!


Bless

Shadowbrooke
11-26-2006, 10:39 PM
wow, such nice lighting and contrast in your work. My works have always looked kinda muted. Can I have a lighting tutorial, please?! (Or, a transfer of neurons will do ha...ha...)

Salubri3i
11-26-2006, 11:38 PM
wonderful work on the recent piece. i think you eventually achieved what you wanted inspite of the model's physical attributes. it is hard to tell if the person lying in the bed is a woman with short hair or a man.

good work. :thumbsup:

CyborgJA
11-27-2006, 11:56 AM
Hi there !
Thank you very much for all your comments !


@Brooke : touch your screen monitor ;BZBZBZBZ; Ok, now you have got all my -few- knowledges about lighting. :buttrock: Seriously, I'm glad you like this kind of spot-light, but I don't feel in the "soul" to create a tutorial. Maybe when I'll be more "skilled".


Well, this is the second piece. I will place it under the ephebic man. The idea is a representation of the same 'man' using 3 kinds of approaches

- top, the woman like
- middle, the Ephebic
- bottom, the man like

Of course, this is an experiment so I want to play with colors and moods and try to "guide" viewer's thoughts along the theme of our sexuality.

I used blanket and pillows as 'links' through the 2 pics (and surely I'll use them also for the third) I hope you'll find a sort of correspondence. :D


So...this is the pic, 7 hs of work:

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/show/Nude-Man1.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/Nude-Man1.jpg)



I must run at uni, see you soon!

Serena.

CyborgJA
11-27-2006, 12:00 PM
Ah, one thing: I really want to thank Rebecca for her thread about human anatomy-torsos. It REALLY helped me a lot for this pic.


I must go :scream:
Kisses !

pap87
11-27-2006, 01:51 PM
No, seriously, if you are not skilled enough in lighting then what about the rest of us?

Just one look at your last post and I rest my case. You display an uncanny ability, only after looking at the right pillow did I realise the thumbnail was not a photo!

I bow to you:bowdown:!

Runecaster
11-27-2006, 04:22 PM
That pillow on the left, the closest one to us, wow, it looks awesome, in zoom or in thumbnail. Overall its quite beautiful and I like the dabbed sort of technique you used, it makes his skin look really soft. :thumbsup:

CyborgJA
11-28-2006, 06:21 PM
@John...believe me...at cgsociety there are REAL lighting gods and I'm not one of them. But of course I'm working to reach a good level :thumbsup:

@Renee : I love it too. As you can see there's a little difference in texturing cause I've used pure charcoal for his skin and it enhances the paper choice, while pillows and blanket - that have been painted with airbrushes- seem to be 'smoothed'.

Well, this evening I'm quite angry. I had a talk with the model and he don't want to see himself in 3 pics where he makes a "sexual change" so I decided to stop my work there.
I'm not in the right soul to paint my "Bianca and Nero" so I made this 2 minute pic as starting sketch. I would like to see where I'm able to arrive painting it this evening.

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/MicioMucca0.jpg

Yes...again a cat...you know...one day I'll adopt a couple of little tigers =^_^=


See you later,
Serena.

Blessing
11-28-2006, 09:42 PM
No, seriously, if you are not skilled enough in lighting then what about the rest of us?

Just one look at your last post and I rest my case. You display an uncanny ability, only after looking at the right pillow did I realise the thumbnail was not a photo!

I bow to you:bowdown:!


Agree!! Your work is amazing, the way you treated everything in the painting (lightning, anatomy, folds) is just awesome. I vote for a tut from you! :bounce:

I'm really sorry about your talking to the model. But don't let things like that make you feel bad. You're a wonderful artist, he's loosing a big chance. I wish somebody like you paint portraits of me... if I was pretty... :p

Congrats a lot for your work! Keep going! Here's hoping you to feel better and waiting for updates. ;)

Oh, and that little cat, is so cute! :D

Cheers, bella!!


Bless ;)

pap87
11-29-2006, 08:36 AM
at cgsociety there are REAL lighting gods and I'm not one of them. But of course I'm working to reach a good level

Trust me, you're up there.;)

Sucks about your model though. So that's it then?

I look forward to seeing progress on Bianca and Nero.

