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Simon
04-24-2006, 12:50 AM
Seems like I should really have one of these!

the first Sp left a bit to be desired.

http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/2d/Sp/doogle1.jpg

Detail crazy this one. Yes I do have a fluffy face.. yes you may stroke it.

http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/2d/Sp/doogle2.jpg

http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/2d/Sp/doogle3.jpg

http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/2d/Sp/doogle4.jpg

http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/2d/Sp/doogle5.jpg

http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/2d/Sp/doogle6.jpg

http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/2d/Sp/doogle7.jpg

My Dad:

http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/2d/dad.jpg

Simon
04-24-2006, 12:56 AM
http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/images/3d_portrait_1.jpg


3d but based on myself.. can you tell?

Oh and the old unnished one http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/images/Self%20portrait94a.jpg

Oh and my ex..

eesh
http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/images/bridder4_small.jpg

Rebeccak
04-24-2006, 01:05 AM
Sweet! :)

I included your pieces within the P~T section, going with "S" as something more easily placed than "99". :)

SPOTLIGHT: Best of the Personal Anatomy & Sketchbook Threads, P~T (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3481751#post3481751)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3481751#post3481751

Great stuff Simo!

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Simon
04-24-2006, 01:13 AM
Awww thanks beccak *hugs*

I'll keep churning it out. ;)

Simon
04-24-2006, 12:58 PM
http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/2d/Sp/doogle8a.jpgWip on todays SP

Simon
04-24-2006, 02:07 PM
Working in the tone!

http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/2d/Sp/doogle8b.jpg

Rebeccak
04-24-2006, 02:09 PM
Sweet! Recall that I will be pestering you for a tutorial. ;)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Simon
04-24-2006, 04:14 PM
Sp overdrive is like crack!

http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/2d/Sp/doogle8c.jpg

Simon
04-24-2006, 04:27 PM
Sweet! Recall that I will be pestering you for a tutorial. ;)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Lol I don't know anything! I just copy what I see.. lol. I'm not good at anything hehehe.

Rebeccak
04-24-2006, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by Simo: I'm not good at anything hehehe.
Roigggggght. ;) *ROFL* :scream:

Simon
04-24-2006, 05:49 PM
Meanie ;)

What could I do one on?

Rebeccak
04-24-2006, 05:51 PM
General PS painting. Maybe a step~by~step of one of your SP's. Or how about something 3D / ZBrush related?

*cough (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=3435258&postcount=7)* :D mv might be able to help out with this if you were interested. :)

Cheers,

~Rk

Simon
04-24-2006, 06:00 PM
OK OK! :deal:

I'll do modelling a hand I'n z-brush.. ;)

I'll work on my hands for a bit first, I dont want to teach complete rubbish.

Then I'll do a skull maybe.. although I could really do with a model of a skull to work from before I could do something like that.

...gets out Anatomy for the artist...

Rebeccak
04-24-2006, 06:17 PM
w00t! :D

Thanks Simo! Looking forward to it. :)

Did you want to do a Workshop, a Tutorial, or both? It's all fine by me. :)

Simon
04-26-2006, 06:30 PM
http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/2d/Sp/doogle10.jpg


todays SP WIP

Rebeccak
04-26-2006, 07:06 PM
Man, those eyes Simo! Remind me never to anger you! :)

Simon
04-26-2006, 08:06 PM
http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/2d/Sp/doogle10b.jpg

FINNI! well nearly.

Simon
04-26-2006, 08:09 PM
Man, those eyes Simo! Remind me never to anger you! :)

Hehe no I'm the silent burning type. lol just angry at the world mostly. :p

I'm all smiles and cuddles really. :D

Rebeccak
04-27-2006, 01:53 AM
It would be great if you worked on the SPs further ~ maybe you could convince that quality, not quantity, is better in this case. ;)

These are great, and should definitely be finished if you get the chance. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
04-27-2006, 02:17 AM
Hi...Simon....WOW ....THOSE EYES.....have the intensity of a Van Gogh ... NICE...:thumbsup:
Really enjoyed looking through your thread...nice technique, style, and GREAT MOOD to all of them ....looking forward to seeing more....:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Simon
04-27-2006, 02:18 PM
It would be great if you worked on the SPs further ~ maybe you could convince that quality, not quantity, is better in this case. ;)

These are great, and should definitely be finished if you get the chance. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Well I promise I will in a month or so. when the overdrive is over. ;) I'll cherry pick my favorites and develop them a little.

