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pisano
05-03-2006, 12:09 AM
i've been a member for a couple of months and found Cgtalk very helpfull in particular how each member is ready to offer his own thoughts but i always feel as if I have never really used it to its full potential, so many threads so little time.



So back on topic, Last Fall i discovered my enhtusiasm for CG which led me to rediscover art, for some reason my enthusiasm round art layed quite dormat, can't remmeber ever sitting down and just drawing, besides as a young child, i don;t remember ever doing it. BTW, i was one of those wierd kids that told stories about the giant squids that crept right besides my grandmas beachouse and who drew skeletons and worms killing off each others while the rest where drawing flowers, lol. Don;t worry i;m also a bit normal. :)



So in the spirit of rejuvinatiion i took a weekly saturday art class, and proceeded from their.



Now i've discovered this amazing thread where i can share my sketches and await critique so we can all improve together. I'm also a big fan of DOCTOR BONE (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=290076&highlight=doctor+bone)although i have lagged away and lost track of the thread lately ;{ , i'l be sure to look it up again now that my life seems more on control.



So to introduce myself i shall post today's sketch , which happens to be a sort of self portrait.

I've got a bunch of other pencil sketches, from portraits to gesture, i'l post them later, for now: heres me...Aidan with a new look, just shaved my head, aahh feeels so liberating:
http://tk.files.storage.msn.com/x1pM0jCSUoiRhC23XTzxndW6mpb1FD2AnkCu3zBaP7O2ClccaKl4yihQ3veC7z0RWJePQ5DpaaT7EhU4pdTSjub089ojZWQLsxIHJ0Z-vsh0bmRds_GDjgpAlol7gTzghJ8qZPhBzLY8UM


I await your thoughts...

BTW IF simon is here/99sproth, i will crash on my Zbrush later this week now that my computer seems in a working order, the bastard always pops something up at crucial moments.
just to clarify : bastrd = computer, NOT Simon

pisano
05-03-2006, 12:49 AM
here is my own personal critique:

The forhead looks flat,
The nose tip is no where to be seen
The slit i have on th tip seems to have taken over my whoe nose,
and also, to dark of a shadow,
Improvements: finally got a pair of lips just right yeyy.

Rebeccak
05-03-2006, 01:27 AM
Hi there Aidan,

Welcome aboard. :) Nice to hear you are able and interested in devoting some time to some Anatomy Study ~ I think other aspects of your artistic growth will benefit as a result.

I think this (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=3506569&postcount=3) post might also apply to you ~ regarding doing focused studies on individual facial features.

What I like about your portrait is the nose and the shading that obscures half of the face. Actually, I think if you cover the bottom portion of the face, beneath the nose, the portrait becomes stronger. The lips seem a bit flatter than the nose / eyes ~ perhaps shading them a bit more would help. :)

I've recently dug up some of my super old drawings from high school, as there are several folks in high school on the forums, a few of which have asked to see my older work.

Here is an example of a shading technique you might try, which may allow you to shade more precisely ~ by the way, these are so old it's embarrassing, but if they help to illustrate a point, what the hey: ;)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20aceofamity/Chicken-Claw_CU_small.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20aceofamity/Chicken-Claw_CU_small-2.jpg


I describe the shading technique here:

TUTORIAL - Shading Techniques (Various Media) - by Rebeccak (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=273928)

I think doing these kind of renderings, where you use the point of a very sharp soft pencil, really helps to refine how you observe and see things.

Incidentally, there is a Sticky Thread at the top of this forum where you can find links to Doctor Bone's work, as well as to the work of another excellent artist, Thomasphoenix:

Unofficial Moderators, DoctorBone and Thomasphoenix (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=352462)

Looking forward to seeing more of your work! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Simon
05-03-2006, 07:50 AM
BTW IF simon is here/99sproth, i will crash on my Zbrush later this week now that my computer seems in a working order, the bastard always pops something up at crucial moments.
just to clarify : bastrd = computer, NOT Simon



LOL!

