Open Figure Drawing Workshop - Rembrandt Master Copy - with Rebeccak 016

[billcunningham]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_cunningham/sets/72057594115532298/show/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_cunningham/sets/72057594115532298/show/)(To view o slideshow of progress to date, click here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_cunningham/sets/72057594115532298/show/)!)

Hello,

I'm starting this thread to do a fairly detailed Work In Progress step-by-step of the work I'll be doing on the new Rembrandt challenge. I didn't want to clutter up the main thread with lots of intermediate steps, so I'll post those here, but I'll still update in the main thread when I hit good milestones.

So, here's what's up:

I'll be working in Corel Painter. I started by opening a copy of the original reference, and creating a blank canvas of the same size:

http://static.flickr.com/45/134010538_b01f21b39c_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_cunningham/134010538/)


Next, I filled in the canvas layer with a neutral tone, then created a new layer and named it "Charcoal Sketch". Using the Soft Charcoal brush set to a darker value of the background tone, and eyeballing the original off to the side, I roughly sketched in major masses:

http://static.flickr.com/51/134010539_513c4ca3bd_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_cunningham/134010539/)


Next, I created a third layer and called it "Color Roughs", and on this layer, using a bristly oil brush, I blocked in general colors. I eyeballed these colors, using the mixing palette in Painter to blend them more like actual paint. I didn't want to just eyedrop sample the original picture, because that felt too much like cheating!:

http://static.flickr.com/45/134010540_ded410f9d1_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_cunningham/134010540/)


You can see I got all the colors a bit too bright, so next I used the adjust brightness/contrast control to lower the brightness until it looked closer to the original:

http://static.flickr.com/54/134010541_4543149f2a_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_cunningham/134010541/)

And that's where I stand tonight. I'll post again after the next time i work on it.

Yoiur comments, if you feel so inclined, are most welcome!

Thanks! -Bill

[billcunningham]

Am I the first one to throw his hat into this challenge? Woo hoo!

I've been peeking in at the Bouguereau and Carravaggio challenges and feeling so JEALOUS as I didn't have time to participate, but I'm doing this one, dammit!

I started another thread to post lots of WIP screenshots (I didn't want to clutter up this thread with anything less than milestone pics), here's a link to my first night's work:

WIP - Rembrandt Copy (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3482407#post3482407)

I'm not at a point I want to post a full milestone shot yet, but you can see where I'm at thru that link. Hopefully I'll be far enough along to post a real shot by Wednesday.

Good luck everyone (And THANKS! Rebecca for keeping these challenges coming!)

[SaraD]

I´m gonna try to participate in this one:) Too long since I hade the time to paint and hang out with you guys:)

[Elliepower]

Hi all,

@saraD and billcunningham
Great to see you here, hope we enjoy this together. Not only as a challenge but to learn from each other.

I love this, but my... hehe (pssst, the word with p)... starting fast and failed much faster. So I decide to do parts of some originals, if this is allowed, because a whole piece is too much for me.

This sketch done in 1 hour, trying out some brushes, nearly 1:1 size

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test36.jpg

[billcunningham]

Ok, I couldn't sleep, I've got a headache, so I did a little more work on this:

On a new layer, named "detailed drawing", using a color that stands out, and the soft charcoal brush, I start drawing over the color roughs a more detailed sketch. I'm not tracing the original, I'm eyeballing it on my copy with the original open to the left. You can see hash and guide marks around the drawing. I try to hash in a mark at the top and bottom, left and right of the face, then throw in cross lines to mark the nose, eye and mouth positions, then start drawing around those to get the shapes in general correct proportion:

http://static.flickr.com/48/134069165_cb563361b1_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_cunningham/134069165/)


Continuing to also fill in the neck ruff... this is difficult and a little tedious. If you're not tracing something like this, the best way I know to do it is try to keep in sight the shapes the negative space between the complex, mazy lines make, and keep looking back and forth to make sure things are staying genetally in proportion. That's what I've done here:

http://static.flickr.com/55/134069166_ade10199f1_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_cunningham/134069166/)

Now I thre in another layer, called "Neutral", and filled it with a flat neutral shade so I can move it between my color roughs and the detailed drawing to isolare the lines and see what they look like:

http://static.flickr.com/55/134069167_c75ebfa316_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_cunningham/134069167/)


Now, keeping an eye jumping between the original and my rough copy, trying to make the line drawing closer to exact as far as position an proportion goes to the original, I draw in the rest of the picture (you can see my color roughs have the hands fairly badly misplaced... I'll try to correct that now with the drawing):

http://static.flickr.com/56/134069168_f831fe88cf_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_cunningham/134069168/)


And here it is against the neutral layer:

http://static.flickr.com/44/134069169_ef484c121f_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_cunningham/134069169/)

And that's it for tonight... really!

Here's a link to a slide show of this Work-in-Progress (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_cunningham/sets/72057594115532298/show/)!

As always, any comments are most welcome! -Bill

[Rebeccak]

billcunningham,

Hey there, great to see you in this! :cool: You know, the kind of work you are doing here (WIP) is exactly the kind of thing I like to see on the OFDW threads ~ you are more than welcome to post WIP there.

It's up to you, but I would actually prefer it if you posted your WIP there. I am happy to merge your thread into the OFDW thread, but I won't if that is not what you prefer. :)

Great start! I can't wait to see this develop! :thumbsup:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Rebeccak]

billcunningham,

You're more than welcome to post WIP here! :) I don't actually think of the OFDWs as challenges, but it's fine to think of them that way :) ~ really it's more of a workshop where artists help and support one another. But there's an element of challenge, I suppose, to it as well. :)

SaraD,
We really miss you! Come back! Hoping you can find time for this one! :bounce:

Elliepower,

Wow, fantastic start! It's no problem doing a portion, it's probably what I'll do myself for this one. :D The eyes are really very expressive...

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Iridyse]

Yay!
This will be such good practice for my Portraiture final exam (which started today and will go on for 6 more days, bleh). I was feeling so terrible about missing the Bouguereau, there's no way I'd miss this one!
*gets started*

[Rebeccak]

hiiri,

Great to see another person on board! What great timing with your Portraiture exam! :) I really look forward to seeing your work here. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Iridyse]

I said I would start right away and I did!
Here's the colour rough. Just trying to get the colours in place.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/hiiri/rem1.jpg

I feel like painting all 4! Maybe I will..hehehe.

[Rebeccak]

Hey, go for all 4! Why not? :) There are 4 weeks in the Workshop, so that would be one week each. If you have enough time, this might be doable ~ though I would go for quality and maybe recommend two weeks for two portraits. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[billcunningham]

Hey Rebecca,

I don't mind at all having this thread merged with the OFDW. I only started it separately because I wasn't sure posting this many WIP screenshots was acceptable.

If there is some administrator magic you can do to merge the threads, please feel free to do it. Otherwise, I'll just copy all these posts over to the OFDW myself after work tonight, and post updates there from now on.

Thanks!

[zhuzhu]

hiiri: wow~! what a nice start~~~!!!

my quick start in Photoshop 7 with custom Bristle brush.


http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/517/770wip13ho.jpg

[ceresz]

Damn, I have to join this time :D

zhuzhu : I hope you will continue this one ;) :D

[aggie93]

... to join this one after sitting on the sidelines for the last one. Not sure which one I will do, possibly Titus or Jeremiah. I am thinking charcoal right now for the medium. This will be FUN!

[Rebeccak]

Wow, zhu, this is perfectly suited for you! :D Great start! :thumbsup:

ceresz,

Come on! We know you can do it! :)

aggie93,

This would be a great one to try in oil! :D

Cheers, :)

~Rk

[aggie93]

aggie93,

This would be a great one to try in oil! :D

Cheers, :)

~Rk

You know you are right. Very dark though, I am afraid I would make a black blob. It would also take a long time to finish, letting it dry and stuff. Have you ever painted on anything other than canvas? I am thinking of trying to do oils on wood.

[Iridyse]

Wonderful strokes Zhu! I want to try that brush!

Here's the next stage. I worked a little on the face, fixed the crappy hand and did some general adjustments. I'm going to tear myself away from the 'puter now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/hiiri/rem2.jpg

Please ask me to stop if I start flooding this forum with my images :D

Argh, I keep getting an invalid thread error.

[Rebeccak]

billcunningham,

Ok, I have merged the two threads, and now your posts exist in chronological order (as to when they were posted relative to other posts in this thread) so that is why they are a little spaced.

Thanks for allowing me to do that!

I don't mind WIP at all ~ in fact, I highly encourage it! This Workshop is all about seeing the process and helping each other out ~ it's really useful for everyone to see the WIP.

hiiri,

When are you getting the error, and what exactly is it?

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Iridyse]

It's been happening for a while now, when I try to reply to a thread. I usually go back and try a few times (and it works) or just give up and decide my comment was worthless anyway :D

Edit: It happened again, it says "Invalid Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the webmaster".

[DigitalSol]

SaraD.
Hello, Good luck on this.

:surprised:Elliepower.
Wow, impressive work, really, im impress u are fast as light.:applause:

hiiri.
Amazing Work, Good Luck

Zhuzhu.
Great as always.

aggie93,
Good to see you are here for this.

ceresz.
Hope u join.

