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Diamant
12-21-2002, 08:41 AM
well yet another Outlaw girl. Let me know what you think.. Sorry for the big image I just didn't want to lose any detail. I have to give much credit and a big thanks to Murad Ainuddin for creating a beautiful texture for this girl. In my opinion anyway :) hope you all like!

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/spyder7479/bigimages/harvest.jpg

Diamant
12-21-2002, 08:42 AM
wireframe and all that....

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/spyder7479/bigimages/harvestwire.jpg

KiboOst
12-21-2002, 09:27 AM
Yeah looks really good !! I love this wear !!!
Maybe the feets could have more work/polys ?

Kib

minyusf
12-21-2002, 11:10 AM
it's a really nice model, but the hair need more layers

sumpm1
12-21-2002, 12:08 PM
You don't need any advice from me, thats for sure. Love all of your work. Just wondered if she was playing in an air conditioned court? Greater than 1500 polys like your last model?

Tolerate
12-21-2002, 12:10 PM
you appear to have nailed the wet t-shirt look, you must have looked at a lot of reference pics to get that right hehe

Diamant
12-21-2002, 01:24 PM
Kib.. remember this is an in game model.. and for volleyball...which is played in the sand... so there really wasn't too much need to make good feet since you dont really see them ya know.. but you are right...they are not "great" by any means..

minyusf.....the hair...still kinda being worked on..hair is never an easy thing to do.. i'll see if adding more layers helps the situation any.


poly count on her is around 16k like the others.

Titan
12-21-2002, 01:34 PM
DAMN DUDE!!!

thats sweet, as usual!!!

I forget...is this an Xb0x or PS2 gme...and whats the policy on the adult content....?

ALso..is the wet Tee-shirt look just a simple painted map or is there something else going on there?

Excellent, love it!!!

g3n
12-21-2002, 02:37 PM
nice work as usual :thumbsup:

Mikademius
12-21-2002, 02:50 PM
The wet T-shirt look is awsome. How did you do that?

kwshipman
12-21-2002, 04:20 PM
Yet another great model! Although there is something about the face that I don't like too much, nothing wrong with it, just not a girl I would go after.

What are the sizes of the textures used for these models? What Program do you use to make the models?

As soon as I am done with school I am deffanatly applying for your studio, even though you are clear accross the country.

Cant wait for this game!:bounce:

Airflow
12-21-2002, 05:03 PM
Nice work, sort the feet out.. And how the hell did they aprove of the nipples in a computer game???.

tkay
12-21-2002, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by Airflow
Nice work, sort the feet out.. And how the hell did they aprove of the nipples in a computer game???.

...which, BTW, are too small imho... ;)

Chappo
12-21-2002, 06:34 PM
When youre drunk..... the image looks kinda like britney spears ;) hahahah


Anyway.... cool job on the wet-t-shirt ! :)

lerpiedood
12-21-2002, 08:47 PM
Woah! Amazing! Just llike all the other OV girls. It's amazing that this is a model for a game, technology these days just keeps on evolving. Too bad it has to be Microsoft :(. I played Outlaw Golf and the models were quite good, did you make those as well?

Diamant
12-21-2002, 08:48 PM
Titan- the game is for xbox first and later ps2. as far as the policy on adult content is concerned... that is a hard one to answer. with all the new games coming out with adult content, more things are starting to become acceptable. we dont plan on having nudity in the game when you buy it.. but it is certainly possible to have it as a download since this game will be XBL. I actually have this girl naked since they were all built that way... i would have posted that but i thought it would be a tad tasteless :) the wet tee shirt is a map thats painted onto the clothing geometry. nothing really crazy or different going on there. I'm glad you like it :)

Mikademius- just a map on geometry man :)

Kwshipman- there are 3 textures being used. a 256x256 map for the head.. 512x512 for the body.. and a 256x256 for the clothing. The model was made in maya.

Airflow- umm...I just made the nipples...honestly...i dont know if its been approved yet or not :) anything can change.. with outlaw golf things got cut pretty much a month before it was done because it was "too much"... so you never know :)

Lerpiedood- I made a little more then half of the models in Golf. both strippers, ice trey, fresh fruit, CC, heavy G, Harley, Snake, umm....i'm forgetting now :)

wanzai
12-21-2002, 09:04 PM
Great job, Diamant! And be sure to pass the compliment to your texture buddy Murad Ainuddin.

