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reiv
12-30-2002, 12:05 PM
Here is a picture from the manga - GUNNM (Battle Angel Atila) by Yukito Kishiro. That's what I'll do... with 3dsmax 5 ;)

reiv
12-30-2002, 12:07 PM
Here is the first update

ckaos@om
12-30-2002, 12:15 PM
Wow very good start and good concept of course (is there anything in Gunm that isn't ?) :thumbsup:
Could you post some other views and wires ?
For now i frankly don't have a lot to crit !
Keep those updates coming !!!:wip:

InnerVortex
12-30-2002, 12:40 PM
bhaaa.. u guys always get that great renders!! i wish i could..
well.. the concept is amazing and seems ur doing well, if u finish it concept wise or even better than it, it would be a really amazing work.
:D

jamihn
12-30-2002, 01:15 PM
yay Gally! can't wait to see the finished model.

reiv
12-30-2002, 06:13 PM
here is an update... wings r coming soon :)

Dirk_P_Ho
12-30-2002, 06:35 PM
Beautiful :eek:

*on edge of seat*

vizion
12-30-2002, 06:42 PM
looks very good. let's see it finished.

jamihn
12-30-2002, 06:46 PM
:bounce: fantastic there!

paconavarro
12-30-2002, 06:51 PM
MAN thats great!!!!

I want to see more :D

Remi
12-30-2002, 06:52 PM
Very nice work....will definitly be revisiting this to check on updates....great job:thumbsup:

garyturner
12-30-2002, 06:58 PM
arg! :surprised
its so, so... i like it!:D

.overflowed
12-30-2002, 07:55 PM
Great staff

What you done is unique 'couse very often the reference/skechetes are much more climatic and moody than renders espaciali test renders.

But your renders are great. And modeling skils are even better.

Can't wait for more

squidinc
12-30-2002, 08:05 PM
wow, this is already better than the drawing :buttrock:
really great work, keep going wanna see more :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :thumbsup:

Eugeny
12-30-2002, 09:02 PM
WOW :eek:
Great work, :thumbsup: I'm agree with squidinc - it's already better than the drawing :thumbsup:

el patator
12-30-2002, 09:46 PM
wow tres tres chouette,....je dirai juste de revoir les fesses qui me paraissent un brin volumineuses......

mais sinon chapo bas.

:buttrock:

Cheshire
12-30-2002, 10:25 PM
Its georgous, but why not keep the face true to the drawing?

CJ
12-30-2002, 10:43 PM
Whoah! Damn... Battle Angel is one of my fav. anime's ever. I almost got the picture you're modeling tattoo'd on me haha instead got one of her with angelic wings on her instead of metal ones. I can't wait to see more shots as the piece progresses! Keep it up!!! :eek: :bounce: :applause: :thumbsup: :D

anieves
12-30-2002, 11:13 PM
that's really beautiful. Good job. All I want is a large enough pic for my desktop when you are finished.:airguitar

diazgl
12-30-2002, 11:17 PM
well, i wont repeat the same all over, you know its good, just watch her butt a little, she has a shakira butt (huge). and I dont think you wanted that

piajartist
12-31-2002, 01:00 AM
Perfect example of how better CG looks with a good concept behind it, LOVE the concept.:beer:

lerpiedood
12-31-2002, 03:09 AM
That looks like it's really coming along, good job on the detailed mechanical stuff, and the face looks pretty good.

ChrRambow
12-31-2002, 03:23 AM
That's great! can't wait to see the final piece :applause:

anieves
12-31-2002, 03:50 AM
Originally posted by diazgl
well, i wont repeat the same all over, you know its good, just watch her butt a little, she has a shakira butt (huge). and I dont think you wanted that

What's up with all this latina ass stuff? I'm sick of hearing about this nonesense. First Jennifer Lopez now Shakira. Nothing wrong with that!
I have news for you; Shakira and JLO are latinas and that's what a latina butt looks like, and how the hell you know what he intended? Are you a palm reader or something?

