Open Figure Drawing Workshop - Caravaggio Master Copy / Reference - with Rebeccak 015

[LoTekK]

I think I'm in this time round. :p

[daWinky]

Good morning everyone!

Good to see that the next OFDW is online now, some interesting references, Becca...this seems to be an opportunity for me to practise some cloth painting;) , the choice is not easy this time...

-sabrina

[Rebeccak]

Teck,

You think, therefore you are! :D

Heya Sabie!

I've just seen the link to your OFDW piece in the Gallery, that's fantastic! :bounce: Can't wait to see your beautiful contribution here! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[depleteD]

I'm glad u combined the refrence intho this, i dont think that ill have time to do the master copys. But man those masters are awesome.

[Elliepower]

Hi Rebeccak,

I am new here, but watching for some time the beautyful pictures. But now it is time to start something big, I think for me this is perhaps too big. But how do we say in Germany: Take a jump into fresh water. :)

I don't know what is the right way to start, so I tried this. Also I don't know much about painting, but a few things I recognized: not to pick colors from the original, do not trace, forget lines and never give up if you failed.

cu,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/cgtalkwip01.jpg

[Amerasu]

Wow, big huge paintings! I think I'll attempt The Entombment. I learned an awful lot about skintones doing the Bouguereau and think I could learn much about lighting from this one. I really struggle with that.

Speaking of Bouguereau, I think he's become my new favourite. I've been closely studying all of this paintings at Art Renewal and am often stunned at his skill. Beautiful work so thanks for the intro Rebecca! I'd never heard of him before 012 :)

[aggie93]

Hey everyone. I think I will have to step out on this one. I have to get serious about studying for my exam at the end of April. I will do the next one. I will watch yall though! Good luck everyone!

[DigitalSol]

From long long time I had been here at CG talk, and I haven't post anything yet because I didn't have enough level for compete with u talented guys and gals, this will be my first try, even if this is a hard challege, have fun everyone

[Rebeccak]

depleteD,

No worries, hoping you'll participate with the characterdesign reference! :thumbsup:

Elliepower,

Welcome aboard! :) Great to see the start of your piece, it looks like you have a strong beginning here! It's great that you're mapping out all of the base colors, I just recommending putting down your darks first and building up the lights. Good luck, looking forward to your progress! :)

Amerasu,

Great to see you on board for this one, and can't wait to see what you do! :) Bouguereau was not unknown to me before, but I confess that I didn't really look at his work much until I heard his name mentioned a lot on the forums. I'm really glad I gave his work a new look! :)

aggie93,

We'll look forward to your participation as a cheerleader! :)

Digital Sol,

Just do the best you can, that's what we're all here for! ;)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Elliepower]

Hi,

try to do my best. I think the characters in my version will never look like in the original. Boooh. And so much to do... can I only put a peanut on the table instead of those many food? :D

LG,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/cgtalkwip02.jpg

[DigitalSol]

ElliePower's is looking great!!, why I can't begging with the paint like all u do? I don't know, but for me all is ezest with a lineart

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/WIP1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/WIP2.jpg

I'm at work right now, so, I work in this from time to time, I hope somebody could give me an opinion, thanks.

[Rebeccak]

Elliepower,

Great update! :) The things to watch are the foreground left figure ~ his figure / head should be quite a bit larger I think since he is in the foreground. Really nice work with the central figure and the figure on the right! :thumbsup:

Digital Sol,

Nothing wrong with starting with linework! The 'old masters' certainly started with well~planned drawings before ever tackling paint. :) In fact, there is a saying which you may know which goes, 'Drawing IS Painting'. Looking forward to your next update! :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[LoTekK]

Elliepower: Holy crap that was quick! :eek:
Digital Sol: Everyone has their own way of working, so don't worry at all about laying down the foundations through linework. Besides, your lines are looking solid. :thumbsup:

[Zephyri]

Oh man! You had to launch the caravaggio one just as I figure out there's another challenge running that I've missed a month on already. And not only that, you put Hong Ly's references of guy with gun, probably my next biggest weakness after big red monsters... aye aye aye... I need a clone, darn it. Will do my utmost to join in this time!

[Elliepower]

Hi Rebeccak,

thx, I can't see anything for today anymore. And my hand is aching.

@ Digital Sol

A friend told me not to take lines, though it is a possibility to start painting. For me it is a very bad way, cause I nearly totally ignore shadow and light so the result ist very flatten and it looks horrible. Other people don't have any problems with it.

Your lineart is very fine, I like it a lot. And don't be afraid to make mistakes, for me the beginning is quiet simple... but then I often struggle and give up. Some problems to be patient... hmpf.

Bye,
Ellie

[Jack Shannon]

This looks good fun, I think I will try the Supper at Emmaus one.

Great work everyone!

[Rebeccak]

Zepyhri,

We'd love to have you! Break out the cloning machine! :thumbsup:

Elliepower,

Absolutely no worries. ;) This Workshop will run for approximately 4 weeks, so you have plenty of time. :)

Jack Shannon,

That's great that you will be participating! Looking forward to seeing your work. :)

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[DigitalSol]

Hello everyone, thanks for the support, and the crits, that means lots to me since they came from such talented people like u all, I use the lineart as base for all my paintings, here is the linework for this.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/La-cena-de-Emmaus2.jpg

This is the result after sketching 5 times, and clean it up at Photoshop, I think will work an underpainting after this.

I hope u comment any crit is good for me, thanks

[Rebeccak]

Digital Sol,

Lovely linework on this! I really look forward to seeing the start of your painting! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Rebeccak]

A rough beginning:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_01.jpg

[Elliepower]

Hi,

@Digital Sol I don't know why you worry, it looks very good.

@ Rebeccak *ohhhhmmm*

A little working on the background and cleaning the table. Hehe, the peanut is just a placeholder. The face of the man in the front is a bit bigger now. I hope the propotioons are right, caus it always looks funny if for example a cup is too small or thin.

And I recognized that there is no green in the Original, but I found another version that I like much more.

Greets,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/cgtalkwip03.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Elliepower,

This is looking really good! I think the rendering of the face of the rightmost character in particular is coming along beautifully! :wip: You might want to saturate or deepen your colors just a bit more...I think if you start to bring everything up to the level of the character on the right, you will be in top shape! :cool:

Great work so far, can't wait to see your further progress! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[DigitalSol]

Heya, I always beggin with an underpainting, almost for all, it gives me a general look for all the scene, I'm using 2 layers one for the background and other for the foreground (the characters), this is a rough version and still want to leave the details untill the end

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/La-cena-de-Emmausunder.jpg

Elliepower, thanks for your opinion, your characters looks great, your color palette is fantastic, Im not that good applying the colors directly, I love your scene's mood.

PS that green athmosphere looks terrific, I like it very much.

Rebeccak, thats an stunning beggining, it gives me much the impression of deep. I like it very much.

Thanks to everyone.

[Rebeccak]

Digital Sol,

Great progress, it looks like you're very nicely methodical about your approach! :thumbsup: It's great to see so much good work already...looking forward to seeing more work from everyone! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[DigitalSol]

Hello everyone, I could get some time for work on the piece, here is the 3rd figure

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/La-cena-de-Emmaus3.jpg

I hope u can give me an opinion about the painting, thanks

[Rebeccak]

Digital Sol,

I think this will start looking great when you really start to push the value / dark / light relationships, and begin adding lighter highlights and experimenting with hard / soft edges. Looking great so far! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[DigitalSol]

Sorry, I didn't understand at all, ur hint Rebecca, my english is not good enough, what do u mean?

you really start to push the value / dark / light relationships
~Rebeccak

More contrast?,I really aprecciate ur critics and coments, I would like u clear it up for me please.

[Rebeccak]

Originally posted by Digital Sol: More contrast?
Yep! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[aggie93]

Wow there are a lot of new faces to this OFDW and everyone seems to be pluggin along quite nicely. Ok rebecca, here we go...


Rah Rah Rah!:beer:

From... if your from Aggieland... your YELL LEADER! :thumbsup:

[DigitalSol]

Yep! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak


Ah, got it, thanks :thumbsup:

[DigitalSol]

This is the last for the day, I'm about to finish the first of the 3 pass for the underpainting, In the next step I will try to put emphasis, on the contrast,

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/La-cena-de-Emmausunder2.jpg

any critic is welcome

[Rebeccak]

Great progress so far! :thumbsup: I need to catch up with you! :D

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[DigitalSol]

Thanks a lot Rebecca, glad to hear it, What means catch up with me?, sorry, bad english, u know...