How long did it take you to model a character of this quality? (I'm a little surprised that this hasn't been asked already). And the release seems to be soon? I'm just wondering since you're publicizing this here, which gives me an off-press impression (don't know if my last sentence makes sense in English...)

Anyways, keep on the good work!
:D

teddy_yu
12-22-2002, 02:04 AM
up up up

Diamant
12-22-2002, 03:49 AM
wanzai- suprisingly i dont think anyone has asked that before... your right... anyway.. characters like these take me about 4 to 5 days to make. girls i try to take a little more time on since they get the most critisism from everyone at the office. i normally spend about 2 days on the head...1 or 2 on the body...and a day on the hair.. guys normally take only 3 days since people are less critical. bear in mind some of that time is spent on making subtle changes other people gave input on... the release of OV will probably be around this june.. the game has been getting some publicity.. it was in the most recent official xbox magazine...on a bunch of different game websites.. i dont post these characters to get people excited about the game.. honestly i just post these because i want to get better myself and i really need to hear peoples opinions that are also into cg. there are so many good people on these boards and the more feedback you get the better. I hope that kinda answers your question. and thanks for the compliments.

-Rich

jfalconer
12-22-2002, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by kwshipman
Yet another great model! Although there is something about the face that I don't like too much, nothing wrong with it, just not a girl I would go after.

I'm with kwshipman on this one. Its not that the face isn't well-modelled, but with a face like this it doesn't matter how wet her tshirt is. But this is probably my bias, since I've already seen some screens from that DOA volleyball game.

*edit* actually on second inspection what I find less appealing is not the face but the expressions on the face.

Thank you for posting and for your info! :buttrock:

QuantumPixel
12-22-2002, 07:41 AM
hey plan on making some porn or well soft core sexy animation that rilly makes the mind wonder. that nice silky smooth T-shirt who weee

www.boygonemad.com

facial
12-22-2002, 11:25 AM
Well done, :love:

wanzai
12-22-2002, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by Diamant
i dont post these characters to get people excited about the game..

That wasn't why I asked....


honestly i just post these because i want to get better myself and i really need to hear peoples opinions that are also into cg. there are so many good people on these boards and the more feedback you get the better

...and I definitely understand you fully. In fact, I can relay to that very well! I also want to have c&c's on my office works from all the amazing artists here, but am not allowed to... yet, since we haven't gone public yet.

Originally posted by jfalconer
Its not that the face isn't well-modelled, but with a face like this it doesn't matter how wet her tshirt is.


Well said :D

Diamant
12-22-2002, 07:33 PM
wow....well...i'm starting to get the feeling that people dont like her face to much... hmm.... i kinda thought she was a cutie.. guess thats my biased opinion then.. oh well..can't make everyone happy.. thus another reason why women are so much harder to model :) well...if anyone has any suggestions i'd love to hear them..

qu2k
12-22-2002, 08:07 PM
posting that would in no way at all be tasteless :p

The Magic Pen
12-22-2002, 08:12 PM
You rock diamant !!! Would love to see what you could do without constraints of a game engine !! Any chance to see anims for these characters?? I mean it would be awesome to see the rigging in action !! :love:

Eclipse
12-22-2002, 08:30 PM
Good, really good. I like thet girl more than the other OV girl, but why don't you dress her in a bathing suit ?

Diamant
12-23-2002, 03:02 AM
qu2k... i think if i posted the naked version i could actually get in trouble by the publishers :) i'll see if i can...but i doubt it..sorry :)

magic pen- hopefully soon we will have some movies up with them all moving... the thing that kind of sucks is that there are bone limits with our game.. there are not enough joints to really get full range of everything.. we lost most on the fingers and feet.. not to mention we can't use any flexors or influence objects since the engine doesn't support it..that makes it hard to get realistic deformation on say the legs and arms.. unfortunetly it just wont be as perfect as i'd like it to be... but that is the nature of the game.. to try to make it look the best with all the constraints. I'm working on a couple things on my own now with no limits... unfortunetly its not a girl. i kinda want to broaden my skills and not limit myself to just making women... i've made too many recently that i'm starting to get sick of them :) hehe .. right now i'm working on an elf warrior that i plan on posting when its finished.. it is just taking me a long time since the only time i really get to work on it is after work and the weekends...hopefully somewhat soon i will have something to show though..

eclipse- there are other outfits that she has... i just figured most people would get a kick out of this one :) i kinda like her more then the other OV girl too....but it seems a bunch of people are having some issues with her face not being as pretty... oh well :)

thanks for the compliments though...keep the crits comin!