Rebecca.
Hello Becca, im here for the workshop again, wow, is rembrandt. :)

[Zephyri]

I was mighty peeved to not have had the time to partake in the carravaggio copies (something I will do of my own accord in oils at some point in the future for my own benefit) but when this showed up I thought I'm just going to have to make time! I saw more than one Rembrandt in real life in amsterdam a couple of years back, and they were magnificent to behold, in the felsh, to see how much paint he managed to get onto the canvas, the way he created texture with it. It really becomes apparent in RL how he builds his colour up to light too... so thats what I'm doing here. Started with a very very dark red-brown background as I find black too lifeless. And this is a great challenge to get to grips with some of the textures in PS too. And even so little time in there is some quality work! Zhu, amazing as usual, instantly recognisable, even with those few strokes, and it's your work thats convinced me to let go more with this piece. Hiiri, a fantatsic start there, i really love the colour variation in his hands. Aggie If you do go with oils, try starting with black and working up to the highlights, then you won't! Also, try mixing it with a faster drying medium... I can't recall what it is that I use, but it's workable on within about 24hours and dries with a lovely glossy sheen.

And here's my start, working mostly with PS's natural brushes a couple of self made brushes and some brushes downloaded from here: http://www.cybia.co.uk/brushes/. About two hours work so far. Also... does anyone know if there's any higher res versions or detail shots of this anywhere?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/rembrandt-copy.jpg

[zhuzhu]

Rebeccak:thanks~!


ceresz:of course i will finish it.

hiiri: great update~! check these 2 image links and get the bristle brush,enjoy~~~:)

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1108/bristle4jb.jpg

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/845/definebrush1lc.gif


Zephyri: dammmmmmmmmmmmmm~! that was amazing~! i can't believe it that you did such as a good job ~~~!!! :thumbsup:


face update before go to bed. i know still has some bug there, but i am too tired to sleeping, see you tomorrow...:wavey:

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/70/770wip20pf.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Originally posted by hiiri: It's been happening for a while now, when I try to reply to a thread. I usually go back and try a few times (and it works) or just give up and decide my comment was worthless anyway :D

Edit: It happened again, it says "Invalid Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the webmaster".
Hmm, strange! I don't know what the answer is, but I recommend posting a thread here:

CGTalk Support Forum (http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=79)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=79

Bear in mind that the webmaster is in a different timezone (Australia) but if you post a thread and subscribe to it, you are likely to get an answer. :)

Sometimes I have problems with my preferred browser, Firefox, and have to switch to IE temporarily to post replies. I don't know why this is, but Firefox usually works 95% of the time. :)

Enrique,
Fantastic to see you back, and I can't wait to see what you produce! :bounce:There are no jerks this side of the Forum, so no worries. ;)

Zephyri,

Wow, great start!!! This is going to be a great Workshop! :thumbsup:

zhuzhu,

WOW! You'll probably do all 4 of these in a week! :D

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Iridyse]

Zephyri, that's just GORGEOUS! I'm stunned. Great work, can't wait to see the rest of the stages.
zhuzhu: I like how it is turning out. Heads are fun to paint! I'll have a look at your thread, thanks!
Rebaccak: I'll do that if this continues. I'm using Firefox too, I guess that's what's causing problems. Thanks though.

[DigitalSol]

Thanks Becca, this is my lineart, the first step, I did this in a sketch book, then I scanned it, and after I cleaned up in PS.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Rembrandt%20Master%20Copy/lineart.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Looks like the start of another great painting Enrique! :)

EDIT: Zephyri, I don't know of another source for a larger version unfortunately ~ but actually I think if you click on the version that is in the artrenewal link, it might take you to a higher res version. :)

Cheers,

~Rk

[DigitalSol]

Rebecca.
Thanks a lot, I will do my best, but will be hard, people in this OFDW, is very talented.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Rembrandt%20Master%20Copy/sketch.jpg

[Rebeccak]

So much the better! ;)

Can't wait to see what everyone does!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Iridyse]

Looking good DigitalSol !
I think I have to adjust my monitor, I can barely see what he's holding (in the original). Hmpf.

Here's the last update for today(today here anyway), a little work on the face. Doesn't look like him yet, the expression eludes me. Tomorrow! *heads to bed*

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/hiiri/rem3head.jpg

[DigitalSol]

Amazing work there u have hiiri, really awesome. *hats off*

[audit]

:D Hi guys. I just got my life back and i'm hoping to take part in this workshop. I must say, these are already some of the most wonderful WIPs I've ever seen!

Zhu, hiiri, Zephyri, DigitalSol -- hats off to you for producing such quality so quickly. Can't wait to see how it all progresses...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/86audit19/cgforums/Figures/Rem.jpg

The first effort, about 1.5 hr. I tried to get the whole image and restrain myself from zooming in (too much)! The face is so hard to capture....i'll keep trying...

-audit

[Rebeccak]

audit! Great to see you back. :D Lovely start! Really looks like this will be an outstanding OFDW. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[DigitalSol]

Hello everyone, great work, I mean all, this OFDW is outstanding.

Audit.
Amazing Update, that is a beautiful paint.

This is a little update, I have lots of work over here, hope u like it, all critics are welcome.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Rembrandt%20Master%20Copy/sketch2.jpg

Thanks

[Aedilhum]

Hey all,
I'm new here looks like a fun thread/workshop with a lot of nice work!

Here's my progress so far.

Photoshop CS, I started out using the oil brush on the background and then switched to the large charcoal smear on the face.

http://jsimeth.com/gallery1/albums/digital/rembrant_post001lr.jpg

[DigitalSol]

Aedilhum.

Great progress so far!, I like it so much, I like the texture, I almost can touch it, great work

[Rebeccak]

Enrique,

Progressing fast! Looking great so far, will wait to crit til it's further along. :)

Aedilhum,

Welcome aboard! Always nice to see a new person join in. :) Your piece is looking great so far! Looking forward to your next steps.

Great work on your website as well! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[RedSquirrel]

Well its the first time posting at OFDW and seeing that it was Rembrandt, I just couldnt resist.

http://www.solo2design.com/Imageweb/painting01.jpg


I'm amazed at everyones work so far. :bounce:

[Rebeccak]

RedSquirrel,

Welcome aboard! The face in your study is looking great! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[pierceda]

With Rembrandt involved, I figure I have to give this a shot. In one day people have made so much progress already!

Aedilhum, you've made some beautiful texture with the face! It has the feel of real oils.

Here's my first step, a base sketch:

http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/3701/20060424rembrandtmastercopy2de.jpg

[Shawshank]

Here's my first [wobbly] step. just mucking around with the composition and trying to get everything vaguely in the right place before tightening up the image...

My one's on the right ;)

http://www.photopia.co.nz/gallery/andy24shaw/pics/J4zBMA38uCt6dl5j.jpg

laterrr...

http://www.photopia.co.nz/gallery/andy24shaw/pics/zSVZEvNyT0VhaRyv.jpg

[zhuzhu]

thanks all~~~!

finish:

< Rembrandt with a little bit smile > ha ha~~~:)

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3253/7705tk.jpg


face close up:


http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9639/770closeup9rb.jpg

[Rebeccak]

pierceda,

Great to see you here! Nice start! :thumbsup:

Shawshank,

Welcome aboard! :) It's nice to see your work as well! This is quite cool to see so many pieces so quickly!

Well, zhuzhu is a hard act to follow, but here's what I have so far: :D

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20016/Rembrandt-Copy_post-01.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20016/Rembrandt-Copy_post-02.jpg

[DigitalSol]

Heya,

RedSquirrel.
I like very much what are i doing with the character.

pierceda.
Really good looking sketch, strong structure, good luck.

Shawshank
Great progress, all are going so fast.

zhuzhu
Im huge fan of ur work, this is not the exception, supberb work.

Rebecca.
I like it very much, great colors, interesting textures, really like this one.

here is a little update, hope u like it

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Rembrandt%20Master%20Copy/sketch3.jpg

later!!

[Ego]

Great job everyone. I am the leader of the cheer group! :thumbsup:

Hey Bill, how do you manage to keep those two windows (your ref image and your canvas) open at the same time in photoshop? No matter how much I try, am unable to do it.

[Rebeccak]

A screenshot:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20016/Rembrandt-Copy_post-03.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20016/Rembrandt-Copy_post-04.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20016/Rembrandt-Copy_post-05.jpg

[SaraD]

And I´ve started :bounce:
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/OFDW%20016/Monk_002.jpg

[Aedilhum]

DigitalSol. Thanks. Looking good!

Rebeccak. Thank you. Glad you like 'em :).

pierceda. Thank ye.

zhuzhu. Nice final. congrats. :thumbsup:


Here's my update...now I'm off to bed.

http://jsimeth.com/gallery1/albums/digital/rembrant_post002lr.jpg

[pierceda]

zhuzhu, that's some great work, and done so quickly!

DigitalSol, the face is nicely built, I like the detail spent on the eye sockets.

Shawshank, looks like good blocking, it'll be interesting to see what directions we go with this piece.

Rebeccak, I like the texture you've started adding to the hat.


