The Journey Begins Challenge (3D) Entry: Toni Bratincevic

[InTerceptoV]

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This was my intial sketch. Nothing special but just to show some elements quickly. The story is about gods who lived in this great fortress far away in the heaven. The belief in them were the main reason why they lived, but since time passed by and people forgot about them, the reason for they existance were lost ... a lot of them dissapeared and died and with only few of them left they decided to pick one and send him to the earth with mission to restore faight.
What I want to show in this picture is a old man (god) at this dock thinking what could he except when he comes to earth, and in the same time I want to show the sadness because he are leaving his home. The journey begins, and what he could expect when he comes to earth is something that even he doesnt know.

[InTerceptoV]

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I didnt signed in the challenge but I started few days ago so thats why I will post my work till now.

So this was my first layout. I decided for the portrait format of image because that was the only way to show the giant structure in the back. The structure is mostly made with gothic architecture on the top, and at the botton is are the metal part structure on which the gothic arch were build. Even the characters dont know who build it ... they assume it was created by the unified life energy of humas.

[moh-taia]

Welcome . i like your story gooood luck .

[InTerceptoV]

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This is the modeling start. Everything would be done in the separate groups like window01 window02 etc so I can easily combine them in the future. I decided to create few type of windows, from small ones to big ones, some arches, fences, and other type of building blocks so that is my task whis week. Maybe in the few days I will have some rough model of cathedral.

So here is the first window form my first day of work which was two days ago...

[InTerceptoV]

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And the render test from yesterday when I modelled arches. This is just a test render so I suppose the windows wont be placed like in this one in the final cathedral model.

[authentic]

Great lighting and modelisation. But your sketch idea is not clear to me realtive to the aim of the challenge. I don't see what is relative to a journey.
Anyway good job.

[zem]

That's really beautiful. I think the light burn out will work well for being in "heaven".

Nice story too. Have you thought any on how you will display the start of a Journey?

Keep it up:thumbsup:

[InTerceptoV]

authentic:
The sketch was just quick (2 min) drawing which is pretty different from the idea what I had now but I decided to post it because it was a start. Idea is abut a god who left his home (that building in the back) on the journey to earth...

zem:
yest i thought about how to display a start ... there are two ideas at the moment but I must decide which one suits better. I know they suggest that you show the background where the character is going, but I decided to go backwards (what he left behind) because my character doesnt know where he is going it just know that he must go there.

[SuperXCM]

Hello!

Like the render and modeling, amazing!! :eek:
Waiting to see how you make your compo!!

Good luck and have fun!! :beer:

[Vedic-kings]

Wow awesome modeling and great render!

Keep it up:thumbsup:

[InTerceptoV]

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Hi.

I didnt post anything since some time. I like to do some work and then show it so here it goes ... few of my last steps.
At the moment I am working on the back building ... the BIG church. It will be rendered in few layers since it will have around 5-6 milions of polys till the end and my computer cant chew up that much.

So here it is the first blocking and begining of modelling of that great building.

[InTerceptoV]

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And after the few passes here is the part where things got some form and overall scale. I basically model everything but I will do some optimizations at the end.

One important decision is to go with as much instances as I can. So there is a little shelf of the objects I already made which I copy-instance and place on to the scene. Everything could not be done this way, so for some parts of the scene I export the simple bounding box or low poly object where it needs to be placed and model in separate scene. After I do the import and the saga continues...

[M477]

Nice work! That is a BIG church.. As for rendering out the final image in stages and compositting it together, I would love to see how you manage this effectively as I am not too familiar with the process. Keep it up though, it's looking very grande

:wip:

[InTerceptoV]

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This is just an example of the ideas which I paint over last rendered image to give a visual idea of what else should be done.

I paint with my mouse so this looks terrible but it is enough. And yes, the wacom is comming this week so I suppose this kind of sketches would be better. :)

[InTerceptoV]

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It slowly evolves and everyday something new apears. It tends to reach heavens, and I will not stop until that happens. :)

Ok so this was made yesterday. The part at the level of the bridge is what I am working on now. I will try to finish it today ... but I will se how tired would I be after work.

So basically I changed the idea a little bit. The area below the structure will be a place where field of planets would be placed. Near every planed would be a sign of what is the population of the planed, what kind of creatures are living on it and percent of belief + the last time god visited the planet. So in the first plan there would be my little god jumping on to the eart which is some kind of portal to it.

Thats it for now. If idea evolves more I will send another description.

[MichaelZHsee]

this is just crazy~i cant crit or comment.:eek:keep it coming mate

[Stefan-Morrell]

awesome,that big arch is a great touch,looking forward to more

[Tigrenka]

Wow! Great modeling! Iwanna see this textured, It'll be wonderful!

[adel3d]

Stunning work so far!
nothing to say just I'll follow your thread.The architectural ideas are great .You are among the finalists.

[Lemog]

Hey Toni... what a great project here... I really like your universe for sure... I have much interest to follow your work now... best wishes for the nesxt steps, it's already passionating... go mate :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: details power :scream: :thumbsup:

[simovici]

Very nice project, and a lot of details. I love it. Keep it up.:bowdown:

[fer3d]

Loods wonderful. And the scale is so big. Glad you're in!

fer

[smallone3d]

Wow, the details are just awesome!
This looks massive.
Do the details help in the depiction of the idea of the journey. Just asking so we don't loose the feel. My 2 ¢s

cesar

[arte-i45]

Hey man excellent job on the modeling, it is looking really good! :applause: I'll be looking forward to seeing it progress.

Matt :)

[Vedic-kings]

Awesome! Great details.

Keep it up man:thumbsup:

[Nomad]

Wow :eek: you did an exellent architecture modeling here :thumbsup:


I`m looking forward to see more :bounce:


Good luck and have fun :beer:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

This is some serious Crazy-NUTS modeling here....very beautifull architecture work..and detailed ...:bounce:

[kfc]

ur skills are crazy!
:eek:
I can't imagine I can do what u are doing in such short time.
I always suck with architectural stuff.
:applause:

[theWOODman]

Wow, I love it!

The way you have your camera set up and the lighting makes it look like you're really there. Great detail, but I bet that's gonna be a monster to texture though.

[shakes]

that's completely mental! brilliant work..it's looks fantastic!

[kary]

Wow thats just excellent :thumbsup:

[loverdose]

only one word: awesome.

I couldn't pass this thread without showing my appreciation.

[se7enthcin]

Crazy nice work. I love your archetecture. :)

[doffer]

As always your work impresses me.
Great detail.
I'm looking foreward to follow this thread.
If you could put some of the same atmosphere in this one, as in the rest of your work, I'm sure it'll be awsome.

[alvin-cgi]

Very impressive work, good details.
Currently I am modeling the architecture design, and sure I will learn something from yours...:)


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Spectacular 3D (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=275950&highlight=alvin)

[Lemog]

I must acknowledge that I'm really impatient to discover the next step of your work Toni... plizzzzzzzzzz :wip:

[barbapapa]

great modeling. really nice detail. Willing to see how it develops. Best luck man , and keep it up

[InTerceptoV]

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Hi.

First thanks for nice comments. It really get me motivated to do more and more. The only problem is that in the morning I come to job little tired ... anything for art :)

This is the render from yesterday. But it is not complete render ... I pasted only a part which I worked on and that is another church in the middle. I suppose I would need aditional 4 hours to finish this part. The next area of interest is the bridge and the arch so it is the next step to do...

I got the idea how to get the dirt on to the temple. The final render will be done in two passes .... one with pure brick without dirt and other complete dirty. Then after that I will paint transparency in Photoshop where the dirt should apear. I don't know if this would brake any rules, what do you think ... please help?

[jamwae]

wow, that's really great detail

[XenObuS]

Waouuu!!! it's beautiful...

very nice job :bowdown:

[Paravalerium]

Woow, very cool church!!!

