Character: Roman Head

[WickerMan]

nice work!
what software and modeling technique have you used?

And to be a little critical:

Is that border on the side of the head supposed to be there?
It doesn't look natural.

I look forward to seeing the end result with texture and proper lightning...

:beer:

[Jason-Kane]

Thanks!! :beer:

I use Maya 4.0 and I just use good old fashion polygonal box modeling.

The border on the side of the head was just a temporary indicator of where the hairline might be. It was just for my own reference while I was working. He will eventually have a steel helmet on which will cover all of that anyway.

Thanks Again,

Jason Kane
:D

[LordGolem]

Wow, great model! I like it!
He remembers me Mel Brooks :D

Have you used references?

[Anders G]

woah, thats great modelling

he definetly looks like a guy that could be a centurion, can't wait to see the helmet, and the other things missing :)

[gimpgutter]

LOL before i read ur post LordGolem, i thought that looked alot like Mel Brooks, then i though i might be seeing things. Guess not. Anyway, that model is loaded with accuracte detail. I can't wait to see it wit the added tisbits and killer skin on him! :buttrock:

[S E D A H]

Nice model Kane...............but if he is a centurian you are bettre to put him a little younger he looks like for me 50 years old..........but if you made him like Cesar he looks perfect for me........keep it up

[Jason-Kane]

Thanks,

That is funny... Mel Brooks :applause:

I did not use one reference I used about 8 different faces and even made some of it up.

I agree with the younger thing. At this point I have to move on and put the armor on him, but if he still looks way too old then I will make him look younger. :)

Jason Kane
www.kanecg.com

[Jason-Kane]

I forgot to mention that most of my reference was from actual sculpture made during the time of the roman empire. I thought this would set the right mood.

[LordGolem]

Indeed, the model really seems an imperial sculpture so you got it :thumbsup:
I'm Italian, I often see roman sculptures, I know well their look! :D

[Jason-Kane]

I really admire classic Roman sculpture. While modeling this I was really amazed at their knowledge of anatomy and the attention to detail. It makes me wonder if Renaissance artists ever really captured the full glory of Roman sculpture.

[mushroomgod]

very nice...look forward to seeing him finished:applause:

[Johnlittle]

Looks good,make him a bit younger,just somemore tweaking. It will be intereting seeing it finished,keep going :wip: :wip: . Good work.:thumbsup:

[DougG]

very nice modeling job, keep goin!:applause:

[Mickeloviche]

Awesome job! I think you should make him a little younger though...

[Jason-Kane]

Thank you for all your advice. I am currently working on the next update and will post it when it is ready.

:)

[robioto]

Very nice looking head.

Could we also see a wireframe <I'd love to see the flow lines> and get a poly count?

[vizion]

hmmm, nice character, but seems more jewish than roman. The nose is too low in the front.

[folau]

Really nice! the modeling is really organic!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: finish the ears and its ready to texture!!

[BiTMAP]

possibly fatting out his lower face ?? Thats the only thing i noticed is that he seems a bit to slim at his lower jaw.

[Spliff_Richards]

I really like it, he´s got character. I think he looks like a powerfull senator.

[Jason-Kane]

Here is the next installment. I have detailed the ears and obviously added this helmet. The helmet is not complete due to the fact that it is missing a rear plate. That and more will be in the next update. Please enjoy! :D

http://www.kanecg.com/images/Face_comp2.jpg

The story I plan to animate with this character calls for an unrewarded, weathered Roman soldier in his late 30's. He is meant to look somewhat evil and somewhat sinister. I think that will come more from the morph targets. As of now he has a blank expression.

I will post the mesh with the next update.

:) :) :)

[Culann]

This looks really promising! You captured the roman spirit perfectly.
Keep going :thumbsup:

[Jason-Kane]

:) This is the latest update. Whew! Tomorrow I will start modeling the body. Hope you like it!:p

http://www.kanecg.com/images/Face_comp3.jpg

Still need to get around to posting the mesh. Sorry for the delay. :D

[forgetful]

Hey Jason, great work as usual. I have to disagree with the comment about making him look younger. I believe if you live a hard life then it ages you considerably. Also, if I remember correctly from my art history classes;) That the romans believed that every line and bulge in your face had meaning and a past. I think you've nailed the look of a veteran roman soldier.

[chlywly]

I totaly love how it's looking :) It has a very sculptural look to it, not sure if this was meant or not, but I like it.

