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RobertoOrtiz
04-20-2006, 03:17 AM
Draw a sketch of the DAVID Sculpture by Michelangelo's
You might use ANY reference, or you might use THIS PROGRAM:

http://graphics.stanford.edu/software/scanview/

Oh and you have NO TIME LIMIT

We will try to post one of these topics once a day for your enjoyment.

These are the rules:
* Also, I will add a new voting category, called THE FASTEST DRAW.
* Post only your FINAL piece on this thread, based on the topic on the thread.
* RESOLUTION : The image can have any aspect ratio up to 800 x 600
* They can be done on any medium.
* If you wish, you can add a brief text description about your piece.
* Only original compositions. No "tributes" or plagiarizing, unless is it an integral part of the challenge.
* The topics will be posted every day between 10:00 - 12:00 am US EST.
* The artist also has to post total length of time it took (Thanks Clanger for the idea) and program used.
* Only final pieces can be posted on the thread. They must have been done AFTER the topic has been announced.
* Any piece caught breaking the rules will be taken off the thread.
* The topics will be picked at random from the list on this thread
(The author will be given credit). So guys keep them coming.
*You can add multiple entries, but please dont post WIP (Unless you intend to update them). NEW RULE!
* Ill post ANOTHER thread to quantify and track WHO has participated the most on these threads.


Good luck

-Roberto
PS To submit your topic ideas and suggestions go to this thread:
>>Link<< (http://showthread.php/?t=145003)

ClausSimonsen
04-20-2006, 07:26 AM
I don't know why, but his hand intrigued me the most. Such detail! So I did my best to capture it. 2 hrs, Painter.

EDIT: Oh shoot. It says "sketch." Hmm. Well poo. Guess that disqualifies me or somethin. Meh. :shrug:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b35/JArcand/Art/DavidHand.jpg

Oh yeah, and here's (http://cybergreg.ekoweb.hu/michelangelo-david-kez.jpg) the link to my ref.

bleumoon
04-20-2006, 10:08 AM
Wow Vizon, that's exquisite. I don't think anyone is going to knock you for not doing a "sketch" . . . well at least I won't. Based on the ref. I think your painting is dead-on. Great work :thumbsup:.

djtrousdale
04-20-2006, 11:38 AM
I didn't make this, but I thought it was great: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/31626688/

Zeitwolf
04-20-2006, 12:14 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/odinsregen/sketches/cgdsg684david.jpg
20 minutes, Photoshop, reference image (http://graphics.stanford.edu/projects/mich/replica/gray-left-profile2-cbalssh.jpg)

I don't like the head - everything about the statue is so great. I love the skin, the legs and the arms and the back... but the face is so nasty--- and when you try to draw it, giant spaces with nothing in it show up in your drawing - eg the nose and especially the cheek...

Vizon - the palette is gorgeous!

MasonRoberts
04-20-2006, 02:38 PM
Here is my go!!!

DAVID IS TAKING OVER THE CITY!!!:scream:

About 1 hour and 30 minutes!!!

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/8838/davidsketch6my.jpg

RobertoOrtiz
04-20-2006, 02:59 PM
And people dont forget

The Hardcore Modeling MINI-Challenge #1: The David (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=347627)

:)

-R

GSmiley
04-20-2006, 04:02 PM
Okay, here's mine. 2hrs, PSCS2, Intuos2 6X8, laptop.
Reference: http://faculty.evansville.edu/rl29/art105/img/michelangelo_david2.jpg

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3220/dsg684thedavid1ka.jpg

khanumnaow
04-20-2006, 04:27 PM
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1264/david2hm.jpg
30 min / photoshop / wacom/
Reference: http://propro.ru/go/Album/it/images/david.jpg


:buttrock:

SuperMuscle
04-20-2006, 06:27 PM
Ref:http://www.accd.edu/pac/humaniti/1301_tc/xornelas/david4.jpg
so boring...

ahh did not feel like finishing it...

hes so shiny..
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1017/boring5rg.png

TobyArt
04-20-2006, 06:38 PM
A little last night, a little today. Photoshop wacom/2hours Ref for statue and Michelangelo
http://www.tobyart.com/dsg/David.jpg
Not exactly how it looked in my head. Full Size (http://www.tobyart.com/dsg/davidlg.jpg)
I wonder what Michelangelo could do with a Wacom?

