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Elliepower
04-04-2006, 03:29 PM
Hi,

starting with this now, I got the workbook of Betty Edwards ans hope this helps me to go through the lessons and not to stop.

Here is my first selfportrait sitting in front of a mirror... *rofl*,

Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test12.jpg

Rebeccak
04-04-2006, 03:38 PM
Heya Ellie,

It's great to see your Anatomy Thread! :) You are welcome and encouraged to post your OFDW pieces here as well - think of your Anatomy Thread as a sort of diary of all the work that you do here on the Anatomy Forum and elsewhere. :)

Looking forward to seeing more of your work! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

- Rebeccak

Elliepower
04-05-2006, 09:58 AM
Hi Rebecca,

thank you, I will go on with the workbook first. Second piece, my hand, about 20 min.

so long,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test14.jpg

Elliepower
04-05-2006, 01:48 PM
Hello,

my boyfriend asks me to paint some of his favorites. Starting a sketch, I have only a half portrait found for reference. So I have to construct the rest of the body.

You know this guy? *rofl*

I think I must take a look at proportions and perspective... looks a "little" wrong. About half an hour.

http://www.elliepower.de/test15.jpg


Ciao,
Ellie

Rebeccak
04-05-2006, 08:14 PM
Hiya Ellie,

Good to see you continuing with your Exercises! :) What I might suggest doing is checking out an article I wrote on Opposing Curves - see the link in my signature, "Article". The main idea is to use pairs of curves in your drawings to really get a sense of movement and life. Hope this helps!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
04-06-2006, 06:41 AM
Hi Rebecca,

thank you for your advice, I know I struggle with lines. I wonder how difficult simple forms are, hehe, we humans only believe what we see or doing ourselves. The lines rules me, not otherwise.

But it makes a lot of fun testing this and I think I'll going on. Yesterday I told my boyfried he has to be my live-model this weekend.

*ooohm* to U! The way you talk to people is wonderful, speaking the truth without ever hurt anyone. Rebecca rulez... :D

So long,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test16.jpg

And tryin' more:

http://www.elliepower.de/test17.jpg

Rebeccak
04-06-2006, 03:36 PM
Ellie,

Thanks so much, your compliment made my day. :)

It's great to see more work here, and I think the Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain exercises are really useful! I've definitely done them, and I remember marvelling at the before and after examples of work done by artists in the book. :) Looking forward to seeing more of your exercises, and I hope they're really useful to you.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
04-07-2006, 02:55 PM
Hi,

next Edwards-excercise, an edge of my kitchen, lol.

Ciao,
Ellie

+- 20 min. with pencil

http://www.elliepower.de/test18.jpg


And another tryout with DaVinci, wacom, about 3/4 h:

http://www.elliepower.de/test19.jpg

SpiritDreamer
04-07-2006, 04:36 PM
Hi....Elliepower // Marion....:)

I like your studies ....the kitchen one is my favorite so far...and your self portrait..next time you try a self portrait,
you might try doing it in a darkened room, with a candle light, or some kind of spotlight casting
shadowes on one side of your face...try it on a black, or a deep deep purple almost black canvas or whatever ....you will see shapes easier, and will end up with a dramatic effect.:)

Wish you would post on here your Caravaggio study....the one in frame # 123 caught my
eye right away...the orange and greens.....like it much better than your later version, so
did MRS SPIRIT DREAMER, but that's just our opinons. With the exception of the food, I thought it looked like a great finished piece...not exactly like the original, but beautiful in
it's own way....had your finger print on or in it....which makes it better than the original.
Just my opinion again though...:scream:
Looking forward to seeing your progress ...:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
04-07-2006, 04:56 PM
Hiya Ellie, :)

Great to see your drawings, and I always love to see Master Copies, :D so that's always a good thing in my book. :) I like the kitchen drawing as well, it has a lot of charm which is uniquely possible with traditional drawing.

Looking forward to seeing more of your sketches. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
04-09-2006, 01:24 PM
Hello,

going to start something crazy and try to combine it with learning more about painting. I started with Dali and not know really how to go on with this. And also in B/W, because I definitely not know now how to do with the colors later.

Every day I try to continue with sketching something, it is only a hobby not a job and the main point for me in doing this is to have fun. And I really enjoy it.

@SpiritDreamer
The idea with the dark room and a candle is great, I will try it next time and show the result. Thx a lot :).

http://www.elliepower.de/cgtalkwip04.jpg

Ciao,
Ellie

Ups, a little confused, lol, here is the crazy stuff:

http://www.elliepower.de/test21.jpg

SpiritDreamer
04-09-2006, 03:12 PM
Hi....Ellie....:applause:

Thanks for putting that master study in here, and don't short change yourself, concerning
your use of color, I think that you have a great eye for color, as you have expressed it in that
master copy above...:thumbsup:
I had a drawing teacher years ago, who trained me to just let my imaginations run free, and
to let whatever was locked in my imagination just pour out of the end of my pen or brush.
The object of this method, was to release all of the subconcience thoughts stored within my
spirit. It is a very fine method for exploring one's SELF.
The trick to it is to put aside all concience thought, and to let your dream side take control.
Not as easy as it sounds..LOL!!...We are conditioned by society, to hide our SELFS, and are
labeled as crazy, when we expose our SELFS, and thus we end up liveing our whole lifes in
a crazy society's lie....;)
Looking forward to seeing more of your SELF...:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
04-09-2006, 03:26 PM
Ellie,

I don't think this is so 'crazy' ~ I think it's pretty interesting. :)

For a great tutorial on how to work from Grayscale to Color Mode, check out this tutorial by Steven Stahlberg:

Black and White to Color Painting Tutorial (http://www.androidblues.com/JealousyStepbystep/jealousystep.html)
http://www.androidblues.com/JealousyStepbystep/jealousystep.html

Looking forward to seeing your progress! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
04-09-2006, 05:13 PM
Hi all,

@Rebeccak
Thank you, I will need it soon.

@SpiritDreamer

Yeah, chaos rulez... hihi.

So, try to sketch it a bit more rough, because I have to think about the conception of my ideas and not to be too detailed now. My idea is to blend such different artist a strange way and I think this is hard to get, lol, but very funny for me.

There are the "Gerome-Riders" standing on the Dali, I think the legs of the horses could be some "stalagniten" where are growing into a whole. I think to blend the desert into the picasso may work, the colors are a bit similar of the originals.

At the spoon will come a head of Adam (R. Hausner) and the right side, I will make up my mind later. I think there could be an old artist, Caravaggio and the lady who held the hands up high. She could then hold the frames. There are very confused ideas about it. The difficult thing to do for me is (everything, loool) to do the lightning the right way. Perhaps I write the names of the Artist I use on to the picture frames.

Ciao,
Ellie



http://www.elliepower.de/test22.jpg

Elliepower
04-10-2006, 12:56 PM
Hi,

here is some more working and thinking over the concept I want to realize.

http://www.elliepower.de/test23.jpg

The artists I "use" are: Gerome, Dali, Caravaggio (suffering woman from the OFWD15), Hausner, Picasso and Guercino (the little cute angels)

Where there is funny or needed I changed something, in the right I even don't know what to put to, some environment?

The size of the file is 300 dpi and 6000 to 4500 px.

Next step will be to check the anatomie and proportions, the body of Adam has to be fixed and much more.

Ciao,
Ellie

SpiritDreamer
04-10-2006, 02:55 PM
Hi....Elliepower // Marion...:thumbsup:

I can only speak for myself, but I am really enjoying seeing this piece develope...I really like
your imagination, and originallity....will be a great pleasure to see where it leads to.
Keep em comin...and get as close to realism when and where you can, with the elements in
your composition...will really add to the effect of the painting.:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Elliepower
04-10-2006, 03:08 PM
Hi SpiritDreamer/Glenn *lol*,

it is difficult not to be totally confused about names.

Berserker-Ellie... hehe... tryout the tutorial and playing with colors. This way going from grayskale to color is more difficult to come to the original. If I will be able to bring the rest up to this (left side) I would be happy with it.

Ciao and thank you for your comments.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test24.jpg

Rebeccak
04-10-2006, 03:44 PM
Ellie,

This is definitely coming along great! I wonder if you could explain a little bit about the theme? Very curious!

I really like your combination of elements ~ really push the value structure as far as you can, in both black and white and in color.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
04-10-2006, 03:48 PM
LOL....Ellie .....Berserker...the word originates from two medievel princes. The Berserker brothers ....FACT

They would eat a certain red with white bumps or spots on it...mushroom, before they would go into battle. Mushrooms made them go insane with rage, would foam at the mouth ect.
They were finally put to death by their own people, for being too out of control...LOL...:scream:

There is an artist, who used to put his paintings on the FINISHED 2D SECTION, that I think
you might REALLY enjoy. I think he has a web site too...his name is...Werner Hornung...if you
type his name in the search box, you should be able to find him...let me know if you can't
find him, and I will look him up for you.
I like your colors so far...:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Elliepower
04-10-2006, 04:29 PM
Hi u2,

yes, it is curious... and the collage comes free out of my mind, I had not to look much for the pics I wanted to use. Theme... hmmm... I think it will show my confrontation with art the last weeks. The artists and their pictures are moving through my poor brain until I am a little confused. They play with each other also, some like to help me to calm down, the caravaggio-woman hold the frames.

It is more a feeling than a sense in it.

And the main theme for me is to paint a picture and to learn while doing it. It is very hard for me to do things when I can't see a result, so I outwit myself a bit. Here, when some details boring me I can quick jump to another without. So with the things I only suggest in the picture I can do some 15-min-Sketching before painting it.

Werner Hornung is also a strange artist, but I like his pictures very much. There is a chaos-loving side in me... lol.

Do you know something about the relationsship between Dali and Picasso? I found nothing about it on the web. And I heard that the fans of Picasso dislike Dali and vice versa, is there a reason for?

Ciao,
Ellie

Rebeccak
04-10-2006, 05:05 PM
Ellie,

That's a cool explanation, thanks for that. :) I know what you mean about trying to out~psychologize yourself to try and complete a piece ~ I think we all have to do this to some level, especially when something is difficult such as is drawing and painting. :)

Looking forward to more of your work and thoughts. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
04-11-2006, 09:50 AM
Hello,

going on with the little angels, trying to sketch them.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test25.jpg

Elliepower
04-12-2006, 10:38 AM
Hi,

paint until I die... *rofl*

A funny idea about hockey and a 4-leg horsechicken...

http://www.elliepower.de/test27.jpg

And going on with traditional work.

http://www.elliepower.de/test26.jpg

LG,
Ellie

Elliepower
04-12-2006, 03:45 PM
Hello,

shice *lol*, too many ideas going around my brain.

Gerome-rider combined with chickenhorse and SciFi :D

http://www.elliepower.de/test29.jpg

Or the hockeymatch with aliens?

http://www.elliepower.de/test28.jpg

I enjoy this very much, playing around with ideas.

Ciao,
Ellie

Rebeccak
04-12-2006, 04:43 PM
Ellie,

LOL, I really like your whimsical ideas :) ~ and your OFDW piece (the back view of the female) is looking like it's off to a nice start. Looking forward to seeing these pieces develop!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
04-13-2006, 10:14 AM
Hello again,

here is a WIP of the OFDW woman. About 2 hrs.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test30.jpg

Rebeccak
04-13-2006, 03:48 PM
WOW, Ellie, that's a beautiful start! I think this pose inspires people to do their best work ~ keep going, you're doing a terrific job!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
04-13-2006, 04:22 PM
Hi Rebecca,

thank you, I am a little chaotic. Hehe, but today I got a feeling of... hmmm... taking one step further in learning how to paint. Finishing this one today in 4-5 hrs. inspired by a cute kitten-photo, though they nearly all look the same. First time I played around with different brushes and I am happy with this, hehe.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/Elliegalerie/ticat800.jpg

Corvax
04-13-2006, 04:33 PM
aw.. what a cute little kitty, I really like you colors...:thumbsup: :applause:

only thing is - and its really not a big deal - you wanna be really careful how you place the eyes.. make them really symmetrical across the center axis of the face.

