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killermachine
04-15-2006, 06:03 AM
since i didnt saw any thread related to manga drawings i thought i'd start 1.put ur skecthes an ideas on manga art an figurative drawings here

killermachine
04-15-2006, 06:14 AM
here is my cketch to give this thread a headstart.its a model in a fusion of tradional indian dress wid modern style

calisto-lynn
05-08-2006, 06:22 PM
wow this is very interesting, i hope there is more threads like this on cgtalk, with tips how to draw manga and such, its much easier to draw when someone gives you usefull critique than doing it all alone.

nice sketch!! i may put one as well soon^^

Rebeccak
05-08-2006, 06:33 PM
killermachine,

My apologies, as I did not see your earlier post. :)

I am personally not an expert by any means on manga. However, the Art Theories and Techniques Forum is more likely to have manga threads. Here is a search (http://forums.cgsociety.org/search.php?searchid=3872033) I ran there for manga.

Personally, I think it's better to draw realistically and learn real anatomy first. But that's just my opinion.

EDIT: I'd be more than happy if someone with expertise were to step forward and offer assistance, however. :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

amfantasy
05-25-2006, 02:25 AM
I would love to see more manga and anime and a toon shader but alot of people don't share our interest.........
there has been several tries, but the user usually ends up flamed

DigitalSol
05-25-2006, 02:53 AM
Lately, I haven't done manga, but here is my contribution, these are some old, will scann some new ones soon.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/1manga.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/3manga.jpg

I love this thread too:D

Xion-Cajou
05-25-2006, 03:42 AM
Props to killermachine for starting a Manga thread:thumbsup:
Manga to me seems like a very optimised form of stylization, as proportions and forms are in one way very different from nature, like huge eyes, thick hair, the typical tapered chin etc., but in another way look very natural and alive.
Good Manga means everything is based on the basic essentials, and anime normally gets away with a minimum of animation, but is very stylish at the same time.
This render is about 2 years old... if it isnt for animation, its better to draw Manga i think... toonshaders often render slow and its difficult to make it look good from every perspective... but since i watched Appleseed, i know ill give it another try someday.

http://people.freenet.de/XionCajou/myu07.jpg

DigitalSol
05-25-2006, 03:40 PM
Hope u like it
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/2manga.jpg

Rebeccak
05-25-2006, 07:34 PM
If someone (Enrique) ;) were to potentially run a Manga Workshop here on the Forum, what would you guys like to see?

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

amfantasy
05-25-2006, 09:11 PM
a gallery to post work :)

edit:and a W.I.P. Section :D

Rebeccak
05-25-2006, 09:21 PM
amfantasy,

There's really no need for a separate Gallery / WIP Forum, as there are already Gallery and WIP 2D Forums which are for any kind of 2D Art. :)

A Workshop thread, however, would be exclusively for Manga Artwork, and later the best work could be showcased in the SPOTLIGHT forum. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

amfantasy
05-25-2006, 09:26 PM
Sorry about that, I've never been to the 2d wip forums, and I like what your suggesting

funkdaddy
05-31-2006, 08:47 AM
Very nice work DigitaSol:thumbsup: Im a Manga fan too but now i preffer drawing in a more evolved form of Mnaga rather than the traditional saucer eyed characters. I also agree with Rebecca partially that one should learn the basics of figure drawing and anatomy. When i say "partially", i mean not all the artists express their ideas in their art which cares much about the anatomical or proportional nitty gritties. I have learnt that art i a free form of personal expression and we choose oru way. If one feels a need to study extensively about human or animal forms than its good cause probably that supports his/her idea of expression. But it aint a thumb rule. I personaly like to study human figure n anatomy.

Ahh..alas.. if u guys wanna check some of my work then visit photobucket.com and search for duce_supanova.

cheers!

killermachine
05-31-2006, 12:24 PM
i got the mail today that the thread took off.it is a very late msg to thank everyone who took interest in my thread.rebeccak im in art student so i'v learned standard human anatomy before movin to manga,i learned manga all by my self,im self taught in it.i'l put up links and all where people can get tutorials for manga an all this stuff.i'l put my next sketch very soon.i'l color them now as i'v got my graphic tablet yay
nice work digital sol.
more extensive discussions are very welcomed as well as workshops by experts

cheers people

DigitalSol
05-31-2006, 05:58 PM
Hello, I agree, the manga is an stylization of the human body, so you can't just jump into the manga style without have the base of the real human anatomy, as a fact i try to divide my time among 50% real drawings and paintings and 50% for manga and other things, I have planned with Becca run a manga workshop, Im planning how it should be, think that some of real anatomy will be necessary, maybe a comparisson between the 2 forms, some of anatomy canons, construction of the face, the hair, the eyes, inner structure, geometrization, and some basic consepts, if you people have some ideas about what it should content please tell me here or PM me, thanks to both for your opinion about my work.

killermachine
05-31-2006, 06:04 PM
i think people need to know what seperates manga from normal art i.e. difference in proportion, hair ,loudness of expression and all that.incorporating them would be very useful i think...

DigitalSol
05-31-2006, 06:07 PM
That is the idea of making the comparisson between the 2 styles, maybe I can show it in anatomic comparissons, what you think?

EDIT: BTW thanks for the quick reply.

killermachine
05-31-2006, 06:11 PM
i was sayin the same enrique.thats the most baisc thing people need to know.being a stylized form of art if a person doesnt know its thumb rules,he cant progress.anatomic comparison would be the best way to start.u can contact me by msn and yahoo.so please do if u want to discuss anythin in real time...

DigitalSol
05-31-2006, 06:25 PM
Sure I will, soon as i get a messenger account lol, thanks a lot.

killermachine
05-31-2006, 08:11 PM
2nd thing important after anatomy is expression.manga uses expressions to their highest capabilities.i cant use them properly till now.lol.but im improvin.so dont forget them too.

DigitalSol
05-31-2006, 10:31 PM
OK k.m., these are the answers that Im looking for:), thank you so much for being so cooperative, I will keep in mind all these things, but I think that the manga workshop will take some time, because I wanna do original material for all the workshop, and I want to do a good one, thanks see ya.

killermachine
06-01-2006, 06:18 AM
ok digi i'l b eagerly waiting for ur workshop:scream: ...... and all those who are interested to share their knowledge on manga or for that mattr their artworks in manga can put up here.it has bcome quite cosy friendly place now.lol:bounce: :buttrock:

Sk3tcher
06-01-2006, 12:53 PM
okay i post some of my sketches now ;)

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6749/drachekopie6xc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/5107/cyborgcopy8bq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3092/drache19bw.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6561/elfe3ro.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/4341/typ5md.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


and a little sculpture done in shool ;)

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2048/kunstkopf17si.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

killermachine
06-03-2006, 03:00 AM
ur colors are nice bro ,i guess i need to work more on pencils as your lines dont look that confident.there is comthin about the girl that is bothering.lol wat was the project topic for that sculpture :twisted:

Pinoy McGee
06-03-2006, 04:00 AM
What's a manga thread without mechas.

Here's one:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Flipmcgee/battroid_mcgee03.jpg

killermachine
06-03-2006, 04:03 AM
good effort pinoy and u said right,a manga thread is incomplate without mech's i'l post 1 too now.but dont u think in ur work geometry of the mech suffered in creating the pose??i think so at someplaces but thats just me

Pinoy McGee
06-03-2006, 04:24 AM
You're right with your observation killermachine.

If you try this pose on a toy you'll likely break a piece. It's one of the challenges I think in manga design. When to exaggerate and when to draw a character or robot as one would expect in reality (form following function?).

Let's be inspired by Shirow sensei.

http://www.takotech.net/mshd/shirow/img/landmatebw.jpg

Sk3tcher
06-03-2006, 09:28 PM
Quote:
killermachine : ur colors are nice bro ,i guess i need to work more on pencils as your lines dont look that confident.there is comthin about the girl that is bothering.lol wat was the project topic for that sculpture :twisted:


thanks dude ;) this paintings a about a year old. I'm not painting mangas anymore.
the topic at shool was " Human Lifes" we had to create a story for this had too. it was something like robocop ;)

killermachine
06-04-2006, 06:56 PM
going by pinoy's idea i deciede to ink a mech i did as an upgradation of my previous version.hope u lik the design........
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/a2.gif

sorry for bad lines..its been only a week since i got my tablet you see:arteest:
pinoy can u gimme links from where u had found that image of mr.shirow :D

Sk3tcher
06-05-2006, 08:58 AM
hi killermachine i like the design but i think your mecha would fall down because the upper area is to much on the left. (the mass centre is not in the middle)

killermachine
06-06-2006, 07:15 AM
hey nice of u notice that.i hadnt noticed that my side view would confuse u people.any ways the tail is only to balance its fast movement.its not in active mode in which its shell moves a bit forward an more heavy arms appear in front stabilising it.i'l dispel this confusion soon by producting its active an front view.
peace!

Lute
06-08-2006, 02:07 AM
hmm.. :3
well before i had my uh...epiphany..this is what i did :3

i havent drawn anything new in a while.. :3

here we gooo
http://indigodreams.kuiki.net/Gallery/snow.jpg
http://indigodreams.kuiki.net/Gallery/peacock.jpg
http://indigodreams.kuiki.net/Gallery/doll.jpg
http://indigodreams.kuiki.net/Gallery/al_rose.jpg
http://indigodreams.kuiki.net/Gallery/candygirl.jpg
i think i blew my arsenal
*faints*

Pinoy McGee
06-09-2006, 12:13 AM
pinoy can u gimme links from where u had found that image of mr.shirow :D

Interesting design you have there. With your new tablet you'll be sketching mechs left and right in now time! :thumbsup:

Just google image "shirow" and go to the source sites that interests you. Tons out there.

Good effort here Lute.

killermachine
06-09-2006, 06:10 AM
thanks pinoy for the ref im colorin this mech i'l put it up soon.i jus got few dvds lik ghost in the shell episodes and collectors edition dvd of appleseed so now i have quite good data of masumure shirow
lute your ideas are good but as you said these are old sketches so i dont no how much has your anatomy improved as it looks weak here...

killermachine
06-09-2006, 06:45 AM
my colored and active version ,3/4th comin soon:buttrock:
colored art-
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/a-2.gif
line art-
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/a2.gif
im not done with coloring....

Rudeone
06-09-2006, 01:46 PM
My work has always been heavily influenced by manga.
I love manga and anime and I'm the type of geek that used to collect anime figurines and builds anime model-kits :p I said used to cause about 2 years ago my addiction of collecting figurines and action figures changed into collecting Urban Vinyl (very rare art/designer toys heavily influenced by the graffiti scene) although I just received model-kits from Guilty Gear's Baiken and some cool cyberpunk chick (just had to have those :D ).
Anywho, like I said manga has always been a great inspiration for me but at one point I realised I was limiting myself and that I needed to focus on traditional life and figure drawing, although I've had experience in this field and my skills were still growing I did felt stuck at one point.
So I would like to advise people to not just draw manga only, but learn traditional life and figure drawing first, you have to understand the basics in order to grow in your work and be succesfull.

