Training cds for 3dmax

[Trion-5]

basics would be a good place to start

[Dave Black]

I personally think UVW mapping and materials seem to give alot of people problems. I'd love someone to make a set of training CDs that teach Low-poly tecniques for games, and then High poly for Cinematics. This seems to be an area that most people have a problem understanding.

Just a thought.

-3DZ

:D

[Troub]

think you're right ,Zealot.
making a cd about texturing a "complicated" (like organic) model, covering all steps, from uvw over painting in photoshop to applying to objekt. That's what i would buy immidiately.

[sireel]

Texturing mapping complex non-or and org. modeles
or
Character animation : a short fight scene between two dummies

I would buy them both.

[Groovedog]

...And provide the scene files so the person can follow along.

I learn by doing and seeing rather than listening to lecture. Probably due to my dyslexia but I figure anyone can benefit.

I also would like to see a complex model textured using the most current tools.

[Dave Black]

You know, I have'nt really seen many people talking about MAX 5's new UVunwrap tools. They are VERY much improved. In fact, it's like a different generation of UVmapping. My problem with MAX has always been that though it's incredibly powerful, it lacks elegance. It's very unintuitive. With these new tools, UV mapping has become much easier to comprehend and utilize. Perhaps a few tutorials on these new tools would benefit some people.

-3DZ

:D

[Indigo]

Timelapse videos of modeling, mapping, unwraping

[stillvapour]

For me,character rigging most needed.
Some advance shading like human skin will be great.
:)

[E.T]

Rigging would be on top of my list. "All" the other stuff i could manage to learn by tutorials on the net. But rigging and skinning is hard to understand unless someone is holding your hand and feeding you candy.
i hope. :D
I still cant get my head around skinning.

E.T

[Mahlon]

"ADVANCED" character rigging :bounce: and "Advanced" skinning issues. :beer:


Mahlon

[Groovedog]

For inspiration check out the gnomon Dvd's offered for Maya. I bought a couple (even though I don't use Maya).

Lotsa material there.

[Xilica]

Give us some step by step on low poly modeling. Start with an easy intro to low poly than progress to show its true power etc..

[TheDevil[DK]]

I'll post some in about feb. when my website is done !!

[Martijn Wijmer]

Some tut's on the material editor would be great. How to combine different "standard" shaders to get a good result. I really don't need another tutorial on how to paint a map in Photoshop. I feel that the standard shaders in max are often neglected (did i spell that right?) in tutorials. Some good tutorials about lighting would be great too.

[g3n]

UVW mapping, maybe some advanced modeling, like edgeloops. and also some basic rigging. :bounce:

[mastering3d]

Hi guys sorry for the very long delay in comeing back to all....

From what I can see you all some thing that the other dont or not sure about...So what I am thinking of doing is this...


(1) Make a game character.Like some thing that you would see in unreal 2003..
(2) unwraping the model for textureing..
(3)Textureing the model in Photoshop.And aplying the textures to the model in max 5.
(4)Rigging the model..
(5)Animateing the model for a game...

Do you like the idea of that or is there some thing that I missed out on there...So all in all this will be five cd's..

And they will be setup with a nice menu so that you can look at what part you want to learn in the tutorial..Let me know what you think of the idea..

But all so it will still be ok for max 4 user's.

[bjarneheden]

Originally posted by mastering3d
Hi guys sorry for the very long delay in comeing back to all....

From what I can see you all some thing that the other dont or not sure about...So what I am thinking of doing is this...


(1) Make a game character.Like some thing that you would see in unreal 2003..
(2) unwraping the model for textureing..
(3)Textureing the model in Photoshop.And aplying the textures to the model in max 5.
(4)Rigging the model..
(5)Animateing the model for a game...

Do you like the idea of that or is there some thing that I missed out on there...So all in all this will be five cd's..

And they will be setup with a nice menu so that you can look at what part you want to learn in the tutorial..Let me know what you think of the idea..

But all so it will still be ok for max 4 user's.



Sounds like a great idea!
This way, it will be in the form of a project from start to finish in an area that I believe would interest a lot of people.

And as someone else suggested, include the scene files for every step of the projects.

Also remember to explain WHY you shoose to do the things THIS way (for example "We will model the shoulder like this in order to facilitate animation...bla, bla, bla), because this is exactly what the end user will ask them selves and this is also the reason they will remember how to do it.


Best regards and good luck,

/Bjarne

[Clanger]

Sounds perfect except not to bothered about it being for a game.
Advanced skinning and rigging are so high on the wish list they're covered in snow.

[mastering3d]

bjarneheden@ And as someone else suggested, include the scene files for every step of the projects..
You will get the lot with it from the start to the end..It will be voice over so you never get lost I hope..

Clanger@ Sounds perfect except not to bothered about it being for a game. I think its a good place for all new comers to 3d to learn lowpoly modeling no matter what.If I was to do an high poly model it would take alot longer to do and it would fill five cd's on its owen may be..And not for getting that it will be runing real time not like a timelapse which is about 5 frames a sec...

And thanks for the relpys ...:thumbsup:

[Troub]

sounds great, can't wait :beer:

[mastering3d]

I have been doing some thinking about this training cd.And was wondering what the legal side of it would be.If I sell it from my web site..

