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MystAvalon
04-16-2006, 04:49 AM
I am new to matte painting and this is my second try, first one this big and complicated.
I wanted to show some of the mystic qualities of the Irish countryside. I used photos plus painted and worked with it in Photoshop. My pic is at:

http://mystavalon.cgsociety.org/gallery/346388/ (http://mystavalon.cgsociety.org/gallery/346388/)

The photos I used are at this link:

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8820/twinpeakphotos3jt.jpg (http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8820/twinpeakphotos3jt.jpg)

Any comments would be appreciated. Thank you,
Kelly

aviator88
04-16-2006, 04:55 AM
Wow, i like the mood in that painting.

I think you did a great job!

Take Care.

Steve.

MystAvalon
04-16-2006, 05:02 AM
Hey, thanks for the nice surprise, Steve. I appreciate the nice comments,
Thank you,
Kelly

paconavarro
04-16-2006, 06:02 AM
Ok I think we have several problems here, and I must say Im not a mattepainter, but let me point out the ones that are not linked to technique.I dont want to sound rude, but Im just giving you the points wich I see must be corrected in a very straight way without bla bla bla.

The composition of the image is boring, having twin peaks doesnt meanst to put them in the middle of your image, this is too plain for the eye, no focal point.

The perspective for the stones is completelly off, look the vanishing point of the river and the one in the stones, they are off.

The shadows in the stones are completelly different the ones in the right seem to have a light on the top, and you have light comming from the right. In the stones on the right you have no aparent light source and still a burned shadow like area towards the camera.

The smoke its not working, looks like cigarette smoke more than mist or fog.

Theres no color shifting in the farther objects.

There are no interesting light contrasts in the image.

The scale of the plants in the foreground and the ones in the middleground is strange, you dont see a progessive change, there are some evident image borders in the whole image.

I know youre starting in this, so give it another try with the same theme, try making a more dynamic image, with more visual richness, check out THIS LINK (http://www.wetcanvas.com/Articles2/135/120/index.php) Jaime posted for a very interesting guides on landscape painting.

Keep working on.

JIII
04-16-2006, 01:30 PM
I agree with the guy above me, work on transitioning, and work on overall composition. Also, if you want fog, make sure you make it in horizontal layers. Smoke travels vertically, because fog is related to humidity, moisture and temperature, it is found most often in layers, not in one vertical line, as you have it. Also, consider the size and placement of those two stone objects, the one in the foreground is so large it throws almost everything out of alignment. It's a good start, but really focus on perspective, alignment, composition, and painting in the transitions.

-J3

MystAvalon
04-16-2006, 07:24 PM
Thank you both for all of the tips and info. I'll work on it and try to make those improvements as time permits,

Thank you,
Kelly

JJASSO
04-16-2006, 09:18 PM
MystAvalon : I completly agree with the other comments. try not to work in a symetrical way, always start throwing perspective lines , so you can work in an accurate linear way, for depth, if your're going to keep this twin peaks idea, try changing the camera angle the way we see it so they don't look too twin or cloned,

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