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RobertoOrtiz

04-07-2006, 05:40 AM

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Dont forget to suggest topic for our next challenge:

CLICK (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=353231) HERE FOR MORE INFORMATION! (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=353231)

The next challenge will be a comp challenge.
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Ok I added the votes:
Here are the winners!

Best Composite Work, Best Editing

Mathew Foscarini (mustan9)
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http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4439/image0112a5uc.jpg
Comments:
Description: My entry takes place during an illegal street race when a renegade pollice officer attempts to stop it (based upon a scene from the 1988 anime film Akira).

WIP Thread:
FXWARS: THE RACE! Mathew Foscarini (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=344128)
Animation:
QuickTime 720x480 (54Megs)
http://www.mathew3d.com/fxwars/Math...RS(720x480).mov (http://www.mathew3d.com/fxwars/MathewFoscarini_FXWARS%28720x480%29.mov)

QuickTime 360x240 (24Megs)
http://www.mathew3d.com/fxwars/Math...RS(360x240).mov (http://www.mathew3d.com/fxwars/MathewFoscarini_FXWARS%28360x240%29.mov)
Technical Info:
Entry Catagory: Fantasy Race
Software used: 3D Studio Max, and Combustion
Length: 54 seconds

AND THE winner!
Best Animation , Best Visual Effects & Best Overall ENTRY!:
http://66.242.144.2/cupFX.gif

David Schoneveld (destruct007) & Burke Roane ____________________________________________
http://agentfx.com/fxWars/rallyCar_A07.jpg
Comments:
Ok, I'd love more time to work on this before submitting it, here it is, my final entry. I'm planning on continuing to working on this, to make it even better! Hope you guys dig it.
I really enjoyed this challenge, I know I got a lot out of it! You guys were great in supporting me and giving a lot of great feedback, thanks to all of you, esp, Mathew and Jason, for all your thoughtful input. I can't wait to take this scene to the next level. And on to the next challenge!!! Good Luck to all!

WIP Thread:
FXWARS! THE RACE: David Schoneveld (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=342619)
Animation:
8 megs, sorenson3, quicktime.
http://agentfx.com/fxWars/davidScho...xWars640480.mov (http://agentfx.com/fxWars/davidSchoneveld_fxWars640480.mov)

Congrats to the winners!

-R

Here are the official standings:

Best Composite Work

1st. David Schoneveld (destruct007)
2nd. Mathew Foscarini (mustan9)
3.rd Yann Goument, Russel Etheridge, Mathew Foscarini, David Schoneveld

Best Animation

1st. David Schoneveld (destruct007)
2nd. Mathew Foscarini (mustan9)
3.rd David Schoneveld

Best Editing

1st. Mathew Foscarini (mustan9)
2nd. David Schoneveld (destruct007)
3rd. Russell Etheridge (Russta)

Best Visual Effects

1st. David Schoneveld (destruct007)
2nd. Mathew Foscarini (mustan9)
3rd. Mathew Foscarini (mustan9)

Best Overall Entry

1st. David Schoneveld (destruct007)
2nd. Mathew Foscarini (mustan9)
3rd. Yann Goument (Yan)

Legacy post_______________________

Looking for a team?
THE RACE! SIGNUP LIST: Post here those who are looking for partners/teams (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=317330)

We are looking for Matte Painters, Technical Directors, Visual Effects Supervisors, Modellers & Animators!

CgTalk:FXWars! The Race!

Technical Direction War

A race is a competition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competition) of speed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed). The competitors in a race try to complete a given task in the shortest amount of time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time). Typically this involves traversing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traversing) some distance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distance), but it can be any other task involving speed.

A race to cover a certain distance may be any length, and using any means stipulated by the rules. Running (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running) a distance is the most basic form of racing, but races are often conducted in vehicles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle), such as boats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boat) and cars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile), on or with animals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal) such as horses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse) and in aircraft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft).