Glenn: Hehe thanks a lot mate, I've never been likened to Van Gogh before... lets hope I don't end up like him tho..

I'll keep at it!

SpiritDreamer
04-27-2006, 02:40 PM
LOL....Simon....just don't start eating your paints, and stay away from whatever it was that he
drinking.....and don't hate the world too much.....it has been broken since it started, and will
always be broken......just enjoy the good parts while you can....:) :scream: :thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Simon
04-27-2006, 07:11 PM
LOL....Simon....just don't start eating your paints


But they are so tasty! :scream:

Simon
04-27-2006, 10:20 PM
Just playing around with the hand im making for my workshop.

http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/Hand/hand2.jpg

Rebeccak
04-27-2006, 10:23 PM
/me drools...

Wow! That's gorgeous, Simo! :)

LoTekK
04-27-2006, 11:19 PM
Holy crap, awesome hand. Really nice relief on that (I'd love to see a wire). Love the dirtmap you've got on the fingers, too. :thumbsup:

Simon
04-27-2006, 11:27 PM
Holy crap, awesome hand. Really nice relief on that (I'd love to see a wire). Love the dirtmap you've got on the fingers, too. :thumbsup:

heres a wire from a bit back.

hope you like. :)

http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/Hand/hand3.jpg

fredlovebot
04-28-2006, 10:59 AM
/me drools in sync with becca

It's awesome! Makes me wanna get into Zbrush some time again!

Simon
04-28-2006, 12:52 PM
Gorg, come make some hands in the workshop. :)

There are base meshes to play with.

Simon
04-30-2006, 01:53 AM
*Deleted for sheer awefulness! *


Meh i fcekd that one up.


SO ANGRY! ARHG

MattBirkett-Smith
04-30-2006, 06:46 PM
sorry, I don't mean to be rude but are you tracing these from photos? Regardless yor shading is good and you are definitely improving - keep it up.

Simon
04-30-2006, 06:51 PM
Nah not tracing, if I was tracing my proportions wouldnt be so aweful! :thumbsup:

They do take a lot of time though, I often do one then end up attacking it with the liquify tool to move stuff around.

Simon
05-02-2006, 09:21 PM
http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/2d/Sp/doogle11.jpgTried some colour crazyness for tonights.

Rebeccak
05-02-2006, 09:53 PM
Wow, Simo...you look so...pretty! :D What ever have you done to your hair? :)

Simon
05-02-2006, 10:12 PM
so...pretty! :D

:blush: *cries*

What ever have you done to your hair?

my hair.. lol that was just random today.. the gold was some crazy specular stuff going on from my horrible light on my ceiling.

pisano
05-03-2006, 12:56 AM
So far its been pencil and paper for me, this thread is going to make me buy a wacomb , or whatever they call 'em.

Can anyone spot me any quality tutorials so far its been fun experimanting, but i could always use some guidance, you can view my 2d WIP, for more info, tired out my first colour atmpt with photoshop.

Simon
05-03-2006, 08:51 PM
http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/2d/Sp/doogle12.jpg

This one is aweful..

:(

DoctorBone
05-03-2006, 08:57 PM
You have got the eyes working <> eye lashes are usually left out or indecated as a shape not individual hairs <> having said that of course the decision in certainly yours >< I love the stare and think the lashes take away a little!

Give a little more thought to what is around the eyes as well as the eyes themselves

Simon
05-03-2006, 09:06 PM
Thanks a lot for the thoughts man. the eyelashes really were strangely strong, I'll work them in a bit.

I'll get back on it!

Rebeccak
05-03-2006, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by Simo: Oh, being the most ridiculously goodlooking person on cgtalk
:D Simo, being so pretty, how could you have neglected to fluff the eyelashes? :D :p

Rebeccak
05-03-2006, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by Simo in Gen Discussion: I do really want to draw beautiful nudes.. But I have no access to life drawing classes, and drawing from porn.. well hmm. :shrug:
Psst! Why not take part in the OFDWs? ;)

Open Figure Drawing Workshops with Hong Ly and Rebecca Kimmel (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=2602753&postcount=3)

Or, alternately, draw from the artistic reference as can be found on:

www.characterdesigns.com (http://www.characterdesigns.com)
http://justmeina.deviantart.com/gallery/

It's not the same, I know, as drawing from life, but it can help. :)

Also, it's good to do Master Copies. I can provide some links if you are interested. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Simon
05-03-2006, 11:50 PM
haha, you really are omnipresent!