[Lemog]

Then after that I will paint transparency in Photoshop where the dirt should apear. I don't know if this would brake any rules, what do you think ... please help?
You can do that without prob... in fact... that can be a "normal" work for a Cg Pro... in production... this kind of things are very common... why take more time to do something in 3d if that can be easily and faster in 2d... it's the compositing step...

...but of course... we have 3 months to finish our pieces... and for the pleasure or for exercise us... we can do all in our 3d software... :beer:

[Inxa]

wow another massive architectural work :thumbsup:

brilliant detailing.

keeping a check on this thread now ;).

[nec977]

I seen real structures and curches that lack detail and look poor comperd to your model:))
we are all waiting for next step. Brilliant work ....

[freddylierman]

Very nice work mate.
Love the details.
Looking forward to seeing this one textured and lighted :)
Keep it up!

[InTerceptoV]

You can do that without prob... in fact... that can be a "normal" work for a Cg Pro... in production... this kind of things are very common... why take more time to do something in 3d if that can be easily and faster in 2d... it's the compositing step...

...but of course... we have 3 months to finish our pieces... and for the pleasure or for exercise us... we can do all in our 3d software... :beer:

Hi Lemog. Yes three month is long time but maybe not enought if you work maximum 3-4 hours per day. My only problem is that I am not so familar with the character modeling so I would probably spend much more time for that than for background. Thats the main reason why my strategy with texturing will not be to do UV mapping and texturing but direct planar or triplanar projections (this doesnt need UVs) which is the reason to do 2 passes and paint the transparency of dirt after rendering...

Well, as I finish this big temple I will make a few tests of this technique and we will see what can I do with it...

[InTerceptoV]

BTW to all who gave me nice comments ... big thanks.

I will be off for two days so the next adittion to my model is probably comming at sunday...

Thanks again.

[Lemog]

Okay I understand well... so compositing then :thumbsup: The result is already very good... I'm sure thah will work very good at final...

[InTerceptoV]

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The newest one. I spend some time on the middle level of the structure. It's funny how things look more datailed when I worked on this part separately. And in the final picture they are so small... :(

OK. So this version has about 2 mil polygons. I optimized some models and will do the same in next step.

Now the bridge and few more details around this part of structure.

[Inxa]

Hello,

That's wonderful. Can we have some close shots ;). Specially the circle carved over the entrance gate :)

good work :buttrock:

[Nomad]

Great update, your model have fantastic details :thumbsup:

[darthviper107]

That is some very nice architecture, I hope this concept works out well for you.

[Greatto]

Its perfect design of this gothic monument!
like architect i say yes, its wonderfull

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[FlaminGlow]

InTerceptoV, great modeing, i wish you good times texturing it, BTW the lighting is good too. about details you mentioned you did and they look so small, i think it is only a matter of resolution in the final image yours will be so high resolution so tinny details will definatly appear and make difference.

[Lemog]

héhé... 2 millions... :thumbsup: ...but that give us something very original...

[ThierryS]

Awsome work, modeling and design! :bounce: Good luck with this entry! I'll keep a constant open eye on your thread man!:thumbsup:

[InTerceptoV]

Lemog ...
It is a little bit smaller now. I decided to get rid of some polygon loops to get things faster. At the moment I am working on the bridge which will produce bunch of new polygons so I must keep in balance all the scene.

Inxa ...
I will make some renders with other camera views, but after I finish this part. One friend already asked me to do the render of the carved window ... so I probably should. :)

FlaminGlow...
Yes you are right. All those details would be visible in the end. The resolution I am using for rendering these tests is 50% smaller than the final so I suppose that is enought to make the predictions what would be or not be visible at the final resolution.

Also big thanks for the other comments ...

[shakes]

fantastic detail again..! 2 mil polys eh? hopefully you don't have to move it too much in the viewport! brilliant work, and very realistic. inspiring stuff!

[ChewyPixels]

2 million polys!! :eek: How's your machine handling it?

Keep on rockin'! :thumbsup:

[InTerceptoV]

The last statistics show that there are two milion polygons. But I use a lot of instances so I am not really sure if that information is true. The main thing is that I build everything so I can easily remove polygon loops ... and thats what I am doing when I want to optimize the scene.

And everything works fine in viewport... but the file is around 140 MB at the moment and it will probably grow up as I come to the end of this part.

[Eratrioch]

Great detail and original gothic style architecture . Cant wait to see this finished!

[thedirtypaw]

moving around great with 2 milion polyz in the viewport ? and you have 1 gig of video ?:scream:

[Alberto_Ro]

Wow, your work is really colossal! And it´s awwsome! :applause:
No critics... just.... wow

[InTerceptoV]

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Ok ... I didnt send something in a long time. :)

So here are the few updates. This was the process of modeling the bridge. As in the whole temple I have used elements that I already have ... so instanced it few ten times. There is also the part on the right side on the other side of the bridge ... again instances and instances.

So this will be the 90% finished model of the middle part of the temple. There is still upper part to be done, but I will concentrate now on the land below the temple....

[InTerceptoV]

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So this was the first step for the front land. I used one photo that I found on internet and just put it there for the visual representation of what the character would look like.

I also sketched the land a little bit...

[zaki79]

great work Toni! I really wonder how Your machine will handle another milion of faces. I don't know if You are working on 3dsmax but if You do I think You may encounter some problems later. It has been known that large files (high-polycount) can crash max - don't forget about final res. of Your work -but I guess it had already been said :)

very nice mood and lighting there -is it HDRI only ?

keep up the great work !

[InTerceptoV]

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I started yesterday to model some stuff in front of the camera. So here is the planet and the land. There are still many things to add here (grass, wood, little road ...) ... this is just a start.

Maybe I will have something tomorow...

[DimitrisLiatsos]

The last statistics show that there are two milion polygons. But I use a lot of instances so I am not really sure if that information is true. The main thing is that I build everything so I can easily remove polygon loops ... and thats what I am doing when I want to optimize the scene.

And everything works fine in viewport... but the file is around 140 MB at the moment and it will probably grow up as I come to the end of this part.


Your work on this awesome...in order to keep this manageable..maybe u should start referencing models...in what app u are working this?...must remember also that with textures and shaders this will go up ..at least 20 mbytes. Hope u continue on this.:bounce:

[bearfoot]

yee gods man that some damm impressive modelling


DAMM impressive !

[theWOODman]

That looks great, but I just noticed one thing. I don't know if it's just a screen resolution thing or what, but the ocean texture on the planet shows seems to where it looks tiled.

Just a thought.

[arte-i45]

Hey there Toni, great looking updates! I really like the surreal quality that your entry has going for it. :applause: I am looking forward to seeing more!




Matt :)

[irananimator]

very nice detail on the work man.Good luck :thumbsup:

[M477]

It's all coming together quite nicely there I see. Nice work on the foreground, it's very contrasting to the large buildings :thumbsup:

[oceanbluesky]

"in order to keep this manageable..maybe u should start referencing"

a good suggestion...also, if you are using Maya, and desperate, you can also create a .bat file with command line render code written in it...then just click on the .bat and render a 400+ mb file without ever opening Maya. Then again you must know what you are doing...I guess you could even export .mi files for a dedicated mini-farm? One of those Boxxes would be sweet for this project, huh? ; ) Good luck! Absolutely beautiful!

[InTerceptoV]

HI.

DimitrisLiatsos, oceanbluesky ...

I am already using a lot of instances, and rendering with batch file outside of maya. And using MAP files to save more memory for textures. My first idea was that if I want to make a structure like this i should do a lot of referencing-instancing + build it in two layers. So I build few objects (walls, fences, windows, arches...) which I to used as lego and build most of the structure with that.
And 64 bit maya would be also sweet. ;) Then I could have 4 gigs of RAM and wouldnt worry about memory alot. ;)

M477 ...
Thanks. I repainted the front part so it looks very different than in the last post. I will try to send this today.