Shadowbrooke
11-29-2006, 08:21 PM
Hi Serena,

I'm sorry about your model...I wouldn't turn down good art like yours. Oh well, his lost. :( I hope you'll feel better. I personally like your sketches very very much and hope to see more works soon!

I don't have cats yet...still living in this strict apt complex. But when I do live in a house I'd rush to the shelter and adopt kittens! Do you have a favorite type of cat? Colors...etc?

And please don't say that you're not skilled. It makes me depressed since I'm nowhere as good as you...

(you want some tickles to make you laugh?!? :D)

Brooke.

Iridyse
11-30-2006, 10:49 AM
I can't see the latest image :(:( I've tried at home and at work!

edit: I mean the figure everyone is talking about. The cat is cute!

CyborgJA
12-04-2006, 08:16 PM
@Maria, John : thank you very much for your words! Yes John, I won't paint the 3rd pic but doesn't matter, I can work on Bianca and Nero or another pic ^_^

@Brooke: I never feel sad. Maybe angry but never sad. And when I'm angry I find the right energy to paint more and more, so please, don't worry !:love:
Mmm I love all cats from the ones with pedigrees to the street-ones. I admire the beuty of Birmans especially for their blue eyes.

@Shreya : I had a talk with my provider. He told me that maybe there was a bad replication of dns-addresses in your country. I really apologize for the troubles you had :sad:

Well, in these days I had a lot of free time but divided into thousands of "little-breaks" so I never had the heart to paint. Only this evening I found 2 hs to start my "MicioMucca" (PussycatCow) pic and this is the result :

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/MM_001.jpg


I've not fixed all lights and shadows and it needs a lot of work (as example I've to project tail's shadow on the cow). I started the cat with opened-eyes but I deleted them and I think I'll turn back to the first idea...plus...I've to paint all the fur...but don't worry, I'll finish it soon cause I relax myself using this cartoonish-style. It's like coming back to my roots :)

My objectives for this pic are :
- play with complementary colors maintaining harmony
- start to use double source for lighting
- describe fluffy and cute subjects



As usual critics are welcome!

See you soon,
Serena :love:

Runecaster
12-04-2006, 09:37 PM
Gah this is so cute :D The Pink and Orange work so well together I think because of all those beautiful grays everywhere. Lovely lovely lovely! Can't wait to see this one finished :D

Salubri3i
12-04-2006, 11:38 PM
awww... that's cute. love the colors too. :applause:

Gisaiagami
12-05-2006, 09:17 AM
love the cat
and cow wowwwwwwwwwwwwwww
So cutie :D :D :D

Shadowbrooke
12-06-2006, 06:14 AM
Hi Serena,

I'm glad you're back and painting! Really like the pink in the new sketch, looks sooo cute. :) There are about five or six wild cats where I live but every time I tried to pet them they ran away :sad: Hope you will have cute kitty soon, and paint more stuff!! :bounce:

frostblade
12-06-2006, 08:28 AM
This cute painting is coming along very well, the only thing that bothers me is the white border, it seems harsh.

pap87
12-06-2006, 11:35 AM
Heh, they both look adorable.
For some reason the cow reminds me of Toy Story.
Well I gotta say, this is quite a change from dark forests with evil knights!
I'm liking it.:thumbsup:

slickgreekgeo
12-06-2006, 06:57 PM
I agree, it's definitely different; It looks like you're having a lot of fun with these, and it shows; Keep it up, they look great.

aldog
12-07-2006, 06:35 PM
That fuzzy cat is adorable.
I think that the cat's left hand should be on top of the cow.

CyborgJA
12-10-2006, 03:52 PM
@Renee: I'm really happy you liked this color choice. You got a great eye for color's harmony.

@Ryan : yeeeesss I was searching for a fluffy and tender image

@Gislaine : this cow is my official avatar under MSN- messenger. I always use cows-animoticon there :D This is the reason why I painted a cow.

@Brooke : try with food corruption. I think they'll surely stick themselves to your legs

@Linda : I agree with the white border but it has got a specific cause : I planned to print this image as xmas-gift for 4 cat-lovers and I painted it with the size of 30 x 40 cm. As you know, the greatest way to show pictures is to isolate them from the wall with a white or gray or black stripe all around, so I decided to use the roughness of paper-texture to simulate a real charcoal work. Now I only have to wait the printed-prototype.