I was going to do the Rembrant. But I just finnished a Mini dissertation on him, alongside a modern painter.. Linda! If I'd of painted another of his images. I would of torn my brain out. I promise I'll contribute on the next. ;)

That DA account is great. Thanks for that!

You just gotta be sure to bully me into these things Becca.

-Simon

Rebeccak
05-03-2006, 11:57 PM
haha, you really are omnipresent!
You rang? :D

That DA account is great. Thanks for that!
Yes, Ben is a great model! :) He's allowed us to use his images for previous OFDWs, which has been great!

You just gotta be sure to bully me into these things Becca.
Count on it! :thumbsup:

Simon
05-04-2006, 03:25 PM
Ok had half an hour of boredom today so did a pencil doodle. Had to take a photo, due to no scanner. Cleaned for 5 mins in photoshop..

http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/2d/Anatomy/man1.jpg

Simon
05-04-2006, 05:11 PM
Updated the above pic.

Rebeccak
05-04-2006, 06:07 PM
Simo,

Good to see you starting on some figure studies. :) I think with these you might consider setting a goal similar to what you're doing with the SPs ~ perhaps do one of these a day, and try to get bit more gesture down first before really going to render. I think you have a decent twist going with the torso and the head, but the arms need more refinement / articulation. Have you ever tried drawing in ballpoint pen? You can be a lot more precise that way, and I think it might speak to your ability to refine / detail. As well you can get really nice gestural lines with ballpoint pen, and draw surprisingly lightly with it. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Simon
05-04-2006, 06:54 PM
Hey Becca,

I especially felt the back arm was very weak, it needed more prethought, its been my first physical piece of art for 3 months :eek:. I'm horrified when I think that every hard line I lay down can't just be undone.

I have this habit now of blocking out the tone.. but it doesnt translate into real media. its a real clog in my workflow.

I'll try to get one done every few days if I can. I think my only ballpoint got permanently "borrowed" by a friend. I think I will have to put my staples membership to good use.. Their new catalogue turned up yesturday... The laminated book of dreams!

having said that I still havnt put my new acrylics and oils to use and those pallete knives.. and that 1.5 metre canvas. then theres the french curve set thats still in its packet and the elipse templates. Infact this piece was done with some pencils I was given and still hadnt used. And i havnt even read more than 3 pages of "anatomy for the artist". Ack.. so many materials so little time!

Rebeccak
05-04-2006, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by Simo: I'll try to get one done every few days if I can. I think my only ballpoint got permanently "borrowed" by a friend. I think I will have to put my staples membership to good use.. Their new catalogue turned up yesturday... The laminated book of dreams!
LOL Simo at that last bit ~ I really think doing daily studies would help, though. :) Try your darndest to find a ballpoint pen, I have a feeling you'd get a kick out of drawing that way. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Simon
05-04-2006, 08:34 PM
Whoop. I've managed to borrow a rollerball. I had to explain the difference between a rollerball and biro.

When I was 14-5ish I loved to use rollerballs to draw stuff.. I guess mostly soldiers and stuff like that. (damn i feel old now)

hmm it realy haemorrhages ink into the paper! (on that note I'm running out of thick paper. I only have tissue thin 99p pads left) Ill have to have a play before I can get anything decent on the go. :)

Hmm now what to try....

Simon
05-04-2006, 10:55 PM
Did a quick facial study on myself before bed.

http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/2d/Sp/doogle13.jpg

I really NEED a model as 2d images of front and side that I've learnt from dont make sense to me. I cant really afford a model right now though.

Anyone got any tips on grave robbing? :scream:

SpiritDreamer
05-05-2006, 04:02 AM
Simon....you might try two or three or four mirrors...placed right, you can see all the way around yourself in them...:)
Really liking that last face that you just posted....nice study...:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

razz
05-05-2006, 05:36 PM
Sproth, first of all, hi.