-WOODY- ...
Yes. The planet is not finished yet. That stuff that you see are some problems with displacement. I intend to render planet separately and add some glow + gradient to it so it could look more interesting.

mmbenya, iran_animator, bearfoot, M477 ...
Thanks for the comments. I hope to have something soon to show you more.

[InTerceptoV]

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This is the newest render of the front area. I didnt like the old texturing that I have done few days ago so I tried to do a little different style and this is what I got so far. I must say that I am really satisfied with this color changes so I will stick to this one. There are some more stuff to add in front area and then the background is on the schedlue. And the character after that...

The sky is the photo. We can use photo for the sky?

[doffer]

Awsome!
It's beginning to look really sweet.
I like the blue light, comeing from underneath the earth.
Great details on the path too.

Don't really have any comments except:
keep up the good job.

:D

[arte-i45]

Hey Toni, very cool looking progress you've got here! The other worlds add a lot to the overall composition. :thumbsup:




Matt :)

[mdavid]

This is just amazing to watch this develop. Thanks for your tips on memory-friendly construction

[shakes]

that's looking absolutely stunning-the way you're blending the emerging planets is perfect!

[InTerceptoV]

doffer ...
Thanks. As for the blue light yes it gives feeling of interaction with land since in front plan the earth looks like it is cut from the land... well, I like it to. :) Ther is still glow to add, and maybe some clouds ...

mmbenya, shakes ...
There are also toons of other worlds all around. ;) I thought that if I put only earth in there it wouldnt be so clear of what the planet is doing there .... so when there are 4 more world in the background the idea is more clear.

mdavid ...
No problem. If you have some more questions about memory optimisation just ask. There are optimisations tips for textures, layering, modelling, finalgather and the bsp. :)


BTW has anyone read the text on the stone? ;)

[doffer]

I can only read the two first (last visit and population).

[InTerceptoV]

I can only read the two first (last visit and population).

The last line is Belief, and when it drop below 30-40 % the gods jump back. :)

[drummer]

wow !! it's getting better and better !
I love it, really spectacular !!
good luck

[Jelmer]

sweet, i love the details, maybe you could improve the plantes by adding some more atmosphere to them, clouds and a slight blue lining around them to show they're planets really.

[Nothingness]

i've been looking at this for a while, and i think it's time to start posting something :argh:

first off: great concept and fantastic architecture. I'm a sucker for the style.
I haven't been reading all posts, but here are some remarks/questions:
- i love the earth fitted into the ground with a path to enter it. The think is, that all the stone and dirt and grass don't make it look like heaven! If the picture itself need to tell more of the story, i think there should be mmore of a combination of a path and clouds. Sounds cliché, but it's visualy stronger in convincing this is a idea of heaven.

- what's your plan with the character 'god' ? Are you actually gonna shape him and give him a face? An appearance? a sertain body? The reason i'm thinking about this is because there could be interesting things to do with the character. One of the worst things i can see in a movie is them giving god a face!
Don't know if you already have plans for this but would be nice to hear of them.


keep up the good work

[raultabajara]

you modelling is very nice!
I love the ghotic style!
I will modelling a toy of a ghotic tower... but will looks more fun that "amazzing"

Very nice job!

[InTerceptoV]

drummer ...
Thanks for the comment.

Jelmer ...
Yes, everything you said would be in the final image. The glow would be added in photoshop, and others in maya. Thanks.

raultabajara ...
Thanks. I must check your ghothic tower ... and if you need some some advice about ghotic architecture... I am here. ;)

Nothingness ...
Thanks for time you took to write your comment ... I really need this kind of critics to think more about my work and how can I improve it.
As for the comment ... this is not really a heaven. It is some kind of other world in which gods live and feed with human belief. So in facts, these gods are not here for the people, but other way. Thats the main reason why it is not a true sweet heaven with a lots of clouds, but a world similar to ours but a bit more colossal. The clouds would be there as a ground fog, and the part of structure would be in the clouds to, but I need to keep the image colors fresh since these gods are basically happy nation. I thought about what character would be, and I decided to go with creature like dwarf ... old and small, happy and wise, with some energy flowing around him. I plan, if I had some time, to show the part of dematerialization part of his legs since the character would be in jumping pose just above the planet. We will see ... who knows ... but if you have any hints, ideas please post...

[Nothingness]

hey toni, no probs on the crits.
Only now i know the concept so my crits were a bit aff direction.

I defenitly like the idea of the dwarf and that he'll be jumping into a world. The energy surrounding him could also leave a trail behind him when he jumps.

The concept is more like the world and the gods they have in the greek methology. Sounds more interesting than heaven and god. More possibility's for impresions.

When you let the building go into the clouds, it would be fun having a sun visible. I first thought it would be suited to put him just at the sky under the bridge. But then again it would be badly positioned for the lighting of the scene.
Unless your world had multiple suns.
With the lighting you can also gave a very cool and wonderfull feeling just using a glow. I'm not suggesting that for now, beceause you're just modeling a lot.


ps. about the sky as photo: when you have one poly in your scene, that have that photo as texture, it is 3d !! :bounce: :twisted:

[depleteD]

I'm so watching this. I would really like to see the planet a bit more mountainous and bump and with clouds over top of it

[Staszek]

Impresive idea of architecture! Keep it up!

[hhssuu]

Wow this scene is getting so GRAND!! alsome :D

[unwrap]

I don't know what your concept is but I love what you've done so far. Keep it up. :thumbsup:

[vincent1]

oh! this is starting to be a stunning piece of imagery. Good, good stuff. All the best.



Crit my journey:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=324688

[cgoz]

incredible architecture.keep on

[Nomad]

Great progress here :thumbsup:


I like alot your planets idea :) if I can just suggest that you can try to add to them some atmosphere and little clouds :curious:


Anyway exellent work so far :bounce:

[InTerceptoV]

Wow. So many comments. :) I didnt expect this, thank you all..

Nomad ...
My plan is to add some clouds and atmosphere. As for the atmosphere I am sure it would be in final and as for the clouds I must make some test to see how does it fit on the planet. Thanks.

cgoz ...
Thanks.

vincent1 ...
Thanks. All the best to you too.

sergage ...
There are some text about the concept in the post before so If you have some time to read it. But in short, the story is about the goods who live in this big structure and have field of planets in front of the temple on which creatures live and they belief in gods gives them energy to exist. There would be one good which jumps on to the planet which is in front of camera... and that is where his journey to earth begins.

hhssuu ...
Thanks for the comment.

Staszek ...
Thanks.

depleteD ...
The initial test was with displacement on the planet, so I suppose I must turn it on again. :) But there could be some work on maps for the planet, slight color corrections ... just to fit better.

Nothingness ...
You have a nice idea ... the sky as texture ... yes that will work. :) Well anyway, the sun would be a nice touch but I will see at the end how will he fit into the scene because of lighting. As you say, to put it under the bridge would be somehow strange since it would produce lighting situation which would distract the viewer to much. The glow is nice idea, so it would be one soft glow at the end just to make image more heaven like. Tnks.

[InTerceptoV]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1145615895_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1145615895_large.jpg)

Back in business. :) Here is near the final model of the cathedral. There are still some changes but 90% of it is finished. I will work on in one more day and then the character.
I will make the textures after I finish the character and then there are still a lot of work on planets and textures of front part.
The cathedral is created in two layers. The cut is around the level of the bridge.

[doffer]

That is fantastic!
The level of details is outstanding.

Someone is really going for the prize :D

[MDN67]

The architecture of your castle is really amazing great job

[Qais]

woow! :arteest:

[shakes]

congratulations Toni- it's an incredibly impressive piece of CG architecture..BRILLIANT WORK!

