omiQron - Restless Eternity [Cg Movie Project]

[DogmaD]

Good luck Jozef :). The city looks very nice by the way :D.

[BOY1DA]

Good to have you come back to hang out with us in the collab forums.

So what's your production game plan. I mean it seems to be very open.
Is there a script, or story boards, animatics...

What I'm trying to say is that for an example....I see that there is no textures on a building ,
and if someone wanted to texture it, how would they know how hi they should make the resolution of the texture, without knowing how close the camera will go to the object.
So to help figure that out they would need to see maybe a storyboard shot and know
how big the frame of your final movie will be. so they can know what quality to make the textures. I hope that made sense.

Do you already know those things ? I have never done any out door stuff before.
so things like cities and buildings , I wounder how people plan out working with such LARGE objects, the same thing goes for large space ships too ...


Anyway, good luck and have fun.

[TheCaveman]

Thanks Dogmad and Boy1da. If only one day I could get as far as you 2 would be great. hope to take this project as far as that.


For the script. There is a script. not completly written out on paper but it is in my head. for the moment I wrote down 6 complete scenes that could be worked on right away.
The storyboards aren't done yet because I kinda "suck" in drawing so storyboard artists are more then welcome. I did some quick drawing didn't really look like something but it is ok to work with but real storyboards would be a lot better.

For exemple if we take the city as in the pictures above I won't make any close ups of the city like that. there is a skyline and a general idea that should be "massive" "huge" etc. so for this the textures don't have to be that high rez. but some parts of the city will have to be high rez in modelling and texturing. for exemple the region around the lab or the street of Katherines appartment or for the gothic part the region around the castle/sanctuary.

These things I "know" I have to write them down because it is all very much in my head. I only wrote down the major things. this way it stays rather open also for when somebody comes up with some good ideas there isn't a problem of putting it all in.

The exact plan for know would be to first try and make a 30 sec trailer. then a 2-3 minutes trailer and then the actual film.
Just some technic stuff. I work with 3ds max 6 but there isn't a problem if you would like to join but you have another package as long as you can transform things to a .obj file or to a 3ds max file.

thanks once more for the comments if there are some more questions just let me know I'll do my best to answer them :):)

greets
jozef

[Grrrrrrr]

Hehee...look who's here :D :applause: . How are you doing man? Long time no see. I remember this project of yours since the beggining of my lotr :D .So you are now turning it into a collab. This might be hard, since i found that is hard to get ppl involved.

PS: don't wait for ppl to come to you, you must contact them, at least at the start :thumbsup:

GOOD LUCK!

[TheCaveman]

hehe Grrrrrrr, been a very long time. how is your project going : the LOTR one and the Shards of Ashgard one? when is there going to be an update??? ;) :D

Thanks for the tip on contacting people (for the moment I got two other people who contacted me who would like to work on the project. if you have some more tips on how to run/setup projects like these (you or anyone else) would be great.

thanks for your msg and good luck with your projects too. I'll be following them closely.

To give away a bit more of the project here are some concepts of clothes mainly for Abigail and Nylinn and probably some side characters.

Thanks for viewing. And if you're interested let me know we need you people !!! ;)

http://3d-caveman.com/Images/Scan0012.jpg

http://3d-caveman.com/Images/Scan0013.jpg

http://3d-caveman.com/Images/Scan0014.jpg

http://3d-caveman.com/Images/Scan0016.jpg

http://3d-caveman.com/Images/Scan0017.jpg

http://3d-caveman.com/Images/Scan0018.jpg

http://3d-caveman.com/Images/Scan0019.jpg

[softdistortion]

Just a suggestion but you my want to reconsider the big gown costume for your characters. Especilly if they do a lot of motions, It's potentially a technical nightmare to make it look good?

City looks great BTW!

[TheCaveman]

Thanks Softdistortion for your comments. I agree that the big gown is going to be hard to model and I don't think it will actually fit in for the other gows it will be tough to do but I have a couple of rituals in the story for which these dresses would be great but in these rituals there won't be a lot of action so I hope to get this done :)

Well first member update ;)

We now have lacrevette on the team as a Character modeller and designer.
and we have FE_Cyril on board also who is a choreographer for battle and action scenes.

Greets
Jozef

[FeCyril]

Are those monsters in the bridge battle(ones that OGI created) four legged or biped or flying or...

Cyril

[TheCaveman]

Yup the "monsters" are going to be in the battle. I think that there are going to be two legged mechanical flying creatures ;) or something like that.

First concept of Cyril: The Sword Lessien.
I liiiiike it ;)


http://3d-caveman.com/Images/Lessien%5B2%5D.jpg

[Ronson2k]

Looks pretty great to me. I like everything here. The sketches are incredible. I just one question about the the sword. It looks like it has a hollow center in the blade? I found this site for sword parts (http://www.snowspine.com/armory/anatomy.html)? Could help while making one. The sword looks a little less then protective currently.

Given it's like a Barbarian type of sword (Broadblade) it perhaps could have a bit more protection around the hilt. The added weight wouldn't be much and the added weight it currently affords would make the protection around the hilt would make it a more effective weapon. A lighter sword would have a problem slowing a blow but the heavier one would sniff at such a blow. Making the added protection even more effective.. This wouldn't mean changing the design at all you could perhaps add some added material to the hilt extending it enough to catch the blade of an attacking sword and hold. See Email Sword..

Ronson2k

[FeCyril]

Ronson2k:

No,its not hollow, the part you see as hollow is "not sharpened" part,and shaded one is the edge.
About the protection,feel free to sketch it and post it.:thumbsup:

Thanks for critiques,

Cyril

[TheCaveman]

Just as Cyril said the inside isn't hollow.

Ronson sketched what he meant. hope you don't mind hehe.

http://3d-caveman.com/Images/Lessien%28HiltRM2a%29.jpg

what do you think Cyril? Another question would you be ready to do a bit more sketching? I have a couple of ideas for the battle scene on the bridge (especially the bridge itself).
If so I'll send you an email after that

We have a new member: 3DEffects. doing sketching and modelling environnement

Greets

[FeCyril]

Great addition, If Jozef agrees,I'm OK with it.:thumbsup:

Jozef:send me the email and I'll see what I can do?

Cyril

[TheCaveman]

We'll keep it then ;)

Forum is open, still very empty :) and not on the right server yet but it will be easier to start working :)

everybody who joined and who wants to join can register at the forums : Forum (http://www.phpbbserver.com/omicron/)

greets
Jozef

[Ronson2k]

Booked and registered at "The Black Goddess"

The protective blades could be thickened or built into a greater fan of blades but I was working fast. A greater fan could then be used for closer combat.

Ronson2k

[TheCaveman]

Thanks ronson, I activated your account and all :).

Feel free to modifie the sword. if it turns out even better then it is already then :bowdown: ;)

here is some quick work of this afternoon some city props made by 3DEffects all rather lowpoly because of the distance they'll be at and some quick concept I made myself (not a very good drawer but oh well does the trick I hope) .

We could still use a lot of people if you are interested feel free.

here are the pics
greets

http://3d-caveman.com/Images/City-Props.jpg

http://3d-caveman.com/Images/Troop%20Transport_small.jpg

[FeCyril]

Registered at the Black Goddess.

Cyril

[TheCaveman]

Some updates on the crawler. just very simple texture got some details to add to it.

We are in desperate need of a good concept artist ;)

thanks for viewing as always
greets

http://3d-caveman.com/Images/TroopCrawler05.jpg

[TheCaveman]

Hi again,

Well after a first week of collaboration the team has grown to a 10 men strong one so I'm really happy to have turned the project this way.
Next to that the website has had a 100 visites in a week that is even greater.

We now have our own forum and things are getting organised and are getting rolling.

*We still need concept artist and 3D artists for high quality models (especially for character concepts and models:) )
If you are interested feel free to contact me at admin@3d-caveman.com or by msn : jveebergen21968@hotmail.com or at the forums at 3d-caveman.com*

Would be a nice present for my birthday today to get some more people involved ;):p

greets

[TheCaveman]

Here goes with the first start of the lab: we are going for a clean look giving it a more mysterious one I think :)

here are the pics (modelled by marcvz)

*(We still need people on the projet feel free to contact :) )*

greets

http://www.3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/marc/renders/TL1.jpg
http://www.3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/marc/renders/deur1.jpg
http://www.3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/marc/renders/TL_belichting.jpg
http://www.3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/marc/renders/deur_muur1.jpg

[Kid-Mesh]

Modeling looks good. I'll keep watching this thread....keep it going.:p

[TheCaveman]

Thank you Kid-Mesh I'm glad to have you following this and maybe get some tips from you about the collab work and all :).


here are some new props made once more by marcvz (this guy is a machine lol :p )

We still need concept and 3d artists animators etc etc

greets

http://www.3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/marc/renders/Security%20cams2.jpg

[morgangray]

I sent you an email about a week ago asking to join, but I used outlook instead of opening a new internet window and sending it straight from hotmail. I'm guessing that its just outlook that didn't work. I'll send you another email about joining and how much time I'll be able to put into it if I can join.