--David René.

Rebeccak
04-13-2006, 04:57 PM
Aww, he looks like a tiny tiger! :D This is really nice, Ellie, and I particularly like the way you've done the body. There is something a little less convincing about the face, maybe David has pinpointed it ~ I think also the colors seem just a bit duller there, and the brushstrokes a bit rigid ~ but it's great to see you doing so much good work!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
04-13-2006, 05:01 PM
Hi ...Ellie....:thumbsup:

Now your getting the feeling of it....express yourself with those brush strokes...
Nice softness in the cats fur, and the background also....I like the colors ...greens and oranges
must be your favorites...you work them well together...:)
Looking forward to seeing more of your brush experiments...:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Elliepower
04-14-2006, 03:37 PM
Thank U for the comments.

Puh, know working a bit on the woman's leg. It is difficult to blend for me, so it looks a bit wrong. It very easily looks dirty.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test32.jpg

Rebeccak
04-14-2006, 03:55 PM
Keep going, Ellie! :) You're doing a nice job, particularly on her left foot. You might try adding a bit more shadow to her left thigh, as well as some reflected (bounce) light.

Nice work so far!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
04-22-2006, 09:42 PM
Hi,

I have got some problems with my right arm... it is a typist's cramp I fight with. Done too much... hmpf, or too old to paint? *rofl*

I'll take a little rest, but I finished this.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test35.jpg

Rebeccak
04-22-2006, 09:54 PM
Wow, Ellie!

Really nice work...the legs in particular are looking really great! :) The head, hair, and neck also came out really beautifully! :thumbsup:

Her left arm and back seem slightly less finished than the head and legs ~ but overall this is really solid work!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
04-23-2006, 03:44 PM
Hi,

can't stop... only 2 hrs, trying the anatomy of a skull and changing the tooth. Hehe, used a reference photo from here, forgot where I found it exactly.

http://www.elliepower.de/Elliegalerie/skull800.jpg

Ciao,
Ellie

Rebeccak
04-23-2006, 04:52 PM
My, what sharp teeth he has. :D :)

Hey, you are really improving rapidly! This skull is really cool ~ I think if you used a really small brush to sharpen some of the edges and bring out some more of the dark / light contrast, you could really polish off this image beautifully. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Rebeccak
04-23-2006, 10:40 PM
Hi Ellie,

Your work has been SPOTLIGHTED here:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3481423#post3481423

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
04-26-2006, 01:17 PM
Hi Rebecca,

ups, I am surprised. *ashame*

Cannot stop, thank god for the free time I have. Today I tried a face without using a reference. Doesn't work, but then I didn't copy a single photo, only parts of different faces and watched out the Berkkvist-tutorials. I think drawing bones (skull) is helpful to get a feeling about the proportions.

About 2 hrs. for this wip.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test38.jpg

Rebeccak
04-27-2006, 01:48 AM
Ellie,

With respect to drawing skulls, I really agree! :)

Have you seen these two threads?

REBECCA KIMMEL'S Anatomy Review 003: SHADING TUTORIAL AND HUMAN SKULL EXERCISE (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=259291)
You might try the exercise posted to the beginning of this thread.

SPOTLIGHT: Best of Anatomy Review 003: Shading Tutorial and Human Skull Exercise (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=349444)
This is the best work from the Workshop thread above. Really inspiring work here!

Just a suggestion. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
04-27-2006, 01:11 PM
Hi Rebecca,

thx, good suggestion. I will do some more of them.

Ciao,
Ellie

Here is another one, my daughter, photoref used.

wip
http://www.elliepower.de/test40.jpg

result

http://www.elliepower.de/Elliegalerie/carola2800.jpg

Rebeccak
04-28-2006, 08:39 PM
Hi Ellie, :)

I think this portrait could be improved with the use of a bit more contrast...so far the forms of the face seem just a bit flat, and adding more strongly contrasted areas of light and dark, such as in the Rembrandt study, will really increase the feeling of volume in the portrait. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
04-30-2006, 01:28 PM
Hi Rebecca,

right, I have got problems to understand forms. And then it looks mixed with flatten and small 3D areas. And also it will be a problem with reference, too. If they look flat I paint flat... My people are a bit shy to pose for me, hehe, both said to me: take a photo and let me go.

But I'll go on.

With this idea, I collect them. For me it doesn't matter not to do final images at all. Here, with help of 3D for the perspective.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/walpurgis05.jpg

Rebeccak
04-30-2006, 03:54 PM
Ellie,

To be honest I am no perspective expert, but there are a lot of great tutorials to be found here:

Perspective
The short short version
http://www.teamgt.com/forum/cubes01.htm
http://www.teamgt.com/forum/cubes02.htm
http://www.teamgt.com/forum/cubes03.htm

The long version (VERY complete)
http://handprint.com/HP/WCL/tech10.html

Hope this helps. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
04-30-2006, 07:34 PM
Hi ....Ellie...:)
Really like the way you painted that skull ....great exercise ...what you learn in that exercise
will show up in all the faces you paint or draw in the future ....you might buy a plastic skull
at the art store or joke shop, that is where I bought mine...they are life size, and pretty
detailed and acurate, and cheaply priced most of the time....having one allows you to see
it from any angle you choose....it is always better to work from something that you can put
your hands on...gives you a better sense of the object..ect......also allows you to double
check your portraits done from photo's or life, to make sure that the bone structure underlying
the face is corectly proportioned..ect.
KEEP GOING , IT IS ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SEE WHAT WILL SPRING FROM THAT IMAGINATION OF YOURS...:thumbsup: :)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Elliepower
04-30-2006, 08:10 PM
Hi U2,

hehe, hmpf... perpective. My brain is not constucted to think 3D. *lol* I don't know the english word for "Gehirnwindung" but I loose one to do this.

Buy a skull, sounds logical, Spirit Dreamer. My boyfriend gave me a lesson in perspective, lol, men, for them it seems to be very easy. It took several times until I got it. I hope I got it.

Thanks for the tips and comments.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/perspektive01.gif

Rebeccak
05-01-2006, 05:23 PM
Hi Ellie,

Good to see you've gotten this worked out. :) Looking forward to seeing this integrated with your painting! :thumbsup:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
05-02-2006, 01:27 PM
Hello,

so, not 100 percent ok, but it shows an better result.

Ciao,
Ellie

wip 1

http://www.elliepower.de/walpurgis09.jpg

wip 2

http://www.elliepower.de/walpurgis10.jpg

And now I look like this... arrrghn... hehe. Never live a day without making a joke.

Opposite curves *rofl*

http://www.elliepower.de/rochi.jpg

Elliepower
05-02-2006, 03:03 PM
Hi,

did some life sketches from a porcellain figure I have here. Called "Spielkameraden".

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/sketchhutsch03.jpg

http://www.elliepower.de/sketchhutsch02.jpg

Elliepower
05-03-2006, 04:49 PM
Hello,

fantastic weather... to sketch in the park. It is difficult. But it brings a lot of fun.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/park01.jpg

http://www.elliepower.de/park02.jpg
http://www.elliepower.de/park03.jpg

Rebeccak
05-03-2006, 10:27 PM
Hi Ellie,

I like your outdoor sketches, and it's good to see you drawing from life. :)

It might be nice to see another traditional portrait, perhaps a self~portrait, in pencil. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
05-04-2006, 07:08 PM
Oh Rebecca,

your wish is my command, hehe. Not better than my first mirror-made-self-portrait. I look very angry, but this comes up if I am concentrate and starrrring at the mirror.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/sketchMai02.jpg

Lol... my whole familiy.

http://www.elliepower.de/sketchMai03.jpg

And my hot coach potatoe, watching TV. Hehe, there is a mistake about the feet. I don's use the rubber much. The foot below, there was only the toetip, don't know why I split the leg. Looks funny.

http://www.elliepower.de/sketchMai04.jpg

And the last, a simple plant in our living room.

http://www.elliepower.de/sketchMai06.jpg

SpiritDreamer
05-05-2006, 12:22 PM
Hi...Ellie...:)

Like that page that is full of small gestured figures..ect.and your plant studies.
You might try using two mirrors to do your self portrait, that way you won't be stareing
yourself down..LOL....just a thought....:scream: :) ....A candle lit one would be nice I think...:)
Your feet keep comeing out too small on your figures...might consentrate on that as your
drawing and painting your figures ....Really enjoy seeing your drawings and paintings..:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Elliepower
05-05-2006, 05:57 PM
Hi Spirit Dreamer,

na ja *hehe*, I don't have any schooling in this anyway, everything learning by doing and reading books... and join cgtalk :). Often I do not know where to go, so I feel strugelling with this, because I am insecure with everything. This forum is a great help for me to learn without feeling unworthily.

That things don't have to look perfect is only one case I learned, to see things from a different angle, also your pictures are showing me, how much impression there could be without a full realistic view or the realistic use of color. And the work of Rebecca... hehe,
not long ago I thought what is so interesting drawing lines? I never recognized it before.

It is an adventure. I love to watch out for new pictures and could spend hours with only enjoying. :D

Ciao,
Ellie

Hmmm... trying again. Bigger feet *lol*

My "Schatzi", today in the park.

http://www.elliepower.de/sketchMai07.jpg

http://www.elliepower.de/sketchMai08.jpg

and colored...

http://www.elliepower.de/sketchMai09.jpg

Rebeccak
05-05-2006, 06:09 PM
Hi Ellie,

As always, I enjoy reading your thoughts. :)


http://www.elliepower.de/sketchMai07.jpg

Nice linework with this one! I like these kinds of studies, they are refreshing to see. :) It's great to see how much work you are doing here.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
05-06-2006, 09:39 PM
Hi,

playing around with "what comes to my mind".

An idea, inspired by a cute photo of a reptile. A baby dragon, hanging on to a dandelion, I imagine some mountains in the back. I don't know how to manage the left wing, the shortenings are bad, think they could be forced much more.

http://www.elliepower.de/test43.jpg

*rofl* From the sketchaton theme "Camelot". It is difficult to estimate the time.

http://www.elliepower.de/test44.jpg

And another sketch after b/w photoref, try to find colors and understanding dunes.

http://www.elliepower.de/test45.jpg

Ciao,
Ellie

Elliepower
05-06-2006, 10:21 PM
Last for today...

the baby dragon, a little 15min sketch about a scene. Light and shadow... another difficult thing.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test46.jpg

SpiritDreamer
05-07-2006, 01:46 AM
Hi...Ellie...nice set....;)
Liking that dragon on dandelion....have you ever seen the works of an artist named

Patrick Woodroffe ...look him up on google...I have a couple of his books....great imagination
Think you would really like his drawings, paintings, and creations...HAVE FUN

TAKE CARE
Glenn

DigitalSol
05-07-2006, 06:39 AM
Hello Ellie, first than anything, let me congratulate you, for your your personal thread, really good work in here, (this is the first that Im visiting, I even know that these exist :D ) Im delay about your work, but everything is looking really good, and I love the baby dragon paint, your camelot, and the desert, I will really look forward to see your work, see ya

Elliepower
05-07-2006, 04:29 PM
Hello,

yes, I watch a lot, but don't comment every time. Thx for your comments. So, here is an update, changing the view and environment a bit. The head of the baby needs some work, because of the wrong anatomy. Now I have got to go out, watching plants and enjoying the sun.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test47.jpg

Rebeccak
05-07-2006, 05:17 PM
Ellie,

This last sketch looks like the start of an awesome painting...you could really render this one out if you really wanted to. :)

I love your whimsical subjects, they always make me laugh (in a good way). :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
05-07-2006, 07:18 PM
Hi Rebecca,

I hope so, don't want to scare anybody. *lol*

I like this fantasy theme, too. So try to render this. It is hard to manage the meadow, there are so many details, and I don't know how to single out the main or major things and where to reduce. I think to detail out the two dandelions in the front an put some blades of grass between.