Great progress so far! :thumbsup: I need to catch up with you! :D

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Rebeccak]

Digital Sol,

I just mean that I have a lot of work to do. ;)

Update :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_02.jpg

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Rebeccak]

About as far as I got tonight...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_03.jpg

[daWinky]

Good morning everyone!


:surprised Work with the speed of lightning, Becca, Elliepower and Digital Sol ...and really good too:thumbsup: !
I should begin with something, otherwise you're finished before I start:D .
Hopefully I find some time this evening...

-sabrina

[Elliepower]

Good Morning,

@Digital Sol
I do not see where there is any problem for you. It looks fantastic to me. Go on... hehooo :)!

@da Winky
Don't panic, I start fast and furious but there'll be a point of "time is running through my hands", rofl... actually I put the 3 layers together, funny mistake cause I forgot to save the pic before.

@Rebeccak
I like the way you construct the figures a lot. For me there is the problem (or fear) that the picture would be too blurry. How do you manage this?

It is an exciting adventure to see the different ways you all start and how the proceedure goes on.

*smile*
Ellie

[Jack Shannon]

Wow really nice work guys, fast progress.

My attempt, just blocking stuff in, trying to get things in right places.
Rebecca how do you get your work so shiny?

http://www.exoload.com/uploads/306/1143646614.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Sabie,
Hey there, can't wait to have you join in! :bounce:

Elliepower,

Heh, thanks! :) I think I'm the only person who likes blur in a picture :D but I just personally don't like too much sharpness...I seem to be in the minority, but it's just the way I am. :) If you use a smaller brush size set to a low opacity and flow, you can still manage to get sharp edges. And I alternate quite a bit between varying brush softness / hardness using the Shift + [ and Shift + ] shortcuts, where Shift + [ makes the brush softer, and Shift + ] makes the brush harder.

Jack,

Great to see your start here! :thumbsup: Shiny? Lol. :) I think the painting has a somewhat shimmering appearance mainly due to the value relationships. Once you start to blend, and tweak value relationships in a subtle way, it becomes almost a process of working with 2D clay ~ sort of pushing forms back with darker values, and bringing forms forward with lighter values. It's also key to use alternately softer and harder edges (though I'm obviously partial to softer edges) :D, the manipulation of edges is a big factor in determining what stands out to the viewer, and what recedes. Hope this makes sense. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[DigitalSol]

Good morning everyone, this some of my progress.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/La-cena-de-Emmaus1.jpg

The table is set.

Ellipower, many thanks, glad to hear that it likes u.
Rebecca, great work , cant wait to see what's next.

Thanks

[Elliepower]

Hi,

now, here is my next step. It begins to get boring... and I loose some of my patience.

Hmpf. This Reference is really a big one. The Original is about 3 m wide? Horrible job!

:D

LG,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/cgtalkwip04.jpg

[DigitalSol]

That's looking great Elliepower, I think your version's color palette is great, even if not is the copy from caravaggio's, now that I'm about paint the meals at the table Im getting bored too, but great work for u :thumbsup:

[mindofka]

You're making awesome paintings, love to see the progresses :)
So sorry i couldn't finish the last one, and I don't think I'll have the time also for this.
So sorry, because the ole murderer is my favourite painter.
Keep it up . everyone, you're making masterpieces on a masterpiece! :D

[Kalorlo]

I thought I'd join in too :)

If I was starting again, I think I'd do this slightly differently. I'm using a grid on both images and eyeballing to try and get things in the right proportions, using only vaguely the right colours. Next step will be switching the grids off and working more on the figures as wholes.

http://www.kellyhouse.force9.co.uk/art/master/supper01.jpg

[Jack Shannon]

Update......
http://www.exoload.info/uploads/306/1143650940.jpg

[DigitalSol]

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/La-cena-de-Emmaus03.jpg

Almost done with the sketch part

[Zapan]

Hi all !!Just dropping by for some cheering here !!

Some stunning starts everyone , you guys insanely fast and great ! wow , can't wait to see how all your work is going to turn into !!

@ Sabie : go ... go ... go , go , go !!! otherwise challenge entry ... in 2 months :D

@ Beckie : w00t !! ... lovely start :love: ... Beckie rules !! :scream:

cheers everyone ,

-Zapan

[Jack Shannon]

Digital Sol, coming along really nicely mate, :thumbsup:

Zapan, Join! :applause:

Last Update tonight.

http://www.exoload.info/uploads/306/1143657784.png

[Elliepower]

Hi,

I'm going crazy about this work. The dreadlocks of the, I think it is a man, isn't it? *smile* They are hard to paint. And I have got a problem with the background, it is too *word lost* pixel-like :D.

I never learned drawing, only at school (25 yrs. ago) and as a hobby... if I make some mistakes, please tell me.

It is great to see other people entering the workshop and it is really an adventure for me to be here.

LG,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/cgtalkwip05.jpg

[DigitalSol]

Thanks a lot Jack, I like very much your progress, I can't explain to myself how u can see through that paint stains :shrug: Its wonderful, even more, how u can smooth those, what tool u use, blur? or just the paintbrush.

Stunning start for u.

[Rebeccak]

Elliepower,

Great progress on this, and very fast! :) Watch the left arm of the central figure (the big J) ~ it looks a tad small, but this is an easy fix in PS. :) Also I think heightening the contrast will really give this picture pop! Looking forward to your next update! :)

mindofka,

Great to see you here, even if only for cheering! It's always great to see so many people interested in these Workshops! :) Feel free to hop on board if you get the chance.

Kalorlo,

Great to see you here! :) Great base coat, I look forward to seeing how this develops!

Jack,

Wow, looking great! I'm really excited to see your work on the boards!

Digital Sol,

This is looking fantastic ~ I love the foreground figure, there's a real sense of his presence. Nice work so far!

Steph,

It's great to see you here!! Thanks for chearing, you're always welcome!!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Rebeccak]

Of use to some people here might be the following thread, which is an informal Workshop run here on the Anatomy Forum:

Color Theory and The Human Figure - NUDITY (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=2965469#post2965469)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=2965469#post2965469 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=273525&page=2&pp=15)

Specifically of interest there:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Color%20and%20the%20Figure/color-demo.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Color%20and%20the%20Figure/color-demo-3.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Color%20and%20the%20Figure/color-demo-4.jpg

the following image is from: http://www.worqx.com/color/images/shade-tint-wheel.jpg
see full article: http://www.worqx.com/color/shade_tint.htm

http://www.worqx.com/color/images/shade-tint-wheel.jpg

In this diagram from the above source, tints are toward the center, and shades toward the outer rings of the color wheel.


According to this article: http://www.worqx.com/color/color_basics.htm

hue = what we think of as 'color'. 'Color' is actually defined by a bunch of different properties as described here.

tint = a hue produced by adding white.
shade = a hue produced by adding black.
intensity = the brightness or dullness of a hue. One may lower the intensity by adding white or black.

value = A measure of the amount of light reflected from a hue. Those hues with a high content of white have a higher luminance or value.

For those of you working in Photoshop, it's often useful to use the HSB (Hue, Saturation, Brightness) pallette, which allows you to adust the individual color properties of Hue, Saturation, Brightness manually:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/HSB-Sliders.jpg


Hope this is useful! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[DigitalSol]

Thanks that looks very interesting.

I have seen this question at the forums before, but I want to ask u, how u detail a paint?, I mean, you have some paint stains, like in Rebecca or Jack's artwork, and then...? u use the blur tool? the smudge? or just keep on painting with hard and soft brushes, please maybe it's an obvious question but I will be thankful if you can explainme a little more, I have my own technique but I think is not good enough.

Thanks

:)

[Jack Shannon]

Ellie, I really enjoyed that closeup, stunning progress.

Digital sol, thanks, well, i haven't tried to use smudge tools. Just paint brush but I tried what Rebecca said and used a combination of soft and hard egde round brushes, works wonders.

[Rebeccak]

Digital Sol,

I rarely if ever use the smudge tool, I basically use a combination of soft and hard brushes, and after I establish a 'stain' or area of more or less flat color / or more often in my case, value, with a somewhat harder brush, I'll go in with a softer brush and a sligthtly lighter value to gently brush in highlights.

The key is to work from dark to light, and from large areas to small areas. You can color pick from your painting easily when in brush mode by alt + clicking your canvas, which temporarily turns your brush into the eyedropper tool. Once the color has been selected, I may select a slightly brighter value or hue from the color pallette or from my swatches, and continue to refine an area, alternating between dark and light tones to build a sense of form.

Hope this helps. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Jack Shannon]

Thanks that looks very interesting.

I have seen this question at the forums before, but I want to ask u, how u detail a paint?, I mean, you have some paint stains, like in Rebecca or Jack's artwork, and then...? u use the blur tool? the smudge? or just keep on painting with hard and soft brushes, please maybe it's an obvious question but I will be thankful if you can explainme a little more, I have my own technique but I think is not good enough.