Some of my manga stuff:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/rudeone/gunslingergirl2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/rudeone/wings2.jpg

killermachine
06-10-2006, 06:19 AM
nice artwork rude one.i agree with you out and out.without actual knowledge of figurative art you wont know how to stlylise it..

DigitalSol
06-13-2006, 06:34 PM
Hello every one, nice work there rudeone, I like the way you stylize and construct the figures, really nice, here is something that im working, I have lots of things in my mind so havent be able to post the workshop, but here is something quick, graet work every one.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/michelle.jpg

Lute
06-14-2006, 03:15 AM
thanks pinoy for the ref im colorin this mech i'l put it up soon.i jus got few dvds lik ghost in the shell episodes and collectors edition dvd of appleseed so now i have quite good data of masumure shirow
lute your ideas are good but as you said these are old sketches so i dont no how much has your anatomy improved as it looks weak here...

^^;; sadly...i havent really drawn anything original... because realizing.. i could never be able to fully express myself... with out increasing my knowledge in anatomy and other things.. and also.. my obsession being able to illustrate the idea.. well.. but then .hating the end result..and saying to myself "i can do way way better than this"

killermachine
06-14-2006, 11:21 AM
nice ink digi sol.so wen wil u show the colored 1.im waitin for your workshop:scream:



lute we all go thru that once in a while.u'l improve alrite jus don give it up:thumbsup:

DigitalSol
06-14-2006, 03:31 PM
I always start with a tonal valoration, generally, for my stylized characters I do this on the paper, as a reference for painting directly with color, but this time I start directly in PS, so Im working on the reference.
:wip:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/closeup.jpg

Thanks for your coments Killer machine, hope we can start that workshop soon see ya.

thondal
06-14-2006, 03:44 PM
i haven't drawn manga since I was 14, but I really want to start again.. by the way, really good tutorials on
http://www.howtodrawmanga.com/tutorial.html

-thondal-

Lute
06-14-2006, 03:47 PM
thank you for the vote of confidence.. and i just love that picture.. the color scheme reminds me of another japanese artist works.. i just dont remeber his name right more.. :3

:) i hope to see more.. ^_^

TOLEDO
06-16-2006, 07:25 AM
Hi CGTalkers!

I came here under request of killermachine man here to give my contribution drop. I have 10 years of Manga teaching experience and I’ll be glad if you let me share what I know.

First of all, learn the basics is a MUST. This mean, you must learn human figure, perspective, light and all that stuff before think in do anything related to graphic arts. There is no discussion here and I think every pro will agree with this (off course, there's always exceptions).
Second, it is necessary to demystify the concept of Manga.
Manga basically means Comic, and that it is, but with the Japanese style.
The issue about big eyes and exaggerated expressions comes from Disney… if you didn’t noticed, they have big eyes and exaggerated expressions too, and if you make the exercise to compare Felix the Cat, Mickey Mouse and Astro boy… you’ll find they’re practically the same.
Third, I do not recommend any of the “how to draw manga” books for a start, because the major part of them is done by fans who didn’t really know what they were doing, and 70% of the material treated is useless even for the beginners.

The first task for the CGTalkers interested in learn a little bit from me could be to draw a man and a woman naked, separated, in action but not interaction.

Thanks for the invitation and sorry for the late.

Paulo

killermachine
06-16-2006, 12:16 PM
thanks for dropping by toledo and double thanks for your interest.i wanted to ask how do v hav to show these characters(man/woman u told us to draw) here on post or should we mail u??also i wanted to ask was do we hav to draw them manga style or normal way,i guess clearing up these two questions wil help...:)

also thnx for taking this out of my head that how to draw manga arnt the best books for these,well this raises another question....which is/are the best books for manga.i have 1 by jared hodges & linsay cibos(ilex-press) and another 1 by estudio joso(collins designs)

Lute
06-16-2006, 02:42 PM
Hi CGTalkers!

I came here under request of killermachine man here to give my contribution drop. I have 10 years of Manga teaching experience and I’ll be glad if you let me share what I know.

First of all, learn the basics is a MUST. This mean, you must learn human figure, perspective, light and all that stuff before think in do anything related to graphic arts. There is no discussion here and I think every pro will agree with this (off course, there's always exceptions).
Second, it is necessary to demystify the concept of Manga.
Manga basically means Comic, and that it is, but with the Japanese style.
The issue about big eyes and exaggerated expressions comes from Disney… if you didn’t noticed, they have big eyes and exaggerated expressions too, and if you make the exercise to compare Felix the Cat, Mickey Mouse and Astro boy… you’ll find they’re practically the same.
Third, I do not recommend any of the “how to draw manga” books for a start, because the major part of them is done by fans who didn’t really know what they were doing, and 70% of the material treated is useless even for the beginners.

The first task for the CGTalkers interested in learn a little bit from me could be to draw a man and a woman naked, separated, in action but not interaction.

Thanks for the invitation and sorry for the late.

Paulo


Even I agree with you 99.9%. I kinda would have to disagree about manga.. just only being japanese inspired. Yes, the japanese word of "manga" . In english translation means purely comic book. So that would mean. a kid from japan. could be reading any type of comic book all over the world. Would technically refer to it as a manga.
But we as "americans" I dont know how its generalized in the other countries. we put the stigmata of "japanese" style to the word . The word should just be simply generalized, but specified from where the comic comes from. I do hope that make sense, my grammer isnt so good.

But. about what your talking about. when someone posted about the "how to draw manga" I kinda cringed. I should've spoke out. about the books. Im not knocking down the books. because even before it even became a book. When I really started getting into drawing, it was those type of threads and websites I was checking out cause I was so simply inspired.
On the "style".
But like you said before, all form of artists have to learn the basic principles. In order to be able to express their own ideas on paper. Weather (sp?) it is comics, illustration, sculpture., 3D, video gamming design. Any form of art that uses the human body or animal as the subject.

Killermachine: I know you want to draw comic books and create beautiful artwork. I dont think you should waste your money on those type of books. and besides comic books, are very stylized (sp?) The change as quickly as the moving tide. Invest in good anatomy books. The anatomy,perspective, light and color never changes, unlesss some wierd cosmic thingie happens and we evolve (scary).
In the end when you want to show off your stuff, if you dont have your foundations down (anatomy,perspective, blah blah) Its going to show through.

Just like Toledo said, everyone has got to work on the foundations. Once you have your foundations, your own style will come through.

So toledo :3 im glad you posted in this thread, cause i do share your belief, very greatly.

Lute
06-16-2006, 03:13 PM
ooh yeah.. i checked out your gallery. Your fairy picture is sooooooooooooooooooo beautiful :3
Just seeing work like that validates why, I love art so much :3

Also I realized something from the other thread I wrote. An artist "style" is a reflection of oneself.
Even though when people see beautiful artwork. When they want to learn, I think one is mostly focused on learning the style..rather than the foundations of the picture. Which can cause a great confliction.
Yes, style can be mimiced but it means nothing when you dont know the reasons or have the foundations for it to come through.
just a thought :3
but yeah, it would be an honor to learn from you. So Im all ears.

killermachine
06-16-2006, 04:23 PM
hey lute,just cause i said i hav those books doesnt mean i dont hav other books.i got some really cool books on anatomy and figure drawing from imgination,than i got books excripts of andrew loomis an burn hubbert(correct me for wrong spellings).i bought those books so as to understand the way things work in manga.wats the thinking wen an artist draws in it,wat kind of char are thot in manga and all that.so lute though i spent a good amount on these books but they came after my basic anatomy library had been establised for work :twisted:
i don like to keep loose ends in watever level of work i know,so i practise real hard on basics here see :)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/P1000042.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/P1000044.jpg
ps:in 2nd 1 look only at the above part :hmm:
though they are not that good but thats only because i resumed their practise some time back only:D so its an effort right now

Lute
06-16-2006, 04:36 PM
hey lute,just cause i said i hav those books doesnt mean i dont hav other books.i got some really cool books on anatomy and figure drawing from imgination,than i got books excripts of andrew loomis an burn hubbert(correct me for wrong spellings).i bought those books so as to understand the way things work in manga.wats the thinking wen an artist draws in it,wat kind of char are thot in manga and all that.so lute though i spent a good amount on these books but they came after my basic anatomy library had been establised for work :twisted:
i don like to keep loose ends in watever level of work i know,so i practise real hard on basics here see :)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/P1000042.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/P1000044.jpg
ps:in 2nd 1 look only at the above part :hmm:
though they are not that good but thats only because i resumed their practise some time back only:D so its an effort right now

Well how come u didnt say that, in your previous post.*smiles* "Hmm i probably misread or understood something.

I apologizie for assuming, and had no intention of over looking your words either. But its great your dedicating your time and energy. It really shows through your work. I do hope to see more of your work.
Its hard to keep a balance, practicing and trying to create your own stuff

*sighs softly* oh well...

TOLEDO
06-16-2006, 04:59 PM
Well, all around the world, comic has different names, i.e. in Spain is called Tebeo, in some south American countries is called Historieta, in France is Bande Dessinee (some one help me with my french) and go on and on. Everyone have different styles, due point of views, political situation, etc. So manga is, and implies, Japanese style comic.

About the task… well, could be nice to post everything here, so we can all share the experience and evaluate each other works. And the style, desen’t matter now, just draw as you usually do.

Maybe we will need a little bit of organization here, and a lot of feedback, if not, this thread will die soon.

Post!
:buttrock:

Lute
06-16-2006, 05:11 PM
Well, all around the world, comic has different names, i.e. in Spain is called Tebeo, in some south American countries is called Historieta, in France is Bande Dessinee (some one help me with my french) and go on and on. Everyone have different styles, due point of views, political situation, etc. So manga is, and implies, Japanese style comic.

About the task… well, could be nice to post everything here, so we can all share the experience and evaluate each other works. And the style, desen’t matter now, just draw as you usually do.

Maybe we will need a little bit of organization here, and a lot of feedback, if not, this thread will die soon.

Post!
:buttrock:

Hmm... I never knew about that. Well that just put a new wrinkle in my brain. Thank you :3
About where the direction of the thread may be going. Im not sure, almost everyone has an anatomy thread. and others participate in some of the activities. But like you said before, everything starts with the basics. And if we all improve on that, then we can go onto new and more complex things.

