Workshop - Manga Thread

[aggie93]

aggie:its looking good.i think shifting the hip a lil upwards will make it look good :)

right or left

[aggie93]

Thought I would try another photo of my drawing with different lighting. I cannot seem to get that down. How would someone go about taking a photo of the traditional work to get it into digital form if it is bigger than a scanner?

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/605/img0701fj4.jpg

I am adding some background now. I am thinking of adding a demon dog that is coming out from behind her.

[killermachine]

i meant the pelvic height.

what i hav done in that case is just click a pick of it

[aggie93]

Killer - Yea I think it would look better too. I have a large format scanner at the office, but it is monochrome. I am painting it in Painter anyway.

[Revliss]

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/227/mcfurionex1.jpg

new one :D not posting a chick to day

[Memorial-Strife]

aggie93, her arms seem a bit too skinny. Her right shoulder looks smaller than her left one.
Other than that it's coming out nicely. I like the pose.

[aggie93]

Rev - Thanks for leaving your construction lines in it. I think it is useful to see even the pros still do that.

Memorial-strife - Thanks. I noticed and tried to correct this weekend.


Here is an updated post. I started inking the outlines so I can scan it in to be painted in Painter.

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6255/img0707wm1.jpg

[aggie93]

I finally inked and scanned in Allu and her dog, Cerberus.

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/2238/080203002wv2.jpg

I am not going to color her yet. I want to try a different style of manga with her first to see if I like it better.

I have my finals for graduate school this summer this week. I may not get much done.

[aggie93]

Okay, what about this style. I threw this together real quick to get an idea. It is a little bit more comical and not as real. What do you think? I know there is some more refinement but...

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9773/alloth001qq9.jpg

Update 08-07-16, I let go a little and let the hips and boobs go.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5032/alloth002ye7.jpg

[killermachine]

hey aggie,if u dont mind i'd want to tweak your inked alucard...re-ink to be more specific at some places to show how line flow can impact drawing..

speaking of line,here are some gesture sketches i did today at nearby railway station..i did this after very long time and im posting here jus to show how does simple things like these can effect our work quality
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/gesturejuly01.jpg

tc
KM

[aggie93]

hey aggie,if u dont mind i'd want to tweak your inked alucard...re-ink to be more specific at some places to show how line flow can impact drawing..


Go right ahead. I finished my school for this summer so I have some time to work on this.

[Revliss]

not so human stuff
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/5375/shadowbeastau5.jpg

[aggie93]

Weird Rev, what happened to it? You did good on the legs. What reference did you use for the legs?

I did another pose of Allu this week while I was in New Mexico on vacation. I need to do a character page for her.

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9816/allu080807ep9.jpg

[Revliss]

emm wose looking at some robot manga and see that they did not put feet on the robots :P but as for the legs it just metal gear :P

[aggie93]

Don't get me wrong, Rev, it looks cool. That is really thinking out of the box. Great job with all your characters. Have finished any of them out yet? Do you plan on any manga book or story?

[Revliss]

drawing a character from some Anime
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8502/sheryl5ww7.jpg

[aggie93]

Hey Rev, is this one digital? How do you set the pen sensitivity like that?

[Revliss]

i use open Open Canvas4.5 for that. it feel like the line work is bettern then in photoshop .. as for painting i don't know have not get to that stage yet.

[aggie93]

So you do your line work in open canvas then export it to photoshop to paint or ink?

[Revliss]

ink in Open Canvas which is what i am doing right now then try to color her in Open Canvas . if all things fail back to photoshop. well that my game plane any way :P

[Revliss]

ok it lines are done now i just need to clean/plug up all the lost end and holes
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1411/sheryl6nh5.jpg

[aggie93]

Rev - you said you were using a reference? What is the time it took you to get to this point? Are you going to color it?

[Revliss]

ya i did use some reference image, as i not realy try to draw top down view till now, and of cos i need ti know what dose her dress looks like :P and yes i am going color her ... after i plug up all the holes in the drawing

[aggie93]

What do you mean plug up the holes? Do you flood fill the colors?