Had some more free time tonight, so I got some paint in there:

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2806/20060424rembrandtmastercopypai.jpg

[billcunningham]

Hey Queensoul,

In this case I'm using Corel Painter, not Photoshop, but it works in Photoshop too... you just open both pictures at the same time, make sure they are not maximized. If they are maximized, each picture will be filling the whole screen, and you'll only be able to see one or the other.

In the upper right corner of the frame you should see a pair of overlapping squares... click them to reduce the window for each picture. Make sure you click the ones INSIDE the Photoshop window, not the ones that are actually in the Photoshop toolbar. If you click the toolbar ones, your whole Photoshop window will shrink. If you click the ones INSIDE the photoshop window, just the open picture will shrink, but Photoshop will stay the same size.

http://static.flickr.com/51/134706725_e688d032c7_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_cunningham/134706725/)


You can shrink both open pictures like this, then click and drag the two sub-windows to the size and shape you want them to sit next to each other.

http://static.flickr.com/44/134706726_0c029ae1bc_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_cunningham/134706726/)


To make for a good reference, make sure the original and the copy have the same magnification. You can see the magnification as a little percentage number in the lower left corners of each separate picture window frame. Just click on that number and type in the number you want it to be. You can adjust the magnification to the size you want, then set the next window just like it.

(These notes are for Photoshop on a PC... on a Mac, the boxes might be in slightly different locations.. if you dont see them in the corners I've described, look in the opposite corners. But they are all there somewhere.)

I hope all this vague talk of boxes and windows makes sense... if I've totally botched the description and you have no idea what I'm talking about, let me know. It's actually pretty easy, just hard to explain in words.

And, on another note, this workshop is blowing my mind... every entry is excellent! I'll be back to mine tomorrow evening, hopefully I'll be able to catch up!

[SaraD]

Small update
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/OFDW%20016/Monk_003.jpg

[Zephyri]

Always amazes me how quickly the quality work builds up here! Digitalsol This looks really tight so far, the attention to the eyes is really paying off.. will you be continuing the rest of the piece to such intricacy? Zhu gods I love your brush work! Rebecca Really love the warmth you have in your coloured version and can't wait to see you work some texture in. SaraD looking promising, your figure renderings are amazing, so am curious to see where this will lead! Aedilhum I think yours is my fave so far, love the textural quality and the colours of it, looks so much like thick, slathered on paint! Pierceda really liking the slap dash approach your early stuff has.. looks like you took a large dripping brush to the canvas! And billcunningham That is a rather useful tip.. i knew you could do something simiar in PS, but not in Painter.. thanks for that!

And on to my own update, this is such a fantastic exercise... I wouldn't have thought myself able to do something like this in photoshop! His foot was particularly fun to do.:D

EDIT: oops... should point out that the overlaid closeup is of my painting too, not the original, it's at 100% size.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/rembrandt2.jpg

[Maladie]

Hey guys, mind if I join in?:)

I'm going to use this OFDW as gesture/value/colour practice and I combined the three in the below sketch. It was done in about 15 minutes.





http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/rava1981/Rembrandt/colorvalue.jpg

[aggie93]

WOW :eek: Great job everyone. I did absolutely nothing yesterday after my training. Too tired! I will start tonight.

Sara - you have done a fantastic start and I pointed you out because that is the one I have picked and I like you because you are from Sweden. lol :scream:

Mal - Speaking on the forums behalf, you are more than welcome. If they let me a traditional artist in...

Sam - You amaze me with your talent. Are you sure you are not an artist? Just kidding!

pierceda - You too have picked the one I was going to work on.

Rebecca - Great Start!

Sol - You too are an amazing artist. So fast to get to a refined piece!

I have noticed over the last few OFDW everyone that has been participating has increasingly gotten more talented. Great job guys.

[SaraD]

Thanks Aggie:)
Here´s an update. I´m gonna leave this one for now, and start on one of the others. Just to keep the flow, and not get into to much detail.
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/OFDW%20016/Monk_004.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Wow, guys, very very cool!

SaraD,

Finally! :D Great to see your WIP! :thumbsup:

Aedilhum,

Nice update ~ very cool! :)

pierceda,

I'm liking your brushstrokes, they're a bit Sargent~like. :)

Zephyri,

Wow, hard to tell the difference between the original and your copy! :eek: Awesome work!! :bounce:

Maladie,

Welcome back! It's great to see you in this OFDW as well! You are always welcome to join, as is anyone else who has the interest. :) Looking forward to your next steps! ;)

aggie93,

Thanks for cheering!

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Ego]

My first step during a boring watercolor class. Next steps, fix up the drawing errors in photoshop. *waves at everyone. Bill thanks for your helpful hint. I know I can open up two images side by side, however if I start working on one, the other goes in the background, which makes it a pain for sketching refs digitally. This is why I bought artrage for its ability to 'pin' reference images. I never knew photoshop and painter could do that as well. I'll try your step by step and see if it works.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/titussketch.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Lovely start, QS! Liking the shading a lot, and your structure is really improving! Looking forward to seeing the start of your painting ~ and don't forget to post your WIPs! :D

Cheers, :)

~Rk

[Rebeccak]

Well, this isn't going quickly...:rolleyes:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20016/Rembrandt-Copy_post-06.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20016/Rembrandt-Copy_post-07.jpg

[Iridyse]

Great start Audit! You're almost there already:D

DigitalSol, I'm really looking forward to seeing all the stages. I love how you build up the image!

Aedilhum : That's just beautiful. Awesome strokes! Oh and welcome :D I'm new here too!.

RedSquirrel: Welcome too! You've done a great job so far.I really like the textures, what are you using?

pierceda: I like the sketchyness you have right now! Some more texture and you're set ;)

Shawshank: Nice start :d Can't wait to see more.

Zhuzhu : :O You finished so soon! It is beautiful! The textures are great.

Rebeccak : Neat! I love how it is looking so far.

SaraD: Great going!

Zephyri: I'm speechless. The textures are spot on and the painting on the whole looks so perfect! Very very well done!

Maladie: Welcome!

Queensoul: Good job so far!

billcunningham: Oops, I missed you, and you were the first to post! The WIPs look great so far!

Elliepower: Nice start! I really like how you're handling the textures, they flow with the form.

I hope I didn't miss anyone else >.<

Anyway, here's my tiny update.Didn't do much, I got back from an exam and didn't want to look at any other face, haha. But then I couldn't stay away for too long, so I worked a bit on the face and the lace.I have a whole new level of respect for Rembrandt now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/hiiri/rem5head.jpg

This OFDW is really about textures isn't it? I need to work on that aspect anyway. Haha, I think right now the reason why I'm drawing is so I can show you guys, this forum is so nice! I love it.I'm getting a little intimidated by all the great work here though.

[Elliepower]

Hi,

it is amazing to see this good work all around.

For me, I am going offroad.. a bit, but not much.

:eek: Who is that, I think my boyfriend. Hehe... not a reference, because it doesn't work.

http://www.elliepower.de/myimg/chris1.jpg

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/Elliegalerie/remchris800.jpg

[DigitalSol]

SaraD.
Sure this is looking good.

Aedilhum
Great work, it really looks like a traditional media painting.

pierceda.
Good work on your as well, can't wait to see your update.

Zephyri.
I had always liked your work, Im your fan, this is looking great. Congrats.

Maladie.
That looks like a good start for me, keep on going with it.

Aggie93.
Big thanks.

Rebeccak.
Really cool work on yours, I like the temperature that your paint have, great work overall.

Queensoul.
I like very much your sketch, I will only add more contrast, good job.

Hiiri.
I love the way u paint, awesome, just that, awesome.

Elliepower.
Fantastic job, hahaha, well they are almost the same,

Here is my update, critics welcome.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Rembrandt%20Master%20Copy/sketch4.jpg

[Ego]

Aaawww Enrique love that underpainting.
Becca: Its coming along nicely. Dont worry :)
Audit: Long time no see. Welcome back. I love how vibrant the monk is turning out.
zhuzhu: what can I say? Great job.
Here is my second stage. Ugly stage part 1. :P
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/uglystagepart1.jpg

[audit]

Hellooo! My my what a busy thread this is...

Rebeccak - hi! nice to be back...love the greyscale. keep going!
Hiiri - seriously, that is looking stunning.
Zephyri - wow! that pastelly look is extremely convincing. isn't photoshop great?! :D
Aedilhum - another wonderful start...again, the texture is working really well
DigitalSol - looking good. the more refinements you make, the more i want to see it finished!
Queensoul - hello...yeah I was away for quite a while, college just took up too much time. It certaintly was quite a surprise to see the anatomy-shop reorganised.

Anyway, I did another copy today. I've included some images from the process as well ------

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/86audit19/cgforums/Figures/Rem2Brushtype.jpg
The brush type I use for most of this work. Goro's Structure3. I set it to about 90% opacity. There isn't much universal variation needed, since the brush is set to opacity jitter anyway.

I set the piece up with the original to the left, open a new canvas to the same size, and then double it. This makes a lot of room for stroke sizes, especially small ones which are necessary to bring off the final highlights, and in detailed areas such as the hair and face.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/86audit19/cgforums/Figures/Remsc1.jpg

You can really see the compositional errors in this way!! (sorry everyone...)