[cgoz]

great updates...maybe a few birds flying around those towers.

[CryingHorn]

Interesting idea, great architectural modeling, good luck :wip:

[Squibbit]

looks awesome so far dude


.

[minminxu]

wow~~~~~~very nice modeling~~~~this is a great workkk~~~~I so like it ~~~good luck~~~~~:bounce: :bounce:

[deltaindigo]

amazing image,I like the lighting and arhitectural details.Good luck!

[lilCara]

Impressive detail, I'm blown away by your modeling skills. This seems so far to be one of the best entries and I will surely stick around :)

Great stuff man and keep it up! :thumbsup:

[InTerceptoV]

Hi.

lilCara, qais ...
Thanks, I will try to put something new soon .... at the moment I am working on the dwarf. ;)

deltaindigo, CryingHorn, shakes, MDN67 ...
Thanks. The architecture was the easiest part ... I hope tha character would be as good as the first part.

minminxu, Squibbit ...
Thanks.

cgoz ...
Yes, you are right ... the birds would be a nice touch. Great. Thanks...

doffer ...
:) I hope so... but the price is not something that gives me a motivaion. It is more about the art.

[Womgoose]

Breathtaking... you should be really proud.

:bowdown:

[Nakary]

Hi InterceptoV, spectacular architectural modeling!, very nice, looks like a lot of very organized work... looking very nice, hope to see the character integrated soon..! good luck!!

[thebest]

oh I hate myself for missing such a cool thread sorry for this u are doing very cool here can`t wait for more :love:

[InTerceptoV]

Womgoose ...
Thanks. We will se how it ends, and then decide if I would be proud or not. :) But yes, a lot of work have been put in this image.

Nakary ...
Organisation of the work was the backbone of this image... I planed every week what to do and in which time. :) The character is going well, I will send some images of the model later today...

thebest ...
Thanks. More work are comming soon. First the dwarf then back to the ground and building...

[irananimator]

Really realy nice.
watching for updates.
good luck
my work . im waiting for c&c
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=328957&page=2&pp=15

[SONIC-X]

Great idea and suppurb modelling dude.

[InTerceptoV]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1146130545_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1146130545_large.jpg)

The stage 2 begins ... character. :) Here is the first WIP that I made after 1 day of work. I justa wanted to get the overall form and then continue to work on the details. I didnt decided yet if the character will have hair or only beard, but I will se at the end.

Since I dont have to much expirience with character modelling and posing, I dont know if it would be better to put in in the pose that would be used in the picture and then model it to details, or do it in the T pose and then skin it and bring it to the position?

[thebest]

cool updates
but something wrong with his foot the first finger hmmmm thump or whatever looks very big compared by the others .......... did u get what I mean ???

[Try]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1146130545_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1146130545_large.jpg)

The stage 2 begins ... character. :) Here is the first WIP that I made after 1 day of work. I justa wanted to get the overall form and then continue to work on the details. I didnt decided yet if the character will have hair or only beard, but I will se at the end.

Since I dont have to much expirience with character modelling and posing, I dont know if it would be better to put in in the pose that would be used in the picture and then model it to details, or do it in the T pose and then skin it and bring it to the position?

Cool character Toni! Really like the feet. But the smallest one look a little to long…
Think you should keep his head without hair. He’s got the right monk look. And I guess that is what you are going fore.

Posing: personally I prefer to do a simple rigging and pose the character roughly. Then make a snapshot (copy) mesh of the pose. That leaves you with something that is a lot easier to do detail work on.
But if you are unsure about the pose or want to animate him you do a detailed rigging.

Looks good so fare!!:thumbsup:

[InTerceptoV]

Try, thebest ...
Yes there smallest finger is too big. The foot is not yet finished so I will correct this in next update. The monk look is what I wanted all this time ... I aimed to dwarf but as it developed I decided to go with a different look, and monk style character was exactly what I wanted. And yes you are right, the monk without the hair would be the right choice ... big thanks. My idea was big hair and beard but this was really good sugestion.

SONIC-X...
Thanks.

animator ...
Thanks. Next update will be with character posed so drop by next week to see it integrated. ;)

[InTerceptoV]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1146211563_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1146211563_large.jpg)

Here is another version. I didnt work to much yesterday so there are only changes to the foot and the cloth. I added some wrinkles to the cloth and reshaped the foot so that smallest finger doesnt stick as it did yesterday. The head is not yet finished, I hope to catch some time today to shape it completely.
As you can see this version is test without the beard, but I think that oldest with the beard was somehow better?

The next step, after the head sculpting, would probably be to put it in his pose and continue to work on it...

[thebest]

keep going waiting for more :beer:

[InTerceptoV]

thebest ...
thanks for such a quick answer. I hope to catch some time over weekend to model more. I will surely have something in next 2 days...

[shakes]

great looking character so far. look forward to more!

[InTerceptoV]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1146600668_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1146600668_large.jpg)

Last few days I had big dilema of what the character pose would be. I tried about 5-6 poses(jumping, reading, standing ...) and non of them didnt fit the composition of the picture. So finally, today, I came up with something ... he is in the process of praying to open the portal to the earth. As you will see, the character is not textured yet, and the model is not finished also. That would be my next step, and then the texturing of building.

There is one other change ... I have flipped the image after I have done postprocessing ... I think this one looks far more better than the unflipped one... it just have more flow in the image.

Yes, the atmosphere glow around the planets is also here.

Still lots stuff to do, I hope to finish this in time.

Thanks.

[thebest]

cool updates u know the building doesn`t need to be textured I find it cool "my opinion"
can`t wait for more

[InTerceptoV]

thebest ...
thanks for comment ... you are quick. ;) As for the building, maybe you are right... but what I miss is some dirt in the bottom part of the structure where it slides into the earth. And maybe some more variations in bricks over the entire model. I will see how this will go after the character is finished.

[mmoir]

Hey Toni,

Great looking architecture in the background and I agree that the flipped version is better . Great stuff all round:cool: :wip: :cool: and looking forward to more.

[InTerceptoV]

mmoir ...
Nice to see that others also like flipped version ... my wife and me were the only one who saw the flipped version and said that it is better, so every new vote are welcome. ;)

[shakes]

I like the way you flipped the building- I think it works really well.
I think he looks fine..maybe a little short in the upper legs, now he's kneeling? also, it looks like he's got a backpac on, with that block behind him..just a little distracting.
other than that...SUPERB stuff

[InTerceptoV]

shakes ...
Thanks. Very usefull comment ... yes the stone does not fit here any more. I should probably find some other place for it. As for the upper legs, It looks a little strange because I made fast skeleton without any tweaking so some things look distorted. I am working on this now and will probably show it in next image.

[melkao]

Wow....is really a beautiful work!.....that picture is really amazing.

This will be one of my desktop back grounds!:eek:

[suds]

Wow that building rocks, love the scale. Nice work.

[oceanbluesky]

Hey Toni, very cool image -- in my opinion the building doesn't need much texture...it is pretty cool and impressive in itself. Also, your willingness to flip the building is interesting in itself. --Could claim you modeled twice as much and just changed the camera angle. : ) Just kidding. Great work. Can't wait to see more.

[Lemog]

Top notch mate, I really like your creation... very imaginative and great...

I like a lot the pose of the character, just a bit worry that this guy was not so much visible... maybe more on the foreground, and a large focal, to increase even more the imposing of the background...

[flaeticia]

yaaaa very great architectural modeling ! that abounds lots lots lots of details and i like that ! :thumbsup:
Very good work ;)

[Lemog]

An idea about my thought... sorry for the Photoshoping :scream:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c54/lemog/toni.jpg

[Try]

Great Toni! The building looks even more awesome from this angel.
The character is a little to cartoony in comparison I feel…. And the pose should bee more powerful in my opinion. Standing with raised arms like Moses!