Thanks

:)

Well personally I find the smugde and blur tools are a little clumsy, and i just use the paint tool and press ALT very often to pick colours and blend that way, but some people i know use the smugde tool, just try and experiment and see what you find more comfortable.

edit: opps rebecca got there first :)

Oh and also, you reffer to those 'paint stains' well they dont actually look like that in photoshop but once saved the quality gets reduced dramaticly and the once soft gradients turn into stainy looking things
i have tryed saving at highest quality jpg and png but i cannot prevent the quality loss :sad:

[DigitalSol]

Rebecca, Jack:

Thanks both, I will try that way, I usually paint with hard edged brushes I like the texture that they gives, I almost dont make them smooth, but when I want do it, I make layers of transparencies and the I use the smudge, since they are close values they are easy to merge, but I think that the brushes will give me more accuarancy.

Jack:

The paint looks really well, I call them stains because when u make a sketch in oil directly with paint, I know that technique as the paint stained, the quality loss is the same for me.

[Rebeccak]

Originally posted by Digital Sol: I call them stains because when u make a sketch in oil directly with paint, I know that technique as the paint stained, the quality loss is the same for me.
Heh, I use traditional analogies too, I tend to call them 'washes'. :D

Originally posted by Jack: edit: opps rebecca got there first :)
LOL :D

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[EAD]

Nice work folks. Thought i'd make a little contribution to this thread >>> 2hour sketch Photoshop>

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/9861/cara18hj.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Nice sketch, AOAH! :thumbsup: Any plans to work on this further? :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Jack Shannon]

Wow Andrew thats hot! Its got such a nice feeling to it, I do hope you keep going.

:thumbsup:

~Jack

[LoTekK]

Right, decided since I did a Caravaggio on my own (still working on it, I'll be bringing it into PS since I have much better control over the brushes), I'll do the photorefs for this OFDW. I'll probably have some fun with them, too. :)

http://www.lotekk.com/files/ofdw15-1.jpg

Not sure how long. Not much, I think, just spread out in little spurts (damn you IRC and your distracting ways :D).

Andyonahill: Sweet! Love the colors you're pulling off. :thumbsup:

Ellipower: Awesome, you're making some great progress. :)

Jack Shannon: Nice values! :)

[EAD]

Thanks guys..:thumbsup: I may well do a few more character/ hand studies as I learnt a lot from doing this one but I cant see me having the time nor the patience to try and pull of a full copy though. Good luck to those of you who are attempting it, hope it doesn't drive you all mad.

With regards to the colour theory bit. I find it very useful to use the eyedropper to analyze the way the artist employs colour before beginning to paint, The Carravagio is a great example of a painter changing the hue between the highlights and the shadows from warm to cool, the shadows are invariably more towards the purple end of the spectrum and the highlights more orange. this tends to make the image more 3D and visually arresting. However I would tend to refrain from using the eyedropper whilst painting as it takes some of the judgement away from the artist and it's important to learn to see the different colours for yourself..... Something I am attempting to improve at the moment.

Cheers:)

[Rebeccak]

Teck,

Great to see your start! You've got 4 weeks. It will be good to see what you can do with this in that time! :)

Heya AOAH,

Good to hear your thoughts. :) With respect to the eyedropper, I hope you don't think I was encouraging folks to sample from the original painting! :) I recommend sampling from areas of one's own painting, not the reference. You're right, the artist should learn to judge for her or himself which colors to pick and why. It's part of being an artist, after all. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Rebeccak]

Slight update, working on the left figure next... :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_04.jpg

[EAD]

RK> I didnt think you were suggesting that:thumbsup:

I do however think that periodically using photoshop to sample the masters use of colour to tell you what colour is used where can be a valuable learning resource and can speed up the learning process and provide a doorway into the artists technique. Trying to emulate colour all by eye can be a total nightmare due to the complexity of optical illusion.

Did I just contradict myself there? probably.. Basically I think the eyedropper can be an invaluable analysis/research tool to provide insight into how colour operates in an image.

[Rebeccak]

AOAH,

Ha, I have a similar feeling about tracing. :) I think that tracing reproductions of Master Drawings / Paintings / Sculptures can be an excellent tool for learning and getting the feel of how and what the old masters were doing in their art. However, for me, such tracing is only ever an exercise, and should never be used in a finished piece of one's own art. There is tons of art that comes through the validation queue each day for the Gallery, and it's immediately obvious what work has been traced from Reference. But I actually would encourage people to do tracings to get a sense of what the Masters did as an Exercise only.

Cheers, :)

~Rk

[DigitalSol]

Im just bringing up the details, my first victim is the guy at Jesus' right, hope u like it

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/close-up.jpg

Im using Smudge tool because im getting mad by blending with the paint brush, sorry but I tried, and I couldn't :cry:

[Rebeccak]

Digital Sol,

This is looking really good! :)

Here are the brush settings I typically use ~ I don't know whether or not it will help, but I pretty much stick with this:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/brush-settings.jpg

One thing which I think will help is if you get some darker darks, and lighter lights into the appropriate parts of the painting. For example, the shaded eye socket will be a lot darker value wise than it is currently. More contrast = more form, but you don't want to overwhiten or overdarken. Keep working, you're doing an excellent job! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[DigitalSol]

Thanks a lot Rebecca, I will try to get darken some areas, I think that that is because I work inverse to you, I mean, u work from the dark to light, and I work shading the light, I will try your way on next paint, many thanks for the hints, I promess I will try to contrast more.

Thanks

[Rebeccak]

Digital Sol,

No problem! :) By the way, I'm far from infallible, so feel more than free to crit my work as well. I've learned tons from these OFDWs and watching the amazing work here...so please feel free to give me comments and criticism as well. :)

Small update:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_05.jpg

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Rebeccak]

Another thing that I find useful is to paint really zoomed out ~ this helps me to see value relationships and major relationships of the biggest masses. I can more easily see mistakes at this level. As you can see, my painting is zoomed out so that it's shown at 6.25% of it's real size.

Seen at this level, I can already pick out areas that need a lot of fixing. :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-setup.jpg


Traditional artists and illustrators had to use optical devices to get a far away look at their work when standing relatively nearby. Luckily, when working digitally, no such clunky devices are required. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[itsGuido]

Hey guys, I've been putting off starting one of these for a while! so im stoked to have begun! wohoo me. Bit over an hour so far i think... just been blocking in main shapes and colours and refining. Im not skillz enough to be doing underpaintings :).
Thanks for looking and hello to everyone!! Guido

http://www.itsguido.com/images/2d/workshop/01.jpg
http://www.itsguido.com/images/2d/workshop/02.jpghttp://www.itsguido.com/images/2d/workshop/03.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Heya Guido!

Welcome aboard! :) I just watched your short film, 'Cat and a Nude Man', awesome, that was hilarious! :thumbsup: I'm not an animation judge, but your short definitely had me laughing. :) Great 2D work on your site as well! Looking forward to seeing how you develop your piece. :)

Update for me...I fiddled a bit with the size and positions of the figures' heads, the big J's head was too small and narrow, and the head of the character to the left was too small. I think it's a bit better now:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_07.jpg

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Samanthie]

Hi, I hope to try one of the masters but for now..here is my endeavor. It's a little rough.:)

[Rebeccak]

Great to see you here again, Samanthie! :thumbsup: Nice start on this ~ quite an interesting change in style. :)

Detailing the faces now: :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_08_detail-1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_08_detail-2.jpg

[ceresz]

Sweet, Rebecca, and, like I told you I will join this :D
And... since I don't have acces to my tablet right now, I will do some traditional studies hehe :D
~Kevin

[Maladie]

YES YES YES, Caravaggio!! I've been thinking about going to the great Rembrandt-Caravaggio expo in Amsterdam next week, and now I definately will! Anyways, count me in:wip:.

[Rebeccak]

Heya Kevin,

Sounds good! :)

Maladie,

Looking forward to seeing your work! Have fun at the exhibition. I've heard it's great! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Maladie]

A quick value study, made in somewhat under an hour. I will try and use this OFDW to work on my current study areas, gesture and values. I will make a sketchlike gesture-study next.

Here goes:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/rava1981/Caravaggio/valuestudy.jpg

[DigitalSol]

Rebecca, I thinks your work on Jesus face is great, the other on the left, still needs a little bit more of work, over all a great work, keep on going.

Guido: great work, it seems that all of us are trapped on Emmaus, good to see the other option, and with such great technique.