My method is...horrible: start in the top left corner and work to the bottom right. This is really wrong, since the sketch should come first, then major tonal areas, etc. I just start colour picking (alt+click) and away it goes. You can see the results below. Look at the left eye...haha :D I often correct the anatomy quite a lot as I go through. Once I have most of the 'paint' down, it's much easier to see relationships between areas of tone and value and the entirety of the image.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/86audit19/cgforums/Figures/Rem22.jpg

Colour picking has its advantages, but it's hard work. Ideally I would pick a new colour from the area I'm working from every few seconds. The nice (or nasty, depending on your perspective) thing with Rembrandt is that you're likely to find all kinds of colours everywhere on the canvas. This is a real help as it allows a proper dynamic range in a copy, rather than blocks or ultra-smooth gradients.

I don't actually zoom in much past what you see in the screencap (about 28% zoom is the max) since I don't want to be bothered with too many details...! Here is a bit at 100% res to show you what it actually looks like:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/86audit19/cgforums/Figures/Rem2100.jpg

Mmm. Nice. You'll notice I've corrected the eye...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/86audit19/cgforums/Figures/Rem2.jpg

I might add that in the final image, I added a googled image of some marble to the back wall set to 'multiply' at low opacity, to try and get more texture. I think it's just about visible...


-a

[Aedilhum]

hiiri. Looking great! very nice indeed.

Zephyri. Again, awsome job on this.

Here's my final, or nearly final update. Depending on if I feel like going back to it. There's a lot that could be done to it but hey, it's done for now.
http://jsimeth.com/gallery1/albums/digital/rembrant_post003lr.jpg

[Rebeccak]

hiiri,

Yours is looking effortlessly beautiful! Congrats on a great job so far! :thumbsup:

Ellie,

LOL, your posts always make me smile. Rembrandt + significant other = masterpiece, no? :D

Enrique,

Great update! Hard to crit at this point since so much is likely to change. Really looking great so far, though!

Queensoul,

Great start to your painting! :)

audit,

Awesome, thanks for that great tutorial! It's really cool to see everyone's work processes, since we all work in slightly different ways. The explanations are really useful, so thanks! :)

Aedilhum,

Wow, that was fast! Considering we are barely into the first week of a 4 week Workshop, do you have any plans to tackle any of the other pieces? Really lovely work, and what a pace!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[RedSquirrel]

Zephyri: wow, excellent work so far on the body and face, I like the foot too. :D

Zhuzhu: I'm envious of your quick start, its so loose yet looks so good. And your detail build up is looking amazing.

Aedilhum: great work on you piece, I like the textures and the brush strokes, especially.

Audit: Awesome work.

Digitalsol: Nice use of colour tones.

SaraD: I think your image is good so far, I hope you get back to it soon.

Queensoul: Stage one looking good.

Rebeccak: Thanks for the welcome, your WIP is looking good, great lighting.

Hiiri: Love the update on the face, excellent detail BTW the program I'm using is Project Dogwaffle Pro, with their standard oil brushes, while also changing the intensity of the canvas to give the image more texture.



http://www.solo2design.com/imageweb/painting03.jpg
Here's my final, its been fun and its amazing what you notice in Rembrandts works when your trying to duplicate them.

[Maladie]

Everyone: great work!! Particularly the progress of hiiri, audit and Digital Sol is stunning! I like how everybody whines about being lazy, not having done enough work, and then I scroll down and WHAM there's incredible work there:).

Sol, yours looks almost edible:). And hiiri, your lace looks great!

Here's a line sketch I quite liked. I was spooked by my earlier study, btw! I worked on it with bright sunlight coming through the curtains, and it looks way different (and worse) now!! I guess I'll have to become a nocturnal creature to work more on it:).

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/rava1981/Rembrandt/lines.jpg

[Rebeccak]

RedSquirrel,

Wow, that's coming along really well! The textures of the habit are looking superb!

Maladie,

I really like this line study, and think it's a great starting point for a painting. Looking forward to seeing it develop. :)

Small update: he's looking a little...fuzzy :D...still trying to find the right balance. :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20016/Rembrandt-Copy_post-09.jpg

EDIT: Another update:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20016/Rembrandt-Copy_post-10.jpg

[billcunningham]

That's what I am when I see the casual grace with which these paintings are falling off all of your digital brushes!

In particular I'm in awe of hiiri... that's the same face I'm working on, but for me it's a grueling wrestle with detail, and for hiiri, it looks so brilliantly nonchalant. That ease of strokes is something I've always envied in others, and have never been able to reproduce in myself.

Anyway, here's my work from tonight:

I'll be working on the face, so I zoom both pics in and dim the drawing layer so I can paint more easily on the paint layer under it:

http://static.flickr.com/47/135226461_51416e3b2f_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_cunningham/135226461/)


Next, I paint in basic colors and shapes under the drawing, using the lines to get me a bit more accurate. Build this up just to the point I feel confident doing away with the lines:

http://static.flickr.com/47/135226462_fdce717cc6_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_cunningham/135226462/)


So I shuffle the drawing layer under the paint layer, to make it disappear... from now on I'll be painting this face without those guides:

http://static.flickr.com/47/135226463_f5df1d942d_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_cunningham/135226463/)

Now I start getting heavy handed with color and thick, grainy shapes... trying to exaggerate the details of creases and wrinkles of skin:

http://static.flickr.com/53/135226465_ab800437bf_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_cunningham/135226465/)


Then I switch to a glaze brush set to very minimal opacity, and start glazing light ivories and yellows, and dark browns, and some pinks, around, following general planes on the head. This seems to subdue some of the clumsy harshness of the exaggerated lines, and give a bit more life:

http://static.flickr.com/51/135226466_e188db6abd_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_cunningham/135226466/)

And that's as far as I got tonight. This one is coming slowly. I think next I need to concentrate more on the colors in the original... I've been trying to stay close, but not being too accurate yet. I'm trying to build this up in translucent layers, but it's going too far from the feel of the original now.

Does anyone know how Rembrandt actually painted? Did he use thick solid paint from the start, or did he layer?

This is a very challenging exercise for me. I think at the moment I'm learning the most from trying to build the wrinkled skin around that eye on the left.

For anyone who likes slideshows... here's a link to a slideshow of progress on this painting (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bill_cunningham/sets/72057594115532298/show/).

DigitalSol and Rebecca, I'm really loving looking at your tonal studies, it looks like a good way to extract some specific knowledge from the act of copying... focus just on light and dark and gradients, don't worry about color, and it looks like you get a real sense of how light is being used, and how form is being given volume. If I keep struggling with this, I may try to do some quick tonal sketches of it over the weekend.

This is my new favorite thing on the inturwebs.

[pierceda]

Queensoul, looks like a good start with some nice gestural texture.

Here's a minor update, didn't have much time today but I got some work done on the face. My next step'll be to size up the image and start some detail work.

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/8468/20060425rembrandtmasterco9mr.jpg

[Ego]

In a hurry guys but I'll come back and take a closer look at all the awesome entries while I was asleep.

Here's my update to the sexy monk.
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/uglystagepart2.jpg
http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/comp.jpg

[SaraD]

Moving on to the next painting. Always had a problem with wrinkles so this will be a good exercise :scream:
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/OFDW%20016/Selfportrait_Rembrandt_001.jpg
http://sara.mallverkstan.net/images/WIP/OFDW%20016/Selfportrait_Rembrandt_002.jpg

[RedSquirrel]

SaraD: nice use of colours and a good start.

Queensoul: Excellent update, I think the nose needs to be lightened up a little so that it is a similar shade to his right cheek.

pierceda: great stuff.

billcunningham: wow, nice work on the wrinkles, especially under the eyes

Rebeccak: brilliant, with those added highlights it really brings the image alive.

Maladie: I love the looseness of your sketch

[Corvax]

alright here is my start.

15 min.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/rem15min.jpg

5 min.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/rem5min.jpg

I haven't had time to look through this this thread too much but, everybody seems to be doing well.:thumbsup:

--David René

[aggie93]

Alrighty now! I am posting my start of the work, FINALLY! :bounce: Don't laugh, I am going to try this again. It is oil on masonite I found in the shed. I am tired of putting a blob of oil on canvas and throwing it away. So I decided while I am practicing I will use what I can find. This particular board is about 36 X 18. Therefore, I am doing two studies on it, this OFDW and a Nydia Lozano study. I am also doing a color pencil of a lady from FTW for a donation :deal: (you can see that on my anatomy thread :eek: ). I have left the self portraits. It is difficult to keep up with it all. :sad:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/060425019.jpg

I cannot wait until I get a digital pin and pad so I can work like y'all. I feel like I am imposing on your site.

Corvax - That is a great 15 minutes... Hell a great 5 minutes.

Queen - you have this in b&w are you leaving it that what or do you add color later?

pierceda - your monk is looking great!

Bill - you are starting a great tutorial with you WIP.

Reb - I love the softness you have going with yours

Mal - good to see you here again. You have a great start with your sketch. Can't wait to see what you come up with.

Looks like I am the only traditional on this OFDW. Sorry guys!

[Ego]

Aggie dont apologize about using traditional!! Soon I'll be doing the OFDW only in oils. Thats what I wish I was using. But right now I cant. I've started coloring.

