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Bierberg
03-17-2006, 04:12 PM
Anders Bierberg Hald is entered in the "The Journey Begins Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/journey_begins/view_entries.php?challenger=11062)

Latest Update: Final Image: Somewhere not here
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Bierberg
03-17-2006, 04:46 PM
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This is the first concept.
the feel of the desired end result came to me while listening to a Moby song.... but basically thats just sadness :D

it has some of the basics i want in my picture. a big landscape, a city a bridge, and girl and a small boy saying goodbye :)

no doubt this is not the way its gonna stay! i have sooo many ideas in my head i want to experiment with!

jcrawfor_us
03-17-2006, 06:19 PM
I like the sketch. Good luck with the contest!

J

Slav
03-17-2006, 06:46 PM
shold be a nice city bridge scape :)

Bierberg
03-19-2006, 09:28 PM
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I pushed the bridge out to the side.. and mirrored the characters .. and made a little river :P

pretty much what i want to work with at the moment.. tho.. lets se once i get some colour on it :D

Bierberg
03-28-2006, 08:38 PM
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A quick coloring.. still.. it doesent have that "yes!" feel about it.. im considering many steps from here... but im still firm in my mind that i want to make a picture with these elements! :D

Carlendour
03-28-2006, 10:36 PM
Nice Lighting. good luck

tomenas
03-29-2006, 12:08 PM
Nice atmosphere and lightening. Good luck!

Bierberg
04-06-2006, 06:30 PM
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made the sky a bit lighter.. and worked on the charackters a bit more

Nigio
04-06-2006, 08:30 PM
This is getting very nice, Bierberg. The colours are coming along in a good way, and so the mood of the scene.
Good work:buttrock:

warpy
04-08-2006, 12:29 AM
good start, reminds me of many orphan stories. you should somehow add more to the "journey" story itself. waving good bye under a bridge far from the city doesnt realy depict the whole journey for me. something definitely should be added to this.

keep it up.

ramy badie
04-08-2006, 01:15 AM
I think I prefer the original color idea, it was more eyecatching in my opinion. Now it looks to me like a trip to get some groceries. I think that I agree with warpy, this has a lot of potential and it is looking really great so far overall, just maybe make the journey a little bit more defined :)

Bierberg
04-15-2006, 06:28 PM
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This is just a middle stem towards the next picture i will be posting directly after this (cos i have made some big changes from the picture before this, to the one after)

Bierberg
04-15-2006, 06:32 PM
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i have widened the picture.. and all sorts of stuff! :D the picture kinda tells the tale :D

many borders between elements are messy and alo more is needed.. but i thought it was time for an update..

i have taken the comments and suggestions given to me and thought good about them.. i really appreciate it guys!

tho.. im afraid i have messed the scene up :D is it to messy?? confusing??

PS: size req. fucks up every detail :D
GOGO COMMENT!!

CoreyArtE
04-15-2006, 06:32 PM
Thats a really nice composition you got there, can't wait to see the final product.

BaronImpossible
04-15-2006, 07:58 PM
That's great, has a real atmosphere to it. No crits, except the newspaper would look better (IMO) if moved towards the corner, otherwise the far right of the image doesn't really hold anything of interest.

dyren
04-16-2006, 02:56 AM
looking really great!!


one crit though:

i think your current image is unbalanced by the large gray space in the top left. to be honest, your original concept image is much more powerful and attractive.

good luck!

MDN67
04-16-2006, 09:32 AM
very nice pic the sky and the clouds are very impressive, good job

warpy
04-16-2006, 11:52 AM
okay, looks better.

its hard to say who is going on the trip, is it the small boy or the 2 guys in the middle of the picture. unless i zoomed in like 500x and saw that those guys have sacks and stuff, i would honestly think that the boy is the one going away.

the guy in the middle is over exposed to the sunlight. you have to tone it down and add some more detail to him and his face, we need to see some expression from him. sad, lonely, etc..

maybe the kid should be sitting on a rock looking away from (lets call them his parents) his parents, seeing him crying, upset and angry about them going away.

i can see a vertical line where you widened the picture, fix it. you should add more width to it, more "what is there in the horizon", the trip is about going... going to the horizon.

the exodus thing is a nice touch :)

edit : that guy is right your second sketch with the bridge framing the picture is more powerful, you should definitely think of either taking the intense color scheme or bridge framing and use it some how. also the picture is wider.. which makes it look awesome.

keep it up.

Srulo
04-16-2006, 12:54 PM
Something doesn't add up with the light source on the girl. If it is so bright, so it can alter the color of her shirt, how come it doesn't create strong shadow on the truck? Other than that, Very nice piece!

Bierberg
04-16-2006, 09:18 PM
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taking all the crit im getting and thinking it through..
since allmost every thing you guys have mentioned "warpy" has in hes single comment.. so im gonna answer to that commen.. here..

this is far from the finnished picture.. so things like lines from expanding the canvas will appear from time to time (but thanks for saying.. cus in the odd case that i would have missed it completely in the final picture..)
i have widened the picture to the left and made the boy bigger.. the two people in fron of him is a girl and a boy (i will post a closeup right after this) this picture is really low quality.. so every detail is buggered.. just comment on the composition (if you comment based on this particular picture)

i need to do alot of corrections to the foreground grass all over to fit the perspective..

