WIP Creature

[(o)ne]

Looks good so far, I'll stay in touch to see you make the details :)

[pap87]

That's really cool! Good stuff. SSS looks awesome.

[yule01]

Really cool creature! I've been studying different shaved animals that normally have feathers or fur and I've been really inspired. Sometimes the coolest musculature is hidden by a lot of fluff. Can't wait to see the textures.

[J.Gaeta]

Very nice work Jelmer. I think going with the feet from your concept is the way to go. Maybe the folds above the shoulder need some work. To me they don't look natural. Where they meet the folds coming from the armpit is a bit odd. Great work on the head and beak. The folds on the neck are beautiful! You have an eye for details my friend. Anyway, here is to the long nights ahead...

[Rjays]

I love your drawings and the concept is unique.
You have reached that high level of detail already in terms of modeling. nice flesh feeling too.
I can see brilliant future of you. Keep it up~
How are you going to texture that?
Are you planning on making furs or features on that?

[MarciahL]

This looks really great, love it m8

[Thyriax]

Yeah! really good work! :thumbsup:

[Gadzooks]

Amazing! Keep Going.

[JimPanse]

Wow... great concept and modeling.

It's already very detailed... no need to do a lot z-brushing I guess :)

The only thing i can critique so far is that it would be very tedious to setup your character for animation. There are a lot of points to weight.




Great work man!

[Zerafian]

Lovin the concept..its original and not seen at all really on Cgtalk. With the SSS I wouldnt suggest making the beak that pinkish tone. I would get it to be the color of the beak a little more. Looks like a tan or light bahge.

[droarty]

looks fantastic so far..


cant wait to see the finished product.

[droarty]

u planning on using any feathers eventually?

[XTitan]

AMAZING!!! Very beautiful work, very good anatomy :) . As for feathers, I would leave it mostly featherless with a few random feathers here and there. Again, amazing work, both the model and the concept art. Keep it up I look forward to seeing where this goes :)

[agasco]

whats up man, looking real good ! i like the design and the anatomy work

keep it up!

[stabbington]

looks beautiful, if that's the right word ; )

[gatorji]

Great job on the model..you have come a long way. looks really good....

btw...is it a chicken or a rooster??? (inside joke)

- from the guys in the corner

[slice56]

great looking model so far, jelmer! :thumbsup:

been a while....you were on the Over the Top MOD, right? hehe, whats up! :D

keep it up!

Dave

[mesklil77]

good modeling...:drool:

[JBoskma]

wow thanks guys. I'm planning to fnish the legs this weekend.

J.Gaeta: Talking about good eye. You are totaly right about the armpit, it's looking a bit wonky. Thanks man.

Rjays: Thanks for the kind words :) I'm planning on using xsi hair to give him short hair, something that looks like goosebumped armhair. In the neck for sure, and on some other places. No feather probably.

Jimpanse: Thanks! I'm not planning to use this character for animation, but I've already trown in a simple rig + weight setup, to pose him a bit. You are right btw, it is a hell of a job if you want to do this for animation purposes.

Agasco: Hey man, how are you doing? Good probably, your reel was awesome. Thanks btw!

Slice56: Hey man, long time no see. I think it's the Organized Crime mod, you were working on with me. Thanks for your reply, still at rockstar I see, keep it up my friend!

[metamesh]

haha that´s looking very nice man, keep posting! i haven´t read the whole thread, what software are u using?
btw that render with sss looks familiar :)

take care

[learner88]

nice bird!is that mental ray?

i really like the sketches!waiting updates!

[joel3d]

I've been studying different shaved animals that normally have feathers or fur and I've been really inspired. Sometimes the coolest musculature is hidden by a lot of fluff.

:hmm: Where do you get shaved animals?.......

Hey! pretty neat, Turkey monster.....nice. Looking forword to your progress. I don't see why you couldn't animate it, its not that hirez...Umm, yet.

Good luck, I gave your thread 5 stars.

[WhiteLynx]

fantastic!!
very cool concept!

[JSlotosch]

hehe, really nice model, looking forward to see the textured model! :)
Greeting,
FHawk

PS:
Do you use max?

[3mm]

wow

look's great.

looking forward for final ver.:thumbsup:


keep it up.

[JBoskma]

Metamesh: Thanks man, I'm using softimage xsi :) And yeah, that sss render was totaly inspired on your new splash page. Glad you like it, your work is awesome.

Learner86: That is indeed mental ray. It's the standard softimage renderer.