A race may be run continuously from start to finish or may be made of several segments called heats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_(racing)) or stages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stage_(bicycle_race)). A heat is usually run over the same course at different times. A stage is a shorter section of a much longer course or a time trial (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual_time_trial).

Early records of races are evident on pottery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pottery) from ancient Greece (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greece), which depicted running men vying for first place. A chariot race (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariot_racing) is described in Homer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homer)'s Iliad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliad).

THE CHALLENGE:

Do a sequence of a race, during it there has to be a realistic vehicle crash. The race has to involve some sort of manned vehicle.

Think of the challenge this way, you have been tasked with doing the visual effects for a race and you have a VERY short dateline. So creativity is key.

Since the topic is so broad, we have limited the scope to three mayor categories:

Historical Racing (Imagine doing a 1930's car race or better yet, an ancient Roman chariot race. This kind of entry requires lots of attention to detail. )

Contemporary Racing (Imagine Formula One cars running at speeds over 200 MPH in the Montreal grand Prix or NASCAR cars racing the oval at the
Dover racetrack in Virginia. Hell you can even do go-cart races the idea is that the challenge has to have a basis on an existing league.)

Fantasy Racing (Imagine a futuristic race going up walls, or a maglev race involving flying cars.. The key for this kind of entry is imagination, lots of it. And please no space crafts, we will do those in a future challenge..)
Since this is a Technical Direction War you have to add a scene in your animation that has a realistic crash or pileup of vehicles. You may do completely cg sequences or a composite shots with filmed sequences and or plate. Because of the high level of difficulty, It is STRONGLY encouraged that this challenge be done in teams. Multiple techniques could be used to produce the shots (3D models, matte painting, live action, photographs etc) so good integration of composite elements is key. This is an excellent opportunity for technical directors to try their skills.

At the end pf the challenge a finished entry that looks EXACTLY like either a scene we might see on a movie like Driven (Contemporary) or in a historical movie like Ben Hur (historical), or the pod race in Star Wars ( fantasy). Since the contest of high difficulty you will have ONE month and a 1/2 to do the challenge.

TYPE OF ENTRIES:

Historical Racing (Difficulty Level HIGH)
Imagine you are driving

More emphasis on research of vehicles, tracks and environments
Emphasis on editing, lighting and cinematography.
The scenes in the entry require good flow and good camera work
Contemporary Racing ( Difficulty Level HIGH)
Imagine you are driving

Emphasis on editing, lighting and cinematography.
The scenes in the entry require good flow and good camera work
The interaction of individual and the environment must be realistic.
Fantasy Racing : (Difficulty Level MODERATE)

Let you imagination roam free on this one. The key for this king of entry is good camera work/ editing and lots of imagination.
For ideas, chek these threads at the Daily Sketch Forum:
CgTalk Daily Sketch 670 THE 50 MINUTE SKETCH: "Race Track:2050" (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=342357)
CgTalk Daily Sketch 669 THE 25 MINUTE SKETCH: "Race Car" (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=341877)
CgTalk Daily Sketch 668 THE 30 MINUTE SKETCH: "Race Car CRASH" (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=341356)
The best animation/short will be selected by an open vote
for these categories:

Best Composite Work
Best Animation
Best Editing
Best Visual Effects)
Best Overall Entry
The winner will get bragging rights and a small banner
designed by me.

DATELINE: Monday MAY 22th 12:00 PM

YOU HAVE ONE MONTH AND A 1/2 to do the challenge.I would recomend to use the last TWO WEEKS for rendering.