Runecaster
04-20-2006, 07:15 PM
The worst thing happened while I was doing this, my Photoshop hung -- this happens occasionally, anyway I hadn't yet saved the file (doh!) so I had to take a screenshot of my desktop (FYI, hit printscreen and paste into Paint) and here it is ---

Photoshop, about 20-30 minutes.

http://www.aequinox.com/paintings/david.JPG


http://www.aequinox.com/paintings/david.jpg

JTD
04-20-2006, 07:37 PM
Ironic how the computer was hung.:)

Runecaster
04-20-2006, 07:48 PM
Ironic how the computer was hung.:)


ROFL oh man, I needed that chuckle. :)

Lokiwolf
04-20-2006, 08:23 PM
Wow Zyrinx I love that your not just showing a statue that you are showing that a work of art comes from careing human hands.

jgibz
04-20-2006, 08:45 PM
http://www.unm.edu/%7Ejgibz/sketch/david.jpg
20 min , ps, wacom
oh yeah, ref is here
http://graphics.stanford.edu/projects/mich/color-david/fd35h-csh.jpg

Vahn
04-20-2006, 09:44 PM
Vizon, gsmiley ::bowdown:

ClausSimonsen
04-20-2006, 09:50 PM
Vizon, gsmiley ::bowdown:

Ha ha ha! I don't know that I should take pride in being a photocopier:shrug:, but thanks! :D

And thanks to Bleumoon and Zeitwolf too! Some days I hit it, some days I don't. But hey, I enjoy the practice either way. And I really appreciate the feedback!

cypherx
04-20-2006, 11:31 PM
Oh yeah, I'm so in. I wonder if anyone would be opposed if I went for the "realism" look, as in tried to make him look alive, or if it would offend people because it's one thing for their to be a nude statue, but it's another for it to look like a person. Either way, I'll start sketching him out right now.

sivart
04-20-2006, 11:39 PM
I just had to try out this ArtRage program. Still a bit tough to control the digital paint...

ArtRage 2 + PS + Wacom + ~1 hour

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/6959/david7yn.png


Reference Image (http://www.wmich.edu/%7Eemrl/vt/pics/michelangelo_david_detail.jpg)

ChimpanG
04-21-2006, 01:10 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/ghlpics/bah.jpg
no real ref gazed at some google stuff every now and then.
its 2am, took about 35 mins
second daily sketch ever (im pretty sure, definately under 5th) :)

cypherx
04-21-2006, 01:36 AM
I know we're not supposed to post work in progress stuff, but the tornado sirens keep going off, and I don't know if I'll be able to finish this tonight. The irony there is last time when a tornado actually did hit my house, the sirens didn't even go off. Guess they're being extra careful this time.

http://direwire.com/images/david_MBwip.jpg

jmBoekestein
04-21-2006, 01:52 AM
GSmiley Fantastic rendering man... the colour contrast pop like nothing I've seen!!! Hat's sweep the floor!


Good luck Jennifer... hope your town doesn't get struck. :surprised

Hamilcar
04-21-2006, 02:14 AM
sivart: I really like the brushwork on this one! nicely done. My only comment would be to work on the likeness a bit more, but if you don't care about that then its great as is.

Ok here is mine...markers..time taken not sure?

http://stickman3d.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/CAsketchbook/Face_David_01.jpg

sivart
04-21-2006, 02:29 AM
sivart: I really like the brushwork on this one! nicely done. My only comment would be to work on the likeness a bit more, but if you don't care about that then its great as is.

Thanks! I very much agree with you about the likeness. That ArtRage program is great for simulating paint and makes that brush stroke look really easy, but of course I have so little practice with it that I have trouble controlling the form still.

Perhaps I will try another one tonight...

Edit:

Here we go, quite a bit more like David this time... though he seems angry now. Perhaps because I made him look twelve years old last time. :D

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/9071/david20zc.jpg

Reference Image (http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20050221/gallery/davidface_zoom.jpg)

embryotic
04-21-2006, 07:29 AM
I really liked this topic - with great ref and an open time limit - I like my sketch too!