FlyingHawk: I've used max before I went to school, here they learned me to work with XSI, and I will never go back, if possible. I prefer XSI now above max, it's a bit faster, easier and stronger in my opinion.

Thanks for the kind words people!

[learner88]

Learner86: That is indeed mental ray. It's the standard softimage renderer.


Right..mental ray became the standard xsi renderer since v5.0 didn't it?

I hope autodesk will do something like that with maya too.

Waiting for udates!

[characteriZZation]

great modelling, looks awesome,love the use so SSS,waiting to see your demo reel man

[TimMehmet]

Superb modeling! you VFS guys are on CG steroids or something arent you?
Can you tell us a bit about your modeling method, do you model the base at a slightly lower rez, and then subdivide it and work in the detail and tweak the topology. Or do you really just model poly by poly at that high a rez? :eek:
Cheers

[lordsol]

what can i say, this is very cool dude. i think your reel is gonna rock. not only you have enough skills, the artistic talent flow naturally by your veins. the concept is just amazing.

[rasmusW]

hey JBoskma!

very nice model and concept. think it's already got a good chicken-feel:) to it.
actually just saving my seat for the show.

-r

[wizzi]

Great model, I like it! Can't wait to see it moving!
What kind of texture are you considering - feathers or skin with some hair?

[fiftyfive]

Your chicken creature is coming along very nice so far jelmer nothing obvious to crit so far, just keep progressing and i bet you can finish him in the next few weeks, keep it up man.

[jjcoolio]

Design, model everyhting looks great, keep up the good work!

[JBoskma]

Thanks for all the kind replies people :beer:

-Kjaxx: thanks man. As stated earlier. I was heavily inspired by the gorgeous work of metamesh :) Credit to him.

- Mad|Dawg: About my modeling method. I model poly by poly. I think some people like to call it patch-modeling. I didn't subdivide, I build most of the geometry by extruding edges and creating polygons. Then I come back in later in some areas to clean things up or cut in the additional details, needed.

- Wizzi: No feathers. Just gross bumpy chicken skin and a lot of folds here and there.

The legs and additional modeling took a little longer then expected. Got basicly everything there now. Almost ready to get this guy unwrapped! (garrrgh) Here's a little update, C&C much appreciated!

Edit: Alterations made: update below

[JBoskma]

Posted the wrong images, sorry for that. Edited the post above.

[learner88]

very good!I like the "shilouette".Now show us anoter great render with sss shader!

[rasmusW]

hey jboskma!

great update! -think the feet looks really good. great sense of weight and form.

-keep up the good work.

[dmc3d]

What say about yours skill. Is glad to have you as my classmatte and your talent is going to give a good future for sure. This creature looks so good and i know when you finish is going to be one of the best reels.
thanks for you help me dude.

[JBoskma]

Thanks guys. I've altered quite a few things today. Changes made:
- Shortened legs
- Thickened up the legs
- Moved knees a bit
- Squashed feet height
- gave some parts a fleshier feeling.
- Made the for and lower arms a bit longer

Right now I feel I'm done with the geometry, and that I'm ready to unwrap my creature. I've also worked on a lighting setup a little today. Here are the updated shots.

http://jelmer.keurigonline.nl/fullbody_chick1b.jpg


http://jelmer.keurigonline.nl/fullbody_chick2b.jpg

http://jelmer.keurigonline.nl/galina_in_room.jpg

[fabianloing]

Great character you got there!
very nicely modeled!

-Fab

[ErikSvensson]

Totally stunning work there. You really nailed an interesting character, looking forward to see the textured one. No crits from me. Good job!

Erik

[BlackNull]

very original design and top notch modeling! The crease on the thigh is a bit much for me but I can feel some really nice weight on this model. I can almost picture it with textures, Keep us updated on your progress :thumbsup:

pierre

[3DBradley]

Nice work J. Glad to see such great work to still be coming from VFS. Top Notch for sure.:buttrock:

Keep it up.

Cheers

Adam

P.S. what term are you in and can you give us a taste of what you would like to add to your reel?