*thinks very hard* this is gonna be a toughie

killermachine
06-16-2006, 05:13 PM
aaargh!! i dont want this thread to die.its the only thread where i can think puttin my work,at other threads an gallery stuff is jaw dropping,wonder when i'l do that kind of stuff:shrug:
anyways i'l put up my sketches soon toledo
hey i didnt knew that comics are known by so many names.here they are just plain comics:thumbsup:
ya lute its hard balancin them and i didnt mentioned those books cause i was talkin bout manga only there so...
POST STUFF PEOPLE:bounce: :buttrock:

Lute
06-16-2006, 05:24 PM
aaargh!! i dont want this thread to die.its the only thread where i can think puttin my work,at other threads an gallery stuff is jaw dropping,wonder when i'l do that kind of stuff:shrug:
anyways i'l put up my sketches soon toledo
hey i didnt knew that comics are known by so many names.here they are just plain comics:thumbsup:
ya lute its hard balancin them and i didnt mentioned those books cause i was talkin bout manga only there so...
POST STUFF PEOPLE:bounce: :buttrock:

the post can be moved.... to where it can serve a better purpose. and have more acesss.
just a thought.

so..what topics could we adress in this thread. is it more tutorial based....adviced based. ...
or certain topics..like creating, inking,enviroments,story telling.. blah blah blah

killermachine
06-16-2006, 05:36 PM
i lik your idea of movin this thread to a better position.lets see if mods hav read this..

and since i had started this thread because no other thread covered manga specifically so we can do posting our stuff here,which can b commented by others;people who are gud in this can post link or better post their tutorials here.i don want it to b a narrow lane but a highway of information on anythin thats related to manga... lets hope we can generate more interest in people..
in short everything is invited as long as its manga and as long it makes sense:rolleyes:

by the way i was just wonderin if the mods can help us in popularising this thread:applause:

DigitalSol
06-16-2006, 05:36 PM
This is sketch some quite old, about 3 years ago, Im at work right now, soon as I will be at home ill post some recent, I promess.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Nia-ninja.jpg

sturmkim
06-16-2006, 05:40 PM
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/sturmkim/concept/redeye.jpg
here is mine...

DigitalSol
06-16-2006, 05:46 PM
Don't let this thread dies guys, I think this is the only manga thread atr CG talk, post more images, the manga workshop from me will come next week :D.

sturmkim, well done dude :thumbsup:, is it photoshop?

sturmkim
06-16-2006, 06:01 PM
sturmkim, well done dude :thumbsup:, is it photoshop?
Thanks and yes..

waiting your workshop.

killermachine
06-17-2006, 04:06 PM
ok people ,im going for a so-called vacation for a week,so toledo an digital sol will handle this thread.ppl please post stuff an tutorials.here's one link im putting up for anyone interested for tutorial.
http://wdreams.fateback.com/Stuff.htm
b ready for the rain of designs wen i come bak
peace..:thumbsup:

aLoneCuzzo
06-23-2006, 09:50 PM
haha! wow I didn't even know there were people who really liked anime/ manga on cgtalk... kick ass...

I'll def post/ subscibe to this!

aLoneCuzzo
06-23-2006, 09:52 PM
My work has always been heavily influenced by manga.
I love manga and anime and I'm the type of geek that used to collect anime figurines and builds anime model-kits :p I said used to cause about 2 years ago my addiction of collecting figurines and action figures changed into collecting Urban Vinyl (very rare art/designer toys heavily influenced by the graffiti scene) although I just received model-kits from Guilty Gear's Baiken and some cool cyberpunk chick (just had to have those :D ).
Anywho, like I said manga has always been a great inspiration for me but at one point I realised I was limiting myself and that I needed to focus on traditional life and figure drawing, although I've had experience in this field and my skills were still growing I did felt stuck at one point.
So I would like to advise people to not just draw manga only, but learn traditional life and figure drawing first, you have to understand the basics in order to grow in your work and be succesfull.

Some of my manga stuff:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/rudeone/gunslingergirl2.jpg



This picture is SICK. I love your style.

killermachine
06-27-2006, 04:58 AM
hey ppl ..there hasnt been much of a progress here....enrique when wil your ur workshop be ready bro...anyways here 's one of the sketches i had made somtime back.its line art is not very strong as i was a total noob den but my idea was still convincing enough(at least for me:D )....
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/angela.jpg
and this a more recent 1....
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/mainanbasicchar1.jpg
i would love it if people put some c&C on them .......

killermachine
06-27-2006, 04:13 PM
toledo here are the sketches you asked for somtime back...male and female nude basic sketches..iv not used erasers so that u can see al my mistakes and my approach towards work and help me improve it...i request other people to put there stuff too as it would help them.POST STUFF PPL.............

aLoneCuzzo
06-27-2006, 04:45 PM
Hey... This is MAD old, but I'll post for the sake of the forum I guess... Haha!

I think that the thing that I did "wrong" a few years back was just jumping in and copying manga without any solid understanding of anatomy etc, which is why I think my style suffered for a long time.

Now I've gotten back to focusing on the basics since manga is just a stylized representation of reality. Without understanding realism/ anatomy, one could only hope to mimic and just copy stuff that they see in manga... Well that's my take on it... But I love the style and will return to it once I get the basics down.

http://alonecuzzo.com/images/orange.jpg

http://alonecuzzo.com/images/gallery.jpg

http://alonecuzzo.com/images/dance-1.jpg

embryotic
06-28-2006, 12:08 AM
Hi everyone - I am quite a fan of Manga and it has shaped my own style so far - tho what I draw is not 100% Manga as I also looked at a lot of American and English Comics while I was growing up - but from 13 to 16yrs old I cared for Manga most - so I believe that I am some of everything.... plus I am still learning :) so please critique and I will try to do the same, thankyou :)

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9500/gun9ir.jpg

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/4113/spacecowboylge7ga.jpg

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/9209/februarysmall1zr.jpg

killermachine
06-28-2006, 03:38 AM
ok ppl we(digital sol an me)would be starting a manga workshop very soon most probably by the end of this week....other then that those who really want to improve please put up a sketch of male an female nude version of the way u draw so that our guest visit mr toledo(who has bin a manga teacher for 10 years) can see an improve our styles for our bettr..i encourage you to post this so that i can ask him to come over and see...its for your benefit...

digital_embryo:your work has hints of manga but its more western then manga i'l say..C&C.in 1st artwork his right hand looks very wierd and rest fo your ideas are very cool

aLoneCuzzo:ur skillz are very good an you copy well too :thumbsup: (you said you copied not me..haha)

Rebeccak
06-28-2006, 03:41 AM
Hi guys,

I'm going to move this thread to the Tutorials and Workshops SubForum here on the Anatomy Forum. I've left a redirect on the main Anatomy Forum so everyone can find it. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

killermachine
06-28-2006, 03:44 AM
thnx for this help rebeccak..appricieated:buttrock:

Rebeccak
06-28-2006, 03:47 AM
killermachine,

No problem! Looking forward to your and Enrique's Workshop. :) Let me know when you guys are ready to go so that I can advertise it about the Forums. Did you want to create a new Thread for an official Workshop? :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

aLoneCuzzo
06-28-2006, 04:40 AM
Haha! Thx killermachine.

I guess I didn't mean copy, like directly mimic someone's style, but moreso trying to mimic a style without really understanding the underpinnings of it.

Hadn't realized it sounded that way til you put it that way. Oro~~~>

Thx again, I think this thread/ whatever it becomes will be really great!

killermachine
07-01-2006, 05:57 AM
hello ppl wat has happened wakt up put some work...me and diigisol are busy creating workshop for all the people interested hence cant create anythin new rite at the moment but ppl dont let this thread die plz..post some work

aLoneCuzzo
07-01-2006, 06:00 AM
K, I'll throw something up tomorrow... Just got maya so I'm going through the tutorials 2night... don't think im goin to sleep!

aLoneCuzzo
07-02-2006, 08:58 PM
Sorry got a little busy, I'll see if I can post something today or tomorrow.

killermachine
07-07-2006, 07:58 AM
wats the matter people if r not able to post stuff then you wont too???
anyways here s a new addition to manga ga family...upcomin fashion of manga cars
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/mangahummerh2copy.jpg

DigitalSol
07-13-2006, 07:30 PM
Hello everyone, I just made this for my work, is a custom for a promotional tour of motorola, post manga stuff people

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/sketch%20thread/motogal.jpg

killermachine
07-16-2006, 03:54 PM
heres the stuff iv recently done...
colored version of sketch above...
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/angela2.jpg
and some more stuff mechs an all
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/mechfunny.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/darkcrabmechweb.jpg

waddup ppl post stuff else this thread is a gonner

killermachine
07-20-2006, 05:32 AM
Ppl This Thread Wont Work Without Ur Support......its D Only Manga Thread Here

Pinoy McGee
07-28-2006, 01:08 AM
Wacom's dedicated manga site: http://www.wacom-europe.com/manga/

I'm designing a 2d game fighter (a la Street Fighter, Rival Schools, etc.) at the moment. I'll post those here when I'm done sometime next weekend.

Here's an oldie. Not a fan art but I used DOA's Kazumi's costume design anyway.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Flipmcgee/kick_mcgee02.jpg

architectus
07-31-2006, 07:56 PM
quick sketch

http://www.manfacedgods.com/forums/femalesketch2.jpg

killermachine
08-05-2006, 04:09 AM
hey hey its my new dp...
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/frnzcopy7.jpg

killermachine
08-15-2006, 04:48 PM
hi this is wat me and digisol did 2 days bak....

i wonder y r mod's not helpin us promote this segment of cgtalk...ita d only manga thread after all... :P
an since v wil b starting r workshop(which..finally, after many delays will b coming this weekend) on a new thread i request rebbeca to place this thread in its original location

nebezial
08-16-2006, 02:50 PM
whee jooy, here are some of my manga pages i used to do..and probably will finish one day

killermachine
08-16-2006, 03:02 PM
WOOOAAAAHHHH...my thread jus got hit by the hurricane itself..thnx for showin interest in this thread nebz,ur so gud wid ur realistic stuff i didnt thot u'l eva b interested in doin manga...but its as awesome as rest of ur stuff...im a big fan of urs an i try to follow ur tutorials most of time....u an digi sol are my inspiration :P

nebezial
08-16-2006, 06:45 PM
haha oh im a junkie for all the styles and a total manga fanatic..im planing on publishin my own but first i got a set of other comics that are allready approved so all in good time..till then..this is an ancient attempt on workin with gradients ..unfinished but heyhttp://img354.imageshack.us/img354/861/ranmaqz4.jpg

calisto-lynn
08-16-2006, 06:49 PM
woohoo nebz^^ you appeared too!! im so happy!! :D

killermachine
08-16-2006, 08:19 PM
this hread is lukin lik its risin again from its ashes...keep up d interest ppl more excitement wil follow...

Kate-chan
08-17-2006, 12:47 PM
ooo calisto told me about this topic!!! I didn't post something from... uhhh who remember when ^^' so here are some of my new works...hope you like them ^^'

here are apollo and selene... that are gods of sun and moon.. so they can't see each other but they are in love... long story ^^'
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/79/apolloandselene7td.jpg

here is another one.. mm I'll not comment this pic.. just that it was drawn after the incident XD... an old one..
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8663/kateinbathroom3kv.jpg

and here goes an umm comic.. of Final Fantasy 7... eheheh... no comments for this neither... =_=''
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/6538/mystupidffcomictw4.jpg
and these are some of my work.. I think is enough because they are big.. and I don't have time to put them in small size... sorry ... maybe I post another reply with other pic I have... see ya

killermachine
08-17-2006, 03:17 PM
ur apollo an selene pic didnt loaded wen i was viewin d hread but i liked ur other qirks espl d toilet paper one:D

Pinoy McGee
08-18-2006, 06:24 AM
Fight!!!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Flipmcgee/fighters_mcgee03.jpg

DigitalSol
08-22-2006, 05:23 AM
Long time of no postings, I took a time for myself, a little artistic break :P, but I have been watching you all (mwahaha!!), so Im back, as many of you already knows Im a huge manga fan; Killer machine and me, would me uploading a manga workshop by these days, I want to give a little time for announce it, so...