I se what mr. Lemong is thinking about but it requires a weary strong character in front…

But man, that building is pure eye candy!:)

[Dironik]

It really splendidly.:eek: Nothing add.
Good luck!

[InTerceptoV]

melkao ...
Thanks ... wait few more weeks for the final image.. ;) I will send you a copy to email if you want.

suds ...
Thanks. It was really hard to achieve this kind of scale ... but it is worth it, I am more satisfied than my last image at competition on cgnetworks.


oceanbluesky ...
One for for the flip. So that concludes it ... it woul be flipped. ;)

Lemog ...
Yes you are probably right. But its a little bit late to change camera ... I will probably try to move the foreground layer a little bit closer to camera and test it if it fits. What i will do first is to play a little bit with colors and lighting on the character and try to push him in focus with that. Well, I will se how it goes and post changes. Thanks for the comment. BTW nice photoshoping ... it makes it clearer what you wanted to say ... one picture for thousand of words. ;)

flaeticia ...
As lemog said, details details details. ;) But why not when we have pretty nasty computer today who can handle it.

Try ...
The character is not yet finished. I must texture it, and this is low poly version. Yes the pose was a big problem and I have been strugling last few days with it ... and this is the best one I found so far. The other were more pronounced - powerfull but there was something wrong with it ... so I decided to go with this calm ome. I didnt try the pose you are suggesting, maybe I could give it a shoot and se how does it fit. The building still has some work... ;) Thanks...

Deser ...
Just one thing to add... thanks. :) Good luck to you 2...

[Lemog]

You're not obliged too change so much the camera angle... of course... but maybe trick a little with focal, oriented the background to have much perspective effect, comes more closer the guy... you can trick with the scale of things, it's generally not visible for a still picture...

...courage for the next step Toni :thumbsup:

[Nothingness]

hay toni,

take much care at the pose of the character and those beams going from him to the earth! At the quick photoshoping you would almost thing he's pissing on it :argh:

But the idea is great! Maybe considder havind the beams surrounding the character a bit of so.

Good luck on it.

ps. i had a bit of a better feeling with the picture in the mirrored way. (like the beginning)

the reason: we are used to reading from left to right. And when looking at images you almost have the same way. But because the character is at the left, your attention is there mostly and prevents/bothers you to look to the right. So if you read the image like a visual story, you start with the character and move on to the rest. I prefered to keep the character a bit backward in the story.
Maybe it's a feeling created because you removed some space around the globe, deleting the visual explenation how the earth is put in the whole scene. Did you remove the space?

Keep up the good work and view my critics with a sharp eye! they are mere suggestions.

[rasamaya]

Im sorry but thats funny, it does look like he/she is passing water on a planet, LOL. You have a truly amazing image growing, I like it a lot better than in the begining.

Whats behind your character? It would be nice to see a few wood roof tops as wood is used eg. the dock. Cedar is nice, it has a lot of natural oils, can last hundreds of years, if not thousands in the land of the creator.

Cheers and GoodLuck!

PS I aspire to have architectural abilities like you

[SONIC-X]

Exellant scene ,very creative.

[bearfoot]

wow i love it - excellent work mate


however 1 samll crit would be to break up the texture of the building..
i have never seen a building so clean like that before.. the modelling is stunning
but the texture just needs a dirt map or difffuse map to add a little more realism

cheers

[InTerceptoV]

Lemog ...
I made some changes and the front layer with character is bigger ... you will see soon as I post it. I didnt want to make to much changes since that takes time to do it and synchronize all layers, but I thing this step that I took is enough.

Nothingness ...
I suppose the beams created that visual feeling ... of pissing. ;) These are just paint effects for now, and I will try to do this with the fluids which will probably look better. As for the flipping, why I did that is that when you start reading from the top left, the arch of the bridge visually attracts you and pull down to the character and because of that he is much more visible in the composition. The next eye step would probably be to raise the view and see the entire building... and thats the flow that I wanted to make. The older one didnt done that and everything else was visible except the character. As for the space I didnt removed enything in the image for which you gave a comment ... but in my new render I have some zoom of the front plan and some space is removed ... I will post that soon.
BTW the I had some beams surrounding the character but thet look pretty messed up so I pointed them to the hand. But, when the fluids come to the stage maybe it would be cool to try it again...

rasamaya ...
Well if the pissing character makes you guys laught then why not. ;) Yes, that is good critic and I will try to clean that up ... I thing the beams are the main suspect for that feeling.

SONIC-X ...
Thanks...

bearfoot ...
Yes you are right ... the texture on the building is the one I used from the start, and it is not finished. I will work on it next week probably. There is a lot of dirt to add... it will not be dark but just to give it more realistic feel. The dirt will probably be more pronounced in the bottom part...

[InTerceptoV]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1146734929_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1146734929_large.jpg)

Here is the new render. I moved the front part a little bit closer to camera to give more space for the character. Any comment about that change would be welcomesince I cant be objective any more because I am looking at the picture every day. The character is not yet finished, there are a lot of work on hands, head ... and everything else ... so exclude him from the critics. The only thing that is finished is pose...

What do you think should I put some real grass and flowers in the front area or is this enough to give a feeling?

Thanks

[SONIC-X]

It looks great.The first thing I see is the building in the back-it is over welming and a piece of art.Some grass and flowers will make it even more impresive.

[thebest]

yeah I think u can add some white flowers it will look cool

[Guile_tc]

yeah absolutely some grass and flowers! everything else is perfect!

[melkao]

the arquithecture...shows a reallly good job, it's a lot of work!...and don't worry i will copy it from here!...i always do that, i collect all the final images, the ones that i like more...and this really will be one of those!:eek:

[shakes]

that looks alot better- really like the composition.he is alot more visible now. ..still blown away by that building..it's insanely good!

[coochaki]

great work here!

great modeling!
keep going man!---=>.... .. .

[InTerceptoV]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1146818644_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1146818644_large.jpg)

A little update. It would be bigger if I didnt render the different camera angle for the front layar where character is. But anyway I fixed some stuff on the building like degenerated triangle at the bridge. Then I added some more details to the arch of the bridge and some more structure remake at the right middle part of the building.

Well, It is not to much but why not post something.

BTW I fixed the camera for the front plan and it is rendering right now so maybe there will be another post today.

[thebest]

cool updates keep going :thumbsup:

[InTerceptoV]

thebest ...
Thanks man. I am trying as much as I can. But there is always problem of motivation after 2 months of work. Hope to finish all in time, and time is passing by so fast. :(

[mmoir]

Hey Toni,

One thing I noticed since my last comment, when you flipped your scene the texture for the earth planet is now backwards so maybe you want to flip the earth tmap .

[InTerceptoV]

mmoir ...
Yes I forgot to flip it back. :) I will do it next time, but I must see if I can get this kind of relation (sea,land) ... if not I will stick to this one.

[thebest]

thebest ...
Thanks man. I am trying as much as I can. But there is always problem of motivation after 2 months of work. Hope to finish all in time, and time is passing by so fast. :(
oh no u must complete it I will be very sad if u don`t :sad: but hey I know that all the ones that are called
Tony/Toni complete their work on time lol :scream:

[InTerceptoV]

thebest ...
It would be finished, but the question is will I implement all that I wish. And yes there is no unfinished stuff for tonyis. ;) ... if one of us fails, then we should probably change our name

[thepineman]

i find the building very nice. Construct something like that in Eastern Europe and I'm definitely going to visit place like that.

[InTerceptoV]

thepineman ...
Well for now it is only constructed in my home so if you want to visit me for a cup of coffee why not. :) I will show you the wireframe in maya and we can try to climb to it in shaded view. :) Thanks for the comment man.

