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vampeta
03-19-2006, 05:42 PM
Not sure where to place a post regarding something I've found best, so I put it here in CG News. I've stumbled across a pretty cool thing called "lowfat". It tries to become a new interface for dealing with files (images, videos etc). Take a look at these screenshots...

http://macslow.thepimp.net/projects/lowfat/small_preview-shot-1.pnghttp://macslow.thepimp.net/projects/lowfat/small_preview-shot-2.pnghttp://macslow.thepimp.net/projects/lowfat/small_preview-shot-3.pnghttp://macslow.thepimp.net/projects/lowfat/small_preview-shot-4.png

There's also a video (some formats) available here (http://macslow.thepimp.net/projects/lowfat/preview-1.avi). (avi, windows media player works for me). The author has also a bunch of stuff written on the projects page (http://macslow.thepimp.net/?page_id=18). I hope this things gets some backing from a company or similar. It would rock my world if this stuff gets on my machine. Better sooner, than later.

Cheers :beer: Alex

CGmonkey
03-19-2006, 05:58 PM
Yeah I wanna pre-load my picture library consisting of over 60 gb of pictures. That'll happen... -_-

jinhachi
03-19-2006, 06:20 PM
That looks pretty cool but what im waiting for is this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6379146923853181774&pr=goog-sl

Cant wait to spend a couple thousand for that technology, haha.
The navigation reminds me a bit of Minority Report.

tozz
03-19-2006, 06:28 PM
What's wrong with Total Commander? :D

pokoy
03-19-2006, 06:35 PM
That looks pretty cool but what im waiting for is this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6379146923853181774&pr=goog-sl

Cant wait to spend a couple thousand for that technology, haha.
The navigation reminds me a bit of Minority Report.

:eek: can't believe this...

ThomasMahler
03-19-2006, 06:58 PM
Finally people and companies start to think more about how we should interact with our computers. Moving cursors along the screen, which we have to precisely point at this or that... it's just way too complicated and slow right now.

fuss
03-19-2006, 09:01 PM
That looks pretty cool but what im waiting for is this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6379146923853181774&pr=goog-sl

Cant wait to spend a couple thousand for that technology, haha.
The navigation reminds me a bit of Minority Report.

Cool! :love:
Let it be pressure sensitive like a Wacom and then imagine 3D modeling with it (especially organic sculpting, imagine using ZBrush with this thing! :eek: Although I am actually not a 3D modeler, I just wet myself).

SheepFactory
03-19-2006, 10:39 PM
just get a cintiq now if you dont want to wait , its pretty much the same thing ;)

MacSlow
03-19-2006, 10:54 PM
Yeah I wanna pre-load my picture library consisting of over 60 gb of pictures. That'll happen... -_-

Of course that's not the way to do it... and I don't make that claim anywhere :)

One has to do some clever caching and load-on-demand-loading of the files/documents viewed. Unfortunately it's not as trival as it seems at first sight.

Best regards...

MacSlow

MacSlow
03-19-2006, 10:59 PM
That looks pretty cool but what im waiting for is this:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6379146923853181774&pr=goog-sl

This multi-pointer input-device is very wicked indeed. I surely could make good use of that in lowfat too! I don't think they'll send me one if I ask politely ;)

Cant wait to spend a couple thousand for that technology, haha.
The navigation reminds me a bit of Minority Report.

Well, I don't intent to have my stuff be that expensive at all :)

I really wonder if their multi-pointer input-screen is a prototype or going to be a real product.

Best regards...

MacSlow

fuss
03-19-2006, 11:11 PM
just get a cintiq now if you dont want to wait , its pretty much the same thing ;)

Hmm, don't you still need a pen for a Cintiq, just like for a tablet? I am talking about using your hands (fingers!) for modeling, simililarly to working with real clay, just on a flat device but with an Undo-Function and all the modern tools of CG modeling :) . Wouldn't this be just sweet? I could think of only one better solution, a VR interface that would allow you to model completely in 3D :drool: . This is unfortunately distant future I'm afraid - at least for the average customer - and until then, such a "touch screen" would do just fine ;).

yenvalmar
03-20-2006, 12:29 AM
it would be cool but for now just using my mouse in my left hand and my tablet in my right, and having 2 cursors, and maybe even an extra cursor thats driven by what i'm looking at, would help a hell of a lot, and seems like the technology is all there, just needs a bit of programming to put it into practice. i already use the mouse and tablet at the same time but i have to alternate what hand i move.. what if you could rotate an object in 3d space with one cursor and sculpt it with another, for example. with hotkeys things are ALMOST as fast, but we arent buying new computers every 8 months to be almost fast..

chrisWhite
03-20-2006, 02:45 AM
Both of those look amazingly cool. Seems like we may be starting to see a trend toward real world ease of use and interaction—digitally, with thinks like the OneNote and the UMPC.

laureato di arte
03-20-2006, 08:17 AM
Oh cool looks pretty nice.
seems to run allot like visual flow, comes as standard on all vaios.

VisualFlow


After experiencing the freedom of VisualFlow, you may never return to traditional styles of browsing images. VisualFlow offers a quick and convenient way to browse through your still image and movie files (though it works with audio clips too). Unlike conventional viewers, VisualFlow gives you a virtual "analog" interaction with your images, almost as if you were dealing with a stack of prints or a carousel of slides.