Funny thing is that most of the men that complain about that would love to have a woman like the ones mentioned above and most of the women that complain and talk about them are just jealous.
:shame:

Aaron Moore
12-31-2002, 04:23 AM
excellent work. Thats some amazing detial that you have going for you...

Your choice of colours are excellent as well, fits the image quite nicely.

Cemeroon
12-31-2002, 10:07 AM
Superbe ! :love:
Même remarque pour les fesses: à affiner un peu.
Et légèrement changer l'expression, pour la faire paraitre un peu triste.

Sinon, chapeau et bonne continuation !

SILMAETH
12-31-2002, 10:38 AM
excellent!
really nice work!
I also think it's better than the original drawing.

je trouve juste que le plis de la jambe au niveau de la hanche devrai etre plus vers l'arriere.

félicitation

reiv
12-31-2002, 11:28 AM
wow thanx for all ur comments :thumbsup:
I'm now working on the wing. The mechanical partof the wing is finished but I dont know how to make the feathers. Do u have tips or ideas to make it?


(soz for my french english, hope u'll understand what it mean :) )

Bachelorette
12-31-2002, 11:39 AM
Tres belle modélisation, rien a voir avec la Gally minable des couvertures de la réedition grand format de Gunm, si t'as deja vu le truc.
Tu modélises directement dans cette position, ou tu la fait d'abord en position neutre?
Encore Bravo

Migibutt
12-31-2002, 01:17 PM
Oh my god.... Thats what i call awesome modeling. Wonderful work man! Hope u provide us with many many more shots of ur work! U really rock man!

Cheers Migi

MCronin
12-31-2002, 01:51 PM
Good work. I don't mind that you aren't making her look particularly "anime"-ish, but she's supposed to be like a 14 or 15 year old girl. The model you're making looks much more womanly: big hips, big posterior, thick thighs, older looking face, and just a grown up looking proportion of her head to her body (such as it is).

Microbe
12-31-2002, 05:17 PM
Superbe, c'est vraiment tres beau! :beer:

Pour les ailes peut etre que ce wing tutorial (http://www.jackals-forge.com/tutor/tut1.html) (link to a maya wing modeling/animation tutorial, mostly focused on animation) peu t'aider?...pas sure vu qu'il est fait dans maya :shrug:

Are you going to animate her? :drool: (sorry I'll try to behave next time)

Akimine
12-31-2002, 06:24 PM
YEAH !! sa déchire tout continue comme ça !!
Et vive Gunnm !! :thumbsup:

reiv
12-31-2002, 06:34 PM
sorry dont have time now to answer to all ur comments but thanx for all guys :)
Here's the wing

Talos
12-31-2002, 08:04 PM
i think it looks awesome the way it is, being more humaniod then anime.

personaly i don't like anime.

This is my personal fave.

awesome job keep us updated! :thumbsup:


i think i have just found my new background :beer:

Microbe
12-31-2002, 08:35 PM
Whoa, wings look beautiful :thumbsup:

CJ
12-31-2002, 09:54 PM
Righton! Comming along really nicely there man good job! :thumbsup:
On the wing though looks as though from like the middle to the end that the feathers come out or get longer. In the drawing I mean. Yours looks great with the feathers, but I think could use some filling out,. Right now they look kind of umm... weak for lack of a better word. She doesn't look as angelic or that she could actually take flight, ya know?
Either way it still is lookin awesome, I can't wait to see more more more! haha :bounce:

reiv
01-01-2003, 06:09 PM
Thanx for ur replys.
Here's an update whith hairs and wings.
I think that its more interesting to create a cyborg that looks human, that's why she looks like a woman and not match to the original picture.
I'll post wire soon :)

squidinc
01-01-2003, 06:13 PM
sweeeeeet :thumbsup:

azazel
01-01-2003, 06:25 PM
sweet sweet sweet :)