CHALLENGE SPECIFIC RULES:

No work taken DIRECTLY from an existing tutorial. You may use an existing tutorial only for reference.
You may use a pre exiting models and filmed footage, as long as you have the rights to use them. If you use pre existing material CREDIT the source.
You may provide a heavily edited animation with all the trimmings, as long a you provide a written shot sequence OR a storyboard of your work.
Remember the key of the challenge if for you guys to brush up on your simulation/ TD skills.
GENERAL RULES:

The animation and simulations (if any) must have been done AFTER the topic has been
announced.
WIP are encouraged if they are posted in ANOTHER
thread. Please provide a link to them on this thread.
WIP thread should be posted on the FXWARS Forum forum and should follow
the following naming convention: FXWars! THE RACE!: MY NAME, TYPE OF ENTRY (Note: Group entries are allowed)
It is Recommended that Final movies should be rendered at 320 x 240 or 640 x 480 in QuickTime* format (Sorenson Compression), but other resolutions and formats are allowed. * The animation format is open for discussion.
The animation should follow the following naming convention:
MYNAME_FXWARS(RESOLUTION).mov. And please add your name at the beginning and end of the animation, and if you can, also add a small non disruptive watermark during the animation.
If for some reason, you can't host movies, sequential images (Thumbnails size 160 x 120 ) are accepted.
Please add a brief text description about your piece.
The artist also has to post total length of time it took and program used.
Collaborative pieces are accepted and encouraged, but Teams entries must have a identifying banner and a name. Shot lists should be included with the entry.
Individuals participating in a team CAN have their own individual entries.
The topics will be picked at random from the list on
this >>thread << (The author will be given credit). So
guys keep them coming.
Post on this thread your link to your WIP thread and your FINAL piece.
You can add multiple entries, as long as they have different WIP threads.
Only participants who follow the rules and submit a final entry will be elegible for the voting process.
Any piece caught breaking the rules will be taken
off the thread.
Footage:

Race Track Plates

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=Race%20Track&fr=FP-tab-web-t360&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8 (http://www.photonewyork.com/)Race Cars:

http://ferraristuff.com/media/ferrari+f399+formula+one+brochure+1445+99+01.jpg (http://ferraristuff.com/media/ferrari+f399+formula+one+brochure+1445+99+01.jpg)
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=formula+one+cars&ei=UTF-8&fr=FP-tab-web-t360&x=wrt
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=nascar+Cars&ei=UTF-8&fr=FP-tab-web-t360&x=wrt

Reference:

Videos

moyenne res. (http://javascript%3cb%3e%3c/b%3e:PopupCentrer('cinetv/cinetv3.php?IDfilm=1586&IDextrait=1647&typext=real&run=moyenne res.',800,600,'menubar=no,scrollbars=auto,resizable=1,statusbar=0');) (5.03 Mb)

http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2453844?htv=12 (http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2453844?htv=12)

http://www.arctic.uoguelph.ca/cpe/environments/location_image/satellite_map_frame.htm (http://www.arctic.uoguelph.ca/cpe/environments/location_image/satellite_map_frame.htm)
http://www.stormvideo.com/footage.html (http://www.stormvideo.com/footage.html)
http://www.mthurricane.com/blizzard_video.htm (http://www.mthurricane.com/blizzard_video.htm)
http://blogtelevision.net/p/Watch-Video-Storm-Swallows-MINI-Whole___1,2,,9726.html (http://blogtelevision.net/p/Watch-Video-Storm-Swallows-MINI-Whole___1,2,,9726.html)

Good Luck

-R

Russta

04-07-2006, 10:28 AM

thats crazy, i already started an animation for uni of this exact thing! And the deadline is around the same time too! will definately enter this if i can! looking forward to other peoples stuff too, good luck everyone :thumbsup:

SOE digital

04-07-2006, 02:23 PM

Awsome idea for a challange!
I'll sign up ASAP.

kr3ml

04-07-2006, 03:41 PM

I want to join this badly :scream: , just came up with some scenes in my head already

but...

lots of other stuff I am busy with at the moment, the major one is work ofcource... :sad:

maby ill try too scueeze some free time for this

gra7

04-07-2006, 03:46 PM

we're in again..
:beer:

mustan9

04-07-2006, 03:48 PM

THis sounds like a really good one to do.

Mojo Rizen

04-07-2006, 05:46 PM

I may not have sufficient time to enter this contest, but I do look forward to viewing it. Some where there is a reference to “Driven”. If you are not familiar with motorsports don’t put any stock on the crash scenes, if you want to make something realistic.