Titan
12-23-2002, 07:13 AM
thanks for the reply earlier up...

how much are you allowed to show without getting into trouble..I know several companies that would have fired someone for showing models in this way for an unreleased project....

I guess I could be wrong, but it seems that most companies frown on this type of posting...

Diamant
12-23-2002, 01:53 PM
good question titan...honestly...i dont know the answer to that.. what i have shown is probably too much...however, we've been posting this stuff on our site pretty much anyway...so i'm sure its alright...any attention to this game anyway helps....it certainly doesn't hurt.. but to make my life easier...i guess i'd say dont spread this around the net...keep it here...then i wont get fired :)

Flog
12-24-2002, 03:20 AM
wow!!!

kydjester
12-24-2002, 03:52 AM
Diamant : I am nosy an young !

How much do you get paid ?

Titan
12-24-2002, 04:13 AM
whats the official site? I wouldnt mind taking a look..

Lunatique
12-24-2002, 04:31 AM
Her head seems too big for her body. Her hands seem too small .

I agree that her face is kinda wonky looking. She reminds me a bit of a porn actress. One mistake I see all the time by people trying to make a beautiful female face is not paying attention to the Zygomaticus Major. Having it pronounced in the wrong way would immediately take away the level of attractiveness. Also, watch out how dark you make the area around the eyes. There's looking like you had the "smoky" makeup style applied, and then there's the "I'm a crack whore" look. You cross that fine line and you end up with a crack whore instead of a sexy seductress. All artists trying to make attractive females need to study how cosmetics work its magic. Get a book on the art of applying makeup, or better yet, take some lessons in the art of makeup. My wife owns a cosmetic shop and used to own a beauty parlor. You'd be shocked to find out just how ignorant most women are about what to do to make themselves look prettier. If women can't even do it well, how can men??

Creating beautiful women requires the utmost level of sensitivity and subtle perception. It's an artform in itself, and if one does not study it like a seperate artform, one will not succeed at it. Why does Stahlberg kick ass at it? He does because he understands all of this stuff(we've had long discussions about beauty at another art forum).

Dead or Alive Extreme Beach Volleyball is the direct competitior of Outlaw Volleyball. And if all the response I've seen online is any indication, DOAXBV will be the winner. Why? It's all about the cute girls.

Tecmo really understands the underlining psychology of the human being's aesthetic perception. It's not all art--it's a science as well. People responds to facial features and body shape in a very primal, specific way--beyond what our immediate enviroment and the media dictates. There's a certain "Law of the Average" that's deeply rooted in our aesthetic perception. True, people do have individual taste as well, but public polls by scientists and psychologists don't lie--we ARE wired in a similar way when it comes to perceiving beauty.

The DOA girls take advange of the "Law of Average" very well. The popularity of the DOA franchise is a testament to that(and no, the bouncing is only but part of the equation. Plenty of other games tried to sell with sex, and completely tanked).

Diamant--I'm only saying this as a reminder that if Outlaw Volleyball wants to win, you guys still have some work to do.

Eclipse
12-24-2002, 03:05 PM
Diamant, can you tell me if this game will be released for XBox only or there will be a PC or PS2 version ?

Diamant
12-24-2002, 09:08 PM
kydjester.... i make enough :) sorry, can't say on this :)

titan... go to hypnotix.com


lunatique.. well.. i will certainly look into the head being too small...you are right about the hands...they are a tad too small, i've known this for a while, just was too far down the production line to change it.. well....its pretty obvious that you dont like the model too much.. and the fact that you brought up DOA makes me believe you prefer that style over this anyway.. and that is fine.. now you say that the girls have a "crack whore" look...well... outlaw volleyball is supposed to be made up of girls who have that look..or who are a little skanky... so i guess if you say that i did a good job.. i realize creating beauty requires the utmost level of sensitivity and subleness.. but realize.. these girls were not created to be the most beautiful girls in the world.. they aren't supposed to be the ideal woman.. they are supposed to have some attitude and be more like real world women... and real world women do have flaws...which i'm sure you understand.. so while i do take your crit to heart, i dont neccessarily agree with you when you say these girls have to be perfect in every way.. remember..i didn't design the characters...i was told...make this.. and the boss was the one who approves it and has his "vision"... i realize we are competing with DOA... and honestly...they probably will win.. they are much bigger then we are and have much more experience.. realize too that these are completely different games.. and all this "who has hotter chics" is created by the people...not us.. we had no intention of going smack up against them in a fight for the hottest chics.. we just made the game we set out to make...we had this volleyball idea way before they did...it was just put on hold for a little..now everyone thinks we copied them.. ...anyway..thanks for the crit...i dont mind if you have specific things that you find wrong with the characters..or your opinions on whether or not they are hot... but please...dont start a who's hotter thread on this... i'm just posting my work here to hear what people think about it and to get help in any areas i can.. not to promote OV and get everyone to like the game more then DOA... i hope you understand where i'm coming from....