[TheCaveman]

Welcome to the team Morgan ;)

here is a new picture to show some progress work.
we started working on the teaser we plan to make just some short animations of 1min length. script is finished and a general pre-viz has been made by 3d-effects to see how it looks. we are working on the more detailed pre-viz and high-poly models etc.

here is a small picture of the swat truck. still needs detail

http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/Jozef/TroopCrawler16.jpg

We could still use people especially character concept artists

Greets

[Ronson2k]

Cool looking APC. I would take a look at current Crowd Control vehicles for inspiration on this one. SWAT vehilcles have a few functions.

Going on Scene

1. Stealth
2. Safety
3. Large Capacity

So you would want something that is non discript (FEDX/UPC truck). In all the TV I've ever scene a SWAT vehicle in they are usually unmarked Delivery Van things (Black or Blue).

Granted when ever a SWAT vehicle is used it has already escallated to the point where stealth isn't so much of an issue anymore. However there could be times when you would want that as a feature and in those times a "Disguised" Vehicle would be easy to get in and out adding to the safety of the personel.

I have Janes book of Armoured Vehicles (bit old now though about 5 years) but still as UTD as printing (they haven't reprinted that one yet AFAIK). Not to go and totally change the concept of your APC for a SWAT team or APC Military Responce Truck. However a few points to concider with your APC (if it is to be used as a SWAT Vehicle).

Wheels instead of Tracks.

Let's start off with the wheeled version first

Wheels are faster and easier to replace/repair. They have most usually (especially for these situations) self sealing tires making them nearly unstoppable from a tire standpoint. While repairs are going to take some time (tire replacement) they will be alot faster then resetting a track(s) on a tracked vehicle. As they roll on tires they have a high ground clearance and turning center. They are 2/3rds as heavy and twice as fast as a tracked vehicle. They do have a bit of stealth in that they sound like a diesel truck or bus (I've ridden in one) as they are both powered by the same engine type. Wheels will ride on any urban surface without damaging it for the most part. They can do things that a truck can't like go through walls or over obstruction unlike that of a truck (armoured).

There are a few down sides but these can be offset.

1. Smaller capacity (offset by increased number of vehicles)
2. Can't climb like a tracked vehicle (not a problem so much in an urban enviroment)
3. Incresed Size (reducing access over a treaded vehicle)

Tracked Vehicles:

Tracked vehicles where good when that was all you had and before tire tech got really good. They could go through anything although slower they were unstoppable. The low clearance gave better capacity and made for fewer needed vehicles. This in turn increased security (less of a target). They can turn in place and like a tank can go backward or forward at the same speed and adjility. They are a a bit smaller then the wheeled version making for greater access too tighter spaces.

For a SWAT vehicle though speed and stealth are key. This is where the wheeled vehicle surpases the tracked.

Check this Site (http://www.policeman.sk/police_vehicles.htm) and this speciflically
(http://www.policeman.sk/Police%20vehicles/PVAS.jpgVehicle%5B/url)
I think that last vehicle is a Santa Barbara BLR, APC. This company is now owned by General Dynamics.

This ONE (http://www.policeman.sk/Police%20vehicles/PVAS.jpgVehicle%5B/url) aswell. What you probably want is a LAV (Light Armoured Vehicle) type. These can come with a turret but usually not. You also need to think of the job for these guys. Going through walls and the like is going to be something they want to be able to do.

Some Cool looking APC/LRV's IMO...

Patria XA-180 (http://www.armyrecognition.com/europe/Finlande/vehicules_a_roues/XA_SISU/SISU_XA-180/XA-180_Sisu_Finlande_pictures.htm) (Finland)

Otokar Cobra (http://brochures.slosh.com/hmmwv/otokar1.jpg)

I would suggest the same book I have Jane's Tanks and Combat Vehicles Recognition Guide (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0007127596/sr=1-1/qid=1143992275/ref=sr_1_1/103-4403516-2044668?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=books) It is in 3rd edition. I have the second edition myself (it has been updated since) just found that out...?

Looking forward to getting some e-mails from you soon...

Ronson2k

[TheCaveman]

Hi ronson

thanks for your feedback. I agree with you about the wheels hehe but I actually chose chains on purpose. the fights we see are part of a war and the swat/army doesn't need to be that stealth but this will be the more heavy transport they have. to transport 20 people at once and don't have any problems with obstacles etc they don't have to be very quick but this will make it vulnerable as well something new to play with

This wont be the only transport/vehicule of the swat/army I'm planning on making some other vehicules quicker and with tires. With the sites you gave me that shouldn't be a problem any more ;)

I've send you an email also ;) hope to hear from you soon

We have found two concept artists (finally :D) so here are some first drawings. The swat outfit (normal swat no ranks) and the human rebels.

Greets

http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/Borja/SwatCONC_003.jpg

http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/Borja/SwatCONC_001.jpg

[TheCaveman]

Thanks for the stars those who voted. Not sure we deserve them yet lol.
Damn now we have to work even harder to be worthy of the stars :twisted:

The planning of the first scene of the teaser is almost finished after that we have to model the swat and vampires, rig them, animate, texture etc. hope to show something soon

greets
jozef

ps: we could still need some character modellers or props/environnement modellers

[TheCaveman]

A small update today.

A closer look at the swat members. or at least there outfit. They have a complete body protection to avoid any biting from vampires well at least that is what they hope for ;).

http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/Borja/SwatCONC_004.jpg

Greets

[Ronson2k]

Looks great. I was thinking maybe some breathing apperatice for teargas/nervegas/non O2 enviroments (smoke/fire) protection aswell. Seeing as he is wearing a full faced helmet. While I'm on the helmet thing perhaps some night vision aswell (thicker face plate). You could also incorperate a thermal vision thing in there aswell. To be totally tricked out.. I'm thinkng they use them in Police Helo Ops (currently) so a personal unit would be futuristic but not that far off. JST...

Ronson2k

[TheCaveman]

Thanks ronson :) (should be sending you an email later today if I manage to finish the wall I'm building in the garden)

normally there is some sort of gasmask in the helmet if you look at the front of it (I mean it could be anything but a gasmask was what I was thinking of in the first place)

I think that in the face plate there will be nightvision/thermal because it would be the only way to really distinguish vampires because they'll look quite a lot like humans :).


Well Lacrevette started working on one of the characters of the swat team. I'll make it the swat team leader lol. I like it a lot lot lot :)

http://82.67.73.166/wip2/testportrait.jpg


http://82.67.73.166/wip2/testportrait3.jpg

Greets
Jozef

[Lacrevette]

Don't look at the hair :)
I'm working on the clothes.

http://82.67.73.166/wip2/testportrait5.jpg

[TheCaveman]

after a complete month of collaboration the team has grown to the size of 20 :bounce:

here are some more updates

some more character stuff : a first try at a vampire:
(sorry for the image sizes I'll repost when at home)
http://82.67.73.166/wip2/vampire2.jpg

the new concept of the swat crawler:

http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/Minda/crawler_new.jpg

high detailed street

http://www.smallwhitelies.com/portfolio_2006/images/road2.4.jpg
more to come :)

[TheCaveman]

Small update : Lacrevette wanted his character to get some life. So I tried to give some = me having fun rigging his face (first try of a complete facial setup btw)

it is rather short though put it on repeat mode :)

Angry [animation] (http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/jozef/animation/head_morph_test0003_angry.avi)

Greets

[TheCaveman]

Here goes with some more updates :

The start of the highrez version of one of the streets :

http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/James_disconnected/city-teaser-block01.jpg

http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/James_disconnected/city-teaser-block02.jpg

and the new version of the crawler. with wheels this time. some major changes left for this vehicule though.

close up of the wheels :

http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/Jozef/TroopCrawler18.jpg

http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/Jozef/TroopCrawler19.jpg

[BOY1DA]

Have you started to break down the camera shots yet ?
That way maybe you can cheat by not having to model everything that will not be seen.

If your movie is character based you will come to find that most of your shots will be
close up and the sets are not seen in full most of the time.
As for wide shots low poly models should do the trick with really good textures.
If you are gonna do a zoom in then you can composite a hi poly model into
a bunch of lo poly models , you only need to make the building that you zoom into hi poly.

Well just trying to give some tips. probably not much help , but I just wanted to say HELLO! :wavey:

[TheCaveman]

Hi BOY1DA thanks for passing by and say hello :)

We "kinda" started to break down the teaser shots (the 60 sec. animation to see how long this takes, quality etc etc.) but while doing that we came up with a couple of ideas that changed everything again hehe. we wanted to use one camera but it became really dull and anoying to look at. so we started over again this weekend :)

It will be character based so there are already different versions of the different characters like the low/med and high polys (not completly modelled out though but oh well we're not in a hurry ;) ). I'm glad we dont have to make everything high poly. the city is already giving me a hard time rendering in one run (btw if somebody knows how to setup layer rendering in max 8 :D) that is why we try to make a couple of highrez buildings to make complete streets that will be filmed up close. :)

Thanks for the tips hehe :) and would you mind if some time soon I take contact by email to ask you a couple of more questions because you're into the collaboration way longer then me so some more tips and answers would really be great :)

Greets
Jozef

[BOY1DA]

No problem, I will send you a PM with my e-mail.