Enriquez thanks. I'll fix the values where you pointed out.

[Maladie]

Thanks Aggie and Readsquirrel for your encouragements:)! I went ahead with my sketch and tried to make a very rudimentary comp. I noticed that I had to stretch R's head quite a bit. I hope it's not considered cheating to free transform it instead of doing it all over? hehe.

This light in my room is killing me though. I mean, it's great for sitting outside, but hopeless for monitor work! This probably looks like sh*t because of that, I haven't been able to do much, I can't even see what I'm doing...I'm gonna sit outside now:)! (the only reasonable answer)


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/rava1981/Rembrandt/linecomp2.jpg

[Cyanid]

I missed this thread, but I was working on a master copy too:



http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c109/Cyanidart/caravaggio/ref_detail.jpg (http://www.mondomostre.it/images/caravaggio/cat_caravaggio_04.jpg)
by Caravaggio

15 minutes
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c109/Cyanidart/sketch2.jpg

1 hour
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c109/Cyanidart/painting2.jpg

[DigitalSol]

audit.
That looks pretty good, how u get that traditional look, can I see the brush you are using for this sometime?. Awesome work. :thumbsup:

Aedilhum.
I love the paint, seriously.:thumbsup:

RedSquirrel.
Great work, it haves a nice texture sense. :)

Maladie.
I like very much your work keep on going, I want to see it finished. :D

Rebecca.
Wow, I like it very much, con u tell me how do u set that texture on the paint, really great work. :applause:

Wow, Billcunningham, wow, that looks pretty good, I dont know to use painter like that, but the result is impressive.

pieceda.
Looking good :thumsup:

SaraD.
great start.

Corvax.
that was really fast :eek:

aggie93.
That looks really good, sometime soon i would like to try a traditional for this workshops, i used to paint in oils and watercolors, but for the moment I have no digital camera, that is looking really good.

Queensoul.
Great work, is looking really good.

Cyanid.
I love the colors on the copy.

Here is mine, still is far from finish but I want to keep that rough look, please tell me what u people think please,
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Rembrandt%20Master%20Copy/sketch5.jpg
Here is a little color test.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Rembrandt%20Master%20Copy/sketch6.jpg
Hope u like it.

[Corvax]

45min.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/rem45min.jpg

--David René.

[Iridyse]

Elliepower : I love the direction you're going in. It's such a neat idea. I want to adapt/change one of the paintings too, seems like fun!

DigitalSol: I think your painting is looking great! How do you do the colour test, it looks so lovely. I know it's something to do with layer modes but I can't seem to use that well enough.I'm stuck with painting like I do with oils. I need to learn to use Photoshop's tools, hehe. The eyes look a little too blue in the colour version though, but that should be simple to change. Those folds are gorgeous! And thank you :).

Queensoul : Nice tonal study. Haha, I just noticed your signature, great!

audit: Thanks for showing your process! It's turning out so well :D I opened a new canvas with the same dimensions too.It was mostly so I could check the positive/negative space, easier that way.

Aedilhum : Wonderful work! and so fast. I'm very impressed :D


Rebeccak : Thank you :) I really like the softness the face seems to have, it feels like flesh.

RedSquirrel : Thanks! I don't know what Dogwaffle Pro is but I'll look it up now. It seems to give great results. You have so many colours in there, I'm in love with the painting. I just realised that the colours are so "red squirrel" too, haha.

Maladie: Very nice lines! You have really captured the form of the face. :thumbsup:

billcunningham: Wow those stages are neat! I love the progress from one to the next.The strokes are gorgeous. I like how how you paint on top of the red-based underpainting, do you paint with traditional media too?

pierceda : Good stuff, keep going! :)

SaraD : Looking good :thumbsup:

Corvax: I like how you've painted the hand, great start! Edit: That's a lot of work for 45 mins, the head's looking nice!

aggie93 : Yay for oils! I don't know what masonite is though, we don't have it around here. I've heard about it a lot. I want to try a copy in oils too, the last I did was landscape by Corot.It was fun!

Cyanid: Very nice! You still have time for this one though :D


Here's my update. I've just been painting all over the image really. I worked some more on his left hand, a little on the lace and a bit on the books. I'm trying hard to work all over the image, I have a tendency to finish off one part and to move on to the rest. The colours are proving to be a bit of a problem too, because of the dark background. I don't colour pick, so it's usually glazes of colour over each other till I'm satisfied with how it's looking, or till I get tired :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/hiiri/rem6.jpg

[DigitalSol]

DigitalSol: I think your painting is looking great! How do you do the colour test, it looks so lovely. I know it's something to do with layer modes but I can't seem to use that well enough.I'm stuck with painting like I do with oils. I need to learn to use Photoshop's tools, hehe. The eyes look a little too blue in the colour version though, but that should be simple to change. Those folds are gorgeous! And thank you :).


Many thanks Hiiri, yeah, the eyes are blue, will work on it, thanks.

I used to paint in oils too, as a fact sometimes I do, not to often but Im not good enough working the colors and the form at the same time, even in oils I use a seven layer technique, very close to this, I made a tutorial if u are interested the link to there is in my signature, My painting tutorial, look around please.

Gorgeous paint, I really love your work. :thumbsup:

[Ego]

I have gingerly started a coloring wip. This is an adventure which I may very wimp out of :scream.

http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/colorwip.jpg

[DigitalSol]

I like it very much Queen, good work :applause:

[Maladie]

Good structural work, Oueensoul!! Also, the faces anatomy looks much more balanced now. His mouth makes him look like a geisha. But that's not necessarily a bad thing;)

[aggie93]

aggie93 : Yay for oils! I don't know what masonite is though, we don't have it around here. I've heard about it a lot. I want to try a copy in oils too, the last I did was landscape by Corot.It was fun!

Masonite is a composite board. It varies in thickness. http://www.pearlpaint.com/shop~ocID~500~parentID~500~categoryID~9863.htm I just did a general search and found this site. It appeared the oil was drying faster on it than on canvas. It is the first time I have used it too. We will see.

[Rebeccak]

Wow, so much great work going on here! :bounce:

Great stuff everyone ~ wow, QS, I'll say it again ~ your improvement is remarkable! I'm really proud of you. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Iridyse]

DigitalSol: I checked out your tutorial, very nice!Thanks :D

Queensoul: Wonderful! The colours are lovely and the image on the whole is looking very nice.

aggie93: Ah, thanks. Drying fast in a good way? Otherwise the paint looks dull, doesn't it? It may need some priming then.

[Corvax]

1 h. 15 min.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/rem75min.jpg

Im gonna slow down for a bit now... :)

[DigitalSol]

Good work Corvax, can u please show a close up of the paint?

[Corvax]

sure thing here is a crop at 50% :)

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/covax123/rem50p.jpg

--David René.

[TheDagger]

I haven't participated in OFDW in quite a while now, but I've been browsing through these threads regularly. It's nice to see that OFDW is still going strong. :)

Anyway, here's my attempt. I'm not exactly happy with it, maybe I'll start over or continue with this one if I have time.

http://www.winterkeep.com/ofdw/testi.jpg

[Rebeccak]

TheDagger,

Great to see you in this! Nice start here ~ you might want to darken the whole picture with a low opacity layer on top of all of your other layers, then rebuild the lights gradually. Looking forward to seeing your progress!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[aggie93]

aggie93: Ah, thanks. Drying fast in a good way? Otherwise the paint looks dull, doesn't it? It may need some priming then.

You know, like I said, this is the first time I have used it. I will have to see.

[Cyanid]

very nice progress here!

the dagger: nice start!

corvax: nice! the nose is especially good!

digitalsol: very nice sense of color, maybe the look is somewhat too polished, too smooth. The thing I like the most of Rembrandt are his rough, nearly overtextured paintings!

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c109/Cyanidart/caravaggio/painting3.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Cyanid,

The dome of the head is looking great! Great lighting so far, really liking it a lot! :)

If I may, my recommendation would be to be careful about not making the features of the face too small / bunched together...otherwise, really liking the color pallette so far and think you could really create a nice, finished piece!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Art2]

Great stuff! :thumbsup:
I'll be joining the fun too, I wanted to join for a long time.
I'll start this weekend :)

[Cyanid]

thanks for the fast reply rebecca!

I think I leave the face for what it is now, I focus more on the brilliant lightning of the original. You think the face is too 'compact' yet?

[Rebeccak]

Marlon,

It will be great to have you aboard! :bounce:

Cyanid,

You know, you're right, because in the original, the face is pretty compact as well. :) I wouldn't change it much, then, except to refine. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi Rebecca :) and Everyone

Who could resist trying to paint a Rembrandt?
Started this yesterday. Started smooth, wasn't satisfied, so broke out the thickest bristle oil brush I could find!

Everybody's stuff is looking great so far.
And it's a real pleasure to see it!

Take Care
Glenn


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/REMBRANT_3.jpg

[DigitalSol]

Hey Glenn, I like very much, really :), are u using Painter?