eclipse... the game will be realsed first on xbox... then on ps2 after...i can't say how long after..could be up to 6 months after the xbox release..

Stygian
12-24-2002, 11:40 PM
Impressive work :applause:
I think I know what is throwing the face off a bit but I can't tell if its shadow or part of your texture. Its the dark line around the bottom of the eye if its "make up" it seems abit heavy if its shadow ??? but the 3rd pose where she has her eyes closed is beautiful. :eek:

jasonjart
12-25-2002, 01:41 AM
Everyone has their favorite style of girl. I believe some people will like the girls you made. Some people will like DOA's girls. I know the character's design is not your design.
I just want to say your character set is wonderful and perfect.
I still prefer DOA but it's a great job in your area.


Originally posted by Diamant
kydjester.... i make enough :) sorry, can't say on this :)

titan... go to hypnotix.com


lunatique.. well.. i will certainly look into the head being too small...you are right about the hands...they are a tad too small, i've known this for a while, just was too far down the production line to change it.. well....its pretty obvious that you dont like the model too much.. and the fact that you brought up DOA makes me believe you prefer that style over this anyway.. and that is fine.. now you say that the girls have a "crack whore" look...well... outlaw volleyball is supposed to be made up of girls who have that look..or who are a little skanky... so i guess if you say that i did a good job.. i realize creating beauty requires the utmost level of sensitivity and subleness.. but realize.. these girls were not created to be the most beautiful girls in the world.. they aren't supposed to be the ideal woman.. they are supposed to have some attitude and be more like real world women... and real world women do have flaws...which i'm sure you understand.. so while i do take your crit to heart, i dont neccessarily agree with you when you say these girls have to be perfect in every way.. remember..i didn't design the characters...i was told...make this.. and the boss was the one who approves it and has his "vision"... i realize we are competing with DOA... and honestly...they probably will win.. they are much bigger then we are and have much more experience.. realize too that these are completely different games.. and all this "who has hotter chics" is created by the people...not us.. we had no intention of going smack up against them in a fight for the hottest chics.. we just made the game we set out to make...we had this volleyball idea way before they did...it was just put on hold for a little..now everyone thinks we copied them.. ...anyway..thanks for the crit...i dont mind if you have specific things that you find wrong with the characters..or your opinions on whether or not they are hot... but please...dont start a who's hotter thread on this... i'm just posting my work here to hear what people think about it and to get help in any areas i can.. not to promote OV and get everyone to like the game more then DOA... i hope you understand where i'm coming from....

eclipse... the game will be realsed first on xbox... then on ps2 after...i can't say how long after..could be up to 6 months after the xbox release..

CroitiX
12-25-2002, 03:45 AM
http://www.digital-evo.com/kk/hit.gif

hehehe no seriously, i think your pic looks really well!!!
:thumbsup: well done

Lunatique
12-25-2002, 03:46 AM
Diamant-- Sorry about the DOA comparison. I wasn't aware that the girls of Outlaw Volleyball weren't supposed to be pretty/cute...etc. I was under the impression you guys were trying to outdo Tecmo. Now that I understand the girls are supposed to have that "skanky" look, I apologize.

Eclipse
12-25-2002, 04:17 PM
Diamont, what about PC release ?