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/4081/michealsdavid8em.jpg

2 hours PS wacom tried to spend more time on the proportions before starting to render

Vizion + GSmiley - I really like the colours that you put in those - really nice

Cypherx - WOW youre a pro - I love that youve rendered him like that - its like he fully exists now! - and good luck with that tornado!

Runecaster
04-21-2006, 12:16 PM
Cypherx, wow! I think it looks amazing to make him look alive!!

I find it endlessly amusing that the sculpture artists gave their men penises the size of children.

Of course, it was considered pornographic back then, if I remember correctly, so they wanted to idealize I guess... but teensy weensy? It looks ridiculous.


Then again, I suppose if it was regular sized, we'd just stare at that....


I know I would.


HAHA!

njo
04-21-2006, 12:39 PM
its his eye :)
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2509/david27wr.jpg

GSmiley
04-21-2006, 03:26 PM
jmBoekestein, Vahn, digital_embryo: thank you very much!

Here's some more comments and critiques I have, back by popular demand. There weren't as many posts on this one, you guys are making too easy on me!

Vizon: I don't know what brushes you used in Painter, but you have achieved a very slick and realistic look to the paint. It reminds me of real oil pastels, not crummy computer simulated oil pastels. Anyways, I like it. I kind of feel the same way about photocopying, but the colors you used look more dynamic then they were in reference, so its good you achieved something original. And don't worry about it not being a sketch...
Zeitwolf: I like the pencil sketch style of yours. It shows that you took the time to actually understand the forms instead of just copying the reference. The eye in particular looks very well done. And yes, he does have a funny look to him. All of Michelangelo's people look the same way to me (including the women). Its very renaissancey!
Mason Roberts: Kudos to you. I would have never thought of having explosions and mayhem with the sculpture. I like the perspective you were using to make it more dramatic. I don't know if the reference you used was like that, or even if you used a reference image, but I like it!
GSmiley: What's with the skin tone? You made the greatest king of Israel look like a corpse! And at his greatest moment, nonetheless! Have you no shame?
khanumnaow: The face and likeness looks good in yours. Some things are a little blurry, which I think would look better with harder edges, like the legs. But for only a half hour, I think you did a very good job!
SuperMuscle: Wow, shiny! I have never seen anything on my monitor so bright and blinding. It sounds like you have your own problems with it though, since you said it was boring.
Zyrinx: Congratulations on the most original concept! Its really cool, but I think it would look better if there was a darker color in the background. The statue and Michelangelo get lost because everything looks too light. More contrast would really help. I also like the textures for the ground and trees. I don't know if Michelangelo would have taken to our technology, but Da Vinci an the other hand...
LabyrinthineMind: That sucks that photoshop hung on you, but you'r lucky that PrtSc still worked. When a program gets hung for me, I can't get screen captures anymore. I realize it probably isn't finished, but again I think more contrast would improve the sketch. Just some darker background color.
jgibz: It looks like you only loosely followed your reference pic! Good ol' Dave is looking pretty good in his polka dotted boxers. I like the comb-over hairdo and rabbit ear antenna.
sivart: Good luck with the Artrage, I know I can't handle it. For the first one, nice quick strokes for the hair, but I agree the likeness is off. Like you said, he looks twelve and scared. The second one is much nicer, but doesn't have the right expression. It's a very subtle &quot;concerned. but confident and powerful&quot; expression that I guess you need to be a master to achieve. It is a very good one, you should keep it up!
GLandolina: For your second Daily Sketch ever, it is not bad at all! The only criticism i have is the same for a few others on this topic, which is there is not enough color contrast. If the background and foreground were more separated, the face would stand out more and look more impressive.
cypherx: I don't think anyone will get upset if you make him appear real. This is an art forum, so i doubt there is any problem. As long as you don't send a live naked dude into my apartment, I'm fine. The colors look great and I think you got the expression down better than most. I hope this potential tornado you speak of didn't materialize!
Ham-e: The line art you've made looks good. The expresssion is good, which i guess is an advantage of focusing only on the head instead of the whole body. Good work!
digital_embryo: I like how it looks like you have painted the sculpture as being made out of a different material. It looks much shinier and more metallic. I tried to do the same thing. The proportions look very close to the actual proportions, which is nice.
njo: Sometimes it is good to focus on one small thing. The eyes on David have such an elegant shape, and you have made this one look right. Great work! Next time you post a sketch though, add what program you used and how long it took.

cypherx
04-21-2006, 04:13 PM
I can't believe I just typed all of that and it was lost when I hit submit!