Layer rendering in max is pretty easy.
In my project I tend not to do too much multi pass type renders,
in example I don't do a spec pass a bump pass a defuse pass.

I do more of separating objects like character from background type of renders.
If you get what I mean ?

Hope you have a lot of hard drive space. you will need it.
And what program will you use to put the layers back together ?

I also recommend that you focus on one shot only.
If you try to produce the full 60 seconds at once you will spread your energy too thin.
If you just pick one shot , maybe that shot will last 3 seconds.
In that shot as an example you may have a vehicle driving down the street.

If you can see that shot trough and do that in good quality....
It will give you a good idea how to improve the next time and you will have a kool shot to
show others ,and give a good idea how it will look when you are done.

It took me many months just to get my main character to take a drink.
Because I had to first create the character a made sure it fully worked,
and to top it off her lower body is not even in the shot.
Then I had to make the set, and again you only see one small section of one wall
in a 4 wall set. Then lighting and rendering then doing sound....
So pre-production of your shots is always a real good idea too.
Do a quick version of your shot, that way you will see what is missing before you
go at it hard. wow, I didn't even mean to type so much D'OH !

[TheCaveman]

Thanks once more BOY1DA.

just as you said. I would like to avoir the spec, bump map etc passes but cut down like for the first scene : city, cars etc.

I hope to have enough hard drive space :s otherwise it will be buying another hard disk :s.

We just finished the teaser script for a 60 secs animation. we devided the whole thing into four scenes that will be subidived while storyboarding (phase we should start this week normally I hope (btw if there are some good storyboarders out there)
after that every shot will have its previz and then it is up to the hardest part make everything of very good quality :)

I cross my fingers and thanks for the help BOY1DA appreciate it

Greets

[BOY1DA]

Sounds like a very good and clear plan, I wish you luck.
And hope you get all the help you need for the pre-production stage.
Because that stage is very important and will help to speed up the production stage.

I will reply to your PM soon when I get some spare time.

[TheCaveman]

Thanks boy1da and thanks for the PM as well :) I'll be back with some more questions if you dont mind :)

some new concept work for the "swat buggy" will be used for the teaser :)

Greets
Jozef

http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/Minda/buggy.jpg

[Kid-Mesh]

Wow...nice progress. Keep it going :wip:

[TheCaveman]

Thanks Kid-Mesh glad you like it :D

We're still working hard. concepts and models keep flowing in. here is just some small taste of the bigger update for tomorrow with some nice concept work (I'm assembling everything from everybody putting some names etc on it but couldn't resist to show some work :) )

Greets

http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/Jozef/4X4%20lab01.jpg

[TheCaveman]

Here goes with the promised updates :

the swat guys (still WIP will probably be a mix of both)

http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/butuc/swatcopy8en.jpg

The swat leader:

http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/butuc/joncaleb1wf.jpg

and Abigail one of the main characters (still WIP aswell)

http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/butuc/Abi.jpg

And a first try on the body of the swat guys:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/pawllarkhoon/Torso1.gif

and finally a "package" of road segments to easily make some roads

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/anrn/cc8df9aa.jpg

Credit and copyright of course go to the authors of the different works :) (who do an incredible job)

Greets
Jozef

[BOY1DA]

Nice WIPS.

I really like the fashion outfits you have for the ladies in this project.
Looks like that stuff Will be fun to see come to life and a challenge as well.

Keep it coming.

[TheCaveman]

Thanks BOY1DA. I'm trying to give a rather "classy" feeling to the vampire kind of the story. Of course these kinda outfits will only be for some ceremony's etc I've planned but I like that style alot so I'm hoping that the modelling will look as great as the drawings :)

here goes with a last one for today. I really like this drawing and I'm really happy Laurentiu joined our team (this guy is a real machine lol)

so here goes with another one of his pictures. Not special concept but more promo material :).

Greets

http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/butuc/www7sh.jpg

[TheCaveman]

we managed to make it through 2 months of collab work today :D happy me :p

here is a small update for a bigger one coming one of these days :)



have fun

greets

ps: we could still use some serious character modellers if anybody is interested ;)

[BOY1DA]

That model looks real good, nice anatomy.

My only question is why model the character nude ?
I mean will it be seen nude in the movie ?
If not it would save allot of time just to model characters with the
outfits as they will be seen in the movie. If you are modeling the body because of cloth sims.
Then you should be able to use something like a stock model mesh for the collisions
you won't see it anyway. I tend to delete most of the body parts under the clothes .

Looking great !

[TheCaveman]

Thanks BOY1DA once more :). Euhm nope the character won't be nude normally but as you said we modelled it for clothing it seemed rather logical to me but now when I read your post I kinda have a doubt hehe.
For your Character you didnt model her body? just her head, arms/hands and the rest is outfit?

Something new for the website for those who are interested in sharing their ideas and opinions and experiences on the topic :
We decided to open up the forums a bit more to the public. We're getting more and more known with everything hiding behind movie production and its great fun to learn all this. So we decided to create a public part on the forums where we and the visitors can share experiences, tutorials, information, and most of all the passion for movies and movie making :)
So just drop by at : http://forum.3d-caveman.com and check out the Movie-Making section and if you like it feel free to register aswell ;) (isn't much yet but we're working on it ;) )

Greets
Jozef

[TheCaveman]

Well we need a bit of help here :)

We're wondering about our lab guards so Laur2000ad came up with this sketch for the guard. I'm not really sur it fits in the project but he is convinced it fits hehe so because the project is rather democratic and all we decided to make a post in here to get some other people's reaction.

So to be clear. I like the outfit except the helmet (it looks to futuristic, scubadiving like) laur2000ad says it tis in because the lab is weird and they look weird so that is what should be the thing.

So please please comment on this one :)

thanks
Jozef

http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/butuc/Guard2.jpg

[BOY1DA]

Yea, I can see what you are saying Jozef...

I like the idea of trying to make it look strange, and it also looks a bit like
the head gear that the guys have in them micro chip labs... So I think that
he is probably going toward that look not a diving look.

Maybe he can make some small adjustments, based on the other
guard concept so it has the same feel, but tweak the helmet to look
a bit more stream line and conform to the head more.
And make the lenses on the face smaller so they don't look like diver ports.
So that they look more like optic sensors instead.

I drew a doodle to show what I'm trying to say. Hope that helps.

http://www.boy1da.com/CGTALK/guard.jpg

[TheCaveman]

Thanks BOY1DA :) I'll be soon bothering you with some other questions (when storyboarding is done (I hope pretty soon) ) with some more detailed questions about the scene setups you talked to me about :)

We changed the look of the guys finally and took them back to something more regular I'd say see pics ;) and Laurentiu (who drew the guards aswell) made us some promo drawing hehe I truelly love it so that is why I decided to show it here aswell :)

thanks for viewing
greets
jozef



http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/butuc//dark%20fam..jpg

[TheCaveman]

Well it would be time to do some updating I think
Things have been quite busy and I spend more time managing the whole team then doing something myself lol

the first character that has entered texturing and rigging
made by our team member Lacrevette
the leader http://www.chezlacrevette.com/swat/swatleaderwip13.mov (http://www.chezlacrevette.com/swat/swatleaderwip12.mov)

another character :
made by Paul Larkin
the regular swat guy
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/pawllarkhoon/SwatClothed2.gif

the swat vehicule modelled by Lunaticu (but it will probably change (see the concept made by laurentiu )

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8928/basemesh71detailes4qf.jpg

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/7422/basemesh7detailes9hv.jpg


the street we're building in a higher rez for the trailer we are working on
completly modelled by disconnected (our architect )

http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/James_disconnected/city-teaser-block06.jpg
http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/James_disconnected/city-teaser-block08.jpg
http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/James_disconnected/city-teaser-block10.jpg

and the work of 3Deffects on the road package . texture are still workin progress

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/anrn/135e1e81.jpg

thats it for the images for now there are a lot of other things going on but I can't tell about them yet because one of our highest prioritys right now is dealing with the copyright issue for all the team members

greets
jozef

[TheCaveman]

here goes with another very small update on the swat leader. we kinda finished modelling it and we could use some real help right now on organic things that look a bit weird :)

thanks for viewing
greets
jozef

[Lacrevette]

updated

http://82.67.73.166/images_portfolio/wip8.jpg

[Lacrevette]

http://82.67.73.166/swat/swatleaderwip15.mov
http://82.67.73.166/swat/swatleaderwip15b.mov

some corrections, ( head has been scaled, sleeves, etc. )

[GameFace]