[Revliss]

emm i am talking about the holes around the lines :P

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4203/sheryl7um7.jpg

[aggie93]

Here is an update. As you can see my pen (quill) has no pen sensitivity. I think that is why it looks so rigid. What to do? Painter 9.5 software.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3122/allu0001yi6.jpg

[Revliss]

aggie93 well you can try setting your brush opacity level to lest say 10% and build up from there :P

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5271/sheryl8sw5.jpg

and now my update:P i redraw her legs and painted her eyes

[Revliss]

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7585/sheryl9bw6.jpg

hair and clean up

[aggie93]

Rev - What brush did you use to color with? Is that airbrush or low opacity?

[Revliss]

oh and done
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4264/sherylvictorygirllx4.jpg

[aggie93]

Very good Rev. About how much time did you spend on each step? Did you have a reference?

I am working on a cover for my characters. It is also to submit in a Manga art contest locally. This is my rough outline for character placement. I will try and find some references to help.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4761/coverpg6.jpg

[wind27382]

nice to see the thread back and active. I thought it was closed. Looks like I will have a reason to start back drawing manga again.

[wind27382]

this is a image that I made in pencil. The monste in the background is the same as her tatto. it was sealed away and is slowly drainging her life force but it gives her superpowers so she's happy. but I didn't finish it becouse I was unhappy at the way it turned out.

http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc324/wind27382/referance1.jpg

[killermachine]

hey all
how hav you been doing.im working on making my ow grapic novel(an in process improve my work :D ) ihav not posted here for quite some itme but i'l do so very soon showing you the main char as soon as de are done(which r almost complete) im excited to hear ur reviews on them.

Revliss- i knew it i had seen the char when i saw u colorin the hair.its good u did ur own take on her an didnt copied original.i love the series too :D only one i watch with total devotion :P do u know where i can find mecha cat kuro??

aggie93-usin some ref will help for sure.i think ur getting hang of ur char,its better then older attempts.i would now only suggest you check out one of these books
http://www.amazon.com/Force-Character-Design-Life-Drawing/dp/0240809939/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1220418040&sr=1-2

http://www.amazon.com/Force-Dynamic-Drawing-Animators-Second/dp/0240808452/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1220418040&sr=1-1

i do not know why is your sensitivity issue coming.cud be because of drivers.u can also ask for help in painter specific threads here.they'l help for sure.

wind27382- this thread cannot close :twisted: i think if u redraw it from scratch it wud come out better.shud not abandon the idea.is it inspired from naruto?

keep postin people

[aggie93]

Thanks Killer, I will check those out for sure.

[aggie93]

Finished this Allu piece. Would this be considered manga art?

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5817/allu0001sd6.jpg

[killermachine]

very long time since i posted anything..did something yest

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/monsterheadboth.jpg

was done in painter..i really tried to giv my best in this one :p

tc
KM

[syphilis360]

Here's my last work, a flower summoner^^

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8165/bustaflexxh7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/bustaflexxh7.jpg/1/w452.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img143/bustaflexxh7.jpg/1/)

[syphilis360]

Glad I finally found some manga style sharing thread!

Here's mine : a young lady member of the flower summoner faction. Hope you'll appreciate it!^^


http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8165/bustaflexxh7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/bustaflexxh7.jpg/1/w452.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img143/bustaflexxh7.jpg/1/)

[aggie93]

syphilis360 -

Welcome!:applause:
very unique style. love the colors. perspective and purportions are a bit off but that may be your intent. keep posting and commenting.

[killermachine]

syphilis360:welcome to the manga thread..i'l second what aggie said but i hav to say you should check out perspective..this drawing could hav been really cool if it had been planned with perspective

hey aggie where are you..no updates in SB's or here??

[aggie93]

hey aggie where are you..no updates in SB's or here??