Update, I had been work on the details, for now only on the left character, and even he is not finished, here are some pics

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/general-detalles.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/acercamiento.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/bigcloseup.jpg

Maybe I will not post much today because I have lots of work in the real life. :cry:
I hope u like it, and give an opinion, because I feel that it helps for improve, thanks

[Rebeccak]

Maladie,

Great to see you tackle this head on, I can't wait to see your progress! :)

Digital Sol,

Thanks for your comments! I agree, I need to really refine the leftmost character's face. Hopefully I can do that tonight. :)

I love the detailing you've done on the leftmost character in your painting ~ beautiful work on the cloth, it looks like you really enjoyed painting that. :) The greater contrast is really working well to make the character 'kick'.

By the way, I notice that you don't have a CGPortfolio ~ you (and everyone) should definitely create one if you get the chance! :)

Introducing the CGPortfolio (http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=3475)
http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=3475

Any CGTalk member can make one. I love the feature personally, it's the coolest thing CGTalk has going on right now! :)

Anyway, great to see your update!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[DigitalSol]

Thanks Rebecca, I really enjoy on painting this piece, Caravaggio, is my most admired old master, :love: and the Supper at Emmaus, one of his most beautiful masterpieces (IMHO).

Im a noob on CG talk, thats why I have not a PORTOFILIO here, I didn't know how to do it, thanks to you I will. :thumbsup:

Thanks again.

[Rebeccak]

Digital Sol,

You're welcome! Looking forward to seeing your CGPortfolio. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Elliepower]

Hello,

@Digital Sol & Rebeccak

fantastic work. And the details... respect!

Hmmm, I think I will stop here and go back to try some other technics to paint. Perhaps with a cut-out of the other pic. This is too much for me and my patience and I began to botch :( Made some color correction and work out a bit the dreadlocks *lol* of the Jesus.

Sorry for that.

LG,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/cgtalkwip06.jpg

[Zapan]

My god !! is it a 3 days OFDW ?

You guys are all moving so fast and so great !! ... are you trying to get a record in here ?

@ Rebecca : what kind of korean juice are you on, Beckie ? :D wow ...

Incredible progress everyone !

cheers ,

-Zapan

[itsGuido]

thanx for the warm welcome and nice comments Rebecca :)
glad you enjoyed the animation, its there to entertain haha

Maladie wohoo someone with my painting! good job the tonal study will help me a lot too thnx!
Digital Sol awesome, thanks! its great to get amongst it
Sorry not much to crit at the mo having to rush this morning, but everyones is looking great
bbs

[LoTekK]

What the hell... Everyone's moving so damned quickly! :argh:

Pretty slack today, so very minor update:

http://www.lotekk.com/files/ofdw15-2.jpg

[Jack Shannon]

I'm really not pleased with this at all, Thinking of starting all over or doing the other image, I know I shouldn't but I've gone so badly wrong I might as well start over. I've learnt a lot painting this and I think next time i will have a clear vision of what i need to do and when, because this time i really did not have a clue what I was doing.

This is 100% zoomed. I seem to be painting smaller than other people, does it matter?

Edit: Rebecca, I'm considering buying a CGS membership, what kind of things are in the private forums? Tutorials?
Also I would love to make a tutorial, I dont know if I am good enough though.

http://www.exoload.com/uploads/306/1143755956.png

[Rebeccak]

Elliepower,

Looks great! Keep going with this, you're doing a fantastic job! :)

Hiya Zapan! Thanks for chearing! Gogo Korean juice! :D

Teck,

Keep pushing them values! ;)

Jack,

I wouldn't give up on this! You can change this digitally in whichever way you choose, remember. ;) If you are not already working at 300 dpi, I recommend doing so ~ this will allow you to get a much greater range of detail. I would save a copy of your version, and resize it to 300 dpi. It may be a bit blurry, but you can always re~detail. :)

I think this has tons of potential, and I would hate to see you give up. If you need to move the position of parts of the figure, select with the lasso tool, feather your selection, and copy and paste and resize / rotate / etc. that particular item. For example, if you wanted to move the left character further to the left, you could do that pretty easily, and then paint on a layer on top to reblend the character into the background. Digitally, you can more or less change things however you want.

Keep plugging away at this, I think you have a great start! Things always look a bit messy in the beginning, but if you keep working at it, you will really come up with a nice result! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Maladie]

Guido: thanks! I have to laugh a little bit at the notion of me helping you, when I was just drooling over your skill and beautiful brushstrokes. Are you using painter? And making the broad strokes, do you work on one layer? It's a beautiful workflow, or looks like it at least. I wonder if I could do something similar, but I think if I don't practice with shapes and masses first it would end up very sloppy:).

Ellie: I don't know you or anything, but it's really funny to see you predict something likely to happen to you, and two pages later it actually starts happening:). You said you weren't gonna finish this...well, today is the first day I'm able to see your thumbnails (no idea why) and all I can say is wow! Please don't quit! Take it to the next level, where I would love to go but am not able yet. Anyway don't wanna push you or anything, just cheering you on!

[DigitalSol]

Hello, great update here Jack, well I work in a promotional agency as graphical designer, for the experience I can tell u that, if u work at 300 dpis u can print the artwork till 5 times larger, (500%), without too much visible quality loss, and if u work at 100 dpis, u can print it at 100%, thats my 2 cents.

Hope this was usefull, Jack u are very talented since I read u are 14, dont u?

[Jack Shannon]

Rebecca,

Thanks for the encouragment and tips, you gave me an idea too! If I do that feathered lasso tool thing, then Ctrl and T I can free transform and make the middle character's head smaller! :) Then I can smooth out some things so it doesn't feel messy and get back on track.

Sorry a realy noob question but whats dpi and how do i change it?

about tutorials where can I paste them?

edit: Sorry, I didn't see your post digital sol, So dpi lets you print bigger? I still a bit confused, i understand pixel size though. Yes I am fourteen, fifteen in three weeks :thumbsup:, I really enjoy drawing, thanks for the compliment mate!

Btw Your top left character is looking amazing.
Close ups are really insightfull i think, it should be made law to post them ;)

[Vahn]

great work in here ... pity i dont have time for this :cry:

rebecca: it looks great so far .. one thing i noticed on the first glance: the character on the right is a bit too high ... he should be a little bit lower :D

[DigitalSol]

The dpis number is the actual number of pixels that there is in one inch of your artwork, When u make a new document u can choose it on the new document window, after this u can resize the image, Menu: Image: Image Size: Resolution. Hope this helps.

Thanks, Glad ti hear u like my painting.

seeya

Sorry, I didn't see your post digital sol, So dpi lets you print bigger? I still a bit confused, i understand pixel size though. Yes I am fourteen, fifteen in three weeks :thumbsup:, I really enjoy drawing, thanks for the compliment mate!

Btw Your top left character is looking amazing, close ups are really insightfull i think.

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi Rebecca and everyone:

Am taking some time out to teach myself how to use my newest toy:
Zbrush - Amazing Program
But couldn't resist playing with this one a little though.
Some really nice starts happening on here so far. Very impressive for sure.
Can't wait to see them finished. Should be great!

Take Care
Glenn


http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/CARAVAGGIO.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/CARAVAGGIO_8.jpg

[SpiritDreamer]

Rebecca....:bounce: your style of painting is capturing the mood perfectly....really enjoying seeing
you progress on this painting....hope you find time to finish it.....one of your best so far...:arteest:
just my opinion though....:)

TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Mu]

so many great paintings in here already!

Knorke!

Rebecca - very sensual gradation in the face details and graceful hands.

Jack - Don't worry mate, you are doing great. You saw for yourself the problem with the head's sizes and you have all the tools to change this. I am still stunned at your talent.

as concerns dpi: it's dots per inch. Your monitor is very likely to show you something between 72 and 92 dpi. If you start a new painting or scale it you can change not only aspect ratio (the width/height in pixels), but also change how many of them are shown on an inch.
Home and normal office printers print at 300dpi. So, if you have a pic 3000 pixels wide and with a resolution of 300dpi it will turn out to be 10 inches wide when printed (3000/300).
If on the other hand you use less than 300 dpi the print size will be scaled down as the printer can only print at 300 dpi.
Correct me anyone if I have gotten anything wrong.
And as concerns tutorials: I hope you have seen the tutorial sticky in the art theories forum?

Digital Sol - I like what you are doing, especially like the guy on J.C.'s right. As concerns blending I have found the softedged brushes to work wonders. You already are good at establishing the forms with harder edged brushes. No reason to not use the softedged one, too.

Kudos to Lotekk for non-conformist choice of topic!

Glenn - always feels like geologists wet dream at these early stages. Minerals becoming alive!:scream: Intruiging as always.