Cool stuff guys!. When you get to animation and you need maya animators put me down I wouldnt mind helping out with a couple shots if im free. email ruelsmith@gmail.com
-Ruel

[TheCaveman]

here goes with some very small updates of concept I recieved yesterday thought I should post them before making an even bigger update :)


and this is some more concept for weapons :) the crossbow is for one of the main characters

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Sedeslav/private/Crossbow_1_800.jpg

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Sedeslav/private/sword_2___noble_horseman.jpg

[thebest]

wow great sketching man u rock :buttrock: u know if I have enough free time I would have given it a
try but grrrrrrr my exams stop me :banghead:

[TheCaveman]

Thanks thebest well there is still a lot of work left before realising anything so when you have some time feel free to give us a hand ;) thanks for the post appreciate them :)

here goes with some more updates (you'll probably say hum they go from futuristic to medieval?? euhm well yes. We started working on the "film" itself aswell next to the trailer and in this film we plan on doing a tather big medieval battle explaining some positions of the different vampire clans we have etc. so that is why the medieval art :) )

here are some new drawings made by: eljko Matuško aka Sedeslav

enjoy
greets
jozef

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Sedeslav/private/barbarian.jpg

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Sedeslav/private/barbarian_2.jpg

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Sedeslav/private/warhammer.jpg

and to stay in the future :
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Sedeslav/private/swat_attack_.jpg

[thebest]

oh man that dude have very good imagination keep going


Thanks thebest well there is still a lot of work left before realising anything so when you have some time feel free to give us a hand ;) thanks for the post appreciate them :)

cool ok dude I hope that time run so I can help u :bounce:

[TheCaveman]

Thanks thebest, hope to see you pop in at a moment :)

here goes with some more for the medieval battle

one of the clan leaders :

http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/259efcd0-Barbarian_vampir.jpg

the opposite clan leader:

http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/e8f48722-Faenaro_concept_.jpg

swordmen concept for the opposite clan

http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/10ddfd3d-Feaneros_armoure.jpg

pikemen concept for the same opposite clan

http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/39048e4b-spearman_2_studd.jpg

some wicked weapon

http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/6f3f13d1-daemon_flail_jpg.jpg

battle scene set-up

http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/071aef0c-the_battle_jpg.jpg

Thats it for now
thanks for viewing
greets
jozef

[thebest]

cool drawings asl always wanted to say I will finish my exams at 27-6
week and few days to model something :scream:

[TheCaveman]

cool drawings asl always wanted to say I will finish my exams at 27-6
week and few days to model something

it is the 27 :D let me know when you have some time thebest

Well it is me again showing some updates hope you like these ones

still made by Sedeslav but more for the modern part this time

this is one of the main characters :

http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/9237ca95-Jake_1_jpg.jpg
http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/f8e7dcf0-Jake2_jpg.jpg
http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/4874f59d-Jake3_jpg.jpg

and a part of the vampires the modern ones aswell and a bit more cruel then the other ones

http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/c092ef65-vampiresses_1_jp.jpg
http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/592730e9-vampiress2_jpg.jpg

the labcrew ( a part of it


http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Sedeslav/lab_crew.jpg

and we got a start on the clanleaders aswell here are the first three :)

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Sedeslav/clan_leader1.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Sedeslav/clan_leader3.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Sedeslav/clan_leader4.jpg

and finally something architectural for in the modern part of the city

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Sedeslav/Yacht_club.jpg

Thanks for viewing

greets

[Kid-Mesh]

Project looks goods, awesome sketch work.

[thebest]

hi josef was wondering if u received my messege

[TheCaveman]

Project looks goods, awesome sketch work.

Thanks Kid-Mesh appreciate that a lot especially coming from you


Well we're still alive. things are moving quite good. 3D Models start popping up a bit everywhere on the forums so I'm happy
the drawing still goes good aswell.

We had a first meeting with the voice actors for the trailer/teaser and will be recording some samples in the following week(s)

here are some updates

first of all the new train/transport concept made by Pmaz our newest concept artist (guy has some good skills )

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/Grotho/TrainAT2.jpg

and the station that goes with it :).

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/Grotho/TrainAT0001.jpg

sketches made by sedeslav :
the main character Jake ( male main character)
http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/4e93d36e-Jake_jpg.jpg
http://www.slibe.com/fullimage/d0e7b10a-Jake_1_jpg.jpg
and his friend who is going to die ( :evil: )
http://s2.slibe.com/fullimage/a94f0bb7-Chad_Glass_jpg.jpg
Omiqron Lab and jakes vehicule
http://s2.slibe.com/fullimage/c2a1a698-car_concept_1_jp.jpg
and some vampire rebels for in the trailer :
http://s2.slibe.com/fullimage/19ed9a4f-tree_vampire_reb.jpg

and last but not least at all : the main character herself: Abigail
http://s2.slibe.com/fullimage/dcdb6dd8-Abigail_jpg.jpg
time for some 3D
one of the rebels being modelled by the_best
http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/9541/legs12gz.jpg
and a start on the helicopter (I love how this one is turning out )



and once again last but not least :
the industrial area modelled by James (http://james.-caveman-digital.com/)
even higher rez: available here : http://www.3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/James_disconnected/indsheet1.jpg (have a look at it it is really amazing in detailing)
http://3d-caveman.com/team_ftp/James_disconnected/indsheet1small.jpg

[fabionguzman]

Nice project. I've been keeping up with it since you started posting. If you would have me I would love to do some character models for you based off some of your concept art. I've been out the loop because my girl just had a baby, This kind of project is just what I need to get me started again. I'll send you a e-mail with a few samples of mine

[TheCaveman]

Hi fabionguzman, thanks and we could definitly need your help :) I'll write you a PM with my email etc in it :)

glad you want to join :D

ps: I should have another update today or tomorrow

greets

[chien]

hi, just came across this thread.

I'm interested in this collaboration, I have some knowledge in 3ds max 6 in modelling which I could offer a hand in this , and if possible some concept art?

I can provide some links to my work if you guys woud some samples :-)

[TheCaveman]

It has been a while since I last time updated this thread so eventhough I'm also working with Boy1da (lovely project ;) ) this project is still very alive.

Recently laurentiu has quit the project so we had some loses in the conceptwork that had to be redone.
Sedeslav has been so kind to take everything on him and has done some incredible work here is the proof :

new helicopter :

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/1805/witchhunterhelicopterxh7.th.jpg (http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=witchhunterhelicopterxh7.jpg)

new swatleader :

http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/7963/swatleaderwn4.th.jpg (http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?image=swatleaderwn4.jpg)
new swat vehicule:

http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/8858/armouredtransporterla9.th.jpg (http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=armouredtransporterla9.jpg)

the new vampire rebels :

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8673/4rebelsvampmalaredov4.th.jpg (http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4rebelsvampmalaredov4.jpg)

I love this rebel :

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/6738/vampiressrebel1bc4.th.jpg (http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vampiressrebel1bc4.jpg)

and to prove my gratitude to sed

we offered him a character in the movie :

http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/433/selfportraitbysedeslavro7.th.jpg (http://img474.imageshack.us/my.php?image=selfportraitbysedeslavro7.jpg)

I should have some 3dmodels aswell pretty soon some are almost finished or are finished but would like to stick it all in one :)

greets
jozef

[TheCaveman]

welcome to the omiQron car factory :p.

first model made by Steve Cowling, second one made by diddy and the last two made by myself and texturing aswell during the last two days.
They probably still need some tweaking :

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/omiqron_transport16.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Maybach03.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/4x4%202.jpg
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/volvo%201.jpg

and last but definitly not least one of the characters coming to life :
made by Sylvain
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Sylvain/private/2(2).jpg

[BOY1DA]

Lots of kool stuff to look at in here.

Aways very good updates, the cars are look good too, they should look nice in the city streets.
I see some great character work too... looking forward to the next update :)

[toussaint]

hm awesome progress! that character looks SO good, if you can keep the whole level of quality up to that one, err... well god would be jealous i guess.

anyway, what's the cars purpose? are they only to fill the streets, like background, low detail-stuff, or do they get like bigger roles? if they do, iÄd say theyre a bit to simple/low detailed, especially the first two.
but anyway, really outstanding work, keep it up ladies!:)

[TheCaveman]

Thanks boy1da :D
talking about city streets :
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m310/vfx01/city-teaser-v2.jpg
(posted in the cgtalk gallery aswell :) )

Thanks toussaint. For the cars most of them will be in the background except for the first one which should get a bigger role. I've been playing with the textures and lightning etc to get it to look better and came up with this :

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/omiqron_transport22.jpg

and again last but this time very not least at all :) Sylvain has been working on the textures and I dont know for you people but I think it is turning out pretty damn great (even if I say so myself :) )

http://www.chezlacrevette.com/omicron/oldvampirewip7.jpg

and for the wires : http://www.chezlacrevette.com/omicron/oldvampirewip7b.jpg

[karabo]

I really love this project. I wish I could help out but unfortunately I'm working on my own film right now.
The main problem I find with this whole thing is that the quality level of the work is not consistent and so some of the models don't look like they fit in the same universe. For example, the city streets and Sylvain's vampire and the other buildings are at a much higher quality level than some of the cars, especially the last red one posted. I think this is just due to the skill levels of the artists and is not by any means an attack on any of the modelers. I think you guys should help each other to bring everything up to the same standard so that final piece will be amazing.
Great work though, I can't wait to see this finished.