Hey Killer,

I started graduate school this semester and it is kicking my a$$. I am holding down a job, I own, 13 hours at graduate school, a pregnant wife and ten year old son, and I was recently elected 2nd vice president of our professional society here in Texas. I doodle a little but that is it. I started my graphic novel the other night when my son wanted me to teach him how to draw star wars. Here is what I have drawn so far:
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5647/img0928bv0.jpg

It is a drawing of Eve telling Cain to leave after killing his brother Able. The bible has much to do with my story.

I also did this little dilly for my son in his room a little while back. It is a star wars scene. It is a water base paint and the light sabers are glow in the dark paint.

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9154/img0927pq4.jpg

That is what I have been up to! It has been pretty quiet lately on this thread. By the way, what is SB?

[killermachine]

wow man u hav been busy..i still dont hav enough confidence to paint my wall..kudos to you for that.man seriously if i were you i would really take care of my wife an mayb forget everything but since im very young an don wanna get married anytime soon :p so i dont know much about the situation but sounds tough definatly..
yeah its been quite here cause i'v been really in experiment mode nowadays and don draw much of anything except abstract randomness that has nothing to do with manga/anime(u can see my SB to see what).but i am gettin my focus back..afterall,all traditional studies im doing is just to enhance my manga art

oh and SB is short for sketchbook :D hehe.i learnt it at conceptart.org

tc

[Revliss]

here be viking :D
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3456/vaskeyev9.jpg

sci fi by the way

[syphilis360]

Here's my last work^^.

Thanks all for your precedent comments by the way!


http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/9985/reinaxj4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/reinaxj4.jpg/1/w452.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img79/reinaxj4.jpg/1/)

[killermachine]

syphilis360 the last one came out pretty nice.your left thigh(our view) went short but keep up the good work
revliss:color it,color it ,color it

[syphilis360]

Here's my last work.

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7088/princesstc9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/princesstc9.jpg/1/w550.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img442/princesstc9.jpg/1/)


By the way, what would you think of a manga anatomy workshopµ? I was thinking about some thing like this : you pick a manga artist you like, then several exercise to analyse his works, to finally produce some art using his / her style. Would you be up for it?

[killermachine]

we had started one workshop some time back but because the of slow response and we guys getting busy it was left midway..it has always been on back of my mind to revive it...someday maybe
you can see it here (http://http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=199&t=495711)

[syphilis360]

Just to let you know guys that I've made a quick tutorial about the basics of Tae Kim's anatomy on my DA account.

Here's the link : http://syphilis360.deviantart.com/art/Tae-Kim-s-anatomy-tut-1-105910036

Hope you'll find it useful!

Cheers.

[aggie93]

This is a rough sketch of my book's other female character. I need to straighten her head a little but I was trying to get the features drawn out. The eyes, nose, lips and hair. It should work. I may tighten this up a little in Painter now. I have Christmas break from grad school so I will be doing as much drawing as I can before it starts up again in 3 weeks. Later guys!

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/4959/img1050bb6.jpg

[killermachine]

hey aggie,
try to smoothen up the feautres they are kind pointy everywhere,eyes being perticular at tht.waitng for update :thumbsup:

[killermachine]

hey all
happy new year!!may you get cranky with all the manganess this year :beer:

on side note i started this year with manga drawings sharing some of them with you :)
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7066/sleevlesskq7.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8519/halibel2ln6.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7244/halibel1pb0.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2031/halibel1coloredbg8.jpg
hope you like them

tc
KM

[Revliss]

guys compare the pencil work to the photoshop lines
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/4623/twins5pp5.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/9589/twin5cj8.jpg
photoshop are just lines i have yet to shard her eyes

[killermachine]

ur ps lines are crisper.u use pen tool for it??some place lines are little jagged lik top of hair so asked

[Revliss]

ur ps lines are crisper.u use pen tool for it??some place lines are little jagged lik top of hair so asked
yap is the old myty pen tool, ok how the eyes from the ps line art ?