Diamant
12-26-2002, 02:45 AM
well thanks for the responses. Lunatique.. no need to apologize. everyone has thier opinions.. eclipse... as of now there is no talk about a pc release.. although i do believe it would be fairly easy to port it to pc, we dont have any plans as of now to do so.. if you reaaally want it on pc...i would have to say go to our website and bug the hell out of my boss...go to the forums..he is on it all day long... maybe you will have some luck...ya never know :)

criterion411
12-28-2002, 09:09 AM
hey Diamant, really awesome work! I for one think she looks pretty damn cute in the second and third pictures...there's just something about her expression in the first pic that's a bit unsettling - I think it might be something in the eyes. maybe if her eyes were opened a bit wider in the first shot she'd have less of a sour expression. on another note, I wouldn't worry too much about the feet but if you could get some more layers in the hair it would be nice - dig the hairstyle though.

otherwise, I absolutely LOVE the wet t-shirt and am praying to the gaming gods that you're allowed to ship the game with nipples intact. if not, you definitely have to make the nipple-t available from xbox live.

now, can the characters swap outfits in the game? I saw your pic of Summer (I believe) from an earlier post (she reminded me of Rebecca Romijn-Stamos) and am real curious how she'd look prancing around in a similar getup. can you post some wet-t pics of her? excellent work, keep at it!

P.S. would like to see how the bare models look as well - for educational purposes - and if the guys upstairs yell at you that would be kinda odd given that we already saw the new girl's "tatas" anyway.

Spliff_Richards
12-28-2002, 09:16 AM
I love the wet part of the t-shirt. Really sexy

Diamant
12-28-2002, 09:35 PM
criterion- i know what you mean by the first one...i was kinda going for the sour look on that.. i wanted to show that she had some kind of attitude problem or whatnot... i just wanted to get away from the same boring poses...guess it just didn't work as well as i hoped :) i'm kinda hoping the wet tee shirt will stay in...just like i said, let things be...dont go spreading it around the net that its a possibility... hopefully if nobody says anything it will just happen :) keep prayin! as far as the swaping of outfits go... you can't swap outfits between players.. but each player will have different outfits that you can wear between them...so sorry, i dont think your gonna see summer in this outfit..it would be nice though.. this is definetly one of my favorite ones.. as of now there is no wet tee shirt for her.. i'm not sure if we are going to do one for everyone or not.. hopefully later we will... i know a bunch of you would love to see the nude versions...for education of course :) i honestly dont know if i can do that yet... i will have to discuss that with some people.. it might be a bad thing.. we will see.. remember..i dont think i was really supposed to post this one...so who knows how legal this was :) anyway, thanks for the compliments.
-Rich

kwshipman
12-28-2002, 11:13 PM
hey Diamant, I have an idea for you guys. Strip voleyball!

You can have all of the charectors start off fully dressed, and everytime they get scorred on they loose something. Your animators could come up with some pretty cool cut scenes of them taking it off. LOL

I know that it will never happen but hey, it would be funn. or maybe my cold is affecting my brain more than I thought...where is my dayquill.........

sumpm1
12-29-2002, 04:24 PM
Diamant

I think that everyone just has a problem with the expression on the picture of the first pose, you don't see any of those effects in any of the other poses.

Eclipse
12-29-2002, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by kwshipman
hey Diamant, I have an idea for you guys. Strip voleyball!

You can have all of the charectors start off fully dressed, and everytime they get scorred on they loose something. Your animators could come up with some pretty cool cut scenes of them taking it off. LOL

I agree !!! :thumbsup:

criterion411
12-29-2002, 08:43 PM
Diamant,
ha, about that strip-volleyball idea - I second that request. you could even make it a downloadable game-type option through Xbox Live in the same way Mechassault is doing w/ the new multiplayer modes to be made available.

after the game comes out it would be awesome if you could even release a "naughty pack" for download w/ tons of crazy funny/adult-themed outfits like: 1. characters wear only band-aids, 2. whipped-cream that eventually falls off, 3. some humorous bondage-gear, 4. nothing on but bunny ears, bunny feet, and one of those bunny tails that tie around the waist... I could go on all day w/these.

anyway, if the popularity of the Grand Theft Auto games shows anything it's that there's definitely a HUGE market for more adult-themed game product. try and bug the hell out of your co-workers - even if you can't get these ideas into the retail version, I'm sure there are a TON of people out there who'd be very willing to pay a little extra $$ to download 'em w/ Xbox live. that would mean HUGE extra cash for your company, more demand for the game, + no probs w/ selling it at retail.

just my 2 cents

Diamant
12-30-2002, 12:19 AM
kwshipman- very fun man.. i really like that idea.. i will definetly bring it up and see what they think.. the only problem i see is that most people have only 1 or two articles of clothing on...so after the first point they will be nude :) and there is no time left to make all new outfits...just takes too long...who knows though..maybe we can see if it can be some kind of downloadable thing...i know there are plans for certain "packs" to download... i'm not sure if it will cost money.. i know a while ago there was talks that it might be like a 5 dollar thing or whatever..but who knows..every day things change around here.. i'll keep you updated if this post is still around after i talk to them... i'm on "vacation" this week so i wont be able to bring it up til next week..