[TheCaveman]

Thank you Karabo you have done some great work yourself aswell (had a little tour on your website and all :) impressive) if you have some time left to model a model or two feel free to jump in ;).

It is true what you're saying about the quality of different models. I think that all modelers we have in our team have talent but some have way more experience then others and we try to help out eachother as much as possible one of the main things I think in collab project like these. Some of the vehicules are ment to be low poly but then again even in lowpoly they should look conveincing but the red vehicule that was posted was intented to be a highrez model lol and I was really happy when I saw it. So I think I'll have to tweak my texturing skills a bit to give this vehicule its true value it deserves :)

Once again thank you very much for your post and well if you are bored for a couple of hours let me know I"m pretty sure I can find you something to do ;)

greets
jozef

[jtico]

Did somebody modeled the 'Yacht Club'? Because if not, I could do it.

[TheCaveman]

here is some new work done by Gahn one of the public transport vehicules: a bus

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/highview/images/BUs/wipPersp6.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/highview/images/BUs/wipPersp7.jpg

[TheCaveman]

well the first vampire character getting close to completion so I started working on his face: rig, skin and lipsync. so here is a first try (still soem things to tweak for exemple the upper teeth row going through lips) of a maaaad vampire hehe :)

(teeth and tongue arent textured yet)
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/wicked_insanity.mov

and here are some compositions Sylvain (Lacrevette) did

cheers
jozef

http://chezlacrevette.com/omicron/oldvampirewip17.jpg
http://chezlacrevette.com/omicron/oldvampirewip17nb.jpg

[GameFace]

Mr Cave Maestro ::crosses finger hoping this project is being down in Maya:: lol
I like your project its looking really cool. If you need help with some Animation I wouldnt mind helping out. You can check out my portfolio at www.reelruel.com (http://www.reelruel.com) Checkout the playblasts section because im not done putting my new reel together as of yet :) cool bro keep it a live
-Ruel

[justwanderedin]

Just wanted to chime in to say that the projects looks great so far!!



-----------------------
christopher dierks
music for film, television and interactive media

http://www.christopherdierks.de
http://www.myspace.com/christopherdierks

[TheCaveman]

Thanks Justwanderin. Glad u like it :D

Maestro GameFace: Well I think we can use your help a lot. the thing is because you are in maya I suppose u need full characters to animate and probably need to rig them in maya? I dont know if you can rig in maya or not or if you would like rigged characters :). I've been testing motionbuilder though and seems the going between the two packages goes easier but to avoid problems I'd like to give some shots where we only need two or three characters animated to avoid having to scale down the animation and stuff (dont know if thats really clear what I'm saying lol) but give you a shot you can complete and we just need to render in max :)
hope to hear from u soon

for those who might be following the project we finally made a decision about the title of the project which was pending between omicron and the black goddess etc etc so we finally came up with :

omiQron : Restless Eternity
that is why we asked kirt (thanks again ;) ) to change the title of the thread to the new one :)

more animation coming soon doing some wiring on a small 'interface' thingie to make it easy to animate hehe :)

here is some test stuff I did with the morph and my voice lol for those interested : http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/hail.mov

cheers
jozef

[TheCaveman]

here is some more:

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/final2.mov

he is now doing all the expressions he can do (without mixing them :) ) there is a problem with the coat that I'll have to fix

cheers
jozef

[Kid-Mesh]

Quality stuff in here. I cant see the mov clips because Im at work but the stills are very nice.

[TheCaveman]

Thanks Kid-Mesh I hope you'll have some time to look at the .mov files and let me know what you think of it and how we could improve it :)


well to stick with the deadline we would need a small number of cars :p (25 :eek:) so this is number 6 on the list an audi A6. modelled by myself during the weekend and the wheels done by Gahn who is still working hard on the bus :)

cheers
jozef

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Audi%20A814.jpg

[BOY1DA]

Looking good, your car modeling skills seem to be getting better all the time.
What render will you use in the end ?

I just remembered that I have a "VW JETTA" model I made awhile back.
If you want to use it let me know, I may have to dig up some pix to show you.
It it just the shell and it's wheels though.

I seen the head animation, maybe you should skin the coat on it's own.
Did you use a jaw bone for the face ? Working on fetch I found out that
having a jaw bone gives you some more flexibility for making faces.

Anyway I'm sure you will work it out just fine.


GOOD WORK !

[TheCaveman]

Thanks Boy1da :).
We'll be going for mentalray. It comes free with max so we'll try that one out. I had the chance to check brazil and vray and well brazil is a bit to instable to me and vray well don't know. So we went with mentalray :). (that was a lot to say nothing lool)

Ah any car is more then welcome :D would be really great. Shell and wheels are just fine with me, hehe really kind :).

Ah yes for the coat you're right working on the skinnning of it but because it isnt a complete rig but just the head and the neck max doesnt like it and wants to include the vertexes all the way down the coat which is useless so trying to figure that part out :).
for the head there is a jaw bone but the jaw (the corners of the mouth) dont really move like they should do. looks like they are pulled down somehow instead of the way they should move so right now I'm spending time in front of the mirror to see how my jaws really move while talking lol :)

Thanks for your reply :)
cheers
jozef

[donShole]

"Stop Staring: Facial Animation done Right (http://www.amazon.com/Stop-Staring-Facial-Modeling-Animation/dp/0782141293/sr=8-1/qid=1160585202/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-7633329-9554431?ie=UTF8)" has a good "how to" on the construction of facial shapes including how to use a jaw bone.

[BOY1DA]

Jozef,
Here is an image of the car model, it's not futuristic or anything.
It is actually a 2001 Jetta....

It needs a bit of work but not too much you pretty much have to shell it and mirror the other side.
If you still want to use it you may do whatever you like with it.
I put it on my server in the same place I put the files for the Tera model when
we were doing the motion builder stuff just look for a folder with your name on it .

The model was made in MAX 6 .

http://boy1da.com/CGTALK/JETTA_01.jpg

[TheCaveman]

That is looking nice and clean Boy1Da thanks a lot I'll keep you posted on how it will look :). gonna play a bit with it, do the symmetry and all :)

that is one less car to model :D

cheers

[TheCaveman]

here goes with another one the jaguar S :)

when searching for the next car I stumbled upon the site of "Dosch Design" they have some really nice collections of recent vehicules in the same style I was going for so I might pick some more from their list to model. I'll see if I can find the blueprints for those :)
anyway here is the update:

cheers
jozef

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Jaguar_02.jpg

[TheCaveman]

we have been quite for a while (6 days :p) but here is an update. The normal/regular swat team will look like this :

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Sylvain/swatmemberwip3%281%29.jpg

and a little turnaround (this version is a more developped one already so be sure to check it aswell :) )

http://www.chezlacrevette.com/omicron/test.mov
we should have some more coming up the coming days :)

cheers
jozef

[TheCaveman]

About time we showed some updates been a while :).

first of all for the characters the biggest part is shown here all done by Sylvain (Lacrevette) : http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=424878
so I wont be reputting the same images :)
but here is an exemple though:

http://www.chezlacrevette.com/omicron/swatmemberwip5a.jpg

next to that we have been working on some transport.
the bus done by gahn (entered into texturing :) )
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/highview/images/BUs/wipText1.jpg
and a mercedes A class I did (again without wheels hate doing those)
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Mercedes_A_09.jpg

a pen prop modelled by thebest (I like it a lot actually simple but effective :) )
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/2793/penvi9.jpg

and last but not least :) 3Deffects handed over the files for the appartement so right now I'm turning it all into a big mess

so this is what I came up with with adding in the detail (do I love the Ikea catalog)
Computer screen, laptop, mouse, mousepad, scanner and start of the printer done by 3deffects, pencil and mug(isnt in the scene yet) by ronson2k dustbin by gahn.
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/office14.jpg

cheers
jozef

[rajasekharan]

OMG....this is seriously beautiful stuff that i have seen....keep it up.....:)

[Juancheitor]

This thing is looking AWESOME, :applause::applause::applause:
I can´t wait to all that in movement!!

[TheCaveman]

Thanks rajasekharan we're still working hard on it :D hope to have something to show really soon :)

thanks Juancheitor. we can hardly wait aswell but we're getting there hehe :D

well while waiting for new year to arrive and hoping to get the things done in time here is a small update on two of our trailer characters that are fully finished now :)

full body renders to come soon :)

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Sylvain/private/lordvampire_reporter%281%29.jpg

[karabo]

Man, this project keeps getting better! Keep it coming.