[killermachine]

u said you are working on them so at this stage i would say they are lookin good.continue in this direction and if possible lift the left eye (from viewer's position). the highest point should be around where the eyebrow's lowest point is

[Revliss]

emm i want to draw twins and have a bit of .. i don't know how to poses them in one drawing .. what posing hmm standing

[killermachine]

do google search :wise: . try Olsen Twins,identical twins etc... you'l get ur pose. best of luck with it

[Revliss]

just a test to make the drawing stand out more
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5082/yurylicq4.jpg
i color the eyes. and done

[syphilis360]

Hi all, long time no see!

Here's my last contribution btw :

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9800/capturerqp7.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/capturerqp7.png/1/w524.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img210/capturerqp7.png/1/)

[aggie93]

Wow y'all have been working here. Since grad school started I have not had time to blow my nose much less draw. Here are some doodles so I can at least practice a little. All pencils.

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/769/scan0001gz0.jpg

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9038/scan0002kr0.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/207/scan0003ds5.jpg

[aggie93]

Syphilis360 - your work is striking:eek:. I wonder why you are so detailed in your head area and the foreshadowing of the limbs are exaggerated. I am sure it is your style but I wonder how you came up with it.

Rev - why did you want us to compare the pencil work with the digital line work?:curious: The eyes are fantastic by the way.

Here is another pencil sketch:cool:. This is a copy of Elsevilla's work from deviant art. I love his style:love:. I am still just playing around with styles. I have some story written down but I cannot seem to agree with myself:banghead: on how to draw the book, either fully manga or just illustrate it somehow... or it could be a hybrid of the two:shrug:. If you are interested, I can shoot whomever a copy of the draft to chapter one:deal:.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7595/elsevillacopy1js8.jpg

[killermachine]

aggie im in same situation right now.iv been workin on a story for almost 6-7 months and stil not sure about how to draw it..i think its all a bit of fear part from the first panel of the empty page..i guess before you start working on comic you should study them and try to understand the moods.im saying this because you havnt post any drawings the would show any mood compositions and mood has alot to do in comics :)
here is my first piece in adobe illustrator..it was done at my new job.more on 60's storybook design it was for a big event logo.it got sligtly changed but i hope i wil show you the final one soon
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/ICE.jpg
and self portrait as creature workshop- mine entry
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/wolf-bat6final.jpg

tc

[aggie93]

Great job Killer. Is that the imaginative workshop Rebecca is doing on the other thread? A bat eh!

I wanted to add an image of a girl running. I was working on getting foreshadowing down and the fluidity of the body while moving. I think I will have problems figuring clothes out. I am not a fashion designer. Any suggestions? How do y'all come up with clothes?

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6350/girlrunningnr1.jpg

[derwonder]

calling a cetain method of illustration as manga is technically incorrect as manga means comic in japanese, I prefer to call it the "japanese type" of illustration,

I'd even go so far as to label it as a subject that's for advanced illustrators as drawing in an exaggerrated from requires knowledge of proper anatomy, and contrary to what others would think I would really insist on the matter of before drawing on the eastern style you need to know your proper anatomy, there's just no excuse for going the short route, learn proper anatomy first before going on exaggerations

[killermachine]

calling a cetain method of illustration as manga is technically incorrect as manga means comic in japanese, I prefer to call it the "japanese type" of illustration,

I'd even go so far as to label it as a subject that's for advanced illustrators as drawing in an exaggerrated from requires knowledge of proper anatomy, and contrary to what others would think I would really insist on the matter of before drawing on the eastern style you need to know your proper anatomy, there's just no excuse for going the short route, learn proper anatomy first before going on exaggerations

well i hav always given what you said above the utmost importance whenever iv talked to anyone about it and is what i tell to others.you wil see it at alot of places in this thread.is there a point you are trying to tell here?

aggie: do what v should do in general :P see fashion magazines

[aggie93]

Ouch. This thread is to assist those that are seeking help in the eastern method of comics, us westerners call manga. We all are learning the human body as our foundation to any figurative art, including manga. Killer is correct that we have always stressed anatomy first. Killer has pointed out several times my own anatomical proportions that needed to be worked on. This thread is a workshop built for constructive critism. Let's all keep it that way!