[JBoskma]

=BlackNull=: Hey man, thanks! You're right about the crease, but I think it'll look a lot softer once the bumpmap breaks up the light a bit :)

3DBradley: I'm in term 4 right now. Still 2 terms to go after this. This is my first demo reel character, which is called the secondary model, because mostly people improve a lot while working on their reels. So good chance that models after this will be a bit better. For a taste what I'll be adding to my reel, I can give you a preview of my project after this.
It's a humanoid character, which i call homo predatorus. Where we are homo sapiens, the thinking man, this is the killing man. I kinda combined gorilla and baboon features with a human, to create this. I noticed while working on this creature, that it's possible to improve to concept and add a lot of cool stuff along the way, hopefully that will happen to this one too. Here's the concept work that I've done so far:

http://jelmer.keurigonline.nl/profile_final_D5.jpg

http://jelmer.keurigonline.nl/human_all.jpg


This is a photoshop collage, made from a human skull and a gorilla skull.
http://jelmer.keurigonline.nl/Human/comparision.jpg

[KOKE]

Hey Jelmer, quite a cool chicken u got there :thumbsup: , I can feel ur reel beeing a big hit.

Nice concept design too.

Keep the good work man.

:D

JK.

[chiquiflita]

This is looking sweet!! I cant wait to see it textured. Really good keep up the good work mr.
The next guy looks good it will prob end up looking awsome too. Very good work man im proud of you!!

[JBoskma]

Thanks guys :) The unwrapping went faster then I thought. Got it done in 1.5 day. I got it down into 4 maps:
- Fleshy parts (4000x4000 px)
- Boney parts (2000x2000 px)
- Slimey parts (1000x1000 px)
- Eyeballs (512x512 px)

Here's the result:
http://jelmer.keurigonline.nl/chicken_mapped.jpg
http://jelmer.keurigonline.nl/chicken_maps.jpg

[bardur]

all your images are down!?

and btw.. SUPERB WORK!.. magnificent!:drool:


Regards
Bardur

[JBoskma]

I've noticed that as well, appearantly cgtalk is replacing the * wave thingy (close to your 1 button) with a star *. Messing up the urls. I've reuploaded them somewhere else. Should be fine now. thanks!

[JBoskma]

I've started the bumpmap today. Still lot's to add, but here's a preview. Haven't touched the upper beak and mouthbag yet. Showing that I'm not slacking off. C&C welcome!
http://jelmer.keurigonline.nl/bump_test1.jpg

[LordMcGoat]

This is one of the most interesting designs I've seen on here for a while, and such a simple concept. Solid modelling mate.

I think a huge pair of tits and a gun would round it all off nicely, though.

[bardur]

thats extremly good and cool model you got there!..
:eek:
and also the consept/design.. is FANTASTIC!

Regards
Bardur

[MVDB]

fantastic model!
Just keep working and pushing the level, set the bar high and make us :drool:

[MuhammadAzam]

Incredible...

That is some very high quality work there, feels very life-like.

- Muhammad

[shivesh]

wow, nice work ., keep it up.

[BicKet]

Great work :drool: Soo good, nothing to say exept thanks for sharing your experience.
Hope to be one time, half of your talent :cry:

[JBoskma]

Thanks for the heads up guys :). Here's an update. Been working a bit more on the bumpmap. Added some little hairs to break up the silhouette a bit. Beak looks to rock-like, will work on that. Planning to finish everything in a week now. Hopefully I get it all done.
http://jelmer.keurigonline.nl/hair_bump_almostthere.jpg

[almaghool]

Woooow :eek:


great work man :applause:

i like it :thumbsup:

[Giom]

Not quite in to creatures. But your work and skill is nothing short of brilliant!

[ced66]

i prefered before... it's quite flat for me... maybe the displacement pass needs some improvement

but your work is amazing

keep it up :)

[Intervain]

It's turining out so sweet!!! :D I love that idea!

btw. have u used a cassawary as reference at all? Reminds me of one a lot as far as the head's concerned and I thought you might want to reference them for your bump as well as the condor :) Just a thought. Keep up the good work J. :arteest:

[qwed88]

Great stuff!, -the upper beek has a clear distinction where the beek meets the flesh, but the lower does'nt. (eagles have this seperation, but your creature may not) just a thought.

[fiftyfive]

Its to bad you moved your stuff off the vfs server now i cant see it from the safty and sanctity of my workstation :(

[JBoskma]

ced66: Thanks I think you were right that it looked a bit flat. I think it was mainly the lighting playing part in that. I've altered the lights a bit, trying to do the volume more justice. I'm not using displacement maps btw. Just bump.

Intervain: Hey you! Never saw those birds, googled em up. Awesome. Might use them for color reference. Thanks for your reply girl :)

qwed88: You're right. I want the skin to slightly get thinner as it wraps on to the beak. I had a hard time achieving this with bump. If I decide to give this guy color, it will be obvious. If you are curious, google up maribou storks. That's what I'm going for.