Ups, I see a mistake on the left wing.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test48.jpg

Elliepower
05-08-2006, 09:42 AM
Hello,

thinking about the composition, fixed the left wing of the baby dragon. I think now it looks right, but not sure. Then I googled for Dürer and his grass picture I remembered. It is amazing how he did the details. My intend is to get a believable effect on it, now working with several layers for not to lose the survey.

If anyone see some huge problems, please tell me.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test49.jpg

Rebeccak
05-08-2006, 09:54 AM
Hi Ellie,

Looking good so far. :) The one thing at this point I would point out is that the clouds are a bit too static ~ you might want to vary their size / shape / angle a bit more to make the background more dynamic.

It will be really interesting to see once you start to detail this. It's interesting that you bring up Durer, he certainly was a master at detail.

It might be great to try to emulate this kind of study of his:

http://www.washacadsci.org/flowers/grasses-the%20large%20turf.albrecht%20durer.large.jpg

Perhaps adding some rich brown / greens beneath the grass would make that a bit more lively as well. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
05-08-2006, 01:35 PM
Hi,

thank you, Rebecca, for the Dürer. I think I don't have the patience to do something like he did. Doesn't matter. But it is a great inspiration how I perhaps handle the meadow.

I struggle with the light situation, every time I add highlights, it is too much, the same with shadows... or it comes up to look slushly. I think to add a few flowers and some big blades of grass on the ground/meadow.

It is funny how I can see, where I am confused with form.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test50.jpg

Rebeccak
05-08-2006, 03:28 PM
Hi Ellie,

I think you will work things out, as you continue to render. :)

The one thing I would say compositionally is that the right wing of the creature is looking as though you are trying to fit it into the picture plane ~ you might expand the canvas size and give more room on the left of the picture frame. Also you might wish to add more atmospheric perspective, or blue hazing to the mountains so that they appear farther off.
For example, you can see how much progressively bluer and lighter the farther mountains recede into the distance here (http://si.ist.psu.edu/pgsit/blogs/files/Smoky_Mountains.jpg). :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
05-08-2006, 05:27 PM
Hello Rebecca,

*oink&thx* try to permute your suggestion. The leaves at the bottom needs some attention, it looks bad this way. I don't have a clue how to go on with this. It seems to be a neverending story. (the PP - PatienceProblem). The dandelion looks like it wants to turn down, perhaps a stone would support stability.

Ciao,
Ellie


http://www.elliepower.de/test51

Rebeccak
05-08-2006, 06:21 PM
Ellie,

You're doing fine! :) I think my main suggestion would be to try some harder edged brushes ~ you may already know this but pressing Shift + [ will soften your brush, and Shift + ] will make your brush harder. I would try to maybe hit some of the most prominent edges with a bit of a harder brush at lower opacity and flow. Really try to bring out some key details.

The main bit will be refining the soft vs. hard edges in the painting.

Have you ever seen the work of Craig Mullins? You should definitely check it out:

http://www.goodbrush.com/

It's very inspirational! He also has some good tutorials on the web.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
05-08-2006, 07:16 PM
Hi Rebecca,

puh, I will check out Craig Mullins. Enough for today.

I did the second hand-draw from the "Right Side of the Brain" Workbook, without this "plastic-window". I am glad not to use the smudge tool any more, but blending is a mastical thing to me, the forms went out everything and this bothers me and I stop going on. I know I need more practice, much more.

Thank you very much for the help Rebecca. But one I have to say. What happened to your avatar? You took a course in ninja-painting? *rofl* I love funny things and this is definetly funny.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test52.jpg

Elliepower
05-09-2006, 12:52 PM
Hi,

I am getting crazy about this, lol. Playing around with composition once more and add some athmosphere.

Now I got two versions.

a
http://www.elliepower.de/test53a.jpg

b
http://www.elliepower.de/test53b.jpg

I like b more, this one without the vulcano clouds and the *don't now the word for it* flower-detail of the dandelion.

Ciao,
Ellie :)

Rebeccak
05-09-2006, 05:00 PM
Hi Ellie,

Glad you like the new avatar :D ~ yes I'm very silly and so it was time for a ninja avatar, what can I say? :)

I'm liking b as well, I would say to vary the heights and angles of the plants, and to make the sky a more saturated blue. Right now all of the elements are at equal focus ~ I look as much at the mountaints, flower and grass as I do at the creature, so it seems that the next steps might be to detail things, particularly the creature, and to start to add focus to him ~ perhaps a shaft of sunlight hits his head and makes it a warm yellowish orange, whereas the rest of him is slightly in shadow / more blue. :)

I also like your hand study, you're doing a lot of work! Hope you stick with this creature study, he has a lot of charm for a little fellow. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

aggie93
05-09-2006, 05:15 PM
Elli - Just stopped in to see your thread and say Howdy! I really like your study of the lizard on the weed. That is great!

Elliepower
05-09-2006, 07:50 PM
Hi aggie93,

let me tell you "howdie", too and thk for stopping by.

Now, the Number One in motivation-ninja, Rebecca, hurry me.

:)

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test54.jpg

Rebeccak
05-09-2006, 07:55 PM
LOL Ellie, :D

This is starting to look really great! I'm glad you've found Enrique's thread, some of his illustrations just crack me up. :D

He (the creature, not Enrique) :D reminds me of a gremlin. :) Looking forward to seeing your next steps. :)

Cheers,

~MN (Motivation Ninja)

DoctorBone
05-09-2006, 09:13 PM
Very nicely done to this point <> vary the greens more <> greens are hardest thing to get a grasp on in landscape <> on a day that is this saturated the grasses in the foreground would probably be much warmer yellows and yellow greens <> the background could be a little less saturated as well...

Everything is well drawn <> just remember the value structure of landscape

Lightest <> sky

Darkest <> foreground verticals

Second lightest <> horizontal planes (foreground

Second darkest <> slanted planes (mountains)

Of course along with value you also need to consider hue and satiation

Elliepower
05-10-2006, 08:50 AM
Hi Rebecca,

it doesn't matter if I change the colors or composition several times, for me this ist practice and learn to see things how they really are. Hehe, but this is the point of excercise, isn't it?

Psst, and I also can improve my english, hehe, http://dict.leo.org/

@ Doctor Bone,

thank you for stopping by. I turned the pic into grayscale and see what you mean. Today I will try to do a few rough sketches for value and color. Is there a trick not to lose the values while rendering? It happens automatically to me to blend things on to the same level.

Ciao,
Ellie

Elliepower
05-10-2006, 10:57 AM
Puh,

another wip.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test55

Elliepower
05-10-2006, 12:49 PM
Hmmm,

inspired by Jeffrey Larson... *lol* a speedy.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test56.jpg

DigitalSol
05-10-2006, 03:28 PM
Wow, Ellie, I like your little dragon too much, I would just add some color and saturation variations in the grass, and desaturate colors in the background.

lol I just love the witch behind the clothes, :scream: very nice concept :D, great to see your personal work.

Rebecca.

lol.http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/gizmo.jpg

Rebeccak
05-10-2006, 06:04 PM
Ellie,

Your WIP and speedy are looking great! I think the next is to really blue out the mountains so they appear far away, and to detail the little gremlin. :D

Originally posted by Enrique:

lol.http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/gizmo.jpg
Sorry Ellie, but I just have to say...Haaaaaaaaaaaahahahhahahahahahaha!!! :scream:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
05-10-2006, 07:08 PM
http://www.elliepower.de/Smilies/bofl.gif

Tryin' to handle... *hehe* or control the color and other things.

Can't stop laughing, it is enough for today... a MNG - Motivation Ninja Gremlin.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test57.jpg

Elliepower
05-11-2006, 09:05 AM
Hello and good morning!

A new WIP, I don't have any idea where to go now with the picture. I have got a lot to learn and problems to render it out more than this.

Ciao,
Ellie


http://www.elliepower.de/test58.jpg

and only the babydragon

http://www.elliepower.de/test59.jpg

DigitalSol
05-11-2006, 04:52 PM
I like much the turn that u gave to the paint, and the volcano's detail is just excellent.

Also the colors looks better for me, congrats

Elliepower
05-11-2006, 09:06 PM
Hi Digital Sol,

thank you, I wish I could blend much better, but I aill wait a few days and then watching this dragon again.

Back to anatomy, lol, in the morning I took a self-photoshooting. Hehe, no, I don't show it, but for what I did it, take a look.

http://www.elliepower.de/test60.jpg

I imagine a river, it is dark, and an "thickish Ellie with spocky ears" *rofl* is sitting on a limb.

Watching something glowing, perhaps a firefly? I don't know. It is bothering me to struggle with details and the f... blending. *ups* I can foresee to run around the park watching trees, light an textures. And much more.

Ciao,
Ellie

umbrellasky
05-11-2006, 09:32 PM
Nice new sketch :) I think the anatomy needs a little work, I think her thighs should be longer. Other than that Great work! Keep it going!

Elliepower
05-12-2006, 07:01 PM
Hi enialadam,

thanks for stopping. Hmpf, I don't know, working at least from Photoref for the anatomy. Perhaps it looks that way because my legs are not very long? *lol* I'll check it out.

I tried to refine the dragon today.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/Elliegalerie/babydragon800.jpg

Elliepower
05-13-2006, 06:20 PM
Hello,

oh, I need more skills to go to a further level in this game... :D

A colored wip, the anatomy seems to be right, it looks wrong, but I used myself as reference.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test62.jpg

demented
05-13-2006, 06:35 PM
Some real nice stuff here. Like the mood of the woman in the swamp/forest. Only advice now is to use longer more confident strokes - it seems you are petting your lines a bit too much. It'll also give your works a more unified feel.

These look great so far - keep at it!

- d.

Corvax
05-13-2006, 06:41 PM
Elliepower:

Your skill set seams adequate (from what I've seen so far), I just think you need to go reference hunting.. that always seems to be the solution whenever I find that I'm stuck on something.. so go look at other artist, see how they dealt with the problem you're having, or go look at life or photographs. look, analyse and apply. and just keep working at it, I'm sure you'll get there. :)

--David René.

Rebeccak
05-15-2006, 05:41 PM
Hi Ellie, :)

I would recommend for your pieces using a round, and not a square brush. Square brushes are difficult to blend, and I think life will be easier if you avoid using them. :D

I think the key to drawing a clothed figure is to first sketch the figure in without clothes. Hehe, I know you will be embarrassed by that comment, but of course the figure is abstracted from yourself. You might try looking at reference from www.characterdesigns.com (http://www.characterdesigns.com) and other reference sources also. :) www.3d.sk (http://www.3d.sk) is a good one and relatively inexpensive.

Looking forward as always to an update!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
05-15-2006, 07:38 PM
Hi....Ellie...:wavey:

Really like the woman...YOU...by the waters edge painting that you are working on...:applause:
Have you seen any of ... Dunkelgold // Benita Winckler's paintings...She is a member, so
just type her name in, and you can find her work.
I think you will get a lot of inspiration and ideas from her paintings...enjoy the MAGIC..:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Elliepower
05-16-2006, 10:14 AM
Hi all,

yes, yes, yes... a round brush. OK. And longer strokes. You are right, I think it is a problem that I try to struggle too much on to details than rather on the hole figures. My brain fools me.

Yesterday I watched out for a similar ref but couldn't find one, so you have to watch at this... *lol*.


http://www.elliepower.de/test65.jpg

Since sunday I am 38 years old, sniff, and my boyfriend gave me a book about nude drawing (by G. Kleber) and so I have more stuff to learn how to see lines and form. And one more "What is art?".

Mr. Spirit Dreamer, thank you for the advice, it is really nice stuff of dunkelgold.