[itsGuido]

Maladie - well, either way your tonal was helpful so shoosh! :D Im working in photoshop on the one layer yup.

update for today, just working most places at once. Painting it pretty zoomed out and squinting my eyes like crazy, still fleshing out tones and colours apart from that piece of cloth (got a bit hasty to detail it)

oh yeh thnx Rebecca that HSB colour slider is the best ever! i read your post about it before i began, forgot to mention it tho. SUch a huge help.
G

http://www.itsguido.com/images/2d/workshop/04.jpg

[DigitalSol]

Mu:

Thanks a lot, :) I found the hard brushes easy to control, because the act in a limited region, when I work with the soft rounds, they are hard to control for me because they throw paint in places where I dont want, :cry:, but I will keep trying, I'm thankful with u for watching my work, thanks, I hope the update likes u. :beerchung:

Guido: Amazing work, great use of colors, supberb gestaul actitudes, great to see it.:thumbsup:

Spirit Dreamer: That looks very interesting, I have never used Zbrush, but after see ur work I think I will try it, overall great work, will looking for ur updates.

Maladie: Great tonal work, you are establishing the scene very good.

Well I hope not to be forgotting anyone, great work for all, here is my update, I would like u give an opinion, and I want that u know that part of this piece is yours, thanks for the crits and the hints :grin: thanx from now, keep on going everyone u all are doing a great work.

:wip:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Detallado.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Detallado2.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Detallado3.jpg

Edit: I almost forgot, Rebecca thanks for your welcome, and the brush settings were very usefull, thanks a lot. :)

[Rebeccak]

Will reply to everyone shortly, but for the moment, just want to compliment Digital Sol on some beautiful work! Okay, now I need to go get something done...:D...back in a few. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Kalorlo]

Did a bit of facework, and also doubled the size of my working image (until now I was working at the same size as the reference image). This is at 100% zoom.

http://www.kellyhouse.force9.co.uk/art/master/supper02.jpg

[Jack Shannon]

Wow there is so much impressive work in this thread.

Digital Sol:That is so freaking beautiful, the left two characters are amazing, quality mate! :thumbsup: I added you to msn, hope you don't mind. I found how to change dpi thanks.

Mr Mu: Please join in :)! I feel really guilty actually because I keep starting to read through your anatomy thread and get lost by the third page and end up skipping to the last page. You improved sooooooooooReoccurring much. The quality of your latest work is amazing. I promise I will take a proper look tomorrow and give you some proper feedback. Thankyou for the detailed explaination of dpi too, I think I understand now. About, the tutorial thread, yes I have seen it but people only post links to external tutorials there do they not? I want to right some for this forum.

Kalorlo: Thats coming along really nicely mate, only crit I have is the mouth needs to be wider. The form and colours are awesome.

Cheers,
~Jack

[Rebeccak]

Jack,

I would be happy for you to create a Tutorial/s of your own! :) All you need to do is to create a New Thread, and call it TUTORIAL - *What it's about* - by Jack Shannon. (Minus the asterisks * of course). ;)

What type of tutorial did you have in mind? :) I always encourage folks to write and post tutorials as they choose. You needn't clear it by me, I'm just curious as to your topic.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[DigitalSol]

Jack:

Sure I dont mind, but I dont use the msn too much, u can send me an e mail, that I will be faster, Im almost all the day online because Im at work. Glad to have a new artist friend.

:beer:

Edit: Forgott, esandoval-at-bbpromociones.com.mx, thats it

[Jack Shannon]

You know what I really like about these forums is that people treat me like an adult, its such a nice community.

Digital Sol, will do mate, thanks!

Rebecca, Thanks for the thumbs up, I'll make a start on some soon. Well I what I want to do is do lots of tutorials that can help people with new things I learn along my journey to become good at digital painting, so maybe do some walkthroughs, tips ones like Nebizial sort of thing and some helping people with difficulties that I have had and found ways around. Because I know that even simple things like 'what canvas size' 'where to start' 'what to paint' can knock peoples confidence and stunt their growth as an artist.

~Jack

[Maladie]

Everybody good work!

I was a good girl and did my homework, i.e. I did a gesture study in 15-20 minutes. The composition of this is just dramatic and totally beautiful. (the master, not my study:)).

I am now officially allowing myself to the fun part:); the rendering and colours, jeee!
O yeah, I did this on one layer, 600 by 600, and wasn't able to erase or change anything, so this is the one try.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/rava1981/Caravaggio/lineart.jpg

[DigitalSol]

Maladie, good start, have fun, I will look to your updates surely.

[Rebeccak]

Ack, I've been out of commission with allergies all day *sniffle* sorry for the lack of activity today guys. :)

Originally posted by Jack: You know what I really like about these forums is that people treat me like an adult, its such a nice community.
I think when you act like an adult and are mature in your posts, you will be treated like an adult. :) It's a pleasure to have your contributions to the forums. :)

Rebecca, Thanks for the thumbs up, I'll make a start on some soon. Well I what I want to do is do lots of tutorials that can help people with new things I learn along my journey to become good at digital painting, so maybe do some walkthroughs, tips ones like Nebizial sort of thing and some helping people with difficulties that I have had and found ways around. Because I know that even simple things like 'what canvas size' 'where to start' 'what to paint' can knock peoples confidence and stunt their growth as an artist.
That sounds great! I think the thing then would be to call your thread TUTORIALS - *What They're About* - by Jack Shannon. Really looking forward to these! :)

Maladie,

Great to see your start! What program are you working in? :) You mentioned that you can't edit things ~ so I'm wondering if you are working in ArtRage or similar program. It looks like you're starting off on the right foot, and I look forward to seeing what develops! :thumbsup:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Rebeccak]

Small update...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_09.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_09_detail-1.jpg

[Maladie]

Hello Rebecca,

what a beautiful, soft flowing style you have!
No worries, I work in Photoshop, but am selftought and therefore have no proper routine for working with layers. I do ofcourse if I remember to put stuff in the right place, but this time I put everything on the background layer:rolleyes:. So if I used the eraser, I got a big white smudge and didn't know how to change it.
I'm going to progress with the value-study, which was neatly arranged in layers. Do you have any usefull tips for a workflow in PS? Like, the background on one layer, and every character on a separate one? I now put every colour on a separate layer, but that's not very logical.

[Mu]

Mr Mu: Please join in :)! I feel really guilty actually because I keep starting to read through your anatomy thread and get lost by the third page and end up skipping to the last page. You improved sooooooooooReoccurring much. The quality of your latest work is amazing. I promise I will take a proper look tomorrow and give you some proper feedback.

my thread is not meant to be a guilt-inducing read:scream: - so just feel free to ignore it, hehe:D But I am glad you like it and thanks for the compliment.

And as concerns treating you like a grown-up: all that is left of you as a person in a forum are your thoughts and your way of expressing things. I couldn't have guessed your age by these so it's your merit not ours. We have a saying in Germany which is hard to translate but refers to the fact that the echo is created by the one who shouts.
See?
:)

[Rebeccak]

Update details...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_11_detail-1.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_11_detail-2.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_14.jpg

[DigitalSol]

Wow, nice update rebecca, both are very good, but my favorite is the character at Jesus's left, the old man, great work.

:thumbsup:

[Rebeccak]

Digital Sol,

Thanks! I took you up on your suggestion to tweak the far left character, so I'm still trying to work on them all. :)

Maladie,

Thanks a lot for the compliment! :)

I am not the best person at organizing my layers, so I recommend doing as I say, and not as I do. :D However, that being said, here is more or less how I have things organized so far. I create folders for the different elements in the picture (I'm not always perfect about keeping these completely ordered, but I try) :D and within those folders are the layers pertaining to that particular element.

It's really important to name your layers / and or folders, as you can lose track of them pretty quickly otherwise. To name a layer or folder, you just double click on it, and type your name. Press enter after you've named it.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015-LAYERS.gif

Anything you do in PS can be edited easily. So that, even if you have everything on the background layer, you can use your lasso tool to select the individual figures, and copy and paste them onto their own layers so that you have them all separated out. You can scale, rotate, re~whatever the indidual elements then.

Let me know if you have any specific questions about the basic functions of PS.

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Rebeccak]

Update on the table items...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_15.jpg

[DigitalSol]

That food is looking really good, that is only this of this piece in particualr that i dont have much desire for paint, that is the hard part, I think, unfortunly, think I will not post anything today maybe neither tormorrow, I had been at the agency for about 30 hour without any rest, and still there is too much to do, Im sooo sleepy. :wise:.

