cost of scoring a 3d movie

[thatoneguy]

More like... 5% for music. You're probably looking at about 10-15% including folley. I wouldn't think ADR, Mix, Folley and Music comes in to more than 20-30%.

It doesn't take too many people to create the soundscape for an entire film. Especially compared to the armies of animators, modellers, TDs and managers required for the 3d side.

[nikolas1977]

It depends really...

3.5 Millions is way off.

BUT it mainly depends on what style of music you're talking about. Cause even a NIN track can cost (production wise) something like some thousands (many maybe), but the main thing to pay there is Trevor!

On the other hand if you want an orchestral score, then you may have to pay money to the composer (and then it depends on the name. For example Williams means millions, I means thousands :D) BUt it is also the production of the music! Which means a full orchestra, plsu mics, plus engineers, plus technitians, plus equipment (cause honestly 1 computer can't handle mixing and editing 90 minutes of soundtrack!) The cheap alternative to that is samploe libraries, which cost significantly less than a weekend of recording with an orchestra.

I hope that was helpful.

But honestly unless you want the top ten names in music, then 3.5 millions is WAY off

[Tagger]

actualy, the figures asked for music are enourmous, 60,000$ for 1 min of music arnt out of the ordinary in the music industry. Especialy when you want to use classical music. That's why a lot of movies get those works recomposed.
Over here the 1 minute rule is used A LOT in movies. In most cases you can use a song for a minute before you have to pay for it, and you can hold your stopwatch to it at howmany songs are cut off at 59 sec :)
This is a mather you realy should inform yourself about cause it WILL come back and haunt you

[nikolas1977]

I don't really want to start an argument or anything, but I really don't understand both your paragerphs in your post, Tagger.

Classical music, from a composer dead for 70 years or more, is copyright free. Everyone is free to do whatever they want (as long as you can get an edition (score) that allows you to do that.) But still you can just copy the score and work from there. It's not that hard.

As for the 59 secs... You mean that I can use a Michael Jacksons' song for 59 seconds and he won't get a buck?

I could be missinterpretting your post, but if this is what you're saying then, this is definately not the case.

And, btw 60000$ for what exactly? 1 minute of produced ready music? 1 minute of copoased music, 1 minute for orchestrated? What exactly?

[Tagger]

classical music is usualy orchestrated by a symphony that ISNT dead for 70 years. and even then it isnt always the case. Just look into the Wagner situation for Appocalypse Now score for example.

As for 59 secs is said "in most cases", i should have said "in some cases". that's something you'll have to look into the rights for that specific song with your musicrightsorganisation and/or lawyer, no you cant just use any music in any situation, it was just an example on how the "rules" are usualy streched to the limit.

the 60000$ is just to use it in your movie. Prices do variate from song to song so dont pin me down on that figure, there are a lot cheaper compositions out there, but i just want to say that it's good to be carefull in your choise in music.
Just an example: I've edited on a movie where there was this scene in a bar and in the background there was some music playing (i think it was tina turner). Right before release they had to get rid of the score on that scene and replace the music because if they would release it like that the price of the movie would have skyrocketed.

[nikolas1977]

You know, this has to do with copyrights mostly.

I compose music.
I hold the copyrights! Definately!
I have made the orchestration, score and everything around it.

So anyone who wants to use my music will pay me! no matter if it is for 10 or 100 seconds! It is mainly simple as that! Unless I never leran about it...

I don't know about the 60,000$ depends on the music and all, but the 59 seconds is wrong, as far as I know.

But I know for a fact that the cute song 'Happy birthday to you...' is copyrighted and people pay big bucks to use it in a movie :D

And anyway, for most case, find music that the composer/orchestrator is dead for 70+ years, and you're free to do whatever you want! But of course take care that the recording you use is also free (which has nothing to do with the composer being dead for 200 years, for all they care). Beethovens' symphonies are copyright free. Urtext editions, are not! Karajan recordings of the symphonies are not. Use the symphony with a new recording and a new score, if you want to.

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