The Journey Begins Challenge (2D) Entry: Omer Nainudel

[omer-n]

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ok so this is my first 2d challenge entry, i have more experience in 3d but maybe i'll take the chance

anyway this is my first concept
hope u like and crits are more than welcome!

[EdP-Art]

It looks interesting, are y0u going to add more detail? What are your plans for finishing it?

[omer-n]

hi

thanks for the comment, about adding more detail i'm not too sure- i do want to add more details maybe a destination like a far away city so it will look like the character is going on a journey and not just enjoyng the view- maybe add another character or creature to the cliff like a companion for the journey but i;m afraid it will take away from the simplicity of the image
which in my opinion makes it the most powerful emotionally

i'll try to post some more concepts with more details today ....

i never did a detailed painting before so i hope i can do it if not maybe i'll swith to 3d with the concept

cheers :)

[elgrozni]

It looks pretty nice, lovely colors and composition. But it doesnt look like he's going anywhere since there in no road and he hasnt got anything to fly with like wings or an airplane or anything either. It looks like he's just watching the beautiful sunset. I suggest giving us some hints how he's getting somewhere.

Keep it up!

Klemen

[omer-n]

hi klemen, thanks for your comment!
i will try to give more details to the work to as where the character is going
maybe a bridge or maybe some faraway destination like a city in the horizon
i'll post some more concepts today
omer :)

[omer-n]

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played a little with lighting and addded a cityscape-

tell me if this is better for understanding he is going on a journey and not just watching the view......

[elgrozni]

I think it's better like this. I guess it's the time to detail everything up a bit... I think you should start using some more hard-edged brushes by now. Maybe It would look better if you would cut a little canvas in the bottom and add a little bit in the top. Keep it goin :thumbsup:

[omer-n]

thanks for the crit! :thumbsup:


i'm still working on concept stage i have a few more ideas i would like to try so i still use soft brushes
i will take your advice on streching the canvas up maybe i'll sizeup the character

hope the cityscape makes more sense to a journey story wise.

[omer-n]

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thought i'll go biblical -
noah and the ark after the storm
the begining of a journey.... new life

what do u think?

[Kraggles55]

I love the giraffe!!:thumbsup: It's quite unexpected to see one on a cliff! Usually I think of white doves with Noah, but this is so much better. Go with it!

[flamingbs]

Hehe, cool idea. I agree that it's surprising to see a giraffe on a cliff, but I think it makes the picture very original. A white dove would be good in there too, though... maybe on his staff or something. Good luck!

[omer-n]

thanks for the comment!!

craig: glad u like the giraffe , one of my my goals is to be as original as i can yet true to a story and while i couldnt find an original story i thought i'll concentrate on the image.
i plan on adding some more animals, i thought to add a hint of the ark itself but i guess its obvious this is noah .... thanks :thumbsup:

flaming ben: i'll take your advice on the dove, thought i'll add it flying on the horizon
and maybe i'lll add some more animals, i cant remember did he take his wife with him on the ark??? :) thanks for comment

[omer-n]

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added more details - i think i'll stop concepting and start realizing

[flamingbs]

The progress is looking good. Yeah, he took his wife and his sons and their wives on the ark, but it would be a bit crowded to show all of them. Maybe just his wife if you want to show another person there with him. Keep it up!

[EdP-Art]

I like it, I can see the story. The Noah's ark didn't hit me until you mentioned it in your comments but it works well. you're almost there. :thumbsup:

[anzibon]

can those of us that stared at it for ten minutes before remembering that Noah landed his boat on top of a mountain... please see more of the boat?

if i had gotten sooner that that was a boat and not more cliff, the whole thing would have been clearer. i really like your concept, but i especially like how you've presented it.

really good stuff,
~B

PS - needs one more monkey and about 20 rabbits looking out of the boat. :)

[omer-n]

well from the look of it theres a desire for you people to see more of the ark :)

flaming ben - right, he took his sons too, u r right too crowded, i was thinking simplifying the whole gang on the cliff .i'll just leave noah and some animals, no wife (she is cooking breakfast on the boat :) )

EdP-Art- thanks, hope i can get more clear, i guess concept stage isnt over....

anzibon- thanks for comment! i'm sorry u wasted so much time trying to understand "what the hell does this guy tells us...." glad u like the idea i really want this to be not too cliched so i'm putting alor of time into the concept stage, i was thinking of getting rid of everything the boat the monkey just leaving the girraf and noah cause i think alot of detil takes from the cleaness of the image wich i think is more powerful emotionally although i can see now it takes of the clarity of the story so i'll have to take ur advice. i should add some more monkeys and stuff iguess if i'm keeping the boat....


more updates later......

[omer-n]

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changed the ark comp, added some details, i like the giraff neck hair maybe thats what it looked like 5000 years ago

[anzibon]

i like what you're saying about not spoonfeeding people the story and making it like every other noah pic. i think you're well on your way. that said, i think the boat should be BIG. we would only see the bottom of it, right? i just wanted to be able to tell that it's boat and not rock.

it's lookin great, have fun
~B

PS - on my thread you asked me what software i use. on which piece did you mean? i tend to use whatever will get me where i'm going. and thanks for the visit.

[omer-n]

anzibon, i agree with you, i also think leaving something for the imagination of the viewer for him to makeup his own storyline is not just a good idea its kind of an essential thing inorder to really get the viewers attention and making the image interesting. i have enjoyed mostly visual art (in all its forms like films etc...) that left something for me to complete myself in my head
i dont think in this image theres alot to do with this- i can only try to make it a bit unusual for it to stand out.
making the ark huge so we see only the bottom is a great idea i'll work on that, Thanks.....

i can see by the different styles in your images that used different techniques and as u say different software. i think i meant the master and servant.

[EdP-Art]

Hi Omer-n
It's coming together nicely. The hairy giraffe is great. I adds a real flavour of caveman times. I would be great to see all the characters treated that way. It would give a unique feel to the piece. Keep it up, it's looking great.

[omer-n]

thanks dude, caveman look ,yeah thats the idea i guess, i'm fighting my way with the detailed clouds- first time i ever paint clouds
its not too easy - stahlberg's tutorial is the best one i could find until now -


i'll post an update soon

[anzibon]

hey man,

i was hoping for an update. i read on stahlberg's thread that you were getting some good cloud action from a tutorial of his. don't hold out on us man, post a link to that! i'm looking forward to another update to see what you've been up to.

my M&S was all photoshop. sinse then i've started using painter. i love it. i still use PS for comping elements together and color correction type stuff. but painter's the bomb with a wacom. (cool, that rhymes.) :buttrock:

sorry, i've been working a lot lately.
cheers,
~B

[jevinart]

really wonderful piece you've got going here.... my only thought would be -- where does the journey go? the edge of a cliff represents more of an end than a beginning, unless of course they're contemplating jumping off.... think you need some sort of vehicle or path to take them into the clouds to a place beyond.

[omer-n]

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after many hours of trials i got my version of the clouds

[omer-n]

ok so thats my first try of clouds , the colors arent like the concept so i'll have to work on it
i also think its too realistic, but maybe it'll work better with the whole image detailed.

i'll appreciate your honest mind about the clouds- cause its really hard for me to tell after staring at the painting for so long, well u know the issue....

anzibon- the tutorial is here http://www.androidblues.com/cloudtut.html
i used it but did my own version with jitter on the brush ,makes a difference

jevinart- thanks ! about the story its noah and the ark so the journey is more abstract, begining life again after the big storm i didnt think there should be a road, i still dont know what to do and if i'll add somthing i dont know where....:)

[omer-n]

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clouds clouds clouds........

[omer-n]

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trying a few color schemes tend towards the left

[authentic]

like the picture a lot but I think the rainbow break all your great ambiance

[EdP-Art]

I like the left one, if you get rid of the rainbow it will look like the first bit of sunlight after the rain. Maybe make the rainbow smaller. :p
The clouds are fine to my eye.

*Ed

[thepineman]

very good work you have overthere omer. the one on the right looks better. is this scene shows the part right after the flood? if that is the case if i were you i would add some water level on the very bottom; this would give the illusion that the water is starting to subside. i like the clouds - effect. do some studies with the angle of the rainbow to see which angle looks best.


perhaps add an olive tree on the mount where the characters are as its one of the strongest tree on earth that can withstand great flooding situation. I remember that it was an olive tree that gave the symbolism that the flood was over when the dove went back carrying an olive leaf. that will make your illustration a very powerful image. goodluck.

[omer-n]

authentic - thanks for commenting, the rainbow is just for the concept i'm going to change it
but i think its neccesary for the image storyline

EdP-Art - yeah i think i'll either makw it smaller or bigger so it will be mostly out of the frame and the horizon so it doesnt ruin the effect. you said the clouds are fine , i need them to be powerful and strong emotionally to emphasize the strength of nature do you get that feeling?

thepineman- thanks for the helpful comment , i will take your advice on the water i never tought of it , yeah its after the flood ,i'll have to concputalize it (water) to see if i can add them in a nice way. i'm glad you like the effect
do you get a feeling the clouds are powerful ?
about the rainbow i'm going to change it i'm saving it for last , also its funny you mention the olive tree because if you would have seen my work on the computer i just played with the concept and added some small trees , i intuitively gave them the olive tree look without realizing what i'm painting :). i guess i've seen it in biblical works in the past or something ..... but its a great idea thanks!

[Cyberone]

i think that the one on the right looks alot better too...
it hase some really nice colour and is much more plesent on the eye :)
i also like the right because ove the two battleing colours...the warm yellow vs the cooler blues :) make the painting interesting on more than a story level :)

[EdP-Art]

The clouds are powerful all right. The way they tower over Noah and co gets the feeling of power. You could try a few more on the right hand corner, it might help a bit more.

*Ed

[omer-n]

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new composition

[omer-n]

well finally i think i got what i wanted - a composition that works! the clouds are on the same side as the characters, plus the prespective is changed to get the right feel also changed contrast for more depth......................

cyberone - thank for the tips :) i think i'll play with the warm and cold in the new composition i hope u like the new change

EdP-Art - i think with the new comp the clouds feel even bigger , maybe i'll see about clouds on both sides... thanks man , tell me what you think now

well gotta go to bed (4 am here) got a bit carried away with this :eek: good night

[Elrond56]

very dreamy, great atmosphere, beautiful clouds and this is the stongest of all the compositions as far as the characters and mountain ledge . . . in my opinion. I do like the way you have the clouds spiraling out and beyond covering a portion of the ledge closer to the viewer in the earlier comps . . . and would love to see it continue to a vanishing point . . .
paint on *)

[omer-n]

Elrond56 Thanks for commenting on the image, i'm glad to see u like the atmosphere i am aiming for this kind of romantic look and feel . i didnt understand what u mean about the cloud spiraling out and beyond and about the vanishing point it should continue to , it sounds interesting ,maybe u can explain?

[omer-n]

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update

[omer-n]

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inspired by my cute cat


do u think this concept is better?

[rasamaya]

Im doing Noahs Ark too. I liked your Noah concept better. Im in 3D, and closer to the begining of Noahs 40 day journey, so I dont think the judges will have an originality issue. Yours looks really refreshing, thanks.

[omer-n]

hey rasamaya , thank for the comment. you know i think its good we have the same theme
we can exchange ideas. let me ask you how did you reasearch the subject, did you looked in other biblical illustrations of noahs ark? was it your first idea and how did you come up with it?

did you say you like the noahs ark better than the black cat theme? why?

:) omer

[walrus]

I really like the cat - very cute and a really strong silhouette! If it were just which looked better, I'd vote for kitty. But the earlier concepts fit the Journey theme more, this one I have trouble associating with na journey beginning. So, I guess I'm no help!
Good luck, pick something soon! :)

-mike

[EdP-Art]

Hi Omer, go with the Ark. It has a story and it's easily understood. The cat is cute but there's no story or journey there.

Which would you have in your house, a cute cat or a hairy giraffe? You know the hairy giraffe will win every time. :rolleyes:

I think the darker foreground is better than the green grass. It tells of the destruction they have just come from. The green grass says they are just out for a stroll a few years after the flood. Does that make sense?

Go for it.

*Ed

[rasamaya]

Hi, Your Noahs Ark theme feels more like a journey than the black cat, but thats personal interpreting. For me, Noah's Ark was not my first idea, if you find my thread, you can read the others I had; there where many. I did a lot of research. And I felt a little weird using Noah as the main character, considering how many versions of the great flood and giant boat are out there. But thats what first poped, so I went with it. I didnt find out about the other storys untill later. In my thread there are some reference links. I finished my entree so take a look... hit the yellow link below and then be sure to click the image to zoom areas.
Cheers

[DeeVad]

I browsed a lot of entry, and I was stopped happily by your image. It's cool to see some simplicity in this challenge where every one put too much things and details in there image. I encourage you to choose the concept of the cat !
good work :thumbsup:
-david

[omer-n]

man... time is running out i'll have to work hard to put this thing together in time

walrus - thanks, i'm having trouble to decide but i'll go with the ark , its more journey themed, i think i can find a spot for the cat in the foreground along with the girraf and the monkey :thumbsup:

EdP-Art - I thought about it and i'll take your advice on the ark choice and also i'll make the ground look dark with a broken treee or two to emphasize the destruction, thanks

rasamaya- thanks , i'll take a look at it, i'm going with the ark story

DeeVad- hey, thanks for the comment :) now i have a problem you say the cat theme is better but i think i'll go with the ark story i already have some ideas about the finished concept and i also think i'll ad the kitty along with more characters while trying to stay simple like you said.
i myself dont like too many details because i think it takes from the attention of the viewer and makes the image weaker unbless you can create good harmony which is difficult for a beginner like me

[omer-n]

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line art of the final version

[omer-n]

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coloring continued with the final version

[omer-n]

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final coloring

[omer-n]

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The biblical story of Noah's Ark begins with God observing man's evil behaviour and deciding to flood the earth and destroy all life. However, God found one good man, Noah, "a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time", and decided that he would carry forth the lineage of man. God told Noah to make an ark, and to bring with him his wife, and his sons Shem, Ham, and Japheth, and their wives. Additionally, he was to bring pairs of all living creatures, male and female, and in order to provide sustenance, he was told to bring and store food.

When Noah completed the Ark, he and his family and the animals entered, and "the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened, and the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights." The flood covered even the highest mountains to a depth of more than twenty feet, and all creatures on Earth died; only Noah and those with him on the Ark were left alive

Finally, after about 220 days, the Ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat, and the waters receded for another forty days until the mountaintops emerged. Then Noah sent out a raven which "went to and fro until the waters were dried up from the earth". Next, Noah sent a dove out, but it returned having found nowhere to land. After a further seven days, Noah again sent out the dove, and it returned with an olive leaf in its beak, and he knew that the waters had subsided. Noah waited seven days more and sent out the dove once more, and this time it did not return. Then he and his family and all the animals left the Ark, and Noah made a sacrifice to God, and God resolved that he would never again curse the Earth because of man, and never again would He destroy all life on it in this manner.

In order to remember this promise, God put a rainbow in the clouds, saying, “Whenever I bring clouds over the earth and the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and all living creatures of every kind on the earth."




this image represents a time when a journey begins - a journey of life once again after great destruction.

[EdP-Art]

Lovely pic Omer, it has turned out great. Noah on the branch with the animals is great. Well done.

It struck me that we could make a story with a number of pics from this challenge. Here's the bones of it...
A Soul gets drawn down into the physical worlds (see EdP-Art (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3580133) )
The Soul gets a physical body and is born (see BlackDidThis (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=351638&page=13&pp=15) )
It goes through many tasks and adventures (here's just a few suggestions MrFreeman (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=323086&page=14&pp=15)
- Omer-n (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=339627)
- Cyberone (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?threadid=323443)
- Stahlberg (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=328432&page=23&pp=15)
- Jeromoo (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=3570838#post3570838)
If you have more please suggest them to me.
And finally the Soul finds its way back to its home (see Beelow (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=322671&page=1&pp=15) )

Jerome might even put it to poetry :)


*Ed

[omer-n]

hey Ed, thanks , i really pulled it on the last minute i almost didnt make it but i think the result is good.
never really thought of it like you in adding images that make up a story but i guess when u have so many ideas probability is that u can add it up .........


good luck, cool idea u have there.....:thumbsup:

[SUS]

Hi Omer,

Beautiful work! I love the colors and the coposition is great! :wise:

Good luck! :thumbsup:

Rami

[omer-n]

thanks rami,


see you "under the tree ";)

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