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WGerick
04-12-2006, 08:04 PM
Hi,

this is my first attempt to do a matte painting. I took these 4 pics with my cell phone to use as my foreground:
Reference 1 (http://www.derwanja.de/MP/Ref_1.jpg)
Reference 2 (http://www.derwanja.de/MP/Ref_2.jpg)
Reference 3 (http://www.derwanja.de/MP/Ref_3.jpg)
Reference 4 (http://www.derwanja.de/MP/Ref_4.jpg)

I got all the others elemtens from a stock image site:
Stock.xchng (http://www.sxc.hu/home)

The image is almost finished. I'm planning to put some more buildings on top of the mountain. It took my around 6-7 hours: (Plz click to view high rez image)
What do you think?

http://www.derwanja.de/MP/Teufelsberg_link.jpg (http://www.derwanja.de/MP/Teufelsberg_small.jpg)

JJASSO
04-12-2006, 08:20 PM
welcome xintare, this is a great panorama painting, areial perspective is great, the elements are very well integrated , the background mountains and sky are excellent, keep up the good work ! I'll be looking forward to see those buildings you want to add

MystAvalon
04-12-2006, 09:19 PM
Hi,
Great job! I'm new at this too. You did a nice job with your blending.
Kelly

yellowdog
04-13-2006, 02:33 AM
great first attempt!!
Really good integration... I like the distorted effect brought by the lens used on the camera (phone)... Reminds me of some of the traditionnal animation BG old masters used to draw to simulate camera pans on multiplane cameras.

I'm curious to see how your going to evolve your piece... cant wait to see thoses buildings.

keep up the good work !

WGerick
04-13-2006, 10:56 PM
First of all, THX for the replies. I'm glad you like it.

I tried a lot of things with all sorts of buildings, but ended up with this rather simple solution.
One step at a time. I will add some more buildings on the left side.

So here is the update:

http://www.derwanja.de/MP/Teufelsberg2_link.jpg (http://www.derwanja.de/MP/Teufelsberg2_small.jpg)

RiKToR
04-13-2006, 11:30 PM
I think the itergration look really good. Couple things I have noticed though, the buildings look a little too dark at that distance the need some blue from the sky overlayed on top of them to set them back to the proper atmosperic perspective, I also notice that the the forgroud looks as thoug it was shot at full overcast, whey the sky is scattered clouds. It's a an easy fix to add random shadows. I took the liberty of creating a version with some of the changes I suggest to give you an idea of what I mean.


www.blurred-pixels.com/images/pntover.jpg (http://www.blurred-pixels.com/images/pntover.jpg)

arzo123
04-14-2006, 10:39 AM
very nice progress!!
what are your next steps what you want to do on it?
z

DarkstaR1st
04-14-2006, 02:07 PM
great piece of work... Love it.

Want to see more.

WGerick
04-14-2006, 02:50 PM
Thx to everybody for the replies.

@RiKToR: Thx for the suggestions. You were totally right. I changed the things you said. It's looking much better now.

@zoki: I found an old sea-thing model of mine and added some wings. Spend the morning rigging it and thats what I'm planning to do next:

http://www.derwanja.de/MP/Teufelsberg3_link.jpg (http://www.derwanja.de/MP/Teufelsberg3_small.jpg)

I will set the castle on fire and have some tiny figures on the walls defending it. The dragon in the middle will emit some fire and the front one will be heavily blurred. I thought about texturing the dragons but I think I'll rather paint them over.

Thats the plan so far. I hope you like it.

arzo123
04-14-2006, 02:54 PM
cool idea
its very complex and demannding!
maybe for the burning casyle would be better if its not such a bright sunny day?
z

DarkstaR1st
04-14-2006, 02:55 PM
I'm very excited to see more... like it a lot so far.

hightillidie
04-14-2006, 05:02 PM
woah! Talk about experience. I really like it, it looks like a small globe and it all adds up to greatness.

Cant wait to see what you come up with!

JJASSO
04-14-2006, 07:26 PM
xintare you are a very skilled artist , I like the new castle and the dragons idea, , I think you have a really smooth blend in your elements integration , it's looking pretty good, I definitly looking forward for the final version of it and for your future matte paintings

RiKToR
04-15-2006, 09:15 AM
I agree a night shot would show a lot more drama as well as a sunset. Looking good so far, I look foward to seeing the 3d elements when finished.

WGerick
04-15-2006, 11:07 PM
Thx again for all the c&c's.


@RiKToR and zoki: Maybe you are right. After finishing the 3D elements I will also try a sunset-night variation.

Right now I'm still busy with the dragon. For some reason I thought it would be fun to completly texture him instead of just painting over. I didn't really think about the amount of work. Well, now I'm on my way.
After laying out all the UVs I started building the texture. It's hard to find good references, so I have to paint a lot by hand. Since many of the techniques are the same at matte painting, I thought I show you what I'm doing right now. It's still very wip:

http://www.derwanja.de/MP/Dragon_Diff_001_link.jpg (http://www.derwanja.de/MP/Dragon_Diff_001.jpg)
http://www.derwanja.de/MP/Dragon_text_000_link.jpg (http://www.derwanja.de/MP/Dragon_text_000.jpg)
http://www.derwanja.de/MP/Dragon_text_001_link.jpg (http://www.derwanja.de/MP/Dragon_text_001.jpg)
http://www.derwanja.de/MP/Dragon_text_002_link.jpg (http://www.derwanja.de/MP/Dragon_text_002.jpg)

The reference for the head:
http://www.sxc.hu/photo/222046

So far it's a simple diffuse map. I will create a bump and spec map later and also a displacement map in ZBrush. Just to able to pose the dragon easily, I will rig him again and set all the positions needed for the image. As soon as all of this is finished, I will create all the fire elements in combustion and refine them in Photoshop.

And if I'll ever be able to do all of this, its really just a small step to do a little animation. ;)

I hope you like the way it's going.

JIII
04-16-2006, 02:34 PM
Very good work, you have a good sensiblity and don't try to create soemthing fantastic or weird, it's a very basic and simple creation you have here, and I really like it, great job. Not much to crit, very high quality.

-J3

Kutkin
04-16-2006, 06:04 PM
Looking nicer and nicer:thumbsup:

Looking forward to see your dragon finished!

Great work so far

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