[thebest]

thebest ...
It would be finished, but the question is will I implement all that I wish.

I hope that u could make all the things u wish in time:thumbsup: "well I`am sure that u will :wise: "

And yes there is no unfinished stuff for tonyis. ;) ... if one of us fails, then we should probably change our name
hahahaha lol yeah :scream:

[XITIJ412]

Hi ! Friend

Your modeling is fantastick,but if possible just change the sky image.

[InTerceptoV]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1147161496_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1147161496_large.jpg)

Just adding some grass. This was just a test, but I will add some more today. I found that the hands of my characters are to big, so I should probably remodel it a little bit. I also made a test with the planet ... rotated it a little bit but I like the older version so I would probably stick to that one. The energy beams are a little bit different ... I made some models with textures which I added as screen merge in post. I am not truly satisfied with them ... I think that they should be thinner.

Well, thats for now. I didnt post the whole picture, only bottom part.

[InTerceptoV]

XITIJ412 ...
Yes you are right, the sky image needs a lot of work. I plan to add some new cloud layer to make it more rich. Thanks.

thebest ...
My plan with grass-flowers is going very well so I suppose there would be enough time for other changes. :)

[thebest]

cool update dude waiting for more :wise::thumbsup:

[rasamaya]

Great changes, I did like the planet the otherway, even though backwards, it was better. Besides the gods must have something backwards... The beams look better, but on your last large post. Still could use work? But at least that high arch is gone; that was the passing water look for sure. No wood on your architecture?

Your work is truly amazing, I think I said this before- Im inspired to do architecture, each time I visit your thread.

Cheers

[FlaminGlow]

I tip my hat to you man this is realy brilliant work no critiques just amazing.

[InTerceptoV]

thebest ...
Thanks Tony. ;)

rasamaya ...
The planet will be back at his initial position next time. After I flipped the texture in the right way I didnt found the right position for it. Thanks for the beams, I really didnt know if this one is better or not... but I will work more on it since this is was just a new test. No wood on my architecture... and I dont have time to do more tests.

FlaminGlow ...
Thanks man.

[InTerceptoV]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1147248934_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1147248934_large.jpg)

The last update for the grass. It is replicated it all over front plan. I started to work on texture for the building ... hope to finish it till tomorow.

BTW now the earth is in similar position as it was in the beginning...

[thebest]

cool updates dude :thumbsup: keep going

[PapaRaf]

Hi there,

Beautifull work!

U moved the camera. The angle seems ok to me. But now you have a bad reading of the character's face because of the black arch behind him. Perhaps you should do something about this.

Good luck.

Raphaël.

[InTerceptoV]

thebest ...
GO, GO, GO... 17 days left. And then the journey to sleeping begins. :)

PapaRaf ...
True, I must do something about the face contour. Maybe remove the enterance or give it more light. Anyway big thanks for this comment ... I don't se all the mistakes that I done and this was one of them.

[Lemog]

At this resolution, your grass appear perfect for me... nice touches... continue... and forget to sleep... it's not necessary :scream:

[shakes]

really superb work on the grass and plants- hope everyone clicks on the high res..well worth the look!

[thebest]

thebest ...
GO, GO, GO... 17 days left. And then the journey to sleeping begins. :)


hahahahaha yeah dude that is another competetion indeed lol

[InTerceptoV]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1147288075_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1147288075_large.jpg)

Just another quick test with dark atmosphere. I changed the sky and desaturated image, but I dont like this version so I will probably stick to old one.

[glenn23]

Oh man, that looks good! Killer sky! Definitely go with what you feel is best but I think the new sky is terrific.

[InTerceptoV]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1147300663_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1147300663_large.jpg)

I am really stuck with the decision of what kind of sky to use. The last one in the image is my favorite, but then I am loosing balance in color from earth to sky (blue-blue).

The first one is the oldest one.

Please please any suggestions or if you can tell me which one did you find better?

Thanks

[InTerceptoV]

Lemog ...
Yes you are right, we should delete sleep layer from the composition. :)

shakes ...
Thanks man. I replicated grass by hand. My initial test was with fur but it didnt went well so I decided to go brute force. ;)

thebest ...
And in that competition everyone wins ... so ... no broken hearts. ;)

glenn23 ...
The old sky sucked ... but it was blue so I had the color balance between top and bottom part. I also think that the sky from the new image is better but I am still confused, or maybe a little bit in panic since there is not to much time. Let's sleep for one day and see how things look tomorow. 1 point from you for the new sky...

[centurionit]

Hi Tony, your building is really great...I'm not sure about the sky, I like the last one too, but maybe the third one is better...Nice image anyway...:thumbsup:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=330707

[glenn23]

Here's a few reasons why I like the storm sky the best;

1. I never noticed the beautiful warm backlight on the arch until you changed skies.
2. The dramatic sky kind of echoes what a person on Earth might see as the God opens the portal.
3. The dark sky in the right corner adds drama to the upper right part of the building.

They're all good and none detract from the piece its just I feel that last adds the most.

[Lemog]

My prefered sky is always the 4th... that give a more dramatical size to your creation... :)

[thebest]

I am really stuck with the decision of what kind of sky to use. The last one in the image is my favorite

all the Tonis have the same opinion lol I agree I like that one too


And in that competition everyone wins ... so ... no broken hearts. ;)

Except maybe me cuz I don`t have enough time to sleep :D :banghead::cry:

[InTerceptoV]

First thanks to all of you for helping me make a dicision. I will go with the last one. :)

centurionit ...
I was also thinking about the third one, but if everyone else likes the last version then let it be...

Lemog ...
Dramatic is what I am aiming right now but it is a global change so I must redo some parts in the front layers. More and more work. :)

thebest ...
And this toni (me) is a pisces in horoscope which is the worst sign when you have to make a decision and chose between two options. :) Why cant you sleep. Lots of work at company?

[InTerceptoV]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1147594355_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1147594355_large.jpg)

This is comming near final. As you can see I changed the overall colors of the image ... which, in my oppinion, is far better than the last one ... but thank you guys since you are the ones who pointed me in right direction!
So what is new: the tree, the bench, a little hill behind the tree, the character (shorter hands, hat).

BTW I forgot to apply the shader on to the roof of that small church ... so excuse me for that. :) Always that small mistakes...

[shakes]

just beautiful work! outstanding stuff.really nice work on the tree.

[Try]

Great update Toni!:thumbsup:
The tree and all the organic stuff in the foreground look great now! Fine contrast to the incredible architecture.
The globes in the back are hard to make out now though… and the monk still needs some work but he looks a lot better now!

[ilusiondigital]

Just wonderful, an outstanding image, overall the architecture, it´´s incredible


All the best

[thebest]

hey cool updates I like it very much keep going :thumbsup: I think the final is very near can`t wait for it :scream:

BTW I forgot to apply the shader on to the roof of that small church ... so excuse me for that. :) Always that small mistakes...

okay u are forgiven lol


thebest ...
And this toni (me) is a pisces in horoscope which is the worst sign when you have to make a decision and chose between two options. :)

lol don`t worry since you are a "TONI " no horoscope can stop u :scream:


Why cant you sleep. Lots of work at company?
no I`am having bad time in my study :D cuz Exams are near so I have to study alot :sad:

[Chappers]

Stunning work!
Chappers.

[Stefan-Morrell]

that building is jaw droppingly beautiful..5 stars for that alone :)
..the forground however doesn't do much for me,not sure why either..the elements by themselves are great.the tree especially looks very well made(so nice in fact it's almost a pity it's not closer to the camera).
looking at it some more I'm thinking the face of the figure looks a bit 'toony'..whereas the overall sense of realism in the buildings is contrasting that

.but again..those buildings:bounce: ..wicked work man!(hope you add them to the turntable view)
well done!