Fiftyfive: Couldn't help it buddy.. Cgtalk converts our ~ icon into a *, messing up the urls. I think it's fixed now though. Gonna give it a try :)

Here's the 'finished' bumpmap. I'm not sure if I'm going to give this guy color yet. I might rush some color through, or do it later. Anyway, c & c welcome as always

EDIT: update below

[formoso]

nice work on the bumpmap. give it colour.

[stevopolis]

This is outstanding work. NICE!!!

[slice56]

thats looking great, Jelmer! Cant wait to see some vibrant colors make this thing pop like crazy! Keep it up! :thumbsup:

[touNy]

Really, really, really fantastic!

[KC-Joy]

very impressive work, he looks kinda sweet. :)

[JBoskma]

Thanks for all the kind words guys :) I call him done for now. I might do color later after my second demo reel model. Right now I don't think I can make him look much better with color. Render trees freak me out as well, so I'll need to get a bit more confident first. c & c still welcome ofcourse, thanks again! (minor changes, beak / legs)

http://student.vfs.com/~3d58jelmer/Chicken/chicken_final.jpg

http://student.vfs.com/~3d58jelmer/Chicken/head_final.jpg

http://student.vfs.com/~3d58jelmer/Chicken/chicken_final_wire.jpg

[grafi]

Looks great! Man, I can't wait to go to VFS.
keep it up :thumbsup:

[Loewi]

Looking really good Jelmer, i still think you should give it a shot at coloring him, it's not like your painting skills aren't up to the task.

And there are more than enough people around to give you help with the render tree, it's definetly worth taking a closer look, cause if you combine artistic skill like your's with technical knowledge on shaders, it'll become better than you can imagine.

[Zyandric]

Wow.....This model is looking marvelous Jelmer. I think it's awesome that you can create a concept and produce an exact model from that concept. The detailed anatomical structure is really working........ Textures can make or break a model, but you're a very talented artist. I'd give a swing at it if you have the time....Keep it up man

[Heber]

nice concept and execution im digging the design it reminds me of the chocobos from final fantasy
Will have to keep an eye out for more work from you.

[piajartist]

another great sample coming out of VFS! Keep it Up:buttrock:

[dmc3d]

Hey Helmer

How i sad to you , looks soo great man, and in this stage looks very realystic for me.You can colorize him later if you want.
Great job dude, another very solid VFS modelling reel is coming.

Cheers

Daniel

[SUS]

Sweet character! it has a soul!

Keep with the great work!

[joel3d]

Very nice! looks like you've done a good job the UV layout...???
Definitely needs the other textures. take it to next level!

[yolao]

wonderful work Jelmer!!

can you tell me if you work all the skin detail in zbrush as a highpoly mesh and then you use the displacement map as a bump map in XSI?...or you use the bump map material in zbrush to add the skin detail?

thanks

[Texlon]

Incredible detailed and awesome concept design. The bump maps add alot to the "realism" of the concept and make it very believable.
I would love to know how you were able to use serveral maps in combination with zbrush. I have a few models that I want to detail in zbrush but one map, even at 4kx4k is not enough for me. I wonder how you manage to get good blendings/transitions between the different maps. Could you give me a brief explaination of the process? Would be great.

Cheers,
Leon

[D-E-A-N]

great character, so much detail. :thumbsup:

[JBoskma]

Texlon: I've just used the projection master in ZBrush. Allthough I use different maps, the model is still one piece. I just stamp the skin texture on it, and blur it a bit. Works fine, and no seams :)
yolao: I've used no displacement maps. This is just the bump map you're seeing. It's not a high poly mesh but an exported texture image.

Forgot to show these. Head concepts, for those interested :) Thanks everybody!

http://student.vfs.com/~3d58jelmer/Chicken/finalsky.jpg

http://student.vfs.com/~3d58jelmer/Chicken/head_concepts.jpg

[J.Gaeta]

Hands down, this model rocks!! You did a fantastic job on this one, and your next will be even better. Color or not, you have to feel satisfied with what you've finished. Keep it up man.

[KOKE]

Man u need some color on this, it would look so much better (and right now its looking kick ass).

Congrats.

:beer:

JK.

[whiplash]

Cool concept...Would love to see you attack the textures!

What lighting setup are you using.. and what renderer?

[Milivoj-Lemonade3D]

great work!VFS quality :)

[Darkhorse3d]

Nice job! your translation from concept to 3d is on target!

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