I need to catch you up soon.(some words in english that i recently learn)

:cry:

[Rebeccak]

Enrique,

Thank you! :) Don't worry, we have 3 weeks left in the Workshop, there is plenty of time to catch up. ;) The food is the least exciting to paint, but after you start, it's not hard, and it gets to be fun...just jump in! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Maladie]

Wow, Rebecca, that moving tutorial picture-thingie (I'm losing myself with this line...) is really helpful! Interesting, it seems like you arranged the different pieces of the painting in order of depth. That's a really good way of working in a sort of 3D way! Which is ofcourse, I realise just now, what layers are for...ahem.

I'm going to try it, thanks!

[Rebeccak]

Maladie,

Hehe, glad the animated gif was helpful! :)

A bit of an update on the table:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_16.jpg

[RobertoOrtiz]

Rebecca thst is really top notch work.

Well done.

-R

[Elliepower]

Hi everyone,

I decided to do more working on the picture, though I know I have a wrong-colored Ref *lol* and I am a chaotic nooooobee. I told myself, that I do not to be perfekt as the other user here. It could be wrong with everything, but how could I ever learn doing this if I don't try.

Try to place the items in right position.

LG,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/cgtalkwip07.jpg

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi....Elliepower // Marion....:)

I think that your painting looks ...GREAT...your colors are ...FANTASTIC...:thumbsup:
I think that if you put some rich gold and coppers, reds, blacks ect. into that table of food
and really concentrate on the details there, like Caravaggio did, you'll have yourself a winner.
I was just reading that he got himself into a lot of trouble with the other painters of his time,
by making his still lifes look just as detailed and important as the human figures...really went
against the grain of the time I guess...but in the end, it is what made his paintings better
than everyone elses of that time period.:scream:
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK ON THIS ONE...REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOUR
PROGRESSION.:thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Rebeccak]

Rob,

Thanks! :)

Elliepower,

You are doing a great job! Color is actually the easiest thing to change, if you are unhappy with your colors. You can adjust color very easily in PS using Image > Adjustments > Hue / Saturation or Selective Color, etc. :)

Keep going, this is looking really good! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Rebeccak]

An update from yesterday ~ will have to move the left character over more to the left to accomodate the table items...for now I've cut into his arm, but he's on a different layer, so should be fairly easy to move. :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_18.jpg

[Maladie]

Elliepower, could you tell me how you made your background? I want to use something similar for a painting of my own. Good to see you continue, btw!:)

[Elliepower]

Hi Maladie,

the first time I took the speckled brush, but the edges are too sharpen so that it looks bad. Now I tried out a bit round brush with soften edges and then *tip-tip-tip* the main colors with high transparency for the brush, with a very small view of the picture (or the navigator's view), so that I can control the colors. Hard to explain, hope you understand what I mean. First I took very saturated colors and went back to the dark and desatureted ones. It is easy, cause I overpaint so often until it hast the look I want it to. Hehe, this is botching? I don't know.

So here is my update, the food is horrible to paint, so many details. I changed the colors by desaturate the old pic and took the new colors by hand. I am not satisfied at all with this, the hand of the priest is terrible, hmm, there ist a lot of things I don't like. Ah, and the background is totally new.

I think in the end my version is more an illustration then a copy.

LG,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/cgtalkwip08.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Ellie,

You shouldn't be so hard on yourself ~ this is new, and you've tackled a Master Painting ~ which is brave, because these painters were not called Masters for no reason. ;) Actually, doing a copy for me just greatly increases my respect for the original work, which is really impossible to match in it's perfection. The purpose of doing these Master Copies is really to lift our own level of ability, which will be greater than our previous level of ability, even if it will never match that of the Master Artists whose works we're using as reference. :) So no worries. ;)

Keep at it, you're doing a great job!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[Elliepower]

Hi Rebeccak,

yeah, yesterday I went to the Hamburger Kunsthalle and I was very... ooooh, aaaah... don't find a word in english. There were a lot beautiful pictures and the artists who painted them were genius people.

And it is another feeling to look at those paintings in real and not "only" digitally versions.

It is fantastic how people can work out such details 600 and more years ago, and I recognized very hard they did not have the "go back"-button. *rofl*

Bye,
Ellie

[Zapan]

wow , great progress everyone ... the speed you're all going on is hardly believable !
Definitely awesome for me to see your differents approaches you guys are going with on this ...
especially considering that Caravaggio is one of my favorite painter from yore ... eggggselent ! :)

@ Spirit Dreamer : always so nice to see your different approach of the theme !

@ Digital Sol : just wow !! :eek:

@ Rebecca : amazing progress , so nice to you to share your PS stack ... I have to save this somewhere ...
OT spam : .... and sweet new avatar :love: ... and now I have to crack the wmp code ! :scream:

cheers everyone !

-Zapan

[Rebeccak]

Eets Steph!!! :scream:

WMP = with my peeps! :D My friend bought me these stuffed animals you see in the avatar ~ they're called peeps ~ so now I have peeps! :D

Chears, :)

~RK

[SpiritDreamer]

Here is a most fantstic still life artist!

http://waheednasir.cgsociety.org/gallery/210440/ (http://waheednasir.cgsociety.org/gallery/210440/)

Mrs Spirit Dreamer's favorite!

[Rebeccak]

Thanks for the link, Glenn! :)

Latest update:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_19.jpg

[Jack Shannon]

Rebecca that is beautiful!

[DigitalSol]

Yesterday I didn't work at this, (too much work), well I spend 2 hours on this, hope u like.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/detalles1.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/detalles2.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/detalles3.jpg

BTW Zapan: Thanks a lot.
Elliepower: That looks definately better with each day that u paint, congrats, great work.
Rebecca: Awesome job as ussual, my favorite is jesus' head, great work at the foods.

Bye, had fun with this.

[Rebeccak]

Jack,

Thanks a lot! :)

Enrique,

WOW, this is really taking off! :) I love the leftmost character, you are really doing an amazing job with that! :D Can't wait to see further progress here!

I'm so excited about the Anatomy Forum's new digs! :bounce:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[DigitalSol]

Thank u very much Rebecca, your advice about the contrast, really works. :D

[Maladie]

A little study, wasn't able to do more today...

I think I might just do some studies to learn from this, it seems like so much work. But we'll see.



http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/rava1981/Caravaggio/jesushead.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Enrique,

That's great, you're welcome! :)

Maladie,

WOW, that's beautiful!! :thumbsup: Keep going with this, you are definitely on the right track here! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Maladie]

Rebecca: thanks!!

Digital Sol: I love your work overall, but Jesus' right cheek (for him) keeps distracting me. It looks almost like a white mask, but a little blending might solve it...I find it incredible you can tackle such a big canvas at once, btw!

[DigitalSol]

Maladie:

Thanks for the advice, as a fact I realized that detail too, but I didnt know what to do, I will try to follow your hint, thanks a lot.

Really, is not so hard to work in a big canvas, i think, the trick for do this is work from larger areas (when i beggin this painting I worked it with the zoom at 2,5 percent and paint with brushes about 300 pixels), to smaller (now that Im on the details Im working with a zoom of 250 % or more, and in some areas Im painting with brushes of 3 pixels.)

A thing that has been usefull for me is, when u work a big paint, u better work in 2 or 3 layers. Because that way your computer dont suffer for the memory, this painting have 2 layers, 1 for the background other for the foreground, and is 3300 * 2329 at 300dpi's.

Thanks a lot Maladie

:)

[daWinky]

Morning everyone!:wavey: (http://forums.cgsociety.org/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#)

Wow, it's just amazing to see what you've all done in little more than a week...especially Elliepower, Digital Sol and Becca: Great work with the supper!:thumbsup:
I'm really envy, I've no spare time for painting at the moment:cry: (http://forums.cgsociety.org/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#), but I'm following the progress here eagerly!

Becca: Congrats to you, not only for your amazing painting, but for the new, better place for the Anatomy Forum! You've made this an always interesting, growing place with a lot of activity due to all your advertising, encouragement and energy!:applause:

-sabrina

[Rebeccak]

Sabie,

Thanks so much, I so appreciate your comments! :) I am really happy and I have to say that it's not just my efforts but everyones' effort here that have made the Anatomy Forum a really vital place...think of all of the amazing work produced in some of the past OFDWs alone! :eek: I certainly couldn't do that myself! :)

So a big thank you to everyone here, because the success of the forum has everything to do with peoples' hard work and enthusiasm here. :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

*Rebeccak

[Amerasu]

Everything has changed... Great forum division though :)

So much beautiful work here!

I don't think I'll be able to participate in this one as I've got a ridiculous deadline over the next 2 weeks for a whole bunch of illustrations/paintings. I'm struggling a bit.

I'll come back and comment when I'm done and if there's still time, I will tackle that master painting!