Sgt.Pepper
01-02-2003, 10:42 PM
How ever do this game run smoothly even on a xbox, the highest polycount i've heard of on the xbox is like 8k / character.
I study gamedesign right now, we try to keep our characters under 1,5k, this here aint even close to low-poly =)

Matt
01-02-2003, 10:57 PM
Chrissy from Three's Company!

Diamant
01-03-2003, 12:59 AM
Sgt. Pepper-- well i dont know where you study gamedesign right now... but i'll tell you, obviously from experience, that 8k is not alot of polygons today. almost all fighting games have many more then 8k poly's to them.. dead of alive 3 for xbox i believe was around 20k poly's each.. xbox handles it fine without a problem.. and bear in mind.. there are LOD's when the characters are far away.. so we aren't drawing this many polygons all the time.. if you've worked with the xbox hardware you would know what its capable of...its a pretty powerful machine. so are the next generation graphic cards.. i'm sure you realize that computers and graphic cards are becoming more and more powerful. soon i'm sure the characters for this game will be concidered low when compared with all the new games coming out.. its a bright future.. i know i'm lookin forward to it :) and trust me.... the 1.5k characters are a thing of the past.. i'd start modelin a bit higher if i were you :) just my 2 cents

Akildee
01-03-2003, 03:30 AM
I think that everyone is right about the first pic of the girl. Her face is looking very harsh. I think overall if you just soften her features(more so with the map than the geometry) then she would look better. Also, you may want to make her arms slightly longer and slightly thinner. Just slightly. It would make her look more super heroish and less baby like. Especially around the shoulder where the breast rounds into the deltoid.

overall I think the character is great. She's not super cute but she is cute(I think people are overeacting about her looks). The wet T shirt is fenomenal. I can't believe that's just a texture map. We have an X-box at my house so I can't wait to check it out. Keep up the good work!

akil

twidup
01-03-2003, 04:44 AM
Diamant is right, I am currently working on the mocap for a couple sports games, with real crowds(polygon ppl instead of clip maps) and the actual player character meshes are hitting around 1.5 to 3k polies per figure, now you figure that the average sports have 5 to 11 ppl per side, thats a crap load of polies ont eh screen, and it handles it just fine. DOA was around 20k per figure and Studio Gigante's new fighter game looks even better, heard roughly 25 to 30k per figure and hugely detailed environments.

laters
-Todd

lowpolygon
01-03-2003, 07:24 AM
wow....
excellent model, wet t-shirt is excellent, the onl thing I don't like is the hair. otherwise it awesome...

criterion411
01-18-2003, 08:00 AM
Diamant,
how's it goin in Outlaw Volleyball land? hope the game's coming together well. any chance you might have an update for us sometime soon? any new character models - with or without outfits heh heh :p - would be cool. also curious what your co-workers thought about the strip-volleyball idea. :beer:

Michael Chen
01-18-2003, 09:06 AM
Nice, well modelled. I don't think the hair fits in well (no offense).

Overall I think it's pretty wic :buttrock:

nose
01-18-2003, 12:57 PM
Nice :thumbsup:

kwshipman
01-30-2003, 02:23 AM
@Diamant - Any more updates for us?

@nose - Love you avatar

Diamant
01-30-2003, 04:14 AM
actually kwshipman.. yes...either tommorow or friday teamxbox.com is doing an exclusive interview with us. we also created a 2 min little video with gameplay and a bunch of new courts and graphics not yet seen. it is by no means finished but much further along then before. the video is actually pretty cool to watch too.. if this thread is around and people are interested i will post a link when its finally up for everyone to check out. alot of the work i did for characters/worlds will be shown in the video so i'm pretty happy with those parts finally being able to be shown off a little.. mind you it looks much better on a tv then in a compressed video :) hope you like it when you see it.. and do let me know what you all think..

emilioG
01-30-2003, 05:01 AM
hi everyone.

I'm actually quite confused here. Is this a game model or a cinematic model?

here's why:

if it's a game model: That's an extremely high poly count. I mean, what engine's gonna run that?

if it's a cinematic model: Why not use a hair/cloth plugin?


aaaaah the confusion... shoot me.