Studies like this are always good. Some realy beautiful self-portraits in this thread. Makes me want to draw some myself, but yeah, same here, so little time and so much to do. Ok, good luck with your future studies, I'd like to see more.

Simon
05-05-2006, 05:57 PM
Glenn

Thanks I will try it out. :)

razz: Thanks for dropping by! I'll keep going.

I did a figure drawing today In pencil, but again.. no scanner..

Rebeccak
05-05-2006, 06:06 PM
"Quick facial study"?!

Wow, nice work Simo ~ any plans for finishing this up? :)

Digital pics are fine...doesn't have to be perfect quality in order to get the gist. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Simon
05-05-2006, 07:51 PM
Lol yeah it was just an hour starting from a 400 poly base mesh.

Heres another hour.

:)


http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/2d/Sp/doogle14.jpg

Rebeccak
05-05-2006, 10:21 PM
Simo,

That's awesome, keep pushing this! Can't wait to see your final product. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Simon
05-05-2006, 11:12 PM
It took an hour but i managed to fix the bug that wasnt allowing me to subdivide him more.

I took a page out of spirit dreamers book and worked on his 90:10 colour ratio.. but did it in colour histogram leveling. It worked a treat. just need to fix a little of the blobbyness now. Also some of the anatomy is a bit poop.
http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/2d/Sp/doogle14a.jpg

Rebeccak
05-05-2006, 11:17 PM
Simo,

The coloring is looking fantastic! I would agree that the anat is a little wonky. :D

Here is a great reference source that you might like:

http://www.anatomyatlases.org/atlasofanatomy/plateindex.shtml

http://www.anatomyatlases.org/atlasofanatomy/plate09/index.shtml

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

LoTekK
05-05-2006, 11:17 PM
:eek:

Christ, dude, awesome study. Nice attempt with the almost-full-figure study you did in graphite, too. :thumbsup:

Simon
05-05-2006, 11:38 PM
Thanks Lo! Done an Sp for today yet? ;)

Becca great I'll use those refs to work from. I had a quick look round the forums to start (thats what inspired me to start this) but I missed those goodies.

Cheers!

Wow z-brush just catastophically died and corrupted my file.

><
-


Ok my backup is old and I dont even have that texture saved.


EEK

Rebeccak
05-05-2006, 11:47 PM
Oh no! :sad: Really sorry to hear that Simo...well, I guess the next one will be lot faster, eh? :D Sorry to hear that...such is computer life, unfortunately.

You may have seen this already, but there is lots of great reference here:

Reference for Anatomical and Figurative Art (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=257570&page=1&pp=15)

Hope you start a new model soon Simo! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
05-06-2006, 02:16 AM
Hey...Simon....Spirit Dreamers book....LOL...:scream: ....glad it was useful to you...not a waste of

energy and time...makes me feel good..:thumbsup:

On that face ...the two errors that I see right away, are....the ridge bone that runs along
the side of his face....starts lower down,lower backside of cheek bone...ends up..lower middle
of ear..lines up with that little tab or flap, that the upper and lower portions of the ear tie into,
the part that points in towards the center of the ear.
The other error is....the ridge bone that runs along and seperates the side plane from the front plane of the forhead and temple....yours is too far in towards the center of dome of skull.
Should start at the upper corner of outter edge of eye socket. and extend back makeing an almost cresent shape as it goes back..defineing the roundness of the outter edge of the dome shape of the front of the skull.....the forhead also has two side planes, that surround the front plane.
when you move that ridge bone outward, you will then have more room to put those side planes in....Doctor Bones has a nice example of what I just decribed, somewhere in one of his anatomy threads...it is a painting of a face he was working on...full color and big.
YOU can also run your fingers along those bone stuctures and feel feel there shapes and directions ect.
REALLY like that face study of yours a lot....might try one myself shortly, now that you have helped me figure Z BRUSH out some....THANKS for that by the way...:thumbsup: :)
I will return the gesture somehow IF I AM ABLE TO...

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
05-07-2006, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by Simo on another thread:

mwhaha so true!