[Maladie]

Another study, this time of the woman in the background. I noticed a worrying tendency to tell her to get a grip:). She's just grieving too hard. Hehehe...No seriously, those faces are really beautiful!


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/rava1981/Caravaggio/handsuphead.jpg

[DigitalSol]

Hello everyone, here is a little update, for the supper, I made a new layer for J's hair.

@daWinky, thanx Im doing my best, glad u like, I hope to see you on the next IFDW I like ur work very much. :wavey:

@Maladie: ur studies looks very good, but i think that u can still apply a deep shadow, I think that will make that it looks even better, I tried to follow your advice and I blend the face a little more with a darker color, hope u and everyone could give me an opinion, BTW thanks.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/La-cena-de-Emmausdetalles2.jpg

:wavey:

[Rebeccak]

Enrique,

Beautiful update! :) I haven't been able to work on mine these past couple of days, but hope to get back to it soon. :)

The hair looks great, I think the only thing right now is the hard edge on J's cheek * also, I think the angle of the part in the hair might be a little different from the original, but that's such a minor thing. I think the background behind J is a bit darker, and the shadow edge a bit softer * but I know you're still refining things. Great to see your update! :)

Cheers,

*Rebeccak

[DigitalSol]

Thanks Becca, I will try to blend a little bit more the cheek, I still haven't work on the background but I will think about it when I will do, thanks a lot for your suggestions, I will sure follow them all.

Yeah, yesterday I realized that u havent update ur work, I hope you can get enough time for work it, i enjoy always your post.

Thanks again

[Elliepower]

Hi everyone,

@maladie
Your studies looks fantastic, go on with it!

@DigitalSol
Great to see you with such patience, wonderful.

Hehe, patience... höhämm. I tried another one, paint-hopping, I've never done a 15-min.-Sketchaton before, so I did this. It is difficult to match the right lines, the bizeps is a bigzeps,lol. The things I do must even be a lit funny or melancholy so that I am motivate to paint it. The guy is very funny cause he wears a "schiesser" (a type of underwear) and he has a gun in his hand, this guy I would give the name "schiesser" (somebody who shoots) in german.

LG,
Ellie

http://www.elliepower.de/test13.jpg

[DigitalSol]

Ellie, that looks great for only 15 minutes, good job, I think I will try one too.

The patiente is my challenge for this workshop, I have never painted something that take me more than 1 week lol, generally all my illustrations take me 1 or 3 days and thats all, patiente is something that i dont own, but I want for this Im pushing myself to the end of this, I think that the only way for get patiente is paint something that requires is.

Keep on working because you are going great with the supper.

:wavey:

[Rebeccak]

Ellie,


Great to see your sketches! Do you plan to take this further? :) Are you totally finished with the larger work? :)

Small update for me - I haven't had a lot of time in the past few days, but I definitely wanted to get in a bit of time tonight - so I worked a bit more on the table items, J's left hand, and the leftmost character.


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_20.jpg

Here is a gif comparison between my last and latest versions:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/compare.gif






Cheers, :)

- Rebeccak

[ceresz]

Awesome Rebecca, I have to start! But I can't... not until monday... :(

[DigitalSol]

Good Morning everyone, lately I haven't too much time for painting, this is a small update, I think is not much but at least is something, I tried to blend more J's face, made some work at the clothes, and I was thinking about the redefine all the mantle, hope u like and you can give some crit, all will be listened.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/jesus-ropa1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/jesus-ropa2.jpg

Rebecca I love the work you are doing at the table and the meals, congrats :thumbsup:

thanks

[DigitalSol]

Here is a little close for the hand, for me is the most difficult part for drawing in all the body lol, so I think that it deserves a close up :)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/mano.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Enrique,

Thank you! :) Your piece is looking more and more awesome! :thumbsup: I love the way you are painting the cloth in particular - and each face you have zoomed in on is coming out wonderfully! I guess my only suggestion at this point is to perhaps make the background a bit darker, but that's really it ~ everything else is in lovely development. Can't wait to see your next update!

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[DigitalSol]

Awesome thanks Rebecca, that means lots coming from somebody such talented like u. :)

[Rebeccak]

Awww, no problem, Enrique! You're very talented yourself. :) Thank you very much for the compliment. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Maladie]

DS: looking really good! Better with the blending, too.
Becca: that food makes me go hungry!:)

Here are my updates. I thought Digital Sol had a good point about the shading on my last, so I tweaked that some more:
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/rava1981/Caravaggio/handsuphead2.jpg

Plus, I did the old mans head, which I found not only hard to read, but also hard to copy with all the wrinkles. So up for comments and crits, here goes:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/rava1981/Caravaggio/bendguyhead.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Maladie,

These are looking great! :thumbsup: I think the next step might be to really detail with a small medium opacity brush (maybe 50 - 75%) with black or near black to really up the contrast and bring out details, particularly in the older gentleman's face. Now that you have the basic values established, it just remains to really tweak and polish at an increasingly fine level of detail. I really am impressed with your progress here, and look forward to more updates! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[bakatron]

anyone mind if i joined in this - im going to be using sketchbook pro so i hope no one minds me using this as a way of learning about painting and colouring and at the sametime the tool that im using.

[Rebeccak]

bakatron,

You are absolutely welcome to join! There are still 3 weeks left in this Workshop. You are free to use whatever program or programs that you wish. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[DigitalSol]

That was really hard but finally Im pleased with the mantle

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/manto1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/manto2.jpg

I think that still lacks of cast shadows from the hair but this will be the last for today.

Later!!

[bakatron]

and this is pretty much how i start with things. i make a simple breakdown before i hit anything. i never try to draw anything directly unless everything is laid out.

i'm going to be dividing my time between the other thread that i'm on, this, and work over the next few weeks so i hope i get enough time to work with this. i do hope i get to learn alot which is what i'm striving for. i do know im incredibly careless at times though :p

http://coraelin.com/artstuff/kimmel_supper/1.jpg

[Rebeccak]

bakatron,

Great to see you joining in! :thumbsup: I recommend filling the bkgrd with a tone...makes things a lot easier! :)

Enrique,

Your cloth is looking awesome! :thumbsup:

Small update from me:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_21.jpg

Still not getting a lot of time to work on this...hopefully tomorrow. :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[DigitalSol]

Bakatron:
Good to see you are in, your schematic looks very good.

Rebecca:
That looks really good, the only thing for me is the foreground character, but I think you are still working, so, great update.

Here is mine, is not too much, but I have lots of work here,

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/jesus-terminado.jpg

Bye

[Rebeccak]

Enrique,

Ah, I see the hands are really starting to develop! :thumbsup: Something I really like about your image and didn't comment on before is the construction of the chair ~ really great sense of the wood there! I love how the arm interlocks with the backing. :)

Hopefully I'll get some time to work on this tonight! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Rebeccak]

Still working on this...kind of tweaking about: :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_23.jpg

Detail of food items:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_23_detail.jpg

EDIT: another update:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_24_small.jpg
Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[SoniaNotRed]

Digital Sol - Great clothes all around but I was totally blown away by that mantle! :eek: Good work!

Rebeccak - Love the lighting in yours. Cool detail on the bottle's shadow! :thumbsup:

Here's me humble piccie. About 1.10 hour :blush: (and about half of it erasing :p).
I spent a lot of time making sure I got the legs right this time. Still, I'm guessing I'll only start seeing all the pic's faults after I post it, as usual...
Shading later.

http://nekoi.no.sapo.pt/Asai/Des%20015%2006-04-06%2000.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Hi Sonia! :)

It's great to see you here ~ this OFDW has been a bit quiet, I don't know if it's because the Forum moved, and the link changed, or if it's the CGChallenge and CGPortfolio that have been distracting :D but it's always nice to have more people participating here! :) Thank you for your comments!

I quite like your drawing and the way that you are analyzing form. I would say to watch the way the foot connects with the ankle, as you really want his right leg to feel as though it is bearing the weight of the pose.

Looking forward to your new update! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[DigitalSol]

Hello everyone, here is a little update, I found hard to render the right character, his hair is getting me mad, any tips for paint the hair are welcome, thanks.

@Rebecca:
Great work, I love the glass of the bottle on the table, the details at the food are really good. I always enjoy your updates.

@Sonia:
Thank u very much, as for ur draw, I think is very good, a hint that I can give is, try drawing the negative space, where is nothing, I mean, generally we concentrate too much in the inner details and dont care too much for the enviorement, this can be great help, try it, u will realize that it makes it more easy.

Thanks.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/La-cena-de-Emmausdetalles5.jpg

[DigitalSol]

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/La-cena-de-Emmausdetalles6.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Enrique,

Thank you! That shell looks just fantastic! :thumbsup: Really beautiful work there ~ wow, it's almost photographic! :eek:

Trying to update mine a bit today...