[TheCaveman]

Well on behalf of the team and myself I wish you all a very happy new year, to all those who have been working for way longer in these collabs forums, those who check out the thread regulary and well all those who come by :) all the best

and we hope 2007 will be a great year for the project :). At the moment we're restructering everything make it even more solid after a year of work :) so we hope to have some updates during the coming weeks :)

cheers
jozef

[mitchelhunt]

whoa. this modeling and texturing is looking AWESOME. i'm loving every post ;)

[TheCaveman]

Thanks a lot mitchelhunt posts like that really keep us going :D thanks

here we are again with a small update on the industrial area :)
its almost done with unwrapping :)

this are some silos that are in there aswell :)

cheers
jozef

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/oil_Silos14.jpg

[softdistortion]

Looks nice...want to see more...closer shot please. :)

[jussing]

Still looking absolutely superb! :)

- jonas

[TheCaveman]

Thanks Jonas :D glad you like it :)


Thanks softdistortion :) here is the close up (I have to say myself that it looks better from far away :s I had to play quite a lot with the bumps etc giving it a "weird" look from close? or is that just me?

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/oil_Silos15.jpg

cheers
jozef

[softdistortion]

I hate when that happens...I have the same (but reverse) thing with one of the big airships we have on our project...looks good close, but then far away the dirt patterns look like a million little blotches.:)

Your texture all looks pretty good except for the bump you mention...You likely know what it needs and will fix it. However, if it's for backgrounds, in your distant shots look perfect.

[TheCaveman]

Yup its really annoying so to avoid switching between textures I maybe set up two exactly the same locations but one for close ups and one for distant shots but most of this will never be seen up close, lucky me :)

we have been recieving some great help today from a member of scifi meshes (Ramiel for those who might know him ) who has been texturing a warehouse today :)

cheers
jozef

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/warehouse05.jpg

[TheCaveman]

Time to dig this page back up with a an update that is a little more then just a picture or two :)

so I'm pretty proud to announce the new version of the website:
http://omiqron.caveman-digital.com/

I hope you'll enjoy the visit as much as we did designing it

cheers
jozef

[Grrrrrrr]

Hey man..cool website. Glad the project is not dead. I ve seen it way back on bage 3 or 4 while i was looking for my own project and felt a bit sad. :D

Keep up the good work!

[TheCaveman]

Thanks Grrrrrr, agree that we have been pretty damn quiet the last couple of months but I hope we'll got out of it soon same as your project which seems to have a sudden regain of life, keep it going aswell

Some more updates.

first of all a new section of the industrial area modelled by James Astley:

images:
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/559/192px0.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=192px0.jpg)http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6950/16ap3.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16ap3.jpg)http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4659/20bv6.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20bv6.jpg)http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2963/21nq1.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=21nq1.jpg)http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/860/13ml2.th.jpg (http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13ml2.jpg)http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3896/14po7.th.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14po7.jpg)http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3360/15jm1.th.jpg (http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15jm1.jpg)http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9449/18ey0.th.jpg (http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18ey0.jpg)

and an interior shot...
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2245/17zc7.th.jpg (http://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17zc7.jpg)


and some more work on the maglev system....
This time the bus (needs the wheels to get turned)

I think this might work aswell, it would be less expensive in an econimical perspective.... it would just ask a change of the suspension system instead of cutting out sides of the car and adding other mechanism then those in place?

so here my start on the detailing of the system:

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/bus_maglev.avi

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/bus01.jpg

cheers
jozef

[TheCaveman]

Its about time we showed some updates again :)

Were into storyboarding right now. First scenes are slowly but surely dripping in :)

this is James Astley doing some more modelling again :)

Cheers
jozef

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/james_disconnected/newstreet1.jpg

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/james_disconnected/newstreet3.jpg

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/james_disconnected/advert_tunnel5.jpg

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/james_disconnected/advert_tunnel3.jpg

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/james_disconnected/tankprocess1.jpg

[Leotril]

Hey ..

I like your proyect it has a lot of scenarios and a epic feel to it .. i had almost a year of experience in 3d i work mostly with maya and renderman .. i feel like my thing is shading and lightin ..last month i learn alot about GI and arch type of renders this month i decide to build a hangar im working on that this week..

i can send some renders if u like to your mail ? if u consider .. anyway great proyect adn good luck :thumbsup:

[TheCaveman]

Hey Leotril,

First of all thanks a lot for your interest and your reply.
We can still use all the help we can get especially on lighting and shading (got some models waiting lol).

if you could send some renders and well don't hesitate to subscribe at the forums:

http://forum.caveman-digital.com
hope to hear from you soon

Cheers
jozef

[diegopit]

Hi I´m Diego, the one doing the Delphinus Project.

I just wanted to say hi and that your project is awesome congratulations.


Good luck and keep with the great work.



http://www.delphinusproject.com

diegoherrera@delphinusproject.com (http://forums.cgsociety.org/diegoherrera@delphinusproject.com)

[thebest]

thanks friend for encouraging :thumbsup: good luck to u too

[TheCaveman]

Thanks theBest for falling in to make a reply :)

And thanks to diegopit for dropping in aswell :) ur project looks very promising aswell I've been keeping a close I on it :).

Just for info this project isn't that hehe :) but moving on slowly. We're doing quite some storyboarding right now to really get a solid base before throwing ourselfs back into modelling like mad people :)

Cheers
Jozef

[nzrkiwi]

looking for great projects so i can do some matte painting for if you need one get a hold me
your project looks awesome:)

[TheCaveman]

@nzrkiwi euhm sorry for the very very late reply I don't know but I never got a message about this post sorry for that. We could still use some help, I'll send you a PM today or tomorrow thanks for the interest and the compliment :)


Digging this thread back up. We're still alive and still working. Things start to take form slowly but surely here are some pics

Cheers
jozef

first of all the maglev system: (done by Gahn)
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/highview/images/MagLev/maglevTEXT%20WIP%207.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/highview/images/MagLev/maglevText%20wip%206.jpg


http://homepage.ntlworld.com/highview/images/MagLev/maglevTEXT%20WIP%204.jpg


and second the warehouse modelled by a new member: Leotril

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8521/int2clayyq5.jpg

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6370/54674960ap1.jpg

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4108/71598864wm1.jpg

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1170/29091631eq6.jpg

[TheCaveman]

We're still hanging in there... Last weeks have been rather calm around the project with me be overloaded with work and preparation for my move to Canada (Three months left muhaha :) ) So well we decided to focuss more on the story (our script writer or rewriter went a little nuts so well she left.... so it is back to the writing part)

Well we kinda realised (or I realised) is that there was a massive lack of organisation from my part and that if we don't organise the project would be doomed... So well we'll be moving slowly the idea being to have a script to work with at the end of the year before going all wicked with modelling and concepting etc. We'll continue modelling of course there are some things about which we're sure we'll need them so those will go on the rest well will need to wait :)


So in our attempt to improve organisation I've been working on a scripting tool that would allow easy management and organisation of the project. It is getting quite complete and big but well better take some time to do it good.

So I thought I could throw a few pics online of the tool (I'll be realising it as freeware once it is working so that other collabs can use it (had a little talk about it with Softdistortion as well))

So here are some pics and well we're still alive.

Cheers
jozef

So this is what it looks like. As you can see you'll have the possibility to do plenty of things. Make a complete storyline with images, put your script in it, make clans, characters, technologies etc in a structured way following a sheet with characteristics on it with the most common info on it.

Now to make it usefull for a collab team it is definitly necessary to be able to share the info so there is an export function that with an XML and XSL file creates a layout as a webpage which is uploadable to the internet. You get the xsl file with the program so you can adapt it to your needs :) here is a small sample of the xml+xsl file

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/StockArray/XML/omiqron.xml

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/StockArray/storytracer5.png

[donShole]

Hi Caveman,

I'm always impressed by the assets in this project. So now that you are sorting out your project management, when are you actually going to start animating stuff? (hint hint :) )

[TheCaveman]

Hi donShole thanks for the reply :)

Well animation is still rather far away (reason why we're reorganizing lol, the last couple of months there has been hardly any progress leading us back to rewriting the script) (one of the new features of the reorganisation: http://forum.caveman-digital.com having a complete portal to share and upload things and trying to build in my little application so uploading sheets is a piece of cake

There are some small plans going on though that might need some animation rather soon if all goes well.
We kinda decided to work on some small shorts to train and keep things going while writing the new script in the end it should be all benefit. I'll probably make a new thread for the first short, we'll see how things progress :)

anyways thanks for dropping in and well if we start animation count on me for letting you know ;)

cheers
Jozef

[MrNovak]

Just asking, but what happened to the writer (he/she left the team)? Why I ask? Because I'm a fan of the project and if you could spare a couple of words here if you think it PERTINENT, otherwise nevermind :twisted: . What part/positions are occupied? You should give a little review of your TEAM here, so people can see who makes what and if someone has time could join in, right? Perhapc making a little review what happened last year or two (what happened in the project department), because from the point of a normal viewer and fan I only see postponning and nonrealisation of the project? Call me pesimist If you want.
I know you have a work in real life and probably the members of the team, but if you could give yourself and your team some small deadlines I think you could go forward. Don't do a super-cool-badass-stateoftheart-homepage now, loosing precious time. Make a simple one and concenrate on theproject. Make the homepage as you guys proceed.
I don't know... like you said script untill DEC 07, model of main characters untill MAR/APR 08, basic walkcicles and run cicles untill MAY/JUN 08 (in the meantime you construct also some of the scenes). A short trailer/teaser untill end of AUG 08.

