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toongo
04-04-2006, 01:32 PM
toongo is entered in the "The Journey Begins Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/journey_begins/view_entries.php?challenger=11326)

Latest Update: Modeling: pose model
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/11326/11326_1145009249_medium.jpg (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3452911#post3452911)

toongo
04-04-2006, 02:07 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/11326/11326_1144156030_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/11326/11326_1144156030_large.jpg)

Hello everyone. It's my pleasure to join this season of challenge.

Since I need to reduce my production time, design and modeling are pretty much working it out

together. At the moment when I still haven't finalize my composition, I started to build from some

of the element which i've already designed and work it out on the way to complete my composition.

The following are the shorts of my work in progress.

ChewyPixels
04-04-2006, 02:09 PM
Sweet! I really like your concept art. :thumbsup: The smaller images to the right are a little difficult to see. Maybe we can see some larger versions?

komsa
04-04-2006, 02:16 PM
Nice, vivid concept. Keep going!

myJourney (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/journey_begins/view_entries.php?challenger=10869)

targus
04-04-2006, 03:13 PM
Yes, show us some bigger concept's, it's hard to understand what you are going to do.

toongo
04-05-2006, 02:36 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/11326/11326_1144200960_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/11326/11326_1144200960_large.jpg)

some horse's bone model

zhengbyby
04-05-2006, 10:52 AM
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
it 's a really fine notional design,
we will continue to give our attention to your works !

zhengbyby
04-05-2006, 10:54 AM
it 's a really fine notional design,

we will continue to give our attention to your works
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

gary-smith
04-05-2006, 12:51 PM
Great work toongo, the modeling is very nice :D Are you using Maya for your entry? The concept work is also great, I'm loving it so far. Good luck on the competition :D

HapZungLam
04-05-2006, 02:42 PM
Very nice model. And i love your drawings. The render looks alittle grainy, i believe is the GI setting need to tweak a little higher. But its not really that important. Modeling looks fantastic there.

toongo
04-05-2006, 03:22 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/11326/11326_1144246946_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/11326/11326_1144246946_large.jpg)

pose test one :)

toongo
04-05-2006, 03:58 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/11326/11326_1144249079_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/11326/11326_1144249079_large.jpg)

pose test 2

toongo
04-06-2006, 10:43 AM
Jedi-Juice: Thanks, now I am working on the bigger picture, at present I just want to draw what I am thinking in my mind, and I will continue to endeavor in my work and to perfect my concept design.

komsa: Thanks again!:) I will keep.

targus: Thanks too.The picture in bigger size will be finished in the coming days.

zhengbyby: Thanks for your putting your concentration, I will try me best.

Necksmasher: Yes, the model was made in maya application, the reason I made the bones is that there is a horse in my works. In order to fully understand the structure of a horse and which direction the muscles go in a horse body I made a comprehensive research and then made it carefully, I think it will give convenience to my latter work.

HapZungLam: Thanks my old friend.I will pay more attention to the problem happened, and make better works in the future.

makaron
04-06-2006, 12:15 PM
pose 2 is a beutiful image :applause: gonna be intresting to see your progress

NYA~~
04-06-2006, 02:47 PM
I like it, look forword to your work! I will see when you finish.

toongo
04-06-2006, 03:30 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/11326/11326_1144333803_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/11326/11326_1144333803_large.jpg)

The followings are muscles, hopefully get your advice.
Then I will try to update the pictures everyday, hopefully you can know my pace via this method.

toongo
04-06-2006, 03:42 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/11326/11326_1144334570_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/11326/11326_1144334570_large.jpg)

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BAMU
04-06-2006, 03:53 PM
I don't know anything about horse anatomy, so I can't give you any advice, but, I know that you really make a great job with this one, quite immpresive. looking forward to see how thi evolve.

Crin
04-06-2006, 05:23 PM
May i ask why your going to so much trouble to model all the underlying muscle and bone structure?


It looks good man, I don't know it it's anatomically correct or anything but it looks right to me.

amz23
04-06-2006, 05:57 PM
Ohh! Nice modeling, are you gonna use a skin plugin that uses those muscles or something?

I know it's a preview, but I don't think horses run like that... maybe seeing it as a skeleton tricks my mind :)

Anyways great work :thumbsup: !

niCer
04-06-2006, 09:50 PM
It Looks very fine ! nice one! thumbsup

DaddyMack
04-06-2006, 10:14 PM
Whoah... A serious creature in the making toongo, it will be interesting indeed to watch as you go through the process of realising this image:thumbsup: Good luck:thumbsup:

Womgoose
04-06-2006, 11:25 PM
Crazy detail, good luck :bounce:

tell551
04-07-2006, 02:52 AM
great concept, great start!

Well done!

Good luck!!

toongo
04-07-2006, 02:55 AM
-BAM- :Thank you for your kindly focusing. About the evolving of the muscles, I do not plan to do it now. The purpose I made the muscles is to make clear how the muscles go, it will be a good reference for my latter real model. In spite of taking me great effort to work on these muscles, I still felt it is worthy.

Crin :Thx,The reason why I made so complex muscle structure is that I want to give a good reference for my real model period. I hope that I could be improved via attending this competition. So I read a lot of reference materials and try to make very spot brilliant and precise.

amz23 :thanks,I did not use any plug-in on the muscles, they were made under nurbs. Now I am still doing research on how is horse running like, if you have some materials would you please share with me.

niCer :thanks,I will try my best.

DaddyMack :thanks,Good luck.

Womgoose :yeah !I am crazy machine! :twisted:

amz23
04-07-2006, 06:21 AM
Hi!

About the plugins I meant what are you gonna use to create the "envelope" (the actual skin, not the underlying muscles) of the horse, because as someone else already mentioned, we're wondering why you're puting so much effort in modeling the muscles ;) (now I see you're creating them for reference purpouses)

About the horse movements I'll look up something for you :thumbsup:

Those who are about to render salute you!

Womball
04-07-2006, 07:06 AM
Really beautiful sketches! And the muscles look pretty good too. Although the bones in the lower legs look fused and it seems your missing muscles in the face and lower legs, as well as the trapezius (I guess that's what its called in the horse), the upper back triangular muscle. Is that a plugin for maya? It looks like the plugin they sell at the cgsociety store or are they modeled? I'm modelling muscles too for another project and I'm not sure how your doing the striations. Are they UV mapped?

I agree its really good to have an understanding of the muscles of the figure. It really helps with creating edge loops. Also old how to draw animal books are useful too. I really think that your extra work will pay off in the end. Good luck!

bkeiser3d
04-07-2006, 08:23 AM
Neat muscles, kept us informed where you are going with this. I hope you not over killing your concept. The best reference is real reference. goodluck, you horse's look cool.

hhssuu
04-07-2006, 08:47 AM
interesting approach man, you go to so much trouble to make it acurate. I feel it will be a very solid piece of work, keep it up! and nice muscles btw :)

smallstones
04-07-2006, 10:07 AM
Its really nice design.

I feel it should look more powerful if the muscles on the neck of horse are more flexual.

Anyway, its a fantastic work!

toongo
04-07-2006, 12:26 PM
Womball :Thank you focusing. Not UV mapped. Just use shader ~Share it. Hope can help your:)

http://tk.files.storage.msn.com/x1pxzZ39wV--_ciBOY6jKeWIacNwS0W81gtuCAQk97h05lZAIofw-AhSz8yDvPGiCE2iFaxGVdqfLD-oS9ofEG1avlhaUEH2PXlfbGbBzzuJRQ9LUL5OIRKxzh55J4QrCPZanl9PIWq5jE

dagann
04-08-2006, 04:58 PM
Wow, impressive work.
I'm also working on a horse (specially the head), and i can tell you that's a hard job.

I hope to see your model achieved.
Keep it up!

targus
04-09-2006, 12:47 PM
Wow, just perfect.
It's so hard and composite, you are going to do something really great i think.

WhiteLynx
04-09-2006, 05:17 PM
Impressive! Very nice study!
Good look on the Challenge!

honWai
04-10-2006, 09:41 AM
wow..Toongo..
u r really dedicated..!!
are u goin to model the real-moving-action-static horse after tis?
very very impressive u done such deep into the tendons, muscle strucle so much..

n ur composite..
well i knw u r quite an expert on texturing..k..

well..wait to c ya finished work..
all the best man..=):thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
jiayow~!

WhiteLynx
04-10-2006, 10:12 AM
Impressive! Very nice study!
Good look on the Challenge!

I ment good luck on the Challenge... I think I am studing to much german... :thumbsup:

drummer
04-10-2006, 12:47 PM
wow !! cool study :eek:

jadecilcleton
04-10-2006, 12:56 PM
Hello toongo! yor piece looks like have very details. Im alwais have fear to dip into things like bones structures and muscles. Some times im think that we can "dribble" thats stuffs walking on other paths. But i always feel that nothing works better that the kind of approach that you choose. I just would like to see more about the concept, because the performance its genial.

Good luck! and see you!

toongo
04-10-2006, 03:10 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/11326/11326_1144678222_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/11326/11326_1144678222_large.jpg)

thanks everyone !!
this my new work ~some test ~

toongo
04-11-2006, 09:11 AM
Wow, impressive work.
I'm also working on a horse (specially the head), and i can tell you that's a hard job.

I hope to see your model achieved.
Keep it up!

oh ~thanks your focusing my work . yes ,horse model I think is hard job.I will do my best !

At last thanks bkeiser3d hhssuu smallstones targus WhiteLynx drummer jadecilcleton and honWai support me !:) Good luck on this challenges !Make more friends !:)

NYA~~
04-11-2006, 10:40 AM
that's good, from now on i don't know what you are doing, but i think soon i can know what is that.

toongo
04-11-2006, 02:23 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/11326/11326_1144761802_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/11326/11326_1144761802_large.jpg)

hello,everyone. This is my new work !Hope u like it ,and give plz give me some advice,thanks !

Nomad
04-11-2006, 02:54 PM
Nice progress :thumbsup:


I like alot the knife, reminds me Tomb Raider :)



Great work so far :bounce:

toongo
04-12-2006, 02:48 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/11326/11326_1144806484_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/11326/11326_1144806484_large.jpg)

more details

simovici
04-12-2006, 07:42 AM
Very nice and detailed knife and the same for the shader yo used.

oceanbluesky
04-12-2006, 07:59 AM
beautiful sketches, nice background to your horse models too...really look forward to seeing where you go with this, the quality of your work is first-rate...(wish you had entered earlier so we could have seen even that much more!) --Thanks for sharing your use of displacement maps too...you really put them to use well. Good luck!

toongo
04-14-2006, 11:07 AM
http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/11326/11326_1145009249_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/11326/11326_1145009249_large.jpg)

in recent days i was researching how are the muscles like when horse is running. it should be very complex. in order to setting a reference for the pose i will make in the future, i tried to lay the pose with some piece of muscles. and also i made some modification on some parts.i am going to use a great deal of Zbrush in the latter modeling period to make out the details which could be like real !

dagann
04-21-2006, 03:23 PM
Great job!

I'm waiting for the skin over the muscles.

targus
04-21-2006, 05:27 PM
Fantastic, just fantastic.. nothing to say more :)

serge1971
04-30-2006, 02:07 AM
Hi Toongo. How is your project going? I wanted to say I love your work. Every picture you've posted is a piece of art by itself. I'm anxiously awaiting updates! Good luck! :)

Staszek
04-30-2006, 11:04 PM
lot of work you have - pay antention on the anatomy - there is many difrences from real - espetially shapes of the muscles, - high level of technicue work you choose

your skeches are greate!
generaly good work - keep it up

alvin-cgi
05-02-2006, 03:47 AM
love the details of your works!:)

The Journey Begins (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=322760&highlight=alvin)
Spectacular 3D (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=275950&highlight=alvin)

NYA~~
05-02-2006, 09:49 AM
Is good to see, your horse is been more look like horse than before!

Selina42
05-07-2006, 09:00 PM
Cant crit this! -just loving your work and i hope you get it finished!

anticz
05-14-2006, 08:33 AM
Great googli-moogli... Did you rig all those muscles yourself? That's fantastic. Can't wait to see how this turns out.

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