Seat time and experience will be a benefit if you want to do thing realistically. Great street cars, still are not as potent as a dedicated race machine.

If you want open wheel footage, the Long Beach Grand Prix is on 4/9/06. Watch the details.

Good luck everyone.

RobertoOrtiz

04-07-2006, 05:54 PM

So you know guys, entries DO not have to be UBER complicated.
For example you can do a challenge with SOAPBOX racers or
Go Karts

-R

Mojo Rizen

04-07-2006, 05:59 PM

This is true. Ever race a go kart? A race kart would be interesting, and much tougher then a amusement park kart. But then again, you could do an amusement park kart.

RobertoOrtiz

04-07-2006, 06:03 PM

Amusement cars are ok too,
and also chek out some of the cool desings that have been posted on the DSF for the fantasy entries:

CgTalk Daily Sketch 670 THE 50 MINUTE SKETCH: "Race Track:2050" (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=342357)
CgTalk Daily Sketch 669 THE 25 MINUTE SKETCH: "Race Car" (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=341877)

http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/7632/racecar1kj.jpg

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3575/racecar37wl.jpg

Bonedaddy

04-07-2006, 06:27 PM

You could always do bumper cars... :-D

RobertoOrtiz

04-07-2006, 07:29 PM

I see no problem with bumper cars..

:)
-R

phlewp

04-07-2006, 07:56 PM

I actually just started a new contemporary (though fictional) F1 model today. Too bad I can't animate :P

If anyone's interested in a collab, I'd be more than interested. PM me or message me on AIM at flewp .

04-07-2006, 08:24 PM

I'm thinking of doing a 1930's style "Gee Bee" pylon race. With the plane's wing clipping a pylon and crashing.

http://www.aerobase.jp/b.img/bendixrace_s.jpg http://warbird.com/gb98-2.jpg

loran

04-07-2006, 08:46 PM

woch!! its not much about VFX than Story Telling!! It's a movie you challenge here, not an VFX shot...
I m not in, too much time to do that!
good luck to every challengers!

I ever work on race shots you can watch there (http://laurent.renaud.free.fr/galerie/perso/payaiafilms.mov)! and even short they, even time it takes to do!!

RobertoOrtiz

04-08-2006, 03:07 AM

To be honest you can do either a FULL SEQUENCE, or you can ONLY do the vehicle crash.-R

tibes

04-08-2006, 06:59 AM

Great challenge! I'm in! (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=343050) :thumbsup:

Tris3d

04-08-2006, 11:03 AM

Sounds cool to me! :)

mdillender

04-08-2006, 10:34 PM

Sounds great.

I'm in

AmirP

04-09-2006, 09:31 AM

This challenge sounds great :)

Im hoping to post a WIP thread soon, the work has already started. just a quick question, im working with a group of about 3-4 people, how should I title the thread ? with everybody's names ?

04-09-2006, 04:55 PM

I'm in!

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=343402

brazz

04-09-2006, 10:00 PM

very nice one. I´ll get in for sure with another friend. Thread will come up soon.

cheers

Lman

04-10-2006, 11:59 AM

Im in!
Looking forward to my frist FXwars challange.
Ill be going for Contemporary Racing ( Difficulty Level HIGH)
Imagine you are driving

Emphasis on editing, lighting and cinematography.
The scenes in the entry require good flow and good camera work
The interaction of individual and the environment must be realistic.
Oh I got soooo much work to do busy busy bee.
Good luck to all involved.
regards
Liam

my thread ---=--- http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3439006#post3439006

TheOnlyAaron

04-11-2006, 07:42 AM

I'll Be joining in on the fun.

Check it out (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=344294)

riri284

04-12-2006, 02:10 PM

can my anim involve a snail, an alien on a bike and all this in a cartoonish environement?

mustan9

04-12-2006, 03:37 PM

can my anim involve a snail, an alien on a bike and all this in a cartoonish environement?

Sure I don'y see why not.