Yes, I survived the storm... yay, I live to see another day.

GSmiley, I think I speak for everyone here when I say this, thanks for actually taking the time to think about your response to each person. I for one appreciate it. And I can't promise anything, but I'll try not sending the nudists your way!

haha Laby, hopefully I won't get into trouble for saying this, but I had considered giving him a proper member, poor brave David, lacking in manhood. Ahhhh well, at least he's pretty to look at.

Thank you, D. Embryo, I think I'll try to make him even more realistic tonight if possible.

Runecaster
04-21-2006, 04:30 PM
^^^ Cypherx, now that is something I'd like to see :) hehe o.o


GSmiley: I was going to PM you, then I realized whatever responses I get will probably help others, so.... on with my question:

Contrast. The Bane of ME. My drawing teacher tells me the same thing. I wonder if its my problem with seeing appropriate values? Or is this just something we must teach ourselves?

I remember being told once that black should /never/ be used in painting unless cartoons/graphics - so I think I'm dark-shy. I don't know.... at least in sketching. When doing something longer I always try and pay attention --

But, basically, how do we train ourselves to see/add more contrast?

I can use all the help I can get :D

Hamilcar
04-21-2006, 04:59 PM
hey Gsmiley: I like your painting its a good piece! And Thanks for the comments on mine, much apreciated. This was realy just a study as I'm doing the David modeling challenge.
As far as commenting on your piece the anatomy is a little off, like the pecs for example, but as I said your painting is good and this is a masterpiece and a master that we are comparing ourselves to.

...oh ya your self critique was a highlight as usual:applause:

TobyArt
04-21-2006, 05:37 PM
Thought a couple touch up. should have been fairly easy but I didn't save with layers. grr
http://www.tobyart.com/dsg/David2.jpg
I've never done anything with this kind of look so please feel free to crit

GSmiley
04-21-2006, 08:03 PM
But, basically, how do we train ourselves to see/add more contrast?

I can use all the help I can get :D

I'm no expert by any means, but I'll try to help as much as I can.
I would bet almost every artist has contrast problems that they need to overcome before they start making great work. It probably come from learning to draw with pencils, where dark colors are hard to achieve. I used to make what I thought were beautiful pencil drawings, but when I showed other people, they said they couldn't see the details I put in. It was definitely a problem for me until I started oil painting. With paint, it becomes a lot faster and easier to get both very light and very dark colors.

Digital paint is even faster and easier, but if you aren't used to it, it can seem hard to get good values. What I always do when I start a digital painting is cover the entire canvas with a very dark background color. Your right to not use black, but very close is okay. Then I block in what i want to be the lightest highlights, but I make sure not to cover up all the color. You can see on most of my digital sketches that there is a base dark color that shows up in less detailed areas. If you just practice using very light colors along with very dark colors, you will become more comfortable with them.

Another thing you can do is find a speed paint that you think has good colors/contrast, and use the same colors to make the image you want. You don't need to use the same subject or composition, just colors.

I hope that helps a little.

DeeVad
04-21-2006, 10:45 PM
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9291/dskdavidmichaelangelonet7nn.jpg
PS : 40 min

RobertoOrtiz says :
or you might use THIS PROGRAM: http://graphics.stanford.edu/software/scanview/

Thanks man, I think I start to fall in love for this program ( scanview ) .

Runecaster
04-21-2006, 10:51 PM
Thank you GSmiley - I've been battling with this problem in more than just the DSG :)

I can only hope that with practice, I can overcome this obstacle :) Thanks again!

mybutterflyiris
04-23-2006, 08:32 PM
I remember being told once that black should /never/ be used in painting unless cartoons/graphics - so I think I'm dark-shy. I don't know.... at least in sketching. When doing something longer I always try and pay attention --



same here... evil scary dark colors...

my attempt..about an hour in ps...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/mightyevilbunny/david.jpg

Veehoy
04-23-2006, 10:22 PM
Been a looooong time since my last post i the Daily Sketch Forum ( and that was only a couple of times). Gonna try to be more of a frequenter this time. :)

My humble attempt ......hour and a half in PS.....

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/8030/david8al.jpg

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