Killer - Thanks for the suggestion but it appears that y'all come up with your own design. That is what I was referring to.

[killermachine]

it comes with mixing and matching different designs .i had even downloaded a book which chronologically orders all the fashion trends which happened since 1900's :)

[aggie93]

That is a good idea. I will see if I can find a book like that too. Thanks!

[derwonder]

I don't mean anything derogatory with what I mentioned, I just like saying things directly, personally I rather have someone say things straight rather than trying to not disappoint you

[aggie93]

Neoutral - Some people work well off of more direct ways and others take offense to it and get discouraged. I believe you meant well but maybe tone it down and explain more in detail your teachings of manga. We can all learn from each other. Thanks for the input. Please post some of your work so we can learn from yours as well.

[killermachine]

hey guys how are you doing??
havnt seen much updates in a while
i hav been busy in creating a new event in my country.Check out my SB for it..
Meanwhile:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/phantom.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/environment_concept.jpg

Aggie whats the update on your last image...was really liking the way it was coming

tc :buttrock:

[aggie93]

...Aggie whats the update on your last image...was really liking the way it was coming...

Hey Killer, it is called graduate school. It has taken all of my free time. I have finished all the core courses, now I am on my research. Therefore, I have been just doodling, if that is what you would call it.

My most recent is first... yes my wife is pregnant. She is due any day now. The others where just doodles to see if I could do them.

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/29/scan0005.jpg

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/322/scan0006e.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5348/scan0007d.jpg

[killermachine]

hey congratulations for the good news.tc of her and all the best :buttrock:

[aggie93]

Thanks! Life is fixing to be busy.

hey congratulations for the good news.tc of her and all the best :buttrock:

[DigitalSol]

cool job everyone :)

[aggie93]

I guess everyone is busy. Well, I finished summer school and I am down to one last semester for graduate school. I will graduate in December with my Master's. I hope to start my doctorate just soon after.

My son is seven weeks old now. He is so much fun. All this has taken all my time so not much art work.

I had a vacation, of sorts, last week. I had to watch the kids in Houston while my wife went to a seminar. I had a chance to doodle on my manga character, Allu, in an action pose. I did not use any references.

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1487/allu0908a.jpg

[killermachine]

Long time no see, hope everyone is doing good.i had just made this one sketch to work up some new styles for an upcoming personal project so thot i'd share it with you and get some feedback..
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/marshal.jpg

tc
KM

[DigitalSol]

Long time no see, hope everyone is doing good.i had just made this one sketch to work up some new styles for an upcoming personal project so thot i'd share it with you and get some feedback..
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/marshal.jpg

tc
KM

Wot dude that looks pretty awesome, I hope you put some olor on it :D

[Marchosias]

I tought i'd never see such a topic here... The workshop idea was awesome, i've been copying some Daisuke Moriyama's and Kentaro Yabuki's styles over and over again without any expectations of ever being called an artist (I badly could understand perspective, have little knowledge of anatomy... and well i'm color blind ._.) I hope i could learn a lot of things by joining this workshop. Well, here goes some of my studies:

Character test
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1116/ikkem.th.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/i/ikkem.jpg/)

Another character test
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2636/wip2o.th.jpg (http://img32.imageshack.us/i/wip2o.jpg/)

And a "finished" concept art for 3d... (low chance of success in the 3d one =/)
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2139/avatarmaid.th.jpg (http://img195.imageshack.us/i/avatarmaid.jpg/)

[aggie93]

Marchosias - these are good, especially the colored one when you are color blind. I am not color blind and i have a hard time getting the right colors down. Keep posting and commenting and this workshop will be beneficial for all of us.

[Marchosias]

Marchosias - these are good, especially the colored one when you are color blind. I am not color blind and i have a hard time getting the right colors down. Keep posting and commenting and this workshop will be beneficial for all of us.