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi....Enrique....and THANKS...:)

Nice to see you painting this...Rembrant....he's a tough act to imatate....one of a kind style.
almost as hard as trying to do a copy of a Van Gogh...LOL ...:)
In answer to your question....The only program that I use is PAINTER # 9...I am in the process
of trying to learn Z BRUSH at the moment...hope to combine what I learn in Z BRUSH, with what I have learned so far in PAINTER # 9 .....Should be a nice combination I THINK...:)
Really looking forward to seeing your painting develope...if it comes out half as good as your
last painting, it will be ...GREAT...:thumbsup: .....Don't be afraid of those thick juicy brushstrokes...:scream:
IT'S ONLY PAINT...:eek:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

[DigitalSol]

Corvax.
Looking good, thanks for the close up.

TheDagger.
Really like your paint look, it seems it has painted in a cotton canvas or something like that, looking for your updates.

Cyanid.
Your work is going lovely, your color palette is great, with those vibrant color, congrats, I made a little test by aplying some textures with a brush hope u can give me an opinion.

SpiritDreamer.
So that is Painter, hu?, looking really good, I have Painter IX too, but I almost don't use it, because I dont know the program, since I work and studied Graphical Design, Im most confortable with Photoshop, but your paints encourage me to study Painter, great results, Thanks for the compliment, I hope u can give an opinion about this update.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Rembrandt%20Master%20Copy/sketch7.jpg}

Thanks to all

[tayete]

Well, here is my temporary advance. I hope this weekend I may be able to add some more detail:

I'll work in Painter IX (it rocks!), and well, I first created a small colour palette (you may watch the colour watches at the right) which will guide me more or less... I just used the technique described in Lynda.com's Colour DVD (which you MUST buy, it is the most comprehensible colours lessons I've ever had) to create that palette...

Then, I just started by creating a document the same size as the reference pic, with a medium grey background, and started doodling. After I started to paint with some oils I noticed my sketch had some flaws (for example, his left hand is not exactly at the same point as Rembrandt's one...).

Well, I hope I'll finish this!

[Ego]

yeah Glen! Nice to see you and a good start you got already.

Enrique, I love the painting with the texture; I happen to think that textures is what I need for this piece as well.
Great job guys. Put in an hour starting to work in the colors. I have to do something else but in the immortal words of the terminator 'I'll be back'!

http://www.queensoul.com/images/cgtalk/kimmelclass/colorwip2.jpg
I also reduced the left cheek. It was a bit puffy in my previous version.

[tayete]

The next step:

[Cyanid]

DigitalSol:

Thanks for your comments.
I think the textures are a little bit over the top now. Not that much, but espescially on the cheek and above the eyebrow it looks a little bit strange. the somewhat grainy red hues on the right side of the head look very Rembrandt!

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi ....QueenSoul....:wavey: THANKS
....Great to see you working on this one also..:)
....what's that saying...
YOU'VE COME A LONG WAY...BABY....LOL :scream: .....very true ...:) :thumbsup:

You might want to lighten up that dark line or creases edge on the side of his face..just a tad.
Other than that, it looks GREAT so far...can't wait to see how far you take it...you captured the
mood and expression perfectly....:applause:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi....Enrique.....:) .....I like the textured version better....think you should cut loose, and just
experiment a little with your painter # 9 program.....just make another version, or copy
of the one you are working on...put it into painter, and try out different brushes ect. on it.
You will still have the one you posted saved, with the method of painting that you already know so well, ...plus an experimental version done just for fun...you might just surprize yourself,.....your experimental version might come out better than your tried and proven method of painting.....you'll never know until you give it a try....but you''ll probably always
WONDER...:shrug: :eek: .... :)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Cyanid]

close-up of the head,
think it is coming along nice now.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c109/Cyanidart/caravaggio/painting4.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Heya Cyanid,

That's looking great! :) My one suggestion would be to make his right brow a little less prominent, since it is further away from the viewer. Really nice atmosphere! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[DigitalSol]

Queensoul.
looking good, thanks for coment my image.

Glenn.
Thanks for the coments, I will try to do something with Painter, by aplying the color directly in the next Rembrandt's portrait, I will try finish this one this same week, and try the next on Painter, thanks again.

Here is an update for mine, hope u can give me some feedback, thanks from now.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Rembrandt%20Master%20Copy/sketch8.jpg

[aggie93]

Here is my update from this morning. I didn't get to work on it much last night. I worked on my pin-up and started my other study. I am taking my boy on a boys weekend camping at Corpus Christi starting today. Therefore, I do not have time to even comment this morning. Sorry!

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/Aggie93/060426OFDW16.jpg

PS Masonite did appear to soak up the oil and dull it out. The oil did dry quite rapidly. Maybe you need to put some sort of primer on the surface first?

[Rebeccak]

Enrique,

That is looking great! I'll post some crits in a little while.

LOL, Aggie, :D

I posted something about priming and such on your Anatomy Thread here (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=3491925&postcount=64).

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Zephyri]

Wow, loads more great work! Thank for the positive feedback so far, this is proving to be a very interesting study for me. It's stunning how well versed Rembrandt was in the subtleties of hard and soft edges, and creating contrast with them. Glenn Wonderful to see you here, and looks like you've already broken out the heavy paints for this, cracking stuff, can't wait to see you build it up. Queensoul I've not been about as much as others, but you're stuff really has taken a leap on here, fantastic start and good call on the cheek. Aggie As rebecca's put something up about priming, I won't add -other than to say you can buy black primer, which might be better for this than straight white and covering in black again., Good to see you're doing this tradtionally... it's something i really want to have a go at! DigitalSol I think I like the texture... but Glenn's suggestion is a good one! The heavy oil brushes in painter are great for adding texture. However, I know what a nightmare painter can be to get to grips with if you've not used it much. Have you tried using a light chalky brush in PS to add texture? It's what I've used pretty much exclusively on mine, and its work well over a smooth base. Cyanid That carravagio is coming on beautifully... keep it up! Corvax wow.. thats great work for an hour and 15 mins! Are you going to keep going with it or try one of the other pieces? TheDagger I love the canvas effect you have on that, it looks like really smoothly mixed oil paints, I'd keep working with that rather than start again, it has great potential!

And an update on my own... the shinies are giving me headaches!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/xephyri/rembrandt3.jpg

[Maladie]

Wheeee! I love this!! I wish I had the beautiful oil brushes from painter, but it seems I have to make do with the natural brushes in PS?
Never mind, I know it doesn't look that great, but I'm learning so much about colour and Rembrandts style just makes me very happy:). Btw this took me quite a long time, like 2 hours or so. So at this rate I might not finish...

Digital: his eyes look a bit neon on my screen. The whites of the eyes look blueish. Also his moustache looks not quite belonging. For the rest I think you're doing superb work!



http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/rava1981/Rembrandt/colours1.jpg

[aggie93]

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c109/Cyanidart/caravaggio/painting4.jpg

Hey Cyanid, where did you find this picture of my bald head? lol Looking great.

Zeph - You have done such a great job in this little time we started. Are you sure you didn't start ahead of time?

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi Zephyri ......THANKS...:) .....GREAT TO SEE YOU HERE TOO.....:thumbsup:

SPIRIT WIND.....BLOWN AWAY.....SIMPLY BEAUTIFUL...:bounce: .can't wait to see it finished.:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Rebeccak]

Zephyri,

That's looking amazing! Really astounding progress, just can't wait to see this finished! :thumbsup:

Maladie,

I continue to be so impressed with your progress! It's always fun to feel that you're learning to master something ~ I think we all naturally like rules and it's great to see when following a specific course yields positive results...keep going, you're doing great so far!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Art2]

Zephyri, that is one awesome copy! :thumbsup:

Great job by everyone!!

[Jack Shannon]

Omg I cannot believe that I missed this thread! Such exellent work. Zhuzhu, amazing stuff. Digitalsol, great start, i loved your last one. Rebecca, those textures are great!

Grr, must finish this ones, i've started differently.

Anyway here it is, quick start, I know the right eye is mashed but meh, I'm tired. Goodnight.

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8527/011vf.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Jack,

Great to see you on board this one! Just bear in mind that these start up around every 2~4 weeks. We're only in week 1, so you've got three more weeks on this one, plenty of time! :)

Great start, and thanks for the compliment!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Jack Shannon]

Thanks for your awesome reply Rebecca, I'm new to going colour straight away, looking to learn lots from this one, i did in the last one.
I nicked one of my grandads books on Rembrant, called Rembrants eyes. It was really interesting, had some of his early paintings when he was fifteen, same as me because my birthday was last week :) Please excuse me for my absence lately, been really busy with school and coursework and stuff.

Cheers,
Jack

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi Rebecca and Everyone

Started working on the face today. Just roughing it in - long ways to go.
Having a hard time trying to get that little smile he has going on.
I can't believe how many colors he puts underneath his colors!
Take Care
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/REMBRANT_10.jpg

[ThreedyModeler]

Hello All! I've been checking out these workshops for a while now, and have really wanted to participate. I started on #14, but got swamped with work and life and didn't make significant headway on it.

Here's my start on this one. About 90 minutes, including one Photoshop crash (I need to save more often!) Sorry it's so dark... got started on the highlights, but I gotta wrap it up for today.

http://www.malomations.com/taber/cgtalk/ofdw16/OFDW16_01.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Glenn,

Great update! I like that you're straight painting this one ~ it's looking really solid! :)

ThreedyModeler,

Great to see you aboard this one! I think it's better to start out too dark than too light ~ nice start, looking forward to your next update!