Magius
01-30-2003, 06:42 AM
Sexy! :D

Ocean Size
01-30-2003, 07:13 AM
That wet T-Shirt texture is SWEET dude, GREAT job! I like the pigtails style hairdo too, really completes the image ya know.

:bounce:

kwshipman
01-30-2003, 07:42 AM
Emilio this is a game model, arround 15 - 16k polyes, and he has assured us that the X-bax can handle it.

lowpolygon
01-30-2003, 08:36 AM
Emilio : considering this is a beach volley ball game, there aren't much to draw on screen , so poly count will not be a big of a issue here.

cuse
01-30-2003, 09:03 AM
oh dear, thats far too good :)

wet t-shirt fantastico... cant believe i didnt see this earlier, few things to point out but what its meant for, looks fantastic.

nice work!




cuse

Diamant
01-30-2003, 01:57 PM
emilio- this is an in game model.... as kwshipman has said, they are around 15-16k polys.. the xbox can handle this with no problem. it uses a lod system for when they are far and the high ones up close. glad the new guys are likin it! i'll post the link to the new movie when it comes up..hopefully soon!

Carina
01-30-2003, 02:15 PM
It's quite cool, good model and all..

You say you are not going to do any nudity for the game, but you'll struggle to get her playing volley ball without that tiny little slip of a thing she's wearing coming up and displaying her rudey bits...

sad
01-30-2003, 02:49 PM
nice texturing! the toes look a bit funky but nevertheless good modeling. how did you create the texture? really realistic...

emilioG
01-30-2003, 03:03 PM
I've been doing games for 6 years now. And I have to say, if the Xbox can handle it, more power to you guys. Finally some polys can be shot in there.

Still, I see alot of useless polys, which could've easily been put to better use. BUT, none the less, looks good man.

Giddy up!:thumbsup:

dtrimble
01-31-2003, 12:18 PM
I usually do notes on what is bothering me about my own stuff, and have done that on your stuff here. Unfortunately I don't have the full story about these images and haven't seen it moving, so I could be entirely wrong about these things. But nothing in 3d can't be touched up so hopefully I am not entirely full of it.

http://www.geocities.com/xstin2000/notes1.htm

Take care!

Diamant
02-01-2003, 12:00 AM
sad- the textures are just painted...i set up blin materials for the rendering to give it a little specular shine.. thats pretty much it..nothing really too special here..

emilioG .. alot of the polys' on the characters are there for lighting.. since you've been doing games for 6 years i'm sure you know that lighting is completely based on the number of vertices.. so the more you have the more accurate the lighting is going to be. now i realize i'm not perfect...and i'm sure there are poly's that could go in better places or whatnot.. but in the game the models look pretty good.. so i really can't complain. i'm still learning so if you have any suggestions, feel free to bring them up...

dtrimble.. i didn't really want to touch up the models.. i guess i just wanted to show exactly what you are going to see in the game.. i could have touched up the areas to make it seem like muscles are bulging and all the other fun stuff that you can achieve without limits.. unfortunetly there just aren't enough bones in the characters to get full range of all the little subtleties the human body has.. maybe next time i will touch up the things i feel wrong before posting...just so time consuming :) thanks for the crit!

by the way... the new outlaw trailor is on teamxbox.com front page... here is the link to it.. hope you all like it..remember, its still being worked on! :)

http://www.teamxbox.com/showmedia.php?mid=276

Teyon
02-01-2003, 12:08 AM
Really nice work. My only gripe is her hair but forget it, the model as a whole melts any complaints I could've made. Nice stuff.

kwshipman
02-01-2003, 05:14 AM
That trailer looks pretty sweet! I especially like the way they interact. Will the charecters interact differently like friend/foe when paired up with certain people? I would go out and buy this as soon as it is released but I dont own a dang xbox.

dtrimble
02-01-2003, 09:23 AM
Yeah the models look great on that trailer, I think the pose for the girl wasn't a very flattering one:P The game looks very edgy, and very fun:)

arungowtham
02-01-2003, 11:43 AM
this is simply awesome,great man keep doing,u gota good feel for that wet dress,keep going,

cheers!
arungowtham.

rudegal
02-04-2003, 05:09 PM
:applause:
I like it a lot. I just started to learn 3d modelling so I'm like "WOW" Question: How did you do the clothing and how many polys is she? Keep up the good work!

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