@John: absolutely...but Bianca and Nero is a heavy piece. I must paint it when I'm in the right mood...

@George : yesssssss...I think I really have color-therapy when I paint O_O


@Alan : :cryyyy: next time I'll do it better, I promise


Well, this is the pic after 3 hs of work (388KB) :

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/show/MicioMucca.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/MicioMucca.jpg)


And click here for steps (403KB) (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/steps/MicioMucca.jpg)


See you soon,
Serena :love:

CyborgJA
12-10-2006, 06:59 PM
And another news : this evening I was polishing some sketches I did in these 4 days in Milan, looking at people making shopping while...I had the idea for the annual xmas-card picture.

The idea is a hot nacked woman (or with a red gauze all around her breast) in a snow-scene, and the classic sentence "merry xmas and happy new year" will appear as 'steam' produced by her finger.


http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/N06_001.jpg


See you soon,
Serena.

aumortis
12-10-2006, 11:00 PM
Hello!

Awww, your previous drawing is sooo cute ^________^
I really like it! [too bad it's too small to look good on full screen on my display]

About your last sketch - I really like the idea but I think that there's something wrong with her back. I think that er.. "upper part" should be moved a bit to the right but it's just my thought.

slickgreekgeo
12-10-2006, 11:36 PM
"The idea is a hot nacked woman..."


I like it already.

NR43
12-11-2006, 06:02 AM
Nice idea for a Xmas card.

her pose seems a bit stiff though.
maybe twist her torso 5 or 10degrees and shift the legs accordingly...
anyway, might as well play a bit with a couple of variations of the pose

CyborgJA
12-11-2006, 07:14 AM
@Stanislaw : it's only a starting sketch and for the moment I'll use these guidelines for her breast while...I agree...her bottom should be more interesting ...maybe more shifted to the top cause of the viewing angle. Come back soon cause I'll apply main colors-areas and I need you comments (^_^)/

@George : dehehehe !


@Johan : you are absolutely right it will be a more interesting pose. I'll try to do my best! I think that the down to top view is already a challenge and a not-so-common pèoint of view.

Well...what can I say? I'll have my breakfast and then ....work !


See you soon,
Serena. :love:

Shadowbrooke
12-12-2006, 09:37 AM
Hi Serena :)

Love your kitty's sketches...they're adorable!

I know that you're already working on some new poses for the X-mas card to I will keep my lips sealed until I see the revised version. ;) I like the concept a lot...so hope to see how it develops.

Brooke.

Gisaiagami
12-12-2006, 09:47 AM
great sketch
wainting the painting

Blessing
12-12-2006, 11:07 AM
Awwwwwwww! Your miccio is lovely! :love: The little cow on his arms is the cutest thing I ever saw! ^^

Great concept for your Christmas Card! Can't wait to see updates!

Cheers, bellíssima!!

Bless ;)

CyborgJA
12-12-2006, 12:10 PM
News news news news news !

First of all I want to apoligize for the pose : I painted 5 variations of it and no way...I had in my mind this idea and this one I had to paint.

So...this is the result after 11 hs of painting :


http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/N06_003.jpg


As you can see I focused myself on head and body's proportions. Hair, feet, hands...anything else is still at a medium-level.

And I though about you...so I did this table of reference. I think I'll always provide it from now so you'll be able to give me haaardddddddd critics, ok? :love:

http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/N06_references.jpg



So...shoot ! :bounce:


See you soon,
Serena :wearingShoesForTheMarathonTraining: :thumbsup:

CyborgJA
12-12-2006, 12:16 PM
Ah...2 things :

1. if you have got any idea for her hair please tell me cause I've got a lot of layers with different haircut and no one works for me. The one you see is the result of 5 different layers :scream:

2. I need help with her belly, especially to define fat-volumes :scream: So write down allll you think about it please :love:


I must run now,
kisses !

Squibbit
12-12-2006, 01:13 PM
so... how did you become a cyborg?