/me goes to do some needed cleaning. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[SpiritDreamer]

THANKS....Rebecca....:)

REALLY ENJOYING THIS ONE, AND THAT METHOD OF PAINTING...:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Rebeccak]

Colorized update...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20016/Rembrandt-Copy_post-11.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20016/Rembrandt-Copy_post-14.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Originally posted by tayete: Well, here is my temporary advance. I hope this weekend I may be able to add some more detail:

I'll work in Painter IX (it rocks!), and well, I first created a small colour palette (you may watch the colour watches at the right) which will guide me more or less... I just used the technique described in Lynda.com's Colour DVD (which you MUST buy, it is the most comprehensible colours lessons I've ever had) to create that palette...

Then, I just started by creating a document the same size as the reference pic, with a medium grey background, and started doodling. After I started to paint with some oils I noticed my sketch had some flaws (for example, his left hand is not exactly at the same point as Rembrandt's one...).

Well, I hope I'll finish this!
Tayete, welcome aboard! I didn't see your post earlier, but it's great to see a new person join! Looking forward to your next steps, it looks like you have a great start! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[SpiritDreamer]

Rebecca....how are you doing the color....are you trying out Enrique's method for coloring,
just curious...that method he used on that last painting really amazed me...I did not
understand how it worked, because I don't use photo shop, but I was pretty surprized by it.
Am curious to see if any of the coloring methods work besides just eyeballing the colors on a
Rembrant...he used so many colors...:shrug:
I like your painting so far, was wodering if you are planning on going into it with the brushy look, like you did recently. I really liked those paintings and that style...those kind of strokes would look great on top of your curent painting I think...would really give it that extra punch.
plus you said that you really enjoyed painting in that brushy style, if I remember corectly.
Can't wait to see how you merge the two styles, if that is the direction you decide to take.

Just saw your golden version...like that one a lot .....:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Rebeccak]

Glenn,

Here are the steps I took ~ you can easily toggle through all of the different blending modes for a layer (described in depth below) by click on the layer and Shift + =. Each blending mode will give you a different result, and so I just play with Blending Modes, Color, and Opacity of a layer until I'm happy with the results.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20016/Colorize-steps.gif

I plan to paint back over this, sampling the colors created using blending modes.

Blending Modes are described as following in PS Help:

The blending mode specified in the options bar controls how pixels in the image are affected by a painting or editing tool. It's helpful to think in terms of the following colors when visualizing a blending mode's effect:






The base color is the original color in the image.
The blend color is the color being applied with the painting or editing tool.
The result color is the color resulting from the blend.
To select a blending mode for a tool:

Choose from the Mode pop-up menu in the options bar.

Normal

Edits or paints each pixel to make it the result color. This is the default mode. (Normal mode is called Threshold when you're working with a bitmapped or indexed-color image.)

Dissolve

Edits or paints each pixel to make it the result color. However, the result color is a random replacement of the pixels with the base color or the blend color, depending on the opacity at any pixel location.

Behind

Edits or paints only on the transparent part of a layer. This mode works only in layers with Lock Transparency deselected and is analogous to painting on the back of transparent areas in a sheet of acetate.

Clear

Edits or paints each pixel and makes it transparent. This mode is available for the Line tool Line tool (when fill region Fill Pixels icon is selected), the Paint Bucket tool Paint Bucket tool , the Brush tool Brush tool , the Pencil tool Pencil tool , the Fill command, and the Stroke command. You must be in a layer with Lock Transparency deselected to use this mode.

Darken

Looks at the color information in each channel and selects the base or blend color--whichever is darker--as the result color. Pixels lighter than the blend color are replaced, and pixels darker than the blend color do not change.

Multiply

Looks at the color information in each channel and multiplies the base color by the blend color. The result color is always a darker color. Multiplying any color with black produces black. Multiplying any color with white leaves the color unchanged. When you're painting with a color other than black or white, successive strokes with a painting tool produce progressively darker colors. The effect is similar to drawing on the image with multiple magic markers.

Color Burn

Looks at the color information in each channel and darkens the base color to reflect the blend color by increasing the contrast. Blending with white produces no change.

Linear Burn

Looks at the color information in each channel and darkens the base color to reflect the blend color by decreasing the brightness. Blending with white produces no change.

Lighten

Looks at the color information in each channel and selects the base or blend color--whichever is lighter--as the result color. Pixels darker than the blend color are replaced, and pixels lighter than the blend color do not change.

Screen

Looks at each channel's color information and multiplies the inverse of the blend and base colors. The result color is always a lighter color. Screening with black leaves the color unchanged. Screening with white produces white. The effect is similar to projecting multiple photographic slides on top of each other.

Color Dodge

Looks at the color information in each channel and brightens the base color to reflect the blend color by decreasing the contrast. Blending with black produces no change.

Linear Dodge

Looks at the color information in each channel and brightens the base color to reflect the blend color by increasing the brightness. Blending with black produces no change.

Overlay

Multiplies or screens the colors, depending on the base color. Patterns or colors overlay the existing pixels while preserving the highlights and shadows of the base color. The base color is not replaced but is mixed with the blend color to reflect the lightness or darkness of the original color.

Soft Light

Darkens or lightens the colors, depending on the blend color. The effect is similar to shining a diffused spotlight on the image.

If the blend color (light source) is lighter than 50% gray, the image is lightened as if it were dodged. If the blend color is darker than 50% gray, the image is darkened as if it were burned in. Painting with pure black or white produces a distinctly darker or lighter area but does not result in pure black or white.

Hard Light

Multiplies or screens the colors, depending on the blend color. The effect is similar to shining a harsh spotlight on the image.

If the blend color (light source) is lighter than 50% gray, the image is lightened, as if it were screened. This is useful for adding highlights to an image. If the blend color is darker than 50% gray, the image is darkened, as if it were multiplied. This is useful for adding shadows to an image. Painting with pure black or white results in pure black or white.

Vivid Light

Burns or dodges the colors by increasing or decreasing the contrast, depending on the blend color. If the blend color (light source) is lighter than 50% gray, the image is lightened by decreasing the contrast. If the blend color is darker than 50% gray, the image is darkened by increasing the contrast.

Linear Light

Burns or dodges the colors by decreasing or increasing the brightness, depending on the blend color. If the blend color (light source) is lighter than 50% gray, the image is lightened by increasing the brightness. If the blend color is darker than 50% gray, the image is darkened by decreasing the brightness.

Pin Light

Replaces the colors, depending on the blend color. If the blend color (light source) is lighter than 50% gray, pixels darker than the blend color are replaced, and pixels lighter than the blend color do not change. If the blend color is darker than 50% gray, pixels lighter than the blend color are replaced, and pixels darker than the blend color do not change. This is useful for adding special effects to an image.

Difference

Looks at the color information in each channel and subtracts either the blend color from the base color or the base color from the blend color, depending on which has the greater brightness value. Blending with white inverts the base color values; blending with black produces no change.

Exclusion

Creates an effect similar to but lower in contrast than the Difference mode. Blending with white inverts the base color values. Blending with black produces no change.

Hue

Creates a result color with the luminance and saturation of the base color and the hue of the blend color.

Saturation

Creates a result color with the luminance and hue of the base color and the saturation of the blend color. Painting with this mode in an area with no (0) saturation (gray) causes no change.

Color

Creates a result color with the luminance of the base color and the hue and saturation of the blend color. This preserves the gray levels in the image and is useful for coloring monochrome images and for tinting color images.

Luminosity

Creates a result color with the hue and saturation of the base color and the luminance of the blend color. This mode creates an inverse effect from that of the Color mode.
Cheers, :)



~Rebeccak

[SpiritDreamer]

THANK YOU ....Rebecca....I THINK.....:banghead: :)

Almost the same effect that I get in painter, when I tint the whole painting, and then shine
colored spot lights on different areas of the painting...and then ajust the contrast, color,
values ect, afterwards.
IS the method you are using the same as the method that Enrique decribed while doing the
Caravaggio painting, or is Enrique's method totally different...just curious...it seemed like
Enriquie was able to pinpoint small areas of color, like grapes, bread, shirt sleeves, ect, and
superimpose them on his monochromatic golden colored version.
Not trying to make your head hurt or anything....LOL ...was just curious.
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[aggie93]

Reb - You make that look like once you get the rendering down, you can just pick and choose a color scheme. Not trying to take away any talent that is in here, but you made it look like it was almost cheating compared to traditional art work.

I know this is probably going to open up a can of worms. I do not have any means of digital art knowledge. Be nice to me and explain it. I do want to get into it but just do not have the funds for all the stuff right now.

[depleteD]

Holy...Crap....

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi ...aggie....Boy are you in big troble now.....worms everywhere....LOL...JUST KIDDING...:scream:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Rebeccak]

Aggie,

Ah, welcome to Digital Art Debate 101. ;)

Cheating...hmm, well, in traditional work, many 'Old Masters' built up a monochrome or black and white or brown / white underpainting, and then glazed with multiple successive layers of thin paint on top.

