Shake composites Middle Earth (LOTR)

[alphatron]

In the LOTR: Fellowship extended edition, the mini-documentary on compositing and colour-grading showed them using Inferno, at least it looked that way to me.

[G Nilsson]

LOL!
its really funny that they mention the greatness of cross-platform support considering apple killed all other versions than osx

/G

[beaker]

>>In the LOTR: Fellowship extended edition, the mini-documentary on compositing and colour-grading showed them using Inferno, at least it looked that way to me.

Weta has some Flame*/Inferno systems, also the digital color grading system Colossus has a FFI look to it.

>>LOL!
its really funny that they mention the greatness of cross-platform support considering apple killed all other versions than osx

They only canned the Windows version. The linux and irix versions are still being developed. I don't know where people keep on getting this crap about apple canning all versions but the mac one.

[G Nilsson]

as i understood it:
they killed the windows version, but let the other ones live for another year.

but i might be wrong

/G

[Array]

yeah....they only guaranteed that shake would be available for linux for a year or so, after that, who knows? also, shake costs 2x as much for windows/linux than it does for mac :(

[fr3drik]

Maybe I'm on the wrong track here, but it all sounds like Apple is biting its own tail? No?

I mean, it's not like they receive any extra goodwill points for canning all us Windows-users. On the contrary.

At our school, we are looking into the matter and it seems like we'll go with another compositing software from using the Windows version of Shake up until now.

[Gentle Fury]

Originally posted by fr3drik
Maybe I'm on the wrong track here, but it all sounds like Apple is biting its own tail? No?

I mean, it's not like they receive any extra goodwill points for canning all us Windows-users. On the contrary.

At our school, we are looking into the matter and it seems like we'll go with another compositing software from using the Windows version of Shake up until now.

This is my biggest complaint! Apple is a software terrorist coorporation!! Instead of just porting over to them, they buy a company and screw all its long time users!

If they really think they can bully people into buying a mac they are crazy!!! I actually had considered it until they started doing things like this!! And once they stole Shake from us (MY ABS FAV COMP APP!!!!!!) i have vowed NEVER to own a mac!!!

If it were the last commercial OS in existance i would build a Linux machine!!!! BTW Weta is nearly all linux :)

Being #1 by default not quality is not #1 in my opinion!

oh and if you want to check out the grading package that was used on LOTR here :)

http://www.five-d.com/main.htm?pulse/index.htm~mainFrame

seems like a really nice comprehensive (and expensive) package.

[kraal]

hmmm i am a mac user why because the research i looked up showed that most major studios that i would like to work for or with do also use macs so a mac only program is no different that a pc only program such as studiomax

[Gentle Fury]

Originally posted by kraal
hmmm i am a mac user why because the research i looked up showed that most major studios that i would like to work for or with do also use macs so a mac only program is no different that a pc only program such as studiomax

yes, but the difference is, 3DSMax was always a MS only product and was created as such.

Shake WAS an all platform program (it was being ported to mac just before they bought Nothing Real) and has/had a HUGE user base.

To by a program that is being used by many many people on multiple platforms and just take that away is not only really annoying to the user but also very destructive to the company!!!!

For some reason apple decided that it wasnt good enough to have thousands of users spanning many platforms using this software for 10,000, no they wanted ONLY mac users to use it for 1/3 of the price.........where is the LOGIC in that????

Sometimes they amaze me

Actually what i heard a little while back was, the intent is to eventually re-write final cut pro and incoorporate Shakes source into it and completely get rid of shake all together!!!!

Sad!

[Speed Racer]

Did anyone else notice that a good number of the compositing shots in LOTR: Two Towers were really, really, REALLY, REALLY bad? Almost like the early animatics made the final print. :-)

[googlo]

well, I did notice compositing that wasn't smooth between real and fake stuff at times, like it wasn't that I was looking for it it was just obviously there. I guess some of that can't be helped because it's so difficult and the technology isn't perfect yet, but what really surprised me were the car tracks leading up a hill in one scene where Gandolf whistles for Shadowfax. As the hors comes up over the hill, right on the hill in the background of that is a pair of 6 inch wide tracks going up the hill, like from a car or something. I was just surprised that got through, i guess things were rushed through or something

[fr3drik]

Are you sure it wasn't just some medieval wheel cart or something? ;)

[googlo]

yeah I'm pretty sure, the tracks were pretty wide, like that from tires on a car. It could have come from a really old world wagon wheel, but these tracks were pretty wide, and they went down the hill and disappeared behind the hill the Shadowfax ran up from.

[kt_falcon]

mmmmm, my history with using a mac over my windows based home system.

if i open more than 2 programs.....it freaks.(not a major problem if the job you're doing doent need you to use more than 2 programs at a time, like i use 3ds max and photoshop at the same time. if i added more there could be problems, but if your job only calls for you to just use 1 type program then i see no problem)

all the macs i have used in the past has been 1 button mice. (i prefer multi-button/scroll mice)

the graphics are better or can render in a clearer picture (was told it could be the monitor rather than the system and that a mac monitor can be used for a windows based pc).

the only complain is that is if i learned a software package on a system, to use it on a different system is a small learning curve for me. more of a nuisance.

it is just my preferance to use a windows based system cuz that is what i am used to.

as far as a company gearing toward a certain system i see that as a matter of marketing and gaining revenue for the long haul. if going a certain way helps the company to last longer and making better products i am for it, i dont see them limiting themselves in a certain type of market for long. i think the company will make products for other type systems like adobe has in the past if it see a market for it.

my thoughts, bah who cares!....lol

[Joviex]

Originally posted by fr3drik
"Weta Digital's state of the art studio works magic for the Lord of the rings Triology":
http://www.apple.com/shake/stories/lotr/

NOTE: I'm not affiliated with Apple or Shake in any way... just thought it was interesting reading.

:)

Hey, how great for Apple after having bought shake prolly during the time that WETA was using it. Amazing.

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