Please, don't take this as a negative critique, but I see you're in a point now from where you are unable to go froward. I'd like to STRESS again that I'm a fan here and Am ROOTING for you all so I'd really like to see this project going forward!

take care...

[DanielWray]

Hey,

nice looking project, some really nice art work and i like the story.

just wondering if you(s) are looking for artists to join?

PM me if you are, cheers.

keep up the good work :)

[donShole]

Hi donShole thanks for the reply :)

Well animation is still rather far away (reason why we're reorganizing lol, the last couple of months there has been hardly any progress leading us back to rewriting the script) (one of the new features of the reorganisation: http://forum.caveman-digital.com having a complete portal to share and upload things and trying to build in my little application so uploading sheets is a piece of cake

There are some small plans going on though that might need some animation rather soon if all goes well.
We kinda decided to work on some small shorts to train and keep things going while writing the new script in the end it should be all benefit. I'll probably make a new thread for the first short, we'll see how things progress :)

anyways thanks for dropping in and well if we start animation count on me for letting you know ;)

cheers
Jozef

Cool, I look forward to it :).

[TheCaveman]

@donShole: I'm planning on maybe making another thread for the shorts but well not sure when yet but you'll see it popup in the collab section ;)

@Daniel: Just dropped you a pm and thanks for the support ^^

@MrNovak: No offence taken don't worry.

Why she left/got kicked is because she went a little wicked on us saying things as: "I don't know why I'm doing this because well you people are useless, there is nothing in it for me" etc. etc. so well it was getting a little to annoying and well even "painfull" with some of the insults we recieved so time to do some cleaning ;)

I'll go through your different points as I read them to give some sort of answer to all the questions :)

you are right about the fact that the project isnt moving on... One of the reasons was that we spent a year rewriting the script (might be long... but we had the time to work on it only a couple of hours a week) during that time some people joined, others left (mainly for lack of time reasons) and well we kinda got stuck.
Add to that my lack of organisation the last year and you arrive at the point we are now ^^.

That is why I've put everything down to "basics" and setup the new forum (which only took a day or two ;) so we didnt loose much time there, but with this new website we can organise files, tasks etc. which is a big need to get things going again).

to go on with the planning you gave it is rather impossible. When I started the project as a collab the points you annonced were planned liked that but never turned out like that. We kinda never know what might happen. You assign a task to somebody and all of a sudden the person disappears so when the deadline approaches you're left with nothing and well that is kinda the risks of collab working and it wont change as long as we stay a collab :). We had that with the two teasers that were planned and finally decided to work only on the main and forget about the teasers and just take footage from the main avoiding double work

This is the main reason why we'll take some more time to work out the script in detail. even if we go beyond the december limit and once it is finished have something solid that might even take omiQron out of the collab world but that is just dreaming for now.

Another something that comes closer and closer isi that at the end of this year I'll be leaving for Vancouver and will be attending the 3d program at VFS so during that year I'll be a little absent as a team lead and so we decided as a team to take that year to work essentially on short movies. Imrpove skills, have fun and increase our portfolios. During that time we'll go on with working out omiQron and when I'm back we can pick the whole project back up

(euhm this becoming rather long lol, sorry for that)
To sum it all up: yups we've put ourselfs in a rather big mess at the moment, and without a decent script we can't go any further like you said. So the script will become the main priority for the time it will need. but I'll assure you that one day we'll finish :D

Once again thanks for your feedback and it is good to hear that there are actually people waiting for us to move on and we'll do our best


Cheers
Jozef

[TheCaveman]

After the very long text from yesterday here are some images on the tool we're building to improve the organisation of the project and work on the file sharing system...

I've been mainly working on the character and script parts.
So it is now possible to write the script inside StoryTracer or link a html, rtf or txt file to it and be able to edit it like you want. It is a small notepad inside storytracer. Here is a screenshot (still need to add some buttons)


http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Storytracer/cap15.png


That is for the storywriting.
Now some of the character profile sheet

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Storytracer/cap16.png

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Storytracer/cap17.png

Some features:
As you can see on screenshot 1 there is a media section. So you can import refs, concepts, renders etc into storytracer and have them close whenever you need them. avoiding the "search your harddisk". And well you can add refs but it would be rather annoying to download an image from the internet open it with paint/photoshop or other tool to make some selections of the image, add some text, do some cropping.
So I integrated (not in the screenshots yet) a small tool allowing all that. So imagine you use your favorite browser, copy in image to the clipboard, go inside storytracer and paste it as media that you can edit, add notes etc. should save quite some time I think? and well we're building in a small adapted for storytracer webbrowser so that things can go even faster. Some more screens from that later on.

Another thing that will be changing is that instead of having all the drop down inside the storyline it will become visual and graphic so you can organise and reorganise the storyline easily with drag and drop

That is about it for now, Hoping the tool catches some attention and don't hesitate to give comments, crits, suggestions it will be a freeware tool after all so it might as well contain the features you would need :)

Cheers
Jozef

[osseuslabyrint]

Hey, if this is going to be a movie short, do you need an audio guy? im willing to offer my services.

[TheCaveman]

Thanks osseuslabyrint, count on me for contacting you shortly. we're moving on slowly but surely and could use some sound and audio d

We're still alive and kicking as always :)
The omiQron project is in the middle of heavy brainstorming and rewriting so those updates are rather slow.

We have made some rather big progress on the software though so it isn't probably the most interesting in a 3d wip thread but I'll share the progress :)

The major change (which you can't really see) is that we have integrated a database which wasn't planned at the beginning but it speeds things up quite a little :).

The character integration is almost finished now and almost working as well. The biggest update (which was done this weekend) is the integration of a wizard to create a new project.

I've also been thinking that it might be nice to include some versioning on the scripts allowing creation of minor and major changes and avoiding the loss of all the progress on the script (It is always nice to be able to read through the entire progress of a script I'd say)

So here are some images taken from the tool (feel free to comment, crit and give your ideas of what would be nice to see in the tool)

Cheers
Jozef

the main interface.
On the screen is a small window with the project properties. It will disappear when loosing focus. just to get a quick glimps at some properties without having to click on tens of buttons to get it
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Storytracer/cap33.png

and the wizard:
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Storytracer/wizardStep1.png
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Storytracer/wizardStep2.png
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Storytracer/wizardStep3.png
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Storytracer/wizardStep4.png

[Lacrevette]

this software looks so pro jozef. I whish you the best with this :D

[TheCaveman]

Thanks Sylvain for dropping in :) always good to hear from you :).

I made some more progress on the tool. First one being the possibility to rip a tab page from its tab strip. Imagine ur working on your script and you need a couple of sheets to have a look from time to time. It would be rather annoying to have to switch tabs every time you look for something... especially when you have a dual screen setup and only one is being used.... So I came up with the possibility to open a tab in its own window (of course it is still possible to edit information as the menu that belongs to the window is passed on as well, right now in the screenshot you see two menus but they have been merged since and so you have a full screen to write text and your menu being at the same place everytime)

I'll post this picture in a link because it is a 2560*1024 so it might take some time to load :)
This feature is fully working and ready to be tested :)
dual screen setup (http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Storytracer/cap37.png)

The character wizard is almost done. I've put a lot of time into designing the simplest way to use the character sheets and all so hope it is as usefull as I hope it'll be

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Storytracer/cap39.png


Now the next screen comes together with the idea of expanding the desktop tool to a webtool as well. So I had build a small webbrowser a while back and thought it might come in handy to have a webbrowser integrated. Especially because of some secure connections that will allow FTP uploading and remote database access and could eventually update project websites. This will also allow direct integration of media into the software.

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Storytracer/cap41.png


and last but not least, one of the sheets completly working. The smallest one and concerns everything about the different "ages" in your project. for example in omiQron we have a part in the middle ages a parti n today and a part in the future :)

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Storytracer/cap43.png


More to come soon :)

Cheers
Jozef

[TheCaveman]

The poor little tool.... it has suffered some big surgery this weekend and I finally found an interface that actually looked like one :). It took two months of research though to get it where I wanted it :)

here is a screenshot:
http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Storytracer/cap54.png

As you see it now has its webbrowser integrated, as well some remote access features.
The menu has been rebuild, and still need some fixes. All panels are collapsable (except the center one) the menu is collapsable as well.
A lot of shortcuts have been build in and the biggest part of the interface can now be adapted to your likes.
oh btw this is the dark version, but there will be several other color schemes available as well as making ur own.