COMING SOON...
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Manga%20Workshop/MWbanner.jpg

DigitalSol
08-22-2006, 06:19 AM
Hey KM, bro great job on this one, cool job on the pose, all the best

Architectus, great pic of that gal, keep on going

Hey Nebz, is great you are herem is always a pleasure to see your work, is wonderfull as all that you do, you are one of the greatest artist here in CGtalk.

KateChan, just awesome work with these pieces, I just love the Apollo and Selene (haha thats the name of my sister) paint, cool job on the toilet paint :D

Pinoy Mc Gee, Im just crazy about the fighting pics, they are the best, great job on this one

sturmkim
08-22-2006, 08:40 AM
Yo guys! and Cant wait to manga workshop DigitalSol!

originally for new OFDW concept...but too scary i guess....ya around,,,,
good work everybody!

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/sturmkim/drawing/hunting.jpg

Pinoy McGee
08-25-2006, 04:34 AM
I am excited to manga workshop! While we wait, I did this manga inspired illustration. Good to know you like the fighting one DigitalSol. Interesting concept sturmkim.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Flipmcgee/21.jpg

Hyptosis
08-29-2006, 08:36 AM
Hey guys, there is some pretty good stuff here. Just keep at it. I think you guys should try to post a minimum of once every two days. You gotta draw as much as possible in as short of a time as oyu can. Even if you only produce garbage, it isn't hurting you. Just my two cents on work ethic.

Found the thread through Neb, who posted some stunning work I see. Impressive man, big fan of your work. ^_^ I just wanted to let you guys know I've been following the thread, while I'm not much of a 'traditional' 'manga' reader, I do read a lot of french comics and a few japanese comics, blade of the immortal, etc. I get told my own comic work looks like a manga lots of times, which isn't intentional, but I did watch a lot of anime when I was a kid, even if I don't anymore.

http://www.lorestrome.com/therealmsofaegis/loa02p02.jpg

http://www.lorestrome.com/therealmsofaegis/loa02p04.jpg

http://www.lorestrome.com/therealmsofaegis/loa01p25.jpg

Anyway, just wanted to try to boost you guys into gear and keep you working and posting. ^_^

killermachine
08-30-2006, 06:58 PM
thnx everyone for lukin forward to our workshop.its very appriciated..
hyptosis dats pretty cool stuff.i luv it..keep postin ppl:thumbsup:

killermachine
09-11-2006, 08:11 PM
funny...no posts since i got lil busy :P

dukkeofdeath
09-17-2006, 04:20 AM
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8840/towtru41jd1.jpg

This is comic book I have been working on.
-R

RobertoOrtiz
09-19-2006, 09:35 PM
Hey John!

Nice to see your stuff in the forum.
Hope to see more of your work in these parts soon.

You can check out some of his amazong manga work
HERE:

http://www.marilith.com/


-R

Rebeccak
09-19-2006, 09:53 PM
dukkeofdeath, Welcome! Some fantastic work here and on your site. I would be honored if you wished to write some Tutorials for the Anatomy Forum - be it on figurative or non figurative perspective, or both. I look forward to your valuable contributions here! :)

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

killermachine
09-20-2006, 04:45 PM
hey rebeccak u havnt given us d permission to start the manga workshop...when can v start???

Rebeccak
09-20-2006, 04:50 PM
hey rebeccak u havnt given us d permission to start the manga workshop...when can v start???
I gave DigitalSol permission weeks ago ;) - he was going to send me materials to review, but hasn't yet. :)

Enrique!!! :D

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

cenobyte
09-21-2006, 04:40 PM
John, good stuff... I would like to see more of your work online. I like your lines, sense of form, and use of color. Can you give a "digital coloring for comics" tutorial? I'm trying to learn on my own with limited success. I liked your work in Image Comics' "Hammer of the Gods" and Insight Studios "Doctor Cyborg".

Best Regards,

Norb

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8840/towtru41jd1.jpg

This is comic book I have been working on.
-R

killermachine
10-03-2006, 04:25 AM
hey ppl..digi sol an i hav bin lil busy these days so workshop has bin delayed a bit but rest assured its comin...
ppl keep on postin stuff thank you

aggie93
10-05-2006, 07:56 PM
Can anyone play? I would like to give "Manga" a try.

killermachine
10-06-2006, 09:48 PM
iv done too much talkin past sometime its time to work so here's my latest artwork ;) aggie..wait a bit more..we r gettin whole game workshop for u very soon:scream:

i jus updated it wid lil more shadows..

killermachine
10-21-2006, 08:58 AM
post stuff ppl

DigitalSol
10-25-2006, 03:57 PM
Hello people, I apologize for the WAY TOO LONG delay in the manga workshop, but work in the real life is sucking my soul:( and I have no time for almost anything, I wanted to apologize and promess that soon as I can it will start, and please dont loose the interest posting in here for the while, I leave some sketches for you.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Manga%20Workshop/sketcho4.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Manga%20Workshop/sketcho2.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Manga%20Workshop/sketcho1.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Manga%20Workshop/sketcho3.jpg

jramauri
10-28-2006, 01:17 PM
It's the first time i'm seeing this thread, and i think it's great. Mangas always suffer prejudice because it's not a "form of art", as many people say. Well, I don't think this world is only made of art, is made of things we like. Among them lies manga!
There goes my contribution for the thread. I made these drawings a looong time ago, but I'm really proud of them (in spite of they received just a few comments here at CGTalk when i posted them...). It's a mix between mangas and realistic drawings. I hope you like them.

Mai Shiranui (Fatal fury and The King of Fighters)

http://www.amauriilustra.com.br/images/2d/shiranui_mai.jpg

Chibimoon and Sailor Saturn (Sailor Moon)

http://www.amauriilustra.com.br/images/2d/chibi_hotaru.jpg

Sailor Venus and Artemis (Sailor Moon)

http://www.amauriilustra.com.br/images/2d/sailor_venus.jpg

Magic Knight Rayearth - these piece is unfinished yet

http://www.amauriilustra.com.br/images/making_of/MKR/MKR_12.jpg

There some more on my webpage, as well as "making of"s for these works.

Revliss
11-09-2006, 02:01 AM
here is my manga drawing :P
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4519/vampknightow3.jpg

killermachine
12-04-2006, 02:27 AM
great stuff revliss nice paints jramuri i really like mai's painting.thnx for posting stuff and i look forward to see urpeoples regular contribution.my semester exams hav arrived so it'l b a while before my new paint comes up :shrug:

Kate-chan
12-04-2006, 11:06 PM
uuuuu I didn't post anything.. in a long time.. uh between school and work.. it's really hard to find some time for drawing...^^' so here are some of my "recent works"...

This is a pic of aeris .. just wanted to experiment with hair...
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/365/aerisbgfv6.jpg


this one was an experiment for the background.. which as you can see is totally failure ^^'
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/7510/fairymorninglw0.jpg


in this one the arms are missing.. I know.. but.. huh.. anyways... this was a piccy for my best friend calisto..
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/24/friendshipep6.png



this is a little fairy of light..
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/1537/luciaak6.jpg

you can find this pic on the net.. I used it as a reference picture 5 years agoi I think... these are marie antoniette.. and lady oscar.. unfinished..
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6347/ladyoscarsq6.jpg

this was an experiment too.. for a new colouring style...
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9458/littlerrmi8.jpg

and here is another comik.. but it's too big for this post so I give the link.. FF9 comic (http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/575/ffixcomicbb8.jpg)

Hope that the pic are not too big.. as you can see I love to draw cute little chibi characters.. hope you like them ^^ see ya :*

alexbaer
12-14-2006, 10:44 AM
A character design I did a while back... I'm learning to color and still having very hard time with it, so just a lineart this time. :)

http://www.artofalexbaer.com/stuff/chardesign01.png

ThePatches
12-19-2006, 04:00 AM
oman, I draw more manga art in my spare time than anything else :D Becuase I tend to do it "quick and dirty" compared to my "regular" art lol.

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8052/1013818lx1.jpg

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7649/835552bv7.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7094/822240yi8.jpg

It'sg reat to see so mnay wonderful anime artists here :D

Revliss
12-20-2006, 12:03 AM
here a hand maden i draw
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9691/handmaden2hr8.jpg

killermachine
12-20-2006, 01:28 PM
great work kate ,reviless,patches. i hope to see that work colored up soon alex.my exams wil b over soon so i'l b back with you people shortly.this thread rocks:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :bounce: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Whiteshade
12-23-2006, 01:47 PM
Hm well...here are a couple of my manga-styled works. Feel free to comment.^^

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/7578/lucy28cz.jpg


http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1414/lilium0vv.jpg


http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/3567/nephelene7lf.jpg


http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/3753/iselmira5sg.jpg


http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3280/sophiainfernus5qv.jpg


http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2338/setsunagi1.jpg
Latest drawing. Been debating on whether to CG this or not...it has been a long while since I last did.

Revliss
12-27-2006, 01:51 PM
here a princess :P

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4104/prinessariah2rp1.jpg

killermachine
01-12-2007, 06:26 PM
hi im back,sorry for posting les as my thesis are going on but i cant forget my uber cool frnz here :thumbsup:
so heres some stuff
iv bin trying to color her for a long time now but im unable to justify her so i'v left it for some other fine day cuz i cant color that well right now:sad:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/goddessdraft.jpg
i don remember posting this here so..
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/frnzcopy7.jpg

whiteshade(sorry if i spelled it wrong) my friend your ideas are very cool but you really need to work on your anatomy only then your ideas can b justified.keep up the good work ppl

Hiuki
01-28-2007, 10:11 PM
I used to draw a lot of manga back at college under the name 'Ecco', but once I got to university, I stopped after realising everyone was drawing it, and I kinda got bored of it, anyhoo, for my Animation for games ICA at uni, I decided to go back to my roots :)

Here's two bit's I've done recently


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/hiukisan/The_Summoning_by_Hiuki.jpg

A fisherboy summoning the lake guardian



http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/hiukisan/fisherboy001.jpg

part of the concept art for the fisherboy

there's some nice looking stuff on the thread - keep it up guys!

killermachine
02-13-2007, 07:08 AM
its been some time
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/muaythaifinal.jpg
with blur
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/muaythai2.jpg

SpiritDreamer
02-13-2007, 01:59 PM
HEY...killermachine...:thumbsup:

You mentioned that you wanted to know how to make a real looking spotlight effect.....your using painter..right.?
Anyway, if you are, this is the method that I use for spotlights..i'm using PAINTER #9
Go to EFFECTS, top of screen...select...menu comes up...select off of that menu...SURFACE CONTROL...another menu comes up...select APPLY LIGHTING on that menu...whole range and varity of spotlights in there.
Grab the lights with your pen, by thier big end to move them, and by thier small end to aim them....pick the color of your spotligt in the box that says LIGHT COLOR....For more lights, press in the frame where your picture is...if you get too many going on...drag them to the edge of that picture frame, and aim them out of the frame...takes awhile to get used to them, but I think you will really like them, once you get the hang of it..:)
You can also tint your whole canvas by going to effects again, and selecting..APPLY SURFACE TEXTURE...Where it says PAPER in there, press...menu comes up...select...IMAGE LUMINANCE...then below that is a slide bar that says..AMOUNT,..slide that arrow in that slider all the way to the LEFT....Box in there that says light color..press and pick the color of your tint...then press OK when you are ready.just press undo..top of screen if you don't like the effect, and start over until you get what you are after...goes for all of these effects..:)
Go to TONAL CONTROL...found in EFFECTS...select...menu comes up...select..AJUST COLORS ajust the intensity of your colors with that.
Also in that same menu is BRIGHTNESS AND CONTRAST...makes your picture darker and lighter, amounst other things...:scream: ..HAVE FUN..:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

killermachine
02-13-2007, 03:33 PM
thnx alot for this SD.for colouring i had used PS since i just started using painter.i have 9.5 so i'l try what you said if it works i'l use it for sure.thnx for looking into my request:buttrock:

killermachine
03-06-2007, 02:15 PM
some stuff to post in the time i found
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/muaythaiwmark.jpg
another idea i'l start workin on
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/batslineart.jpg
i c no ones posting too much nowadays..wonder y:sad:

VincereCaos
04-13-2007, 02:01 AM
a Demon warrior:
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Vincere_Caos/lineartdeadwarrior.png

killermachine
04-14-2007, 03:08 PM
welcome to cgtalk VincereCaos and im glad ur first post was in The manga thread og cgtalk.its pretty good i hope v get to seee more of your works

VincereCaos
04-17-2007, 11:51 PM
thank you for the welcome, i'm glad you like my drawing :)

here is an old chibi drawing i did of cloud from ff7

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Vincere_Caos/chococloudsmall.png

Whiteshade
04-19-2007, 02:05 PM
Hey again. Just dropping by. I haven't been drawing much manga-style lately, but this was something I whipped up for a character design contest about a week back.

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/7954/shokobb9.jpg

Character Bio:
Shoko is a guardian spirit, one of many bound to the maneki neko, sculptures of cats with an upright paw, used by many businesses and establishments as a talisman for fortune and good luck. While her function may be to chase away evil spirits, her personality is anything but noble. Shoko is mischievous to a fault, often causing as much trouble as an oni for the hapless owners of her maneki neko whenever she gets bored. She also has a peculiar obsession for coins and anything shiny.

Character Design:
The character design is based on that of a maneki neko. Her right hand raised is believed to bring wealth and good luck (in Shoko’s case though, probably coins). A koban (gold coin) usually held by a maneki neko, is tied around her waist as a belt. A collection of bells and coins also adorn her body. The main colours used for her costume are all believed to be symbolic when used for maneki neko: black to keep away evil, red for good health and gold for wealth.


I actually started a manga based on her, lol. But the artwork's really sketchy in those as I try to just get the pages done fast.

killermachine
04-19-2007, 06:15 PM
VincereCaos:hey thats a nice chibi:thumbsup:
VincereCaos and whiteshade: u no guys u really got good ideas ,seriously, but it would very nice if you would work a bit on the anatomical part.since i no you would lik to.. the much awaited Manga Workshop will commence very soon(most probably next week if all material is ready) i'l also show you some more techniques to improve your artwork, all will come in the workshop.i will also be accompanied by digital sol who is a very good artist as u can see in the earlier post put up by him.

SO cheers to all an gud luck to me :P

KM

Whiteshade
04-19-2007, 06:19 PM
Lovely. I could really use that. Keep us posted!^^

VincereCaos
04-21-2007, 05:35 AM
yes, i have a loomis book they say here it's very good. I'm looking forward to the workshop :)

here's the colored version of my drawing

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Vincere_Caos/lineartdeadwarrior.jpg

trees are hard to do :/

Milchschaumschluerfer
04-24-2007, 09:05 AM
I tried to draw a mange for fun some months ago. This pose wasn't drawn from my mind, I found it in the animebook of jisu cho (i love his style and i love animes).
I'm a totally beginner and have to learn all important basics like anatomy, perspective etc. but i did this one only for fun.
I'm sorry for the quality, my scanner had some trouble.

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2526/animeae1.jpg

Maybe u want to check some drawings of jisuk cho --> http://www.blackrevolver.com/

After i've got the basics i want to get this kind of style to draw animes...don't know why but i'm lovin' it! :D

killermachine
04-24-2007, 05:40 PM
Milchschaumschluerfer: u no watever people say manga is addictive.but u need to learn the basic principles of real human anatomy before goin in this v hope v our workshop would be a help to you.im sorry for not givin an update but due to my work schedule it has been delayed by a week.the work on it is goin on but its a bit slow right now.til then u can check out www.polykarbon.com (http://www.polykarbon.com) and www.mangatutorials.com (http://www.mangatutorials.com) for tutorials.

til then keep drawing :thumbsup:

Revliss
04-25-2007, 03:54 AM
did i post this ???
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1219/ettainnerarmorfull6gz.png


and this ??
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7831/sarawalkingvh3.png

killermachine
04-25-2007, 05:18 AM
nope bro u hadnt.very nice pencil work.tho i'd say the first one looks a bit off balance u mite want to correct it before u sart paintin it.hope u see more of ur realistic paintin style:bounce:

JohanGold
04-25-2007, 12:41 PM
hey all ,

this my first post on this thread


great work u all

the most drawing i like it here is 4 Revliss , killermachine and jramauri (( i like soooo much ))


so this my work hope u like it


http://www.9m.com/upload/25-04-2007/06966011771243.JPG

killermachine
04-25-2007, 05:32 PM
MIX3XIM: hey thnx for droppin by and lookin at our lovely gallery.im guessing ur jus starting on manga so i think you should look at the web addresses i gave 2-3 posts back.they are ideal places for beginners.
cheers an keep posting!!:thumbsup:

JohanGold
04-25-2007, 05:43 PM
that's right

don't worry

i won't miss it :thumbsup:


cheers

XP-58
04-30-2007, 02:37 PM
I've never known such a thread exist in cgtalk :) I'd be glad to join!

I did this a while back in Manga Studio:

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5302/lm03is9.jpg

DigitalSol
05-06-2007, 04:52 PM
Hey everyone, too much cool work in this thread I would like to collaborate a little more but I have been very busy at work, anyway here is a wip for for akuma :D hope you like it

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/shot.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/pic.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/pic2.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/gouki.jpg

killermachine
05-07-2007, 04:56 AM
ok people i'v talked to forum leader and some more people which have some very long and good experience in this field.after discussing everythin your syllabus (lol) and workshop pattern has been created..it'l happen in step by step chapter format and hopefully first chapter will be starting from next weekend..be sure to notify ur friends who are interested in this as this should be big :D

best regards to all

killermachine
05-13-2007, 07:34 AM
ok everyone its finally here!!!
the workshop you all were waiting for
The Manga Workshop (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=4384532#post4384532)
go check it out,start working with it and show us how you are improving here or in your sketchbook.please do not post your work in the workshop thread so as to maintain neatness and order in it:thumbsup:

Zilla4Rilla
05-15-2007, 04:50 AM
Hey all...I've been checking this site out and I must say that the quality of all the work I've seen is amazing. There's some good work in this thread, and like some people have mentioned, studying anatomy is a must! Here's the first of what I wanted to post for this thread, a lil character called Zilla :p

I started off with a sketch:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/Grey_Fox/SP_A0263.jpg

I then made some changes to a few things, like the arm and leg size, and body proportions. I also changed the eye shape at my gf's request. Then, I took it and vectorized it:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/Grey_Fox/zilla-1.jpg

Having a friend at a print shop is always a plus, and I took advantage of this and here's the end result:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/Grey_Fox/SP_A0275.jpg

Sorry for the longwinded first post. I usually never post this much in a single post on a board, but really just wanted to say there's some great work on here. I'll have to post some of my sketches on here sometime. See you guys around!

killermachine
05-15-2007, 04:13 PM
Zilla4Rilla: hey bro welcome to cgtalk and welcome to manga thread.glad to se your first post here.needless to say who so ever will see your post will love it.i hope u'l post some more fun stuff
:thumbsup:

RicoD
05-18-2007, 03:20 PM
Nice thread! I can't believe I just found it ... good thing I saw that sticky by Rebeccak!

There are some great pieces here. Although I have some manga influences in my drawings, I rarely draw manga. Sometimes I do quick doodles in attempted manga styles, but they rarely look like 'real' manga.

Some old doodles :
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s4/RicoD_PB/Ero_tako_chibi.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s4/RicoD_PB/Moe.jpg

And a test to learn more about the layer modes and masks I did earlier today. Sorta manga influenced I guess :
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s4/RicoD_PB/Overlay_test.jpg

And of course my chibi-Ringu avatar. ;)

Kazkas
05-22-2007, 08:36 AM
K lets try it...

Well my style is not something 100% anime, i try to keep it something inbetween anime and realism, but from what i've seen, itll fit here :)

http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/3716/tobeshamankingil7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9083/oplineartwipfr2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4363/evanbyul2.jpg (http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=evanbyul2.jpg)

killermachine
05-29-2007, 07:10 AM
hey RicoD n kazkas welcome to our thread.hope to see more work from you people.kazkas i would recommend you do some construction study.u should see our ongoing workshop once,mite help you .
cheers!!:thumbsup:

Revliss
06-29-2007, 08:26 AM
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9296/darkeldarmz7.jpg

ok here is my latest :P

killermachine
06-30-2007, 05:22 AM
hey rev its a good one..her lips r bit off the line tho.u shud correct that part:thumbsup:

keep posting wid updates

Also on a very important note:
i started the manga workshop some time back with quite an interent because of the the feedback i got from you people.but since the workshop has started there has hardly been anyone who showed his/her efforts to us.this has water'd down my effort also.i want to know do u REALLY need manga workshop to continue?if yes then show some support so that i can give you the best we hav,else v shud close it

Revliss
07-02-2007, 07:09 AM
here a princess that i an out of idea on how to dress her
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2664/testom5.jpg

Revliss
07-23-2007, 03:39 AM
got a few more up date here :D
Say hi To Etta and her.... that a flack cannon not a gun.
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7749/ettagunsmallck4.jpg

and Etta in armor
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1548/ettaheavyarmornq5.jpg

pushav
08-26-2007, 04:04 AM
Here is a digital sketch in photoshop. I usually do my manga stuff on paper....

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/pusha-v/speedpaint/mixtapedarladarkbookcoversmall.jpg

This is an image from my sketchbook thread. (Check my signature for link)

ThePatches
09-05-2007, 01:28 AM
Revliss, that is some kick-ass stuff you've got there!! The themes remind me alot of Metriod and Saikano, but the style and detail are completely different! Awesome work!!