Now some crit:
- hair covers all these cute details inside her head, but that's unavoidable ;)
- feathers have dark fringes, little modification of alpha should help
- feathers need some variation, now they look all alike, that's bit disturbing
- that's all now, waiting for updates and wires ;)

coCoKNIght
01-01-2003, 06:25 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
PS. I love battle angel alita
PPS. Oh yeah, did I already mention that I love battle angel alita? :D

Talos
01-01-2003, 07:44 PM
i will have to agree with azazel on those points... i loved the postion of the face in the screen shot with out the hair and whatnot, i think that it would look better with more neat hair, but being able to see the cyborg stuff on her head.

NileshXYZ
01-01-2003, 10:40 PM
ohhhh, ahhhhh... auuuuuu....
Looks like FRONT PAGE WORK! good work, my 3d level is not good as you. few things i like:

Face and hair look so good.
pose i like too!
love to see some Dynamic lighting! for final render

mash
01-02-2003, 12:43 AM
eXcellent Job! :surprised

Can't wait to see the final version.

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

:thumbsup:

xolvierx
01-02-2003, 04:41 AM
Awesome!

FLyingMango
01-02-2003, 05:15 AM
the feel so fantasy!!!!!!reallly like it man!!!keep it up!

Manicalavera15
01-02-2003, 08:25 AM
III LLLOOOVVVEEE IIITTT !!!





WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH !

good. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

FINISH HER !!!

GUNNM'S RULEZ !!!

(work ambiant's color, the model is too similar with the background.)

oyo !

Manicalavera15
01-02-2003, 08:27 AM
another little crit : work on the head..

i mean, it's to realistic one, not like the true Gally...perhaps you wanna make like that...but what about 2 versions...one with the manga head, and another with yours..


good luck !

devonpis
01-02-2003, 08:36 AM
it's just great!!!:wip:

coCoKNIght
01-02-2003, 09:34 AM
oh yeah, a second vs. of her as the true Gally would be great :D
POST AN UPDATE! :wip:

anieves
01-02-2003, 05:13 PM
ahhhhh! no hair! or at least less hair, the details on the back of the head are awesome!

squintik
01-02-2003, 07:22 PM
yeah ! excellent ! super boulot sur les ailes en plus :thumbsup:

psumo
01-02-2003, 07:36 PM
looks great

I think you should make her look younger
though

Akimine
01-02-2003, 07:38 PM
ce que je trouve le plus impressionnant c'est le travail sur les structures métaliques et les plumes
Magnifique !!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :)

Projectkmo
01-02-2003, 07:50 PM
very nice!! if ya can, when you get done, post links to some Higher res shots...the ole 40k limit here does not do your work justice!!

CJ
01-02-2003, 11:26 PM
I'm a huge Alita fan and pretty much bout the only crit I can find at all is the bottom feathers bother me... aside from the feathers looking a bit dark around the edges with the alpha mapping, the bottom row of feathers all seem to bend back in towards the body, when they should be aiming more out...
I'm at work so I can't circle the part in the image to make it clearer to what I mean... but the flow of the feathers is like

\\\\\\\\\\\\
\\\\\\\\\\\\\
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
////////////// <---
////////////// <---

The top half look good, just the rotation of the feathers on the bottom row look off...:shrug:

NelsonInomvan
01-03-2003, 12:11 AM
Man this one relly rocks :airguitar Aaaaa awesome :eek:

btw i agree whit psumo i got to make her look more younger

ThirdEye
01-03-2003, 11:40 AM
This is totally awesome, if you'll animate this it will be an extraordinary piece of art!

reiv
01-03-2003, 01:23 PM
Thanx for your replys :thumbsup:
I'll modify the feathers for the next post ( alpha and angle)
The background should represent a dump. What do you think of the lightning/backgroud, framing? cause the final picture will probably look like this one.
Thx again, cu :)

Akimine
01-03-2003, 01:31 PM
G.E.N.I.A.L !!!
:applause: :applause: :applause:
on voit même les cheminées de la décharge au loin c'est tres complet bravo :thumbsup:

Manicalavera15
01-03-2003, 01:45 PM
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
LOVELYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

BUT CREATE another MODEL with manga head plz !:bounce:


wanna dedicace on your screen plz give me one give me one !:beer: :beer: :beer:



like Onizuka would say : GURETOOO !!!

azazel
01-03-2003, 02:10 PM
I think it's much too dark, all tese details get lost in shadows, and her face need some extra lightning to pop-up

The dump is bit too uniform and blurry (maybe that's due to compression), and again details of hands, arms are getting lost...

The sky is very nice, moody ;)

I suggest some strong, colored lightsource from left/right side (whichever you like) + some local sources, to lit the face for example.

I think it needs more dramatic composition, maybe bit different camera angle ( slightly more front, less side view)

Are you planning any textures on her?

And of course, bounceys, beers, and smiles... great work


:bounce: :beer: :) :thumbsup:

Spliff_Richards
01-03-2003, 02:44 PM
Really nice modeling, she looks a bit like Björk:)

Baldasseroni
01-03-2003, 02:50 PM
I`m a huge fun of Alita too, and i love your model.
My advice would be to give your personal touch to her...leaving apart the composition of that cover, it`s not worth to replicate it...try a different camera angle, experiment with lights, you made a lot of interesting mechanism...try to make them in highlight!

Ale

Cemeroon
01-03-2003, 02:54 PM
I totally agree with Azazel, the lighting is far from the 2 first pictures and hide details and expression of the model.

You should make a closer view of the model, like the original sketch of Kishiro.

But it's quite already fantastic...

P.S.: Et moi aussi, je veux bien une image haute résolution quand ce sera fini ! :love: :bounce:
L'image est déjà merveilleuse... :drool:

Akimine
01-03-2003, 03:06 PM
J'ai trouve mon fond d'ecran :drool:

Manicalavera15
01-03-2003, 03:06 PM
hey cemeroon, go back 3dvf ! this screen dedicated will be MINe !!!:buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:


keep it upppp man :thumbsup:

yo:D

chi
01-03-2003, 06:41 PM
the modeling is excellent, minus the wings...i think the placement and texture of the feathers is way off...there too soft and messy at the same time?? if that makes sense...fix the wings and tweak the lighting and it will be near perfect

ecko
01-03-2003, 07:13 PM
i realy love it cool work dude :eek: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Flaviosen
01-03-2003, 07:16 PM
this is one of those pics i would like to have in a massiv rez and print to have on my wall ( not the one with the background but the one in grey(LUVED THAT ONE))

ur a great artist :love:

coCoKNIght
01-03-2003, 07:21 PM
Your picture is already on my desktop :beer:

psumo
01-03-2003, 07:24 PM
plz get rid of that super bright sky
it over powers her especially when
she is lit so dimly

She need a stronger rim lights (hair and wings gets lost)
and probably a brighter key to shape her and make
her less flat

The composition looks weird with half sky where nothing
is really going on

I would bring the camera down

try to fix this
you have such a great model (she still looks too old to be alita)

hope this helps

CJ
01-03-2003, 07:33 PM
I think I'd like to request a wallpaper of this when you are done! :D

CHRiTTeR
01-03-2003, 07:42 PM
*gulp* ME LIKES IT !!! :bounce:


What software and renderer?

diazgl
01-03-2003, 09:36 PM
well, in reply to my friend anieves What's up with all this latina ass stuff? I'm sick of hearing about this nonesense. First Jennifer Lopez now Shakira. Nothing wrong with that!
I just commented based on the concept art that was provided at the start of the thread. Based on that, i beliveve that the character has been attribituted with a larger butt. As MCronin said, she looks more womanly, whereas the concept art shows a more girly body.