Leonardo da Vinci (http://www.welcometuscany.it/tuscany_photo_gallery/arezzo_anghiari_Battle_standard_leonardo_da_vinci_paint.jpg) is a great example of this.

If I waited for for hours before creating a new blending mode layer, would this then not be 'cheating'? :) Digital art is faster, and this debate is not one that is likely to end.

I've spent so much time focusing on grayscale pieces because of a number of reasons. The first is that I know that the value structure matters far more than the colors placed on top. Even in traditional painting, the drawing is FAR more important than the colors used. You may have heard the mantra, Drawing IS Painting. Michelangelo said this, I believe.

Apart from this, as an artist, I am using Photoshop ~ Photoshop is not using me. Photoshop did not make the value structure choices for me, I did. Nor does Photoshop know how to draw or to make proportional judgements, I do. Photoshop does not know what colors look good together and what looks 'right', that's me. The tool never does the entire job for you ~ that's quite clear from all of the different results we are seeing here on this thread. Each person's personality is coming out through their discriminating use of digital tools.

The second reason I've focused so much on grayscale is because I know how quickly one can add color with the use of Blending Modes. Yep, it's loads faster than allowing a canvas to dry for days before going back to it and painting again. But, let's put it this way ~ is using a pre~stretched canvas that you buy at the artstore 'cheating'? Shouldn't you stretch it yourself? Or, if you go further, shouldn't you grow the cotton, grow the tree for the wood, cut it down, and make it into the canvas supports, make the nails from metal you've mined, put the support together, stretch the canvas, and then go about making your gesso and brushes and paints? :) Digital art has made me realize the extent to which oil paint and acrylic paint and even a charcoal pencil is a technology. You and I don't create those tools, Aggie, or understand their chemical properties any more than we understand the technology that enables digital artists to use the blending Modes of Photoshop to add color.

If I get a good result quickly, it's in part thanks to the technology, but it's also due to my years of traditional training. These days, however, people can start totally from a digital beginning and improve quickly, thanks to the tools. But a person still has to have skill and be willing and able to learn the basic principles of art. That's why we're focusing here in these Workshops on a Master Copy ~ not to emulate the exact way in which the painting was constructed ~ that would take years, not weeks, after all ~ but to learn the basic aspects of drawing, color, composition, value, etc. In fact, this is really the whole purpose behind the Workshop ~ to emphasize that principles inherent in traditional art should be carried over to Digital Art. However, digital art is distinct from traditional art, and by no means is the purpose of digital art to replicate the traditional MEANS of achieving a digital end.

To think of it another way, Aggie, what happens if you take away oil paints and acrylics and pencils and pens, canvas, and paper? Are you an artist then? An artist relies on his or her tools. Photoshop is a digital tool, meant to be used. It has properties which enable certain things to be faster. For example, a pencil and paper enable you to make marks on a page. It's a tool / technology that lets you do something that you couldn't do without them. And the same with oil paint. You can get marvelous effects with oil paint, thanks in large part to the paint itself and the brushes and canvas ~ not you. Tools are as much a part of being an artist as is talent and hard work. Photoshop is a tool. It is as much a part of being a digital artist as is talent and hard work.

Other 'cheating' analogies ~ driving a car is faster than walking. Is driving 'cheating'? Well, it's not walking, it's driving. It enables you to do something faster. Another analogy is this: communication in it's original form is through talking face to face or by writing letters on paper. Are we 'cheating' by communicating through the internet? Are we cheating because it's faster? Should we all abandon the internet and go back to just speaking to only those people we would encounter in our real lives, because that is communiation in it's 'purest', most original form?

That being said, not everyone who purchases a copy of Photoshop is going to become an artist. A person using a digital painting program has to be able to make the same kind of judgements as a traditional artist.

It's a subject that will likely always be debated as long as digital and traditional art are around. To my mind, as long as someone doesn't trace / sample colors from the original, or downright copy / paste elements into their own work, all of the other digital tools on hand are there to be used.

Glenn,

Everyone approaches things a little differently. I am laying down the biggest areas first and will refine later. This is WIP, remember. ;) You don't have to fill an entire layer set to a blending mode with color ~ you can carefully paint just a grape, and leave the rest of the painting untouched. I could do the same thing on any or all objects of a painting. It just depends on the individual artists' approach.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Ego]

That word 'cheat' makes me cringe.!

[LoTekK]

Psst, aggie: "Undo" would also be a cheat in some sense of the word. ;)

Too early in the day for a coherent reply beyond that. ^_^

[DigitalSol]

@Glenn.
I like very much your paint's mood, the colors they are too much in the original, and the textures are looking really great, congratulations, great work.I will try Painter for the next portrait

@ThreedyModeler
Looking good.

@Rebecca.
Great update, i like very much the colors u are using, as for the method I think the base is the same (I mean play with the layer's blending modes), but the execution is diferent, looking really great,:thumbsup: u exposed the point very good the results depend enterly by the artist not in the tool that use, no matter if is traditional or digital, that is the same thing that once a student of mine ask, and same answer I gave.

[DigitalSol]

All
There is a method called the seven layer method for painting in oils, is the method that I use in traditional oils, I learned it at the univ, as I know, it was created in the 16th centyury and great painters as Rubens, Van Duke or Snyders used it, it is very confortable for me, since as i said Im not good working in color and form at same time, when i learn to use the PS for paint, I tried to translate that technique to the digital media these are the steps.

Drawing on paper
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Rembrandt%20Master%20Copy/a00.jpg

Transferred to the painting
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Rembrandt%20Master%20Copy/a0.jpg

IMRIMATURA
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Rembrandt%20Master%20Copy/a1.jpg
1ST LAYER

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Rembrandt%20Master%20Copy/a2.jpg
2ND LAYER

[DigitalSol]

PODMALYOVOK
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Rembrandt%20Master%20Copy/a7.jpg
3RD LAYER

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Rembrandt%20Master%20Copy/a3.jpg
4TH LAYER


DEAD LAYER
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Rembrandt%20Master%20Copy/a4.jpg
5TH LAYER

1ST BODY
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Rembrandt%20Master%20Copy/a5.jpg
6TH LAYER

LESSIROVKA
2ND BODY
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Rembrandt%20Master%20Copy/6.jpg
7TH LAYER

[DigitalSol]

aditional to this when u have the seven layers complete, u can colorize the paint with light oil washes, covering the underpaint created.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Rembrandt%20Master%20Copy/7.jpg

I think that one is better digital artist when u have painted in traditional before, because that way u think about the computer as a tool.

Aw, I almost forgot my update

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Rembrandt%20Master%20Copy/sketch9.jpg

[Cavematty]

Hey all,
been lookin in on the master copies. decided to chime in.
Heres a quick start - its not much but i kept puttin git off, so i thought it was time to chime in :)


http://www.photopia.co.nz/gallery/Fabio/pics/GabyQHLnRVPWknH4.jpg




my guy is a bit larger atm.But was using a pretty large brush for most of it.
Great work everyone - daunting how quickly you are all getting on with your pics - you know its 4 weeks long aye? or are you all doing multiple rembrandt copies :P
Very inspiring.
And rebecca thanks so much for setting all this up - the best of the spotlight thread has consumed several hours of my work time already :P
I know you really must dedicate a lot of time here and i just wanted to say how much we all appreciate it. Respect.
anyways off for some dinner.
update in a couple days (im away for the weekend :)

[pierceda]

Cavematty, looks like a good gestural start.

DigitalSol, the frills look great.

Rebeccak, I really like the grain texture you've got going.

Here's tonight's update:
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/8514/04272006rembrandtmastercopy0ii.jpg

[Cavematty]

heehee once i posted i could see how off some parts were so i spent a lil longer correcting it.
plus someone turned up to work with food leftover from todays shoot so i got some yummy cake to tide me over for a bit :D
Heres the update:
http://www.photopia.co.nz/gallery/Fabio/pics/G7mBO9Y1gLpZdQFb.jpg

[Cyanid]

cavematty, nice colorscheme...keep it up!!
digitalsol: aahh where are the colors?? :D
rebeccak: thats a great technique...though I don't use it, it seems worth trying :)
Though I one would learn more by trying and blending colors instead of adjusting some hues with layeropacity's etc. But maybe I am wrong.
I adjusted the eyebrow a little bit. better now?

I am stuck with the beard, its very hard, any tips/suggestions?

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c109/Cyanidart/caravaggio/beard1.jpg

the overall:
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c109/Cyanidart/caravaggio/painting5.jpg

I'm off for the weekend now :)

[Maladie]

WOW! I think the discussion here is sooo interesting. It certainly has me thinking about workflow, artisticity (if that's a word:)), colours, values, everything! Sometimes I almost get overwhelmed by this new world that's so rich and fascinating (and then I have to sit down and have a cookie:)).

Rebecca, I would love to try your method. Just not sure I completely understand. Would you mind validating this guess:
- make a black and white value layer
- put a coloured layer on top
- make a layer mask (?) for the areas you want to apply the colour to
- experiment with the blending modes
- make a new coloured layer and mask
- experiment
- merge satisfying result.

Right?:)

I was never that great at using masks, I don't fully understand how to make and use them. I'll see if I can get a book about it somewhere.
Btw, I thought your explanation about the computer as a tool was really great. It moved me. It