If somebody is interested I'm looking for some people to test the "remote connection" to a MySql database; I'm with mavenhosting and they allow remote connections to a database but not all providers allow this so I would like to gather a small list of providers who do allow this type of connections.

To do so I made a small tool that you can get here (http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Storytracer/setup.zip)
it will ask for the IP address of your server (or simply the .com, .net or .something address) the database name (a mysql database is required) to which you would like to connect and finally the username and password for this database (not the FTP one)

for example my server is:
caveman-digital.com

I have a database called:
storytracertest

I'm user:
TheCaveman

and my password would be: (if it would exist ;) )
caveland

just replace these infos with your info from your website and hit the "test connection" button

Thanks in advance
Cheers
Jozef

[donShole]

Hi Jozef,

Your collab tool, seems to be coming along really well.
Tried the remote connection and it couldn't connect. I'm hosted on yahoo. Mind you I can't log into my control panel right now either - although the site itself is fine.
here is my error log :

Connection error
Unable to connect to any of the specified MySQL hosts.
at MySql.Data.MySqlClient.NativeDriver.Open()
at MySql.Data.MySqlClient.MySqlPool.GetPooledConnection()
at MySql.Data.MySqlClient.MySqlPool.GetConnection()
at MySql.Data.MySqlClient.MySqlConnection.Open()
at Sql_Connection_Test.Form1.btnTest_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
Connection error
Unable to connect to any of the specified

[TheCaveman]

Thanks donShole for testing.

I did some googling on the error and there could be two reasons for the error. One being the server that hosts the database is offline (which could correspond to you not be able to log in to your control panel) the second one would be a firewall problem on the server side who doesn't allow remote connections :(
which is the error I was afraid of...

I'll try and contact Yahoo to see if they do allow remote connections. I do hope it is just a problem at yahoo though ^^

Once again thanks for testing

Cheers
Jozef

[softdistortion]

sorry I've been tardy on testing Josef. Will still get to it. :wip:

[TheCaveman]

No problem softdistortion I hardly had any time to work on it this week.

I got your message and it is the typical bug of not having the remote access allowed. I'll try and catch you on msn during the weekend :)


Wanted to do some more graphics for storytracer today so made the splashscreen (or remade it :) ) this is what it looks like:

http://caveman-digital.com/team_ftp/Jozef/private/Storytracer/Storytracer_logo.png

Hope you like it.
I should have some more screenshots tomorrow and probably even a small test page if all goes well.

Thanks for reading

Cheers
Jozef

[TheCaveman]

Well we're still hanging in there. Unfortunatly I hardly have any time to keep omiQron going but we'll be back ^^.

I was in norway last week because of work so didnt had the time I would have liked to work on Storytracer but I made some progress during the weekend.

After several results of the "remote connection tool" and some talks on msn with softdistortion I decided to with php and mysql to fix the remote access problem and started workking on "templates". Now each section has its own file and template with a rather simple piece of sql code in it.

This would mean that you can do with the templates what you like and thus update ur website, forums etc without adapting it to storytracer but adapt the templates a little. There should also be some sort of editor for the templates inside storytracer but well need to see how far I can take that before the first release.
But this part is working now and I'm moving on to the next step which is remote login. I would like the tool to be able to use the database with the user table (like the one from a forum, custom website?) to do the logins and this way give access to a project without having to duplicate information and stuff :).

I would also like to finish the icons for the program. I did some cleaning and kept only the icons I made or had the right to you use and avoid like that any problems with icons found on the internet.

and last but not least generate a project file that should be distributed among the team members to "import" the project. Need to make some final security decisions and then it should be done. That is what is on the menu for the coming 4 days :)

I'll try and upload some pics later today

Cheers and thanks for reading
Jozef

[softdistortion]

Just dropping in to let you know there's people pulling for you on your project.
Your progress is impressive. :thumbsup:

PS: After we talked last time I was really thinking about the offline, online work method, this is potentiall going to be a big workflow flexibility asset imo...makes me think of alienbrain.
Hope to catch you again for more ideas interchange...:)

[TheCaveman]

Hi to all,

First of all merry christmas to everybody hope you had a great day :).

Thanks Softdistortion for the help and the support really very much appreciated.

I managed to keep my schedule sort of hehe :) online logins is now possible, remote databases is the past everything is done through vb and php so that problem is fixed you can integrate storytracer anywhere you want without adapting your websites.

Working on some presets for sites like Joomla; SMF, PHPBB.
The icons are mostly ifinished aswell and there are 7 storytracer file types to share, distribute files even without a website.

Unfortunatly I dont have any screenshots everything is packed and ready to be send to Vancouver. Tomorrow I'm taking the plane. I probably wont have internet for a while, nor a computer so it might get a little quite in here for a couple of weeks but I plan to be back in the beginning of january.

In the meanwhile have a great holiday and happy 2008 :)

Cheers
Jozef

[TheCaveman]

Hi to all again.

happy new year first of all. Well I savely arrived on the other side of the atlantic ocean and got myself settled down in Vancouver. VFS will be starting tomorrow and from what I heard of it, it'll be some serious load of work but well it is fun work to do so that isn't a problem :D

So during one year omiQron might move even slower then it is already eventhough behind screens we re still working on the script and all so I hope to get things going again as they where in a year.

I'll keep on working on storytracer because it might even be usefull here at VFS to plan the final reel and all I hope to have something ready pretty soon to let it be tested. I.ll need to see how much time VFS is asking and how much time would be left to do actual software programming but it'll be ready during the coming month I hope

Cheers
Jozef

[TheCaveman]

Just kinda trying to keep the thread alive.

As I posted before VFS is a whole lot of work hehe. we have at least 5 assignments a week plus a lot of other stuff to go over but well it is great being in there and to be able to spent whole days only on 3d.

storytracer is suffering from it right now but that shuold be fixed because of some group projects going on at VFS.

Well to keep things going... U guys remember that huge battle sequence I talked about a year ago? well it actually has a horse (well unicorn) in it :P....

This was our first 3d assignment here at VFS and thought I could push it just a little further by adding in some armor and all.

So a first wip in a looong time
Cheers
Jozef

ps: Cyril u'll probably come by here, I still havent forgotten to send you an email :) I'll get to it, promise :) Stand strong

http://www.caveman-digital.com/3d/Horse9.jpg

http://www.caveman-digital.com/3d/Horse10.jpg

[osseuslabyrint]

Hi Caveman

how you enjoying Vancouver so far? A while back, I expressed my interest doing audio (music or sound design) for omiQron, just want to let you know that im still on board. Im working in a project studio in North Vancouver, so we can get some pretty quality audio done here, including voice actors.

I like the stuff you got going on. Ive started working out some music inspired from this project. Ill get back to you when its a little more polished.

[thebest]

cool work mate keep going :thumbsup:

[FeCyril]

Dont worry about it I know ye are busy;)When you have time send it over:thumbsup::beer:

[TheCaveman]

Wow we actually made it to the 2 year mark. Eventhough things appear rather dead and quiet in here for a couple of months now I still plan on finishing this project and take it as far as possible so please bear with us through the struggle in completing this project :)

I would like to thank everybody that have dedicated a lot of their time to the project so far and I truely hope that they stick around for a little longer. not only did we learn a lot but some of you people have become very good friends :)

Cheers
Jozef

ps: Cyril, I m sooooo sorry for not having responded yet :s next week I got a couple of days "off" I promise I ll write back :)

[FeCyril]

Well a few days off is great mate:)Looking forward to your mail:thumbsup:

Cheers mate:)

[TheCaveman]

Hello everybody,

It has been quiet in this project for a while now and not sure what is still alive of it ^^. But I have around 50 days left at VFS and then I'm done and job hunt will start but I would like to try and ressurect (if there is anything to ressuect at all ^^) and try and get the project going again in 2009. So wondering who was still around and who is still interested in getting it going again, knowing that we might have to start from scratch and come up with a solid plan ^^

hope to see you guys soon
Cheers
Jozef

[Lacrevette]

that sounds pretty good jozef :)

[FeCyril]

I am in mate as always..Heh now even more eager to get it on.:D

[TheCaveman]

Well the new year is hear time to get things up and going again.
I m done at VFS currently job hunting but hey in the meanwhile got some free time ^^.

Things will change a lot with this new year. the story, the setting the whole project pretty much from scratch to be honest but we kinda had too since the omiQron story was to close to the Twilight story so what we are working on now is never done and doesnt exist :p or at least i didnt find anybody doing it so far :p.

A new workspace is up and running its still empty but well it is brainstorming time for the story and script. so if you guys feel like helping out or giving input etc would love to hear about it ^^. so the new omiqron can be found here:
http://nox-noctis-templum.caveman-digital.com/

if you know a bit of latin you could find the new setting in the link hehe ^^ as well as the new idea in the name.
Hope to see you guys there soon

Cheers
Jozef

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