Nevertheless, the image is great, that is the only detail that strikes to me as wrong, or better yet not as aesthetic.

coCoKNIght
01-04-2003, 09:25 AM
I just wanted to point out that I first thought you were achieving a similar look as the original drawing but obviously this is not the case. As every good artist you're interpreting the motif your own way and I've absolutely no critique to say. Your work is great and all the talking 'bout her butt makes me sick!

reiv
01-05-2003, 01:06 PM
update!!

coCoKNIght
01-05-2003, 01:10 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek:
You're the man!
AWESOME :buttrock:

squidinc
01-05-2003, 01:38 PM
genius :thumbsup:
but I wanna see a bigger version :bounce: :bounce:

azazel
01-05-2003, 02:56 PM
much much better now :):thumbsup:
but dump is still not good enough, it's not same quality and style as the girl

nanabaky
01-05-2003, 11:08 PM
wow excellent work ! very impressive...

toobad, what you've done behind the head is useless ^^

CJ
01-06-2003, 12:56 AM
WOOHOO! :bounce: Awesome job man!!! Yes yes bigger image hehe I want a wallpaper :) Great work!:applause: :beer:

MGCJerry
01-06-2003, 01:52 AM
WOW :drool:

I'd definately love to see a bigger render ;)

boxcrash
01-06-2003, 03:37 AM
absolutely amazing.

Battle Angel is what first got me hooked on Anime.
I resembles more of photorealistic interpretation of it.
Great!!!:) :buttrock: :surprised

hiko_
01-06-2003, 07:52 AM
Superbe boulot reiv :thumbsup:

Cemeroon
01-06-2003, 11:31 AM
Wallpaper ! Wallpaper ! :beer:
don't listen Manicalavera, he's on 3dvf too ! ;)

reiv
01-06-2003, 12:16 PM
Lit wireframes!

reiv
01-06-2003, 12:35 PM
Here is the high rez picture, enjoy :)

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/reiv/imgup/gallywp1.jpg

diazgl
01-06-2003, 12:51 PM
simply amazing work. (i still hold my oppinion bout the butt, but doesn't make much difference, does it?)

CHRiTTeR
01-06-2003, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by reiv
Here is the high rez picture, enjoy :)

http://www.reiv.fr.st/imgup/gallywp1.jpg


Wooohooooo!!! thx!!!


My desktop looks so nice now ;)

Manicalavera15
01-06-2003, 01:11 PM
my wish is realised :)

i can die now

thx;) reiv

RiotManZ
01-06-2003, 01:16 PM
HELL! This is awesome:eek: :eek: :eek:
Did you just have the pic out of the manga as a reference?!?
I think i have to go to your homepage now! If you only had one

:annoyed:

RESPECT!!!

Cemeroon
01-06-2003, 01:23 PM
What an awesome work... :drool:
Thx a lot for the hirez pic and the wireframe...

Et cette fois, les plumes sont nickels :thumbsup:

azazel
01-06-2003, 02:13 PM
Thanks for the big pic :applause:

but please do something with background ;)

nanabaky
01-06-2003, 05:11 PM
ouais tien, comment t'as fais les plumes ?? un tutorial kelke part ?

english wrong version : wonderful plucks !

phishmann
01-06-2003, 11:07 PM
i love this scene. The complexity of the character is great.
:eek:

The only thing in my opinion that i would change a bit would be the lighting. Some of the character seems to fade in with the background a bit. I think that if you would make her brighter it would make a larger impact on how impressive and awe inspiring she is.

The picture that i have attached is an example of what im talking about. The person in the middle draws our attention because he has a higher contrast with the rest of the image and gives us a sense that he was a very important person that people looked up to.

You dont have to take my advice if you dont wont to because obviously you are a great artist. :thumbsup:

reiv
01-18-2003, 06:52 PM
I'm back from exams :p so here is an up. The head is bigger, the face looks younger and more manga-styled. The sky is different, and the character is more lit.
Now about the plucks: each one is a low poly sphere with planar mapping. The material is realy basic with opacity/difuse/bump/specular and filter map for the whole wing.
I made the plucks one by one duplicated & scaled manualy.