Here's one of my more recent manga-ish drawings ^^

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9307/1410376ko6.jpg

killermachine
09-05-2007, 05:17 PM
pushav ,patches welcome to manga thread you hav put up some nice effort here in your images..
pushav i'd suggest that wen u are drawing on the theme..plan it completly in you mind what your output should be like.that wud be a good help

patches great character not much to crit except that it feels that you made the gun in a hurry cuz of which it feel flat and widout weight.a bit r&d on guns can correct that:thumbsup:
here r my contribution for the moment:D
x-men fanart
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/rouge2.jpg
svc chaos fanart
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/svc.jpg

take care ppl and keep posting
KM

aggie93
09-21-2007, 10:42 PM
Well I did not know if this would be the appropriate place or the manga workshop place. I decided here... plus it is on my sketch thread.

This is my first attempt at manga. It seems to be easier but more difficult than realistic art. Anyway, I started with a stock photo, found in the Workshop threads, and went to how to draw manga.com site. I then sketched out the pose, which was naked to begin with, and started at the head ading the manga style to it. I will now work on the torso and post it later. Right now, since we are in computer art, I will draw her in layers, adding clothes after I finish the overall character.

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1954/myiriaxq5.jpg

killermachine
09-22-2007, 08:14 AM
welcome to manga world aggie93 and let me tell you that for first attempt its really nice.i would however do recomend that check out www.polykarbon.com (http://www.polykarbon.com) its a great website for manga beginners.hope to see more from you .and that reminds me i hav to wake digital sol up for updating workshop thread ^^

keep posting and enjoying
KM

aggie93
09-22-2007, 09:49 PM
Thanks Killer. Great website too! I am a bit confused though. I do not know if I should leave hard lines near the highlights and shadows or blend them together. I decided to blend this one. I have finished, I think, the skin. Now I am putting clothes on her. Here is the manga without clothes. My next update will be clothed.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2205/myiriabf1.jpg

killermachine
09-23-2007, 08:12 AM
makin toon type shades or keeping them realistic is completly on you.its your style your essence,that gives the char its uniqueness :) so do it the way u'd love it :thumbsup:

The-Maestro
09-23-2007, 06:26 PM
http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs16/i/2007/208/9/9/Knight_Sabers_5_Group_Color_by_leon_mcnichols.jpgIt's been awhile since I posted anything. But here is my rendtion of the Knight Sabers 5. I guess you could say they are the team that was built after the 2040 series.

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs20/f/2007/230/6/4/ReikaChangDigitized_by_leon_mcnichols.jpg

This one was done on my Wacom and MS Paint of all things. I'm very stupid when it comes to Gimp and Adobe. Its partly my own fault. Anyways here are two pieces of the type of work I try to do anyways.....

aggie93
09-24-2007, 04:14 AM
Here is my first layer of the clothing on my manga.

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9538/myiria001aj8.jpg

aggie93
09-25-2007, 03:37 AM
OK I started another without a reference. What am I doing wrong? Am I trying to make it too detailed?

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9596/manga1hj3.jpg

Kinda looks like an alien!!

killermachine
09-27-2007, 05:34 PM
hi aggie
ans your question ..i guess so.i think at this stage perfecting the pose and expression shud b priority.colors and details can be added later they wont be of much use if character looks clueless:) .like in your previous attempt ,it doesnt really feel u collected enough reference material for making dress(unless you were doin for flintstones..) .do not hesistate in collecting reference for what you draw and in using it.unless you are a super veteran in this field (and i mean around 30+ years in same field...) you cant work without takin ref.i hope i hav been clear,do ask again if somethin pops up.

with respect
KM

aggie93
09-27-2007, 06:29 PM
hi aggie
ans your question ..i guess so.i think at this stage perfecting the pose and expression shud b priority.colors and details can be added later they wont be of much use if character looks clueless:) .like in your previous attempt ,it doesnt really feel u collected enough reference material for making dress(unless you were doin for flintstones..) .do not hesistate in collecting reference for what you draw and in using it.unless you are a super veteran in this field (and i mean around 30+ years in same field...) you cant work without takin ref.i hope i hav been clear,do ask again if somethin pops up.

with respect
KM

Killer - I normally work with some sort of referencing. I find it difficult to get purportions down without it. I have been working on more realistic work that I am use to. http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=4676264#post4676264 I have to try to not be so detailed.

killermachine
09-27-2007, 06:40 PM
hi im sorry if i offended you in anyway..didnt meant to.i had seen your sketchbook recently it has great work and i really like what you are doin nowdays.i just meant to say that in manga you hav to be more through wid references then in realistic since we hav to stylise it to suit our characters.

take care

aggie93
09-27-2007, 07:01 PM
No offense taken Killer. I just cannot seem to break the habit of being realistic. Manga is a new form of art I am not use to. Almost like going from traditional to digital. It takes some time and practice to get use to it. Please keep giving comments.

aggie93
09-28-2007, 03:59 AM
I am using that pose maniacs website. Great site for poses. I tried the manga features on the face, but she looks crosseyed and mad. Not the look I wanted. Ugh! She started without clothes, or skin in that matter. I added a shirt that I see on some Anime cartoons and pants. I may try the face over then color it.

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2115/mangagirl1if7.jpg

Revliss
10-22-2007, 02:38 AM
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5336/saraoptionkn3.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4552/sarahatub4.jpg
so which one ?

killermachine
10-22-2007, 05:23 AM
looks cooler with glasses.make them frameless :thumbsup: or circular one lik of girls in ikki tousen

Revliss
10-22-2007, 06:23 AM
you got any link to them glasses ????

killermachine
10-23-2007, 11:26 AM
http://mononoke-bt.org/pic/categories/screenshots/large/1647.jpg

this might help

Revliss
10-23-2007, 04:41 PM
pencel

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9968/saraglasses1ee6.jpg

photoshop
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7675/saraglasses2rk0.jpg


head zoom in
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6084/saraglasses3bo0.jpg

killermachine
10-23-2007, 05:51 PM
a tip:
if u look at ur ps inks and pencil work.u wud notice one thing that many features look great in pencil sketch but not in inks lik eyes and d piece of cloth clipped on the shoulder etc.while inking be verrrry careful cuz u might lose the essence of elements which actually made ur sketch look good in first place.it takes some patience and pratice but i know u wil do it:thumbsup:
take care

aggie93
10-23-2007, 06:23 PM
Revliss - What size paper do you use in traditional? Then I assume you scan that into PS and place it into a layer? What size is your canvas in PS and what resolution?

Revliss
11-01-2007, 08:45 AM
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6280/sara1234ny5.jpg

here is more of Sara

Revliss
11-13-2007, 04:59 AM
here is Sara mom and accoding to the law of anime the mom look younger then her girl
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9613/conqubinetc3.jpg

na not really her mom is immortal so she nevger get old

killermachine
12-19-2007, 11:31 PM
hey all havnt post for a while here .got busy after job an all :P
some stuff
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/judyjetsoncopy.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/Pandavconcept.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/3.jpg

post more an merry xmas to all

aggie93
12-20-2007, 01:57 AM
I have been working too!

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9341/img0055qq3.jpg
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/1018/img0057gs1.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2204/img0060te4.jpg
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8024/sonjayu0.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8885/sonj1zf5.jpg
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/6481/img0090sf9.jpg
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/9351/img0098jz4.jpg

Revliss
12-26-2007, 05:14 AM
here is some drawing ... no complan that i never color my work any more !!!
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6163/etta3nf9.jpg

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/521/rev6jn7.jpg

aggie93
01-06-2008, 10:36 PM
Great characters Rev.

Here is what I have been working on lately. I should have used black for a pen to ink it before I scanned it in. Oh well. This is the first time.

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7444/080106as2.jpg

killermachine
01-07-2008, 05:04 AM
rev:that looks beauty
aggie:i see you are really trying to get the manga look.i suggest you check out www.polykarbon.com it'l giv your work lot of boost :D

enjoy postin

aggie93
01-07-2008, 01:44 PM
rev:that looks beauty
aggie:i see you are really trying to get the manga look.i suggest you check out www.polykarbon.com (http://www.polykarbon.com/) it'l giv your work lot of boost :D

enjoy postin

Thanks Killer. I have been to that site. It has been a great site. I just cannot seem to get it down. I am not sure I am cut out for manga.

killermachine
01-07-2008, 04:10 PM
hey aggie
don worry,its just that u havnt tried it so feel this way
it took me an year to get used to it too :D u try more sites like mangatutorials.com also u can google manga tutorials and u'l get some really cool tutorials..

On other hand i wanted to ask if people here r interested in revival of manga workshop??i hav enough time now that i can update it now and then.so if there is wnough interest i'l start in from where i left :D

aggie93
01-07-2008, 05:24 PM
hey aggie

On other hand i wanted to ask if people here r interested in revival of manga workshop??i hav enough time now that i can update it now and then.so if there is wnough interest i'l start in from where i left :D

I am definately interested! Count me in!

tizianoadmirer
01-08-2008, 09:23 AM
Interested as well :)

aggie93
01-14-2008, 11:48 PM
My computer crashed and I am trying to figure out this imac of my wife's. I do not have my painter. I could download it on this imac but I have no wacom. Here is what I worked on last week. I have more but I haven't scanned it in yet. It is my tribute to Shirow Masamune's Ghost in the Shell series.

http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shirowvc5.jpg
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9946/shirow2dg4.th.jpg (http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shirow2dg4.jpg)

aggie93
01-19-2008, 02:51 PM
Another Shirow

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5836/shirow3cg2.jpg
By doubled2008 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/doubled2008) at 2008-01-18

Pencil, color pencil, Sharpie pen.

aggie93
01-24-2008, 06:29 PM
Again, Shirow. Once I get the manga anatomy more down. I will start evolving my characters.

http://www.image-upload.net/files/9476/shirow4_thumb.jpg

killermachine
01-28-2008, 04:39 AM
hey aggie
i see you are really putting an effort there :) one thing about shirow san's drawing: he's like burne hogarth of traditional drawing...if you are careful then you will excel and if careless you may lose what all you have learned otherwise :D

Revliss
01-28-2008, 05:52 AM
Every body say hi To Lana
(the Vampire not the CAt)


http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8623/catxn7.jpg

aggie93
01-28-2008, 02:57 PM
killer - I have been trying to get this down. It is a lot harder than I thought. I was thinking it was a little more laxed than realist work like my latest I did this weekend: http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=4912007&postcount=114
But it is almost as hard. I am taking that one and will attempt to make my character out of it to see if I learned anything from my Shirow studies.