If you want it to look a little more realistic, try to smooth out some of the curves especially around the nose, even though you are doing the whole roman stereo type, his face is a little jagged.

:) Good work.:bounce:

[Remi]

Very cool.....:thumbsup:


We want chilly willy.....we want chilly willy
:thumbsup: :surprised

[chlywly]

Originally posted by Remi
Very cool.....:thumbsup:


We want chilly willy.....we want chilly willy
:thumbsup: :surprised
:)

[dtrimble]

Wow!!, he's looking great, keep at it!!!

[CJ]

Wow that is looking reeeheeeheeeallly good. Can't wait to see it textured! Though with the one that's already there it looks like a metal sculpture :P

[Hexodam]

WOW:applause:

wires wires wires

[IDownupI]

how mant polys soo far?

[Jason-Kane]

So far the head an helmet are 7,000 polys unsmoothed.

[BiTMAP]

holy crap, my male torso front was about 7k+ smoothed 2x!

[Jason-Kane]

I work professionally as a character modeler at a video game studio. Our character models are relatively high poly but it is still very annoying to have to work with in game poly counts. This cinematic project was a personal project that allowed me to be liberated from those low counts. I am still able to easily move this mesh around with wire deformers in Maya and my render time was only 30 seconds a frame at the smoothed count of 48,000 polys. I am not suffering from any hits in performance at all. I am also very skilled at managing huge scenes and will use layers and referenced objects to manage the scene. I also may end up doing some compositing for this.

BTW... My friend works at a studio as a character modeler also and he is honestly told to model his characters to be 100,000 polys. He models lip texture, wrinkles, veins, pimples and even some pores. :D :D

[nervous_twitch]

I love it, so much character in that face! He looks like he's worked his way up the legionary rankings to become a commander of sorts. He is of the perfect age as well.

While I eagerly await the finished product, would you mind sharing one unsmoothed wireframe? That would be delightful.

[edit] Just explored your little corner of the web and saw your light demonstration. It was fantastic! Any lighting tips to share? Favorite setups? Workflows?

[Jason-Kane]

This mesh looks really heavy, but I promise that I will be able to actually move this beast around and actually animate it.
:D

http://www.kanecg.com/images/wire.jpg

[nervous_twitch]

Great! Thank you very much. Can't wait to see him live.

[Deth Jester]

Kane you are an animal.. I swear do you ever sleep! This is Mike the intern... I was just cruising CgTalk.. didn't know you posted your side work here.. Lookin tight!

peace bro..

Can't wait to see this guy finished!

[Jason-Kane]

X Intern Mike,

Yeah, I was wondering if you would be on here. Thanks for the encouragement. I typically don't post anything on here, but I just thought I could use some crit as I went along on this project. Plus this is my own stuff so I can actually legally post it.

You can find my email on my website.

:beer:

[Jason-Kane]

Another modeler I know found his model on someone esles demo reel. He never released the 3D file, but he did post registered front and side views of the smoothed wireframe. I have also read articles about software that samples a model from images of wireframes and personally understand the math behind this.

For this reason I have taken the wireframe offline.

Sorry.

[Jason-Kane]

This is still a WIP. :) I have made a list of things I intend on completing at the bottom of this post.

:)

.http://www.kanecg.com/images/roman_comp_small.jpg
-Articulate the anatomy on the hands and arms. At present they are merely a block in.
-Model veins, tendons, and skin wrinkles into the legs and feet. Also define Toes.
-Model detail into fabric on sleeves and the back of skirt. Also, tear rips in skirt and make it flow dynamically with the pull of the gladius holster.
-Model a gladius sword and diagonal shoulder strap leather holster.
-Model belt with dagger and canteen attached.
-Model Sandals.
-Beat up armor by adding dents and scratches.
-Model Spear and Shield.
-Model Gauntlets or Bracers.
-Add scraps of undergarment fur tunic protruding from under skirt.
-Connect neck and model wrinkled tunic protruding from armor by neck area.
-Most Obvious... Add eyes.
-Ultimately, beat up dent and scar everything. Add some more random asymmetry

[ThirdEye]

this is really a great modeling work, great attention to detail, best wishes! :thumbsup:

[Antropus]

WOW Jason!
No crits...
Very nice model man! I'm waiting for updates. :thumbsup:

[dondixon]

I tell ya you are getting freakin amazing!!! I mean damn! keep it up man!!

DON

[LustRazor]

:buttrock:

[LustRazor]

Truly excellent work!

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