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slickgreekgeo
12-13-2006, 12:57 AM
Looking great, you can't go wrong with using Natalie Portman as reference :) One critique; Her hands appear a bit large at this point. Keep it up, turning out great.

frostblade
12-13-2006, 01:17 AM
I think the figure looks a bit dark in the the snow.

It's going great :)

Blessing
12-13-2006, 03:35 AM
Just two words: You rock! :bounce:

Shadowbrooke
12-13-2006, 08:41 AM
wow...great update! The face looks great! (and please please don't hate me...) I think her torso is a bit thick somehow.. But that's all I could see so far.

Beautiful model ;)

CyborgJA
12-13-2006, 10:46 AM
GoodMorning !
Yesterday evening I went to a wedding so I slept since now. I can't drink alcholic : only 1 glass and I'm KO!

@Panu: what do you mean? Why have I got this nick? It comes from my university. My mates are used to call me in this way cause they always tell that I'm "too professional" in my approach during my "working hours". I do not think it's the truth but of course, I like this nick :)

@George : "large" as 'scale' or large as fat or do they have too long fingers? :P I love Natalie Portman too !

@Linda : yes yes yes. I agree, at this moment is too dark for my taste too. Now I think I should first set up a right background with right colors too and then, if I'll dislike her skintone like now I think I'll send a pray to saint photoshop

@Brooke : well the idea is to reproduce a "pin up" with soooooftttt curves. See as example her legs. Of course, I can scale it too but first I need to paint a good background in order to better 'view' it


@MariaRita : thank you ! When will I see your WIP thread???


See you soon,
Serena :)

Salubri3i
12-14-2006, 12:29 AM
i think you did a great job capturing Natalie's likeness. ;)

CyborgJA
12-14-2006, 06:08 AM
i think you did a great job capturing Natalie's likeness. ;)


Thank you very much ! I'm blending a little her cheekbones as you told me, to better connect her face to her "fleshy" appeal :applause:

Squibbit
12-14-2006, 08:34 AM
@Panu: what do you mean? Why have I got this nick? It comes from my university. My mates are used to call me in this way cause they always tell that I'm "too professional" in my approach during my "working hours". I do not think it's the truth but of course, I like this nick :)


oh i thought u was a real cyborg

is nice nick tho
.

pap87
12-14-2006, 11:08 AM
I could have sworn you were drawing Monica Belucci.

Very nice progress so far. Major problem is the lighting but that's been adressed already.

Poor girl, gonna freeze in the snow! Hehe. Till the next update:thumbsup:

CyborgJA
12-20-2006, 08:55 AM
Thank you all !

I'm having very busy days so I'm proceeding so slow....
I must finish this pic today !

Click here for a 1250 px preview (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/itchings/N06_011.jpg)

Still have to paint pines, hair, nails, steam and cover her belly cause I dislike it and I do not have time to paint it properly....

Corrected light and changed background's colorscheme (hope you like it).


Well, I come back to painter....

See you soon,
Serena :love:

Blessing
12-21-2006, 01:47 PM
Well, I already told you what I think about this work. It rocks!! :D

Can't wait to see the final piece!! :bounce:

Congrats for your amazing work, Serena. You're an amazing artist, full of skills. Keep on going, bella!:applause:

Cheers!!


Bless :)

wasker
12-21-2006, 09:14 PM
Good job, photorealistic characters :) The latest look abit too hot-skinned to be sitting in snow, the ambient light would probably make her colours a notch cooler (as in colder not cooler as in :cool: ).
Do you use photo refs for these? It's great nonetheless!

CyborgJA
12-26-2006, 09:04 AM
@MariasRita : thank you very much, you are so sweet !
@Oscar : yes, you can see all the references I used in the following TABLE OF REFERENCES. (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/steps/Auguri06.jpg)



http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/show/Auguri06.jpg (http://aureamediocritas.com/images/am/gallery/Auguri06.jpg)

Unfortunately I had no time to finish the steam :shrug:


Happy new year to all :buttrock:

Serena.

CyborgJA
12-26-2006, 09:12 AM
I forgot : as usual, if you want high res or 1:1 bmp details, simply ask :thumbsup:
I do not post them for 'default' cause I've got a low bandwidth/month for my website :P


Again...enjoy in these days !

Serena.