Would it be legal or not....?

All so I will be posting a 2 min part of it by the week end...

[mastering3d]

What no replys to my last post ..Whats going on do you want a tutorial cd or not ...I need to know Would it be legal or not....? for me to sell this from my web site...Please give me some feed back or a link to information about this kind of thing...

[wild9er]

I can't see any issues with that. People sell basement (self programmed) software from home grown websites so I wouldn't see any problems with homegrown training cd's. Best bet would be to contact a commerce web site (the ones that host your commerce section of your web site) and see what the specifics are. They could give you the information that you need without leaving anything vital out. Probably the biggest issues would be trademark and copyright infringement; but since all the information is created by you (or others with thier permission) there probably would not be any issues.

[mastering3d]

Thank you for the Infomation....

[jadedchron]

anything that isn't offered over at 3dbuzz.com

[mastering3d]

jadedchron@anything that isn't offered over at 3dbuzz.com...

What you talking about ?...

[Mahlon]

3dbuzz.com has several free video tutorials for max. They are most excellent, too. He's just saying don't cover the same stuff unless you do it in more depth because otherwise there's no point. At least I think that's what he's saying?

Mahlon:beer:

[RusMan]

Character Rigging and materials and texturing are 2 most important.
Great idea.:buttrock:

[mastering3d]

Hi Guys & gals .

Sorry for any long delay in replying back to you all...The cd is all most done and ready to go ......Its at 95% of the way...I had some problems with sound .But that is fixed now and very clear and very good to the ear. All Tutorials are very crisp..800X600 16bit color and run smooth on playback...I did say that I would be unloading a apart demo for you to see but I will do that very soon ..If any one is still interested in seeing it that is .

It is a full cd about 3 hours long..
All about making a lowpolygon model .So as soon as it is 100% done I'LL start on the unwrapping cd ..
Then texturing cd .
Rigging cd..
Animating cd.And ...

[Teckniel]

wow very nice how much will ity cost and when can i get it??

ps dont ask to much else it will not sold :-)

and there will get illegal copies of it :-)


hope you do a training cd on textures making

[mastering3d]

Teckniel@ wow very nice how much will ity cost and when can i get it??

Well it will cost £25 pounds + £2 P&P Over sea May be abit more not to sure how much but it will not be much more then what you see there,So if Any one is going to rip it of then all I can say to them is you must be hard up.....As I no Paul Mikulecky over at Lost Pencil Animation Studios Inc.Had his training cd ripped of why the hell do they do it..Taking money away from some one that is just trying to help you guys got to learn .And at the same time trying to get some thing back from if all him self ...It takes so long to do all this stuff,And at times its not fun because all the problems that you can in counter ,Getting the cd done and getting it to work the way that you want it to ...Well if I do get ripped off then well that will be the end of it for me I will not do any more cds.As it is my time and it is just me doing them ..A one man band.

It may be out before but I am going for the end of this month...
So look out for Mastering3d in Lowpolygon.

Hope that helps...?

[Teckniel]

i cant see low poly on the site is it this url
http://www.mastering3d.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

[mastering3d]

I have not had time as of yet to to put any information up on there ...But look there in the next two days or so and there will be some thing for you to have a look at...thanks for replying.....

[mastering3d]

Hi guys ...Here is alook at what I will be making on the CD...

Hope that You like what you see and want to learn how to make some thing like it....
http://www.mastering3d.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Cd%20Tutorial/Lowpolymodel.jpg

[mastering3d]

Some of the Training Cds information (http://www.mastering3d.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/index1.htm)

[jadedchron]

the cds over at buzz are very informative. there are 4 cds total with about a couple hours on each cd. the latest one on max being modelling a head (alien). point being don't reinvent the wheel .. possibly go deeper by showing tips/tricks and any techniques about how YOU go about things.

[knifejuggler]

mastering3d: I get a 404 Not found for that link. Is it just me? tried without the index1.htm & got a 403 Forbidden!

BTW, I personally like the Buzz videos, you get used to the humour after a while, but at the moment, the available disks are at a beginner's level, I certainly won't mind paying £25 for a good, informative training CD (when I get paid again, January sucks money-wise!):annoyed:

[mastering3d]

Looks like some one dont like what I am doing and as hacked my site and delete alot of stuff of there...Reuploading it again..Going to renew the password ...How do they get away with this kind of thing ?..And how do they get in to site files in the first place...

[knifejuggler]

Unfortunately, there are several ways they can get in! If you are FTPing in, investigate whether you can use Secure FTP rather than the standard one which transmits your password in a non-safe way! Someone with the right software in the right place could intercept that! I got caught like that once! There are other ways too :annoyed: Have words with your host, they should keep records of all accesses, if they deem it worthy of investigating, they may be able to help!

[mastering3d]

Thanks for that information ..I'll have to look in to it and see what they come up with....I dont know really why they would want to delete stuff of there ..Theres nothing there for them ...May be they just think its fun to wast time ...Becuase that is what there doing is wasting there owen time as well my time by deleteing the site...ITS NOT FUNNY WHO EVER YOU ARE......

[knifejuggler]

Unfortunately, there are people out there that find it amusing to screw with other people for no apparent reason. sad!

[jadedchron]

hehe i think that goes without saying

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