Thanks aggie93, sure i will! About the colors, i can't take the credit, for now i'm working with sample images from where i get the colors, that's my plan until i get the idea and a basic palette from where i can start experimentation...

And a new sketch, this time with pencil & paper:

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6008/imag026.th.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/i/imag026.jpg/)

The hair looks odd... but i still have some hope on this one. What do you think?

I'm waiting for your posts :)

[aggie93]

I think it will work out with the addition of shading and/or coloring. Are you going to scan this in and digitally ink and color it or will you do a traditional method?

I am glad we got some spark left in this thread, I think it will work out if we keep at it.

I am beat tonight so I will not go any further with this dialog. I will return later though... hopefully with some updates of what I have been doodling on.

Night y'all!

[killermachine]

hey guys,
long time no see.i hav started a new blog called character a day.visit it at www.pencildayday.blogspot.com do visit it once in a while

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/cow.jpg

[killermachine]

hey all
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/doublefinger.jpg

[killermachine]

Due to inactivity for 12 months the workshop thread which contained learning material has been closed.it was a very ambitious project at that time and i alone wasnt able to handle it. I was thinking since now i have improved many folds and i have some free time i could re-create a thread for it an add some more new stuff in it as well :wip:

The BIG QUESTION is: is it needed??

let me know since it wil depend on you guys
link to original
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=199&t=495711

[killermachine]

work i forgot to post
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/mai2.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/heroichunt.jpg

tc
KM

[aggie93]

Well Killer, I for one still need a thread like this but sometimes I do not find the time needed to draw. I have completed my master's degree and began my doctorate. I am a glutten for punishment. I am taking some time off of school next semester and my plans are to start working on my manga. So, whatever you think we should do from this point.

TTFN - ta ta for now!

[killermachine]

long time no see.lots of things to be posted.lets begin then
My main blog's (http://www.amryy.blogspot.com)banner
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/banner.jpg
Chibi's(didnt knew i could draw them until recently)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/chibi-2.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/chibi-SVC.jpg
This was a keep-it-up drawing for my friend who's M.Phil exams are coming up
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/ganbatte_web.jpg
You can call this abstract manga :P
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/starshot.jpg

hope you enjoy these
tc

[killermachine]

yo!!
i started fiddling with pixel art!!:cool:

[killermachine]

where are all my buddy artists here :D

[SpiritDreamer]

HEY Amrinder..:wavey: .:)

I like your idea for this thread..Cartooning has a great history..Manga being one of the main facets in the jewel.., it deserves it's place, recognition, and standing in the art comunity, just as the many other forms of cartooning do.
Cartooning has a bright, and very profitable past, and future,..so I too can't understand why your thread has slowed down.
I am going down to the public library and check out a book that caught my eye the last time I was there...It was the history of Manga style cartooning...made me think of you and your thread when I saw it...:)
I have never tried my hand at it, but I think I will now,..so you can count on one new student being in your Manga thread, in the very near future..:)

Oh, and by the way,..here is a link to a thread over at ZBRUSH CENTRAL that just made the TOP ROW..I thought that you might find it interesting, as may others might who happen upon your thread in this forum.

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?t=086680


TAKE CARE Amrinder,..and KEEP THE DREAM ALIVE..:) :thumbsup:
Glenn

[killermachine]

thanks Glenn,
this was my first thread i started here at cgtalk. i was really scared when i did i'l tell you because of the level of work i used to see then. i'v made some progress, made some good friends, and had some great artists visiting here. So this thread is very special to me. I will also start churning out more artworks. Fanarts if not originals but wil be doing more and daring more.

i am really looking forward to what you will bring on this thread :) :bounce:

[aggie93]

i am here. i just have been busy because my dad had his prostate removed due to it being cancerous. i have to go to tennessee this week so i will have time to draw a little in between flights.

let's get this thread party started, killer.:beer:

[killermachine]

Hey aggie take care of your dad. and yea lets get this thread rolling again:cool:

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi Amrinder...:)

Went to the public library yesterday, and picked up a couple of books on Manga.