Revliss - Another good one. See you have your style down. I have not even found mine.

killermachine
01-28-2008, 05:36 PM
hey aggie
don worrry it'l happen soon enough..in case if you are having trouble with shirow-san's style i recommend you try shinchiro watanabe's style or check out some studio ghibli's animations like spirited away.they might be of some help..

revliss: going strong i see .i would lik to stress my point here when i say that your getting some good ideas nailed its time you work on some other basics like line quality and balance and mayb little perspective too because i cant really understand if her mascot is clinging to her or jus standing behind her..

keep drawing people :D

aggie93
01-29-2008, 03:47 AM
Well, here is an outline. I need help with hair.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3637/nude1mangayw0.jpg
By doubled2008 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/doubled2008) at 2008-01-28

I see it now... the head is too small

killermachine
01-29-2008, 04:27 AM
aggie
what i feel in face is that you mite hav not thot alot before placing features.try to avoid lips for now just keep simple line instead to simplify things.in my last image post i made fanart of judy jetson(the pink one :P) u can use that eye style if you want to simplify it more.rest i think is pretty much alright :)

tc

killermachine
01-30-2008, 07:29 AM
i think this mite be of help in exploring wide options that manga/anime has
http://gen8hedgehog.deviantart.com/art/Anime-Face-Maker-v1-0-75897890

aggie93
01-30-2008, 06:39 PM
I think I just need to come up with a face that I can call my own for her.

killermachine
01-31-2008, 06:17 PM
yea thats how it is ..today there r no design restrictions in manga like there were few years ago.its all about experimenting :thumbsup: keep trying till you are satisfied...
hmmm time to do some real posting too:D


on a side note i saw your pics at post your pics thread in ref forums.wont lie if i say i was pleasently surprised.see me there soon :P

aggie93
02-14-2008, 02:32 PM
It has been a while Killer. Since I have posted last, I have gone back to realism in traditional medium http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=4946273&postcount=122. This morning I jotted down a twenty minute sketch of a flash animation I am going to make for my website. So here she is again:

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8798/flashwip1ke4.jpg

aggie93
02-16-2008, 04:13 PM
I was just getting practice in. This is esurance's cartoon character. I first drew her on paper with a pencil. I then scanned it in and colored it using Painter.


Traditional:
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2086/esuranceahr3.jpg

Digital:
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1836/esuranceyq6.jpg

sturmkim
02-16-2008, 11:40 PM
Hi killermachine. It's been a long time here. Glad to see this thread keep going..


Aggie93// One of different from western comic and Eastern Manga(comic) is Line Dynamic.
I saw you one of shirow's, look carefully how he handling Lines.

Good ref in here is Revliss' drawing.. (even in rough lines..) and Lovely concept.

Here is my killing time one.... we (ontario) have a new holiday/// but i'm staying home

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/sturmkim/20080216.jpg

killermachine
02-17-2008, 07:26 AM
hey all
i just had new parts for makin my new pc..after struggling with for a week i finally now hav it workin but no PS for now so i still dont hav anythin solid so here's a sketch for now to show im still in game :D a design of cap america.i'l be paiuting it so it'l look better :D

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/Picture008.jpg

strumkin that design is cool.its always good to see radical designs and hav new holidays comin up :D
aggie93 i gave you a small crit in your SB i think you'd would hav seen it by now

i'l post more soon people and so shud you :D

tc
KM

aggie93
02-18-2008, 02:31 PM
Aggie93// One of different from western comic and Eastern Manga(comic) is Line Dynamic.
I saw you one of shirow's, look carefully how he handling Lines.


Sturmkim - I am not sure I understand. Could you expand a little on this topic?

ayenlou
02-21-2008, 03:58 AM
Hiya guys! *waves*

I'm new here and this is my first post. I recently got into drawing and I'll probably upload a few of my sketches later this week to get this thread going :)


ciao!

ayenlou
02-21-2008, 04:41 AM
Here's a small lil manga comic I made for my TA for Art History last year as a going away and thank you gift for her. This was my second lil comic strip I made. Hope ya'll like!

- ayen

http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v97/147/115/6015497/n6015497_34287467_116.jpg

Revliss
02-21-2008, 05:38 AM
don't think i have post this here be for it old but
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2466/kat2jumpinglx7.png

ayenlou
02-21-2008, 07:13 AM
So here's my first comic I made for my Poetry class where we had to turn a poem into a visual presentation and the medium I chose was manga.

http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v97/147/115/6015497/n6015497_34287505_2154.jpghttp://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v97/147/115/6015497/n6015497_34287506_2852.jpg

stanis
02-21-2008, 10:48 AM
nice pages ayenlou, its typically manga style...
but mangas are written from right to left, not like our european comics !
keep it up though, both pages made me smile ^^

killermachine
02-21-2008, 03:23 PM
hey ayenlou: welcome to manga thread..ur pages are really manga-ish as i like to say :Dyou can translate your thoughts pretty well.now just on drawing,improving and posting :D

tc

aggie93
03-17-2008, 05:02 AM
I have finally thought of a story line. Here is one of my main characters, Ron (aka Metatron). He is an archangel.

Right now he is only in pencil form. I hope to ink it soon.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5742/ronsl9.jpg

aggie93
03-28-2008, 02:30 PM
Here is the main character of my story, Allu. I hope to get her into the digital world soon too!

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/733/img0483ks0.jpg

aggie93
03-28-2008, 11:58 PM
I started inking. I need advise here. I cannot seem to get the smoothness as everyone else does when they ink and/or paint. What am I doing wrong?

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8953/alluvz0.jpg

aggie93
03-29-2008, 03:48 AM
ALmost through. Need to make her look more detailed, but not too much.

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/6126/alluzb7.jpg

killermachine
03-29-2008, 04:31 PM
hey..if you are having smoothness issue in paint i sugegst 2 things if you use PS
-try experimenting with flow and opacity and
-check out nebezial's master thrread in tutorials and workshop..there he has told about blender brush which he created..it'l help blend colors smoothly.

i gotta post some too...been long while

killermachine
03-29-2008, 07:31 PM
new stuff..aviator..for this thread only
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/aviator.jpg

aggie93
03-30-2008, 03:29 PM
Killer - I use the blender brush a lot, probably more than I should. Here is another question, more traditional work. I got me some pens last night and came up with this. How do you blend the pens in real life?

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5681/shirowmc7.jpg

aggie93
03-30-2008, 10:18 PM
Working on my Allu character:

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/1789/alluqt8.jpg

Another Allu pose, sleeping:

Start with pencil and pen:
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8259/sleepla6.jpg

Then scanned it into Painter. Using round brush pens set at 10% opacity, started the skin:

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3246/allusleepil4.jpg

Next adding the draped see through sheet. Painted with 100% opacity but set the layer to 50%.

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5281/allusleepgh7.jpg

aggie93
03-30-2008, 11:36 PM
Finished for now, going to church!


http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1614/allusleeplq8.jpg

killermachine
03-31-2008, 05:34 AM
pens cant be blended actually...and thats a pain in the arse..what you can do tho is use brush pensor pens with thicker tips to do things like hair...varing the stroke pressure will give you moreof the blended look..going from thick to thin will help..whether its a stroke or pens :D
try cross hatching too..u might like it if u want to try with thinner pens

aggie93
04-19-2008, 04:23 PM
I got onto Netflix and started to get various DVDs of anamine shows. I just got through watching witchblade. WOW! It is not your saturday morning cartoon is it. Very sexy though. Anyway, I did some research on the internet to find out more about the artwork. I found this stance on their website (www.topcow.com/comics) (http://www.topcow.com/comics)) and decided to do a quick drawing of it. It took about fifteen minutes and got this:

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1121/witchbladesj0.jpg

I liked the outcome. My question to the manga artist out there. When you come up with poses for your manga, do you use stock photos, models, or just from memory? Then when you decide your reference, how do you maintain your character for that reference? I seem to be able to copy other's work but I have a hard time maintaining my character for things like stock photos. Please give me some constructive comments. Thanks!

BTW - Thanks Killer for the help.

killermachine
04-19-2008, 05:25 PM
yo
long time.i made this today by squeezing out some time from my freelance.i'l color it tradtionally for practice (i suck at colouring)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/maifanartweb.jpg

aggie93 : brother ,your's is a problem everyone faces when they touch manga..the likeness never arrives no matter how much you try.from my point of view ,the answer is simple..
dont aim for likeness..you liked the the character for some reason didnt you,put that in your drawing.as for your other question,the above drawin i made i used ref for the overall pose and hip area while finishing it.i maintained my char by remembering what i was using was a ref and i could make changes where i wanted so i never copied face features and her structure i just liked the pose and used what i liked..

manga is all about whats in your heart and what you want to see,thats what i believe

tc

aggie93
04-19-2008, 11:13 PM
aggie93 : brother ,your's is a problem everyone faces when they touch manga..the likeness never arrives no matter how much you try.from my point of view ,the answer is simple..
dont aim for likeness..you liked the the character for some reason didnt you,put that in your drawing.as for your other question,the above drawin i made i used ref for the overall pose and hip area while finishing it.i maintained my char by remembering what i was using was a ref and i could make changes where i wanted so i never copied face features and her structure i just liked the pose and used what i liked..

manga is all about whats in your heart and what you want to see,thats what i believe

tc

Killer - First off that pose looks unconfortable for her, like she is sitting on her right foot. Now that you have said that about this pose, could you post your reference so I can see the similarities and the differences you are talking about. This way I can see if I am working at it right.

aggie93
04-20-2008, 04:30 AM
Okay Killer. Let's take this rough draft I did from a photo stock on Gods Art. http://www.mc-nudes.com/fhg2/Susann_w118wv/12.jpg (nudity) Or you can do your take from the link. Use your character and I will use mine. Let's see what we come up with in Manga! It doesn't have to be a nude final, as a matter of fact I think we should use clothes of our character, right?

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4723/allu080418wd7.jpg

Blue Col-erase pencil on Pro Layout Marker paper. 3 mintues.

killermachine
04-20-2008, 08:14 AM
no problem. tho i cant promise when i can post it but i'l do it for sure if it'l help you in any way.and i'l post that image too its in my office actually,i know the pose is tight but it has little depth and she is sitting on her bottom with maybe her back restin against somethin .its not an unrealistic pose,i hav many images resembling this pose but this exact pose is my fav for some reason :D.(and i wont deny problems with it as im not genius :) )

aggie93
04-20-2008, 09:47 PM
I placed the clothes on her, the hardest I think. I made her hair more blocky. I placed the eyes, nose, and lips. I will now ink her in. This is my character in human form. I will use the same pose for her in demon form next.

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/9371/allu080419jq2.jpg

Updated (just a little later). I do not have broad brush pens. So I used Col-Erase Pencils. Any suggestions to pens. I have Stabilo point 88 fine 0,4 pens but they are only good for detail coloring (as you can tell from the edge of her right leg). Anyway, does she look manga or American comic style? I do not think she is manga enough. Your thoughts?

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/2633/allu080419aiy0.jpg

killermachine
04-21-2008, 05:58 AM
hey
here is the main image i used for ref
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/048.jpg

it definatly looks much better then your older attempts.little research on lips and hands will as i feel they both are not quite feminine specailly hands.i'l do something bout this pose too today and post it :D

aggie93
04-21-2008, 01:46 PM
It does look like she is missing the lower half of her right leg, but I see that it is going out the direction we cannot see.