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[DigitalSol]

Today I had a little rest for work in the paint, this is my final post for the day, hope u like and give some feedback, thanks, over for now.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/La-cena-de-Emmausdetalles8.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/La-cena-de-Emmausdetalles7.jpg

:wavey:

[bakatron]

RebeccaK and Digital Sol - you guys are totally kicking ass in this. It's amazing watching you guys - i dont think i'll come to that level anytime soon, but hey - its all for fun :)

Sonia - I love your anatomical layout.

and this is how far i've gotten - im really busy nowadays but trying to work on this. ive added a subtle gradient layer which i imported from photoshop into sketchbook pro as a background. when i reduced the image to 600px in width, the grad resolution sort of fell so it looks rather weird right now. i did do some second stage figure break down. i think i'll spend some time properly drawing it properly... i draw in a rather freestyle manner so i it looks a bit different right now.

-abbas

http://coraelin.com/artstuff/kimmel_supper/2.jpg

[Jack Shannon]

Bakatron, Awesome start, I love the way you put everything together, looking forward to seeing more!

[Rebeccak]

Enrique,

Great stuff! :thumbsup:

abbas,

Thank you for the compliment! :) It's great to see your work, and I look forward to seeing it develop. One question, are you able to use a soft brush in SketchbookPro? Just out of curiosity. A lot of the work I have seen using that program are mostly hard edged, linear drawings, so I wasn't sure. :) Let's see another update! :thumbsup:

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[zhuzhu]

Rebeccak & Digital Sol: you guys rock~~~! i haven't so much patience as that. my patience's top limt just 5-7 hours, here is 3 hours version, and i feel finished yet,haha. forgive me.


http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/6518/ofdw155xr.jpg

[Rebeccak]

Zhuzhu,

Thank you! Your piece is beautiful! We can't convince you to work a little more on this piece? :D :arteest:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[zhuzhu]

Zhuzhu,

Thank you! Your piece is beautiful! We can't convince you to work a little more on this piece? :D :arteest:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

thanks,maybe next time.here is some details of this work.


http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1945/751d16oe.jpg



http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1940/751d22cf.jpg



http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9016/751d36qs.jpg

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi....Zhuzhu.....FANTASTIC.......BEAUTIFUL JOB...CRISP COLORS...NOT OVERWORKED..:bounce: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Vidar3d]

ZhuZhu, fantastiacally rendered there. So loose and bold and yet somehow very detailed. Very inspiring.

[Rebeccak]

Zhuzhu,

Thanks for the closeups! :thumbsup:

Heya Vidar,

Feel free to jump in at any time! :)

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Rebeccak]

Garr, more slow progress :D ~ added a bit of a stencil to the tablecloth, and am starting to add the chair ~ many small refinements...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_25_small.jpg

It's hard for me to believe how anyone ever painted to such a degree traditionally ~ I have an even deeper respect for Caravaggio than I did previously. The achievement in his painting is just mind boggling!

Cheers,

~Rebeccak

[Zapan]

It's hard for me to believe how anyone ever painted to such a degree traditionally ~ I have an even deeper respect for Caravaggio than I did previously. The achievement in his painting is just mind boggling!

I'm backing up Rebecca here ! I've been always fascinated by these people ! I'm also fascinated by people who can just paint traditionally without a CTRL-Z tho ... And also fascinated by you guys all who can reproduce these masterpieces in such low delays and yet so well , I'm pretty sure Caravaggio is grinning in his grave lately ! I'm fascinated by Korean people who don't like rice too ... :scream: ...

w00ting work everyone !

chears ,

-Steph

[bakatron]

Rebecca,

I think you can emulate a soft brush effect. By default you have a standard hard brush but you can create that look by changing the brush opacity properties. its somewhat different than PS which has preset hard and soft brushes along with opacity levels for the airbrush.

It's not quite painter or art rage like, but it does the trick.

Of course my knowledge is pretty limited about these things, but this is my understanding with it so far.

-abbas

[DigitalSol]

Hello everyone, this was a very unproductive weekend for me, but here is some update, I consider the background that i get a bit darker and the characters finished and I worked a little bit the table and the items, hope u like.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Emmaus1.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Emmaus2.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/esandovalcastromex/Emmaus3.jpg

@Bakatron.
Thanks a lot for your words, you already have a really good level, sure, like everything with the practice u get better, but you are doing a great work here.:thumbsup:

@Zhuzhu.
Thanks a lot, Im a fan of your work, really awesome tutorials, your version of the supper is reaaalllyy good rendered with some few colors, :applause:

@Rebecca.
Really beautiful paint u have there, did u make the stencil in a vectorial way and then pasted it, I was thinking do something like that, over all a great work, congrats :applause:

Thanks to all for ur opinions, Im trying to do my best with the time that I have, also I have always loved this paint, so that makes it easier.

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi....Enrique...:)

I have been watching your painting from the start, and have really enjoyed it's developement.
I like the golden warmth of it. I think you have done a really great job on it also...:thumbsup:
Would like to see some more detail in the beards on the two seated figures, and in the mouth
area of the seated figure on the right. The hand , forarm and wrist of Jesus. that is on the
table needs more defineing shadow and highlight. The chicken needes to have that golden
browned wet and crisp looking texture that it has to it when it just comes out of the oven,
along with the bread also. The fruit needs to have a wet shine to it, with stronger highlights
and shadows, to give it that shimmer and sparkle, that makes you want to pick it up and
eat it. The white table cloth needes to look like it is draped over the front of the table, there should be a highlighted crease along the front edge of the table top, where it hangs
over, and a slight shadow on the part that hangs over the edge.
These are just a few minor details, but will really add to the beauty of your already beautiful painting, and as Rebecca says, will take it to a higher level...:)
GREAT JOB SO FAR...:applause:

TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Rebeccak]

Originally posted by Steph: I'm backing up Rebecca here ! I've been always fascinated by these people ! I'm also fascinated by people who can just paint traditionally without a CTRL-Z tho ... And also fascinated by you guys all who can reproduce these masterpieces in such low delays and yet so well , I'm pretty sure Caravaggio is grinning in his grave lately ! I'm fascinated by Korean people who don't like rice too ... :scream: ...
Great to see you back chearing here, Steph! :) Hey, making both Caravaggio and Steph grin in the same day is a pretty good achievement, I'd say! :D Chears!

Originally posted by abbas: I think you can emulate a soft brush effect. By default you have a standard hard brush but you can create that look by changing the brush opacity properties. its somewhat different than PS which has preset hard and soft brushes along with opacity levels for the airbrush.

It's not quite painter or art rage like, but it does the trick.

Of course my knowledge is pretty limited about these things, but this is my understanding with it so far.
No worries, abbas, I guess the main bit is just diving in. :) Enrique is doing an amazing job using mostly hard brushes and that seems to be the standard practice...I guess when using hard brushes, value control becomes even more important. Looking forward to seeing your update! :)

Originally posted by enrique: Really beautiful paint u have there, did u make the stencil in a vectorial way and then pasted it, I was thinking do something like that, over all a great work, congrats :applause:
Enrique, thanks a lot! I did make the pattern (just one section) with paths, marquee box selections, etc., and then stroked the paths so that the background was transparent. I then just placed them on top of the tablecloth and duplicated the pattern two or three times. It still needs to be made a lot more subtle, so it's not finished yet. :D

Your painting is looking amazing, and I am tremendously impressed in particular by how you paint cloth ~ it's beautiful! It's great to see you starting in on the food on the table ~ I think once you're all finished, this piece will really blow people away! :thumbsup:

Cheers, :)

~Rebeccak

[DigitalSol]

@Glenn:
Thanks man, all your observations will be listened, I agree with u I need to work the food, and as for the details on the characters, I cant see all the details on the jpg image but will try put them on the 4th pass, (Im on the 3rd, generally I give 4 or 5 passes before I put color), and :shrug: I havent work the tablecloth yet, but I will take note, I hope my next update like u, Thanks again.

@Rebecca:
Thanks a lot, glad u like it!!!

So you did it that way, I was thinking do that in Corel Draw and retouch it in PS, I will try it. Because I dont dominate the paths on Ps or Illustrator,:shrug:
:beer:

[Rebeccak]

Enrique,

Yep, here is the 'stencil' I made (not traced): :)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/OFDW%20015/OFDW-015_tablecloth-pattern.jpg

Each element of the design is on a separate layer, and the gray background is on a layer so that I could turn down it's opacity so you could see the tablecloth beneath. Ultimately I just discarded the gray background altogether. Eventually I added