The Monter Book of More MANGA...edited by IKARI studio...and

Digital Manga Techniques...Hayden Scott-Baron

I was looking throught the art works in them, and on one of the pages, I saw a guy kneeling down next to a wolf.

So anyway, it sparked this image in my imagination...
I already have a wolf that I created and modeled in ZBRUSH, and a heroic girl figure,..so I just got creative, and came up with this piece that i'm posting.

I noticed that some of the newer MANGA does not have the oversized eyes and no nose, so I went with that aspect of what I saw and liked.

I will try out alot of the exagerated proportions, styizations, oversized eyes and no nose aspects of Manga as I go along, but for a first post in here, im going with this piece for now..You or anyone that gets involved in this thread, are more than welcome to do a paintover of it, or throw in any suggestions for improvements ect.

It's a brand new style and game to me at this point, so i'm open minded to any and all useful suggestions..:)
CHEERS
Glenn

POST #1

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/WOLF_RIDER_13.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/WOLF_RIDER_12.jpg

[killermachine]

Im glad this style is instilling some interest in you. Many of the new mangas and anime's like Death note have more realistic proportions overall but another thing is that many new ones also lack a good story. Interestingly, i hav an autographed poster by of the lead animators of Tetsujin 28 (60's anime). if you see those characters, They had quite well built faces(nose, round faces) which has been lacking in recent generation of anime's. So, What i want to say is anime is more like form of expression open to everyone like an opensource program :D so no style is right or wrong.

In the images you have posted, since its an action pose it would hav been great if it had been dynamic with, maybe, a stressing expression on face. That would hav been more anime-isque :)
An example can the link below which is a screenshot from Princess mononoke by Hayao Miyazaki
http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/princess-mononoke-pic4.jpg

Take care Glenn and sorry if i got carried away with the subject :D

[SpiritDreamer]

MAY 12, 2010

Hi Amrinder..:)
I agree with you about the emotion depiction aspect that you mentioned...I will see what I can do about that...:)
Trying to get away from the classical approach to painting that i'm used to doing, and for this thread of Manga ,I will be going for a more graphic illustration use of color and technique.
Might take me a few tries, but I have alot of ideas in the back of my head that might with some luck and work get me there..:)
CHEERS
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/WOLF_RIDER_23.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/WOLF_RIDER_20.jpg

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi Amrinder :)
Working on ideas for the background.
More versions posted in my CG Talk sketchbook, don't want to fill your thread with too many.
Kind of liked this one...shows a similar technique for doing backgrounds in the Digital Manga book that I mentioned above.
CHEERS
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/WOLF_RIDER_41.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/WOLF_RIDER_38.jpg

[syphilis360]

Hey guys! Long time no see!

Great progresses Killermachine! Keep it up!

SpiritDreamer : nice work, this kind of style is very demanding, but that's worth it!


Here's my last stuff!

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3034/nettex802.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/nettex802.jpg/)

See you soon!

[killermachine]

hey glenn, i like the 2nd shot alot.the posing and the background does enhance it alot.
syphilis, thats a very dynamic shot. looking forward to seeing it finished.

[DigitalSol]

hey everybody here is a new manga draw after looooong time, :D cheers

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/fez1.jpg

[killermachine]

hows everyone doing..i made some time bak just for a test. Ref used from tranformers movie.
Hey sol put the coloured one too :D
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/test.jpg

[aggie93]

Hey guys great posts so far... again! Good to see you in here Spirit. You will bring a different look and make us jealous with your talents.

I just got my July issue of Imagin FX with the Manga studies. I will look it over and see if I can come up with anything that will help me. My problem is getting over the obsticle of realism to manga. Since most references come from real life, I tend to jump back into it (see my last piece on my thread). Killer you seem to be working on that too with your last piece here.