Ciao,
Ellie

Elliepower
05-16-2006, 11:39 AM
Hi again,

sketch...

Ciao,
Ellie :D

http://www.elliepower.de/test66.jpg

Cyanid
05-16-2006, 02:32 PM
pretty good, the face messes it a bit up.
proportions are well done. the hair looks a bit solid :)
keep it up :)

Rebeccak
05-16-2006, 08:43 PM
Hi Ellie,

Well, you don't have to post your personal references but if you feel comfortable doing so, then by all means. :)

I really like the new sketch and the linework, particularly for the legs and torso. I think the arms, head and neck need a bit more refining and work. It would be nice to see this done as a sort of sepia toned painting. :) Looking forward to seeing more of your progress. :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
05-17-2006, 02:41 PM
Hi Rebecca,

this is ok, because everybody could see me like this an the beach. Hmmm.. I feel struggeling with everything, but this seems to be normal I hope. To sketch rough works a bit, but then render an image... puh. Hard job for me, though there are so many tutorials and advices at the end by you and other users.

But I go on, hehe. Things that won't kill you makes you harder... lol.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test67.jpg

aggie93
05-17-2006, 03:10 PM
Hey Ell - This piece is coming along nicely. You are really starting to see the fullness of her form. I especially like how you have gotten her chest done, except her left boob is not hanging as much as the original picture. However, if you are sitting her up a little like you have the picture I guess it wouldn't. I like the scene, with the angle wings in the clouds. It reminds me of Zeph's OFDW a while back. http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=3232332&postcount=437 Keep going with it!

Rebeccak
05-17-2006, 03:48 PM
Ellie,

One thing that might help is to create a layer above all of your existing layers and fill it with a medium opacity gray ~ then copy merge your layers (Ctrl + Shift + C) and paste them, and start to paint again on that. One problem I think you're running into is that your values are too light too soon ~ really you want to use values in the really light / white range very sparingly. If you look at a photograph of a very light skinned person in grayscale, you will find that the values are surprisingly medium to dark in value. Try to use the full range of values ~ from white to black ~ and try to stay in the medium value range, with sparing highlights. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
05-18-2006, 01:26 PM
Hi,

went down to the cellar and found some old things, also some pieces of charcoal and some drawing pen spires (? right word). Trying out charcoal, the last time I used them at school, lol. Ref used.

With the angel, I thought to use lighter tones, because I think there would be more light in the clouds. Dont't think - only draw might be the solution?

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test69.jpg

Elliepower
05-18-2006, 02:01 PM
And a color test...

http://www.elliepower.de/test70.jpg

Perhaps it is a stupid question, but I have a problem with the web export in PShop 6.0. Normally I calibrated PS for Preprint, so used the icc profiles for them. But if I export it for web it doesn't work anymore. That is ok, cause this must be this way, I tried out some other profiles but don't know how to manage the problem.

The only way I can keep the color is to do a screenshot and import it to Corel Paint, lol, but that can't be the right way.

Ciao,
Ellie

Elliepower
05-18-2006, 07:56 PM
Next WIP

Correct the face, starting the hands, lifting the boob *lol* and depht on the clouds.

Ciao,
Ellie :D

http://www.elliepower.de/test71.jpg

DigitalSol
05-18-2006, 08:07 PM
Hey Ellie, love the paint, the boobs looks good for me lol, maybe u must to shift more the colours in the skin, perhaps some yellow and blue, I know you are still working the clouds but maybe if u use the smudge tool on it, it could help, the most of the time when i made clouds I use it, and that works good for me, see ya.

Elliepower
05-18-2006, 10:11 PM
Hi,

thanks for your visit :). Smudge... boooh, bad tool I think, isn't it? But on clouds it may work and I'll go test the bad one. Hehe.

Anatomy of a bat, photoref used and my whimsical ideas, too.

Title: Don't drink and fly

:)
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test72.jpg

Rebeccak
05-18-2006, 10:32 PM
Ellie,

You're crazy, I love your sense of humor! :D

This bat is great ~ you should check out the SurgiCat Database, there's a link I'll find in a bit...

Cheers, :)

~Rk

Elliepower
05-19-2006, 05:05 PM
Hi Rebecca,

I found the link, whimsical stuff there, loooool. Comes time, comes ideas (directly translated).

Stuck with the angel... tested the bad smudge and found out it works for the clouds.

Thx DigitalSol :)

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test74.jpg

P.S.: and I found the answer... turn off the colormanagement... I was stupid. :D

Rebeccak
05-19-2006, 05:34 PM
Ellie,

This is looking better and better! :)

I think the really key bit to blending is really using a soft brush at a low opacity, and then lightly brushing over some of the harder edges with the color sampled from that area of the painting. :)

The neck muscles seem to be a bit stiff / straight, you might try making those look a little more relaxed and organic.

I think it might be nice if you introduced some warm colors into the flesh tones, the overall picture appears a bit cold and you might try experimenting with some warmer color schemes.

Looking forward to your progress! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

DigitalSol
05-19-2006, 05:51 PM
Hey Ellie, looking good, this are my settings or doing clouds with the smudge.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/smudgeclouds.jpg

I think that the trick in using this tool is create a base with this, and then rework it as Rebecca says, I did this some time ago with that technique.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Cielo.jpg

Elliepower
05-19-2006, 05:57 PM
Hug,

I have got PShop 6.0...

Beautiful clouds, DigitalSol :love:... hmmm, I'll find another way. And the color scheme, too... just searching where I put it. *lol*

Thank you!

Ellie

Elliepower
05-20-2006, 02:31 PM
Hello,

color... no work on the angel, but totally new painting the clouds.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test75.jpg

Rebeccak
05-20-2006, 05:12 PM
Ellie,

Really starting to like the new look of the clouds!

My recommendations for the figure are to lengthen and thin her arms a bit, and then of course to do your favorite thing, blend! :D

Looking forward to your progress. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
05-20-2006, 07:59 PM
Hi,

blending... yes Ma'm! My favorite reason for a deep depression :D

Adding the details (hands *hrrrgnn*) next time. Now she wears pants for political correctness.

And now I am watching "Grand Prix de Eurovision - Song Contest" on TV, last year Germany got the last position.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test76.jpg

Rebeccak
05-20-2006, 08:52 PM
Ellie,

Starting to come along nicely!

Oops, I think I overpainted a previous version, but I hope you don't mind and that this helps anyway: :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Ellie/Ellie_Review-01.gif

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
05-23-2006, 03:19 PM
Hello Rebecca,

thank you very much for this. I went on with the face, hair and hands and the foot. The lips are difficult to do and the hair still looks funny, as she grabbed into a power point *looool*. And the big toe is a bit too big I can see.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test78.jpg

Elliepower
05-27-2006, 02:16 PM
Hi,

here is the last one, I decided to stop the image. digitaldecoy helps me with another suggestion handeling the values. I have got a lot to learn.

http://www.elliepower.de/test80.jpg

Only for fun, using this as ref for the anatomy:

http://www.elliepower.de/test81.jpg

And this as the result:

http://www.elliepower.de/Elliegalerie/meer800.jpg

Trying to leave the ref as much as possible. Rest from imagination, more a speedpaint-look but that doesn't matter.

Ciao,
Ellie

Rebeccak
05-27-2006, 05:47 PM
Hi Ellie,

Nice to see a new picture! I hope you don't mind, I made a few suggestions for your piece ~ only suggestions: :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Ellie/Ellie_Review-02.gif

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

SpiritDreamer
05-27-2006, 06:45 PM
WOW...Ellie....THE MAKINGS OF A GREAT PAINTING ...GREAT FACE...AND COMPOSITION...:thumbsup:
I did not care to much for the panties on your angel...reminded me too much of what was done to Michelanglo's last judgement....what a SHAME...:scream:
Can't wait to see this one finished...:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Elliepower
05-29-2006, 07:02 PM
Hi Mr. SpiritDreamer, Hi Rebecca,

hmmmm, I don't know where to go with this. BTW Rebecca, a big german Danke for the overpaint. I try to follow your suggestion. Only with the fin I don't agree.

http://www.elliepower.de/test82.jpg

I think the left one is better within the waves and the right because of the hillock. I am stucking now and mull over the composition.

Ciao,
Ellie

Elliepower
05-30-2006, 12:47 PM
Hi,

I decided to go this way and call it finished. I am not good enough to push it to the next level.

Ciao,
Ellie :D

http://www.elliepower.de/Elliegalerie/meer8002.jpg

SpiritDreamer
05-30-2006, 05:26 PM
Hi...Ellie....I think it needes those strong jagged edged diagonals that form the curl of the wave behind her, like your first one had...captured the energy of the wave in that version,

just my opinion though...:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
05-30-2006, 05:33 PM
Ellie,

You might try submitting this to Stahlberg's Paintover Review thread (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=359226) for a paintover ~ he might come up with some great results / suggestions! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Trunks
05-30-2006, 05:53 PM
I personally liked Rebeccak's version... but it's your image ;) This is a nice image with a nice little idea behind :)

Keep them coming :)

Elliepower
05-30-2006, 07:11 PM
Hi,

I also assumed some suggestion, the head is a bit higher, the body is corrected, only the left arm and the fin I like more the other way.

Waves, hmmm, I will show it to Mr. Stahlberg. Mr. SpiritDreamer u are right with the waves. I tried a lot to find a way to let it look the way I think about it. But until now it doesn't work.

Ciao,
Ellie

demented
05-31-2006, 07:30 PM
Hey Ellie

Really like what you're doing with the subject matter. But I feel you are not using enough of the colours. For instance the painting of the angel - whilst the intrinsic colours are beautiful i think you can work many other colours into that composition that would make it stand out. Try to see other colours in things - the waves in the last one might even do with dashes of brown and green. This will also add more dimension to your works. Take a look at zhuzhu's work - he is a master at this and really one to study.

Keep posting! - like where this is going.
ciao

- d.

umbrellasky
05-31-2006, 07:38 PM
Hiya! Beautiful paintings. This mermaid is very pretty, nice colours on the scales! :thumbsup:

Elliepower
06-01-2006, 12:44 PM
Hi everyone,

yes, yes, yes... I have got to learn a lot. And I can be very stubborn, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.

After the shock with the genious Stahlberg OP on the mermaid I'll try it again. I changed some colors and the fin (stubborn, hehe, but the other looks so fat) and still not be happy with the wave. Perhaps some fishes in the background?

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test84.jpg

Elliepower
06-02-2006, 12:57 PM
Hi,

next WIP

http://www.elliepower.de/test86.jpg

SpiritDreamer
06-02-2006, 01:54 PM
Hi...Ellie....it's getting better...just trying to help you with this one...has great potenial..:)

I think you should ether really make her hand on post ...very refined and clear, ..or turn the post into her other arm, or put arm in front of post maybe...weak spot in the painting as it is now.
The rocks need to be very dark...brown ..purpleish black...then you put the greenish brown
golds ect.....transparent water on top of those rocks...running over the rocks, and through the cracks.ect....with some seaweed or whatever..moveing from the water washing over it..ect.
Have just one area where you use pure white for highlight on water..small area...the rest of water is transparent lighter colors over darks...hope this helps a little...keep up the GREAT work.
You can find a picture of the way waves curl, with the luminious center or pipeline...in a surfing book, or on the internet somewhere.
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Elliepower
06-03-2006, 12:47 PM
Hi Mr. SpiritDreamer,

hmmm, it started a discussion an a german forum about this (I should never told them the name of stahlberg's OP, lol), now it's getting to be frustrating. Everyone has another opinion and I am confused about that. And how could it be, another discussion about faking and tracing. Uaaah, we hate people giving a work from another artist to be the owner of... I never hide to be a beginner and need help. German people... :twisted: they discus everthing to death (sometimes me too... ups!).

Yes, I think you are right, the left hand on the post has to been seen clearly and perhaps a piece of the elbow in the back. I also try to understand how to use saturation, I always tend to use bright colors but that is not good. So I started to highlight the waves and did it too much, hehe.

Thank you, but I think to take a rest on this, a few days. Lost my motivation a bit.

http://www.elliepower.de/test87.jpg

Ciao,
Ellie

umbrellasky
06-03-2006, 02:54 PM
I think SpiritDreamer just about covered everything there :P

Great work Ellie this is looking beautiful! I hate the feeling of loosing motivation, happens to me a lot lately. Maybe taking a small break would be good, I really want you to finish this! :D

Rebeccak
06-03-2006, 07:10 PM
Ellie,

Nice improvement here ~ I think the hand looks a bit large (I believe Steven painted it a bit smaller, which gave her a more feminine feel) :) and the white center line on the fin is looking distracting / a bit too bright. Really I think the key is finding good reference and trying to match it as closely as you can ~ really render, with small brushes and lower opacities.

Looking forward to your progress. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
06-05-2006, 12:47 PM
Hi,

this is the best result I can do, every time I try to want more it looks more bad then the step before. But I think this is ok, don't forget I've got my wacom for only a few months and have not much experience to bring this up to a perfect result.

So this is so much more than my work, with the great help of Rebecca and Stahlberg and others, only for learning. Thank you, I think I have learned a lot, though it may be not shown here. Next pic - a better look :).

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/meerfraustahl.jpg

Womball
06-05-2006, 01:19 PM
I think she came out great! You should be proud of her I think.

Elliepower
06-05-2006, 07:42 PM
Hi,

new stuff from the surgicat-museum. A bat in a glass, I removed the glass and changed something. Opened eyes and another kind of placenta.

The lightning is hard to to, because I want to learn to see where shadows has to be and they are not in the original.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test92.jpg

Rebeccak
06-05-2006, 10:50 PM
Oooh, Ellie, this is looking so cool!!! :thumbsup: Really love this kind of thing, keep on going!

By the way, you should definitely check out the work of Kevin Llewellyn, an artist who does masterful drawings, many of scientific specimens such as the one you have painted above:

http://www.kevart.com/pages/draw_pg.html

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

DigitalSol
06-05-2006, 11:16 PM
Wow ellie, just love these 2 last pieces, the water is magnificent, and the way that them broke against the rocks, and the last paint, the bat, is very interesting, keep up the good work:thumbsup:

Elliepower
06-06-2006, 09:30 AM
Hi and thx,

this is really fun for me, I love this little cute bat.

Ref:

http://www.elliepower.de/test94.jpg

next step

http://www.elliepower.de/test93.jpg

He or she is thinking about life and what will happened if this seed has grown up. Rebecca, great link, thank you for that. Gorgeous pics there, I wish I could handle a pencil like that.

Ciao,
Ellie

Elliepower
06-06-2006, 01:52 PM
Hehe,

having a lot of fun with this guy. "Thinking about life" would match for a title.

I know the yellow light on the head doesn't work, but it looks nice *lol*.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test95.jpg

Rebeccak
06-06-2006, 03:08 PM
Ellie,

How cool, I love this! I like how you've interpreted this and made the little guy have personality and character. How cool it would be to make a little series of these guys...:D

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
06-06-2006, 03:27 PM
Hehe,

these are really whimsical creatures. Did you ever know how big a fruit bat is?

I'll show you... no wonder people believe in vampires, they are really big.

:eek:

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.power-of-dreams.de/blog/bali2004/flughund.jpg

Rebeccak
06-06-2006, 05:04 PM
Awww, Ellie, is it you? :) Wow, that is one giant bat...:eek:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
06-06-2006, 05:23 PM
Hehe,

no, this is not me, only found on the www. But Bali for holiday's? Beware of the bat *lol* Should I remove the link? I am not sure it is okay to show persons I don't know.

I found a mistake in the lightning, it can't work with the yellow color on the top of the head. So changes this and find it looks better. Also darkened up the right light blue silhouette (called rimlight?).

Next try will be with a pencil.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test96.jpg

Elliepower
06-07-2006, 07:21 PM
Hi,

not with pencil, lol... I failed while trying it. Another cute "bat in the glass", rough WIP, I am not happy with the composition.

But I have got already a tilte: "fear of life". :)

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test99.jpg

Elliepower
06-08-2006, 02:13 PM
Hello,

not happy with the values, but this need a rest and then I will see more things to do better. Now I can see troubles with the area at the head, where the hand meets the head.

And the neck also is a bit too simplified. But the facial expression seems to be ok, this guy has a lot of fear of life.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test100.jpg

Lute
06-08-2006, 07:28 PM
i think the shading is amazing... :3 ..i somewhat dont understand the picture.. but i guess thats what makes it very intresting

Elliepower
06-09-2006, 07:03 PM
Hi,

the next cute guy, this time without reference. Pre-sketched with pencil, correction and composition in PShop. Something is still wrong with the wing, but I don't know what it is.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/atest02.jpg

Womball
06-09-2006, 07:14 PM
Batman! Cool bats! I have to check your thread out in more detail a little later. I love animals.

Elliepower
06-10-2006, 01:54 PM
Hi womball,

thanks for stopping by. Yes, bats are cute and sweet little things.

Next step, lightning test. Step by step I recognize what light is doing with form and vice versa. Hehe, this one I dedicate to Mr. SpiritDreamer, I'll call it "Spirit of Life", and it will express what life energy can do to us.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/atest04.jpg

Elliepower
06-11-2006, 01:49 PM
Hello,

how I enjoy this, hehe, this guy totally surrender to what life will bring to him. Spread his wings, smile, closed his eyes. No fear, not thinking about struggeling or perhaps a bad fate.

Something you find wrong with the shortenings, please tell me.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/atest06.jpg

kary
06-11-2006, 08:44 PM
I admit that the words "bat" and "cute" do not naturally go together for me, but I like this series a lot :). I'm just wondering at the intensity of the light on the torso, if the key light is behind the bat (nice job capturing the translucency) I'm not sure of the motivation of the light coming from left of frame, seems to flatten it a bit for me. Captured the energy of flight nicely :).

Rebeccak
06-12-2006, 08:51 PM
Ellie!

This series is looking fantastic ~ I am really intriqued by this direction! Hope you keep going...following your progress with interest. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
06-14-2006, 10:20 AM
Hi Kary,

thx, I decided to take a lighter global illumination, because this should express happyness ans joy, it would be too dark and depressed choosing a darker situation.

Hi Rebecca,

back on www? Thank you for stopping by. I am going on with Loomis. I think now I understand the basic rules of light and shadow, now it is time to come back to proportions.
"Fun with a pencil" seems to be a funny start, so I try to understand the conception of heads.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/atest12.jpg
http://www.elliepower.de/atest11.jpg
http://www.elliepower.de/atest10.jpg

Elliepower
06-15-2006, 03:54 PM
Hi,

producing a lot of waste paper *lol*.

Ciao,
Ellie

Loomis hour

http://www.elliepower.de/atest13.jpg

Cooper&alien hour

http://www.elliepower.de/atest14.jpg

http://www.elliepower.de/atest15.jpg

Elliepower
06-15-2006, 06:21 PM
Hi,

producing more digital waste *rofl* in a very different style. The anatomy of the right arm is a bit weird :D.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/charbattle01ellie.jpg

DigitalSol
06-15-2006, 06:24 PM
Hahaha, just amazing Ellie, great work, what do you prefer, painting or drawing? I really like the last one that Joe Jegger, really good :thumbsup:

Elliepower
06-15-2006, 06:32 PM
Hi DigitalSol,

I watched out "Fun with a pencil" by Loomis, this guy is the result of using his method of construction. I never thought that drawing follows such simple rules.

Thank you!

Ciao,
Ellie

kary
06-15-2006, 08:51 PM
I never thought that drawing follows such simple rules.

I know what you mean. I didn't really understand the simple structure underneath a drawing until I started looking at this forum (and started reading the books recommended in it). I am finding that The Vilppu Drawing Manual works really nicely with Loomis's stuff, it has strengths in different areas then Loomis.

Loomis's Fun with a Pencil is a great book to start. Really well named, it's a lot of fun, especially when the structure starts to click :) It looks like your studies are going well, and your cartoon/caricatures are a lot of fun.

Rebeccak
06-15-2006, 08:57 PM
Hiya Ellie,

You're a nut, :D and it's great to see your new stuff, particularly the nose / mouth studies, which seem to be progressing nicely. :) Looking forward to seeing more fantastic creations with that special Ellie touch. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
06-28-2006, 12:29 PM
Hello rebecca,

nut... *grrrr* I am (minute please, I need a dictionary.. lol) mortally offended.

No, at this time I have fun with an artbattle on the digitalart.de forum, sending my nut Joe Jegger out to fight against other whimsical creatures while I study the Loomis book "Fun with a pencil". Hope it works.

Banana anatomy, drawing from life, this is more serious stuff, right? Or do you see anything whimsical or nut objects in it? *rofl*

Ciao,
Ellie ;)

http://www.elliepower.de/atest19.jpg

Rebeccak
06-29-2006, 04:11 PM
Ellie,

LOL, sorry to have called you a nut :D but it was meant in a funny way, hehe. :)

Good to see your painting, I think it might be improved with more contrast, and perhaps a darker surface, something to contrast with the banana.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
07-01-2006, 05:49 PM
:bounce:

He Rebecca,


just joking... great idea with the head-lesson.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/atest22.jpg
http://www.elliepower.de/atest23.jpg

And finally the 5th one... me.

http://www.elliepower.de/atest21.jpg

Rebeccak
07-01-2006, 07:21 PM
Hiya Ellie, :)

Really think the traditional piece is successful, might want to add a bit more mass to the top and the back of the head. :) With the digital pieces, I think this will be a great exercise to focus on the big areas / major forms / and simplify the details. I think it will help to create swatches and to just see the heads in terms of form and value, not as head as such.

Awwww, nice to see your self portrait! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
07-04-2006, 05:17 PM
Hello,

some nut and some serious stuff.


Loomis and have fun with a pencil:

Ref: http://www.elliepower.de/jochen.png

http://www.elliepower.de/joochy.jpg

Joe Jegger fighting the stickmen Detlef and Hermann *lol*. We had to contain a skeleton, a pan and a callbox. I love doing whimsical things.

http://www.elliepower.de/atest25.jpg

And some serious stuff, speedpaint about 2 hrs.

http://www.elliepower.de/atest24.jpg
Ref:
http://www.elliepower.de/atest24ref.jpg

Ciao,
Ellie

Rebeccak
07-06-2006, 08:18 PM
ROFL Ellie,

Every time I look at that dog, I just crack a smile, that's sooo Ellie! :scream:

I love your sense of whimsy, I never quite know what to expect when I peek inside this thread...:D...which is a good thing! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

kary
07-07-2006, 01:31 AM
Lol I love that dog, just seems so happy. Not sure why it comes across so cleanly (as it's a full up) but you definately hit the lines to make it read well :)

Elliepower
07-17-2006, 04:54 PM
Hello,

thank you kary for stopping by. I bought 2 books about how to draw animals (Jack Hamm and Ken Hultgren) and have some fun with it. I want to go out next time to do more life drawing, but I think to construct forms freehanded helps me to get more control about my pencil.

These were done directly with wacom in PShop 6.0. Life drawing.

http://www.elliepower.de/atest26.jpg

http://www.elliepower.de/atest27.jpg
http://www.elliepower.de/atest28.jpg
http://www.elliepower.de/atest29.jpg

And nut stuff, lol, second and seriously my last round for the funbattle...

http://www.elliepower.de/charbattle02.jpg

Ciao,
Ellie

Rebeccak
07-17-2006, 06:34 PM
Hiya Ellie, :)

Good to see you back with more sketches and more nuttiness! :D

I like your lion sketch, just have a few suggestions for adding more movement to the lines: :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Anatomy%20Thread%20of%20Ellie/Ellie_Review-03.gif

That last image is a little crazy, ROFL! :D

Keep up the good work. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
07-19-2006, 08:05 PM
Hi Rebecca,

thank you very much, I tried to find the right proportions on my little "meow" Lion :D.

A lot of hours later... this pic still needs more attention, but my patience... hehe. This one I constructed totally free and I am a little proud of that this guy really looks angry and wild. He tells everyone: don't crit me too hard... roarrrr... *rofl*.

Something I see now, the right shoulder has to be bigger (muscles), needs more volume because of the pivot/weight.

Ciao,
Ellie


http://www.elliepower.de/atest30.jpg

Elliepower
07-20-2006, 12:37 PM
Hi,

and the colored version:

http://www.elliepower.de/atest31.jpg

I struggle with the strokes and rendering things out, is there any secrets I should know? I found the tutorial of Linda, but it didn't helped me, because I tend to scratch while finding out values and form.

Ciao,
Ellie

Elliepower
07-21-2006, 12:59 PM
Whoa,

I am fighting with the anatomy and the breast/right shoulder of the lion, got some crits about the perspective and now I struggle.

Changing a few things and need, please, some help. For me it looks better now, but before I render out the rest of the picture, I need professional feedback, perhaps here is someone who has a good knowledge about lion's anatomy?

My intention here is to get a dynamic pose, a lion is coming up a hill and suddenly he saw the viewer, it should not be clear if he wants to run away or to start a fight. I tried to pop out the head a bit more than naturally, so that the strength comes out a bit more than it would do in reality.

Thx,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/Lion08ctest.gif

Rebeccak
07-21-2006, 01:05 PM
Ellie, :)

I think the best way to approach this is to find good reference ~ I did a Google search for lion reference and came up with this (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=lion%20skeleton&btnG=Google+Search&sa=N&tab=wi). :) I think it would be useful to approach this painting in the same way as you did with your great bat pieces ~ really drawing the bone structure carefully and then adding layers of muscle and skin on top. The best way is to find several different reference images, both of a lion's skeleton and of a live lion (http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&q=lion+&btnG=Search). Try re~engineering your piece based on the skeletal structure first, I think that will help the most. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
07-21-2006, 01:45 PM
Hi Rebecca,

thank you very much. Google didn't spit out what I need, to use "lion skeleton" is a good idea, lol, I used only "lion anatomy". I also have two books about animal drawing (Hamm and Hultgren) and used them to construct this guy. Perhaps I forced myself too much using this difficult angle of view. But I like this most. *dilemma alarm* :)

How can I check out and be sure that what I do is right or wrong? I feel kinda blind with checking out my own results.

Ciao,
Ellie

Elliepower
07-21-2006, 07:03 PM
Hi,

more lions, the two big paws and the eye after my anatomy books, the rest freehand constructed.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/atest35.jpg

Rebeccak
07-22-2006, 03:34 PM
Hiya Ellie,

I like this page of studies ~ I recommend doing more like them, and also really breaking down the structure of the form.

The main way to understand structure more deeply is by copying from artists such as Bridgeman (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0486227073/002-5875491-5408023?redirect=true&v=glance&n=283155&s=books&v=glance) and Hogarth (http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=br_ss_hs/002-5875491-5408023?redirect=true&platform=gurupa&url=index%3Dblended&keywords=Burne+Hogarth&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go). There's really no shortcuts for the understanding of form, and the more such studies and copies you do, the better you will be able to draw freely from the imagination, and look deeper than the surface when analyzing photos and live reference.

Looking forward to seeing more studies! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
07-23-2006, 02:47 PM
Hi Rebecca,

yes, I know, but there are some people who told me only to draw from life and I am a bit insecure what to do to do it the right way. In another forum I often hear that copying old masters is the wrong way, even to copy from photos or other stuff. Not easy for a beginner like me to decide who is telling the truth and who only wants to feed their own egos or want to fool me, hehe, or something like that. (I don't feel foolished in this place)

Even I never study art or visiting any kind of school this way. Sorry if I ask the same things a couple of times. I am insecure, that's all.

Studies, I know... always my old problem to concentrate for a longer time I start to be more patient and to use a rubber *lol*. Don't know why, but I try to find the lines without erasing the wrong ones.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/atest37.jpg

http://www.elliepower.de/atest36.jpg

Rebeccak
07-23-2006, 04:14 PM
OPB Ellie: yes, I know, but there are some people who told me only to draw from life and I am a bit insecure what to do to do it the right way. In another forum I often hear that copying old masters is the wrong way, even to copy from photos or other stuff. Not easy for a beginner like me to decide who is telling the truth and who only wants to feed their own egos or want to fool me, hehe, or something like that. (I don't feel foolished in this place)
Ellie, if you are unable to draw from life, will God strike you down for drawing from Reference? :D I mean, I do understand that it is better to draw from life, but we don't always have access to a live model or to zoo animals or such. To say that copying from the old masters is wrong to me is ridiculous ~ master copying is a time honored approach to learning how to draw and paint. Look at the website of any atelier (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/atelier_list.asp), or small art school led by a master artist, and you will see that copying from Master Works is an important part of the training.

Is it best to draw / paint from life? Yes. But there's nothing wrong with using Reference, most Illustrators and Artists can't get by without it. Degas as well as many famous artists used photo reference. I don't think that you could fault Degas. ;) Is it wrong to copy from Master Works? No, that's ridiculous. Check out the work of Michael Mentler, aka Doctor Bone, he's doing Master Copies as well.

People like to trumpet these art school phrases, such as "It's best to draw from life" etc. (it makes them feel important ;)) but to me, it's ridiculous not to use reference if your alternative is sitting at home and watching tv :D ~ practice is practice, and it's better to work from reference than nothing at all if you have no other alternative. :) Think of it this way ~ artists in the Renaissance didn't have cameras, and planes were not in existence then, so frequently they would copy from prints of drawings made from master works in other countries. Should someone have stopped them from doing so, saying, "It's best to work from the original!" :D If you were in the Netherlands and couldn't get to Italy to see Michelangelo's masterpieces, would it have been such a bad thing to copy from prints made of his work?

If you can set up still lifes in your home, then that's a good way to draw and paint from life. As well, if your significant other is willing to pose, then that's great too! :) Yes, it's best to draw from life, but no, it is not as though you should sit on your hands and do nothing if you are not able to draw from life. ;)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
07-24-2006, 09:15 AM
Hi Rebecca,

thank you for your kind words. The thread of wrightair shows one more time how people think about "copying" pictures or from other stuff. Surely the goal is to paint free from imagination or drawing from life, for me, too. But the way is long to get the needed skills to do that, I know but I have no problem to improve the "hard way". I only need time, hehe.

In a german forum I started with a copy of a photoref, bad mistake, because with my lion some people assume that I am cheating by tracing the face. This makes me feel sad and angry, too. It is like the chinese aquatic torture... :eek: hard to ignore these people, though I know it is the best way I can handle this.

I booked some books *rofl*, one of Bridgeman you told me and one of Bammes (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/3854921624/302-1659484-7138437?v=glance&n=299956) . And now I enjoy another exercise in animal anatomy... copying, constructing and just having fun.

Ciao,
Ellie

Elliepower
07-24-2006, 12:01 PM
Hi,

horses... about 2 hrs.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/atest38b.jpg
http://www.elliepower.de/atest38.jpg

Rebeccak
07-25-2006, 06:18 AM
OPB Ellie:thank you for your kind words. The thread of wrightair shows one more time how people think about "copying" pictures or from other stuff. Surely the goal is to paint free from imagination or drawing from life, for me, too. But the way is long to get the needed skills to do that, I know but I have no problem to improve the "hard way". I only need time, hehe.

In a german forum I started with a copy of a photoref, bad mistake, because with my lion some people assume that I am cheating by tracing the face. This makes me feel sad and angry, too. It is like the chinese aquatic torture... :eek: hard to ignore these people, though I know it is the best way I can handle this.

I booked some books *rofl*, one of Bridgeman you told me and one of Bammes (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/3854921624/302-1659484-7138437?v=glance&n=299956) . And now I enjoy another exercise in animal anatomy... copying, constructing and just having fun.
Ellie, you're welcome. :) I wish that that thread had not derailed, it was an unfortunate incident, and hopefully one that is concluded. I think a proper analogy for the Anatomy Forum is a Foundations Course in digital / traditional drawing / painting. The focus here is a touchstone; people will use the forum for as long as they find it personally useful, and then they may decide that they need more creative exercises to help them to the next step ~ however, it is my firm belief that no one should approach imaginative work without first having studied from Life and from Reference ~ it's just silly to think that one can conjure images fully and correctly formed from an unstocked imagination. :)

I am glad to hear that you have purchases Bridgemand and Bammes ~ I think both will stand you in good stead. :)

I think one thing that you have to bear in mind with respect to this kind of study ~ it takes a long time. I studied Traditional Drawing and Painting for around 4 years in school, and felt that I had only barely scratched the surface of understanding it. Don't force yourself onto a false time table where you think that you have to do everything perfectly from imagination tomorrow. It's better to spend time learning the foundational lessons thoroughly and well and then progress to imaginative pieces, than it is to rush through your foundations, and end up completely lost when it comes to doing more complex pieces.

I like the direction of the drawing of your latest piece especially; I would recommend again further referencing the skeletal and muscular structure of the horses. ;)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
07-25-2006, 11:53 AM
Hi Rebecca,

oh yes, skeleton and muscles... it is less funny to draw this kind of things, though it is useful. Hehe, I need someone to force me to do that.

Just another one, own reference from our zoo, don't know how these cute little animals call in english. Prairiedogs?

Ciao,
Ellie

Pencil + A4 (letter format) about 1 hr.

http://www.elliepower.de/atest39.jpg

http://www.elliepower.de/atest39b.jpg

edit: can't stop joking

http://www.elliepower.de/atest39c.jpg

Elliepower
07-27-2006, 12:34 PM
Hello,

got my two books and now a lot to read :). And doing more studies from life, hehe.

Teddy on colandar on table *rofl*.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/atest41.jpg

Rebeccak
07-27-2006, 05:51 PM
Ellie,

AAAAAAHAHAHA the prairie dog picture is hilarious :D you know I'm a fan of your nutty humor. :) Looking forward to seeing more studies of all kinds. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Trunks
07-29-2006, 02:15 AM
Hi ellie!
You have got some nice and interresting animal studies in here... also some funny ones :) Hope to see some more of this stuff ... I have no idea of animals I am mostly watching :) Keep it up :D

Elliepower
07-30-2006, 07:22 PM
Hi Trunks,

thank you, I am sure to make more of whimsical animal stuff.

Now from today, a typical german "Strandkorb"... lol... on the beach (baltic sea).

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/atest42.jpg

And from yesterday, try to catch the athmospäre on the way back home. Very hard to remember the right colors and values. Hamburg and a very dark thundery front coming from the north.

http://www.elliepower.de/atest43.jpg

Elliepower
07-31-2006, 10:25 AM
Hi,

monday morning... a lazy Ellie on the couch *rofl*

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/atest44.jpg

SpiritDreamer
07-31-2006, 12:57 PM
Hi....Ellie....:)

Like the thunderstorm....maybe a little something more defined in the forground...wll add to the illussion of depth...and a full range of values ..from light to the darkest darks where the lightning appears in the sky...will add to the drama, and depth.
REALLY like those animal studies....have you ever seen the lions and other animals of Rubens,
he captures great motion, and expression in them...for sure worth studying, if you are going for drama ect.....like in your horse painting...:thumbsup:
Still waiting for that candle light self portrait ...with a lot of mood and atmosphere...:scream: :)

Well mainly just stopped by to say ..Hi, and to see where your imagination has been roaming....always a pleasure seeing your journy...:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Elliepower
08-01-2006, 01:45 PM
Hi Mr. Spiritdreamer,

thank you, right, candle light, I never forgot it, but now it's summer and late in the evening I am too lazy to draw.

More... cats from video and the bigger one constructed.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/atest45.jpghttp://www.elliepower.de/atest46.jpg

Elliepower
08-02-2006, 08:17 AM
Hi,

my "Schatzi" and beloved couchpotato... :D

Ciao,
Ellie

45min. 6B Pencil

http://www.elliepower.de/atest48.jpg

Elliepower
08-09-2006, 12:54 PM
Hi,

boo, I am lazy... but it doesn't matter. Anotzher tryout of my boyfriend.

http://www.elliepower.de/atest50.jpg

And another bat. I love this creatures, they are cute, they are funny... still don't have a good idea for the background, have to watch the sky at night for a nice one. And anatomy, oh yes, still reading and trying to understand volume and next tim I want to take a course for figure drawing. I feel to stuck, drawing here fpr my own and need some teacher.

By using the referenc I try not only to copy the picture, changed the perspective and angle of the head and constructed the rest of the body. My intent is to let this guy look like a heavy but tough hanging crazy one on the tree. Try to get more elastic feeling here and it is still too static.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/atest51.jpg

Rist
08-09-2006, 02:08 PM
I suggest you try a stronger pencil than what you are currently using. Maybe a 4B will do, thats what I mainly use.

Reasons:

-You can still go light by just shading with less force
-You can go alot darker, which adds to depth and shadows
-It blends more subtle
-When erasing with a putty rubber, it creates stronger highlights due to the lead being darker in the first place.

Some nice studies, but they just seem too flat, with a stronger pencil this could be sorted.

Rebeccak
08-09-2006, 02:13 PM
Ellie,

I like the pencil self portrait and portrait of your boyfriend best ~ they really are the most useful, I think, in understanding form, line, shading, etc., and I think with the self portrait in particular you have done a nice job. Ever tried to do a large, full figure self portrait? I mean, life size or just slightly smaller? I think that this might really stretch your capabilities, perhaps you could do this in pencil on good paper that is tacked to the wall or a board.

Great as always to see your work. I think really the next step might be to stretch your capabilities beyond what is just comfortable or convenient ~ perhaps trying a full scale self portrait would be a great next step! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

Elliepower
08-14-2006, 03:05 PM
Hi,

full-sized? What medium could I use, wrapping-paper? Or DIN A3 and sticky-tape? *lol* Don't have any idea how this can work in our little flat. This yould be a bit complicated to do.

Try to get control over the pencils... 6B and 4B for this cat from photo-ref and I took a bigger papersize, A3. 1,5 hrs.

I see, after doing it, where I struggle in understanding what is going on, for example the area between the ears.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/Elliegalerie/katze1800.jpg

SpiritDreamer
08-15-2006, 11:15 AM
Hi....Ellie....:)

Like that page with the cats in action...has a real nice flow of line, forshortening..ect.
Just simple forms overlapping, and interlaceing....creating unified figures, whick can be taken further with shadow and light,...creating volume...:bounce:
Have you tried using ..ball point pen...forces your mind to work in a different manner than it does with pencil....better.....try it you'll SEE...:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Elliepower
08-20-2006, 03:27 PM
Hi,

I am trying a lot, Mr. Spirit Dreamer :). And I bought some wrapping paper for a fullsize selfportrait... lol... next week...

Thx fl3wk for your advice, I have some problems to control the pressure. Think I am a little bad with my fine motor skills.

My first try with a pen-drawing with black ink

http://www.elliepower.de/atest55a.jpg

and pencil

normal coated copy paper

http://www.elliepower.de/atest54.jpg

bristol paper, rough structure

http://www.elliepower.de/atest53.jpg

and one more

http://www.elliepower.de/atest56.jpg

Thomasphoenix
08-20-2006, 05:50 PM
Whoa! You have a natural flair for drawing Animals! :)! Ken Hultgren is an Artist/Author u might find very Interesting!

Elliepower
08-26-2006, 03:15 PM
Hi Thomasphoenix,

thanks, I have bought a book of Hultgren *smile* it is fun pure. Not as much time as I want to have for drawing. Pen drawing and coloured pencil on linen-structured (?) paper... and still missing the "back" button and possibility to correct the proportions in Photoshop, *lol*. It is much easier working in the digital area. Photoref used.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/atest57.jpg

SpiritDreamer
08-26-2006, 05:23 PM
Hi..Ellie...LOVE THAT ORANGATANG DRAWING....CAME OUT GREAT....:applause: :thumbsup:
Can't wait to see that new full sized selfportrait..:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Elliepower
09-12-2006, 07:45 PM
Hi,

hehe, this is not me but... the first results of the figure-drawing-course I take. Yeah... drawing from life rules! It was very exciting, meeting other artists, help from the teacher... nice, I felt like at school, lol, when I was 16 years old... so long ago.

Ciao,
Ellie

5 min./pose

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/Akt01-01.jpg
http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/Akt01-02.jpg

15 min.
http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/Akt01-03.jpg

NR43
09-12-2006, 08:04 PM
Hi Ellie,

what a wonderful thing you have going here!
I agree with Siju, you draw animals in a most impressive way!
But what I like most about you is your great imaginative powers

There, have a nice day ;)

SpiritDreamer
09-13-2006, 12:38 PM
Hi....Ellie...:thumbsup:

OK...Now I am jealous...:scream: I have been thinking of going back to school myself for the last couple of years...but keep putting it off...nice to see someone of or age actually do it..:thumbsup: :)
LIKE those life drawing drawings...can't wait to see more...takes awhile to get back into the grove..should get better with each one,...if I remember corectly...been a long time...:scream:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
09-14-2006, 12:26 AM
Ellie,

It's fantastic to see that you've taken up life drawing! :) And it's nice to see the familiar Ellie humor in that last piece. I look forward to seeing more!

Cheers,

-Rebeccak

Cris-Palomino
09-14-2006, 09:21 AM
I love those prairie dogs....so funny. And I really love that last dog drawing. Very nice work.

Cris

Elliepower
09-23-2006, 02:57 PM
Hello,

thank you all for the kind words. Yes, not much time but going on with whimsical things. Only to have fun. And last week we got anatomy theorie... lol, shown at a skeleton and a life model. Very funny and it is much easier to understand the human anatomy if you can see both.

Ciao,
Ellie


http://www.elliepower.de/Elliegalerie/katze2800.jpg

And surgicat-stuff free interprated...

http://www.elliepower.de/Elliegalerie/delfin1800.jpg

Elliepower
09-26-2006, 08:13 PM
Hello,

and some serious stuff. Second session of the figure-drawing course.

Ciao,
Ellie

small ones, volume, 5 min

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/Akt01-04.jpg

and one big guy, 40 min.
http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/Akt01-05.jpg

Rebeccak
09-26-2006, 08:22 PM
and one big guy, 40 min.
http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/Akt01-05.jpg
Ooh, lots of potential with this one Ellie...keep up the good work. :)

Elliepower
10-02-2006, 02:06 PM
Hello,

potential, hehe, that is a reason to try humans again. I could this never do without using a reference, but wanting more than I could do without... doing this. Before I go on with this, I wish you could give me some advices, please?

Thanks,
Ellie

ref I used for anatomy and light... this one inspired me a lot... sexy guy. :D And I decides to let both look much more gothic.

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/stepref.jpg

steps until now...
http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/steps6.gif

And the static version of the last step. Time I spent on this about 12 hrs. His hands and rest of the pose free from mind.

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/step06.jpg

Don't ask, I got severeal problems with the materials, the robes should be velvet, hair is rough sketched.

SpiritDreamer
10-02-2006, 02:38 PM
Hi...Ellie...:thumbsup:

Like that cat alot...:)
On your last painting.....watch the forground arm of the woman....long outward sweeping curve on outside back of her upper arm.....nice S curve on the inside upper arm...both missing in yours at the moment.
Like the colors your going for...nice combination...:thumbsup:
Always helpfull to see the bones that you are putting the muscles on..great way to train your eyes and mind...keep up the great work....glad to hear you are enjoying your class ..:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Elliepower
10-02-2006, 10:36 PM
Hi Mr. SpiritDreamer,

japp, you are right and you see everything. So, there is ghost-hour in good old hamburg and I have to go to bed now. But not without joking, don't know the english word for "verflüssigen filter" but it is fun to play with the face of the man.

Ciao,
Ellie :bounce:

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/gag01.gif

Elliepower
10-03-2006, 07:27 PM
Hi,

next step...

Ciao,
Ellie :)

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/step09.jpg

Elliepower
10-04-2006, 02:15 PM
Hi,

uff, can't see this no more...

...and call it final.

:shrug:

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/Elliegalerie/menschen2800.jpg

http://www.elliepower.de/Elliegalerie/menschen1800.jpg

Elliepower
10-05-2006, 01:35 PM
Hi,

and an unknown force talked me to finish this... japp... whimsical creature. And I want to let everybody know: Don't forget the sweets, Halloween is near.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/Elliegalerie/gruselbat1800.jpg

Elliepower
10-06-2006, 08:45 PM
Hello,

and another one, my daddy. Should be a Speedy, but then time goes by... 5-6hrs.

Ciao,
Ellie

The photo from yesterday, he is a bit shy and hard to get, hehe.

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/papsref.jpg

http://www.elliepower.de/Elliegalerie/paps800.jpg

Elliepower
10-08-2006, 10:00 PM
Hi,

more practise... no Ref except a mirror and myself and my fantasy. About 5 hrs today.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/kopf01.jpg

SpiritDreamer
10-08-2006, 11:39 PM
Hi....Ellie.....:bounce: :applause: :thumbsup: :)

FINALLY get to see the type of self portrait that I knew you were capaple of...very expressive.
BEAUTIFUL JOB...:thumbsup:
GREAT job on the one above it also....glad you have enough sense not to rush perfection...:scream:
LOVE that bat...one of a kind...for sure...:scream: :)
GREAT to see your work and progress Ellie, and am really glad you did that self portrait the way you did it...came out GREAT...:applause: :thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

Elliepower
10-09-2006, 03:16 PM
Hi Mr. Spirit Dreamer,

thank you for the kind words. Hehe, a lot of fantasy is in it I think, though my boyfriend indentify me. :eek: For fun and t find out how this damned (sorry) blending works with my old PShop 6. I think some day I really need an update.

So, got a lot other things to do, but I did this. A hybrid between a Speedy and something else. Reference used from surgicat for the embryo, wanted to try out how depth works.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/homosapblue.jpg
http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/homosapgreen.jpg

Elliepower
10-10-2006, 12:19 PM
Hi,

forced myself to do some of the torsos from the workshop. Why is it so difficult to save only a few minutes a day to do it?

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/torso01.jpg
http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/torso02.jpghttp://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/torso03.jpg

Elliepower
10-10-2006, 07:25 PM
Hi,

and from the figure drawing workshop today, B6 pencil.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/101006-01.jpg

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/101006-02.jpg

40 min. not enough time
http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/101006-03.jpg

Elliepower
10-11-2006, 03:59 PM
Hi,

parking another speedpaint. Googled for some references, there are tons of mamageis I found. But no ones really pleases me, so I did this. Try to fix the idea of a colorful jungle, mamagei found a little necklace like the magpies do. Picking up all what is shiny.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/mamagei01.jpg

NR43
10-11-2006, 05:56 PM
Hi Ellie,

nice flood of paintings occuring in your thread :)

you mentioned " 40 min. not enough time" with your life drawing(s)... does it help to try to do a really quick and rough sketch to get the main proportions on paper first and then starting to correct and add details?

Or maybe it was just one of those days...

nice parrot btw!