I see what you mean about the hands, ugh! I do need to work on the lips. Any suggestions?

killermachine
04-22-2008, 12:00 PM
here is my un clean attempt at making the pose u gave.i didnt made any corrections in it (lik hand,body symmetry etc) so u can see the whole of my idea while working on a pose :D
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/demo1.jpg
ont thing u may note is face.i made the face as it was made in 90's if u hav seen anime's lik trigun or fatal fury u'l undestand what i mean.

whenever u gotta perfect basics best website is polykarbon.com .they hav complete set of tutorials on anatomy

it came out decent.i'l finish it later :D

killermachine
04-22-2008, 01:21 PM
i ended up coloring her :P
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/demo1colored.jpg

aggie93
04-23-2008, 03:59 AM
Okay this seems to be more cartoony than let say Digital Sol's earlier post #6 on this thread. Is that just individual style or is it just rushed works? Am I trying to hard? It still seems I am trying to make it too realistic. Do you agree or what do you see my problem is?

Here is a WIP of the same pose but this is my character Allu in her demon form:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5837/allu080422gr8.jpg

killermachine
04-23-2008, 04:47 AM
what i feel is that study of anatomy is required.ur style is there but it is not able to come up fully since anatomy hasnt been done to the level where you can bend it.iv been trying manga artworks for 3 yrs now and this was one lesson i learnt hard way.there is a whole lot of diff in my work if you see my first post here and the mai shiranui fanart i did 2 post back.the reason i feel is this only.study some serious life drawing for few months and manga will automatically improve.

see magna carta's and final fantasy artworks for your concern on realism..

aggie93
04-23-2008, 01:12 PM
what i feel is that study of anatomy is required.ur style is there but it is not able to come up fully since anatomy hasnt been done to the level where you can bend it.iv been trying manga artworks for 3 yrs now and this was one lesson i learnt hard way.there is a whole lot of diff in my work if you see my first post here and the mai shiranui fanart i did 2 post back.the reason i feel is this only.study some serious life drawing for few months and manga will automatically improve.

see magna carta's and final fantasy artworks for your concern on realism..

You're basically telling me to study the anatomy in order to manipulate it. I know anatomy, I took it in college, even comparative anatomy, but I guess I am not quite adept in figurative art to do what you are saying. I can draw what I see but I cannot draw what I do not see and I am assuming that is what you are trying to get across. I see now that is what I am doing. I cannot take a real photo and make it into something else.

killermachine
04-23-2008, 03:55 PM
hi aggie

you know i do not mean any disrespect but if u hav gone through this thread you would see that on page 1 only i said the same to rebecca when my drawing wasnt exactly that good.the honest ,most honest opinion will not come from your online comrades but from your own heart.you might not like it if i say that you need to practise gesture sketching considering i m alot younger then you but thats how i see it.but it does not matter what i see,if u feel like it needs some thing more then what it currently has then revising basics is alway the best thing..i study from bridgeman and sometimes it takes me hours to get back in manga flow and sometimes im completly out of it but by the end of the day it seriously helps..

that is what my puny brain thinks now.seriously no disrespect intended an forgive me if u find something u don like.

tc

aggie93
04-23-2008, 04:29 PM
hi aggie

you know i do not mean any disrespect but if u hav gone through this thread you would see that on page 1 only i said the same to rebecca when my drawing wasnt exactly that good.the honest ,most honest opinion will not come from your online comrades but from your own heart.you might not like it if i say that you need to practise gesture sketching considering i m alot younger then you but thats how i see it.but it does not matter what i see,if u feel like it needs some thing more then what it currently has then revising basics is alway the best thing..i study from bridgeman and sometimes it takes me hours to get back in manga flow and sometimes im completly out of it but by the end of the day it seriously helps..

that is what my puny brain thinks now.seriously no disrespect intended an forgive me if u find something u don like.

tc

Killer - I found out a long time ago you cannot express tone in forum, e-mail or letters. I know you only mean contructive critism and that is what I asked for. I only concur with you on your suggestions and I only have more questions. I might be older, I do not know, but you can learn from anyone at any age. I actually thank you for your assistance in directing me in this category. I have not had any formal education in art. I learn from trial and error. Forum like these are the best educational tool for someone like me, an amature in art. I would like to know more about the Bridgeman you are talking about. I will continue to work on this.

Thanks for your honesty and help!

aggie93
04-24-2008, 12:58 AM
Here is an update to Allu in demon form. I got her inked outline. I will try and color her digitally.

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7493/allu080422abo9.jpg

aggie93
04-24-2008, 02:03 AM
I colored her in Painter using the pen brushes in a layer set to darken. The scanned in picture was the canvas. Is that the correct procedure?

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/4226/allu080422abf8.jpg

aggie93
04-26-2008, 03:05 AM
I am working on the first page of my graphic novel. Here it is in red pencil, rough draft. I am treating this like a journal for right now. All of this is what I version when I close my eyes, no reference. We are looking between Metatron's head and wing down on Allu who is asleep on the bed curled up with a pillow. Crits, be nice!

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/8397/img0556wo7.jpg

aggie93
04-27-2008, 10:48 PM
I really wasn't please with the page I was working on. I decided to practice some more. Here are some drawings of Masane and Witchblade from the site.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7853/witchblade2ww5.jpg

killermachine
04-28-2008, 05:05 AM
hey
just wanted to ask are you not having difficulty working on a single image divided in two pages?i think it would come better if you landscaped the page for drafts.it'l be easier to color too.
cant see your latest image(maybe cause of firewall in my office)

lastly,as far this section goes,i dont think you need to try alot trial and error will be needed as i hav been trying loads of things and as for george bridgeman,he is a verrry old traditional artist.. go to www.processjunkie.blogspot.com .its blog of Alberto Ruiz-Diaz(awesome artist) where u'l find links to his books after scrolling down a little.
those books will help alot and u can also try glen villppu's book/dvds too.

tc and keep on practising

killermachine
05-23-2008, 07:31 AM
ahhh...it feels good to draw again .well here's some new stuff
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/maifanartcolorcopy.jpg

aggie93
05-23-2008, 04:29 PM
Great coloring Killer. I cannot wait to do another one. I have been laid up the last few weeks after having surgery on my ankle. I have not been really wanting to draw much. In one more week I will be starting my master's degree so I do not know how much time I will have to draw. I want to start one this weekend since it is a three day weekend for me. I will try and post something later.

killermachine
05-24-2008, 08:30 AM
thanks aggie and sorry to hear about your ankle,i was wondering where did u go!! well,get well soon.

til the time you rest here is an online link of bridgeman.you can read it.it 'l help for sure
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=177&t=602916

tc :)
KM

aggie93
05-29-2008, 12:08 AM
Thanks for your concern, Killer. I went to the doctor today. I have to wear this stinking walking boot for another five weeks at least. Agh!


Okay, I drew this last night after I trashed what I was trying to do by mind. (it did not work out)
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1111/img0618vf0.jpg
and a close up on mine

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/642/img0619mp9.jpg

You mentioned somewhere that I was having a hard time bending the characters. I think that is my problem. I can draw what I see. I cannot make it what I want it to do without seeing it while I am drawing. I figure practice will make that happen but, my gosh, when?

By the way, I thought I was in love with Masaune Shirow, but now I like Kazasa Sumita's work in Witchblade.

aggie93
05-29-2008, 02:07 AM
Alright, here is a pose of two characters fighting. I drew the stick figures and now I am volumizing them.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9895/img0625gu8.jpg

This is from my thoughts no reference photos. Where should I go with it?

killermachine
05-29-2008, 03:38 PM
hey
as far as bending problem(and many other which you may face) will go away when you sit at a railway station/bus stop/pub and do gestures drawings for few hrs for atleast 10 days.no need to keep it continous,your own pace can do but dont extend break longer then week.when not doing that, make sketches with strict time limit of 1 min/sketch (it can be reduced to 10 sec,if u can do it) it will basically improve your observation and you will the figure as one object, not in pieces :)

now,on your latest piece.now that you have your idea out from your head onto paper,what i can suggest you try is pick few comics and try to check out some dramatic compostions for your idea.then, take bridgeman/vilppu and construct your figures,suitably toning them for the look you want.it can be a long procedure in start but it'l be very helpful.

BTW, see mamoru oshii's,shinji aramaki and shinchiro watanabe's work, i dont think you'l ever like somthin else(maybe hayato mayazaki's but thats diff..)its my dream to meet these guy's just once specially watanabe san :D

aggie93
06-12-2008, 02:36 AM
Well, I started graduate school a week and a half ago. Not too bad so far. However, I haven't had much time for art. I have been watching Tokko now. I love Netflix. Just order it on the internet and receive a movie in the mail. It is just renting so you return when you are through but it has unlimited resource.


This is a quick sketch. I was working on the face of a manga for fun and it turned into this. No references. This is from my mind. I thought it turned out better than the last one.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7646/img0635xm7.jpg

aggie93
06-12-2008, 01:45 PM
An update to last night's free for all:

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5516/img0637ne5.jpg

I know some things are not correct, but all of this is from the head. I am remembering things I have seen in manga, anime, and my real life work. Maybe things are clicking now. KIller, go ahead and give me comments.

killermachine
06-12-2008, 02:43 PM
hey aggie,
im gonna do more than just comment im gonna giv you something to comment on :D
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/monkeywrench.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/suryaputranew.jpg

these were somethings i did recently.

now onto you work.im sure you were not exactly sitting in drawing pose when u drew face cause it got skewed which happens alot with me when i slide down the chair,just hangin on edge,apart from that i highly recommend you start studing some planes from bridgeman and loomis which will really bring great depth in the same face which isnt there right now.and as far as the body goes i'd say that proportion needs some work.proportions hav to be good even in imagination EVEN IF anatomy isnt perfect as it just makes things look better :D

i'l see you again soon
KM

aggie93
06-12-2008, 03:01 PM
Killer - You were right about the head. I initially started her head at a slight angle. I noticed it too but I just kept drawing. As far as proportions on the rest of her body, how far off are they? As far as yours, I love the monkey man with the monkey wrench. Funny! Not much to comment other than the head on the Warrior seems to be a bit small compared to his neck. That is me though, I can't seem to get proportions in my head.

killermachine
06-16-2008, 06:05 PM
aggie

quite honestly and bluntly,they are quite off...but i think with regular practise it'l b ok.i think use help from force,its a book on dynamic drawing.even tho its not the best, it'l surely help u at many places.

hehe u liked my monkey wrench piece eh...maybe im getting better in my work too :D
yeah ur right about the head i cant stop myself from doing that its automatic reflex,im trying pretty hard to get rid of this habit it'l take some time i guess :P

tc
Killermachine

aggie93
07-08-2008, 10:32 PM
Okay Killer,

Here is another one I have been doodling with for the last few days. It started as just a gesture drawing from posemanics.com and I decided to use it for my character, Allu. Sorry for the poor picture, I haven't inked it yet.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6240/img0696de2.jpg

Revliss
07-09-2008, 04:30 AM
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2259/twins3tt7.jpg


just found out i forgoten to spam on this thread

aggie93
07-09-2008, 02:18 PM
Rev - You have such smooth lines. Do you do your rough work traditionally or is it in the digital layer frozen?