I will see what I can do over the next few days. I am going camping in the Rocky Mountains next week. That will give me some time to play around with the ol' paper and pencil.

[killermachine]

Hey guys great posts so far... again! Good to see you in here Spirit. You will bring a different look and make us jealous with your talents.

I just got my July issue of Imagin FX with the Manga studies. I will look it over and see if I can come up with anything that will help me. My problem is getting over the obsticle of realism to manga. Since most references come from real life, I tend to jump back into it (see my last piece on my thread). Killer you seem to be working on that too with your last piece here.

I will see what I can do over the next few days. I am going camping in the Rocky Mountains next week. That will give me some time to play around with the ol' paper and pencil.

im not really trying to go from realism to manga, rather im trying to find a point where both of them can compliment each other. Here is a new piece btw. Based on the name of scooter, pleasure :twisted:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/pleasure_.jpg

[aggie93]

Hey have any of you created a character sheet? I need to do that so I can have some consistancy with my characters. Thanks guys!

[killermachine]

yea iv done it a few times. you should do it .that way you will have a clear idea of how your character looks from every angle. From my own experience iv learnt that even if we "feel" how character looks from other angle, but cant really nail it before we have drawn that angle once.

That aside, you can get alot of them on google images for studying if you type "character sheets"

[killermachine]

2nd in biker gal series
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/boxer.jpg

[aggie93]

This is a copy of a French manga artist named Bengal. I really like his loose style so I am going to practice his works for a while to see if I can use it.


http://a.imageshack.us/img718/7727/bengalcopy.jpg

[killermachine]

bengal is a very cool artist. I feel his loose style is based on very strong foundation so you can observe it more seriously as well.
ok i made my first watercolour bigger then a thumbnail and im sharing it with you since its manga again :D
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/GITS.jpg
tc
KM

[aggie93]

I recognize it as Ghost in the Shell!

[killermachine]

yup it is GITS,my favourite anime.i love its anime style so much that everytime i try to read its light hearted manga i kind of get put off.masamune san's concept is amazing but i like major's serious portrayal more.

[aggie93]

I liked the manga a little too. Here are a couple of my masume studies:

http://a.imageshack.us/img339/5836/shirow3cg2.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img48/9946/shirow2dg4.jpg

[aggie93]

I doodled this study from the Manga issue of ImagineFX magazine last night.

I can see now it is off porportionately.


Pencil (hour)

http://a.imageshack.us/img192/6745/imageeup.jpg

[killermachine]

yea.also looks like you rushed when working on hand

[killermachine]

hey..just bumping this thread so it doesnt get locked. Where is everyone?

[aggie93]

Hey Killer,

My real work is got me very busy. All I have been doing is sketches of real life and no manga. How about you?

[killermachine]

yea its pretty much same with me cause of my new job since it doesnt involve drawing(only thinking) but im thinking making something manga-ish with new cg challenge though this concept it beyond my abilities

[killermachine]

got time to make a rough sketch types
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/killermachinez/indiangalcopy.jpg

[aggie93]

Christmas time here. I hope to get a chance to draw while I am off.

I like the highlights on her.

Merry Christmas.

[killermachine]

Hey hows everyone doing? long time no see

[nieaCry]

Hi there! This is my sketch. I'm going to colorize it.
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/7371/jgirl301.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/jgirl301.jpg/)

[killermachine]

hey nieaCry thats a nice sketch with nice composition.
Looking forward to the update :)

[nieaCry]

that's how it looks now
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/853/jgirl3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/jgirl3.jpg/)

[aggie93]

Hey guys,

I have been real busy with work, professional society, and doctorate school that I cannot draw.

The last drawing is coming along beautifully, nieacry. Are you going to render it more detailed?

[nieaCry]

I'v made a few changes. I think this is final image
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/853/jgirl3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/692/jgirl3.jpg/)

[killermachine]

thats great work. I really liked the strong shadow in rough though. Gave it a noir kind of feel. You can even make this in black n white.