Thelios
01-18-2003, 06:54 PM
really great job:thumbsup:

coCoKNIght
01-18-2003, 06:58 PM
I liked the other version bettr, but this one is still WIP. I think the hear needs some changes so it fits to the anime head, give it more volume. Just you keep on posting, your image is still my desktop wallpager :thumbsup:

CJ
01-20-2003, 08:24 PM
I like! :beer: This mean an updated wall paper? hehe :p

LoneLobo
01-20-2003, 09:14 PM
This is just an amazing piece of work!!

you rock like hell :D:buttrock: :buttrock:

hanzo
01-20-2003, 09:19 PM
I live for art like that :bounce:, Great Job!

fleedawg
01-20-2003, 09:47 PM
I really love this one. I've never seen the anime, but the intricate detail in this is simply magnificent.

LittleFenris
02-18-2003, 05:20 PM
wow, what an amazing model.

how long has it taken you to get it to this point? (in hours ;)) also, what program are you using? (just curious) one other question...why didn't you keep the face of the model the same as the anime girl?

harly
02-18-2003, 07:31 PM
Damn, why haven´t I seen that before? My favourite manga heroine goes 3d!!!
I prefer the Anime look though, but it´s Ok when you make her look more realistic as your artistic interpretaion of the original-
but I wouldn´t take away that innocent look on Gallys/Alitas face-that´s one of her main characteristic.The lighting needs additional work, it´s still too flat-
the new feathers are much better-I am sure after some fixes here and there and that thing will turn out as a great piece!!!

Edouard
02-19-2003, 09:14 AM
Whow.. It's better then the chick in the movie..and I really liked that one too...nice work.

Can you show me some wires.

nick
02-19-2003, 11:03 AM
Very nice work i must say :) I always loved that anime, that peice of artwork translated into 3d very well. I would say the only thing i would critique is the sky it looks alil simple but overall i would say thats not important cause the modelling and figure really overtakes that!!!!

Darkmesh
02-19-2003, 12:00 PM
Cool;) Do you Know Masamune Shirow, he has also Designs which you may Like ;)

hanzo
02-19-2003, 11:14 PM
this is Excellent work, like I said before but....not to be compared to the origional :scream: IT'S NOT THE SAME MEDIOM....:thumbsdow:annoyed:

FallenSwordsman
02-20-2003, 07:13 AM
Don't know if you know this already but the guy who drew the original Battle Angel Alita has also done a few 3D works of his own.

His website is at:

http://www.interq.or.jp/drums/tsutomu/E-top/E-frame.html

He uses Shade but I don't think his 3D stuff is as good as yours.

hanzo
02-20-2003, 06:21 PM
thanks, FallenSwordsman love the link, in any case seeing more
3d transelations wouldn't change my perspective on the subject
We shouldn't compare the two their 2 different art forms, like
comparing Neon Genisus to the matrix, witch is the better movie?
you can't do it..

buzzlightyr
02-21-2003, 04:52 AM
man oh man your good:airguitar

Eman597
02-21-2003, 05:32 AM
As its been said, AMAZING WORK. I really like how closely you followed your concept, good job :thumbsup:

ninjacore
02-21-2003, 10:14 AM
magic!

SpaceFork
02-21-2003, 10:38 AM
Nice work man, amazing

lovekat
03-18-2004, 09:58 AM
Hey I like you modeling, it' look nice... can't wait for wireframe version.... Please post it if you have time...

VelvetDragon
03-18-2004, 12:59 PM
Really great model ! :)

Please Mr Reiv, could you post a Wire of the model, especially of the wing and feathers ?

Thx ! :)

nmx
04-11-2004, 12:33 AM
great stuff ,EXEPT in my opinion the wings they should be fuller like those 18th centuary paintings , they should look capable of carrying the girl , big dirty white brown swanish wings maybe.

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