PS:have you considered adding some clouds to the planet?

Cheers
Stefan

[InTerceptoV]

shakes ...
Tnx. Nice to see that people like the tree. I think it gives to overall composition because it breaks the line of the front layer.

Try ...
Yes the monk is the last one who needs more work. I left this last week to finish him so I hope it came up as I wanted. As for the globes ... two of them are not visible any more but I think that adittion of the tree is better than before so I sacrificed the planets. But there are still three of them. ;)

ilusiondigital...
Thanks man. If I had more time I would work more on architecture to make it more detailed, but...

thebest ...
Yes final is very near. It would be done by the end of this week. Good luck with your exams. Those days as a student were one of the best times of my life, so enyoj it. ;)

Chappers ...
Thanks. Final is comming soon... so drop by at the end of this week.

Stefan-Morrell...
I suppose it is because front layer doesnt have so much perspective... the same thing Lemog talked about two weeks ago. But it is too late now, I hope that next time I would remember these mistakes and think more about composition in the begining.
As for the face, you are true. This is still low poly ... but I left this week to finish it (character).
Building wont be in turntable ... theye are so big so in 320x240 resolution you probably would not see anything. But I will post some wireframes and more renders of all objects this week ... so stay tuned.
I considered the clouds from the start ... but I will see if there would be time for it since I wanted to put a cloud vortex in the point where energy collides with earth. Thanks.

[thebest]

thebest ...
Yes final is very near. It would be done by the end of this week. Good luck with your exams. Those days as a student were one of the best times of my life, so enyoj it. ;)

thanks dude and don`t worry I`am enjoying it :scream:

[Lemog]

Tree and grass are a useful addition in your composition, that give a good contrast in your picture... I follow your way in a magical mood :)

[InTerceptoV]

thebest ...
You know I envy you a litte bit for that. ;) So, will you attend next challenge?

Lemog ...
thanks man. I am visiting your thread every day ... just cant wait to se the final compositon. Hurry man... ;)

[Chappers]

Just keeps getting better - no wonder you've won awards.
Inspiring!

[InTerceptoV]

Chappers ...
Thanks man. It seams that you posted two replies for one image ... but anyway, I am flattered. :)

[thebest]

thebest ...
You know I envy you a litte bit for that. ;) So, will you attend next challenge?



lol well yeah for sure it will be on summer holiday so I must join the coming challenge or I will die

[ThierryS]

Gee, impressive architecture work man! I love the rendering you have done and the colours. It seems you can use the remaining time to polish the character, it's currently not at the same level of refinement as the rest of your composition. Anyway, incredible work! All my best for the remaining time :thumbsup:

[Scied]

this cathedral is simply breath taking and is the big trunf of your image... it realy caught my atention. In fact, the cathedral is so impressive that takes much of the atention of the character away, and to be honest, I don't think that, that character is in the same grafic language of the cathedral, its a bit out of place. I don't know but it seems hard to believe that the cathedral and the main character coexist in the same fictitional world... maybe some tweaks hegarding the realism of the character in terms of texture and shader would blend it with the background more seamlessly =) just an idea! I expect it turns out great!

[InTerceptoV]

thebest ...
Then I will be, for next challenge, in same position as you now ... just looking and commenting. ;) I decided not to go to all challenges ... maybe once per year.

thierry2005 ...
Thanks. I am working on character and it is a little bit better right now. But I dont think it will be as good as rest of the picture. :(

Scied ...
Thanks for the comments. In my story the cathedral is the home of the goods who left these little creatures because univers is falling apart. But these creatures still visit the rest of the living worlds from time to time. I am working on character and it is better that before, but still not satisfied with it. It seams that I suck in character design :( and I would probably need to give it some time to learn it. In next challenge the character will be the first one and then the background goes...
BTW is there any specific details about the character that you dont like or all of it? I know that this face is not finished ... but wait till new post.

[thebest]

thebest ...
Then I will be, for next challenge, in same position as you now ... just looking and commenting. ;) I decided not to go to all challenges ... maybe once per year.

no don`t make me sad :sad: who will challenge me then no tell me u will try to enter

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Excellent ..the sky choice is great...U were right...i like it very much too ....:)

Keep going ..this is vey cool work.

[InTerceptoV]

thebest ...
I will try ... but I must see how my wife will react to that since these last three months were pretty selfish for me. :)

DimitrisLiatsos ...
Thanks man. Yes the sky is better thanks to you guys. I am really afraid to make drastic changes as I get closer to the end. Maybe because I am looking to much at the picture and can't be objective any more. But after I changed the sky and sleept over night ... then I saw it that this was a right choice.

[thebest]

thebest ...
I will try ... but I must see how my wife will react to that since these last three months were pretty selfish for me. :)


ok life comes first:wise: "espically when have something related to ur wife:bounce: "

[Vedic-kings]

Cazy modeling!

really great scene!

Good luck:thumbsup:

[wsanyi]

hi

It is a incredible building!
great work!

[Glosep]

Hey Toni, your image looks excellent, specially for the architecture.
The idea is also very good for this challenge.
I'm agree with Scied about the character, I thinks is not the same style that the rest of the comp...anyway, is still one of my fav. Keep going.
:scream:

[Staszek]

- amazing architecture - shot is nice too - character could be better, and lower comosition looks weeker then realy greate upper part.- but you still have time - keep it up!

[InTerceptoV]

thebest ...
True true ... Maya is great but wife is something special. :)

Vedic-kings ...
Thanks man.

wsanyi ...
Thanks. I wish I had more time to work on building...

snowan
The idea is a little bit different from start. But i wrote my story with final image. I know that character is not what it was supposed to be. I will see what can I do these days.

Staszek ...
Thanks man. I agree about the lower composition. But it is to late to test it more. I will be more carefull next time. ;)

[InTerceptoV]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1148126249_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1148126249_large.jpg)

Some small updates. The biggest thing is that this image is now at full res. :) Other than that this is new:
- two statues on the enterance of building - there still some work on them
- dirt texture all over the bottom part of the building
- one more fog layer to make things on the ground more dramatic
- and the character head is a little bit different ... but still not satisfied with it
- new energy beams ... but not finished yet

Thats it. More work to come next week...

[MDN67]

Great, great, great, and again great pic, the castle is awesome, very good work

[thebest]

cool keep going and make sure it is fast enough :scream:

[shakes]

just fantastic,Toni! awesome image.

[InTerceptoV]

MDN67 ...
Thanks. I saw yours image at 2d and ti is one of the best. Wish you best in vooting. ;)

thebest ...
It is fast as I can get. But, the problem with art is that it is never finished. So I suppose if this wasnt made for competition I would probably work one more month on it. :)

shakes ...
Thanks and good luck with your image also. You have some neat characters out there. ;)

[Womball]

Woah! This really impressive! Everything is richly detailed and gorgeously textured!

[MT-Cup]

No crits, this is wonderful! The details are amazing. :thumbsup:

[InTerceptoV]

Womball ...
Thanks. More details are comming soon. :) I plann to add one wooden house in the right lower corner ... the place where these monks live, since the structure is build for gods. :)

MT Cup ...
Thanks. Yes there are a lot of modeling details. Around 7-8 milion faces in complete. Thats why I rendered all in layers.

[Womball]

I would be careful with that, because it may make the scene busy than. Try a low poly mockup first.

[thebest]

thebest ...
It is fast as I can get. But, the problem with art is that it is never finished. So I suppose if this wasnt made for competition I would probably work one more month on it. :)

huh tell me I was making a scene but whenever I leave it then I take a look a say hey we can
add something lol I was making a new thing everyday for a long time lol and still isn`t finished
hahahahah that`s..................... art man insane lol

[InTerceptoV]

Womball ...
I am carefull. Basically, when I had idea I try to add it to the image and if it doesnt fit than I stick to old one and continue. The image is is good at this stage so if I dont add any more this will be the final one.

thebest ...
Yeah ... thats art... never finished. But you learn, through the ages when to stop. :) And this competition is the best choice because it tells you when to stop. :)

[oceanbluesky]

Love your sense of lighting Toni -- this is such amazing work I am excited to participate in a challenge with artists of your calibere...really makes it all worthwhile. Absolutely beautiful. Looking forward to seeing more of your work in the future.