Shhh shes watching us! :surprised

http://english.chosun.com/media/photo/news/200605/200605040016_01.jpg

Yes. Yes I am. :D

Simon
05-07-2006, 06:53 PM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Lol I think I just swallowed my tounge.. :p

Simon
05-15-2006, 07:04 PM
Just a quick 1.5 hour z-doodle.. not sure this should really be in this forum.. but.. meh. :p


http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/2d/Sp/doogle15.jpg

razz
05-15-2006, 07:08 PM
That was fast. I love creepy stuff!!! But heey, he doesn't look angry :P I see it from the eyes 0_0

Rebeccak
05-15-2006, 07:28 PM
Wow, Simo, very cool! The only thing that really bothers me is the jagginess about the eyes ~ how do you go about smoothing those thin edges in ZBrush? Does working at twice the resolution help at all?

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Simon
05-15-2006, 07:40 PM
Wow, Simo, very cool! The only thing that really bothers me is the jagginess about the eyes ~ how do you go about smoothing those thin edges in ZBrush? Does working at twice the resolution help at all?

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Yeah it needs more antialiasing. Although I'll clean that out in photoshop now as I cant be bothered to rerender. :)

Razz.. Yeah its more of a sad rage.

Cheers guys. :)

Simo

Edit: updated!

demented
05-15-2006, 07:54 PM
wow dude

really love this last one - real creepy. Thinks it needs some movement - should make it even creepier. The scenes from movies that have freaked me out the most are slow or still images - like the scene from Signs were the alien is seen at the b-day, and the seen from the new Texas Chainsaw Massacre where they freeze a frame with the leatherface dude in it. hehe - i'm blabbering again.

great work man - wanna see much more.

cheers man

- d.

Simon
05-15-2006, 09:13 PM
wow dude

really love this last one - real creepy. Thinks it needs some movement - should make it even creepier. The scenes from movies that have freaked me out the most are slow or still images - like the scene from Signs were the alien is seen at the b-day, and the seen from the new Texas Chainsaw Massacre where they freeze a frame with the leatherface dude in it. hehe - i'm blabbering again.

great work man - wanna see much more.

cheers man

- d.

Thanks. :) I was thinking of perhaps adding motionblur to the bottom jaw, but it looks a bit crazy like that so I gave up.

Has anyone got any ideas for what would make it decent enough for a gallery submission?

-Si

Rebeccak
05-15-2006, 09:39 PM
Sproth,

I think you just have to do your best and judge things by your own standards. Look at what's in the Gallery and see if your work compares to similar work. I don't validate 3D images, so I can't give you any hints there. ;) Generally speaking, do your best work! Submit, and see what happens. The only thing I can tell you is that it has to be a finished, textured model. :)

Cheers,

~Rk

Simon
05-17-2006, 06:29 PM
http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/2d/Sp/doogle16.jpg

Heres a quick concept I'm playing with for a studio I'm going to be starting work at soon. ;)

Simon
07-24-2006, 06:29 PM
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/1810/untitled18ch3.jpg

Im starting to struggle with this one. :(

Simon
07-24-2006, 07:46 PM
http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/6177/untitled20tx5.jpg

update


crits very welcomed.

Rebeccak
07-25-2006, 05:01 AM
Simo,

It's great to see you back with your fantastic, oh~so self indulgent self~portraits (kidding! kidding!) :D and of course you really blow all of us away with the realism of your pieces ~ plus there's just that manic Simo something going on behind those maniacal eyes that says:

pedosmile

LOL ~ sorry, I couldn't resist! :D

At any rate, I cannot wait to see your Tutorial, and hope that you will consider doing another ZBrush Workshop in the near future. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
07-25-2006, 12:26 PM
HEY.....Simon....GREAT TO SEE THOSE EYES....ARE BACK...:thumbsup: .....Van Gogh ...INTENSITY..:applause:

Thought that maybe the paint got the best of you....LOL.....BUT IT TAST SO GOOD ..YUMMY..:scream:

Was wondering if you have ever tried to do a self portrait, using Z BRUSH...I think it would be
great to see those eyes in motion,...from different angles.....Maybe a composite composition.
Might make a great little tutorial:shrug: ....hint....hint....:)

REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING MORE OF YOUR WORK...:bounce: :thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Simon
07-25-2006, 10:52 PM
http://www.machinestudios.co.uk/wips/sp26.jpg



Glen! hows it going! Sorry I havnt been around. using cgtalk is a real pain for me as i get the 35 second message every page. :(.


I may do a z-brush head ;)

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