VisualFlow launches automatically when you insert MemoryStick (http://www.memorystick.com/en/ms/index.html) TM (http://www.memorystick.com/en/ms/index.html) media that contains images. You can also use it to browse images in folders on other media such as your hard disk. To launch VisualFlow from PictureGear (http://www.mee.com.sa/sony-vaio/PictureGear.htm) TM (http://www.mee.com.sa/sony-vaio/PictureGear.htm), click on the VisualFlow button on the Toolbar. (You will also find it in the View menu.)


http://www.mee.com.sa/sony-vaio/SoftwareImages/Cr8tvSoftware/Photos/vf_01.gif




VisualFlow also provides an easy way to launch other image applications, such as PictureToy and PictureGear (http://www.mee.com.sa/sony-vaio/PictureGear.htm) TM (http://www.mee.com.sa/sony-vaio/PictureGear.htm) utilities. Click an image to enlarge it. Then click Applications (at the bottom of the screen) to select the software you want to use.


http://www.mee.com.sa/sony-vaio/SoftwareImages/Cr8tvSoftware/Photos/vf_02.gif






Launch LabelMaker
Click an image to enlarge it. Then click Applications and select PictureGear (http://www.mee.com.sa/sony-vaio/PictureGear.htm) TM (http://www.mee.com.sa/sony-vaio/PictureGear.htm) Utilities. Click LabelMaker to launch.
With LabelMaker you can easily create your own original labels for MiniDiscs and other applications


http://www.mee.com.sa/sony-vaio/SoftwareImages/Cr8tvSoftware/Photos/vf_03a.gif http://www.mee.com.sa/sony-vaio/SoftwareImages/Cr8tvSoftware/Photos/vf_03b.gif http://www.mee.com.sa/sony-vaio/SoftwareImages/Cr8tvSoftware/Photos/vf_03c.gif Select an image Drag your selected image
into Label Maker




Variety of thumbnail views
Choose the type of View and Sort order (by type, size or time) by clicking the buttons at the bottom of the screen. You can use the mouse pointer (touchpad, etc.), arrow keys, or Jog Dial to move through the images. (Right click to change folders or drives.) Click to enlarge. Click again to reduce to thumbnail size. Video images will be played automatically when enlarged.


http://www.mee.com.sa/sony-vaio/SoftwareImages/Cr8tvSoftware/Photos/vf_04.gif

SheepFactory
03-20-2006, 08:19 AM
Hmm, don't you still need a pen for a Cintiq, just like for a tablet? I am talking about using your hands (fingers!) for modeling, simililarly to working with real clay, just on a flat device but with an Undo-Function and all the modern tools of CG modeling :) . Wouldn't this be just sweet? I could think of only one better solution, a VR interface that would allow you to model completely in 3D :drool: . This is unfortunately distant future I'm afraid - at least for the average customer - and until then, such a "touch screen" would do just fine ;).


Sounds good in theory but I think i will prefer the pen as my input device over fingers ;)

paintbox
03-20-2006, 11:26 AM
Sounds good in theory but I think i will prefer the pen as my input device over fingers ;)

I guess you can compare it to painting with your fingers or painting with a brush. Some tools are just more convenient/suitable for certain tasks.

It would be cool if the Cintiq or similar device came with a brush. I do remember a video of such a thing.

ThomasMahler
03-20-2006, 11:53 AM
Sounds good in theory but I think i will prefer the pen as my input device over fingers ;)

Well, I think we should be able to use both. For modeling, drawing, etc., I´d also prefer to use a pen, but for everday stuff like browsing the web it´d be really cool just being able to use your hands.

Hope Apple shows some more of it´s multitouch screen soon enough.

paintbox
03-20-2006, 04:24 PM
Check this out :

Sony Datatiles
http://www.csl.sony.co.jp/person/rekimoto/movies/tile2.mpg

There is loads more of this stuff here :
http://www.csl.sony.co.jp/IL/projects/index.html

slaughters
03-20-2006, 06:41 PM
I guess you can compare it to painting with your fingers or painting with a brush...Me - I'm thinking about all the greasy finger print's you'd constantly have to wash off the screen. Trust me - I have a PDA, I know what I'm talking about :)

JWcph
03-20-2006, 10:04 PM
Macslow -

Just quickly browsed your site - impressive indeed! I too like that more and more people address the issue of how we interact with our precious machines.
As a designer I advocate the principle of "Acitivity Centered Design", whereby the main focus of the design process is what a certain process entails (see http://jnd.org/dn.mss/human-centered.html - Don Norman on the subject) - not "everything for everybody" but "the right thing for the right activity", you might say.
I saw that coooool "minority report" display before, I guess the main power it has over current touch screen units, wacoms and whatnot is the multiple point feature: Being able to use, not just both hands but even all your fingers to do what you want in an intuitive way.



Jesper W. of Cph

arvid
03-21-2006, 02:41 PM
What's wrong with Total Commander? :D

quoted for agreement :D

cpan
03-21-2006, 02:53 PM
quoted for agreement :D

and here goes one more vote for total commander :D

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