Yeah I'd happily give you some help. :)

Nice one on starting an anatomy thread!

pisano
05-15-2006, 11:30 PM
thankz for all the info, done some of those execs some time ago, i'l be sure to proceed with the trickier organic ones for sure looking ones for sure: here is the initial one" find someting round the house" exercise = waxed pear:
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i168/celeste_malta/shadeexecres.jpg

Rebeccak
05-17-2006, 12:33 AM
aceofamity,

I think the main problem with your image is that the axes of the basic features of the face ~ eyes, nose, lips, chin, ears ~ need to align parallel to one another. Additionally, these features need to align along a central axis, as shown here:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20aceofamity/aceofamity_Review-01.gif

Her left eye is too far away from her nose ~ generally speaking, eyes are approximately one eye width apart. Also, always draw the underlying skull before adding the hair ~ one of the biggest mistakes people make is to flatten the head / not give enough mass to the top of the head. Eyes actually fall in the middle of the face, and not in the upper third as many people tend to draw them.


Hope this helps! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

pisano
05-17-2006, 04:01 AM
thanks for your info, really does put things in perspetive, i;'l give it another go and see how it turns out, this time i 'l tryoto keep according to co-orfinated rather then tring to gauge things. I personally always felt a weakness in gauging the width of faces, any ideas on that topic, height i think i can manage but width space might proove diffivult. Or maybe its all about gaining some milage with whatver it is i'm tryin to sketch.

Rebeccak
05-17-2006, 03:59 PM
aceofamity,

The main thing I suggest is to pick up one or more books on Anatomy ~ copying from books does wonders, and doing Anatomical Studies one of the best ways to improve along with Life Drawing, Master Copies, and Drawing from other Reference.

I recommend Burne Hogarth's books, some of which are listed in the link below along with other great books, such as Artistic Anatomy by Paul Richer.

Anatomy Resources : BOOKS (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=257424)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=257424

If you get the chance, check out this thread for Master Copy Resources:

Master Copy Resources (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=354836)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=354836

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

pisano
05-21-2006, 12:54 AM
I'l defienatly lookover those anatomy books, really looking froward to giving it a go again, and i did. Inspired from Roberto Otiz mini challange "Micehlangelo's David" i decided to give it a go, but less 3d more paper and pencil :
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i168/celeste_malta/cgtalk.jpg

I started out by applying doctor bone's technique to study the reference photo, at first i was just going to create a siloutte sort of but then i thought yourve reached this point, why not give it a quick shade.And their it is , My David.

A digi pic rater than a scan:
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i168/celeste_malta/pic.jpg

pisano
05-21-2006, 01:08 AM
My own personal critique:
pay more attention to co-ordination, such as the skewed chest youv'e implanted.
Abs need a bit of a bounce, apply eraser for highlights

more to come...

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the chest area is a bit of a disaster...
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crap forgot his pubes...:shrug:

Rebeccak
05-21-2006, 03:26 AM
aceofamity,

It's good to see your new study ~ copying from Michelangelo is one of the best ways to learn how to draw, imo. :)

I did a bit of a paintover ~ hope this helps:


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20aceofamity/aceofamity_Review-02.gif

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

pisano
08-29-2006, 05:12 PM
Thanks for all the crits and time pent in overlaying those images for me Rebecca, I apologize for not updating the thread, I feel I missed out and wasn;t as respectful to your time and to cgtalk. The longer I put it off, the longer it took for me to take any snapshots of recent work. I apologize. Now that it;I've spent the last couple of days trigger happy over some recent work I will post it and hopefully start over. Thank fully i managed to capture alot of work , till the digi cam fel of this busget tripod i have and now its stuck, but since i managed to capture waht i eaned its ok for now.

pisano
08-29-2006, 05:13 PM
Thanks for all the crits and time pent in overlaying those images for me Rebecca, I apologize for not updating the thread, I feel I missed out and wasn;t as respectful to your time and to cgtalk. The longer I put it off, the longer it took for me to take any snapshots of recent work. I apologize. Now that it;I've spent the last couple of days trigger happy over some recent work I will post it and hopefully start over. Thank fully i managed to capture alot of work , till the digi cam fel of this busget tripod i have and now its stuck, but since i managed to capture waht i wanted, its ok for now.

pisano
08-29-2006, 05:38 PM
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8025/tmp8230as7.jpg


This is a remake of how my summer ended, at the Inter Airport of Malta saying bye to a new person in our life, our Californian cousin Ian (hugging my younger brother). I recreated the moment by browsing through a months worth of photographs and blending the memory together.
As for composition I applied the rule of the thirds, whereby the main subjects' eyes should meet up with the focus points as proposed by the concept. I initial started drafting it with a normal HB Lead pencil I then moved over to an A3 sketchpad and along with new drafting lines I applied a light shade of Pitt oil based pencil, then finally going over the focus points again (eyes , mouth and lips) with a darker more defined lead.

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