Bierberg
04-16-2006, 09:21 PM
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here is a detail of the main characters.

i hope you all can see that it is a girl now :D

nothing on it is finnished yet.. the bag, the boy in hte back, the clothes, the hands.. nothing.. but plz post your comments and advice on how you think it would be done best :)

she doesent look super sad here.. shes gonna look sader :P

dyren
04-17-2006, 01:14 AM
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now that you've expanded the canvas, you can really see what i was talking about. the dark area in the middle of the picture is really eye catching and distracting from the overall image.

there are a few things you can do to make it more attractive and aesthetically pleasing.

1. make it less solid so that more sky can be seen through parts of it which will break up the solid block of dark color

2. change the composition :\

3. make the bridge in ruins?


i just think that something to create a little more detail and interest while also reducing the eye-sore aspect of that part of the image would be beneficial to your overall picture.

really love the pic so far and keep up the good work

Bierberg
05-02-2006, 08:14 PM
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k.. i have tried to make the bridge more distant..

and i have flipped the direction of the clouds, this clears the air above the characters.. putting more focus on them.. and it closes the emptyness to the left... but now there is a whole lot of emptyness to the right.. even more since i have widened the scene to push the bridge a little (again again again)

is there to much going on at the centre of the image now?? i think so.. but perhaps thats cos i haven made any details to the sides yet...

Slav
05-08-2006, 03:33 AM
the last update really works i think. it really shows the vastness of the outdoors compared to the child. very well done.

jevinart
05-08-2006, 03:38 AM
very nice work here! especially like the crumbling overpass as it stretches into the distance. excellent sense of depth and sensitive attention to lighting and mood....

SideAche
05-08-2006, 06:25 AM
Ah yes, this latest composition really works well. I'll enjoy watching this one. Good wor, nice paint application.

MDN67
05-08-2006, 03:13 PM
The last up is good by this before was better for me, just an opinion

Bierberg
05-12-2006, 10:09 AM
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This will propably be the second last image i will be submitting..

i have added the details and blended the seams...

and a bit of colour retouching..

this is the last chance to tell me if you think something is out of place..

authentic
05-12-2006, 11:14 AM
NIce picture. Good perspective. I would just say the intention of the characters (so of the picture) is not really clear.

MrFreeman
05-12-2006, 01:34 PM
- Hi Anders - sorry I've not read your thread for a long time, but I really love this piece.

really dynamic and great sense of space and perspective.
One of my favourites

keep up the great work :) :)

DeeVad
05-12-2006, 01:56 PM
Hi Bierberg,
You made a good blending on the last one, the only things I could advice you is why keep a part almost black ( or it's my screen ? ) when you could have a good contrast with blue light of the sky coming into your black shadows ?
Anyway, it's not important and I respect the artistic choice. Technique observation can made suffer a illustration feeling.
Good job - David

Cyberone
05-12-2006, 02:25 PM
i agree the darks are quite dark on both my screens but i really think its ok...it makes a really nice contrast.

ive been following you piece for a while...its has developed nicely...i like the sorta sunny post apoclyiptic feel you have going...right up my tree.

love the olors and the light...

the story is a little unclear fron JUST the picture but its nice to leave the imagination to run free...i like that..

anyway....great work..

CYB

domclubb
05-12-2006, 04:37 PM
i agree with most people about the darkness. i love the blue shadows under the bridge and wish the foreground would also be like this. anyway, its really getting there. good luck.

Bierberg
05-12-2006, 10:22 PM
Wow! i didnt expect such good artist as you guys to give me so much praise!! thank you!

to tell the gods honest truth:
i began this challenge in the hopes of winning flashy stuff.. it quickly dawned on me tho, that i was up agains much greater artists than myself. and from that early point i just did this for the picture.. to really invest time in one. it might not look like it.. but i really have spent alot of hours working on it and thinking about it. it has been a great experience! and i thank all of you who have contributed.

on the last notes on how the dark areas arent doing anything for the picture.. it was not my intent or artistic views.. thats just what happens when your not good enough to controll everything in your picture :)

And about the story not being told clearly.. i have one final swing in my sword.. and i will swing it proud but futile :)

***Bierberg .. ALMOST out... :P

Bierberg
05-12-2006, 11:27 PM
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The girl and her family is moving. there is nothing she could say to change her parents minds but thats not even an issue for her. They are moving, thats the way it just is.

she wont miss many things from this place, under the bridge. there are better places, there has to be. whats the point of moving if not this?

but now this little boy suddently stands there. She knows him well. She has known him ever since he was born. He does not say anything even tho he's capable of it.

The boy starts waving silently.

The girl waves back at him.

now she is sure there are
some things she will miss.
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yeah im not much of a writer i know :D
but it pretty much captures what i intended for the picture.

Its been great fun guys! ill definately join up for the next challenge :)

***Bierberg

notpill
05-16-2006, 12:52 PM
I like so much! and the lil plane in the children'shand it's really a nice touch.
Simple but meaningful.

good luck

OZOZOZ
05-30-2006, 04:05 PM
not many topics like this are in this challenge! great work!:thumbsup:

Slav
05-31-2006, 12:13 AM
got a larger res version? i want to check out the detailsage.

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