Best wishes with the judging. Good luck!

[InTerceptoV]

oceanbluesky ...
Thanks ... I didnt receive such a nice comment in a long time. :thumbsup:

[InTerceptoV]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1148344163_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1148344163_large.jpg)

Final modeling of small elements. I added the small hose at the right-bottom corner of the structure. This is the place where these monks live, since the time gods left.

4 days left. :)

[MT-Cup]

Love the recent improvements you've made, including the monk's face. It really has an other-worldly feel to it now.


I want to learn to model building like you. :drool:

[shakes]

your attention to detail is as nutty as Lemog!! I love this.

[thebest]

cool work show them how the Toni`s work :scream:

[InTerceptoV]

MT Cup ...
Thanks man. It took me a while to learn modelling things like this. But after you learn how to model then you learn that it is not about modeling, it is more about discipline and organization.

shakes ...
Thanks. Maybe Lemog and I have the same genes. :)

thebest ...
The Tonis work as those small creatures in Warcraft ... work, work, work ... and then you have a big church. :)

[Lemog]

Thanks. Maybe Lemog and I have the same genes. :)
hahahaha... my poor Toni :scream:

[patbb]

The castle is really cool;

but i don't get the monk and the earth thingy...
It's not very clear what is he doing and why; and why there is a earth in the middle of the garden in front of a gigantic castle.

Is he a homeless magician? I could probably read your story to find out but all i wanted to say is that this image does not convey a story or feelings or emotion all by itself. Someone needs to read the story to understand what is going on.

Also the foreground and the background seems to be 2 different images put together.
The green stuff and the monk beeing one and the castle another one. Maybe it would help to put some vegetation closer to the castle.

good luck!

-p

[coochaki]

Wow...

great work man,! wow...for you gereat modeling
great image...
best wishes to you ...
keep going...

[InTerceptoV]

Lemog ...
Poor me ... and I though that I am unique. :( It would be funny to get us into the one projects ... then we could model things at atomic level. :))

patbb ...
You have a point ... some vegetation near the castle would be fine. But the problem is that everything (story behind the image) is falling apart so the earth is one of the rare planets who is still alive, and thats why there is still grass around hers teritory. And yes, the story is the key element since my idea could not be entirely shown through still image.

coochaki ...
Thanks. Your image is also a great one.

[Womball]

Hehe, detail lover aren't you! For me its tweaking that's the bad habbit.

[InTerceptoV]

Womball ...
Yes I admit ... it is a bad habbit but I cannot help myself. :) If anyone have some good psychaetrist specialised for 3d artists. :) And yes tweaking ... thats the time eater, and almost every time the changes are so small that no one can see it except creators. :)

[InTerceptoV]

http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1148507938_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/13/10812/10812_1148507938_large.jpg)

Chapter 93 from diary: My last journey to Earth.

"The gods left us. Angels, they said ... we created you to be our right hand, the ones who pursue our goal to raise biological life all over the universe. And from the beginning it was as they said, until now. Billions of years passed since the creation, but we never foresee that our masters can leave us. We, the angels, are all that are left behind in upper world. Our fathers left us after those apocalyptical events started. Only piece they left behind is a temple in which they lived from the time of creation. But, the universe is coming to end. All the life which we raised through the universe has disappeared. Only few planet, out of billions, are still alive, and we still visit them from time to time to raise belief in gods. But belief in what!... if intelligent biological life only knew how our masters used us all ... how they created all life to serve them and not to praise it. All that life energy which was drained from belief in them ... if they know what great deception that was. I am ashamed of my fathers. The Earth, a planet which was one of the most beautiful in the universe is at his last decade. I visited Earth so many times before ... I was her guardian, and I will be her guardian this last time. This is my last visit, a journey to Earth, a decision to share the destiny of life at that planet. "



And my journey with this picture also end here. It was pleasure to work through these three months with all you guys ... you made, with good critics and suggestion, a big part of this picture. Thanks my friends, and I wish to know you all in person one day. Good luck to you all.

[Womball]

This image came out awesome! Cool story too, sounds like the beginning of an epic game too. Or a game thats should be made.

[mjolnir]

holy sh@#! that is absolutely amazing. how? whoah!!! damn! speechless

[thebest]

congras friend I`am very happy to see the final image congrats again very cool final

Thanks my friends, and I wish to know you all in person one day. Good luck to you all.

u are welcomed and I hope that too :scream:

[shakes]

incredible Eric-the sort of image that leaves you breathless! super work..it's been great to be involved a bit with your progress. good luck and see you next time!

[alvin-cgi]

Details, details, details!!! You done a GREAT job:bounce: :thumbsup: :love: :applause:



The Journey Begins (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=322760&highlight=alvin)
Spectacular 3D (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=275950&highlight=alvin)

[InTerceptoV]

Womball ...
Thanks. Well, maybe I can continue this story in same game competition. :)

mjolnir ...
Thanks. I just waited this day when I can catch some sleep. :)

thebest ...
I wish they invent some teleporters so we can all get a cup of beer in some bar... :) Well, I will watch you next time. You gave me so much support. ;)

shakes ...
Eric? Thanks and see U2 next time. It has been a pleasure.

alvin_cgi...
Thanks. Details, details ... which gave total around 10milions of polys. That was my best so far. And I suppose for the bigger stuff I would need 64bit maya ... so hurry Alias, sorry, Autodesk. :)

[Try]

Congratulations Toni!

That great Gothic building is so amazing that I just can’t find the right words fore it!

Good luck to you!:thumbsup:

[InTerceptoV]

Try ..
Thanks man and good luck to you too. If I had some more time and expirience the character would be on a same level of catedral ... but ... maybe next time. :)

[mdavid]

This is a stunning image - one which draws attention and makes you look again and again. Please forgive my lack of elegant expression, but WOW! Congratulations and good luck

[Dutchman]

I can't believe I did miss your thread all this time, Toni! It looks so brilliant! :eek: :scream: If you should had worked at Weta, Minas Tirith could had been featured completely in Lord-of-the-Rings-1! :twisted: (at least... you seem to build such a city soooo fast)

The architecture is amazing, so is the concept. I love all tiny little details on it, and I'm sure that those will be even more justified on a big printed version! :)

Also, with your image, you show of that technology is... limitless! At least... almost! ('still waiting for the 64-bit? :D ;) ).

All the best to you in the voting! You 100% deserve to be metioned in the final results! :twisted:
-Gijs

[nebezial]

sve što mogu reći je ...staaarii mojj... e ovako rade carevi..svaka čast ovakva izvedba i atmosfera stavljaju te na sam vrh:thumbsup:

[InTerceptoV]

mdavid ...
I forgive you. :) Thanks for the comment ... glad you like it. I have been looking at my image for so long that I cant tell any more if it is worth something, so comments like yours give me a clearer feeling of that.

Dutchman ...
That happens to me also ... I just dont see some threads till the end and I am asking my self how did I miss that. :) Thanks ... I like the comment about minas tirith ;) We made a print on A4 in my company end all kind of details just came up.

nebezial ...
Hvala, hvala. Malo nas ima ali se dobro drzimo... :)

[thebest]

thebest ...
I wish they invent some teleporters so we can all get a cup of beer in some bar... :)
hahahahaha I hope that too :twisted:


I will watch you next time. You gave me so much support. ;)

that`s was my pleasure :scream: