The Gunslinger - 3dsmax & Zbrush

[carlw]

Looks like a fantastic start man....can't wait to see some updates.

[Doggie2k]

haha love the title


Looks like a good start

[vampeta]

I have detailed the head a little more, at the moment there are 4 SD levels in ZB.

Next move.... texturing :D

http://www.kira-network.com/gunslinger/step-03.jpg

[vampeta]

BUMP MAP! (wip)

http://kira-network.com/gunslinger/step-04.jpg

[MrJames]

Hey man looks good. If I were you maybe have a look at more referance for lips. They look a bit off. Also, maybe revise the way the ear joins the head, it seems like the lobe is connecting too early if you see what I mean?

[vampeta]

I made some small adjustments on the ear and the lips. Thanks 4 the hint MrJames ;)

http://kira-network.com/gunslinger/step-05.jpg

[vampeta]

Some more details on the head and the bump-map

http://www.kira-network.com/gunslinger/step-06.gifhttp://www.kira-network.com/gunslinger/step-07.jpg

[vampeta]

I was been thinking about the scene... how to place the character, the environment, the light etc... Here is a quick sketch.

http://kira-network.com/gunslinger/step-08.jpg

[vampeta]

Well no critique in here :eek: than i can continue ;) :)

Here is the Skin-Difuse map... complete painted in ZB

http://www.kira-network.com/gunslinger/step-09.jpg

[vampeta]

A first test with Mental Ray & SSS fast skin shader.

This is my very first tryout with this shader, but i like how the result looks. There are some problems with the eyes and some small textured areas, also the lips looks a bit distorted... but i have the feeling i´m on the right way.

Have fun!

(pleeeeeeeeease give me some feedback:cry: :cry: :cry: )

http://www.kira-network.com/gunslinger/step-10.jpg

[vampeta]

Yep... another update, don´t be scared... i will keep updating until someone will comment something .... something.... :scream: ;)

Testing with displacement:

http://www.kira-network.com/gunslinger/step-11.jpg

Cheers :beer: Alex

[YankeesFanHB]

Great job. I've been following the Dark Tower thread, and being a SK superfan, I appreciate the work put in and the result is fantastic. As for the Gunslinger, I think Roland could use with some more forehead wrinkles; the wrinkles at the tip of the nose don't belong, though.
I hope you add some longer hair for the head - more Roland-like, I think.
Great work 'grizzling' him up; he reminds me of a slightly-younger beat-up Roy Schieder (Jaws).
Keep it up, great thread and work.

[Pollo]

Good job so far. Small critique is that some of the wrinkles don't much up. Parts of his face look younger and others look older. Also, the wrinkles themselves are in places where the face just doesn't crease :) Good job though overall ;)

[MrJames]

Hi man, nice to see the piece coming along. The lips still need a little work in my opinion, you need more of a contour in the bottom lip for a start. They look very flat on the face, where in reality they should protrude a bit more. The bottom lip has a bit ore of an over hang before it goes in and meets the chin. Hopefully you can see what I mean, if not, just ask and I'll draw a diagram ...

Keep the updates rolling ;)

[DaveWortley]

i find the colours of your renders quite odd, are you using a TFT? check your colour profiles,

[vampeta]

Great job. I've been following the Dark Tower thread, and being a SK superfan, I appreciate the work put in and the result is fantastic. As for the Gunslinger, I think Roland could use with some more forehead wrinkles; the wrinkles at the tip of the nose don't belong, though.
I hope you add some longer hair for the head - more Roland-like, I think.
Great work 'grizzling' him up; he reminds me of a slightly-younger beat-up Roy Schieder (Jaws).
Keep it up, great thread and work.

Hi & thanks 4 your feedback
At the moment i´m doing only test renderings to figure out what kind of possibulitys i have. I agree with the wrinkels and of course he will have longer hair ;) i hought on a mix between Clint Eastwood & Terence Hill...

http://spaghettiwesterns.1g.fi/actors/terence/Terence_Hill.jpg

http://hoover.archives.gov/exhibits/HollywoodCowboys/leading%20men/EASTWOOD.jpg

[vampeta]

i find the colours of your renders quite odd, are you using a TFT? check your colour profiles,

Yep i´m working on a TFT. I agree they are all a bit dark ;)

[vampeta]

Hi man, nice to see the piece coming along. The lips still need a little work in my opinion, you need more of a contour in the bottom lip for a start. They look very flat on the face, where in reality they should protrude a bit more. The bottom lip has a bit ore of an over hang before it goes in and meets the chin. Hopefully you can see what I mean, if not, just ask and I'll draw a diagram ...

Keep the updates rolling ;)


Thank you, nice hint!
I think i know what you mean, let´s see if can refine this ;) and by the way the whole face looks at the moment a bit blown up because my displacement map for the hair has an overeal brighter gray as background, (i just figured that out this morning :eek:)
I had also a look on your Portfolio... REALY NICE WORK! :thumbsup:

[vampeta]

Good job so far. Small critique is that some of the wrinkles don't much up. Parts of his face look younger and others look older. Also, the wrinkles themselves are in places where the face just doesn't crease :) Good job though overall ;)

Thank you!
I´m still working on the face and i agree with you. In the end i want a face with very oversubscribed contours... maybe a bit like an altered cartoon charactar with a realistic touch.

[vampeta]

Working on the skin.. and a some changes on the eyes

http://kira-network.com/gunslinger/step-13.jpg

[markovicd]

very nice vampeta modeling is brilliant! now bring that textures to that lvl!

[MrJames]

Hi :D

Just a few things that I spotted....

Looks cool though, I just had a bit of free time and wanted to use Photoshop ;)

[vampeta]

Hi :D

Just a few things that I spotted....

Looks cool though, I just had a bit of free time and wanted to use Photoshop ;)

Hey thanks a lot... that´s realy very helpfull :bounce: :D

I hadn´t much time yesterday but i fixed a few things.
I also discovered a bigger problem with the lips. My lowpoly model had only polygons up to the inner edge, whish is not going enough into the inner mouth. I would like to ad a slice on the inner polygon ring but i don´t know how. I can do it in 3dsmax but i would lose my ZB modifications because of a different Polygon-count.
Well... i thing this Character will have a closed mouth ;) (or i found a better solution... any Ideas? )

Thank you again!
Alex

http://kira-network.com/gunslinger/step-14.jpg

[vampeta]

Just testing if the colors work in a real environment.
At the Moment he looks a bit insane :D (kill all humans... kill all humans.. :D hi hi hi )

http://kira-network.com/gunslinger/step-15.gif

[vampeta]

A little finetuning on the lips ;) and on the skin.

:beer: Alex

http://www.kira-network.com/gunslinger/step-16.jpg

[beelow]

Looking much better Preuss!:thumbsup:

I think the wrinkles are a bit much on the neck and the nose and maybe in the cheek area, but I know on the neck and the nose. I think that u want to get the wrinkles in the neck to go horizontally, but don't take my word for it though, coming along smoothly though, keep it up, good luck with this model!:thumbsup:

[Teyon]

He looks to be smiling a bit. I was under the impression Roland hardly ever smiled. :) Something to do with the corners of the mouth and the look in the eyes.

[vampeta]

Just some different views of the head.

Thanks 4 your feedback :beer: Alex

http://www.kira-network.com/gunslinger/step-20.jpg

[vampeta]

Hi Folks,

hmm.. not much traffic in here ;) let´s see if can change this :D

Here is a quick and dirty conzept sketch how i´m going to realice the scene.
(a bit inspiered by some italic-western-movie covers)

Have fun
alex

http://www.kira-network.com/gunslinger/step-21b.jpg

[vampeta]

Gunslinger outfit - Leathercoat & Poncho

http://www.kira-network.com/gunslinger/step-22.jpg

[vampeta]

Cloth modeling test - LEATHERCOAT

some test´s with ZB

Have fun :beer: Alex

http://www.kira-network.com/gunslinger/step-23.jpg

[MrJames]

Looks good m8 :D Hard to crit the clothes until i see the head and body with it, but looks cool anyway. Keep Updating!

[vampeta]

Some few fixes on his on his face ond now some coth on his neck.

Stay tuned Alexhttp://www.kira-network.com/gunslinger/step-24.jpg

[Tris3d]

Hey! Its getting there now! I'm a great fan of your work and the level of detail you put into things is gobsmacking! I still think there needs to be more attention to the eyes ( not sure how far you are with this ) I think if you have photorealistic eyes you can get away with some of the other not so detailed bits in a model ( i'm talking in general here ) Also i think he looks just a tad to bumpy. Almost looks like hes got some walts going on there! Not pretty :argh: Hehe. Keep it up though.

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