I was actually thinking about making mine a cartoon, but changed my mind. Would love to see you do something like that. :)

RobertoOrtiz

04-12-2006, 03:39 PM

can my anim involve a snail, an alien on a bike and all this in a cartoonish environement?

It definetly sounds like a fantasy entry.

I wish you Success with it!
:)

-R

riri284

04-12-2006, 03:39 PM

ok, here is my idea btw:

i am working on an anim because i cant do it all on my own ... here is the story:
a guy on a bike drives super fast, he sees 2 snail on the road but doesn't care. he drive over the first on and kills it. the 2nd snail is really anoyed and he realizes that the bike has a leak in its fuel tank. the snail crack a match and set fire to the fuel on the ground, the fire catches up with the bike and BOOOM no more bike..
then you see the snail smiling when suddenly a bit from the bike falls on him and kills him...
i need a max user, preferably 3dsmax 8 who could do some rendering/lighting, texturing and rigging (it doesn't have to be the same person; the more we are the better)... if your also good at making cartoon things, modeling cartoonish environments or if you just wanna help, email me or pm me (i'd rather having you emailing me at riri284@hotmail.com)
here is the guy:
http://www.richardadenot.com/stuff/alien.jpg
here is the WIP bike:
http://www.richardadenot.com/stuff/scoot.jpg
here is the WIP Snail:
http://www.richardadenot.com/stuff/snail.jpg

mustan9

04-12-2006, 03:51 PM

I think your idea is fine, as long as the guy is driving really fast because he's in a race.

vrom

04-13-2006, 09:07 AM

First post, first question ...

well i'm not quite sure, but ...
do i break the rules if using a racecar i already animated before (no crash scene so far)?

mustan9

04-13-2006, 03:56 PM

First post, first question ...

well i'm not quite sure, but ...
do i break the rules if using a racecar i already animated before (no crash scene so far)?

No. It just makes you lucky!

destruct007

04-13-2006, 04:47 PM

I love that you even had to ask. It's like we're SO serious about who wins b/c they win an award image by their work! I heard they've striped the award from ANYONE who breaks even the slightest of rules or bi-laws. I think all we care about is seeing the coolest fx, and useing competition to help us actually finish something.

RobertoOrtiz

04-13-2006, 07:52 PM

I want to add to what destruct007 said.
The point of this contest ot to learn, showoff and have fun.
:)
-R

mustan9

04-13-2006, 08:08 PM

I want to add to what destruct007 said.
The point of this contest ot to learn, showoff and have fun.

WHAT! You mean there is no large cash prize for first place?

Forget it I'm out of here.

Just joking! :D :)

vrom

04-13-2006, 09:53 PM

ok, i see, so i'm getting into the funpart.

Thanks for clearance.

phlewp

04-14-2006, 09:05 PM

edit: whoopsies. feel free to delete this, mods.

mustan9

04-14-2006, 09:11 PM

That should be posted in our thread so people know what entry your working on.

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=344128

phlewp

04-14-2006, 09:26 PM

That should be posted in our thread so people know what entry your working on.

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=344128

Haha, yah, accidentally put it in the wrong thread.

RobertoOrtiz

04-22-2006, 05:15 PM

Just a reminder:

One Month To Go (MAY 22th): FXWARS THE RACE! (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=349057)

-R

MikhailovIgor

04-27-2006, 09:36 PM

Hi! I d like to take part but it is very short time given! I also working and studing so if I will take part in this tornament can I dont post WIP's? Can I only make the movie and if it will go on to your competitions I will post some WIPs and etc... Please let me know because I really want to took part in this

RobertoOrtiz

05-29-2006, 01:53 PM

To all you have until midnight TONIGHT to post your final entries.

-R

RobertoOrtiz

05-30-2006, 02:32 PM

Fxwars The Race: To All Participants (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=364008)

RobertoOrtiz

06-07-2006, 04:59 AM

aazimkhan

06-08-2006, 08:11 AM

oh man i missed this one, Car race would have been my favourite..
maybe i should have entered my old race animation i made in here...

i think the link is still in my signature...

oh well, maybe next time.

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