SpiritDreamer
10-12-2006, 12:06 PM
Hi....Ellie....:thumbsup:

REALLY like that embreo suspended in the ocean....great concept....:)
Also like the last figure of the model laying in deep space....nice forshotening, using overlapping shapes...:thumbsup:
Always like to see Macaws....You might think about having it flying to it's hidden stach of treasure's....overflowing from the entrance to it's nest..a huge hole in the trunk of a tree,
maybe a couple of baby faces sticking thier faces out from amongst all the shiny treasures:scream: :) ....JUST A PASSING THOUGHT..:)
GREAT to see all of your new work...:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Elliepower
10-12-2006, 01:58 PM
Hello NR43,

yes, I stucked while looking at the model and waited for our teacher, lol, I think that is the reason. I need more practice doing life drawing.

Mr. Spirit Dreamer,

hehe, I love your ideas. But this is much easier, even I tried to ignore the photos I found, so the guy looks a bit out of proportions, lol.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/Elliegalerie/papagei1800.jpg

SpiritDreamer
10-12-2006, 02:28 PM
Hi....Ellie...:thumbsup:
I like the refinements on that macaw....the proportions are pretty much ok...only the flight feathers, the ones that run out at the top of the wings, could be a tad longer, and the top of the farthest away wing, should be a darker sky blue color, and the same with the top of the head....need more color in those two areas....It's a blue and gold macaw...they have a beautiful turquise blue on thier backs, top side of wings, and heads...used as camaflage when flying, so the eagles have a hard time seeing them from above.
I spoon fed and raised one years ago..when I used to raise exotic birds..turned out great, and yes he for sure loved shiny things, ..especally peoples rings, which he would ever so gently crush and bend on thier fingers....always having to run and get the pliers to straighten out the rings....LOL...:scream: ....Your painting brought back a fond memory....THANKS.:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Elliepower
10-15-2006, 12:30 PM
Hi Mr. SpiritDreamer,

we had some parrots when I was a child.

Noe, life drawing, the hand of my boyfriend an the overpaint by myself digitally. I really try to understand volume and how to create it. Hard to get, I tend to struggle in a very chaotic way because of impatience and I deal much too gentle with values, espeacially doing something analog, because I think: don't make a single mistake,
better to be careful.

But that really looks flat, lol.

And I find it hard to decide how to shade, crossover or other kinds of strokes. And then I got chaos with this.

Ciao,
Ellie

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/chrishand1.gif

SpiritDreamer
10-23-2006, 02:09 PM
Hi...Ellie...:) :thumbsup:

I like the hand, and am glad to see you getting into them at this point...really will benifit all of your paintings down the road...you might consentrate on the underlying bone and tendon structure...wrist, knukles ect.....A really FANTASTIC book, and one that I highly reccomend to anyone who is studying hands, is....DRAWING DYNAMIC HANDS by BURNE HOGARTH...you can get through Amazon .com on the internet, or just about any good book store.
It is a great book, and will answer all the questions that you expressed in your post, and a whole lot more....That book is one of the most valued treasures in my home library...:)
LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING MORE OF YOUR WORK, ALWAYS A GREAT PLEASURE...:thumbsup: :)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Cris-Palomino
10-23-2006, 10:16 PM
Great work, Ellie. Love that macaw...wonderful character you've put into it.

Cris

Elliepower
10-31-2006, 07:59 PM
Hi,

thank you both. Ah, last week we went to Mallorca for vacations, an island in the Mediterranean. Wonderful wheather, warm water, high waves, sunny and beautiful landscapes. Unfortunateley the CF Card in my digicam failed and we only have the lowres pics from the handy of my daughter. But better than nothing.

No back, it is cold and dark here in germany. :sad: Want to go back to the south.

But today another figure drawing session. Lights up my life, hehe.

Ciao,
Ellie


10 min. A4
http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/akt01_3110.jpg
http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/akt02_3110.jpg

30min. A3
http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/akt04_3110.jpg

and my boyfriend from holidays
http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/akt03_3110.jpg

Rebeccak
10-31-2006, 08:03 PM
Heya Ellie,

It's good to see how prolific you've been. :) Glad to hear your vacation went well - must have been a lot of fun. :thumbsup:

Your macaw image turned out really nicely - but you know I really like the creepy foetal imagery better - very cool stuff. Am glad to hear the life drawing sessions are going well.

Cheers,

-Rk

Elliepower
11-18-2006, 08:07 PM
Hi,

yes, sometimes I like them more, too. Surgical stuff for inspiration and main anatomy for the right creature to do this. Psst, I am a bit lazy the last time.

How to translate. Hope this is correct, done for fun.

"Don't enunciate me" or The amputation of truth.

http://www.elliepower.de/Elliegalerie/tabu1800.jpg

Nicole420
11-18-2006, 09:23 PM
I love the work you've done... And I love your whimsical sense of humor! You've improved so much from your first post! *And the bird is awesome!*
~Nicole~

SpiritDreamer
11-19-2006, 03:29 PM
Hi...Ellie...:thumbsup:

Just saw this last post of yours.....WOW...VERY IMPRESSED....LOVE THE STYLE, AND THE
THOUGHT BEHIND THIS PAINTING...BOTH ARE BEAUTIFUL...:bounce: :thumbsup: :)
Really looking forward to seeing more of that IMAGINATION of YOURS at PLAY....:scream: :thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
11-19-2006, 03:50 PM
Ellie,

This last piece is really strong! The concept and the execution really match each other. Very nice work. :)

Elliepower
11-28-2006, 07:52 PM
Hi,

thank you, Rebecca. Hmm, don't think, show the link... :scream: more work from life, some from photo. Pencil used for the studies.

Ciao,
Ellie


http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/2811_04.jpg


From life, this cute man. I love the figure drawin course and booked the next one today, starting in feb. 2007.

Small ones, 5min.

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/2811_02.jpg
http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/2811_03.jpg

30 Min. DIN A3.
http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/2811_01.jpg


for fun... from mind without ref.
http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/weihskizze03.jpg

from ref
http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/nov01013.jpg
http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/nov01014.jpg

Elliepower
02-12-2007, 09:01 PM
Hi all,

I got to stop for a while, because my arm ached (don't know how you call it, a mouse-arm *lol*) :( but now I try with a lot patience not to do too much... hard for me just looking and not drawing. But this is for fun, nor ref used.

Ciao,
Ellie

Steps

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/viech02.jpg
http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/viech03.jpg

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/viech04.jpg

and final, I feel beeing 15 again doing this.

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/viech05.jpg

SylvanMist
02-12-2007, 10:11 PM
Hi, nice sketches you have here!
I really like your macaw painting..I love parrots :)
And that santa claus one, hahaha, that's so funny!

Gord-MacDonald
02-13-2007, 01:34 AM
Some lovely work here!

NR43
02-13-2007, 07:07 AM
Hi Elliepowerterribly sorry to hear about your arm (I'm having the same issue but I'm fortunate enough to draw lefthanded and having the syndrom at my right arm, also from "mousing".)
Hope all is better now!!

That is some wild pose you've given that horse-ish creature :D

SpiritDreamer
02-13-2007, 11:51 AM
Hi...Ellie...:)

I miss seeing your imagination at play and work....sorry to hear about the arm....maybe it's time to invest in a pen and tablet..it will be money well spent for sure I think...so much more can be done with a pen and tablet, that a mouse just cannot do..plus a whole lot easier on the joints..:)
Hows your life class going by the way....just started a figure drawing class myself....having a ball in that class...was inspired by you going back to school....feels a little strange at first, being older than the teacher...but have gotten used to it...good for the old spirit.....:scream:
I like the horse/raptor....great idea...:applause: :thumbsup:
LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING MORE OF YOUR CREATIONS..:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
02-13-2007, 02:53 PM
Ellie,

Have you been painting all this time with a mouse? o_O If you can, please please get a tablet! It's called carpal tunnel syndrome and this can be very very dangerous, so I definitely encourage you to invest in a Wacom tablet if at all possible. It's just not worth risking your health to paint with a mouse!

Elliepower
02-13-2007, 03:18 PM
Hi,

nooo, I have an intuos and drawing is not the main problem. It is typing... and a wrong and unhealthy pose in front of the keyboard for many years my doc told me. Mostly this problems are owned by musicians and datatypists. In my job as a DTP-Operator I had to work a lot with the keyboard and mouse for many years.

Now I am "mousing" *lol* with my left hand, try to type less and to sit more ergonomic in front of my keyboard. Hardest thing for me is to draw less... so I spend more time reading books about art or to look around here... :D BTW great fineprints Rebecca.


Ciao,
Ellie

anandpg
02-13-2007, 04:16 PM
God! here is another great thread I completely missed! Awesome paintings, Elliepower! Great to see such imagination!:bounce:

Elliepower
02-21-2007, 09:17 AM
Hi,

thx :)

So, yesterday the doctor said, it is a chronical tendosynovitis and I have to be careful using my arm. The pain is very low but consistant, there is no carpaltunnelsyndrom and the meridian nerv seems to be ok. I am not satisfied, because I think there must be something to heal this damned f...ing arm... *lol*

At the moment I took out the pressure from the wacom and try generally to draw with less pressure.

So, I visit the figure drawing course I booked, it is much fun.

Ciao,
Ellie


30 min with ballpen and correction of the right leg by our teacher. Nice model, hehe...

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/200207-01.jpg

and a funny excercise, our model walked slowmotion and we had to capture the anatomy in 3 min. from all sides.

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/200207-02.jpg

And, doodeling with Rubens... pencil A5

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/rubenssatyr01.jpg

Rebeccak
02-21-2007, 02:11 PM
Beautiful sketches Ellie! I am sorry about your arm, I think we will start a tendinitis support group forum hehe. :) Best of luck with finding a treatment and I hope that it heals soon.

Elliepower
02-25-2007, 11:19 AM
Hi Rebecca,

thank U. Yes, it could be a good idea... *lol*

Hmmm, ref used, about 6 x 8 inch (DIN A5, is it right?), 45 min. The feet... :D

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/feb01018.jpg

several www-refs

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/feb01017.jpg

SpiritDreamer
02-25-2007, 02:48 PM
Hi...Ellie...:thumbsup:

Nice group of drawings...really capturing a nice feeling, and also the character in them...:thumbsup:
That standing woman one...very nice line and shading..BEAUTIFUL JOB..:applause:
Hope your arm heals soon, and the pain stays away..:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

Rebeccak
02-25-2007, 04:44 PM
Ellie! I really love that top drawing, it shows so much improvement and potential - beautiful work! :)

NR43
02-25-2007, 05:41 PM
Great work Ellie!
Keep at it (when the arm allows ;) )

Got school myself again too tomorrow... bit scared to go really... hm will see... might work out just fine :D


would love to see you doing a detailed study in ballpen

take care,
Johan

Elliepower
02-26-2007, 09:51 PM
Hi,

thank you both. My arm hurts a bit, but works. Trying to do something with less pressure: acrylic... never done this before, but trial & error.

Ciao,
Ellie

Hmmm, after ref of a dog's skull. About 2,5 hrs. ca. 20 x 30 cm, bad colours, because it is pretty dark here at night (artificial light).

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/acryl02.jpg

Rebeccak
02-27-2007, 07:49 AM
Very nice, especially for a first effort! Heh, we'll have to start a support group for you and Johan. :) Art addicts anonymous. :D

Elliepower
02-27-2007, 08:03 AM
Hi Rebecca,

it is much easier to work with a brush for my arm. One digital more from the last weekend, thanks to Ron :), a great model.

Ciao,
Ellie

Speedy, without pressure, about 2 hrs., very low res (800*600 at 72 dpi)

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/Ron01.jpg

And playing around with layer modi *gg*

http://www.referenzia.de/Zeichnen/Ron02.jpg

kary
02-27-2007, 06:18 PM
Thats really nice Ellie. I like the modified version a bit more -- it is reminiscent of old paper, and the painting stands up well in it.

My sympathizes on your arm, I've had a few twinges out of mine over the years that keep me using a light touch. That has kept off the worst for me, hopefully just being careful with it will be enough to hold off the worst for you.

NR43
02-27-2007, 07:35 PM
nice study
like the traditional feel it has